The Grindr Serial Killer: Stephen Port's Murders

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BBC Three

BBC Three

7 жыл бұрын

Stephen Port has been found guilty of murdering four young men by poisoning them with lethal doses of the date-rape drug GHB. Now, a friend of one of the victims has claimed that police could have investigated the deaths earlier, possibly saving lives in the process.
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The Grindr Serial Killer: Stephen Port

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@johnnyramon
@johnnyramon 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about true friendship. Even after his buddy died he still fought for him. I truly admire him
@tweetled9811
@tweetled9811 4 жыл бұрын
Suck him up
@mirba6933
@mirba6933 4 жыл бұрын
StevieEthereal 966 But you are idiot,, if you think that.
@kingcrustytut7544
@kingcrustytut7544 4 жыл бұрын
Seb Web10 right tho
@colleta2400
@colleta2400 3 жыл бұрын
John is an amazing individual he encompasses the soul of one who values, courage, and care for fellow human being. Anyone who is privileged to call him friend, brother, or son is fortunate.
@arianaajbeaverhausen8175
@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 3 жыл бұрын
@Yes No that makes his actions even more impressive and inspiring, not less so. 🙄 Obviously some people here are just immature fools who have never had a serious thought in their empty head, you should just leave the adults to chat and go play your xbox or whatever.
@melissaalexandra9593
@melissaalexandra9593 7 жыл бұрын
When a random guy can look up and find more information than the damn police
@nathanvilla1
@nathanvilla1 7 жыл бұрын
Well said! To make it worse they didn't even listen to him. How did someone from the police force fail to see something was not right.
@LuisMendoza-qf4tv
@LuisMendoza-qf4tv 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Moore they just didnt care..
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 7 жыл бұрын
This man CARED. This was the thing that mattered, He cared, and put in proper effort. Shameful on the police for this idleness in these cases.
@SandrineAnterrion
@SandrineAnterrion 7 жыл бұрын
Mel T not even the first time this ever happened. Worrying
@ItsThatVogue
@ItsThatVogue 6 жыл бұрын
You guys need to look at it from the perspective of the police. If they do anything outside the rule book then the eventual prosecution can fall apart because of issues with evidence - its credibility, how it was obtained etc - which would ultimately affect the defendant's right to a fair trial. Also, they may have even suspected John Pape as the offender so why would they reveal their cards to him?
@sh0werp0wer
@sh0werp0wer 5 жыл бұрын
Stereotypes about gay people being sensitive aside, this guy's affection and genuine care towards a flatmate he had known for 6 weeks is truly heartwarming.
@francescabissanti8766
@francescabissanti8766 4 жыл бұрын
♥️Heartwarming init♥️
@pauls4923
@pauls4923 4 жыл бұрын
Julian Nikolay Krogh-Fredriksen great guy really
@CrimeAllTheTime
@CrimeAllTheTime 4 жыл бұрын
@Total Sweetheart he wasn't his gay lover. You obviously didn't watch the video, or if you did then you are having elementary school level comprehension issues. He was roommates with him.
@pretorious700
@pretorious700 4 жыл бұрын
Great sarcasm, you must be British.
@matthewaustin5292
@matthewaustin5292 3 жыл бұрын
@hauha to a fault. It can divorce you of compassion
@just-dl
@just-dl 5 жыл бұрын
John, I pray I will have a friend like you. You're a good man.
@just-dl
@just-dl 5 жыл бұрын
@Ciaran Moran213 you wouldn't want a friend that works that hard for you, or your memory? Not sure what makes you think I wouldn't want to have a friend like John.....
@iAmNothingness
@iAmNothingness 4 жыл бұрын
@@just-dl because it's obviously because he's gay.
@arianaajbeaverhausen8175
@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 3 жыл бұрын
@@just-dl no one wants a friend like "Yes No" 😂❤
@just-dl
@just-dl 3 жыл бұрын
@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 I think you got that right! I don't really want him/her for an acquaintance! yeesh!
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 2 жыл бұрын
Im stunned this all took place
@toddmichaeljohnson7139
@toddmichaeljohnson7139 7 жыл бұрын
This guy needs a medal, a hug, and a detective job.
@stugrant01
@stugrant01 6 жыл бұрын
The incompetent ones gang up against the competent ones.
@moone486
@moone486 6 жыл бұрын
Todd Michael Johnson throw the whole department away
@freshlove7926
@freshlove7926 6 жыл бұрын
Todd Michael Johnson - and a bj??
@xxxvictoriagourleyxxx4632
@xxxvictoriagourleyxxx4632 6 жыл бұрын
Todd Michael Johnson yas
@ggff3761
@ggff3761 6 жыл бұрын
Todd Michael Johnson come on he's a serial killer can't believe you'd say that
@poohcanplay123
@poohcanplay123 5 жыл бұрын
Get you a friend like John Also, be a friend like John
@minstrelofMir
@minstrelofMir 5 жыл бұрын
@Reality Reviews now we know what you will be in your next life time
@minstrelofMir
@minstrelofMir 5 жыл бұрын
well said... a true friend
@JohnWayne-86ed
@JohnWayne-86ed 5 жыл бұрын
Reality Reviews That's why they have chastity belts.
@horaciochapa9620
@horaciochapa9620 5 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow Ito hi
@jlh8830
@jlh8830 5 жыл бұрын
@Reality Reviews Lmfao
@sophiedillon-savage8954
@sophiedillon-savage8954 5 жыл бұрын
John is LEGENDARY he needs recognition for his kind and persistent acts throughout.
@bostonbruins1235
@bostonbruins1235 4 жыл бұрын
Sophie Dillon-Savage .. hi Sophie , wanna chat ? Your really pretty btw !
