The risks of Fraxel (Fractional) Laser / Over 50

Hi lovelies. If you’re over 50 and considering Fraxel (Fractional) Laser you need to watch this video. Fractional Laser, like many laser treatments, can give excellent anti-aging results and considerably improve the look of mature skin but there are risks. In this video I share my story and give you some tips on how to choose the right Skin Expert if you are thinking of having any type of laser treatment to improve your mature skin.
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00:00 Intro
01:46 About Fraxel (Fractional) Laser
02:53 Fraxel (Fractional) Laser Risks
03:36 My Fraxel (Fractional) Laser Experience
04:49 HOW PAINFUL is Fraxel (Fractional) Laser?
05:34 AFTER PHOTOS Fraxel (Fractional) Laser
06:58 What went wrong!
07:48 Did my neck recover?
08:20 WHO PAYS if treatments go wrong?
09:14 What you NEED TO KNOW
09:56 8 TIPS on how to choose the RIGHT Professional
13:04 Would I have more laser?
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[@susanthomas5883]

I just had a fully ablative Erbium laser performed on my face and neck. it took me months to find a" qualified" professional...I was looking for a board certified dermatologist with a fellowship in lasers. I finally found one a couple of hours from me and it was SO worth it! Honestly, I was not looking for just a board certificate dermatologist or a plastic surgeon. They are not properly trained in lasers specifically. I hope this helps. I also follow Stefanie Kappel and she was so helpful in finding the type of doctor I was looking for and she explains why plastic surgeons are not fully qualified.

[@susanthomas5883]

Also, I recommend only having it done by the board certified dermatologist with a fellowship in lasers....no one else...no supervising...they have to be doing it themselves. They should have done at least a thousand...no joke and request to see THEIR before and afters. You may have to pay a little more but it's your face and skin...it's worth it. :)

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Susan. Yes you are so right. I go to a dermatologist now who is probably the leading practitioner in laser therapy here. The hunt for the right person is definitely worth it. Thanks for sharing your experience. Sheena 💖

[@susanthomas5883]

@@TheBeautyProtocole Awesome! Do you think you will do it again now that you feel confident in this doctor?

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@susanthomas5883 No I wouldn't ever have an ablative laser like this again. Once bitten twice shy. However, I have had other milder laser treatments since to keep my skin in tip top shape.

[@chem3066]

Your neck looks great now

[@terrytaylor499]

What a great video Sheena thanks for sharing your journey and I’m so glad you got compensated and were able to recover ❤️

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hey Terry darling. I was SUPER lucky that I got compensation and that I found a fantastic Skin Specialist who was able to help. Unfortunately, as you will know, this type of case is becoming more common and compensation is becoming less likely. ❤️😘

[@aliciamullaney6634]

Thank you for doing this video and keeping it real.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Alicia. Thank you. Yes things do happen despite believing we are in good hands. Enjoy your weekend. Sheena 🌸

[@lesliefoldy2767]

I had Fraxel Dual with a board-certified dermatologist. An hour before treatment they gave me ativan (lorazepam), 2 Percocets, 4 Promethazine (anti-nausea), and then applied numbing cream. The only part that bothered me was doing the forehead. I can't even imagine getting Fraxel with just numbing cream! Always, always go to a dermatologist or plastic surgeon.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

WOW Leslie! You really got the full treatment. Are you in the USA? I can tell you it WAS painful with just the numbing cream! Never again!

[@rehab2see]

Thank you very much for sharing your experience. I know it must have been very difficult. Please know you are helping others.

[@marycole3205]

Great informative video and how blessed are you it wasnt your face but it must have been a terrible experience shows you must do your homework on what and who you get these treatments from looking at you now all looks fabulous and just hope there are no permanent scars. Thank you for sharing am sure you have helped many women by this clip.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Yes I was soooo lucky it was only my neck and chest....My neck has never been the same even after the restorative treatment. You have to be VERY careful when choosing who to go to 🌸💖

[@lynndupree1205]

The KEY to successful laser procedures is finding a Board Certified dermatologist or plastic surgeon to do the treatment. I believe that doctors who are affiliated with a university hospital are top notch. I sought treatment from a plastic surgeon affiliated with a major university in the US. I also did diligence in researching her credentials and references. I won't trust my face to just anybody! My procedure turned out well for a full face fraxel dual laser procedure. I can already see improvement after only a couple of weeks. And remember, the skin continues to remodel for six months, until it reaches maximum effect. As for using a fraxel laser on the delicate neck skin, my doctor says it is not advisable. Instead, she recommends a series of less invasive procedures such as Clear & Brilliant or other medi-spa level treatments.

