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[@backfire]

Forgot to mention that this Sako 90 I’m using is a 300 Win Mag shooting 170gr Powerhead Blade ammo. More on that in the next video.

[@wyomtnhippie]

I’ve been looking for a video on this rifle!! Hardly nobody reviews Sako

[@kellym3531]

​@@wyomtnhippieWho Te Hoo

[@alienstacker]

Why the 300 win over 7prc?

[@backfire]

@alienstacker Just for variety 😀 But I’m not sure they have 7 PRC in this gun yet.

[@HotepSaoirse]

@@backfireSako, and other European gun makers aside for Bergara, only puts out guns based on CIP despite SAAMI saying it’s save for commercial sale. Once it’s certified on CIP then you’ll see more European rifles other than Bergara put out rifles in 7mm PRC.

[@NaNa-rb7ou]

Here’s a little trick grandpa taught me as long as you can see the target with your eyes; look at the target line it up with with top turret. Then look through the scope you will be in the general area, make sure your zoom is not all the way in. It amazes me how many ppl struggle with finding the target inside the scope. The only time I can’t acquire the target is when I don’t see the animal with my naked eyes.

[@jackbuendgen389]

My buddy put a red dot on his scope for that exact thing.

[@Antoine.Comeau.Racing]

Nice advice

[@NaNa-rb7ou]

@@Antoine.Comeau.Racing happy to pass down old wisdom :) there are still a lot I don’t know but I feel like lots hunting guide keeping lots of trick of the trades to themselves.

[@EnderPearlRs]

​@@NaNa-rb7ou Not being too zoomed in from the start is a big part of it, as you said.

[@5150miner]

I use flip up scope covers and cut a thin cardboard circle that fits tight inside the cover and write my DOPE on the cardboard. Cover it with packing tape and put it inside the cap. When I flip my cap open my DOPE is right in front of my eye. I can dial or hold.

[@krewlife333]

Great idea

[@Toldyaso1216]

Sako rifles are outstanding rifles. Haven't had a chance to see a new Sako 90 but I took a cow elk in Oct at 425 yds with a Sako 85 Grey Wolf topped with a Leupold VX5HD. It's easily the nicest hunting rifle I own.

[@grizzlybig3758]

I wen to store and look at new sakos. Honestly I think the old style ones are better. I like 85 finlight

[@Toldyaso1216]

@@grizzlybig3758 I really like the 85s as well. Always checking the used racks for 85s. That's how I found the one I have.

[@KosmicKorgi]

This is so awesome! That's a good deal and I think a lot of Hunters that have never gone for elk will really benefit from this. You are doing such a tremendous service for the hunting community by setting up your guide service like this. I will be looking into this for my future hunts!

[@ronws2007]

08:40 getting photo-bombed by an elk ... priceless @backfire

[@dargie12317]

Love your video Jim, you always give us good informations.

[@10-4CodyWade]

"80% of the time, the reason they don't kill it is target acquisition." Then a few seconds later, "I think 4-24x scope is my favorite" 😂😂😂 This is some great satire, boys!

[@ericb.4358]

My "elk rifle" -> 6.5 PRC Browning X-Bolt Pro. Very light (6 lbs. 2 oz.) and a flat shooting but decently powerful cartridge. "Elk scope" -> Bushnell Elite 4.5 - 18 x 44 with illuminated G3 small "Xmas tree" reticle This rifle/scope combination is very good for Nevada's longer ranges.

[@usafret4709]

That hunt sounds like a great deal. This is an outstanding video. As always, one of the best hunting and shooting channels on KZbin. WTW also said the exact same thing about the SAKO 90. He said it is the finest rifle he has ever shot.

[@maddie35666]

Appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos! 👍

[@jaktglede8762]

Hi from Norway. Love your videos and your honest opinions. Could you please do a review of the Tikka T3X Lite Veil Wideland?

[@sammartinez8084]

Great show and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁

[@pwmiller5759]

Great video and beautiful scenery!

[@jenky1044]

Great show, great shot.!! When you replayed in slow motion, @10:07 you can see your bullet and trace coming from screen right, headed for the boiler room. Nicely done sir, nicely done. We don't have elk over here in Maine, but we do have whitetail deer and moose. My favorite eating (best first) goes like this. -Caribou -Elk -Moose -Whitetail

[@thewatcher611]

"You're not going to sneak in to 100 yards." -Jim, talking while siting 100 yards from an elk.

