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@Severian-qz3wq
@Severian-qz3wq 4 ай бұрын
I believe you misunderstood an important point concerning Gil-galad (around 5:00). Gil-galad is speaking about Sauron, the sorcerer and lieutenant of Morgoth, who the elves know well as a great deceiver. At this point in the show, he doesn't know that Annatar and Sauron are the same being, and he only finds out from Galadriel that Halbrand and Sauron are the same being (as seen in the SDCC trailer). So in his speech about how "...he gains the ability to sculpt their very thoughts", Gil-galad is speaking about the Sauron that the elves remember as Morgoth's ally.
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
Tolkien actually wrestled with the nature of orcs and their potential for redemption. He wrote about this in some of his letters. He found it would run contrary to his Catholic theology that no sentient being is beyond redemtpion. So making orcs beyond that capacity wasn't easy for him to sit with. So it's really odd to say that Tolkien just wrote them as evil. Yeah, thats what is published. But his actual thoughts are much more complex.
@TheJeh1
@TheJeh1 4 ай бұрын
@mileswright7294 The demons are sentient but are beyond redemption in Catholic theology, since their choice is already locked in. So are the damned. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say no rational being is beyond redemption from the beginning of its existence.
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
@TheJeh1 I'm no longer Catholic so it's all head canon to me. But in regards to what Tolkien felt, it wasn't so clean cut as "evil beyond redemption." That's just not accurate to his later views at all. He wrestled with their origins so much because of this very dilemma. Consciously, he wanted to make LotR Catholic in the revision process. But in doing so, his views on the origins of orcs were never settled because he couldn't find a proper solution. There isn't one good answer to fall back on. Tolkien was not a proponent of completely irredeemable orc nature. But rather that their corruption puts them beyond any real hope. It's a metaphysical thing that has no real way to be nailed down. We're told that the orcs don't always bend to his will, except for when he has The One. So I have a hunch that may factor into their complete subservience in the show.
@TheJeh1
@TheJeh1 4 ай бұрын
@@mileswright7294 What you're saying is very astute. The thing about spirits (angels and demons), at least in Thomistic thinking, is that their cognition is nondiscursive, so it makes sense that their choice for or against God is locked. When you look at orcs, their reasoning process and access to information seems similar to humans before death, so the natural presumption would be that they ought to be redeemable just as humans are. On the other hand, Tolkien seems to have wanted some race that is reliably evil for the sake of the narrative, as is the case in much fantasy literature, so there is a tension between what he wanted for his fiction and what his theology requires. Certainly each orc would have had to have been redeemable from its beginning. By the way, if there is anything I can do to persuade you to return to Catholicism, please let me know.
@ZephyrOptional
@ZephyrOptional 4 ай бұрын
Letter 153 to Catholic book seller Peter Hastings provides great insight on this subject. Nothing is all evil because everything is the design (music) of Eru. Per Eru, evil exists so greater goods can come to fruition through the free will of his children. Catholic at heart but Pagan in theme!
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
@TheJeh1 I totally understand his need for a narrative that has a group that is wholesale evil. I just think people who whine about woke stuff thinking that's what this sympathetic orc arc is about are just really dumb. As for what should or shouldn't be done within the show, idk. I'm just enjoying that the showrunners are playing with these ideas and getting us to think in similar ways to Tolkien. There is no harm in exploring some of that. As for me returning to Catholicism, I doubt there's anything you could do for me. I have no desire, and it doesn't meet the burden of proof for any of its claims. What it would take is for God to reach out to me. No amount of listening to a fellow fallible human could nor should ever convince me to think I understand the governor of the universe. My take is: Let God be true, and every man a liar. I don't need anyone else being a self-appointed mediator for my relationship with God. But if there is a God, and he knows my heart, and he wants a relationship with me, then there's nothing I could do to stop him unless I'm somehow more powerful than he. But that's really it. God can speak for himself. I've retired from listening to other humans who think they can speak for a supposedly perfect communicator. I know they think they're somehow relevant to my walk with God, but they're not. They think God instructed them to preach, but really they read and listened to the words of other... People. As far as I can tell, it wasn't God. If anything about God is true, I don't need that information filtered through a fallible human like myself. A perfect message can never be transmitted cleanly through a dirty filter. I don't need anyone, just God. He has my number. He's a big boy. If he really wants to reach me, he supposedly could. But until that happens, I just have zero interest in relearning how to make excuses for things I can't actually demonstrate.
@Mallarkey
@Mallarkey 4 ай бұрын
Surely surely they are going to be the Blue Wizards. They will want to tease Gandalf & Saruman for the non-lore LOTR film fans, but it would be abandoning reason for madness to not utilise the Blues. There is a blank canvas and they could do almost whatever they wanted for the stories in the east.
