The Rise & Fall of the Muslim Ummah and the Printing Press - Dr. Yasir Qadhi | 4th January 2012

Lessons from History - In this special lecture, Shaykh Dr. Yasir Qadhi discusses the political rise and fall of the Muslim Ummah and how it coincides with the development of paper and the spread of the Printing Press.
Recorded on 4th January 2012

[@abdulhamidusman2278]

I can now understand why Dr Yasir has so many haters or critics what ever you may callthem. This man is light years ahead of them, keep it up Dr may Allah be with you. Never relent the good work you doing.

[@amatullahsaafir685]

Exactly!

[@fdjohan4448]

After watching br. Yasir lectures, I realize that KNOWLEDGE is POWER.

[@abdurrtai451]

I am very impressed with knowledgeable Shaikh. Yasir qadhi. Would like to do inshallah internship. with. In future. Please keep up good work of spreading lslam. In true meaning. Dr. Tai

[@wheelfan100]

ALSO FUCK TURKEY

[@b0ys0l09]

He is knowledgeable that he uncovered holes in the narrative that nobody wants to talk about.

[@Naseem2108]

Salam Dr Yasir, I happened to be a Chinese Muslim. At 16:06 of the video, the Chinese word corresponding to كاغد is "榖纸", it is pronounced as "Gu zhi" in modern Chinese, or kuk-tzi in the traditional Chinese. 榖(Gu) is a plant called "paper mulberry (or Broussonetia papyrifera)" , of which the skin is used to produce paper in ancient China. And 纸（zhi）simply means paper. Together Gu-zhi means the paper made from paper mulberry. In my opinion, the haraf （غ）is there to join up the two chinese word when they are pronounced together.

[@kashifhashmi5209]

Yep I can recognize by your surname(May Allah grant you Jannah).

[@Drigger95]

It must be crazy awesome going to this masjid everyday. Wish our masjid had these talks... :(

[@nadeemshaikh7077]

exactly!

[@user-nq6rq1eh1c]

exactly

[@melaniecoffin4852]

Insane watching this in 2021, and its so mind blowing and relevant STILL... yesterday it was paper, today it is cell phone and so on and so forth. May we become open minded, while still following along according to islamic guidance

[@safurasalam]

Wallahi this just proves what we all know to be true....the thing that holds us back most often as an ummah is our own selves.

[@nazrinhashim]

We, Muslims in Malaysia have been using the powerpoint slideshows during khutbah since last 5 years..

[@mashroorhasanbhuiyan]

MashaAllah

[@zafranhaikal3980]

Ana baru tulis. Rupanya Syah Nazrin sudah tulis lagi awal terus ana delete haha

[@abdulawal4683]

Although some people might be burning in jealousy, the light of God will be even brighter and more brilliant to guide those who have a mind to accept guidance. The lecture contains some truths that shall prevail.

[@aamantubillaahiwarasoolihi112]

In shaa ALLAAH.

[@m_sani]

Subhanallah this lecture is really inspiring and full of knowledge. In the central mosque of Universitas Indonesia, the oldest university in Indonesia located in its capitol, power point has been used since 2010 in Jum'ah Khutbah. Alhamdulillah we love it just like Dr. Yasir Qadhi said it's helpful

[@AkhyarKamili]

Wah masa? Baru tau...

[@khouloudmaani]

👍

[@ibrahimwasy3443]

"We discovered America" 😂😂 Sheikh Yasir Qadhi has a good sense of humour😂

[@ShalomYal]

what the hell was he talking about?

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

@@ShalomYal delusion

[@shumoon1]

Don't dis. There is evidence that Columbus' voyage to the New World was based on a route and travel strategy used by Muslim voyagers prior to 1492.

[@ImranHussain-mi2iv]

I listened to this lecture ten years ago, here i am again, what a great lecture

[@muslimenguiapar615]

America must be proud of this man. He is the greatest muslim scholar of modern time. And he is an american.

[@muslimenguiapar615]

Well, from the time of shahaba till today muslims differ on so many issues. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

[@saraqostahterra4548]

Ow so now he is american? But when a Muslim does something wrong he would be an immigrant, wouldnt he?

[@sami9810]

Why was printing press banned? What was the reason.. can anyone let me know.. Ohhh It is at 55:00

[@haven-of-bliss]

SubhanAllah, I'm learning so much through his lectures. This is an amazing feeling. 💗☀️💗

[@ShalomYal]

I love history - what an interesting analysis about the printing press.

[@yasminea7149]

I wish I had discovered this channel years ago!

