The rise of 'chemsex' on London's gay scene - BBC News

[@Kubulek17]

The gay community is plagued with hyper sexuality at a young age. It’s so difficult to form a relationship with a man without somebody wanting to use you.

[@dawnjackson6299]

My youngest son who is 18 is a gay man he has never had a relationship other than something short-lived once I so worried about this fact I'm hoping that he can meet a nice young man with whom he can have a beautiful intimate relationship with I'm starting to wonder if that is even possible in today's society

[@turtlegeneral]

@@dawnjackson6299 aw😢 the world would be a wonderful place with more mums like you

[@dawnjackson6299]

aww thanks

[@aerialexplorer772]

@@dawnjackson6299 Hi Dawn, I'm a middle-aged gay man. Does your son want a relationship? If so then great. But not all guys do, gay or straight. And at the age of 18 he is very young, and what he wants now might completely change as he gets older. The most important thing is that he is given the space to do what he feels is right for him. I would also encourage him to have safe sex always. Remember also that unlike in a heterosexual relationship, there is no need to share a bond with your partner in order to support the raising of a child. Although gay men can and do have biological children through the use of surrogates.

[@dawnjackson6299]

@@aerialexplorer772 you are right what he wants will change as he matures and progresses through life I just want happiness for him

[@sifridbassoon]

these young guys didn't go through the slaughter of the 80s and 90s. They have no idea what it's like to organize their lives around trips to hospitals to visit their skeletal friends who are dying. I'm not judging anyone, but it's hard for me to feel very much sympathy.

[@Selur91]

I agree with you, this kind of reckless behaviour is not only dangerous but also an insult to the memory of those that lost their life in the HIV epidemic. And it's even worst because back then no one was really informed, but today they're aware of what dangers they're getting themselves into.

[@ndnaf3705]

sifridbassoon I agree as well. I was there in early 80s to see the epidemic too. It wasn't pretty. Nobody knew shit about it but millions died from it. But I feel like these young guys are choosing to forget how much risk and harm they're doing. It feels like a slap in the face.

[@adeel-eh7xq]

I don't get it? Was there less help for people with Hiv in the 80/90s?

[@emmanuelledorion2550]

It took a few years before people knew that HIV was even a thing, years during which it was spread around, and afterwards not only was it taboo but there was no efficient medicine for years, no widespread effort to get people to use protection for years, plus a general message of "you sinned you brought it on yourself" delivered to gay victims by authorities and media

[@Bimtavdesign]

Hiv patients don't die anymore like in the 80s and 90..... the treatment drugs available now can make the virus undetectable. This doesn't excuse the rise in contagion but it means that the social cost of being positive has changed A LOT .

[@createseventyeight3082]

Straight men can be just as reluctant to use condoms. The risk is just not as high. Women have the added concern of pregnancy, hence adding a woman to the sexual equation probably increases the use of condoms amongst straight couples. Women also tend to be more health conscious. Of course I am totally generalising here.

[@LegendoftheGalacticHero]

@Ossarian A lot of women just think that thtey have to put up with a partner that doesn't want to use a condom. And there is also a lot of misinformation around about ways to avoid to get pregnant that people mix up with STD prevention. I think though the deterrant of possible pregnancy keeps things with hetero sex, but yeah, it is an issue there too.

[@UnknownUser-by4le]

How about we just have one partners get tested before we have sex and don’t cheat Then you don’t need condoms Just a thought One nighters are immoral and degrading

[@----f]

@@UnknownUser-by4le yeah hook up culture and casual sex is deteriorating society

[@TallulahGuard]

when that guy was like 'stop telling people to use condoms, just find an effective way to prevent HIV' BUT CONDOMS ARE THE CHEAP EASY SIMPLE EXISTING WAY TO PREVENT IT AAAAAAAAAH

[@dc3174]

Truvada prevents transmission too

[@waqasiqbal265]

Avoiding non marital sex is cheap and effective way to prevent HIV

[@waqasiqbal265]

@@stephaniecalderon65 I am talking about normal marriages, not gay marriages. What we want is not and shouldn't be approachable, our desires are unlimited and false sometimes and many times harmful to us. So just follow Islam

[@acgraphics1139]

@@waqasiqbal265 its not a way to prevent hiv

[@waqasiqbal265]

@@acgraphics1139 okay??

[@claudermiller]

My lover of 26 years started doing that. After we broke up he got arrested for meth, lost his counseling licence and finally committed suicide last year. Shit sucks.

