The Residual Muscle Building Effects of Prior Steroid Use

In this QUAH Sal, Adam, & Justin answer the question “If you’ve taken growth hormones or steroids in years past, do they still affect your current muscle growth?"
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[@sircefiro]

I've been training quite a while & I'd say for most gear isn't worth it in the long run, time goes fast, before you know it you're at the point where you'll be paying for it

[@marcosbatista1029]

It depends on the compond , nandrolone can shut you down for months , their metabolites can last in some cases for years . Nandrolone can even kill letig cells by oxidation .

[@emotions2643]

I like your podcast , the only podcast I follow . Amazing work 👌👌

[@alexsavage3009]

for real

[@NutritionLibrary]

This is fantastic. A very misunderstood concept. Rat studies also show that there is eventual loss of the myocytes after about a year since last anabolic use. The structural changes from anabolic do fade over time. Neuro adaptations may fade eventually as well.

[@marcosbatista1029]

It can last for decades, if you use 19 nors like deca yes you can be hypogonade easily because nandrolone metabolitos can shut you down for months ( maybe years if you use a high dosage ) , its not the same using just testosterone .

[@Samson2323]

Dude's know their shit, they should really try being gym coaching.

[@calebp1423]

Lmao

[@thereisnosuchthingasanativ904]

Lmao 2

[@pgillgill6777]

Lmao 3

[@FrankO-ek1ec]

Sal is the man

[@Voidrunner01]

To keep this in perspective, an increasing number of young men that have never taken any kind of PED, are being diagnosed with low T and end up on TRT. It might well be more prevalent in populations with a history of PED use, but it's by no means restricted to that group, nor is it even uncommon. Some studies show that upwards of 40% of all males 45 and older in the US have hypogonadism.

[@jayredmon3769]

Not disagreeing with your point, but is it also fair to say that a large percentage of the population isn’t living a healthy lifestyle to begin with which could lead to hormone issues as they age.

[@Voidrunner01]

@@jayredmon3769 Considering the current prevalence of obesity and chronic illness like diabetes, hypertension, etc, I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue otherwise. But that being said, we are nonetheless seeing younger and younger people, even ones that aren't necessarily obese or suffering from other comorbidities, being diagnosed with hypogonadism.

[@farhanhussain_]

Low T can have many causes. Poor lifestyle, unhealthy diet, lack of physical activity, all such things affect T and other anabolic hormonal levels.

[@jayredmon3769]

@@Voidrunner01 thanks for clarifying. I haven’t done a lot of research TRT or any type of cycle in general but I do love exercise and lifting weights. I enjoy watching videos on strength training but it seems like most are beginning to advertise TRT. I will say that I’m biased because I believe in taking care of my health naturally and trying to avoid any form of medication etc but I do feel like we are being led to believe we need things like testosterone injections and blew chew as opposed to getting our rest, exercising and eating right. I’m still in my early 30s. and have always been fairly active/healthy so my experience isn’t that of everyone else. I’m sure that like you’re saying. Some people really need these things

[@Voidrunner01]

@@jayredmon3769 Anecdotally, I have a handful of friends that ended up on it. One of them was 28, very active, but had a free test level on par with an 85 year old man. It's possible he could have improved that naturally, quite possibly. But it would have taken time and effort. Going on TRT was the easy button, and it benefited him immensely. But it's still not something that people should do lightly, IMO.

[@rustcohle4543]

Has all the Mind Pump Five taken gear?

[@kajuskup375]

But how would you know what their testosterone level would be at 40 if they haven’t taken anything?

[@cooparchive7857]

Go to a family doctor and tell him I want check my testosterone levels .

[@imawarrior313]

So if i take them post 40 lets say 45 to 50 years old I’d be better of than taking them in my 20’s or 30’s? And am i in danger even if I take 1 cycle?

[@bluepeter3470]

I know a lot of people who would not train if they were not on enhancing performance drugs.

[@antoinelessard579]

can you do a capsule on PA-7.

[@docholidae921]

Early TRT life 🙏

[@clydebarksdale2264]

What about testosterone boosters? Do they have the same negative affect long term for testosterone?

[@ReyV1]

I believe they ”boost” testosterone so little that it doesn’t really impact future testosterone levels, I mean stress (for example) probably effect testosterone more and have a longer period of effect (ofc depending on how long you subject yourself to that stress)

[@ReyV1]

Great question though, and ecdysteroids usch as Turkesterone and Ecdysterone (I think they all work roughly the same?) who don’t effect testosterone directly might even have positive effects long term on muscle building if we take in myocytes and muscle memory in to consideration? *thinking emoji*

[@gabeitches431]

They don’t really work sure they might boost T levels a little if they have a test boosting supplement but it’s not enough to boost muscle growth or anything else. And no it’s not gonna have any impact negative or positive when taken so little doses

[@ajithsidhu7183]

Would.it be wise to take it on our 30 or 40 years old

[@farhanhussain_]

Double edged sword.

[@thereisnosuchthingasanativ904]

Pretty dead on advice. There are life consequences you don’t see as a 20 year old. Like having to give blood because it gets dangerously thick. Maybe your drill sergeant doesn’t wanna work because you are off and messed up on pct, or took too much deca, or had high estro. Or you couldn’t handle your anger and did something you regret. I been through all them things. I’ll be the first to say it: if I could go back in time, I never would have taken gear.