[@jobaerahmed74]

Yeah I felt the same way. There is a whole seerah series of Prophet (saw) which is very good. I learned so many things from this series. Jazakallah Khairan.

[@comb528491]

There is a Masjid in San Antonio that uses Powerpoint.

[@JaefarSABNW]

Just one? I don't know of one in the Northwest that bans it, but some have been built in the past ten years that I haven't been to..

[@samsunnaher8799]

Shaykh, some Muslim brothers and sisters believe that face to face learning is more effective than visual learning. During Pandemic it is become more clear actually, who is learning Quran /Hadith on line , their understanding or practice in life is less than face to face. Same opinion many students and parents as well. But Alhamdulillah, because of technology we can listen your and many scholars lectures on line, many non Muslims also able to listen. Alhamdulillah, both way learning is beneficial. May Allah SWT use this technology to spread His Deen. Ameen

[@nadeemshaikh7077]

what he suggested was visual aid . There will be imam present physically explaining his points but with also visual projections which help in understanding the topic much better and faster.

[@amairakahn554]

Yasir qahdi is blessed by allah n i highly respect this shiek .. may allah put his enemies in his feet ameen ..

[@tauhida]

Masyallah. This is the first time I heard about the relation between rise and fall of Islam by paper and printing. Very interesting indeed. And to watch this through youtube is another example of embracing changes.

[@szahmad2416]

Indeed. Very much an eye-opener for me as well. We can almost pinpoint the moment the Ummah went into decline.

[@rovantara]

subhanallah.. salam from Indonesia, may Allah bless dear syaikh for your teachings.

[@garynorthtruro]

A most excellent and informative talk. I highly recommend it.

[@MrPegasusf007]

. Allah-u-Akbar; Allah-u-Akbar' thank you.

[@anabkeenadiid8279]

Are you a revert brother ? (I ask because the name isn't a traditional muslim name )

[@hubbellrowe9012]

This is a wonderful lecture. HOWEVER, the structure of the book, called a codex, was first described by the Roman poet Martial in the 1st century AD and had become the dominant means of recording literature in the Roman Empire in the 4th century. So Europeans had widely adopted the Codex for their record keeping 700 years before it's adoption by the Muslim world, who probably learned about the codex from the conquest of Byzantine/Eastern Roman land, which then was all of North Africa and the Lenient. See here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex They of course used vellum (treated leather) instead of paper. Another criticism is the fact that he described the pre-printing-press Europe as a land which was illiterate. Europe in 1400 more than likely had the same low literacy rate present in the Muslim world. The Renaissance had already been going on for a full century before the development of the printing press, with Dante completing his Divine Comedy in 1320, and writers such as Plutarch and Bracciolini similarly producing works in the 14th century, so it is not fair to call Europe a land without literature before the printing press. The printing press put the Renaissance into high gear, exponentially increasing its growth and spread, but it certainly did not build all of western literature out of thin air. It built off of a rich literary culture which was already present. Other than this, I have nothing but praise for this scholar. This is one of the most enlightening lectures I have seen in a while.

[@szahmad2416]

Thanks; I agree that the praise should be mixed. I'll add more to this: the Indians were already book-binding long before the Muslims started the process. Indeed, the process might have spread to the Muslims from India, just as the Hindu numerals did. There is, unfortunately, a Muslim-centric tunnel vision that Islamic scholars tend to engage in, and Sh. Yasir is not (yet) immune to it; may Allah guide him.

[@hubbellrowe9012]

@@szahmad2416 Interesting! It would be very cool to see where exactly the use of book binding / codexes originated. I thought it originate somewhere in the late Roman Empire, but it could easily have been a technology they in tern learned from another culture. I know that by the 5th century, just about everyone who was anyone in Europe and the Mediterranean area had ditched the scroll for the codex (book).

[@veli1495]

Mashallah powerpoint during a khutbah is a really nice idea...

[@ZahirulAlomShohan]

Very informative! Jazak'Allah Khair!

[@wasimcharity4all]

Amazing & informative talk by Dr YQ, good job!

[@UNIVERSALOSHXONA]

Jazakallah Khayr brother for exellent explanation!

[@louiekhari3200]

i guess im asking randomly but does anybody know of a way to log back into an Instagram account..? I stupidly lost the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can offer me.

[@mrafi2779]

Maasha allah , Great lecture. Real picture and honest one as i believe .

[@AnonymousPacifist]

Thanks, Yasir; truly a superman!

[@azo818184]

بارك الله فيك

[@AsifShaikh-vp1zy]

Mashallaha..Mashallaha...my heart is clapping for this thought..Great thought

[@dilut222]

Great talk and lesson.