[@jeremyn2008]

So sorry

[@pleaseyourselfsir]

@claudermiller .... bloody hell man , I am sorry you had to go through that . 😞

[@edwinamcmanus5633]

I am sorry Claude for your loss. Doing drugs for whatever purpose only leads to bad things. Hope you are coping xx

[@donnaroberts4513]

When you don't follow the way of the Lord you will suffer the consequences.

[@fabiosantos7763]

Sorry for that! Hope you are ok

[@rr7firefly]

One of my co-workers in an architecture office went off the rails living this highly addictive lifestyle (crystal meth and crazy sex). He isn't alive anymore. A catastrophic end. In his case he was an "aging" gay man in his mid 50s, no longer desirable to other gay men who prefer much younger guys.

[@ChromaticaCitizen]

that’s crazy but i don’t feel bad. sorry to sound sour but if you play with fire, you’re gonna get burned. this simulation is initiating Natural Selection.

[@camerontaylor7471]

There’s a 1,000 ways to die in “the system” ... pick your poison! Just a matter of time really...🕋🌴🌙

[@mk202]

Same here...exactly. He was dead in 4 years.

[@valdomero738]

I'm very happy to hear that. Nothing of value was lost, society won.

[@fabiosantos7763]

So sorry for that!

[@Baoaa123]

I feel so bad for these people - they think sober sex doesn't match sex when you're high. They've clearly never really enjoyed any sex they've had

[@daniuacm]

Giacomo it physiologically doesn't. Drugs induce the liberation of "feel-good" hormones and reduce your self consciousness so you just feel good and think of nothing else.

[@Baoaa123]

Daniel yes but that isn't going to induce intimacy and romantic connection - it's not the same

[@tetflaminiano1674]

meth literally increases your dopamine units 5x higher, and that is a conservative estimate. so it’s not that they’ve never had good sex, sober; it’s that sex becomes infinitely more pleasurable on meth and ecstasy

[@joesatana]

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[@keysersoze4322]

Exactly what I was thinking. They need love.

[@amfortas1978]

"It should be a sign that you should stop when you find you are HIV+" Clearly that is not the case. So many gay men I know become totally carefree after turned HIV+.

[@milekrizman]

So, they are spreading the epidemic? Isn't that murder?

[@tomato2088]

@@milekrizman Treatment and drugs make it undetectable and not transmittable for people who are hiv+, there's also prep for when you're hiv- which makes it almost impossible for you to be infected. It's only murder if their partner lies about treatment, or removes the condom without consent and they're not on prep.

[@faatoiaboy987]

Like actor Rock Hudson and that young man he was with before he was diagnosed of HIV positive. The young dude filed a lawsuit after he was found HIV positive saying Rock Hudson knew he was having AIDS but still had sex with him..

[@echospaw899]

It's the 'bug chasers' that make no sense to me at all. I've been HIV+ for 34 years now. The majority of those 34 yrs had been a nightmare to me. Now that was not easy to go through. I'm grateful I didn't fall into these chem-sex parties where nothing is sacred anymore. Humans are freaking weird animals.

[@ArranVid]

@@tomato2088 So what? People with HIV should try and be more sensible and cautious about their sex lives and they have to chill out...they have a potentially dangerous virus within them. I have Herpes, and that made me more cautious and careful about who I have sex with and how I have sex.

[@spikefivefivefive]

You play with fire, you get burned.

[@keysersoze4322]

Play with fire, you get bummed.

[@marlonscott1014]

100%

[@ChildoftheSpirit]

spikefivefivefive confess Jesus pray repent be born again testimonials my playlist

[@benlee6527]

Fuck you using religion to hide behind a hateful evil heart. Let me tell you this being gay is something you’re born with. religion is taught. being gay is in nature religion isn’t, being gay isn’t a choice, religion is. being gay is a reality, religion is a theory against a billion other theories. there’s 100 percent proof gay people exist. there’s 0.0 proof god exists. being the definition of hateful then saying you’re not hateful because you can use a book or should I a say a “fairy tale” to be deluded and hate then you need consequences no matter what job you’re in love is an emotion, love will win. and love will make the world a better place. Gay is love and has only creates more love your religion has caused torture, death of billions , wars, hate, suicide, self doubt and fea

[@BroadConcept]

I don't think that the majority of this irresponsible behavior is because gay men are victims of society; in fact I think it stems from a lack of attention to consequences. They even mentioned how well informed gay men are about HIV prevention, so at some point you have to play up personal responsibility.

[@kingdabon4631]

Fernando Varela thats why never combine drugs and have sex at the same time. if your high in drugs you dont care about the reality in life.