@danielpriest6369
@danielpriest6369 4 жыл бұрын
BOSTON BRUINS 12 talking to people like you was Gabriel’s first mistake, delete KZbin and download tinder you weirdo
@suckmaballz257
@suckmaballz257 4 жыл бұрын
I think he means the guy that killed all the gays
@mary-annesade
@mary-annesade 3 жыл бұрын
@Yes No it really is lol
@Kovukingsrod
@Kovukingsrod 4 жыл бұрын
My heart is with you, John.
@derriskywhisky3410
@derriskywhisky3410 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh you here :D I love ypur channel
@Adamhulbert95
@Adamhulbert95 6 жыл бұрын
John deserves a lot more recognition for all he did. He may have saved dozens of lives through his work and determination. All for a friend he easily could have mourned and moved on from but no he stood up to the police and worked to get justice for 3 innocent young men.
@tauresattauresa7137
@tauresattauresa7137 6 жыл бұрын
RyanBennett FC the Queen should give him a medal. He alone did something wonderful for the gay community and the community as a whole. He should be recognised publicly for it.
@mrsalbarn7720
@mrsalbarn7720 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab So if the drug orgy story was true, you don't think 3 deaths from a party warrants investigation? Or do you think older men drugging and raping young men is OK?! Also you need to go back and watch again. If they had of investigated the drug orgy story, they would have realised the parties did not exist and that they were a cover story. It would have been easy for them to trace the person Thierry was talking to. If they had listened to John Jack Taylor would still be alive now.
@burnedflowers141
@burnedflowers141 4 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab the police never considered the deaths suspicious... nobody cared in this story but John.
@daisydukes483
@daisydukes483 4 жыл бұрын
KoivuTheHab I kinda see what you’re saying but you can’t say he didn’t help with this investigation.
@nuagesshadow4117
@nuagesshadow4117 4 жыл бұрын
KoivuTheHab dumb af, home many times did the detectives and police tell him they were investigating the cases and nothing was suspicious. They weren’t even investigating until the LGBT groups allianced with the police highlighted his concern. Someone needs to watch the video again. Not until the last body turned up dead that’s when police finally took control and had the killer in custody.
@jujubook
@jujubook 7 жыл бұрын
John Pape, such a beautiful soul. Rented a room for a stranger to later become an advocate for a friend and the community.
@slyacid303
@slyacid303 7 жыл бұрын
We could do with more people like that it would make the world a safer place. Some people just don't care.
@andyb438
@andyb438 7 жыл бұрын
He did it cause he wanted his ass..
@rollieroulston
@rollieroulston 6 жыл бұрын
I thought he was gay himself?
@neurotictingilingsnahui2513
@neurotictingilingsnahui2513 6 жыл бұрын
Jul Szadu lmao, you can't be that naive poor girl
@MrsTruthTeller
@MrsTruthTeller 6 жыл бұрын
I love people like him!
@CorinneWoods
@CorinneWoods 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of love and kindness in John Papes heart brought tears to my eyes. Sending him so much love and big hugs.
@tweetled9811
@tweetled9811 4 жыл бұрын
Overrated
@Chrisg.86
@Chrisg.86 4 жыл бұрын
This guy was a damned good story teller and narrator. Someone needs to hire him ASAP!
@Zombie101
@Zombie101 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the BBC hired him already
@Dinesy16
@Dinesy16 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they did
@witchy-wonderland1416
@witchy-wonderland1416 7 жыл бұрын
Dudes over here avenging the death of someone he knew for 6 weeks & I can't even get a text back. We all need a friend like him
@witchy-wonderland1416
@witchy-wonderland1416 7 жыл бұрын
Nahh
@jermainetalaepa8463
@jermainetalaepa8463 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Lee she just wants some validation from strangers leave her alone
@mattkillam2033
@mattkillam2033 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Lee lolol
@rev418
@rev418 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Headridge thirst
@preciousjoe8946
@preciousjoe8946 6 жыл бұрын
Sydney Mancuso no you sure can’t
@JessimusPrime
@JessimusPrime 6 жыл бұрын
This guy did his friend the ultimate solid. Didn’t give up on him even in death. 😿
@ggff3761
@ggff3761 6 жыл бұрын
Jessimus Prime 😂😂did his friend😂😂I get it lmao
@torontofirefly
@torontofirefly 5 жыл бұрын
@@loyalentertainment4323HAHA wow very creative! How long did it take you to come up with that one? you complete tool... respect the poor lad instead of making a joke of him.
@veronicasettee6052
@veronicasettee6052 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could have the option to click "love" instead of just "liking" it ❤️
@ewanoxborrow1024
@ewanoxborrow1024 4 жыл бұрын
I’m appalled at the way the police handled this John you’re a hero, without your dedication for justice, in honour of your friend it’s likely he would have killed again, and again and again I pray for your peace, and your happiness my friend
@nashnash3644
@nashnash3644 2 жыл бұрын
And this is London police.they didn't take this case much seriously.
@mariusmatei2946
@mariusmatei2946 Жыл бұрын
@@nashnash3644 yeah, it got me wondering, is this kind of crime (not sure whether I should call it "hate crime", as the perpetrator, apparently, was gay, himself) a frequent occurrence in the United Kingdom?!?
@deadlyvenom91
@deadlyvenom91 3 жыл бұрын
This still haunts me. I remember this killer used to message me on Grindr all the time and I blocked him every single time. Years went past and I came across this story online and it affected me the way I didn’t even think it will. I went into deep depression and still find it really hard to trust guys. It could have been me and that scares me still to this day. I can’t thank God enough to have my back and protect me from this monster. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families ♥️
@fleur3986
@fleur3986 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you are safe and it must be a horrible feeling for you. Yes, the bad man was as ugly outside as inside. Take care x
@PsychicLord
@PsychicLord 3 жыл бұрын
Your intuition protected you, thank goodness you blocked him.