[@azammahmood3951]

MashaAllah. Allah. Subhanahuatayla bless you brother Yasir Qadhi.

[@abuzuhm]

Very interesting lecture. Worth the price of admission for the trivia on the origin of the English word "ream."

[@shaziakhan9435]

What a well researched, informative, eye opening lecture, Dr Yasir Qadhi.

[@nadimmo123]

Subhaanallah! Akhi, you're a brilliant speaker, Masha Allah!

[@ruhaimahamed3705]

very informal lecture. We pray Allah to guide Dr yasir and us in Right path. الحمداللہ

[@freetheturtlesplease]

Pure awesomeness

[@mohamedbasha5763]

Thank you sheikh may Allah grant you his jannah

[@husnainnasim4393]

I agree with the point on having a powerpoint when a Khateeb is giving a Khutba. I was recently at a Khutba at University and we had a very learned Khateeb whose Khutba was so in-depth and substance loaded that I felt I should be taking notes. But since I thought it would be strange to do so, I refrained from bringing a notepad to write down some notes. The idea is a clever way in which we can engage people and create a culture of learning and academic scholarship.

[@nadirkhan8540]

I love you sheikh Yasir.

[@yogeshwartewari891]

very informative good job done we are wiser now than what we were good suggestion for the muslim and non muslim scholars

[@farukvahora1695]

mashaallah tabarkallahh i learn something inever knew.zazakallah shykh.may allah incrise you in knowladge.may allah give you and your familyall the goods of this world and all the goods of hearafter,

[@aishaseid2813]

Barakallah ya Akhi Atalallahu umrak

[@SaharaCaliSara]

I used to wonder why Egypt is emphasized by so many Muslims I know as "Om adunya" until this video. And, of course, I gained so much more new ilm. Jazakum Allah khair for posting this :)

[@eca3101]

Egypt is called on el Donya by all Egyptians, not just Muslims!

[@okyhaykal5624]

permission to share this lecture to my friends and schollar in my country. this is a perfect reminder

[@lukidwiputra4644]

Wong jowo mas ?

[@mnizam84]

excellent

[@fxeacademycorp.707]

May Allah bless u more, and give us more wisdom... its really good to analyze the past and see the mistakes from it.

[@ImtiajulAlam]

Informative!

[@sabaali9768]

Jazakallah khair

[@mowray]

Jazakallah... BTW I've been in one of those Powerpoint Khutbah in Malaysia

[@hasancoool]

Allahuakbar! What an extraordinary lecture!

[@Sweetlycheeboba]

Still relevant to this day subhanallah

[@abuyoutubebah2140]

Great!

[@arslibri9957]

As a book historian I agree wholeheartedly.

[@cmms1234]

"Quran was printed by non-muslims for non-muslims" very powerful n honest statement

[@nazimarohom5274]

Listening to this lecture in 2022!!!

[@mmn1691]

Using power point for Kuthba is a good idea. I am going to suggest it to the local Imam. They use cams and monitors to display the Imam lecturing during kuthba in other floors of the Masjid. So why not let the Imam to use a power point presentation. They are already using papers to write down information. Beside a Kuthba with a power point presentation can actually be used by people at later times for educational purpose.

[@kungfufreak360]

This is not a khutbah

[@aneesahussein1522]

Powepoint khudba? Is it a business meeting

[@cmms1234]

Thank you scholar for being honest b 180 degrees blunt

[@karlkoch9324]

Thanks a lot for the talk! Could you reference some sources, especially about the fatwah? That would be amazing!

[@m.-9615]

Subhan'Allah, I didn't know that "kaghad" was an Arabized Chinese word for paper. We use a very similar word in Tarifit, which is spoken in the north of Morocco, namely "kighed" and it means paper. (Some pronounce it as shighed.) I guess we took it from the Arabs of the midievel times.

[@raqib56]

@M...salaam, kaghd in arabic, but when in turko-farsi-Urdu became Kaaghaz, like ' Waraque' (saf'ha). And Book= sahifah/Mushaf in arabic, adopted by turko-farsi-Urdu. Word " paper " french/german = papier(e) came from ancient Greek made of cyperus Papyrus plant, material used for writing, drawing, copying , painting, used in Egypt & mediterranean cities long before chinese. Uthmanian Empire encouraged adoption & promotion of entire arabic letters ( alphabets) in ancient Turko-mongolian, Farsi, all central Asian, Eastern European /Balkans, Afghans, chinese (Kashgar) countries & states. The most recent invention among the Indo-Europeans off shoots of sanscrit, was a modern new language invented by Mighty Mughal army's (Lashkar of different ethnic soldiers ) early 17th century inside Mughal army's cantonement around Dehli/Meruth, it has entire arabic letters plus 5 new letters pronounced & applied direct from Sanscrit, word 'URDU ' is turkish, meaning Lashkar, Urdu inherited 4 vocabularies with Farsi, Turkish, Arabic & Sanscrit. Urdu represents entire "Tehzib " (civilization).