[@areeoree3059]

Fernando Varela hmm I see your point and they do need to take personal responsibility, but at the same time society does play a role. Just like anything else being a minority, being a woman or man, being rich or poor effects how a person walks through the world. Like that guy that only used condoms 50% of the time is an idiot who playing with fire. But at the same time if you listen to what he’s really saying you’ll start to get why people are the way they are. Underneath all the BS he was spouting was a fear of being judged by not only straight people but also by his partners.

[@informedconsumer5293]

Hormonal imbalance

[@ixlnxs]

Gay men get hiv for the same reason teenage girls get pregnant and others start smoking. It's not for want of information.

[@brentduanefoster]

Fernando Varela You are absolutely correct. God forbid we are hit with ANOTHER disease that takes people in our community out. We cannot sit and act like we didn't see it coming, because much of our behavior basically opened the door for it.

[@Derrako]

I'm _far_ too old for philandering like this! I wouldn't last half an hour in orgies that go on for days, I'd rather have a cup of cocoa and go to bed, and where I live, that's about as steamy as it gets...

[@lifeonwheels5756]

Haha I hear ya😂

[@an_idiot4777]

Something I feel a bit with the LGBT+ community is that after all the suppression, we haven't known what to do with ourselves. From going to hiding our sexuality to suddenly having so much freedom links to hedonistic values. We still crave adventure, but we don't fully know how to achieve it. I hope we can expres ourselves through other means, not just through cramming ourselves with drugs. We need to make sure more people can access PREP and condoms, and that there is nothing shameful about being single, or wanting deeper relationships.

[@adonaiyah2196]

Yea its very excessive

[@losrevolucionarios8858]

Stop being gay and your problems fo away

[@jhunifiedwithlove9750]

Prevention is better than cure... Surround yourself with good people... Be responsible... think first before it’s too late...

[@fungi42o0]

bingo

[@stephaniecalderon65]

Although I completely agree condom's can be a bit of a passion killer.but I would imagine genital herpes,genital wart's,gonorrhea, Chlamydia,and many other sexually transmitted infections would definitely kill the passion.🤢

[@daynasafranek7807]

I lost my good friend to a heart attack after an overdose. He had been doing it off and on since the 90’s. A lot of my friends did back then. Poppers, meth… all of that. I thought all of us had been through enough with addiction by our mid 40’s to not still be doing that and he was a health nut according to my friend. I miss him very much and wish he could still be here with us.

[@enriquemoon]

I have enough problems with alcohol; i can't imagine these drugs.

[@fquint6468]

This is an incredibly scary lifestyle.

[@maisis.2139]

So sad to see the younger generation wasting life on nonsense..lose souls society

[@DD-ih7wn]

You don’t know what gay men have to deal with growing up, have to come to terms with in life. Enough with the hate. Spread LOVE. Be kind.

[@echospaw899]

Yeah, but, we're supposed to be the most intelligent creature on the planet. Yet, so many d*mbasses still elect to throw away all that matters for a few hours thrill. None of us grew up without experiencing the direct hatred from others. That doesn't make sense to do these kinds of drugs for a thrill later in life. That was kind of a bullshit comment. Just my opinion, as well.

[@enterthepoke6784]

This is why I'm a virgin at 34

[@shaunm1983]

Really?

[@Linkolite]

Holy fuck

[@dollyri1995]

King George I’m prouda you

[@ex90steen78]

Youre missing out thu

[@SNNKDKXSLSL]

M virgin at 30

[@baharsafari.4455]

And I'm still chocked of the beautiful Radiohead song called Everything in its right place, in the background. AMAZING HUGE RADIOHEAD FAN HERE!

[@ttban1988]

I’m so glad I fall in love with my boyfriend 9 years ago at college! I wouldn’t been able to survive in that scene

[@BBWahoo]

Omg me either

[@susansaxon4780]

These men need to grow up and take responsibility for themselves and their health...

[@scouser2010ify]

Iv been to after parties were it turned into parties where there’s naked men and drugs and I just had to leave it’s really not my scene

[@haithemdhan2846]

that guy from the lab basically explained it all,these poor guys are victims of unacceptable communities,victims of unconditional love deprivation from their families,victims of internalized homophobia and self hatred

[@bodybuildingbooks]

suchdoge lol

[@marcusnl66]

suchdoge agree with you!

[@marykimani1590]

Lol I believe that majority of people use condoms to avoid pregnancy and people rarely think about risks like diseases because most of the times the risk might not be immediate. I don't believe it's a straight or gay issue, for women they have issues like pregnancy to deal with and you don't want to be pregnant especially with a stranger's baby. The problem is that gays face more risk to contract HIV but people rarely think of that

[@naelyneurkopfen9741]

haithem dhan they're only victims of their own perversion.

