The Rise & Fall of Disney Channel | Share Your Screen Episode 2

The rise and fall of Disney Channel is one of the most fascinating times of popculture history. From the 90s to 2019, Disney had a near monopoly over ever corner of the entertainment industy. From music, to TV, to movies, they were churning out stars in what one could only describe as a popstar factory. In this episode, we took a deep dive on the origins of Disney Channel, it's rise to stardom, and what cause Disney channel to lose it's edge in the social media and streaming era. How the mistreatment of their talent seems to only be a symptom of a greater culture problem, and how Disney's obsessive need for control is reflected today with their out of touch responses to the WGA and SAG writer's strike.
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[@CocoMocoe]

My mind was blown when Nicky pointed out the similarities between the Lizzie McGuire movie and the plotline of Hannah Montana 🤯

[@monorailxcx]

the flow chart reminded me of how bridgit mendler appeared on wizards before starring in good luck charlie! and how after 1 album with hollywood records she ended up taking a step back from entertainment all together & getting multiple degrees. very interesting trajectories for all the post-miley disney stars!

[@NickyandCoco]

That's such a good point! There were SO many times they did this I couldn't even track down them all. It shows how systematic their "pop star factory" was

[@lisah8438]

There was also Good Morning Ms. Bliss which was a Disney Channel sitcom in the 80s and was canceled. Which was picked up again by CBS and revamped into Saved by the Bell. Which almost got canceled but became really popular. I wonder if Disney fumbled the bag on that one too. It did inspire a lot of Disney and Nick shows that came after.

[@NickyandCoco]

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR WATCHING! Comment and let us know what niche pop culture topics you want us to dive into next

[@matthewsperspective]

the evolution of product placement in music videos always interested me bc it’s now it’s obviously there ????

[@PetitePollyPocket]

It’s so crazy too when you think about ppl like Mitchell Muso, Emily Osmet, Alyson Stoner or Rashon Fagan who were side characters but have been in so many Disney properties. Like I remember Alyson as a child on “Mikes super short show” which they played during commercial breaks. Disney made sure not to miss another opportunity to cross promote, and use their stars to the fullest potential. It’s really sad and unfortunate especially hearing them as adults describe how they had to always be “on” they never got to make mistakes or cut loose without scrutiny to the highest degree. Carrying the weight of being our role models and for a lot of them being the provider for their families, all while juggling the ups and downs that come with being a teenager it’s no wonder that all of the stars have spiraled….I truly hope these stars have all been able to heal and unpack the trauma and burden that they were unfairly given.

[@cassiomartinz]

I grew up with all of these products from the Disney Channel. I was crazy for the High School Musical franchise, Miley/Hannah, Camp Rock, and to this day I'm a hardcore Selena Gomez fan. It's so close to my heart that I have a subscription on Disney Plus just because of those shows and movies. Nicky did a fantastic job tying all of those points together! Amazing!

[@oliviaisbored]

Part 2 definitely needed, will blow up if talked about alongside Nickelodeon

[@vodkajaybulls]

Y'all got me messed up! This is some real talk. This checks out!! I'm from this era and you woke me to something!!!!

[@Lucassimonetti]

I never get tired of watching this thank you Nikki and cocoa for bringing this into the public.

[@HH-lr2zt]

Am I the only one shocked that Breaking Benjamin was signed to Hollywood Records?

[@amandasoul]

23:45 that’s so raisin 💀😂

[@jaylenepichardo9119]

look into how zendaya negotiated her contract for kc undercover to be a producer n have creative control over her character

[@Malinzo]

Really enjoying the podcast, but the empty reaction (shots) like "woah" and stuff were kinda distracting. Might just be me though, I usually only listen to one-person-podcasts

[@althealaprey4411]

i always remember seeing Miley dancing by the pool at the end of HSM 2

[@AlyssaMeara]

I love the episodes so far! Can’t wait for more!!

[@lisah8438]

Plus The Cheetah Girls came before High School Musical. So, The Cheetah Girls is what made Disney get the idea that you can make these people into pop stars as well as Liizzie McGuire

[@nicolelilian853]

The first show I ever went in my life was a Hilary Duff concert in Brazil it's crazy to think now how famous she was to make a show here (I think it was in 2007) that's before TikTok and even before KZbin became such a huge thing. She was famous because of Disney Channel and it was a paid channel at the time.

[@ahsatan8997]

Nickelodeon is crazy too that might be interesting

[@NickyandCoco]

Stay tuned😉

[@primrosejones8406]

At least Disney Channel still has life on the channel Nickelodeon is definitely dead so they definitely should do a video on the death of Nickelodeon

[@sabinafarsova7395]

you are so good, i know u from tiktok and i’m kinda surprised you don’t have that many views on yt!! i love it!!

[@PixiePadlock]

This was so insightful aaaaa, love you guys

[@lelice87]

You two are brilliant!!

[@blake7457]

Dude I absolutely love this channel. I can’t wait for y’all to post more!!!

[@juliaperri6528]

This is THE BEST deep dive of Disney. Don’t argue HAHAHA

[@vanessav1997]

This is easily my new fave podcast!