[@tomkehoe6392]

Heck of a shot! Agreed that placement is the priority, so that scope must work. Practice makes perfect.

[@gavinbowman8234]

Cool concept on the group hunt.👍

[@bjjukes4969]

I once paid a hunting guide (the one and only time I likely will) and ended up using their rifle. Unlike my own rifles, theirs had a scope with a parallax adjustment - something I was not previously familiar with. I ended up shooting an animal that was within bow range (almost spear range). It was a bit of a circus because, for the life of me, I could not get his scope to focus at that distance. I am sure it was frustrating for the guide as much as it was for me given that we were trying to communicate in very hushed voices and hand signals. In the end I was able to get if figured out, but it easily could have resulted in the animal running away. It seriously made me feel like I was a 12-year old again and was a good reminder of the need to become familiar with the equipment you are using well before it counts.

[@ltaaron3368]

I love the static camera shakes

[@jeffreylee4102]

Hey Jim, long time viewer but for some very odd reason haven’t subscribed until just today. Big fan of your content! I’m a disabled (from birth) hunter who loves hunting and has shot a few mulles and a couple white tails too. Had the invitation to go on an elk hunt on some private lands here in northern Utah but couldn’t make it happen with timing and scheduling so hope to next year. This is a long shot, but I’d love to get the opportunity to join ya for a hunt one day if you’re in Utah. Cheers and thanks for the content!

[@Cjtarinelli]

Great video! On bullet selection - another point to consider is the negative impact of lead on non-target wildlife. A pinhead size of lead can actually kill an eagle that feeds on a gut pile. Most of my hunting buddies and I switched to all-copper bullets years ago because of that. They are accurate and deadly where they should be ... only!

[@theastro-philosophersappre2786]

Have been using the Barnes solids since the late 90’s. They definitely get the job done

[@terrell48]

that 4-24 scope is not suitable for hunting. A 3-12 is by for superior, a 12 power out to 500 yards is very adequate for hunting, quality of glass is important

[@phild9813]

I agree on the sentiment of the 4-24x. I would argue further that a 3-9x or 2-10x is more than enough on both ends to take big game at all reasonable hunting ranges. I would also argue for a 1” tube and a basic BDC reticle or simpler crosshairs. Needs to be simple in the heat of the moment and lightweight for all day carry.

[@ProcessBasedHunter]

I think the difference in a high power scope and a non high power scope is a little glob of glue called "opinion."

[@crazyaz9468]

I'm pretty sure that after not seeing that elk, you can no longer hashtag Erik's videos with #checkyourammo. 😂😂😂

[@JimHarmer]

Erik still gets #wrongammo but now I deserve #lookbehinddyou

[@hxl6162]

Perfect Jim🎉 best wishes from Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@CoopaTroopa0525]

I’m choosing mean tweets for my elk cartridge every time 😂

[@CiviTac]

lol I can’t focus listening to you guys with that elk just prancing around behind you

[@c.r.rg9529]

I like 3x18 scope better

[@Simon-talks]

And you really don't need anything over 10x for hunting. Most hunting shots will simply require the lowest power.

[@c.r.rg9529]

@Simon-talks true . But if I push out to 400yards I like the magnification. Plus I got a sweet deal on a couple riton scopes in 3x18

[@jacobmonroe2939]

I love the elk behind them😂

[@e.l.robbins5614]

Thanks Jim, great video. I’m filing this video to memory. A Utah elk hunt sounds good.

[@backfire]

Awesome experience. This was near Hoytsville Utah.

[@ryanjames4740]

Mate the area looks absolutely amazing, as an Aussie would love to get over there in the snow for a hunt one day.

[@p.r.8049]

Scope and bullet are the most important things to me. If you like the bonded bullet also for long shots, try the Norma BondStrike and you won't be disappointed by it's terminal performance and accuracy. But you' ll only find it in the form of loaded ammo for 7 Rem Mag, .30-06 and 300 Win Mag (among your calibers of choice). For 7 PRC you' ll need to reload it. And yes, the bullet is available for reloaders. In 7 mm it comes in 165 grain weight. I suspect it should not be much different from the 168 ABLR both in dimensions and reloading recipes. The ABLR is a good choice too although the BondStrike has better weight retention and an amazing balance between expansion diameter and penetration.