[@ryanchow8679]

haithem dhan they are just horny gays.

[@nickatnights]

I thought chemsex was when Mark fiddled with me in a Chemistry lesson in Year 11.

[@powerparade7262]

nickatnights lmfaoooo

[@nonofyabidnez5737]

Lucky you!

[@LilTiggsz]

😂😂😂

[@malikrahman8649]

😂👌

[@rpprevost]

I'm sorry, but this is not entirely true. The drugs aren't the culprit. It is the desire to perform the act. The drugs enhance the experience of the sexual act that you already set out to have, drugs or not.

[@andreimezjoukhin5414]

Yes, true it's designed for women not for men, prolonged use preferences should be considered transformation mentality and sexual functionality of you organs, as low dose give you desired effects and bunch of thought, depending on amount consumption, could be holistic, visionary deformations, temp blinds, abilities to see fare, or close, that's depending on mixed traffic with other sopplimental medicine! Plus, speach, and bullying errands, discovery speach reconfigure speeding, or none stopping talking, and on and on and on, list can be long. Addiction fast, based on desire from 3 to 24 houres, discharge recovery without any problems! 😊 Just that I'm come a cross on internet, information around. 😊

[@markmorales476]

"Much more deep rooted issues" is the key. Learning to love ourselves is where we gays need to move to.

[@lukestur]

I was reading about the AIDS crisis of NY’s gay scene in the 80s, and when they realized it was spread through sexual fluids and that condoms and other measures could prevent its spread, those spreading the news emphasized that you have to care about your partner. It has to be a community effort. Everyone looking out for one another. It sounds like in London’s gay scene, and perhaps more globally, thinking is extremely individualistic-a huge pitfall of the West. People who don’t care about themselves in this sort of culture are evidently a huge risk. Pretty much 100% of gay ppl struggle with self-hatred, at least at some point. For those who hate themselves, trying to get them to use protection for their own good won’t work, because the real problem is the self-hatred, not the carelessness itself (which is the by-product). I wouldn’t advocate shaming them and saying “don’t you care about other ppl????” Because that might just make them hate themselves more and care less, honestly. Just promote love for your brothers and lovers.

[@PercyLeMat]

They could've stuck this segment in a 90s cyberpunk movie and it wouldn't have felt out of place. Bonus points if you watched it on your phone.

[@warrenmoore4743]

Cluster B personalities have had a monopoly on the gay scene for years. Men are getting sick of this discourse.

[@tokeno.4968]

it took 3 std scares for me to really sit tf down, slap myself in the face and reflect on my life choices. STD's are not worth it. my self-esteem immediately dropped and I felt tainted when I contracted something (thankfully curable). you also feel betrayed, yet at your own fault. for me at least. my friend is too afraid to get tested yet continues to have sex with multiple people, and Im just so disappointed in him. I never pressure him, I just ask if he's gone and really want him to be okay before its too late.

[@paperchain1239]

Let's be honest, there are a lot of lonely people out there and many who may not enjoy any sexual contact again in their lives. This is about greed. As for not using a condom wholly irresponsible. And where has it(chemsex) got anyone?

[@ninothemage6952]

This is so sad. Gay guys need to delete Grindr and other dating apps. It’s made me feel a lot happier and satisfied with myself. Grindr is a horrible and scary place. London has an amazing gay bar scene in soho though and going to them and actually speaking to physical people and having fun at a bar without specifically meeting each other for a bang first has made me less likely to have unprotected sex or use chems. In fact I don’t do it anymore. Delete Grindr chaps!

[@zeddeka]

Quentin Crisp was a million times right when he said "Sex is the last refuge of the miserable". So many of the people involved here are using sex as a palliative for unhappiness in their lives. "Fuck the pain away" as Peaches said.

[@fuldk]

The guy says he is using condom 70% of the time...I don't believe that for meth heads. I have seen them first hand. He still can't be honest.

[@RicTic66]

I work in the drug rehabilitation field and have lately come across a lot of really young guys who are 'slamming' (I.V use) methadrone and 'Tina' ( meth amphet) Several of these guys were Brazilian really good looking lads but all had Hep C V HIV or both. They tell me they still practice sex without a condom and state there are those who are willing to take the risk because these 18 to 20 year olds are really hot. I learnt the jargon 'slamming' 'Tina' ect from the lads who are for the most part kind intelligent people it really concerns me men are putting their's and others lives at risk. I fear another huge rise in STDs within the male gay community, ok HIV is now treatable but combo therapy is awful and hardly worth the risk of having unsafe chemical induced sex.