@TheBrokenSword
@TheBrokenSword 4 ай бұрын
It would abandon reason for madness, yet it really can’t be ruled out at this stage 😂
@Nerd_Detective
@Nerd_Detective 4 ай бұрын
I think that's exactly it: these are the Blue Wizards, but the executives want to tease the wizards everyone already knows to create hype with casual LoTR fans that don't know what the Istari truly are, much less that there are two more of them. And I think the Blue Wizards will be a part of a storyline with Khamul in the east, before or after he receives one of the Nine. It's a blank slate! Khamul could be an evil tyrant that they must oppose... or a leading sorcerer and priest of Sauron's followers (perhaps in league with the "nazgals" or even their leader?)... or a valiant hero who tragically falls to his ring's corruption. I really want to see at least one likeable hero receive one of the Nine and succumb to it.
@Mallarkey
@Mallarkey 4 ай бұрын
@@Nerd_Detective yeah, pretty much. Like the idea of Khamul being a hero initially. Adds to the anguish of the Nazgul, having tormented souls, if some if them weren't evil to start with, just, for example, desperate for victory.
@movoo6077
@movoo6077 4 ай бұрын
@@Mallarkey I Agree. but they have been proven to be dumber than they look.
@andrewhead1840
@andrewhead1840 4 ай бұрын
@@Nerd_Detective I live in hope that your theories are true. :-) I don’t mind if he’s evil to begin with, but I think it makes more sense that he be a hero that tragically falls to the ring.
@thechitownclown8972
@thechitownclown8972 2 ай бұрын
Even though a lot was changed around for the show, I thought it was really good. Yeah it's obvious that they changed literally a couple thousand years of history around I thought as a show that's not cannon it was made pretty epic. Plus they Sauron really really evil which I loved.
@Kogg19
@Kogg19 4 ай бұрын
I can’t imagine how this is going to course correct into a good show. The creative team behind are the same people who don’t understand how far they are from good writing. I at least can enjoy it like I can enjoy reading a bad book.
@GloriousRAT
@GloriousRAT 4 ай бұрын
"For they were all deceived. In the dark land of Mordor Sauron crafted a Master Wig. Into this wig he poured his evil, his malice, and his desire to trick all elves. ONE WIG TO FOOL THEM ALL."
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion 4 ай бұрын
"just look at Lord of the Rings if that was released today there's many things that would probably get ripped apart dreadfully" Some of us were 'ripping it apart' back when it was released...
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 4 ай бұрын
Same and I will continue to do so
@mrsamtheman80
@mrsamtheman80 4 ай бұрын
Filmamir! And how about Frodo trusting Gollum more than Sam and sending Sam off while advocating for Gollum on multiple occasions? I still love the movies, but those are the two most egregious examples, though not the only ones.
@mysticwraith6667
@mysticwraith6667 4 ай бұрын
​@@mrsamtheman80I always thought that scene was just to show how much the ring can change you overtime to the casual viewer who wouldn't know much how the ring works
@graviaLycan1
@graviaLycan1 3 ай бұрын
I dislike the hatred to this series as especially in season 2 they’re doing it so much better than their previous season
@thechitownclown8972
@thechitownclown8972 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I thought this season turned out really good. Yeah a couple thousand years of history was changed around but hey, it's just a show. And as just a show, it turned out pretty cool. And I really couldn't stand how everyone hated on this show. I think a lot of people just wanted to hate it.
@graviaLycan1
@graviaLycan1 2 ай бұрын
There is like two camps and nothing in between about this show. Either people hate on it simply to hate on it, or people like the show and take it for what it is.. an Adaptation.. I definitely fall in the latter
@christianefiorito3204
@christianefiorito3204 4 ай бұрын
Nothing of this feels like middle earth to me.Tolkien is not about Peter Jackson member berries. Its is a great soulles spectacle. Not Tolkien.They write the novel that Tolkien never wrote.
@chrismorrison5942
@chrismorrison5942 4 ай бұрын
Just wait and watch the show my dude.
@markgriffiths5289
@markgriffiths5289 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know why people are still talking about this. It’s not Tolkien & it’s pushing a message. Leave it alone, let it die a natural death.
@primal1233
@primal1233 4 ай бұрын
The trailer looks a lot better than the trailers we've seen so far and looks a lot better than season 1. However I don't think it's going to be hardly any better
@mizzlchieizzl
@mizzlchieizzl 4 ай бұрын
So I also think that this season just looks better overall. But I feel like I have to disagree with your take on Galadriel and Adar. In his later life he did question whether orcs could be redeemed. He never settled on one side or the other from that, unless you want to ignore a number of texts. It's your choice of course, but it's still a choice. I also just disagree with how you say this is not galadrial. That takes a lot of authority to say. Especially when we can easily say the first two seasons she learns she cannot fight physically with Sauron and when. If she learns that lesson and the next two seasons. She can become a great sorceress and learn how to use a much larger power. I have absolutely no problem with them showing that path.
@frogmand.142
@frogmand.142 4 ай бұрын
Disappointment I regretted watching season1. It tarnished my memory.
@thekaremiekiancleric140
@thekaremiekiancleric140 4 ай бұрын
Im looking forward to the return of the Mount Doom machine...