[@lisaring2729]

Great video, many thanks.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Thanks Lisa. I really wanted to share this. 🌸💖

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

I’m 48 and so glad I found your channel! So sorry what you went through but thank goodness you are restored!

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Julia. Thank you so much. I am so cautious now and have a wonderful Dermatologist who really is an expert. Have a wonderful week 💖

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

@@TheBeautyProtocole yes! You look incredible…would have no idea what you went through!💗💗💗

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@JuliaShalomJordan Aww thank you Julia 🥰💖

[@bamagirl9499]

I am so sorry you went through all of that - what a nightmare - so so scary. I have had one Pixel 8 RF Treatment and love the results so far. I am scheduled for my second treatment in about 3 weeks. And recommended another treatment one month after that for a total of 3 treatments and then once a year after that. I have very young looking skin for being 54 years old and just recently started noticing fine lines, larger pores, some small wrinkles around my eyes and my neck is starting to show my age - so I am looking for anything to slow down the aging of my skin. I have started a very good skin routine and now I am doing Pixel 8 which I did not find uncomfortable at all. I had numbing cream for one hour prior to my treatment and I have a very high pain tolerance. That day and night my neck was very hot and very red. The second day my face was almost back to normal skin color but my neck still looked blotchy red but no longer hot. By the third day all of the redness was gone. I was covering my skin with HA5 by Skin Medica and it is AMAZING. I am about a week out from the procedure and I can see that the fine lines are gone, my pores are already smaller and my neck looks so much better too - I was told that I would not really see results for 3 weeks so I cannot wait for the 3 week mark to get here. I am very excited about Pixel 8 and I think with the right provider and someone that is qualified and has your best interest at heart, this is an amazing treatment. I am very happy and just hate to see what you went through - it is infuriating that someone could do that to you - BUT, your skin is amazing and that is why I am here - I want to learn everything you know because your skin is flawless - thanks for sharing your experience so more people will seek out professionals when it comes to their skin - especially their face.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi darling. Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful experience. You are so right. There are some amazing treatment options out there and some fantastic providers. I have actually had a couple of Pixel treatments but that was probably around 4-5yrs ago. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Pixel. So little down time and an amazing 'refresh' result. I bet the Pixel 8 is even better than what I tried. The other day I had a PicoWay for some small pigmentation marks on my face to try to keep on top of them. It is definitely a case of worse before better as the pigmented areas darken then will lighten over the next 3 weeks. I will do a VIDEO about this treatment. Thank you again for taking the time to comment and for subscribing. Enjoy the rest of your day. Sheena 🌸 x

[@LearnMore288]

Thank you, this was extremely helpful!! I’m so sorry this happened to you.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi there. Thanks so much hun. It was a nightmare. In saying that, Fraxel can give amazing results but the risks are real and I would never have it done again. Have a wonderful week 💕

[@cindybecker4725]

Wow! So sorry you went through this. I have been wanting to have a laser but I have been a little scared due to things like this. There is so many Medi Spas where I live that offer these type of treatments. I found a doctors around 2 hours away that does Fraxel and a couple of other lasers. I had the first treatment and so far so good.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Cindy. I'm so pleased you did your research and found a doctor qualified to do this treatment. If done well, this type of laser gives excellent results. Sheena 💖💖

[@brittbc6743]

Ive had a few fraxel treatments...not on my neck though ...I hate the down time ,but the results are great...have you tried broad band light treatments? That's what I have now..little to no down time and the results are amazing