[@hatoftricks7132]

People just ruin everything.

[@joserodriguez-go3ti]

am i the only one who thinks that if u have HIV and have unprotected sex u are not only selfish but a terrible human being?

[@Sar_Sar1]

It’s a selfish lifestyle in my opinion they wanna have all this sex and not protect themselves or others it’s sad !

[@ABirdOnTheMoon]

In the UK, it’s not the lack of acceptance, but the fact that these men know NHS will support them, which is associated with self distractive behavior. They ,however, shouldn’t play it risky. Lots of HIV positive people seem to behave irresponsible and those clean, think the presence of drug, means they can not care! It’s a depressing fact that makes you wonder why people are self destructive?! At least the majority of young population! Whenever HIV is the topic in journal club, I know we will have a sad day! Unlike other diseases, HIV is more of a disease of choice; similar to STD or Hepatitis. It’s a crisis! Group unprotected sex is a risky behavior but something people will do ofter in the gay community. It’s an endemic and the way people behave about it makes me question if there is an endemic psychological problem or if the gay community isn’t suitable for nurturing its members. It seems a toxic sitting of its own, if that happens to be the sitting. The huge question is why gays have this problem? What started it? How can it be contained?! What’s the percentage of gays that participate in this?

[@ABirdOnTheMoon]

Thank you for sharing that! It is something I heard of but never understood or learnt about. I am glad you shared it today! :)

[@michaelmills4924]

"Higher rates of family rejection were significantly associated with poorer health outcomes. On the basis of odds ratios, lesbian, gay, and bisexual young adults who reported higher levels of family rejection during adolescence were 8.4 times more likely to report having attempted suicide, 5.9 times more likely to report high levels of depression, 3.4 times more likely to use illegal drugs, and 3.4 times more likely to report having engaged in unprotected sexual intercourse compared with peers from families that reported no or low levels of family rejection." www.progettorlando.unina.it/public/Family%20rejection%20prediction.pdf

[@ixlnxs]

The majority of young people are NOT self-destructing. Not the gay ones, and not the straight ones. And your first sentence could be used about smokers as well. Smokers only start smoking because the NHS will bail 'em out! Bollocks. If that is your best argument against socialized health care you can stick it.

[@DLB22222]

Nerdy Snailie

[@jeonlyxoxo]

No. Nobody thinks, oh tonight I want to have some fun and I want to catch HIV.

[@rockermerthsm]

I like men since age 5 but I dont wanna live like this, ughhh

[@lucassinclair2392]

InfiniteBeach34 then don’t. It’s not a mandatory lifestyle. There are perfectly professional, straight-laced guys out there. Being picky is the key!

[@marcelinolopez597]

Same here

[@heposlis2409]

Since age 5 ?

[@zeddeka]

The vast majority of gay people don't go anywhere near the chem sex scene. The men who do have often had fsirly traumatic lives. Similar to straight people who end up being highly promiscuous and using drugs - it's almost always a way to deal with trauma that they've had at some point in their lives

[@jiggyfun807]

Really "Kiran" was the best name to replace his real name

[@adeel-eh7xq]

They probably wanted to give him a South East Asian sounding name. Not a great choice but I guess it's relevant.

[@drdickvagesq]

I immediately had to assume it's my coworker, Kiran.

[@abhijeitb7631]

His real name itself may be Kiran, and they showed like a metaphor. He was Indian by the looks of it!

[@adeel-eh7xq]

That's what I meant, he was Indian so they gave him an Indian name but that wasn't his real name because he wanted to keep his identity hidden.

[@pauldunneska]

adeel1650 When he first said Kiran, me being Irish spelt it in my mind as the Irish Gaelic name Ciarán which is pronounced the exact same way as Kiran.

[@caitb7089]

Me, a boring lesbian, sitting in bed, petting my dog: hot damn.