@ThePersmo
@ThePersmo 4 ай бұрын
As you said Isildur may get to Eregion, see it's fall to Sauron and somehow get back to Numenor to rally the numenorians to attack and capture Sauron (which would be his plan) putting Sauron (Annatar) close to Ar-Pharazôn later leading to the fall of Numenor.
@whoisgoobafish9623
@whoisgoobafish9623 4 ай бұрын
What happens is Halbrand returns to Eregion as Halbrand and then reveals himself to Celimbrimbor as Annatar
@faustoutloud
@faustoutloud 4 ай бұрын
I just want them to get this right Half a Billion dollars and it looks cheaper and written cheaper then House Of The Dragon. Follow the Lore and follow the books and the writings ✍ have the Artists draw up each character and this could have been special but no they wanted to do their own thing and Own lore without following basic Principles of Tolkien's writing.
@williammaile3610
@williammaile3610 4 ай бұрын
Listen. Guys. I love your channel don’t get me wrong! And I love the LORE… but genuinely… I think people are taking this all far too seriously and slamming it because of how it compares to the lore, to the movies and what we all prayed for. The fact that there is something that we can watch opens the door for future projects that may just be the jewel we are all praying for. But in the meantime, I’m more than happy to watch it and take it for what it is.
@CedarRose7
@CedarRose7 4 ай бұрын
I heard the theory that Celebrimbor's mind is twisted and taken over by the power of Sauron. Showing him a peaceful world, that's why he is so easily decieved by Sauron's appearance when it seems quite obvious to us that it is him. Twisting and taking over a mind is definitely within Sauron's power, so this is very good possibility. Look at what Saruman was able to do to King Thèoden. Its a nice storyline if true.
@samuelpierce639
@samuelpierce639 4 ай бұрын
Here’s how season 2 starts…montage recapping Galadriel’s season 1 adventures from most recent to earliest - each scene shorter than the previous and with flashes from other characters’ perspectives…until the screen is filled with radiance humming gently. A voice says, “ Do you know why a ship floats?” Cut to closeup of Galadriel, lying still, eyes darting under her closed lids. She is drenched in sweat and tears. With a start she sits up and with a strained voice whispers, “Celeborn!” A hand glides in from offscrean, wiping away a tear. “Yes, lady, I am here. Do tell me what is amiss.” Galadriel takes the Kubrick stare and in a clear voice says, “I dreamt I was an asp-hole.”
@NeedSomeNuance
@NeedSomeNuance 4 ай бұрын
Not middle earth. Not Tolkien. Not quality. Skip
@GenuinelyCurious120
@GenuinelyCurious120 4 ай бұрын
I finished re-reading The Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and Lord of the Rings recently. I can't watch this blasphemy 😫
@FilipCafiDobrilovic
@FilipCafiDobrilovic 4 ай бұрын
Producers bad, writers bad.. I don't understand amazon you invest 500 million and bring in some irrelevant characters who are in charge of the project
@calebpanopio9070
@calebpanopio9070 4 ай бұрын
Then dont watch it. I dont know what you're stressing about? lol
@thebrowneyesofmandalore
@thebrowneyesofmandalore 4 ай бұрын
Damrod is also the original name for Amrod brother of Amras and the rest of the sons of Fëanor. Amazon has now disrespected two characters.
@MarcRose96
@MarcRose96 4 ай бұрын
I honestly get the vibe that season 2 will be a soft reboot of the first season. They are doing a three episode premier, and I would not be surprised those three episodes sort of “clean up” season one messes in a better way
@tonyweaver2353
@tonyweaver2353 4 ай бұрын
The first five minutes of the fellowship of the ring told a more intriguing story than these two seasons about the same thing
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 4 ай бұрын
The fellowship was an abomination. You Jackson worshippers are directly responsible for rings of power
@ausmac113
@ausmac113 4 ай бұрын
The depression in your voice 😂
@TheBrokenSword
@TheBrokenSword 4 ай бұрын
👀😂
@patrickb1303
@patrickb1303 3 ай бұрын
I was wondering why you never mentioned Nerd of the Rings in your reactions since he seems to be the main “trying to stay positive” creator for the series. And is getting direct interviews w actors on the show for that reason I’m sure. Then I saw the sub numbers for both channels and was like ahhh yea not worth it 😂 btw the show if you completely set Tolkien’s works aside. Is a 5/10 at best. Dipping to 3/10 often.
@whiteknob7944
@whiteknob7944 3 ай бұрын
After all these channels came along I had a feeling most were just shilling for free merch. I was right. Very few Tolkien channels actually discuss his books, it’s all about the movies or talking about stories from a letter written 60 years ago, which for some reason they consider canon. It’s sad time for Tolkien fans.
@liamwalker877
@liamwalker877 4 ай бұрын
This show has nothing to do with tolkien life work
@Thisislovely07
@Thisislovely07 3 ай бұрын
It has everything to do with it.
@movoo6077
@movoo6077 4 ай бұрын
13:35 it is saruman. Raven hair, two strands of gray hair in beard, what cloak. Yea ,it sure screams BLUE.
