The RIP CHAMBER Update? - Patch 5.03

[@Archmeton]

This video was made on a laptop lol, wasnt at home when the update dropped, hope you enjoy it!

[@Catorales]

What laptop

[@pokemon202668]

Can you make a video on first shot bullet spread? It seems that a lot of people still have the misconception that bullets are 100% accurate on guns like vandal when not moving.

[@Archmeton]

@@Catorales skikk lynx 4

[@sfyner]

yet still better than any yter with 50k subs content

[@FunnyBloxYT]

@@Archmeton it was a nice video

[@NJzinho]

the reason why the damage values arent rounded up is because, in coding, the damage values take the base damage value and put it into a mathematical function to figure out the dropoff rather than manually inputting damage values. since numbers in most games are integer values, the decimal is dropped all together with no regard towards rounding. to a computer, a a calculated int value of 10.99 is equal to 10 since int's dont account for decimals

[@Archmeton]

Interesting!

[@ericbayer123]

Thank god, I was about to make a similar comment. Computers are weird

[@seekthuth2817]

Works the exact same way in r6 siege. When a 22 damage gun's damage was reduced by 10%, it would functionally lose 3 points of damage even though the damage was technically only dropped by 2.2. Only game I've seen remedy this well was overwatch and the way they fixed it was by actually keeping track of the decimals, with a 7 damage gun getting a 40% increase actually doing 9.8 damage.

[@Arkended]

I’m sorry but I have to “🤓” (this is mathematical bro!!”

[@Millu30]

Not unless you use "round" function which checks for that and since valorant was made on unreal engine that also use C++, i dont see any issue not to use it, also "round" will round up number if its equal or higher than .5

[@foxzo9356]

i feel like riot should've slightly nerfed chamber at most and considerably buffed most other sentinels. now it feels like the only option we have for holding sites is sage and oping duelists

[@Chemical_Alchemist]

Riot (for some reason) seems to have the idea that nerfing the agent at the top is better than buffing the agents at the bottom. Cypher was once the best agent in the beta, and now is one of the least picked agents.

[@imprincesswolfy2565]

@@Chemical_Alchemist I agree some characters need buffs, but the reason that nerfing the top characters rather than buffing everyone else is something that happened and mostly killed Overwatch: Powercreep. Buffing everyone creates a vicious cycle to keep buffing more and more characters. Then the game will still be unbalanced and metas will be created, but the game will become more and more dependent on utility rather than gunplay, like what happened with astra, or in Overwatch’s case, everyone having ~1000-2000 effective HP despite the game saying 200 hp, abilities thrown left and right, shooting shields forever, needing to use at times 3 or 4 ultimates at the same time to kill 2 or 3 players. The game gets stale and boring. So bringing a first person SHOOTER back to shooting mechanics rather than utility is healthier for the game.

[@foxzo9356]

@@imprincesswolfy2565 except every character in valorant is equal in term of shooting ability so if you don't pick a character with good utils u r crippling you and your whole team

[@Cryoptic_]

@@Chemical_Alchemist powercreep is ur answer. if u keep buffing to make everyone catch up it gets out of control fast. and its not like other sentinels arent that good. chamber has just been better and also creeping into duelist area of peeks. we saw an example of powercreep when they had to increase cost of all abilities cus there was to much of them.

[@Mrncgntu]

He's can still do 90% of the things he was able to do before, but to a slightly lesser extent. Also the sniper nerf regarding the leg shot isn't justified in my opinion

[@jasonitbzhao6173]

3:01 code handles integers very differently to normal math. When downgrading a double (decimal) value, to a integer value, it dose not round, it just simply removes the decimals. This is standard in coding and there no reason to change it so 127 is technically correct

[@dusheyo6769]

When I was thinking about stuff, that make him so picked (and that even I almost main him) is the tp refresh rate. I would say, it would be great after destroying his tp, that it would go to like 35-40 seconds, but nerfing his refresh rate of tps to only 25, because he is most dependant on that first kill. The headhunter is kinda too much, I agree with slightly shorter duration of slow. But those tp changes, with everything.. I would say they made him unplayable. Extra ult point, shorter duration of trip with 50 extra credits but adding the second back, slightly longer refresh rate of tps, yet the punishment from enemies destroying the tp, I’d understand. This is too much.