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi there. So great that you've had good results with fraxel. I was looking forward to the same but unfortunately the person doing the treatment was 'over enthusiastic' which has put me off trying it again 😕 Thanks for the info on the broad band light treatment option. I'll definitely look into it. Love that there is little to no downtime 👍🏻Enjoy your Sunday 😊

[@annemiekepritchard4619]

Great video. I’m sure those watching appreciate the first hand experience, (although sounds/looks like a nightmare) that you have shared. There is so much hype/marketing around these subjects and rarely if something goes wrong is it documented. You mentioned this is not a video knocking these types of treatments as you have had success with others but it is worth being mindful and following your guidelines. 💕

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Thanks Annemieke. You are absolutely right. For sure laser treatments can produce some fantastic results but they need to be in the right hands. 💖

[@stacylbrewer]

Thanks for the info and the warning. Burns are some of the most painful injuries to deal with, so you are a real trooper! The clinic that did this to you should go out of business bc what they did to you is disgusting. I have decided this is not for me, even if I find the best dermatologist or plastic surgeon.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Stacy. Yes it was extremely painful and I spent each night on google trying to find out if what I was experiencing was normal....It was very stressful...But it was hard to find definitive information so I thought it was important to share this. It's better to be warned and prepared. I would NEVER have Fraxel again regardless of the operator. Wishing you a wonderful day 🌸

[@airbnbadventureswithjeannie]

Me too not for Selfie Girl!

[@Tricia2023]

Sadly we have to go thru pain and discoloration to get our beautiful skin ! All lasers our burning our skin off ! It can be scary to say the least ! But the results our amazing 🤩 Sorry you weren’t informed properly on what you were going to experience but your skin looks amazing ❤

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Tricia. It sure can be scary. Some lasers are more gentle so that's what I prefer now though as you say, there is generally some swelling or redness afterwards. Wishing you an amazing weekend. 💖

[@amalie.eugenie]

I had it too at 27 and it really aged me...I am now 29 and have very deep nasolabial folds (is it called that?) and marionette folds and it has dryed and thinned my skin in general. I had it for large pores. My other dermatologist said he thinks it is irresponsible how fast the fraxel laser is used when there are softer options. He said he would never use it on a person under 40, because the way it reduces the pores is that it sucks them inwards in the direction of the face, because it shortens the collagen! But this can now cause me to get wrinkles earlier. And that is what happened. Warning signs for me could have been: - no checking out my skin beforehand except for a 5 second look. - no questions asked about my skin - doctor mentioned only emotional reasons why this is a great treatment (e.g. "I have it too all the time", "every person on the street that I would do the treatment to would look better afterwards"), but didn't explain what the laser does to the skin - when I told him that I'm using sunscreen daily in spring, summer and autumn said he thinks that this is overexaggerated. But I think it is common knowledge that UV-light does great damage to the skin - did the treatment in May

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Oh darling I am so sorry this happened to you. Yes it has definitely effected my skin where I had it done too. The skin fragile now. I have had other treatments on that area since to help with pigmentation and the redness that was left. There are some amazing, less aggressive laser treatments now that are really excellent but for sure who is providing the treatment and advice is super important. Sheena xx

[@granthutchins2016]

You made the right choice to leave your face alone. You don’t need anything done there; no need to risk damage when you are already a stunner as-is. Thank your parents for passing along those genes.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Thank you Grant. That is very kind. Yes my parents both had great skin. Mine has got a little more damaged than theirs (they were English) as I grew up in New Zealand. The sun is so harsh here but I have been a sunscreen wearer for years. Sheena

[@laplace1623]

How much time did it take to heal and u got ur original skin tone I had co2 fractional laser it's been 3 months and I have still major hyperpigmentation ..