[@m.t.pokkets86]

I am using the Sako 90 Adventure with a Zeiss HT. Very, very good rifle.

[@nj-bz8pv]

The only thing finer then those Finnish rifles are the women there. It’s incredible

[@Bert889]

I like how you staged the video with an elk in the background. 😊 Your producer deserves a raise 😊

[@ZacPalus-zr9hh]

The elk right behind you had me dying!

[@strat1080]

It seems like most shot opportunities are missed due to having variable scopes with a lot of magnification set with the magnification too high. I prefer a fixed 6x ot 2-8 or 3.5-10 variable scopes. 20x or more on the high end is just too much for hunting. A 5x25 scope is worthless if you bump some Elk really closeby and you have your scope set much above the minimum magnification. I just don’t understand people’s choice of optics these days. A fixed 6x scope used to be considered a fine choice for an open country big game rifle.

[@RoxVrod]

Jim you chose a 300 Win Mag over a 300 PRC, and after giving the 7 PRC top choice. You love modern high BC cartridges but you never give the 300 PRC any love. I guess I am giving the same razzing you gave the guide about 308. I really enjoy your videos!

[@ragnarrloobrok70]

The right Elk cartridge is the one that works for you!! Some people can't afford to have choices and they only have one. This may help those that don't and want one. :)

[@GrantFloyd-it5hf]

That rifle looks amazing

[@kalindanley2843]

I hunt with only one eye cuz im half blind. I do the paintball method. I hold rifle and look down the side of the barrel, like aiming a paintball gun, then i move into the scope.

[@eugenepage7248]

One -eye here also, I'll have to try that. Thanks for the tip!

[@terrysharp5025]

You’re so accurate. People search with the scope

[@elkhunter9244]

Was that the Veracity ph scope? I saw you do a brief vid with it on a Bergara. Noticed it was on your short list of top scopes of 2023 but didn't make the long list. Love me some late season cow hunting. Even when they sneak up behind you....

[@rayray9620]

Could you talk about the scope you used and why? I have a hunt this year and looking to Man Up on a new scope.

[@superdave103harley]

Thank God for Discovery Optics boys! New HD gen 2 5-30 is wicked. Also Arken SH4J 6-24. Elk machines and eld... I always say if you can't take the weight better start exercising

[@Cats.Hammers.]

Man, you guys! At 17:16 there was another Elk just a few yards away, sleeping behind you! Switch on!

[@geraldclemens1682]

Impresive gun room.

[@5jjt]

Try mittens instead of fingered gloves. Also, try the large hand warmers rather than the smaller ones. The larger ones last into the next day, and get much much hotter.

[@tonnapoppe1844]

I bought my top two elk guns before 7prc came out they are savage 325wsm 200gr accubond for 400 and in and sako 30-378 Weatherby 220gr eldx backup is a new addition 6.5 prc cva 140 partition

[@wallacerose7499]

Without brake do you think the Sako 90 Quest has less recoil with RTM carbon wrapped stock ? Thanks 🙏

[@keithprinn720]

so many options with recoil handled with your pad massive thing. many people have a perfect option just upgrade the scope and pad. most suggestions can work for someone willing to get new outfit most don't need it. starting from scratch decent 7 PRC rifle not too heavy with light scope like Leopold in right magnification with your recoil pad to reduce recoil. might not need a suppressor to save weight but add for some uses. great bipod and slings for some uses leave behind for others. and practice to gain experience how to use it. who can afford elk hunts with guides? appreciate the reduced costs but so much a rich guy game. like African trips of course/ not white tails or varmints on nearby lands. or helping farmers clear out hogs or foxes on lambing properties elsewhere. appreciate your videos and this one in particular not hiding from the downsides.

[@drmjruff]

nice shot, I thought high loin shot at first also.

[@bugle247]

Nice cow and sweet shooting rifle!!

[@Weatherby406]

I have watched Scope zoomed in too far and scope caps on ruin hunts several times. Usually when an unexpected deer shows up close.