[@m.-9615]

@@raqib56 wa alaikumussalam. Thanks for your reply, it was an interesting read. I didn't know that Urdu was a product of the Mughal's army, I'll have to read up on some history. I don't know why, but I always thought that Urdu was a language that already existed and was just heavily influenced by Arabic and Persian. I guess we learn something new everyday :)

[@user-tg5cq4dc8m]

THE BEST DU'A TO THANK ALLAH One single Dua'a that is more rewarding that remembering Allah day and night combined by general Dua'a Please try to say this Dua'a once in the morning and once in the evening daily (The more you do, more reward) :) al-hamdu lillahi adada mã khalaq, All praise is for Allah as much as what He has created. wal-hamdu lillahi mil'a ma khalaq, All praise is for Allah as much as what can fill His creation. wal-hamdu lillahi 'adada ma fil-ardi wa-s-sama', All praise is for Allah as much as what is in the earth and the sky. a-amdu ,'mã fil-ardi wa-s-samā All praise is for Allah as much as what can fill up the earth and the sky wal-hamdu lillahi adada ma ahsa kitäbuh, All praise is for Allah as much as what His Book has recorded. wal-hamdu Iili ‚ahsa kitabuh All praise is for Allah as much as what fills His Book. wal-hamdu lillähi 'adada kulli shay', All praise is for Allah as much as everything. wal-hamdu lillahi mil'a kulli shay'. All praise is for Allah as much as what fills everything (Source: Ahmad: 22198 and Ibn Hibaan: 830)

[@danmafy2725]

hearts was a place where Qur'an kept

[@lovedeadthed92]

this is a opinion (,somewhat valid) saying the press is main reason for political Islam's fall it is shaped by modern western thinking even though the Alem did say there only some truth in it ,the point is kufur or not development should be acknowledge understood, , accepted and modified if needed to be,totally agree

[@ThePeacefullOasis]

Here in Eindhoven I saw Turkish mosques' Imam to use powerpoint in khutbah.. .

[@itsincredible6407]

We Muslims want and need scientific progress today. We're sick and tired of hearing these stories of our "past glories" while we're learning virtually everything from non-Muslims today. Why are Lithuanians, Latvians, the Finnish and the Swedish, who never had a Medieval "golden age" better than any Muslim country in science and technology? We don't need to hear fairy tales. We need to solutions to today's problems.

[@mahad2K]

MashaAllah . I want to meet this man

[@techknowsimply]

Yeah met him several times..

[@echo0204]

39:46 revelation!!!

[@razzle82]

I like the idea of using powerpoint, im going to suggest that to the masjid i go to inshallah

[@comb528491]

There's a San Antonia Masjid that does it

[@wabdih]

These are the types of talks that young people such as I need. I've been pondering a lot lately about similar ideas.

[@wabdih]

@amin esmail Totally forgot about this comment. I left Islam a few years ago but I enjoyed his talks

[@Revival321]

@@wabdih Why did you leave Islam?

[@dindenwaliyyu2127]

D+ Doctor.

[@michaelfender2923]

The Scholars that banned Printing presses pretty much are sounding like Salafist.

[@nabilasheherin2511]

Heartbroken 💔

[@mensch1066]

Tang Dynasty, not Han Dynasty fought against the Abbasids. The Han disappeared hundreds of years before the time of the Prophet.

[@fathimashanaz4412]

Assalamu alaikkum Jazakallah khair Sheikh

[@laser7861]

ASA, First of all jazak Allah for an informative talk. Regarding powerpoint during khutbah, besides religious arguments which I will leave to the scholars to debate, my question is why is it so important? What are we missing by not doing that? Thank you.

[@winstonbachan105]

The Greatest Period Known To The World Was The Vedic Periods Of Your Ancestor Roots! When Islam Started, Your Ancestor Was. Already Building Cities! Facts!

[@Yatagurusu]

While you were talking I was thinking of how can Muslims imvent or implement better the "next printing press so to speak" when I didn't even stop to consider that we had barely just implemented microphones in Khutbas

[@asadmomin6178]

This is the age of A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) Conquer it!!!

[@haneenwadi7861]

"نصر الله قريب."

[@bakabillie]

Very nice and informative lecture brother. Can you please mention the references of your narrated history please?