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi hun. How are you going with your recovery after CO2 Fractional Laser? My treatment was a disaster because I was 'over cooked' so my pigmentation had to be treated with another laser. It took months to settle.....I hope your experience is better. 🥰

[@pnevlud]

Question I am at week 8 Apparently I had a festoon which this treatment has left me with a small lump of edema on one cheek 🤦‍♀️ lymphatic drainage, jade rolling, ice and pressing on it will not get it out. 🤦‍♀️ maybe in time? Did that ever happen to you and second question, my neck and chest looks kinda waxy Wondering if that will settle down ? Did that happen to you ? Thanks ❤

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi there....Oh no! Have you been back to the person who performed the laser? Is this person a Dermatologist? This didn't happen to me. I had fraxel laser on my neck and chest only (not my face). Yes I guess a more waxy, smooth, hydrated, refreshed skin look was the end result but for you, after only 8weeks, I think you will find this will settle down ❤

[@pnevlud]

Yes I am now at 11 weeks and it is starting to settle down. Apparently the neck and chest take the longest to heal ❤

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@pnevlud That's great news! Yes neck and chest skin behaves quite differently. I'm sure that will settle down too ❤

[@AA-ct7cb]

You look gorgeous!

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Thank you. That is so kind. Have a great weekend.

[@sharonirons9828]

Without first viewing your video, thank goodness my treatment turned out well as I had good advice from my dermatologist. My derm doc does not do any comsmetic procedures, but he gave me 3 names of local anti aging clinics that he trusted. Why? Because he told me do not let a clinician of any sort touch you. He told me if anyone other than a doctor preforms this service, run for the door. Like you I did experience some pain during the procedure, in hindsight I would have not been so brave and medicated myself prior and have a friend drive me home. My skin was ugly for about 5 days. Would I do it again? Not likely, but it has only been 4 weeks, and you don't ask a mom with a newborn if she is ready for another baby so soon. I just had a follow up with the doc who did the procedure, and the only 'complication" I have is a bit of hyperpigmentation and she prescribed hydroquinone. I also advise people to watch lots of these videos before they take the plunge!

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Sharon. That is interesting. It is worrying that this industry is not well regulated meaning almost anyone can get their hands on these machines. I would never have a treatment such as this again either. Hyperpigmentation is not that easy to remedy. I also wouldn't use hydroquinone due to bad reports on this product. I may be having a moment of paranoia but you may want to do some research of your own. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Hopefully the result overall is great. Take care. Sheena 💖

[@Victoria-nh9sp]

My god...thanks for this...ive also had a procedure go wrong

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

O heck! What happened? If you feel comfortable it’s great to share your story for other viewers. Thanks x

[@chrishnah]

Not just over 50. I was 32 when I had it done. Got it for acne scars and it aged my face and neck 10 years. Look at the reviews on real self. Has happened to,a lot of women.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Oh no! I’m so sorry to hear that. Even though I had restorative treatments to remedy the discolouration the skin has never quite been the same. Since I have had mild treatments to help with collagen and skin tone. I go to a leading Dermatologist and I know I am in safe hands. I hope you find a solution to help hun though I know it all becomes scary after a terrible experience. Thank you for sharing your story. Xx

[@blakeryan3771]

hey i’m so sorry this happened. i’m curious where you went to to get it done. i think more people should be made aware of the types of people doing this and causing damage.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@blakeryan3771 Hi Blake. It was here in Auckland at a Clinic but the nurse who did it left some time ago. I don't know where she currently works.

[@dualscreengrant]

I've scheduled laser procedures for my acne scars, and I should probably be worried. Are there any red flags to look for on the day of the procedure? I think my attending dermatologist knows what he's doing. I'm just worried that I could arrive there to find out that a nurse, technician or medical student could be the person who operates the lasers. In that case, would it be better to leave before it starts? They would probably charge a cancellation fee, but that would be only a minor inconvenience if it means avoiding something that would permanently disfigured me.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

I completely understand that you are concerned about this. There's no way I'd let a trainee use laser on me. You might find that your dermatologist comes in for the consultation and will advise the nurse which settings to use if he's not doing the laser himself. When I had my misadventure there was no dermatologist onsite (even though it was a medical practice) so the nurse was left to her own devices (and she was experienced). I now go to a dedicated Skin Specialist who ALWAYS consults prior to a treatment. If he does not do it himself he clearly advises the nurses which settings to use. The practice is so great. He helped to fix the original botched job. Good luck sweetie. Please express your concerns when you attend your appointment. Less is best xx

[@dualscreengrant]