[@normalnamenormalname2083]

He still has an really quick tp, Marshall op every 8 kills, a more cost effective gaurdian pretty much. The 25 extra seconds to cool down (45 in total) is much better most of the time than like jetts dash cool down being 2 kills. Like the rate chamber gets kills makes that 1 extra kill not affect too much. The slow was just a cherry on top of his kit. As the trip is to mainly be alerted and the ult being mainly to op

[@normalnamenormalname2083]

He is still playable/good, but maybe not top tier. time will tell tho

[@dusheyo6769]

@@normalnamenormalname2083 All I am saying is that his kit was op, just it is that they are making him almost as useless as cypher. Or more like underpowered than useless. 30 seconds waiting on tp is way too much, even now when people are rushing him, he is pretty much useless(utilitywise) after one tp, which is the reason I would give him 25. Or atleast make the tp faster if they wanna do this. His ult is now balanced, same as ults of neon and jett. It is just weird that it is too much creds for Q now. They should’ve slightly nerf the recoil recovery I’d say.

[@Spyziy]

@@normalnamenormalname2083 it’s not a more cost effective guardian though you keep a guardian from round to round if you win and it shoots more accurately quicker. It also does more to the body and only has 2 shots to kill compared to 3 with light shield. It’s a massive difference and isn’t more cost effective anymore at all.

[@UltimatelyGangsty]

Chamber already has the most expensive buy, and now they’re making it even more expensive

[@last464]

I feel the chamber nerf is a bit to strong his whole kit is getting nerfed at once, I feel like they should have done this more slowly over 2-3 months VS all in one update. Another great vid keep at it

[@watertane3044]

Maybe now they bring back the second trademark…. please

[@TonySparklp]

I think the nerf for chamber is still not enough. He will still be op

[@fyrewolf7805]

Overwatch killed their game by focusing on the pro scene too much

[@KianoushAlavi]

Instead of Chamber being SSS+ Tier, he'll be Top S Tier now. Trust me bro, he's still good

[@EE_etcetera]

Great video! However, depending on the programming language it might be more optimal for Riot to truncate (cut off the 0.5) the decimal or way the programming language works when converting a float (number with a. decimal) to an int (whole number) it truncated the 0.5.

[@lanye2708]

valorant runs on UE (C++ oops) if that tells you anything

[@Cryoptic_]

@@lanye2708 UE runs on C++ not C#. anyway language doesnt matter here. they are using integers for their dmg and hp. meaning everything that would be a decimal is jsut cut of for simplicity sake. integer variables cant have decimals. if they converted from a float to a integer they could add rounding up and down, but there isnt rly good reasoning to do so. they might be using integers in the first place for dmg and HP, and floats for dmg multipliers. sounds reasonable to me.

[@bathabona2283]

That 7 damage on the legs is the difference between killing on half shields versus not. I guess they want Chamber's OP to be stronger than regular OP because its an ult with limited ammo, not a regular weapon you can buy with creds or pick up from a dead body. Its their way of keeping it better but still punishing leg shots to a degree

[@CFourxd]

3:00 happens because of the conversion from floating point back to integer, depending on the instructions used you'll get a different result if it's the cvttss2si/cvttsd2si instruction the value is truncated or if it's cvtss2si/cvtsd2si rounding is based on whatever flags are set in mxcsr

[@acfry]

those were words!

[@reddie2829]

My prediction: chamber will now be high a-tier or low s-tier instead of above s-tier, and neon and jett will stay the same

[@KianoushAlavi]

Chamber will be Top S Tier instead of SSSS+ tier lol

[@koshkamatew]

IMO even with these changes, chamber is still very strong, just not as overpowered as he was beforehand.