@abdulakram3095
@abdulakram3095 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you are lucky enough to take the correct move on time.
@Jack-xy3pm
@Jack-xy3pm 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think God protected the 4 victims as well?
@AvatarAang_
@AvatarAang_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-xy3pm God isn't real. This was pure luck. If God was real, he'd protected everyone, not select people.
@brynhendry2899
@brynhendry2899 7 жыл бұрын
This guy should be made a detective, he did a much better job than the police did.
@peterr6205
@peterr6205 7 жыл бұрын
It's usually not about the skill. I'm sure the detectives are much better at their job than this guy. The issue is, most police don't get the luxury of working on just one case for 6 months. They have something like this coming up every single day. Most people get away with crime, not because they make themselves hard to catch, but because the police are to busy. If crimes get unsolved, people get upset, if taxes go up to hire more police, people get upset. The police are not complete fools, at least not most of them, they are just overworked.
@xNatheeeGamer
@xNatheeeGamer 7 жыл бұрын
Peter R This is bullshit. It's England, the murder rates are exceptionally small in comparison to say, America. This looks like a smaller town, nothing much ever happens in smaller towns of England other than robberies and fights (I'm from one). A murder would have been insane in comparison to the usual petty crimes, this should have been investigated.
@gabbiegarcia9350
@gabbiegarcia9350 6 жыл бұрын
Bryn Hendry I was thinking the same as I watched.
@dylanmorgan2752
@dylanmorgan2752 6 жыл бұрын
+Lee Sin JG small towns don’t have a dedicated staff of homicide detectives, usually get called in from bigger urban areas which are overstretched and have huge budget cuts anyway. Stephen port was actually very smart and deceiving besides doing it in the same place and the dumb suicide note idea, only after that did murder even cross the police mind. Police might’ve just assumed dodgy product was in rotation on the streets. If port had done this same crimes in a built up urban area with lots of nightlife and had spread out his murder areas, sick fucks like this are untraceable.
@tsfcancerman
@tsfcancerman 6 жыл бұрын
Bryn Hendry cops job is to clock in and drag out the case and maybe get some overtime and if realy lucky get to travel somewhere while they dont do their job properly. Cause if they do their job they would arrest ppl who do crime instead of bullying ppl because they dont respect cops authority.
@isitoveryet9525
@isitoveryet9525 6 жыл бұрын
I don't believe for one second that the police couldn't put this together, they didn't even try. Thank goodness for John Pape, he saved a lot of lives.
@burlhorse61
@burlhorse61 5 жыл бұрын
i think its been edited to look like he did all the work though
@rojamillerover
@rojamillerover 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab Police are time wasters,there is no lie there.
@rojamillerover
@rojamillerover 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab but then had the police traced who wrote that chem sex story to John via Facebook they would have found Steven sooner.So stop defending these stupid police officers.They waste time tracking car offences like speeding,tax and insurance but take forever to close murder cases meanwhile more people are behind killed
@rojamillerover
@rojamillerover 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab you sound so ignorant prick,respond to what l said.Im actually a PHD student so who needs an education between you and l.I'm not going to stoop to your level,clearly you are a police officer or someone who licks ass for a living.Grow a pair and stop supporting morons.
@rojamillerover
@rojamillerover 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab you are the one who needs to grow up constable,lm not the one who made you and your generation useless.Pot calling the kettle black,l doubt you finished your GCSE's🤔🤔
@domjay
@domjay 4 жыл бұрын
Huh - so this dude did his own investigation and was more effective than the local police. Go figure ....
@mariacheung647
@mariacheung647 4 жыл бұрын
The police didn't do shit!
@PurplePinkRed
@PurplePinkRed 3 жыл бұрын
Happens a lot in murder cases! Almost like you have to do your own leg work to get anywhere.
@dragoncannetabile
@dragoncannetabile 5 жыл бұрын
There's nothing more heartbreaking than a person trying to be strong and solid in front of the camera but then intense emotions breaks through. He really did everything he could. I want a friend like that 14:17 we need people like this.
@Who-qn5fl
@Who-qn5fl 6 жыл бұрын
vigilant citizens like John are the real heroes.
@user-zy9yg2eu5t
@user-zy9yg2eu5t 5 жыл бұрын
Grass
@raptorreddelta3986
@raptorreddelta3986 5 жыл бұрын
@Witchfinder Nielsen I'd guess he's more cash money than you are, edgelord
@jump2itxxx
@jump2itxxx 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse the intrusion, but I'm not sure a sentence should start with 'besides', a semicolon should have preceded not a full stop; Anyway have a peaceful day.
@Warr8711
@Warr8711 5 жыл бұрын
Goes to show, you don’t have to be related by blood to be family. This guy investigated as if it were his own. True hero.
@David-cm4ok
@David-cm4ok 4 жыл бұрын
After living with him for 6 weeks though? Its unusual to be close to someone in that time.
@yungdrilla7354
@yungdrilla7354 4 жыл бұрын
David word. That’s what I was thinking
@bjarnestronstrup9122
@bjarnestronstrup9122 4 жыл бұрын
@@David-cm4ok He was probably a good sex partner, but it didn't work both ways. That is why Gabriel went to those orgies.
@David-cm4ok
@David-cm4ok 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjarnestronstrup9122 fair enough.
@Neilukuk
@Neilukuk 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjarnestronstrup9122 I bet it was sex for free rent agreement.
@suzbone
@suzbone 4 жыл бұрын
18:03 "I think if you only encounter a community or a group of people by policing them, that potentially you develop a prejudice about them." Truer words were never spoken.
@the.masked.reviewer-4980
@the.masked.reviewer-4980 5 жыл бұрын
This dude is a really clear thinker - gives some hope for the evolution and development of further empathy, love, and down to Earth living while keeping the well-being of others in mind
@katekay
@katekay 7 жыл бұрын
This is really scary, how could the police have missed something so obvious, that a person could make the link using Google but the police couldn't is so worrying.