The good news is that I called their office again and found out that the attending dermatologist will be present during the procedure. He's had good judgement about everything else, so I think he knows what he's talking about. He recommended TCA cross, and that turned out well for improving my icepick scars.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@dualscreengrant Fantastic news. I'm sure you'' get great results 🥰

[@pamelasprings6723]

Wow after reading all these comments I guess I will just put up with aging skin. I am 75 and can cover most of my problems with makeup but why do I care so much how I look? I ask myself that question at this age. I am not in a relationship and do not want to be as I don't want to take care of a man that might have medical issues. Plus my kids think I am beautiful the way I am. I really only care what they think. I just plan on enjoying life and as I take care of my skin, just let nature take its course.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Pamela. I love your honesty about not wanting to take care of a man who may have medical issues. 🤣Truth. This is the age group we are in! As long as you are happy with how you look that is just perfect. There are no rules. It's very personal and its important that we do things for ourselves and not others. Sometimes people look in the mirror and don't find it reflects how they feel. Maybe age has made them look permanently tired, grumpy or sad. We are so lucky to have choices now to help with reflect how we feel. Enjoy being beautiful you. 💖

[@thecricketshow001]

I did Fraxel on face and neck two days ago. I had numbing cream applied and then the procedure. I did not expect this to be that painful. Honestly, the pain varied between 7-9/10 depending on the area. I was thinking n the verge of tears and my whole body was shaking after. My recovery seems normal so far but only time will tell. Sorry for your experience, I’m now a lil more nervous about mine 😵‍💫

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

I'm sure you'll be fine and that you'll enjoy your new fresh, rejuvenated skin. I do know what you mean about the pain though...Trouble is you find yourself suddenly committed and can hardly run out the room half way through the treatment right?! ❤

[@tl9113]

How did your recovery go? Was it worth it?

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@tl9113 Personally I wouldn't do it again. I hope @thecricketshow001 has had a better overall experience.

[@daniellthompson559]

What type of laser treatment did you receive after to help with the pigmentation?

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Daniell. Good question. It was the Excel V Laser which was used to treat both red and brown pigmentation left from the burn / over treatment. I would guess that since this, there will be more up to date lasers as the technology is changing quickly 🌸🌸

[@homemadebykathycriniti4847]

Is this the same laser as Alma CO2 Hybrid ?

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

No I believe CO2 laser treatment is different from a Fraxal laser (which is what I had).

[@zsuzsuspetals]

I got fraxel on the back of my hands. It hurt so bad during the session. I only had numbing cream on. No medication for the pain. Then on day 3, the itching started. For 2 solid weeks the itch was unbearable. It would wake me up at night. Then it would go away but if my hands brushed against something, it would start again. My question is why do they do so many passes? I had 8 back and forth passes as well. I think starting with 4 would have been better. See how someone reacts to the laser before going so intense. I won't be doing it again.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

WOW! That is awful. I really feel for you. Yes even with the numbing cream it is very painful. I had no medication for pain either. I guess the recommendation is to do 8 passes but the person doing the treatment should assess the skin type thoroughly before contemplating fraxel as an option and how many passes etc. I hope the back of your hands eventually recovered ok. Sheena xx

[@zsuzsuspetals]

@@TheBeautyProtocole I recovered, thanks for asking 😃 But I won't do it again. She said they recommend 3. But to me if you want repeat customers, maybe don't torture them while they're there, lol. I'm all about beauty treatments but I'm at the point where there is only so much torture I'm willing to put myself through. 😮‍💨

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@zsuzsuspetals 🤣 I hear you! I had an Ultraformer treatment several years ago. It was so hideous they took bets on whether I'd go for another round. I did but never again! Ugh! 🤣

[@Jimmytimmy1111]