[@keonkla]

Personally I Will still play him i think.

[@KianoushAlavi]

@@keonkla Personally, I will still hate him because he's annoying to play against XD

[@unknowngamer_1769]

Best channel, Informative, easy to understand, and straight to the point 👍

[@flukentws]

Congrats on hitting 10k man u deserve it

[@Archmeton]

Thank you so much 😀

[@learneverything3769]

Great content once again. Never fails to deliver

[@Archmeton]

Glad you enjoy it before you watched it! :P

[@Sugondeeze]

Uff 😣

[@learneverything3769]

@@Archmeton always judge a book by its cover

[@banan9377]

To expound on the other comment regarding rounding of integers, the reason it rounds down always is that the default behavior for most integer variables (aka whole numbers: 1, 2, 3 etc) is to drop whatever is after the decimal point for the decimal numbers Ex: (pseudocode) Integer x = 4.5 Print(x) // prints 4, the computer automatically does the conversion so unless you really need to implement a round up/down like how it's usually done in normal math then it's simpler to just leave it as is

[@kaiasu3728]

They changed chamber to a sentinal now

[@brianpack369]

Most programming languages will truncate remainders when typecasting from a floating point value to an integer. They could using a rounding function before casting, though it would be slightly more costly.

[@hov2435]

Finally a much needed nerf. Some abilities just don't scale up nicely from low to high ranks, especially for agents with shooting abilities. Too often Chamber, Neon, Jett use their ults as a cheeky replacement for a gun and cut down their equipment cost for the round. If they want to get the same damage output as a gun player, they should treat their ults as guns too. This brings Neon's ult much closer to an smg and Jett's and Chamber's ult to an actual gun. Low rank players can cry about it if they can't shoot heads.

[@benjamincharlton1388]

The thing is, I always saw these ults as special, and I don't think they should've been changed with the damage multiplier.

[@Cryoptic_]

@@benjamincharlton1388 why not? u think its fair for chamber to one shot in the leg? operator doesnt and thank god for that. neon ult also sucks in higher ranks, being able to headshot with it is great. more skill expression. less forgiveness. this isnt a casual game at its core. get rewarded for headshots and punished for leg shots. thats just great.

[@benjamincharlton1388]

@@Cryoptic_ I'm not talking about balance, but the buffed op was kind of what made chamber, chamber

[@Cryoptic_]

@@benjamincharlton1388 it still is crazy more buffed than a normal OP. u equip it way faster, takes 0.6 secs. u can shoot once every 0.833, while normal op can shoot 0.6 per one second (half the firerate). chambers op can see more while scoped in. chambers ult instantly scopes in. chambers ult is free and allows him to save money for a gun in the next round. chambers ult slows on kill. chambers ult is smaller so u can see more of the screen while unscoped. now this nerf removed leg shots one shotting if u have full armor. one of maaaany things got removed. chamber ult still is way way waaay better than a normal OP

[@Arkended]

Thank you Archie for allowing me to help you on this video. If you need more help you know where to contact me!

[@blatetastic]

Btw valorant actually does do decimal, but for showcase purposes they just cut of the decimals when showing damage dealt, the decimals will still be recorded, just not shown.

[@gaminghighpriest5293]

riots like my mom she either adds too much sugar or nearly no sugar at all

[@qmvtteo1467]

I think Riot is trying to much to make chamber a sentinel. It’s clear that he is played as a duelist. Some changes are really good but I don’t know why to nerf him that much.

[@Cryoptic_]

why they nerfed him so much? idk cus hes been picked in almost every ranked and pro match? im surprised when i dont see one.... when is the last time u saw cypher most games? glad he got nerfed a lot. he can get buffs later if it is to much (which it probably isnt). hes had his time (alot of time) in the spotlight

[@H20-t4p]

In all honesty i absolutely love the nerf. Riot has tuned down chambers power level a lot in a way that isnt unhealthy without affecting how the abilities are played. If you disagree with me i have one word for you: Astra I rest my case.