[@Sawrattan]

I'm a boring gay man - sadly our lifestyle isn't glamorised as much on the gay scene

[@aslscott78]

Cait B would u be a surrogate for me and my husband? We live in Burbank California

[@sixteenstringjack]

lol :-)

[@MT-mx7um]

So really we want to have our cake and eat it too, we want the fun but not the responsibility

[@benlee6527]

Fuck you using religion to hide behind a hateful evil heart. Let me tell you this being gay is something you’re born with. religion is taught. being gay is in nature religion isn’t, being gay isn’t a choice, religion is. being gay is a reality, religion is a theory against a billion other theories. there’s 100 percent proof gay people exist. there’s 0.0 proof god exists. being the definition of hateful then saying you’re not hateful because you can use a book or should I a say a “fairy tale” to be deluded and hate then you need consequences no matter what job you’re in love is an emotion, love will win. and love will make the world a better place. Gay is love and has only creates more love your religion has caused torture, death of billions , wars, hate, suicide, self doubt and fea

[@sunset2.00]

Kids Never use drugs.U will,I mean u will get hooked n do things u will regret A LOT. Like my boy kiran over here.

[@fkoff6301]

Al-Ikram Chowdory Can I ask if you Arab or Pakistani???

[@magnumpratchett123]

So sad, seems like lost souls to me.

[@thefifthstage369]

They are :(

[@jaimegermanotta8831]

I am. .

[@Jonny-yh2nl]

And now everyone seems to be on prep and infection rates are dropping so rapidly that we are on verge of being able to end hiv transmission. Truvada honestly seems like a miracle compared to the messaging over hiv for most of the last 40 years.

[@pamcatap2214]

Dunno what to say. But I am happy that I have my decency. And I am happy loving someone who loves me back genuinely for 9 years and counting.

[@donnaroberts4513]

Hope you are not gay. Hope you are with a female to live a happier life.

[@lukepurchon1853]

Can’t believe how much has changed with HIV within 4 years it’s fantastic

[@thatonecatlady]

so once he was diagnosed HIV+, he basically said "ok, fuck everyone else's health too I guess"? disgusting

[@jmudikun]

Group sex parties that last for days at a time? 😂 Wtf is wrong with these people?

[@hughlingard]

I'm talking about Tina, and I don't mean Miss Turner.

[@fannycraddock99]

My dear friend died in Feb 2015 from an accidental overdose of crystal meth. He was handsome, very clever but also extremely stupid! I miss him. RIP Joanie.

[@LiveTilliDie]

4:50 Shame from society creates low self-esteem in gays, which can lead to drug use and addiction. Love yourselves people. Find loving kindness, and mindfulness meditation. It has helped me immensely. See a psychologist even.

[@chairmankim9628]

That's total bullshit.

[@Audacious_Q5321]

Thanx BBC News. This is great help, information worth spreading 😘

[@ajones23809]

And that was The same speach I heard so many years ago and I can't believe I'm hearing it again and I'm 40 this year.Meaning the Doctor.

[@mauriciocordoba952]

I think that as a society we don't teach other to properly deal with things like rejection or self hate. The guy's reaction to the breakup was going to a chemsex party. In my opinion it was an act of self destruction due to all the negative emotions that arose from the breakup. I think the problem really goes beyond sex+drugs. We are told since a very young age that looks and relationships and money are the goals in life. But they don't teach that not looking like a model, being alone, and struggling with money is also an inevitable part of life and that we must deal with the emotions that arise from these in a healthy way.

[@wedotalkaboutwhatarmystand4796]

Im sorry.. But his answer to why he didnt stop when he got hepatitis and HIV sounds like excuses and drug blaming. I understand it couldnt be as easy (probably addictive affect).. But, its just sounds off currently. I hope they got better on it.

[@jamesgardner5149]

A note on PrEP. Recently there have been cases (I believe only 2) where people using PrEP consistently still contracted HIV. Don't get me wrong, if you are at high risk of contracting HIV use PrEP, but not as your only precaution.

[@stevemoorby9068]

After a lifetime of judgment I thought that maybe modern tolerance to being gay was a sign that people in general were more tolerant and understanding. Reading these comments I realise I'm wrong, so many people with prejudged answers to the problem and a willingness to damn others.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

There is tolerance of being gay. But this type of lifestyle should be condemned. Homosexuals should be encouraged to live by the same morals as ordinary decent people.

[@ryotaochi7903]

Some people are used to having sex just casually like greeting each other. That’s shallow, reckless and lack of self-esteem. They follow sex drive, but doesn’t lead to someone who shows genuine love. Everyone needs a good role model to feel connected, not to feel isolated. I hope there are more gay men who could do something for young men. Is there any good way to pull young people out of hook up app and do something else together?

[@josephrocha142]

Sex is temporary. Sometimes the act is longer than others. Why would anyone jeopardize their health for that? Without health you have nothing.