@petermccolm9119
@petermccolm9119 7 жыл бұрын
It also lends to the belief that they were protecting the killers and that the person accused of these killings was probably a patsy.
@AnaisEngland
@AnaisEngland 7 жыл бұрын
Don't be wet.
@alabastersmidge4692
@alabastersmidge4692 7 жыл бұрын
Kate McNamara I agree.Very scary!
@annipsy2185
@annipsy2185 7 жыл бұрын
Kate McNamara because when people find something interesting and reaaaaly focus on it ,they pay way more attention to it/spend more time on it.because its much more personal.not just a job. for example when somethings wrong with your body and doctors seem to get it wrong or just dont know what it is, youre most likely gonna find out about it before any doctor IF you chose to realy look into it.
@katekay
@katekay 7 жыл бұрын
Anni Psy I mean I do get where you're coming from but this evidence was really easy to find, a Google search was all it took. It's just hard to think that the police wouldn't look into this case more closely when so many young, gay men in the same area were killed.
@missporrige
@missporrige 7 жыл бұрын
I knew one of the victims, Anthony. He lived in my halls at university and we would often party together and we got on really well. He was such a kind and funny person and by no means a "druggy". I am so sad that he his gone but I am so thankful for the hard work that John has done so that Stephen Port is where he belongs. I just can't believe it took 3 other victims to get to that point....
@AetherIdol
@AetherIdol 6 жыл бұрын
Georgia Rose I'm so sorry you lost your friend.
@were-all-human9427
@were-all-human9427 6 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would write a book on the victims, so we can get to know them, before they are forgotten by all but those that new them - perhaps you (miss Rose) could suggest this to a publisher... Im reading The Meaning of Matthew, by his mother.....
@kpaterson9717
@kpaterson9717 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss. Take care lovely
@nonayobiznez5311
@nonayobiznez5311 5 жыл бұрын
John is very articulate and should be a detective himself.
@gojewla
@gojewla 4 жыл бұрын
Nona Yobiznez I doubt that he is hardened enough to be able to stand it.
@the0fficialmiguel870
@the0fficialmiguel870 3 жыл бұрын
i actually deleted my grindr after being sent the message "i will find you". shit terrified me
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 7 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? After the second death, the police couldn't, or just wouldn't, make a connection? Any half-witted detective should have been able to take one look at the first two victims and based on their physical resemblance: body type, hair, and facial features, the fact the victims were relatively found in the same area, less than a mile away from each other, that should have been more than enough to establish a pattern.
@siy8230
@siy8230 7 жыл бұрын
theylied1776 and that they would've both had GHB in their bloodstream
@justcasper734
@justcasper734 7 жыл бұрын
@theylied1776 yup I know righttt u took the words right out of my mouth , and who knows if they even ordered a drug test for his autopsy,even thou if they did or didn't it still comes out on the check up on the blood which is procedure ,it seems to me a lack of police and corner (ppl with all the files) job or like they didn't even bother much with them cases ,and who really knows if and how long it took them to reach his parents and give them notice ,and long story short , the case is so simple to solve if u put some caring into it and really do their jobs correctly ,both boys also would and I bet had the same drugs in there systems and c'mon can they show anymore lack of their work , they could of saved the other 2 boys if they would of just worked with the evidence they had with the 1st 2 boys ,they were just found streets away from eachother ,meaning that's the area he kills or just dumps the bodies ,but still they could of staked out all around that area in a undercover cars and easily would of caught the murderer ,......and even brake his code to facebook and read his messages I'm sure there was a bunch of information in the inbox messages ,..enough to pin down the killer
@myothernameistaken
@myothernameistaken 7 жыл бұрын
But GHB is rapidly cleared by the body via first-pass metabolism. That's why so many women who report date-rape lack any phlebometic evidence.
@siy8230
@siy8230 7 жыл бұрын
razakel I didn't know that. Hmm, well even so the police were extremely lacking imo.
@myothernameistaken
@myothernameistaken 7 жыл бұрын
Well, you likely know nothing about pharmacology. Personally, I'm fascinated by the anthropological and societal implications of illegal drugs.
@AmeliaSXx
@AmeliaSXx 7 жыл бұрын
Full support to BBC Three for giving this man his right to speak and hold the police to account. A really interesting and eye opening documentary, vital to the gaps in modern day policing that aren't quite being reached by the checklist they have currently. I can only hope that as a result of these recent findings that the police have a further inquiry into their methodology, however the public statement they issued as a result of this is appalling.
@PalashaGabarra
@PalashaGabarra 5 жыл бұрын
It's like investigating crack head deaths, or something like that. Nobody cares about a bunch of low life, degenerate deviants. Nor should they.
@jamesfox6909
@jamesfox6909 5 жыл бұрын
Brotein 7 don’t you have a bus to step in front of tomorrow? No one gives a shit about a pathetic excuse of a Human being like you
@nlb1138
@nlb1138 5 жыл бұрын
the police never thought to compare the handwriting of the victim and the alleged suicide note?
@OhMyPets
@OhMyPets 5 жыл бұрын
When ordinary people are MORE competent THAN police officers and a coroner for that matter. SMH 🤦🏼‍♂️
@googlebarbaralernerspectre2581
@googlebarbaralernerspectre2581 4 жыл бұрын
Don't rely on the police, they aren't worth it.
@antwan37
@antwan37 7 жыл бұрын
"please don't blame the guy I was with last night"...!!!??? Are you serious ? You don't go immediately check who he was with that night ? you don't go and check the computers and the chat logs ? Do you call yourselves policemen ?
@tomh4754
@tomh4754 6 жыл бұрын
sharefactor Yeah but in Rotherham they knew but were too scared to admit it for fear of being labelled racists. Here there was no such excuse. This is an absolute travesty.