@faustoutloud
@faustoutloud 4 ай бұрын
Agree 100% the music from Season 1 Superbowl trailer was not great 😂. I've said that non stop Bear McCreary music isn't bad its just not Howard Shore level not even close nothing is memorable ❤.
@darkLiquid22
@darkLiquid22 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully that one guy is the Witch King as a man and not a wizard
@mysticwraith6667
@mysticwraith6667 4 ай бұрын
God I really hope they don't try and give the Witch King a backstory he doesn't need one. It's what makes him so scary tbh
@1BadMotherLover
@1BadMotherLover 4 ай бұрын
OK, I keep hearing this whole. How does Gil Gallad know so much about the deceiver? And Sara has been a deceiver/Shapeshifter for thousands and thousands of years. And the history is kept close by the elves of their enemies. It would not be crazy or any else to know as much as they could’ve about their previous adversaries.
@palantir135
@palantir135 4 ай бұрын
It very likely be just a, not that greatly written, action fantasy series with a very very thin Tolkien sauce to attract the Tolkien fans.
@spencerkindra8822
@spencerkindra8822 4 ай бұрын
My only hope is it's better than season 1. Fingers crossed right? LOL.
@arderon5
@arderon5 4 ай бұрын
i think that's not a wizard, it's Witch King of Angmar.
@corvega_joe
@corvega_joe 4 ай бұрын
The fact that Amazon is copyright striking people for talking negatively about this tells me everything I need to know.
@elijahbrooks1472
@elijahbrooks1472 4 ай бұрын
Womp womp
@brotherboom5811
@brotherboom5811 4 ай бұрын
@corvega_joe I haven't seen any evidence of that...
@BDawg-hy7pl
@BDawg-hy7pl 4 ай бұрын
@@elijahbrooks1472you’re riding Amazon kind of crazy
@mizzlchieizzl
@mizzlchieizzl 4 ай бұрын
But you have to admit that some people are turning it into a political rally, right? I mean, how could you have an orc story, in 2024, when we know so much more about oppressed peoples.??? I think there really is a lot of criticism which is unfounded politically motivated and with kind of a reverse social justice warrior of the anti-woke. Everyone you know would stand up for their rights if they were being attacked for no reason.
@Christrulesall2
@Christrulesall2 4 ай бұрын
Not exactly. They know people are coming to bash the show without watching just for the f*ck of it.
@mysticwraith6667
@mysticwraith6667 4 ай бұрын
Why did they make Sauron Venom 😂
@Roger-vb2dt
@Roger-vb2dt 4 ай бұрын
wow...boring. I thought you had some really insightful stuff to say or add but all you content uploaders seem to want is a like for like version of the books or a version in your heads. Guess what? Amazon have a vision for the show too and you may not like all of it but it is their version based on the books. I think they have been doing a great version and we are only about to see season 2 of what could be a 5 season show with many post production flashbacks and flash forwards as a means to tell a story. So I prefer to wait and watch without expectation. After the 5 season ends it may be rubbish or great. Who knows at this stage!
@spankie7728
@spankie7728 4 ай бұрын
this is not rings of power ....or lords of the rings ... this is Rings of arse Powah ... as this got NOTHING to do with Tolkien at all .... learn the bloody diffrence " basicly a Fan fiction ... from somone that was reading the books ... 20 f..king years ago and ... didnt have the rights .. to use the real storys from the books ... " thats what this is .....
@tiza9084
@tiza9084 4 ай бұрын
@@spankie7728 cry neckbeard waaawaaawaaa
@tiza9084
@tiza9084 4 ай бұрын
Just watch the show or not and shut up
@spankie7728
@spankie7728 4 ай бұрын
@@tiza9084 woke head ? lol
@spankie7728
@spankie7728 4 ай бұрын
@@tiza9084 hardly anyone .. in the world .. will ever watch Dei /woke crap ... so yeah enjoy ... soon every thing woke .. will die ... becuse if they dont ..... the companys that makes this crap will go broke ... but maybe you think this is okei ... 10 000s of people losing there jobs .. and so on .. most be a good thing ... right ?!?!?! xD
@TheGarthinator
@TheGarthinator 4 ай бұрын
​@spankie7728 yeah probably a woke shill 😂
@oortclouddomicile
@oortclouddomicile 4 ай бұрын
I guess it's only white people who think Halbrand and Anatar look similar. They look like different people to me 🤷‍♂️
@stevenblankenship9814
@stevenblankenship9814 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty excited. Fantasy is my favorite kind of fiction. Regardless of lore accuracy it just looks like a good fantasy action show and for that reason I can't wait to watch it
@Nerd_Detective
@Nerd_Detective 4 ай бұрын
3:00 My take is that people in universe wouldn't see him that way, and that we're peering through the veil as the audience. We don't need to play pretend mystery -- we all know the mysterious elf is Sauron and everyone who doesn't would end up getting spoiled beforehand anyway. Everyone knows Annatar is up to no good. 3:39 Perhaps Gil-Galad will understand and accept at this point that Sauron is back, and is describing a fear of his power to manipulate others... perhaps not even making a connection with the rings yet. After all, for all his individual power and vast armies, Sauron's deceptions are what truly shapes the Second Age. I think this is thematically going to be an ever-growing theme as the show progresses, especially if he eventually ends up on Numenor as we'd expect him to. Adar's comments a bit later reinforce this image of Sauron. 