I regret getting fraxel. Im 39 and got it because i had a dark spot on my cheek and some less bothersome freckles/ tiny sun spots. The provider made it sound like it would be no big deal in terms of down time. No. I looked like i had been beaten up with 2 black eyes and severe snake skin for 4-5 days. It itched and in my sleep i scratched a giant scab off my face and this left a scar. Seriously- this should have been discussed… i ended up sleeping with mittens on my hands for a week and not at their direction. 6 months later- i still have a discoloration on my cheek where i scratched in my sleep and my under eyes have permanent dark circles. Major issue as well- they numbed me with lidocaine all over my face- the nurse doing the laser applied it then said oh this might make you feel “woozy” (which it did) and then had me sign the papers for informed consent. I understand that its on me to do my homework and research prior to- and i did , or so I thought . The whole thing has been a nightmare

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@Jimmytimmy1111 Oh no! I am so sorry to hear this. What an awful experience for you. Hopefully you may be able to get some treatment to help with the dark circles and spot at a later stage when you feel up to it. Sending hugs 🤗🤗

[@nancyhamilton1993]

Did you have Fraxel or Fraxel duo?

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Nancy. It was Fraxel hun.

[@Victoria-nh9sp]

Trying find what laser u did use.. nowhere in videos

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Victoria. I’m sorry that there is no reference to the laser. It was Fraxel (Fractional laser). It can be very effective for wrinkles, discolouration etc but in the wrong hands it can cause burns and other issues. Sheena xx

[@gc834]

I am 4 weeks out from the same procedure. The results are terrible. I have scars in the honeycomb pattern of the laser. My left under eye has permanent edema. Thai was done by a reputable plastic surgeon and nurse.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

I am so so sorry you have had a bad experience. I really sympathise with you. Have you gone back and if so what are they saying? Sending a huge hug and hoping that you get significant improvement 🤗❤

[@gc834]

@@TheBeautyProtocole the doc is now offering free Botox and a micro needling procedure that’s supposed to increase moisture. I see them 9-2. They say this is totally normal and to get more Botox so I don’t see wrinkles 😏

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@gc834 Hi darling....oh really? Wow ok. Has the botox and micro needling helped? 🥰

[@gc834]

@@TheBeautyProtocole she did not do the micro needling as promised. Botox offered no change.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@gc834 Good luck sweetie 💖

[@beyond50skin]

I had full ablative CO2 and would not do it again!

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Did you? Thanks for you comment. I think often these treatments are promoted as being innocuous until they’re not! 🌸

[@JW-bh2ud]

@Beyond50Skin may I ask why? I'm 53, considering getting a c02 myself

[@beyond50skin]

@@JW-bh2ud Of course! I had ablative CO2 ERbium Yag at 54 (fall 2019). For reference I am caucasian, fair, Fitz II, eczema prone skin with history of moderate sun exposure. My skin was dull with fine lines, the deepest lines over my top lip area, an ideal candidate for this procedure. The reason I would not have it done again is multifold. It was a painful recovery. I also experience pruritus (terrible itching) during recovery (not everyone does) and scratched myself by accident in my sleep (I still have a faint scar). I found out much later when I requested my medical records that my provider let his resident student do the procedure and he must have gone too deep. It took over a year for the redness to fade. I still have residual fine web-like hypo pigmentation lines over my lip and on the sides of my cheeks. A bit like a fine cobwebbing. With follow-up fraxel laser treatments and time it's fading. My dermatologist (a different one! Dr Sherene Idriss) is doing the follow up fraxel, IPL and RF microneedling procedures to help fade the residual redness under my chin (now gone) and reduce the appearence of the hypopigmentation. I certainly don't want to scare you away from having cosmetic procedures because I ultimately have a much more youthful appearance and appreciate the final outcome. But I wish I has been more prepared for the cost and the reality of the recovery and how things can and do go wrong on occasion. I sure hope my experience is helpful to you. I've also done a video on my laser journey if you care to check it out. I dont mean to promote my channel on someone else's channel but you might find it helpful and that is why we women are on YT, to help one and other. Best wishes - Cindy

[@JW-bh2ud]

Thank you so much Cindy for your extensive reply. I'm a Fitz 1 and want to know the good And bad. I will watch the video

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

@@beyond50skin WOW Cindy that was a long process to undo the initial damage. I feel for you having gone through something similar myself. 💖

[@honeythetoypoodle4784]

That's why this procedure should be administered by doctors and surgeons , not in the wellness.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Yes absolutely right. Actually it was a nurse who did this but these procedures should at least be under strict supervision by skin specialist Drs. 🌸

[@jt8142]

Laser resurfacing should always be done by an experienced and board certified dermatologist or plastic surgeon, not by a nurse or other “medi spa” personnel.