[@mojojojo6535]

What happened to astra

[@H20-t4p]

@@mojojojo6535 you must have started very recently if you actually dont know what happened to her

[@mojojojo6535]

@@H20-t4p yeah And I’ve not kept on it for a while so I don’t know what hapend in game

[@H20-t4p]

@@mojojojo6535 astra used to be the most overpowered agent in the game. She had 2 universal smokes and she got both back after 25 seconds, she had 5 stars instead of 4, her suck was the most broken ability in the game, and all her cooldowns were half of what they are now including the recharge rate when you take back a star. The fact that you could hold an entire site by yourself AND help out your team on a different site from anywhere on the map made her the most overpowered agent in the game. Thankfully riot was aware of it and decided to nerf her to hell so to this day, she is so bad she is almost unviable

[@mojojojo6535]

@@H20-t4p wow

[@lanye2708]

the only change I genuinely disagree with is the nerf to chamber headhunter bullet cost, I feel like it's too harsh. I think the gun could use other nerfs instead (more specifically, its insane 0.3s equip time)

[@innocentcauliflower1651]

2:59 (Coding Lang) The damage is not "wrong" I suppose. The devs just didn't care enough. It was likely the mathematical equation 0.85 x 150 was completed by the program as you stated, but not how you thought it would end out. 127.5 is a "float" (decimal) and since valorant doesn't take decimals, when turned into an int (integer) it doesn't simply round up. (Just how it is for some reason) The way the laws of the program work just removes the .5. not all to smart in coding, tell me if I'm wrong. Edit - same applies to chamber sheriff 3:38. It probably applies to many other guns and encounters but we just don't explore that deep

[@Cryoptic_]

a float converted to an integer very often just cuts of anything behind the comma. its easy and simple, no need to add an entire equation ( if when what whatever) to figure out rounding. cutting it of to make it an int is simple and fast and efficient. works fine for valorant.

[@attackop]

I have a feeling neon might become more meta in high elo because 50ish damage per headshot combined with the insane fire rate of the ult I can see pro players absolutely melting with this change, I guess we’ll see when the update drops!

[@Cryoptic_]

not only pros hit headshots. im hoping this puts neon up there cus in high elo neon ult has been very eh

[@ZubrixSlysJore]

the best nerf for chamber, he ballanced now !!

[@KianoushAlavi]

yea idk bro. I played PBE and he's still broken lol

[@widejeff8993]

“Nothing good lasts forever”

[@nobow5795]

in programming integers will just ignore everything behind the decimal point, thats why it always gets rounded down

[@macaroon4047]

might be the hardest nerf in game history

[@itsjackio3661]

clearly havent seen the astra nerf

[@macaroon4047]

@@itsjackio3661 she defo second imo

[@itsjackio3661]

@@macaroon4047 ya ur right

[@KianoushAlavi]

The hardest nerf in game history and he's still great LMAO. On a serious note, Chamber will be Top S Tier instead of being SSSS+ Tier

[@KianoushAlavi]

I personally think Neon will be very good in VCT after the changes, Jett will be the same (means she still will be overrated), and instead of Chamber being SSSS+ Tier, he'll be Top S Tier (so still the best agent ;-;)

[@hundielias]

So heavy shield basically got buffed the legshot dropoff changes do not make any difference for half shield, still same hits required. But for Full Shield an extra hit. There was this pro strategy when players went up against vandals (bc it makes no difference) they would buy halfshield only unless the have enough money for all rounds.

[@reallyaxelstad]

I still think it's better than the absolute removal some people advocated, stopping you from replacing your tp, 4 headhunter shots and 2 Ult Bullets

[@codertb]

A good video, but as a chamber main pistol round is now a lot worse for me 4 bullets and a trip

[@Teelie_]

the fact I didn't even realise a thing when chamber got nerfed says a lot

[@CH-rk7ww]

Tenz after the nerf:

[@deadbabyseal3356]

im mourning. au revoir, chamber 😢

[@chapa_3]

In my opinion chamber will still be heavily used in pro play at least, he still can get Ops on save rounds and a sheriff for more rounds.