@tehf00n
@tehf00n 6 жыл бұрын
more than that, they assist in covering it up because of the institutionalized paedophile networks in Parliament.
@mechadonia
@mechadonia 6 жыл бұрын
If I got murdered my room mate probably wouldn’t have noticed till rent was due, lmAo.
@mumtazzafar1576
@mumtazzafar1576 5 жыл бұрын
I meant your room mate not landlord
@joseescobedo7899
@joseescobedo7899 5 жыл бұрын
Damn
@alfredodiaz4580
@alfredodiaz4580 5 жыл бұрын
Dude... Lmfao😂😩😂
@Cultsurvivor
@Cultsurvivor 5 жыл бұрын
Im fuckin weak 😂😂🤣 its better then roomin with friends and mixing money with personal. Roommate smart if u ask me
@crwwndmikeskating
@crwwndmikeskating 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rotundus i hope you are ok
@WHITELIONNYC
@WHITELIONNYC 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is a hero. He can replace the entire police department and still do a more effective and efficient job.
@TamarRoxx
@TamarRoxx 5 жыл бұрын
What a smart, compassionate, tenacious man
@jmcp6480
@jmcp6480 7 жыл бұрын
That guy should be a police investigator
@theconspiracyfactorist.144
@theconspiracyfactorist.144 6 жыл бұрын
HJD What a lad He used common sense when something pricked his conscious something the police didn't do.
@ollydeherrera7281
@ollydeherrera7281 6 жыл бұрын
"Please don't blame the guy I was with last night..." come on that's like kids mystery show level obvious. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
@abigailarizmendi1261
@abigailarizmendi1261 5 жыл бұрын
It is funny though
@lancehandy6648
@lancehandy6648 5 жыл бұрын
It almost seems fake. Who would write that and think that would work.... AND IT DID. Lord knows if I was that dude and wrote that, theyd would be like "we got em guys.... cuff em"
@derekmiller6365
@derekmiller6365 5 жыл бұрын
I can see him getting arrested now like "and I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those pesky kids and that dog" lol
@kerrycarroll5365
@kerrycarroll5365 5 жыл бұрын
@@abigailarizmendi1261 hhhchhcccccchhhhhccchyxx
@clarewhite548
@clarewhite548 5 жыл бұрын
@Witchfinder Nielsen I pray that you are joking
@mohamedaseem47
@mohamedaseem47 3 жыл бұрын
John is a real human being with real compassion and sympathy, something most of society lacks nowadays.
@kayfay2535
@kayfay2535 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many cases we’ll never know about because there wasn’t a dedicated friend like this guy.
@ananimity7332
@ananimity7332 7 жыл бұрын
This is so sad. The lives of those young men taken. I'm happy that the friend kept pushing to be heard. He saved future victims from a horrible death
@philjames6206
@philjames6206 6 жыл бұрын
Police are racist and anti gay. If I wasn't straight I would cross the road to Port who looks like an escapee from a Freak Show.
@ManchesterUtdLuke
@ManchesterUtdLuke 6 жыл бұрын
(gay men) huge difference
@FolkHarmony
@FolkHarmony 6 жыл бұрын
Manchester Utd Luke 1988 what do you mean?
@FolkHarmony
@FolkHarmony 6 жыл бұрын
Manchester Utd Luke 1988 so you're saying being gay is a disease?
@ManchesterUtdLuke
@ManchesterUtdLuke 6 жыл бұрын
it is? 200 years ago you'd get tortured for having it. No one fully accepts gays. Maybe on face value when people lie to gay peoples faces but no one understands or accepts them, never will.
@Yuna-ed5jc
@Yuna-ed5jc 6 жыл бұрын
Also, it's hella suspicious to write "don't blame the guy I was with last night"
@dellar.6082
@dellar.6082 5 жыл бұрын
Yuna Exactly my thoughts. Can’t believe they didn’t bother looking into it.
@Luisa-wr5bj
@Luisa-wr5bj 5 жыл бұрын
Also the fact that when the police were asked if they checked the handwriting with the family they said yes but clearly they didn’t
@loyalentertainment4323
@loyalentertainment4323 5 жыл бұрын
Proper retardation/ autistic to not find it suspicious 'Dont blame the guy i was with last night', jeez
@Cultsurvivor
@Cultsurvivor 5 жыл бұрын
Ashley R. Lmfao right 😂 nobody says that afrer a suicide note. His ass guilty
@nazzme6181
@nazzme6181 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda like, " Don't check my trunk..I hit a deer in reverse"!!! They definitely need an outreach/ liasson officer for the Gay community!💝
@vonkaabbas5186
@vonkaabbas5186 5 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of stories that SHOULD be covered by EVERY public broadcasting station!!!
@kimberleygoodall8253
@kimberleygoodall8253 4 жыл бұрын
And John did all of this for a guy he'd known six weeks (give or take) John is someone how needs more recognition for his work. We should all aspire to be like John.
@timfagan816
@timfagan816 3 жыл бұрын
You posted this a year ago, I bet you haven't changed your ways at all in that year to be like john pape
@wayne2816wayne
@wayne2816wayne 7 жыл бұрын
I need a friend like this dude. What an incredible guy doing what he did.
@Flynbrd68
@Flynbrd68 7 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent documentary. His diligence and loyalty to his friend truly helped take a murderer off the streets! It's just a shame that the police pussy footed around and 3 more people died! What if they had been straight and sober? Quicker and more thorough investigation? Hmmm...we can only speculate but this guy did better detective work than the real detectives, and put the puzzle together quicker! So that should've told them just how obviously linked the crimes actually were! I'm sorry they died that way. Nobody deserves that, gay or straight! Sigh....what a world!