[@Christabelthemedic]

In my opinion, the last Disney channel show that could have really given a second golden age to Disney channel was “Girl meets World” the spin off to Boy meets World. The show did not have the creative freedom in the way Boy meets world was allowed to talk about difficult topics and realism. Disney could have use this as a spring board to sit in a new culture space, a blend of what Freeform channel was but still hitting that soft relatability for those who are sitting in or transitioning to adulthood. It seems Disney decided to regress or revert back to kid shows but even worse by only creating content with surface level ideas and no depth. In time Disney channel lost its functionality. Disney channel on tv does not exist now in certain countries, Disney plus is now the only form of this content. I think it all seems that those who can’t adapt to what is glaring at the them in the face almost always certainly loose their power to some capacity, in this case Disney defining or leading media content to create these top celebrities.

[@AngelJacindia]

Mileys first hanah tour was infact with the cheater girls back in late 2006(as an opening act) right before miley went on her own hannah tour of 2007/8 Also side bar miley and her mum legally changed her name from desitney hope cryus to miley ray back in 2007 so Disney couldnt use her name once she left.

[@Taylor1998taylor]

This is so interesting❤

[@nuehmi]

👏👏👏 y'all are awesome! gonna watch the BARBIE episode after I've watched the movie :))

[@NickyandCoco]

Let us know what you think!!

[@Lucassimonetti]

I don't know if anybody else commented on this maybe maybe not but when I'm writing this I don't see nothing but Im wondering if they were just acting surprised but they really knew when someone meaning that one of them told them something and they just acted surprised

[@Maahlindoso]

brooo. so, i've only watched only the first season of HSMTMTS and that show is the disney version of glee. And to this day, i don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

[@lizzielopez5619]

I’m not sure if you guys said it but also Miley made a cameo in HSM 2 at the end at the dance pool scene!!

[@k41954]

I need to know where Coco’s dress is from!!

[@SizzlingVibe]

But if Disney is a family brand, I can understand them having conditions for what their willing to promote. They’re still greedy and a little too controlling, but I do think not all of their limits or rules were a bad thing.

[@charliewithasemicolon]

This was so interesting!!

[@lisah8438]

And another trope, the main character has 3 best friends. One boy, one girl.

[@themischief420]

that's only 2, dude

[@Fog_Hill]

Ummm this was an iconic podcast! ❤ also remember Aly and AJ?

[@CocoMocoe]

Thank you! And yessss omg. 'Potential Break Up Song' is so unique. No one has ever made anything similar to it.

[@Fog_Hill]

Omg and I just remembered that Even Steven’s episode called “Extravaganza” where they made them all sing just to see if the public like picked any of them out for a career 😂.

[@NickyandCoco]

@@Fog_Hill Aly & AJ were EVERYTHING

[@lisah8438]

So disney channel kind of took their idea from motown records?

[@lisah8438]

Wasnt Hilary Duff 12 when she started as well.

[@Luvmarcy19]

Did episode one get taken down? I’m a new subscriber and was looking. Love your stuff. ❤

[@lisah8438]

No. The first episode is about Barbie

[@courtneyn.m.1687]

I would love to hear you both talk about why you think Disney is in a downfall - all I see when looking for comment on the subject is lame anti-lgbtq perspectives. I don’t mind the lgbtq storylines and genuinely just want to know why everything is so formulaic and disgusting, which I think you do touch on here, but I’m also wanting to hear why (or if) you think EVERY Star Wars is just garbage, and all marvel movies are getting overplayed and too similar

[@primrosejones8406]

Please do a rise and fall of Nickelodeon because that network is definitely dead

[@DududududuSALIBA]

Enough inflections to dude. Good pod tho.

[@Sunny-pk8ev]

An interesting video. A bit of feedback, if youre interested... 1) Check your facts, dates etc thoroughly. Your flow chart was cool but there were things out of order. From a viewers perspective, inaccurate info. makes us not trust the speaker 2) Cut out all the times "ok" and "whoa" is said. Save the "whoa" for when something important is revealed. The second person said "ok" So. Many. Times. It was genuinely annoying. Anyway, thats just my opinion ✌️

[@sqrlgrl]

💯 agreed & the ending was mad abrupt

[@ImperialMJG]

Exactly. He lost me when he talked about A Cinderella Story because that was WARNER BROS. Not Disney. And had nothing to do with Disney Channel. I got the impression that he does not know that Box Office revenue means its been released in cinemas. So thats really lazy. All this isnt difficult to understand if you have a brain. Its like they found out something really crazy and secret. Also no tv series were to surpass 100 episodes (Wizards ended on 106, but thats including specials). So they had to have this machine.

[@ImperialMJG]

LOL...A Cinderella Story is a Warner Bros. movie...not Disney! How can u as a marketing "expert" not notice that?😂

[@thewhiterabbitchaser]

warner bros made A cinderalla story, not disney. bad research, disappointing to see. oh you've also spelled Britney* wrong at 16:27

[@A.mnawar222]

WOW❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@DududududuSALIBA]

Need shawty she fine

[@amber0290]

I found Coco on TikTok a while back and even tho I no longer use the app, I loved her! I am SO obsessed with this channel. Both of your takes and how you build off of one another is so fun to listen to. I’ve been binging all day and I cannot wait to see how you both grow!! 🫶🏼