[@Cryoptic_]

i mean even with these, probs still viable. his sheriff still gets 6 shots for the price of a normal one. and the gun is better, and u get to keep leftover bullets. id love to see more funamental changes tho. suggestions are reduced firerate or equip speed on ult, remove slow from ult, make range between TP pylons smaller, make his ult have like 2-3 bullets (with possible refund of bullets if he gets kills) and other fundamental changes like that. glad to see legshot not oneshotting tho and ult costing 8, those were some of my suggestions ive had.

[@chapa_3]

@@Cryoptic_ Yea, Chamber is 100 percent still viable. I don’t think that they should’ve reworked the entire Agent like that and I would hate for it to be the next Astra. But if he’s still OP mabye Riot will have to. I do think that he will be able to hold angles just fine. His trip wire from what I saw was just to get info so I doubt that does much. I still think he is a top sentanal

[@Cryoptic_]

@@chapa_3 i think reworks can be bad aswell. problem was releasing him as half a duelist in the first place. maybe they find a genious solution like they did with jett

[@apefy]

Great video like always

[@kon4564]

I think these changes to chamber are very much needed but i don't think its enough to remove him from the meta his ultimate is still the best ability/gun in the entire game his tp is still the best get out of jail free card his trap is still big enough to cover any flank effectively he is still a pain to deal with but he is a less of a pain than before especially in pistol rounds

[@Cryoptic_]

ult is still crazy. i want some more fundamental changes. glad to see the other nerfs, but i feel like nerfing differently would be better. suggestions are reduced firerate or equip speed on ult mayb pistol, remove slow from ult, make range between TP pylons smaller, make his ult have like 2-3 bullets (with possible refund of bullets if he gets kills) and other fundamental changes like that. glad to see legshot not oneshotting tho and ult costing 8, those were some of my suggestions ive had.

[@ethanwood1737]

@@Cryoptic_ I think the time between shots needs a reduction and he’s good

[@Cryoptic_]

@@ethanwood1737 possibly. im rly loving the idea of 2-3 shots in mag and a refund for every kill / every other kill. rewards ppl who are good with ult and makes it worse for ppl who arent using it correctly. firerate is still something i wish would change tho. or at least ADS time

[@the-regularguy]

The punished my boi too much :")

[@Badger99873]

I know it's off topic, but I just wanted to ask how do you have so little subscribers? You make great educational content, you deserve much more! Since you made your pistol round video, I've been getting 4k and 3k every pistol rounds, you are a great youtuber.

[@Archmeton]

Haha great to hear, i rather have 10k subs like you than 100k that dont comment :)

[@Badger99873]

@@Archmeton Well, at least if you have less subscribers you can interact more with your subscribers. Also thanks for making me realise how op the frenzy is. I use it all the time on eco.

[@imprincesswolfy2565]

@@Archmeton and why do you have so few videos?!? I love watching them, they’re perfectly explained, easy to understand and adapt into my game, your voice is relaxing and your videos are super high quality. I can’t get enough of them, but there’s so few of them. I’m joking and not trying to force you, but yeah, I love your videos and keep the amazing work. You absolute king 👑

[@Swaex]

im chamber/neon main and dont know how to feel about that, sure chamber is pretty strong but im a tracking demon with neon ult so i kinda like that

[@quiltmin]

Finally it's here

[@kannankrish1824]

the only sentinel part of chamber's kit was his trap, he needed one more imo if the time and everything was reduced by that much

[@DualityofLife]

then you dont know what a sentinel is. Sentinels are NOT “trip guys”, sentinels are designed to be able to lockdown areas, nothing else. Chamber does this with the awp, and thats completely fine that way. The awp is played in the playstyle of a sentinel, get over it. The jett on your team that buys an op and camps sites with it is playing like a sentinel.