[@chrishnah]

The lasers are inherently damaging. I have read reviews of women who had this done by a Dr and skin was still ruined. They posted before and after.

[@MsMagick]

Good Lord.... you DID dodge a bullet by not getting your face done! There really are some dodgy operators out there ( been on the receiving end myself), and I don't think it is commonly known that ACC will cover it. There is always the HDC as well.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Carol....Yes I am totally thankful for my silver lining! It could have been so much worse...Oh no! You have experienced a bad treatment too? I'm so sorry to hear that. You're right about the ACC cover but that can be a battle too. It's not guaranteed. I guess the providers don't mention it because they don't want to be on the ACC's radar. Have a great day hun 🌸💖

[@sylvain123]

Hello 🙋‍♀️I'm hearing alarm bells and I'm only at the beginning. You saw 'a nurse' enquiring about Fraxel? Oh no 🥺

[@sylvain123]

Wait did you say a nurse did 8 as in eight passes!? You poor thing 😥

[@sylvain123]

Sorry I'm commenting as the video plays🙏 I've just finished watching it all. I am so sorry this happened to you. I'm really glad you didn't get your face done. In Australia we have so many problems with qualifications and faulty/faux advertising of skin procedures and dodgy dermatologists and plastic surgeon's. I'm glad you were able to get the damage reduced. Thanks for sharing your experience 💖💐

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Sylvain. Thanks for the giggle. I love that you commented as you watched the video. 😁 I guess the problem is we don’t know what we don’t know and we expect to be in good hands with qualified medical professionals. I really did dodge a bullet by not getting my face done and TBH my neck / upper chest skin has never been the same. The regulations are very loose. In NZ the volume of Accident Compensation claims are really growing rapidly. I’m currently in the GC visiting my in-laws and enjoying some spectacular weather. So nice to be able to travel to Aus again. Take care 🌸💖

[@susannajones8810]

Wow your story sounds horrible and traumatic. Thank you for sharing your story and being so vulnerable. Another reminder that we need to tread carefully in this area. Would love to hear about other treatments you have experienced and were you happy with the results ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi darling. For sure it wasn't a fun experience. I guess what is really awful is that there isn't much information documented about when things go wrong and why. Yes I will talk about my other treatments which have low down time and very nice results. Enjoy your weekend hun ❤️🌸❤️

[@johnames6430]

she overdid it thinking that would be better, these people are really dumb. You have to be asking them questions every step of the way. It's like if you need your leg amputated you have to write with a marker "not this one" on the other leg. That's the level of incompetence that's out there. Never give them a chance to ruin you.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Thanks for the giggle John. That's exactly what she did. There is a tendency to trust professionals but the more questions asked the better.

[@sambistabeauty]

okay but I think we all know that this is part of the process... so we have to be careful because you can get 'burned.'

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Sure thing. I went to a reputable practice but still specific skin specialist practices are best. I thought I was careful but I learned my lesson the hard way.

[@ann6406]

I find that these professionals dont take responsibility for their errors. ..it up to these cosmetic professionals to know what their doing ?

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Hi Ann. We should be able to rely on these professionals to give us the best advice and to give safe treatments. Now I do a lot of my own research about treatments and the providers. Sheena x

[@beecee921]

easy question...experienced MD ONLY!

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Yes!

[@elizabethwilk9615]

Lasers can cause. More melisma or brown spots for certain skin. My dermatology won’t do it in me instead she prefers Micro-needling or peels.

[@TheBeautyProtocole]

Yes absolutely right Elizabeth. Another great reason to do to a Dermatologist. Have a great weekend 🌺

[@rhonda6791]

What do you think of rf micro needling?

[@chantalforgues8132]

NOT TO BE PERFORMED BY A NURSE!!!!!! (HIGHLY EXPERIENCED EITHER!!!!)