@indy1972
@indy1972 7 жыл бұрын
Carla .McD couldn't agree more! +1
@jesssecrest89
@jesssecrest89 7 жыл бұрын
Carla .McD he met a "friend" online whom he immediately let live with him. When Gabriel said he was moving out, he openly admitted in the beginning that he didn't even ask where. This guy is no friend. He has used this for attention and fame since. He had pics of the first three victims. Very young Blondish Twinkie looking men. Then rambles on and on about how it could be him next. He is 40 years old with a little boys hair cut. Something just isn't right with this guy either. He continues to exploit these men, pretending to be an lgbt crusader while going around town pretending to cry and vomit at every turn but only when talking about if it had been him. May I never be blessed with such a "friend".
@ThisIsNuckingFuts
@ThisIsNuckingFuts 7 жыл бұрын
Oi Jess you're right! What old man is cruising gay sites to rent out rooms to young men?? Why is this weird behaviour allowed in the gay community? Is it because of the whole daddy kink thing?? Cause if that was my son I would be sickened to think he was living with an older man like that. It's automatically predatory. And I'm not upset but I do worry for young people a lot. I know how naive I was.
@jesssecrest89
@jesssecrest89 7 жыл бұрын
vegan vegeta it is really sad. To imagine fleeing a predator to answer a ad by a serial killer.
@dexterbrooks7939
@dexterbrooks7939 7 жыл бұрын
sickening
@tabathafeucht3513
@tabathafeucht3513 4 жыл бұрын
John should have been a detective. He deserves a hell of alot more recognition for what he did. He probably saved god knows how many other young men's lives. Bless 'em.
@adriangamble2214
@adriangamble2214 5 жыл бұрын
This guy deserves some recognition in the UK!!! I’m so proud to see the passion and determination you exuded in closing this case, here’s to you!!!!!
@FB-mw5gv
@FB-mw5gv 7 жыл бұрын
Use to see this creep on the bus all the time. He used to sit at the back usually eating chicken and chips, he was always on his own. Gives me shivers fucking creep. R.I.P jack
@stuberty
@stuberty 7 жыл бұрын
UR3ANFISH but bus was it? He looks scarily familiar
@FB-mw5gv
@FB-mw5gv 7 жыл бұрын
The number 62
@danijal1859
@danijal1859 7 жыл бұрын
the murderer or the guy who investigated
@FB-mw5gv
@FB-mw5gv 7 жыл бұрын
Lol I think eating smelly food on the bus is actually against tfl policy 😂. But no honestly I thought he was a creep because of his demeanour. He appeared anti social and aloof.
@holyfuck444
@holyfuck444 7 жыл бұрын
UR3ANFISH who though ? The dude in the video or the killer ?
@_mahappy_3400
@_mahappy_3400 7 жыл бұрын
This is so horrible. The fact that he was trying to make sense of it while the police were simply trying put it all to rest is sickening.
@lacymacdougall9660
@lacymacdougall9660 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful person you are John. You did everything you could, and we are proud of you.
@1111seeker
@1111seeker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow friend like him exist..what a nice friend n great human being..respect ...
@jamiehughes3497
@jamiehughes3497 7 жыл бұрын
i think this fella so well articulated his account of things, sensitively and so spot on with everything
@creativeryan7557
@creativeryan7557 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab yes he did but how was that his fault?
@creativeryan7557
@creativeryan7557 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab ok I may be, please explain how
@creativeryan7557
@creativeryan7557 5 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab I didn't claim he was not at fault, I said how was that his fault? As he was just feeding back the clever lies the murderer had feed him like anyone would as it sounded believable & he thought it would validly help the investigation
@elisabetacanalisbrad1712
@elisabetacanalisbrad1712 6 жыл бұрын
He feels so guilty that he never asked Gabriel where he was going.
@BlacKWidoW70s
@BlacKWidoW70s 5 жыл бұрын
: ( such a great friend really he didnt give up on the truth or giving justice for his friend...just wow
@burlhorse61
@burlhorse61 5 жыл бұрын
should be up to Gabriel to give him that info-might want to keep things private
@sleeepybae1459
@sleeepybae1459 4 жыл бұрын
This man did more work than the police and he deserves a medal for what he did. He didn't give up and he possibly saved future lives from the sick serial killer. It's just too bad the police didn't take it more seriously because more deaths could have been prevented. RIP
@sin2510
@sin2510 2 жыл бұрын
John is a genuinely good person, the world doesn't deserve him.
@nodstarz
@nodstarz 7 жыл бұрын
I am so happy people like you exist in the world. thankyou for not giving up on your cause.
@PlatoonGoon
@PlatoonGoon 5 жыл бұрын
What a friend. You have my respect.
@tweetled9811
@tweetled9811 4 жыл бұрын
His gay lovee
@scremmy_draws
@scremmy_draws 4 жыл бұрын
tweetle d so?
@russakerman7547
@russakerman7547 2 жыл бұрын
John, you are a truly amazing, special person. I'm sure that Gabriel would think this too. You are clearly a thoroughly decent human being, and your friends and family should be very proud of you. Be happy, you deserve it. Total respect for you.
@gojewla
@gojewla 4 жыл бұрын
John seems like a great guy. I want to give him a hug.
@mariella2884
@mariella2884 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this gentleman John not a politician he is the type we need, so eloquent, such critical thinking. Ugh
@bostonbruins1235
@bostonbruins1235 4 жыл бұрын
Zoe Mariella .. hi Zoe , your hot , wanna chat ?
@chief6078
@chief6078 4 жыл бұрын
^ this guy is a person who u should watch out for
@chrike01
@chrike01 4 жыл бұрын
@@bostonbruins1235 creep
@bostonbruins1235
@bostonbruins1235 4 жыл бұрын
bobr.mp4 Your a Homosexual so keep chasing little boys !