[@bigbrianilel]

unless they make it so chamber takes more time to tp then he will always be meta for the reason hes rn. he will always get 1 or 2 rounds in a halfwhere he doesnt have to buy because he got his ult, he still has the fastest get out of jail free card out of any agent (allthough its bugged and he tps even after he dies) and he can do a lot of stuff very well.

[@DualityofLife]

nah look at jett. jett didnt get the time of her dash nerfed, but infact, shes not at all meta anymore (in pro play where the meta is correctly defined). If u nerf the teleport duration tho, the character literally has 0% pickrate and is unrevivably dead.

[@shari0n]

Chamber got nerfed waay to Hard. I liked him because you could get away with a lot of risky plays while leaving the duellist role open for someone who can entry well. I also enjoyed the extra firepower in pistol rounds an didnt think it was too good. You can have 4 shots and a shield, making you a Mini raidboss if you can land them OR go with 8 shots which is trading off shots for range if you go with that over a sherriff. All in all, the nerfs to the ult and trap are reasonable but the tp and headhunter nerfs are overblown although i agree with the 30sec cooldown

[@Alex-hx7zd]

what was riot smoking when buffing headshot neon ult, she already is extremely good with her ult

[@benmullenix4205]

chambers nerf are heavy but i still feel liek the base of his kit is still too much. a 150 shot isnt gonna matter aside from pistol round. i think the tp range nerf was uncalled for but the times make sense. i think they should've keep the 20 second tp to incentivize destroying his tp

[@wowswowman]

Chamber is crying in his expensive condo right now

[@trianxity4337]

i'm kinda scared to see high level neon players with the new buff.

[@KianoushAlavi]

She was already starting to be good in Pro. Oh boy...

[@SimplyThatSleepyGuy]

I think the regional damage should be tweaked and leg dmg should be increased but not too much, and they should get rid of regional damage for neon ult since there is already damage dropoff

[@sethforesi307]

The Jett “nerf”pretty much does nothing, if you’re hitting people in the legs with her ult you should not be playing Jett anyway

[@KianoushAlavi]

Exactly lol

[@oregano2771]

I feel that the chamber cooldown nerf is going a bit too far, basically let's him use his tp once a round. Personally as a Neon main I see the changes a a buff, being able to melt people in 3 ticks is absolutely insane.

[@gabbro-sg5gr]

ivw a feeling every game would be more fun without nerfs, just buffs

[@davidstudenik]

I was training chamber and trying to main him. Now i will never lock him again

[@pixxlated_]

Where's our Astra changes though? :( *Astra* 1.6% pick rate 29.8% win rate 2.0% kill percentage *Chamber* 9.7% pick rate 46.2% win rate 10.2% kill percentage I'm really happy to see Chamber nerfed though. Either you have a Chamber and the enemy didn't (you win) or you DON'T have a Chamber and the enemy does (you lose).

[@KianoushAlavi]

Astra isn't bad. She had a decent 24% Pickrate on Masters Copenhagen follwed by Brim and Omen who had 30%

[@radioactivemango2029]

Favorite KZbin 👍👍👍

[@aminikamini8394]

How I would’ve needed chamber to become more balanced and to be more like a sentinel and less like a duelist His op and rev can only be used when within range of an anchor and when it’s activated. This way they are used more defensively and are harder to use aggressively like a duelists. The to recharge time that they already did

[@Spyziy]

I think the gun price nerf was unnecessary but the rest is definitely needed. Personally I think it’s to much at once and they should of spaced each of these nerfs a week apart or so till they find the agent is more balanced.

[@Cryoptic_]

its fine imo. if it turns out to be to much nerfs fine then buff him. at least we can get some months without chamber in every game. thats only if thats the case and i dont think its to much.

[@schizophrenic1735]

Headhunter nerf was not needed. It's meant to be an eco option and depends on the Chamber's skills. They should keep the TP range at 21m. however increase the cooldown to 25s, and 30s when destroyed. Also, the Ult should be able to one-shot (also depends on the player's skills)

[@negativeiq1438]

video length WWYSI WYSI WYSI

[@youshouldntaddzombottothisdeck]

I will be suprised if I see chamber in pro meta after the update

[@i.amvulcan8373]

I've seen 1080p 60 and 1080p 50 but not 1080p 48. So strange.