[@lanehorton3536]

have any opinions on the seekins precision havak element? they make it in 7prc and im diggin the feel of it in the store i dont know much about them so i thought id ask the expert lol

[@walterquick8649]

Just subscribed LOL

[@Chuck1284-]

Hah - photobombed by an "elk buck"? That'll learn ya! Seriously tho - fantastic video and it looks like you had a really good time with a great guide to boot. 👍

[@shootingsupplies3961]

Dude, regarding your range card: If you're shooting a fast caliber at a big target (deer or elk), zero at 250, then you don't have to worry about any adjustments until you get past 300 yds. I hunt deer on wide sandbar/creek crossings. They usually walk across without stopping so you have to be quick. When one pops out, immediately range it and at the same time determine if it's a shooter. If it is, dial (if needed) and shoot !

[@backfire]

A lot of people like doing it that way. I prefer to keep all my rifles zeroed at 100 and then I just turn my turret to 1.5 MOA as I walk around. Same principle.

[@kevinh4631]

(Max point blank range).@@backfire In my bergara 6.5 creed it was exactly 4 clicks difference in my 200 to 100 zero. I like that I can bump it up and have the dope out to 700 right in the reticle. Not that I would EVER shoot at an animal that far. IMHO if I cant get to within 400yd I suck as a hunter. Id love to come do your moa challenge but I live a BIT too far away in oregon.

[@chrisross1657]

HAHAHAHA! If you pause it at the 5:55 mark, you guys were absolutely sharing a look. Lol!

[@shawnengstrom3906]

Jim, I only have up to $800 for a scope and also looking for a 4-24 or 5-25 for target and possible hunting. What should I get? It will start out on an AR-10 then eventually end up on a bolt action rifle.

[@robertcarey3383]

I love how he states matter of fact: "In open country like this you are not going to be able to sneak to inside 100 yards" and as he is saying it...... there is an Elk standing inside 100 yards directly behind him.

[@janbloemendaal9299]

What about the original premium bullet, the Nosler Partition???

[@rwj6213]

Hey Jim! What scope were you using on that rifle?

[@davidmabee6629]

30/378 weatherby? Great video btw

[@christopherj.7173]

I read your blog and you don't include the Sako Quest. Is it because of the price? You picked the Fierce Reaper which is also expensive though. If someone had the inclination to spend the money, which would you pick. Also, for anyone who could splurge on only one thing, would you say get a decent rifle and a 3k or 4k scope or vice versa, a 3k or 4k rifle with a 1k to 2k scope?

[@JCTaylor21]

Where'd you get the gloves in all black? The Neberon store has black and white only.

[@Cdpurcell78]

So I'm using a 7 mag and it's shooting 154 Hornady Interbond very well. Just nervous about that weight and wondered if i should try to shoot a heavier bullet. I've elk hunted 3 times but have not been successful. Plenty of deer though.

[@igorchumakov7584]

The Beretta also always the best! I mean family from Beretta.

[@blackshirtsrule4ever]

Mean tweets 😂. Nice touch!

[@John_439]

If you want to get good at shot prep and line up talk to prs competition guys. They do it under pressure and time against everyone else at ranges from 200-800m. There are some great videos put out by mdt on the subject.

[@sebastianbullmoose]

Here's something interesting - I shoot a .308 and the bullet is a 150g Barnes TTSX that leaves the muzzle at 2856. It doesn't drop under 2000 FPS until 550 yards (1995 @550). How is it that your 300WM drops under at a closer range than my 308? Unless you're using a really heavy bullet I guess

[@cailoebphillips9444]

Same 150 gr bullet out of my 300 WM is movin at 3275. .308 is definitely outclassed here.

[@carlmarks6145]

I would like to see that Sako stock design used on a savage impulse straight pull rifle. Reminds me of GRS aftermarket stocks. I like the 280 AI for deer, Caribou, Elk and I have used this to harvest a 23 point bull eastern bull moose as well. Much larger than any Elk, caribou, or deer. Remember, so-called knock power is a myth, practice, practice, and practice more to make proper shot placement that leads to uncontrollable hemorrhaging and rapid blood loss. That is a simple truth for successful hunting. Its recoil is minimal, good for my neice and nephew, any girlfriend as well, easy to reload with 7mm components. I have used 257 Weatherby, 7mm rem mag .303 Britsh, 300 WinMag, 350 Whelan, 375 H&H just as sampling of cartridges. I have not shot a 7 PRC yet. My next rifle will most likely have this chambering. However, I'm still very pleased with 280 AI, I hope it continues to be supported by manufacturers and ammunition suppliers.