[@loneseraj6727]

I love you

[@BoqPrecision]

12:12 it was not the Han dynasty, but rather the "Tang dynasty"

[@abcd9283]

yes

[@jimmyctg9489]

Alhamdulillah, change is already happened in some of the mosque in Bangladesh where they use power point in khutba

[@jobaerahmed74]

Seriously!? Can you please give me some names of masjids? You know the real irony is in many parts of BD khutbas are still given in arabic regardless of whether people getting it or not.

[@mobyinayet5383]

Excellent idea about power points! Why not? Only problem is that there is a class of people who would come running at you shouting 'Biddah, Biddah !! '

[@mmustafabaig1558]

Power point Khutba is already implemented by Malaysian government in most of the masajid in Malaysia.

[@mobyinayet5383]

The fear of the scholars losing their position because of wide decimation of knowledge seems a better reason than refusing to accept a technology just because it was foreign. Did they not accept Chinese technology to produce paper for the sake of knowledge?

[@comb528491]

Both seem plausible, and societal attitudes change in a span of 500 years

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

Yeah but the technology of Chinese paper did technically reduce scholarly power except that those Scholars were the first three golden Generations of Islam and they wanted to spread it while the later generations were in fear of losing their power. The first Generations wanted Islam and the last generation wanted power which was their biggest difference

[@abuladula]

I've always wondered why we don't use technology in Masjids for Khutbah along with the classical method of delivering it. Further, it's true there is No Muslim TV channel which educate or does or delivers what Islam entails I.e. knowledge, freedom of thought, educate etc etc. They are either focused heavily on "religious" matters or purport "progressive", nothing wholesome nor is it creatively delivered that the masses can understand or segments which highly educated people can appreciate.

[@hafsakhan2226]

it seems your duaa has been answered... Imran Khan , Erdoğan, and Mahatir have decided to open a muslim channel to educate people about muslim history and islam !

[@szahmad2416]

@@hafsakhan2226 can you please provide more details? Would love to know more about this.

[@elclassico8292]

Salamun alykum, can ya plz do a video on the sanaa quran manuscript .jzakallah

[@techknowsimply]

Great information Yasir. So what do we now?

[@asadmomin6178]

This is the age of A.I. (Artificial intelligence) Try to conquer it!!!

[@a5amr2]

what i don't understand is how did they pass the fatwah that it was actually haram? on what basis? Surely technology and information was used by muslims even in the time of the prophet pbuh from the non muslims. Bit baffled that the fatwa was passed.

[@MT-yx4ts]

technology was not known by people then it was very undeveloped. and out of fear of people becoming scholars and believing they have power the mufti banned it. but I understand how it's baffling

[@King-yr3ut]

a5amr2 that’s ignorance as Muslim I have never been told that’s technology is evil.

[@waktokong9288]

I have a printing press in my house.. both laser and inkjet.. unfortunately its used for printing kpop and cooking recipe.. i guess that wont eleviate spiritually..

[@aucourant9998]

What's so disturbing about this video is that the speaker's emotional love for Islam get's in the way of truth. Islam always has to be wonderful and everyone else stupid. If Islamic knowledge is surpassed it is because of some other reason over which Muslims had no control. This is the same mind-set Muslims have today. Take his statement that Europeans made better paper because they had lots of rivers and there wasn't many rivers in Arabia. For over three hundred years the Islamic Empire controlled vast regions of the world abounding in rivers from India, to Turkey, to Sicily to Andalusia itself .

[@iqbalsyed7701]

Sheikh Pls share the Muslim history of spain

[@echo0204]

41:05 even more revelation. now we know why..

[@sami9810]

Tq

[@fmnishad1]

Seerah please.can't wait

[@alomairabdulla]

السلام عليكم و رحمه الله can some one please do an Arabic translation to this video ? sad to know such a small thing can have such a major impact on the whole Muslim Ummah !

[@786humaira1]

" SUCH a small thing" , No it is a big thing. Arrogance of thinking ourselves to be best and no need for improvement ,is the most and major reason for our decline then and now. Arrogance of the shaitan, made him be thrown out of favor by Allah (s.w.t)..

[@mjuddin9507]

Assalamu Dr qahi have you did the battle of Karbala by Mohammed Ali

[@el-Cu9432]

Paper decomposes as well. The rate of decomposition will depend on paper quality and the environmental conditions under which the paper is stored. High quality paper stored in environmentally controlled conditions can last for centuries. Cheap paper exposed to the ebbs and tides of the environment will decompose very quickly.

[@greencoolmoss]

Ibn khaldun: the first sociologist ever Wow