[@EEZ37]

They really destroyed Chamber right after I decided to unlock him

[@Cryoptic_]

ur way to late to the chamber party

[@EEZ37]

@@Cryoptic_ Ikr, still vibing smoker main

[@Cryoptic_]

@@EEZ37 good lad u are

[@EEZ37]

@@Cryoptic_ lol

[@Luis_eins9]

Nice vid

[@JeuxAleatoires_B]

Don't worry for jett mains in lower elos it already took them 5 knifes to not get a kill

[@thesun4003]

YES YES YES

[@majormushu]

Chamber needs his 2nd trap back. Yes, he needed a nerf, don't get me wrong. But they are treating it like KJ and Cypher are seeing low play just because chamber is OP which isn't the case. KJ and Cypher are just trash at the moment and that's coming from a former KJ main.

[@DualityofLife]

giving chamber his second trip bacj makes him more like the other sentinels, taking away the little niche for cypher they made by making it one. its straight stupid to have two trips, a sentinel is not a trip guy, he can lockdown with his op, which is hiw sentinel aspect. Get over that hes not completely op anymore and give other agents their place.

[@majormushu]

@@DualityofLife "he can lock down with an op" sure, on defense but you can't have 1 person always holding flank with an op on attack. Also, big surprise, anyone can do that, it isn't special to chamber. Sentinels are flank watch and holding down sites with their tech. 1 trip isn't enough to make him an effective sentinel. It won't make him OP to give him a 2nd trip it will just make him an actually useful agent. When he was OP he was useful because it was like the old jett dash and his pick rate was insane mainly because jett was nerfed right around the time that chamber arrived on scene so he replaced her for Operator cover. He is the Reyna of sentinels. Reyna is really just someone with a gun. Her blind is garbage and her other items require you to get a kill to make them useful so her only "take space" mechanic is to have good aim. Chamber has 2 guns, a trip, and a tp. His tp is now basically a 1 time use most rounds and with only 1 trip it basically makes him just a dude with a gun but just a TAD more useful than Reyna which isn't saying much.

[@DualityofLife]

@@majormushu riot has literally NEVER stated that sentinels are flank watchers with util. Sage isnt a flank watcher at all either, she can lockdown sites tho, therefore shes a sentinel. The comparison of Chamber to Reyna is very much true tho. Chamber has, similar to reyna, zero utility for things like retake. With the power as the only real agent to op effectively, it helps that he has another downside with the zero utility. Reyna doesnt give you anything for her zero utility tho, that is the one thing differentiating these two agents.

[@majormushu]

@@DualityofLife "Sentinels are defensive experts who can lock down areas and watch flanks, both on attacker and defender rounds." I pulled this from the valorant wiki but I'm pretty sure it's the same exact description that RIOT uses in game... so tell me again how they aren't intended to hold flank according to riot?

[@anonymousblank6269]

I am fine with all the chamber nerfs except for the radius nerf

[@shotgunuser9560]

Deserved nerf for chamber. Some rounds once he pops the ultimate in conjunction with the teleport you literally can't get past him. But other than that I don't see a reason for the pistol nerf. Might be the only thing left keeping him usable

[@haruka0002]

Buff chamber im tellin’ ya, because I’m a chamber main:( sorry, was. Think I won’t be playing so much valorant for now.

[@realms4582]

What I learned is riot can't to basic math

[@inuaxzm]

the rounding thing is just a computer thing

[@mythlessrwf]

Damage calculations are basically truncated, this is likely due to coding/programming reasons as what other people are saying

[@Vanille173]

I think just don't nerf the trap CD, the rest I'd say pretty balanced

[@damienzwikstra1667]

valorant does do decimals, just not on your screen

[@-td8663]

as long as chamber has his OP , its broken

[@iankim9267]

dis is seal

[@weirdo7379]

I used to play Jett and Jett ONLY, but recently ive switched to chamber and Chamber ONLY bc I just couldn’t play her any more dont know how and now they nerf chamber. Riot are you kidding me that should count as cxberbullying

[@Mlattee]

at this point, i dont wanna play chamber anymore.