[@chevyon37s]

I’ve got to disagree on scope choice. Up in the higher magnification ranges like 18-25+ that’s too much zoom for hunting IMO. And you wind up with a HEAVY scope. You end up seeing a lot of shake on target and you have a parallax/ focus adjustment that takes even more time before you’re ready to shoot. A 3.5-10x40 or 4-12x40 scope is more than enough magnification for hunting and they can be had with turrets to dial elevation. Personally this past season I hunted with a Leupold VX-3HD 3.5-10x40 with a zero stop elevation turret on my 6.5PRC and it’s perfect for hunting. Pretty light weight scope with the right amount of magnification and can adjust for long range if needed. Plus it doesn’t have a busy reticle that is some times difficult to see on game.

[@jeffwilliams3436]

No way…it’s ALWAYS better to have a little extra top end magnification.

[@Simon-talks]

I 100% agree that less is more. You just don't need more than a 2-10 power scope for hunting. lugging a 20 oz 24 powered space Hubble for hunting is ridiculous

[@kabehorsley8995]

@backfire I've talked my wife into letting me buy a rifle with our tax return. Is the difference between a tikka t3x lite roughtech, worth the couple hundred more than just the t3x lite? Planning on getting it in 7mm so the threaded barrel and upgraded stock of the roughtech might be worth it, what are your thoughts? Thanks in advance

[@skys-the-limit]

Yes. Future proofing. It gives you options down the road that you will likely end up actually using and appreciating. 2 cents

[@aleksandryermakov7138]

I've been trying to get a hold of the guide via Facebook (Process Based Hunter) and via KZbin, but haven't heard anything back. Is there another way I can get ahold of him? I really want to book an elk hunt

[@lorenweatherby6520]

I have a custom 270 wsm with a 1/8 twist barrel. It pushes Berger 170 elite hunters at 3200 fps. Go to Bergers ballistic calculator and see the ft lbs @ 1000 yards. Truly amazing. Also the 270 is the true 7mm do the math.... By the way, I was there in Idaho when my buddy took that 6x6 with the 6.5. They almost died packing it out, but thats a different story.....

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Congrats on the Elk! What cartridge were you using? 6.5 Creedmoor? and what bullet?

[@waynemensen4252]

Neither of them had 6.5 cr on their list. So, it's pretty unlikely.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@waynemensen4252 I looked at the cartridges offered in that gun. And his ballistics seem extremely mild for a magnum. Jim says he doesn't like 308... so 6.5 Creedmoor?

[@mattc6015]

@@ReloadingWeatherbycould be 30-06 too

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@mattc6015 The Sako 90 Quest is only offered in 22-250 Rem, 243 Win, 308 Win, 6.5 Creed, 7mm Rem and 300 Win mag.

[@mattc6015]

@@ReloadingWeatherby sight i looked at also listed 6.5x55 and 30-06

[@davidc.9933]

This is a story anout life, and ambitions.

[@menahs8]

Should of asked the Elk was his favourite cartridge was 😂

[@Saa45MIV]

I have to disagree.. 4x is too much for thick bush.. need 2 or 3 power as the bottom power.. I think 2-12 or 3-15 is the way to go

[@brandonjett16]

Elk long distance shots im going 28 nosler yes its very rarely talked about anymore on anyone's hunt channels but yes 28 nosler

[@brandonjett16]

7prc is just a sponsored money grab at the moment

[@Igorfun]

At 15:50 there is an elk resting just behind them and they didn't notice....