@arnarmagnusson8201
@arnarmagnusson8201 4 жыл бұрын
BOSTON BRUINS 12 little boys would be peadophillia that kinda the law
@ChristinaBentley1
@ChristinaBentley1 7 жыл бұрын
What a great guy. Glad he got to share his story - may they all rest in peace x
@aronvanmilaan4773
@aronvanmilaan4773 7 жыл бұрын
Christina Bentley Well said
@bigmac329190
@bigmac329190 6 жыл бұрын
They were gay so they will be in hell now according to the bible.
@Dee8Bee
@Dee8Bee 4 жыл бұрын
This man is amazing. The things he did to get justice for his friend and stopping a killer from murdering more men. Shame on the police for being so negligent. My heart breaks for him, he still feel such guilt and sadness. I would recommend reading the books of Dr. Brian L. Weiss to anyone that lost loved ones. Those stories of his patients help me with my grief.
@petermayadunne9512
@petermayadunne9512 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing friend and human being you are, John. Truly an inspiration....
@xiaorishu
@xiaorishu 7 жыл бұрын
He's such a good friend for investigating :) + Shame on the police :(
@lextalk925
@lextalk925 7 жыл бұрын
xiaorishu oh my God! hey! I used to watch the crap out of your videos! hope everything is going well for you!
@canttouchdylan
@canttouchdylan 5 жыл бұрын
"Homophobia is a strong word. But I think if you only encounter a community or a group of people by policing them, that potentially you develop a prejudice about that community. And I am therefore left wondering whether the problem is there is a lack of diversity within the police force, that they are still seeing the gay community as something other". Powerful words!
@PalashaGabarra
@PalashaGabarra 5 жыл бұрын
Gay as fuck.
@StorytimewithLurkette
@StorytimewithLurkette 5 жыл бұрын
@Tanel k what?
@wandering_soul334
@wandering_soul334 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Powerful and Insightful. 🖤
@piotrb4240
@piotrb4240 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is so extreme, it's outrageous even to homophobes...
@brandonle6236
@brandonle6236 5 жыл бұрын
Its the gay people themselves who alienates themselves from others
@caseylynnlittle
@caseylynnlittle 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I truly hope that if anything ever happens to me, I have a friend like John. The world needs more 'Johns'.
@eleanorsvenson2958
@eleanorsvenson2958 2 жыл бұрын
Gabriel was very loved to have a man so invested in the importance of his life to fight so hard for justice. There’s Beauty in this story. It’s tragic but there’s Beauty too.
@lakefire9985
@lakefire9985 7 жыл бұрын
that kid from slovakia looked so young . this fella port is pure evil
@aidenw207
@aidenw207 6 жыл бұрын
Grindr is Full of Sociopaths, guys please be careful.
@ardkoreable
@ardkoreable 6 жыл бұрын
a grinder is a tool to roll joints :P or to crumble your weed
@ardkoreable
@ardkoreable 5 жыл бұрын
Grinder is to roll joints with a tool :D
@egglliott2156
@egglliott2156 5 жыл бұрын
Kenny Clauw yes that is what a grinder is but grindr (no e) is a gay dating app
@ardkoreable
@ardkoreable 5 жыл бұрын
your from ,the uk or the states :D just c urious
@ardkoreable
@ardkoreable 5 жыл бұрын
ah you w'ere on grinder then? :D you want a date lol
@damama736
@damama736 5 жыл бұрын
RIP to your friend, Gabriel.....I'm glad he left an inpression on you enough to care that his life and the others mattered! Thanks for being persistent.
@jackiemorrell2298
@jackiemorrell2298 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs a friend like John.
@WorldsWorstBoy
@WorldsWorstBoy 6 жыл бұрын
*THIS MAN IS A LEGEND!* They should make a movie about him he went above and beyond to get closure for his friends death and in getting his message out he saved many people.
@mrsalbarn7720
@mrsalbarn7720 5 жыл бұрын
It's being filmed now, the barking murders with Stephen Marchant
@trevordixon1427
@trevordixon1427 2 жыл бұрын
Yes .thanks..
@jamgodswill3949
@jamgodswill3949 2 жыл бұрын
There’s also a tv show. Called four lives.
@terra2805
@terra2805 7 жыл бұрын
Pathetic effort out of those who are meant to "protect and serve" us all. R.I.P. to them all.
@mattsmith3056
@mattsmith3056 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing new then same thing with Brett!
@lisascarrott6142
@lisascarrott6142 5 жыл бұрын
Its awful poor men who had their lives taken away to soon
@emms7392
@emms7392 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you mate, everyone needs a friend like you. ❤️
@delusionsofgrandeur1330
@delusionsofgrandeur1330 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine, Cody Ziegler, was found dead from an overdose. The drugs were gone, his wallet was gone, his truck was gone and when asked about further investigation a Calgary police officer said “he was just a junky”
@zanderman004
@zanderman004 7 жыл бұрын
What an amazing and dedicated friend.
@YenneferStark2
@YenneferStark2 7 жыл бұрын
The whole police department should be fired.
@georginacat7667
@georginacat7667 7 жыл бұрын
David Groves true... if they had just sacked all of the nurses in the ul after beverley allet killed the babies... we would never have a baby death in the uk again. why do the goverment not see the sense in such things??
@mizzury54
@mizzury54 5 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to add how the police actually caught Stephen Port.
@coughdropper
@coughdropper 4 жыл бұрын
I love that this man did not back down. He kept seeking justice regardless of the police turning a blind eye to this.
@zanesilver
@zanesilver 7 жыл бұрын
this guy is a hero for invistigating into this. total respect
@susannam3923
@susannam3923 5 жыл бұрын
I love everyone's appreciation of John in the comments. you deserve it m8
@smellyolegoat150
@smellyolegoat150 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't link them, because they didn't care. Bless John for his attempts to call attention to what was happening.