[@slamee100]

The most important thing for all of us and our loved ones to do BEFORE we leave this temporary world is to be spiritually prepared for our ETERNAL life by admitting and repenting of our sins and believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the Bible and being spiritually born again by honestly accepting Jesus Christ, God on earth, as our Savior by believing that He was born one of us His own creation to die and resurrect from the dead to pay for our sins for us so that our sins will not condemn us at the final judgment, to reconcile us sinners with God to give us eternal life with Him. THE GOSPEL (THE GOOD NEWS) OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR Jesus Christ came down here from heaven, God on earth, to be born one of His own creation and He dwelt among us for over three decades and He taught us about God and His eternal heavenly kingdom and how to live righteously and He lived a perfect sinless life. Then He gave His sinless life to all people from all nations to pay for our sins for us, by dying on the cross and resurrecting from the dead three days later, to pay for our sins for us to reconcile us sinners with God to give us eternal life with Him, and after He resurrected from the dead, He lived on earth for forty more days, speaking to many people, then He ascended back up into heaven and He is coming back again at the end of this world to set up His eternal heavenly kingdom and all people will see Him and have our sins judged by Him. Repent of sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior TODAY, so that your sins will NOT condemn you at the final judgment.

[@ErikaHernandez-bz5pf]

It's a horrible life style if your a young person please baby stay away from drugs it will destroy your life God bless every soul going through it . Unfortunately I've been using meth for 3 years in and out 😭😭😭

[@bobsmith5441]

How are you doing Erika? Hope you found some peace..

[@justinwatson4792]

these are interesting programmes but anything gay always seem to assume gay people always live in Cities and towns and just go on the scene. I'm a farmer all my life and don't like gay scene cities and the like. It seem unfair.

[@mauriciocordoba952]

"1 in 8 gay men in London are HIV positive" That is incredibly high. I hope the rate is lower now.

[@oliveroconnor5983]

Fellas, is it gay to do drugs?

[@AtomekKotalke]

Yes it is.

[@Athompthomp]

having sex is one of your life's aspects and sometimes it affects you the biggest part of your life no matter what sexual orientation you fall into. Enjoy it the best, and the safest way you can, but don't put yourself and others in danger. it often makes you lose control on yourself. remember, when there is a pleasure there are always side effects that follows if you're too much craving it. besides that, I don't sometimes appreciate the way BBC brings information on things with high risks. while it's good to let people know what really is going on with every detail, but it could work as a source of information to those who actually want to try it, especially teenagers.

[@moleymonkey1050]

People need to get a bloody grip! How did life become so cheap

[@lonelywanderer3558]

the only thing that ever boosts my livido is a fat blunt

[@RantTherapist]

Some often say perversion comes at a heavy price. Why do gay men have such a hard time being monogamous?

[@saulo2264]

Monogamy is unnatural. It's in our nature. Gay or not

[@toffthe]

Probably similar reasons to why straight men do , and women.

[@g.t4545]

I’m Gay and giving up the Cocaine and alcohol it’s works both ways

[@dewilew2137]

It takes seconds to put a condom on. I truly don’t understand.

[@dylanschannelable]

Lmao you obviously didn’t try that hard to understand

[@seanross9175]

It is Really scary to see one of my mates spiralling into the meth chem sex spiral over the last 3 years. Complete personality change from easy going to angry and violent.

[@arinasan247]

Wow, sad

[@bobsmith5441]

My friend has started doing this 6 months ago and feel he is slipping into this darkness

[@bobsmith5441]

My friend has started doing this 6 months ago and feel he is slipping into this darkness

[@yourmumisyournemesis2232]

Seriously can we stop to victimize every group that is deeply flawed? Responsiblity seems to be a taboo now a days everyone is guilty but the the persons themselves. Not only in this case but in every facette of life

[@ZacharyAlexanderGoh]

This is ridiculous, please have some respect for your own life.

[@src3360]

This is part of the reason i can count all of my homosexual friends on one hand....

[@aerialexplorer772]

Is that because only a handful of them would want to be your friend?

[@src3360]

@@aerialexplorer772 Possibly maybe

[@bobsmith5441]

SRC Explain what you mean?

[@brandonlee615]

Most of them dropped dead probs

[@yvonnedyer5371]

What can I say or do except God help you. Unfortunately once deviated from the norm it may be difficult to get back on it!!! So sad. Drugs are evil

[@jaimegermanotta8831]

This ruined my life. Stay away.

[@jaimegermanotta8831]

@NotAFan NeverWillBe ignorant..not all lives are the same and im warning others

[@jaimegermanotta8831]

@NotAFan NeverWillBe luckily you havent been thru the shit that can make ur brain crack so bad that it seems a good idea.

