The Rise, Fall, and Rebirth of the Pac-12

[@thomascoburn5481]

As an Oregon State fan, it makes me proud that we are the last founding Member still in the Pac

[@aztecforlife7360]

I am very happy that the PAC 12 conference will not die. It is a new beginning for a storied conference. Looking forward to watching them grow and prosper.

[@Nathan_Lara]

The pac made the right choice with these four schools. There's more number like market and attendance that support teams like Fresno and Boise over Memphis and Tulane but even on the field results skew towards them. The only other g5 that stacks up to Boise and Fresno is Air Force with a decent media market too. UNLV and UTSA are both programs on the rise with huge media markets and recuiting pools too. In a what have you done for me lately type of way Tulane and Memphis should definitely be tha pac 12s top priotities along with UNLV, UTSA, and Air Force. Conference titles since 2000: Boise: 13 Fresno: 4 San Diego: 3 Colorado St: 2 Winning seasons since 2000: Boise: 24 Fresno: 17 San Diego: 12 Colorado St: 10 10+ Seasons since 2000 Boise: 17 Fresno: 6 San Diego: 5 Colorado St: 3 Bowl wins since 2000 Boise: 12 Fresno: 9 San Diego: 6 Colorado St: 4 # of times Made the top 25 since 2000: Boise: 19 Fresno: 10 Colorado St: 5 San Diego: 4 All time conf. Championships Fresno: 29 Boise: 21 San Diego: 21 Colorado St: 15

[@thedankpanda8995]

Tulane will prob get an ACC nod in the next big realignment process. Geographically wouldn’t make sense for tulane to join a less prestigious conference in the west. Either they get that or the SEC which is unlikely. Realistically the next SEC targets would be Clemson, FL State, Miami, and Virginia Tech. I don’t see any NC teams leaving the ACC anytime soon

[@xfacta334]

Looking at whats out there you got: UNLV, Wyoming Tulane, Memphis, Tulsa, UTSA, Rice, UAB Liberty, UTEP Texas St, App St, Ga St, Troy Buffalo, Toledo, NIU, Ohio The 3 Service Academies And whatever is left after the ACC collapses. Decent options for what this conference is gonna be. (No USF or UConn because they're probably going to the B12 sometime soon)

[@ChristopherORourke-s7g]

It's good that San Diego State,Fresno State,Colorado State & Boise State will make the Pacific 2 Conference the Pacific 6 Conference. It should add San Jose State & Hawaii to the Conference which would make it the Pacific 8 Conference.

[@ncaa4life611]

UNLV would be a nice add: good at football and had good basketball history

[@joeguerra8435]

Fortune favors the bold. No longer is the PAC 2 wondering alone in the wilderness. With the addition of Utah State, plus Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State, and the San Diego State University, then there were 7. One short of the magic number of 8 for full NCAA conference membership status. It’s a good time to be in the PAC. A prospect, one year ago, that seemed like only a distant possibility pipe dream. Never quit. The PAC moves forward as it has for over 108 years.

[@j.thompson9345]

Keep the history and rebrand the league from the Pac-12 to The Pac. Then add Tulane, Memphis, UNLV, USF, Rice, UTSA Washington State Oregon State Boise State Fresno State Colorado State San Diego State UNLV Memphis Tulane UTSA USF Rice

[@ryansuter4424]

Regionality? The current PAC 12 could stay regional if they convince the other non power conference to make regionality a focus and they all sign a contract to not sign with any of the current “power 4” conferences for the next 15 years. Also all the Non power 4 conferences should form an additional college playoff and championship that is separate from the current CFP.

[@oscarleiva470]

Would be fire if unlv gets an invite

[@47knives]

I'm surprised about Fresno getting in before them, but if the the whole UNLV being tied to NRV is true they might be screwed

[@punchy5668]

If any teams should be in UNLV should be top 5

[@M_11_m41n]

UNLV would have to bring Nevada as well.

[@PvtPooter]

I think they will.

[@Fred_JMZ]

Texas State & UTSA need to join this new PAC-12

[@ReisterJP]

One doesn't have a stadium on campus and txst looks like a high school Stadium

[@vorsye]

I agree they’re a better fit for the conference.

[@futurecoug2012]

Fantastic video, but i dont think we can downplay the blame & the roll played by both FOX & ESPN in the demise of the Pac, alongside the B1G

[@incarnateflame3462]

This is a story about greed destroying something people loved Its never gonna be the same, the games are exciting but most of the tradition is gone. Diet NFL.

[@andrewbsfootballarchives4247]

Also, the 2 members left over, Wazzu and OSU will definitely get the last laugh. I'm a Husker alum and fan, and these Big 10 wannabes are just cringe on a whole new level. Tanking 100 years worth of tradition just to go and get paid to get obliterated by a conference you are not part of, not in proximity to, nor fitting in with the style of play, all for the Almighty Dollar. Pathetic... Both of these schools have a much better shot at a G5 auto bid, than those 4 joke schools will ever have now. Plus, they get to split all that money they won in the lawsuit, and build the future. So yeah, I rest my case. They get the last laugh. So glad to see the Cougars get that win on Saturday.

[@trackstar1337]

As a husky fan, as mad as I am to lose to the damn cougs, in the corner of my heart I am happy they won. We abandoned a storied conference for nothing more than a few dollars just to become a middling team.