[@KianoushAlavi]

agent is still OP

[@comradcow3931]

Goodbye chamber

[@KianoushAlavi]

Spoke too soon bro. Beenn playing him in PBE, actually doesn't effect agent in any way

[@ryangoslinglover2]

that nerf on jett is so fckn unnessacary omg

[@ss.storiessss]

The currency is credits

[@goodevening1061]

As a chamber main this greatly saddens me

[@deadbabyseal3356]

we can cope together bro.

[@KianoushAlavi]

don't worry bro he's still OP which means i still have to go against them in ranked ;-;

[@skulmask9647]

i think in coding, the number only round down. might be wrong, i just started to pick up coding :)

[@skulmask9647]

give back his second trip pleasssee riot

[@MineCraftModsFinder]

neons rate of fire tho- for low elo players she's a demon for that same reason

[@viktorradevic1299]

Chamber is literally unplayable now. I know Im bias as a chamber main but hear me out: the teleport nerfs he had coming, 20sec is just too short. But everything else is kinda dumb. They are making him less and less sentinel by nerfing his camera, and you might as well buy a sheriff if you have to pay 1200 for the ability. Hes probably gonna get buffed later

[@Cryoptic_]

u get 6 bullets for his sheriff which is a better sheriff. and if u die u keep ur bullets. stil way better than buying a normal sheriff. also what camera? he doesnt have one. chamber has been picked in almost every ranked and pro game. if there was a ban system chamber would probably be banned 80% of the time. hes been on top of the meta for aaaaageees. if it is to much, great. lets have some peace before he gets buffed again. i dont think these nerfs kill. they just keep him in check.

[@KianoushAlavi]

Yea he aint getting buffed because the agent is still OP. PBE helps a lot

[@darren8608]

the 3x damage multiplier for neon ult is too excessive. a 2x or 2.5x would be more appropriate imo.

[@Sugondeeze]

Nice 👌

[@shooty5]

🙏

[@allanmasanegra9523]

I hope they add gifting in valorant, and fade is now op, because chamber is nerfed

[@devsaidshh]

So its less of a Jett nerf and more like a skill ceiling as was the dash where the worse Jetts will stop playing her?

[@Cryoptic_]

its called less forgiveness. more reward for actual use of brain, and less rewards for those undeserving :)

[@devsaidshh]

@@Cryoptic_ Yep so as a jett/omen player I am happy that one the nerf wont affect me bc I haven't hit a knife to the leg in about forever and as an omen because jetts wont dash straight through my smoke with ult and die after one knife hits

[@Cryoptic_]

@@devsaidshh yeah its great. idk why ppl are defending and against these leg changes for neon jett and chamber. it should be less forgiving to shoot legs. it is for every other agent, every other gun in the entire game. its not new. its just special treatment/privledge they have had which is now being taken away

[@ethanwood1737]

They just gave chamber the astra treatment

[@KianoushAlavi]

and he's still broken

[@zWxve]

RIP Chamber

[@KianoushAlavi]

yea no. Agent still broken. Tested in PBE

[@latenighttherapy6369]

Chamber is now just a terrible duelist because you cant entry as good as… well every other duelist in the game. His “sentinel” roles just revoked and now he is a duelist. Can’t change my mind.

[@najmaht.a.1314]

okay you can nerf chamber, but can we get buffs for other sentinels?

[@Cryoptic_]

shouldnt be needed. dont want powercreep. nerf the outliars first. then buff the ones that are outliars at the bottom later. reason other sentinels arent picked as much is because chamber is taking up all that sentinel space. just wait. other sentinels are gonna be more relevant now.

[@Germanbjvfhv]

whats the point of giving a charecter a sniper if its not uniqe

[@shockmaker1524]

Look how they massacred my boy...