7:00 I can accept Sauron as being able to raise wights. I Imagine the Witch King's power was all rooted in Sauron's through his ring (and later through direct empowerment, such as the "added demonic force" shortly before his demise). This would be a cool way to call back to a book event that unfortunately didn't fit in the films. 7:30 I hope this is prophetic, or a manipulation of Sauron. I'll even accept the balrog rousing as some unknown terror in the deep, and the Seven being used to suppress it... for now. I remain confident that the two mysterious wizards are the Blue Wizards, and that the Stranger has been straggling behind his friend (and is now catching up). I expect they will get into shenanigans with Sauron's followers in the east, and likely will end up in conflict with Khamul. Alternatively, the new wizard-like character might be Khamul, as some sort of sorcerer before/after he receives one of the Nine. I'm wondering if Sauron's plan in this retooling of the story is that he's given the elves a taste of ringcrafting as Halbrand, and then comes as Annatar "help" them, and if it's known that Halbrand was Sauron, that they think he's now fled. Since we see *someone* gifting rings to the dwarves... this is an interesting question that can go either way: does Sauron sack Eregion (RIP Celebrimbor) in this season and begin gifting them out (so we'll see some of the men who would eventually become the Nazgul, including Khamul and the Witch King!) or do the showrunners accept the dwarf lore that the Seven were all gifts from Celebrimbor himself? I kind of like the latter, honestly. I am holding out hope that there's a real Halbrand out there who Sauron impersonated, that he *is* from a lost line of kings and will have an arc to redeem his good name... and that he'll tragically accept one of the Nine in his quest to defeat Sauron... I think that the Galadriel we have is meant to *become* the Galadriel that we know through an extended character arc. I hold out hope.
@arc7375
@arc7375 4 ай бұрын
It’s trash. Terrible. What else is there more to say?
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
"I form strong opinions by not actually engaging with the subject matter." Stay miserable I guess.
@jimjames6074
@jimjames6074 4 ай бұрын
​@@mileswright7294 Is Amazon paying you to defend this travesty or are you doing it for free.
@TobiasSmith-u9b
@TobiasSmith-u9b 4 ай бұрын
There is no reason to believe that it is going to be anything other than the bad fan fiction nonsense that season 1 was. You really can't fix a series when the 1st season was as bad as this show's 1st season was. The reality is that no one should have ever tried to make a series about the Second Age unless they were granted the rights to the Silmarillion. I have a strong feeling that a large part of the reason the show has been so bad is because they are so limited in what they can actually do based on the rights they own. With that said, even just basing a Second Age show on the appendices of the LOTR's, they could have done a lot better.
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
@user-lh6pf9rh5r then be mad that Christopher signed on the dotted line. I agree, don't make a show unless you have rights to use all relevant material. Completely there with ya. But the way Tolkien wrote some things, they'd just not work well for a TV format. This was always an impossible task. Maybe just have fun with it. The show got me to read more Tolkien aside from the trilogy. The adaptive media serves as an access point to the text. In any case, this will be the next 8 years of your life whining about it. So, enjoy your own misery, I guess.
@TobiasSmith-u9b
@TobiasSmith-u9b 4 ай бұрын
@@mileswright7294 Why are you assuming I am miserable? Seems like a big stretch that you can decipher my state of mind through minimal interaction in a comments section. Not sure how I am miserable because I have an opinion about a TV show. Anyway, I have no problem with adaptation for TV or film. The LOTR's films are an adaptation that changed plenty of things. The final product was still good. This show, in my opinion, is simply not good, even if you leave out the fact that it has very little to do with anything Tolkien wrote. If you enjoy it, then good for you. My personal opinion is that, given the ridiculous budget it has, it is pretty disappointing. You should probably stop playing this silly game of thinking you know someone's state of mind from a simple online interaction. After I am done with this reply, I will go about my day perfectly happy. This will also be my final reply regarding this. If you want to keep commenting, go ahead. Maybe someone else will go back and forth with you.
@Caioknight
@Caioknight 4 ай бұрын
Guys, if we want Amazon to stop messing around with Tolkien's legendarium, we need to ignore it, just that, because even if you hate it, you are still watching it, talking about it, and making this grow more and more, and Prime will continue to do it given how much attention folk are giving to it, but if you ignore it, i imagine Amazon would _maybe_ reconsider this series, lets not be dominated by the offense of others guys
@NightsmokeGaming
@NightsmokeGaming 4 ай бұрын
It's not Tolkien, that's all I know. Not even seen one episode, and no reason to, I'm not interested in the perversion, disrespect, and dishonor of a great man and his life's work.