[@jaimegermanotta8831]

@NotAFan NeverWillBe people like you make me sick. Ive turned my life around and i have a strong mind i just lost my morals at the time. Youre right i dont know your life and you dont know mine so we shouldnt judge what we dont know. And you cannot prevent what you cant predict

[@jaimegermanotta8831]

@NotAFan NeverWillBe sorry but when did i say i didnt pay for my drugs. Secondly i never said i had a disease as a result did i. There you go assuming things. But you know what they say about people who make such large assumptions....

[@MLeibs]

Unsafe sex is risky, m’kay? Some people are living on the edge and just pushing their luck. Remember... when you have sex with someone, you are having sex with every person THEY had risky sex with too. Love yourself by looking after yourself! I grew up in the 80s and it was incredibly SOBERING to come of age while HIV/AIDS snowballed into a the scariest bogeyman we could ever conjure up!

[@chazgurrero3090]

Please challenge your self to learning about the creator of the universe. This helped me to & not get so wild when I was the horneyest time of my life. First I got into a 12 step principles & spending many hours swimming,sauna,lifting,walking. Allowing me focus on a relation. Lucky for me I was always a little chubbier & that saved my life. I suspect all this snutty ones got what they bargained for. So please protect your self cause you are worth caring for.

[@eneafinch8895]

i cannot believe you made such an amazing song the intro to a video about the rise of gay chemsex

[@tiffmeek]

This is so sad to watch. I look forward to the day when all gay men can live authentic lives and can freely express love and intimacy in healthy ways.

[@Moore18jp]

They can .. this is a choice ..

[@tiffmeek]

Paulo Guzzon Not always a choice for some members of minority groups who may or may not have the support of family, friends and society in general.

[@Moore18jp]

@@tiffmeek to use drugs it's a choice .. I'm gay myself and there is no excuse unless you want to use it. No one forces into your mouth

[@wilbursfilm8858]

not once did they mention how addictive the drugs can be as well, smh

[@peterc1232]

It's not just the gay culture doing this

[@t1910j]

My poor ears and eyes. What did I just watch 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@geangarcia2673]

I would also like to say that Adderall and Vyvanse (esp. Vyvanse) can lead to some of these risky behaviors. Just because it is not meth does not mean that it cannot cloud your judgement!

[@gigi.sovanny]

I think I got AIDs just watching this

[@Quickclay1]

You should change your name to ilivealifeinfear. LOL. FYI you can't get AIDS or HIV just watching. And. No one HAS to have unprotected sex. It's your choice. Catch up silly people.

[@tr.c5148]

Jesus Christ. The comments are so depressing/homophobic. You people punching down.

[@wizarddog5049]

“I got dumped so I did meth”

[@guadalupevasquez8964]

Now, do you still think that criticism is an expression of homophobia?

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

No. Homosexuals should live by the same morals as straight people, in a loving relationship built on trust and respect, or alone and celibate if that is what they prefer. Don't take drugs to increase your libido. Dedicate your life to things that are not base pleasures. Things like music or sport or helping others.

[@LOSTmanONTHEINTERNET]

prep is expensive. tax money at work

[@debshreebasu8137]

LOSTmanONTHEINTERNET absolutely

[@simon5005]

It's really sad that bringing out the problem of sex addiction in the gay community is so ignored.

[@ConservativeAnthem]

The expert says gay men don't understand true intimacy, therefore bathhouse culture runs rampant.

[@ben27705]

ConservativeAnthem actually we do. You’re ignorant, you’re not gay so you wouldn’t know.

[@jaimegermanotta8831]

Of course we understand true intimacy. I was living this life for a year when my life fell apart and 4 years later and sober i met my ex who i still love with all of my heart and miss everyday and i dont even think about drugs or hookups when with him. I wanted to get married have a family and a house together all the normal stuff and that was what made me fully truly content in life. Now hes gone and i feel constantly broken and alone. Trust me we understand love and actual intimacy...

[@timw4383]

9:02 Sanctimonious and judgemental?!! Sanctimonious and judgemental. SANCTIMONIOUS AND JUDGEMENTAL!!! WTF?!!

[@missharris5521]

Where’s the girl chem groups?

[@robiu.k.4504]

I’m a gay man as well ,I don’t do drugs this is the only one reason I stop visiting GAY club drugs

[@emanuellj1740]

And thats how you destroy an image and wonder why at the end of the day. Being aware of your own health and risk it for any kind of "fun“ is just stupid. No sympathy at all.

[@DanielCampbell-fc8xf]

So if they had to pay $2000 a month for this drug like in the us would they wear a condom?