[@Colin-Fenix]

Isn’t the BiG champion and No 1 ranked team one of those ”joke” schools?

[@gs4395]

Hmm, what if Hawaii or One of the FCS schools joined? That could help

[@randallnewton]

Cal and Stanford, come home!

[@americanhero1234]

Good show Pac##

[@HeinzFugenstie]

I am honestly an Oregon fan but Oregon has always been stereotyped as Corporate and not a homegrown team that's loyal to the state. I would always brush that aside but no here it is and it is Oregon State that is standing up for the Pac-12 and Oregon left for the money. At a loss. Still an Oregon fan but now I dont know.

[@blkspinosa1283]

When did Stanford and Cal join the lawsuit?

[@RyanDooley55]

NIU and Toledo should join the PAC 12!

[@gs4395]

Not in the Pacific

[@RyanDooley55]

@@gs4395 does that matter in college football anymore? Cal is in the ACC

[@gs4395]

@@RyanDooley55 really? Why would NIU, a lackluster mid program, and Toledo, a good program, want to join a great conference? How would they even pay? You literally heard the man talk about the costs of joining the PAC-12. Maybe the MAC Costs to exit are lower. But that still wouldn't make technical sense because they would have to bring their rivals in.

[@sully8888]

The Mac is perfect, don’t touch 😑

[@RyanDooley55]

@@gs4395NIU made the orange bowl and beaten some incredible teams. Yeah for a few years it might be rough but both teams will benefit from the competition. NIU just beat the #5 team in the nation but they couldn’t handle playing Washington state? Toledo beat SJSU last year. Both teams have nearly just lost to UofI. They will be fine in the new conference.

[@butchcassidy8965]

Tulane, Memphis, Texas State I hope get invited/join the new PAC 12 conference.

[@M_11_m41n]

What I truly wish is for the Pac-12 to always remain a geographical conference and honor that tradition. Merge with the Mountain West, get New Mexico State, get UTEP, and become a fun geographically Western Conference.

[@gs4395]

No. First off, there is a Mountain East Conference in DII. Do the Mountain West really want to remove it's stories history because they can merge with a conference? Besides, maybe the Mountain West can still get even better.

[@M_11_m41n]

@@gs4395 With how college football is going these conferences are going to have to make very difficult decisions that they should not be making. However having a football only Mountain Pacific Football Conference would do wonders for them. But, that probably won't happen because conferences have thrown logical geography out the window for those stupid TV contracts.

[@xfacta334]

That tradition has make enough money for it to survive and that my friends is why the SEC will be the only geographical major conference going forward.

[@dashien2605]

If tx and Oklahoma had came over, Washington and usc would not be able to recruit

[@jackpackage9386]

Larry Scott should be in prison for how corrupt he is

[@TakashiL-b6o]

Greed

[@devonchambers7569]

I'd be pleased if the Pac would just absorb the Mountain West. I can't say I want to see another geographically spread out conference.

[@xfacta334]

UNLV, Wyoming & Air Force are the only thing left in the MWC now.....and the Pac will likely come back for them after raiding everybody else In the G5.

[@Colin-Fenix]

The PAC 12 IS a relic of the past… this is just the MWC with someone else’s logo! Stop kidding yourself!

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

I think that a reverse merger with the Mountain West would have been better and less hypocritical. The PAC-2 cannot wail and say that they've gotten left behind but is raiding another conference leaving Wyoming behind. I also dislike this talk of persuading the Nevada State Legislature to break up UNLV and Nevada when Oregon and Washington did the same thing to them.

[@gs4395]

Poor Wyoming...they not getting left behind. They probably gonna be like "Idaho and Montana", come to help me create a new FBs league.

[@xfacta334]

Consolidation is a game of musical chairs. This particular game here has being going for 70+ years now and the MWC aren't innocent bystanders in all this. At the end of the day somebody gotta get left without a seat....better him than me.

[@Calebb000]

Personally, I don't think San Diego State deserves the pac-12. In the past they haven't proved that they area dominant team in the MWC. I think ever San Jose State, Air Force and Colorado State could have all potentially had been better picks. But game is game, wouldn't also be surprised if a fcs team like ndsu would end up in the MWC in the near future

[@Rileytravassos]

Colorado state got in

[@M_11_m41n]

North Dakota State will not join for a multitude of reasons.

[@pascho1057]

@@M_11_m41nSan Diego might be for basketball ig

[@gs4395]

Well....San Jose State isn't considered a dominant program. It is solid. This year, maybe they can become good.

[@dakquacky]

North Dakota State and South Dakota state

[@M_11_m41n]

North Dakota State and South Dakota State will not join the FBS unless you get all four of the FCS Dakota schools. Not to mention, they do not have the scholarship requirements or the revenue to even make the jump to the FBS level. And, I think they're fine competing for national championships then a meaningless bowl win.

[@gs4395]

​@@M_11_m41nthey can make their own conferences though. I mean, think about the 4 Dakota schools in a conference with others around the region.

[@M_11_m41n]

@@gs4395 And there's another issue with that. The Missouri Valley Football Conference and the Missouri Valley Conference are two separate entities under the same banner when it comes to sports. Not only would the four Division 1 Dakota schools have to pay to get out of that conference and pay to move up to the FBS as well, but they would also have to conversate with the actual conference that they and all of their non-football sports are actually affiliated to, The Summit League.