[@azredneck7722]

Thanks for the content...I enjoy your videos. Can I make a suggestion? It seems that of the benefits to hunting suppressed, one that is talked about is not spooking game when firing a shot. That can be the case. I've shot animals suppressed and the rest of the herd isn't sure what happened. And sometimes they bail into the next county at top speed. Ive experienced the same phenomenon unsupressed. I do tend to agree with you that in general, hunting suppressed can generally lead to less spooked game after a shot. My concern is pushing that as a reason to hunt suppressed. Great inroads have been made in states legalizing hunting with a suppressor. If state game management departments continually hear about this possible advantage to hunting suppressed vs unsuppressed, it could potentially lead to a loss of those rights in an effort to restrict technology that some see as giving an "unfair" advantage. Id love to see you focus on benefits like protection of hearing, reducing recoil, reducing blast, etc. Hunting with suppressors has been amazing for my two sons as the suppressor makes the whole experience better for them with less likelihood of developing a flinch, etc. Hopefully that long winded post makes a little sense. I just think we have better reasons to preach the benefits of hunting with suppressors vs one reason that might draw negative attention from state game and fish agencies that are looking for ways to address what they might see as an unfair advantage. Because of all the reasons I'm willing to carry a rifle with an extra 6" and 13oz on the muzzle and jump threw the hoops to get it, not spooking game isnt one of the reasons. Hopefully you get where im coming from. Thanks.

[@Dark-7070]

The elk is a short bus 🚌 you can achieve success with a straight 6x. Overthinking a simple process.

[@916thomasvang]

Check out march scope 2.5-25x52

[@kenbrake2828]

Talking about heated gloves half way through the video and the whole time I'm like, how are you guys not freezing your ears off!? lol

[@davidcoleman4941]

Sauer 404xt has a heated grip option

[@tracyfry6464]

Do you have a link to the Utah hunt??

[@jimedick9496]

Jim, just a little advice. When you ask someone a question, let them finish answering the question. You interrupted the guy several times shortly after he started talking. Let the guy finish. Other than that, I loved the video and scenery. Beautiful

[@steelpanther1986]

Hey brother question for you, considering the price isn't too far off now, if you were choosing between a new ruger american Gen 2 vs the Mauser m18, what are you reaching for? I'd like to have both but if you were going for one? I like 270 or 30-06

[@ProcessBasedHunter]

What are you primarily using the rifle for?

[@steelpanther1986]

@@ProcessBasedHunter well, I'm a deer hunter here in the NC mountains and other lower states of GA and SC

[@backfire]

I’d go Ruger American

[@steelpanther1986]

@backfire wow, I honestly thought you'd say go with the Mauser. Any particular reasons for this? I'm just curious.

[@user-iz7zy7rx9t]

What Burris model scope is on the Sako?

[@weeman782]

It's the ammo, gun and scope, , not just 1,

[@paulvandenberg5341]

Hard to sneak with snowmobiles. Around here we call it road hunting not hunting.

[@JG-qp5ti]

Interested in that lead vs copper information

[@kevinh4631]

Hornady did a great podcast on that topic a month or so ago.

[@JG-qp5ti]

Check! Thanks for the tip!

[@nicholas1740]

Wondering how many didn't see the dead elk behind you guys, lol.

[@jasonmausteller2488]

The windage card had the hold number, what’s the up 1 stand for?

[@kevinh4631]

that might be his come up for the MOA on the turret, as in 350ys. (a 3.5moa,, come up )

[@nemohoes9792]

Best 300 wsm rifles please

[@yugoyankoff-vh7in]

Would you consider a 300 Win Mag for an Elk Hunting ?

[@backfire]

That’s what I used on this hunt

[@yz8096]

Hi. Are you filming this with an Outfitter? If so, who?

[@CdnElJefe]

He called that “thick stuff” 😂😂

[@scottcrawford3745]

In Northern Ontario, we call that an Open Field with a bit of scrub.

[@CdnElJefe]

@@scottcrawford3745 🤣 Likewise here in northern Alberta.

[@scottcrawford3745]

@@CdnElJefe See you in September; have a bowhunt north of Grande Prairie for second week of Elk/ Moose.

[@CdnElJefe]

@@scottcrawford3745 I will likely be roaming around the area at that time with my bow as well. Watch out for Grizzlies. Had three encounters last fall. Population is exploding, some as far east as Slave Lake now.

[@scottcrawford3745]

@@CdnElJefe Thanks for the heads-up. Will have a 9.3x62 along, just in case.