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
"I form strong opinions without actually engaging the subject matter." Stay miserable I guess 🤣
@wasefmahmud
@wasefmahmud 4 ай бұрын
@@NightsmokeGaming Who cares whether you have seen it or not. One less viewer won't change the fact that the show has immense potential.
@Miau6666
@Miau6666 4 ай бұрын
@@NightsmokeGaming definition of square-minded.
@paulhess1689
@paulhess1689 4 ай бұрын
How can you say it’s “not Tolkien” if you’ve never watched it?
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 4 ай бұрын
The only thing that’s Tolkien is what Tolkien wrote
@gordonmcinnes8328
@gordonmcinnes8328 4 ай бұрын
Cieran Hines character the Witch King?
@brianjauch9958
@brianjauch9958 4 ай бұрын
Build me a season 2 worthy of Mordor!
@TobiasSmith-u9b
@TobiasSmith-u9b 4 ай бұрын
Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
@savagegtalks5912
@savagegtalks5912 4 ай бұрын
the fact that so many people watch that crap, makes me wonder how bad the next great lotr show or movie is going to be 🤣
@ifritdante5971
@ifritdante5971 4 ай бұрын
Season 2 seems to be absolutely huge. Can't wait. Thanks for the review tho!
@4G63Tx
@4G63Tx 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely cannot wait to see just how much worse this shit show gets. And of course, to Nerdrotic and Drinker’s awesome and brutally honest ( AND RIGHT) reviews
@Thisislovely07
@Thisislovely07 3 ай бұрын
Hahah how much worse? Season one was great and season 2 is even better.
@hannah51238
@hannah51238 4 ай бұрын
I think, for Galadriel, they're leaning into her competitive, power seeking side too much. She always wanted to be the best and "pass the tests" but she NEVER gave into or took power when she could have so many times. I think there is room for some artistic license with what she did with her time whilst she stayed with Eru Thingol, no reason to say she didn't learn to fight, so I can accept that part, but this Galadriel is too ego driven and not particularly wise at all
@nateorgain2495
@nateorgain2495 4 ай бұрын
but isnt this "young" galadriel? shes thousands of years younger in this than in LoTR. plenty of room for gaining the grace and wisdom
@hannah51238
@hannah51238 4 ай бұрын
@@nateorgain2495 exactly my point
@aledwilliams1366
@aledwilliams1366 4 ай бұрын
​@@nateorgain2495 She's a girl boss and I'm down with that
@scorpio_9810
@scorpio_9810 4 ай бұрын
Wait, this tripe has actual sentient human beings that are fans of it. Oh dear.
@Jrocc811
@Jrocc811 4 ай бұрын
There’s just no way to defend this show in any way. It’s a complete disaster.
@liloulux2739
@liloulux2739 4 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why you distaste Galadriel so much… ??? Do you think someone gets their wisdom and grace and knowledge from just existing? You think is more believable that she just came in the world as this perfect being without going through hardship and challenges and being stupid and having to learn and being wrong most of the time… and from this experience grow and EVOLVE over time??? She is who she is during the LoR because of her looong life and the hard lessons she surely had to learn, made her that way. Also I don’t see the Tolkien-Bro-community ever being hard on someone like Aragon. He was allowed to run away and hide and make mistakes, but Galadriel is expected to to be born perfect. Sounds fair… And to be quite honest, I would love for her and Sauron to hook up, because it would make all the Tolkien-gate-keepers and fundamentalists cry so very hard…also I just love a unorthodox romance . Also: maybe you guys should not see every change from the books or every character who acts slightly differently as YOU want them to, as this massive betrayal and absolute bad thing… even the Bible was changed and rewritten and new interpreted over and over again, but you expect Tolkien just to stay the same forever?
@nyx5376
@nyx5376 4 ай бұрын
She is supposed to be an elf. She is already a few thousand years old in this show. What do you think she did all those years? Nothing? So she can act like a teenager just for this show? No. She is already one of the wisest elves to ever exist and exceptionally powerful, as well as empathetic. She was never, for even a second, fooled by Sauron. People like you fail to understand that immortal beings don't have the same kind of character developement as humans. It just doesn't work. And if you try to do it anyways, you get Galadriel in this show, who anyone with a functioning brain hates or at least dislikes. And tbh, if Guyladriel and Sauron hook up, as you say, I'd laugh so hard, I'd lose the ability to laugh for the rest of my life. This is already not Tolkien and the few characters not created by the writers, already get their own creative names, so as to not be confused with the real ones. Grandmabrimbor is my favorite. Anyway, you people believe you love Tolkien? How? This show has nothing to do with him. I usually don't watch Ghostbusters and then talk all about how much I adore Shakespeare because of seeing it. And even if you read all that Tolkien has written, you certainly did not comprehend a single syllable or you would either hate this abomination or act as if it doesn't exist.