@Maria.9094
@Maria.9094 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like police work 101
@chriswilson2431
@chriswilson2431 3 жыл бұрын
What a decent bloke, to take matters into his own hands and make the effort to see justice for his housemate. Well done that man. You’ll be troubled by this awful turn of events probably for life, but Gabriel would have been eternally grateful to you for doing all you have. Such a strong guy. Well done you.
@JustinLHopkins
@JustinLHopkins 6 жыл бұрын
Men have a false sense of security, which is partially why they engage in risky behavior that women have been taught to avoid. Many of the worlds worst, most prolific serial killers exclusively targeted men, so the sense of security actually works in the killers favor. Randy Kraft was a serial killer in Los Angeles who killed over 60 men and some were marines. It’s terrifying to think that an average man could plan his murders so well that he could eventually take down a much larger, stronger man. Serial killers are cunning and that’s the problem. Once you realize what’s going on, it’s too late. So use your best judgment and don’t let your sex drive dictate your behavior.
@cosmosrunner2468
@cosmosrunner2468 5 жыл бұрын
What a brave, determined and compassionate man. Smart enough to follow the trail and have justice carried out. He has a heart of gold. I want to be his friend!!
@aprilsummers6447
@aprilsummers6447 3 жыл бұрын
@Yes No why do you say that?
@RandomHeroSpotting
@RandomHeroSpotting 2 жыл бұрын
Through the love for his friend and investigating as things didn't add up, John brought more attention to the case! I remember seeing the news of this, reading into it.... absolutely appalled that the police honestly neglected everything. John is a true hero, a real friend and doesn't get the credit he deserves. Couldn't imagine how far this could have went on and how many more could have lost their lives with the police's failing the investigation. R.I.P. to the four beautiful souls and my condolences to all affected
@davidcope4559
@davidcope4559 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing but respect John, you have a heart of gold. Wish I had a friend like you.
@TheSnyderWeb
@TheSnyderWeb 5 жыл бұрын
This guy wasn't some long time friend, he was a roommate hed only known for about 6 weeks. Yet he dedicated himself to figuring this out and wouldn't give up. He worked harder than law enforcement did. Talk about a stand up guy. And he also seems really kind and humble.
@gabbygideon9502
@gabbygideon9502 7 жыл бұрын
this guy is so insightful and expresses his thoughts so well. He would be a great detective.
@renataostertag6051
@renataostertag6051 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having put all this effort into this Sir.
@mivias6768
@mivias6768 5 жыл бұрын
you are one of the greatest friend he could have ! what a friend ... i am so sorry for your loss , but you won our hearts and ispired us on how a true friends look
@quirkypurple
@quirkypurple 6 жыл бұрын
Whoever picked the music for this docommentary deserves a raise! Lots of Boards of Canada and Aphex Twin! I just love BBC III lately. Also, great doc. That gentleman doing his own investigation is so articulate and commendable. Such a sad story.
@iCrazy13
@iCrazy13 5 жыл бұрын
Burial too!
@TheMusicmak3r
@TheMusicmak3r 5 жыл бұрын
Wanna sit on mommy's lap? -Tim
@ProfessorRocket
@ProfessorRocket 5 жыл бұрын
Liter-ally thought the same thing then saw ur comment
@hannahsims1634
@hannahsims1634 5 жыл бұрын
I came here to notice if anyone noticed lol
@matdombrk
@matdombrk 5 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting to hear Boards of Canada here. Now i want to stop the video and listen to that album.
@joyfulwingedlion6921
@joyfulwingedlion6921 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly think the friend investigating on his own should be a police officer, he could have used his determination and passion to save other lives. Too many meatheads are entering the police force and we wonder why they are bad at their job, well duh thats what happens when you feed a police culture that nurtures meatheads over critical thinkers.
@earl_gay
@earl_gay 5 жыл бұрын
a lot of it is that they're binded by the rules. if this guy joined the police he'd be in the same position. life isnt like the books and films- you go off and try and investigate without protocol, you lose your job and nobody carries on looking in to it anyway.
@mattyy101
@mattyy101 5 жыл бұрын
Officers get corrupted
@ems8717
@ems8717 4 жыл бұрын
Bethan H private investigator maybe
@bula9737
@bula9737 5 жыл бұрын
Relentless and determined to seek justice for the lost lives. Good on you, John!! You are a genuine person and a bloody legend!!! You deserve great things in life mate. Love from down under 🇦🇺
@britthannah3292
@britthannah3292 4 жыл бұрын
It is so amazing that you never gave up. Most people would have, especially with so many forces against you. I hope you continue to fight and find answers for others in need.
@kitgracepower1
@kitgracepower1 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. What an articulate and erudite interviewee. And an absolute warrior. Well done, sir.
@killerskillet
@killerskillet 6 жыл бұрын
*The "typing" subtitle style on this video is absolutely brutal. Just put the words up on the screen in one shot.*
@ardkoreable
@ardkoreable 6 жыл бұрын
i like it :D really
@Goofypoof
@Goofypoof 6 жыл бұрын
Im high and it was actually quite soothing
@britt709
@britt709 5 жыл бұрын
I loved that sound 😂😂 damn
@JaymeSplendid
@JaymeSplendid 5 жыл бұрын
It makes sense really, the fact that this was done within an online community hammers it home with the typing.
@S.M.9
@S.M.9 5 жыл бұрын
killerskillet i hate the sound of typing so much i had to mute the video for most parts
@carolinemulenga2697
@carolinemulenga2697 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo, John Pape! May we all be blessed with a friend such as you! I especially loved what you said about that cemetery not being a Gabriel place...that he wasn't alive there. It was a place contaminated by the very evil, twisted man who murdered him.
@jettsetgirl
@jettsetgirl 4 жыл бұрын
This Man is a true friend with a true moral compass
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