@0u73rh34v3n
@0u73rh34v3n 4 ай бұрын
First
@AlexisLopez-pb8ms
@AlexisLopez-pb8ms 4 ай бұрын
Season two looking better than season one is a very low bar. I do hope the story line is better, it can’t get worse. Time will tell because Amazon does have it in them to still go down hill.
@davect01
@davect01 4 ай бұрын
It looks epic at least. What a mess they have made of Celebrimbor Thank you for remaining one of the few outlets covering Rings of Power that has not devolved into just hate postings.
@S.allamerican
@S.allamerican 4 ай бұрын
Loved your video. I want to make some points. Hope you see this. So I've read a lot up on this show before season one. From my understanding the Tolkien Estate is giving them 5 seasons to do the second age. It's to be approved by them, and if I'm correct they want it to fit perfectly with Peter Jackson's trilogy. On to my second point. I love Galadriel in this. I think by the end of this series she will resemble the Galadriel from the movies. We all know Celeborn is not dead, and that he will show up at some point. I think by the end of this season she will realize what's done is done. And make peace with that. especially if Celeborn shows up. I do agree I hope they explain why the elven rings were made out of order. Other then that excited for this season.
@MBlue-sk4tr
@MBlue-sk4tr 4 ай бұрын
This trailer has been the best of them, so far. Gives me a lot of encouragement for this season!
@AmorphousGoob
@AmorphousGoob 4 ай бұрын
Funny how enjoying the show makes you an “NPC” but blindly hating it makes you…….a “freethinker”? A “real” fan? Some of you even admit to not even engaging with the show but still spend your time hating it online 😂 what miserable existences you all must have. I’ll be enjoying the show because the opinions of angry close minded nerds don’t dictate what makes a show “good” or “bad”.
@BDawg-hy7pl
@BDawg-hy7pl 4 ай бұрын
What make a the show good?
@aledwilliams1366
@aledwilliams1366 4 ай бұрын
Galadriellelelellel is a girlboss and I'm not sick of that, I swear.
@jonhunt1419
@jonhunt1419 4 ай бұрын
This series seems like it was made for fans of the movies, which didnt follow the books either. Still, something is better than nothing so not sure why all the hate.
@karerabbe7829
@karerabbe7829 4 ай бұрын
@@jonhunt1419 ok..pathetic simp..
@faustoutloud
@faustoutloud 4 ай бұрын
Because atleast in Jacksons movies he tried to stay as true as he could to Tolkien's message and didn't do things out of order or unorthodox and made the characters feel like they are from middle earth he made Galadriel smart fair and tall in this show shes a whiney brat who wants her way the elves have Haircuts and fades 😂. From what barbershop 😂. These characters just don't feel Tolkienian
@statsguy1446
@statsguy1446 4 ай бұрын
​@@faustoutloudclose minded much?
@jonhunt1419
@jonhunt1419 4 ай бұрын
Did you see his Hobbit movies? Tell me how he tried to stay true to the material. Still enjoyed them.
@HildaIvo-c4c
@HildaIvo-c4c 4 ай бұрын
Tolkien's legacy deserves more than "something" and they had the resources to accomplish amazing results, not mediocrity
@cmoneill
@cmoneill 4 ай бұрын
They are putting too much effort into making it look good. The characters likability, dialogue, and even STORY! are what need work
@TiesOfZip
@TiesOfZip 4 ай бұрын
“It could be ok?” Is the most optimistic and unrealistic thing I’ve ever heard on the internet.
@salmanmerchant7503
@salmanmerchant7503 4 ай бұрын
I loved season 1 and can’t wait for season 2. If I want the exact replica of the books I can, you know, read the books. Too much whining
@lucaslafontaine1
@lucaslafontaine1 4 ай бұрын
Look dont go into this series expecting it to be taken directly from the Silmarillion or fall of numenor you'll just be very disappointed. Im just glad that they basically keep to the lore. Yes they have made woke changes for the modern viewers but atleast we are getting middle earth stuff and not just sitting around waiting for nothing. My issue with the series is Galadriel's main involvment in the whole plot when in the books she was just in a forest with her husband trying to start Loth Lorien instead of acting as a general throughout the 2nd age when it was more Elendiel and Elrond doing that. Other than that show is fine. Not emmy material but its once again better than nothing!
@ProtoNeoVintage
@ProtoNeoVintage 4 ай бұрын
The female dwarves are still beardless. I will not be watching this season either.
@Gokkee
@Gokkee 4 ай бұрын
The sad part is that she is one of the better things about season 1 😂
@ProtoNeoVintage
@ProtoNeoVintage 4 ай бұрын
@@Gokkee from what I understand though, that is kind of a low bar
@Gokkee
@Gokkee 4 ай бұрын
@timmorris8932 The bar is 6feet under earth. xD So yeah, the bar is low ;)
@elijahbrooks1472
@elijahbrooks1472 4 ай бұрын
Bold of you to assume you’re affecting amazon by not watching😂
@ProtoNeoVintage
@ProtoNeoVintage 4 ай бұрын
@@elijahbrooks1472 I assume no such thing. How curious you believe that one must reasonably be able to assume an effect in order to act on their personal views. Most curious indeed.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 4 ай бұрын
It's $hit, as it could be something else.
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
"I form strong opinions by not actually engaging with the subject matter." Stay miserable I guess.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 4 ай бұрын
@@mileswright7294 Stay shitting on Tolkien's legacy, I guess, miserable "consoomer"
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 kinda hard to be miserable with the solid gold movie ring around my neck, but I'll try just for you.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 4 ай бұрын
@@mileswright7294 Kinda not being a consoomer yourself when you're so bravely defedning your beloved corporation.
@mileswright7294
@mileswright7294 4 ай бұрын
​@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 this doesn't even make sense for me to formulate a response. Would you like to try again?
@quirkyjoeAnimated
@quirkyjoeAnimated 4 ай бұрын
Looks awesome to me
@artten5002
@artten5002 4 ай бұрын
you gave them so many ideas in the vid, it's unfortunate if/when the show fails on the execution
@adjarho
@adjarho 4 ай бұрын
Let’s be honest, it will be better than s1 but will still fall short and prolly flop.
@kvothethebloodless3361
@kvothethebloodless3361 4 ай бұрын
If you want true pure Tolkien, don’t watch the show, don’t watch and complain in KZbin video comments, just read his books. I’m so sick of the complaining about the show not being some same exact thing as Tolkien. It’s a different medium, so right off the bat it has to be different than the books. Every single show/movie that’s based on written content is different. It has to be. It’s called reality. Stop complaining ffs.
@StephenRitter
@StephenRitter 4 ай бұрын
Hi, I haven’t seen a lot of your stuff, but I‘be enjoyed what I’ve seen. I am a bit confused by what you are talking about when you say “the lore”.
@rogelioalonzo2911
@rogelioalonzo2911 4 ай бұрын
@StephenRitter the actual books and letter written by Tolkien
@ilkvomit88
@ilkvomit88 4 ай бұрын
Hey fellow Lord of the Rings fans!! at least this looks about a bajillion times better than the shit show we Star Wars fans had to sit through with the acolyte. You talk about lore breaking in tolkien's world? Forget about it, current Star Wars has conquered that
@HVSJR-n5q
@HVSJR-n5q 4 ай бұрын
Still pushing the garbage I see.
@statsguy1446
@statsguy1446 4 ай бұрын
How dare you talk about Tolkien's work like that..
@pongtswaila7922
@pongtswaila7922 4 ай бұрын
Prime should have taken you as the director, & screenwriter.
@andrewhead1840
@andrewhead1840 4 ай бұрын
Haha I love that clip at the end of Gimli. He’s looked at the trailer and gone “We’re doomed, doomed I tell you!”
@kurtisbanks7655
@kurtisbanks7655 4 ай бұрын
Its tough to make a Lotr series and they finally did it im greatful for what we got so far so much lore to get into
@CaHgO
@CaHgO Ай бұрын
Wow, I liked your channel, but after seeing this video and your positive comments about this show, I am unsubscribing. The only possible reaction for this piece of crap is disgust! The only possible comment and verdict about it is that it is complete and utter dumpster fire, completely bastardizing Middle-Earth, Tolkien, and his entire legacy!
@morgoth173
@morgoth173 4 ай бұрын
Video 317
@20PhantoM07
@20PhantoM07 4 ай бұрын
Rings of Poo.
@christianefiorito3204
@christianefiorito3204 4 ай бұрын
Tolkien by name only. I will not watch it
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 4 ай бұрын
Trailers are much better. Seems to be a lot more optimism about this show how. Makes all the right people cry.
@nyx5376
@nyx5376 4 ай бұрын
Really? Because it makes me laugh.
@ardonthorn5
@ardonthorn5 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this!
@shereemcclelland2186
@shereemcclelland2186 4 ай бұрын
I will watch it for the hell of it, the bloke in the blonde eleven hair get up is more like it, so far Galadriel doesn’t cut it so we all will see. Hated season 1 but like I said I will watch it. 🤷‍♀️
@jameswoowaa479
@jameswoowaa479 4 ай бұрын
Season 1 was a dreadful misstep with some of the worst writing I’ve seen in a modern production. It only really served as an introduction to themes, characters and places. Hopefully, we are now more in the thick of the actual ‘Tolkien adjacent’ story. And hopefully they’ve learnt from some of the huge errors made. It looks better. It can’t be worse. Surely.
@Halafas
@Halafas 4 ай бұрын
To me S1 felt very Tolkien: slow, more interested in setting the themes and atmospheres than moving the story, focused on questions such as what is the nature of Middle-earth, how is Arda marred by Morgoth, what are the orcs, what does immortality mean, what is the dwarves relationship to their mountain and their riches etc etc. Very Tolkienian. This S2, on the other hand, whilst being extremely exciting, feels almost too action-focused. But glad to have Annatar-Celebrimbor psychological thriller going on in the midst of it all - that looks wonderful.
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