The RMS Mülheim wreck - what remains there?

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@tempus_fugit7366
@tempus_fugit7366 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see how thick some of the steel plates are and just how bent and twisted they've become from the power of the sea. In another 10 or 20 years or so, there will be even less to see, the relentless, eternal sea scrubbing all traces away with the tides. Thank you for sharing this.
@General.Longstreet
@General.Longstreet 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating! I have not heard of this wreck before .
@DoomsJ
@DoomsJ 2 жыл бұрын
I adore the b4 and after pictures. It's so cool.
@aac993
@aac993 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. It is incredible that ocean waves can shred a steel ship of this size into so many bits.
@cmsracing
@cmsracing 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of destruction is amazing, the awesome power of the sea.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning the huge hole on the vessel's starboard side - some Mulheim wreck KZbin commentators have stated it to have come from collision with rocks. I take a different view. Firstly, the ship clearly hit the land on it port side and the hole is on the starboard side facing the sea. Early wreck photos suggest the wreck didn't spin around after running aground. A sizeable gash in the hull caused by encountering land based objects would almost certainly have to be on the side of the ship that hit the land rather than on the seaward side. Secondly, as mentioned in the video, the hole is really neat suggesting it was cut by hand, possibly using a flame cutter. Damage caused by boulder collision would more likely show the steel plating mangled inwards in the direction of impact, around the edges of the gash. As the video shows, there is no bending of the metal on the starboard side of the Mulheim.
@zm321
@zm321 2 жыл бұрын
This ship apparently sunk because 'the chief officer - who had been on watch at the time - had caught his trousers in the lever of the chair when trying to get up, causing him to fall and rendering him unconcious' By the time he regained conciousness, RMS Mulheim was already bearing down on the shoreline'. You couldn't make it up 🙄
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
You really couldn’t make it up could you? In fact if you did make it up and submitted it as a movie script it would be rejected on the grounds of being too unrealistic. If however you introduced the idea of aliens landing on the ship and taking out the crew and then realising they had no idea how to drive a ship as they didn’t have water or ships on their planet - that would be much more believable!
@zm321
@zm321 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 It would make a great script for a Carry On film!
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
@@zm321 Carry On Popeye! Happy Christmas!
@zm321
@zm321 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 🤣
@stebishopnomad1838
@stebishopnomad1838 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video I've always wondered where that engine was aswel. It's a nice straight 8 as we mechanics call them.
@DavidHildred
@DavidHildred 2 жыл бұрын
18:06 such a good life-lesson from a humbled wreck.
@anthonypattison5180
@anthonypattison5180 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video. I was exploring it the other day while on holiday. It's good to hear you explain what certain things are. I got lots of photos and I've been comparing them to what you explain.
@ericlakota1847
@ericlakota1847 2 жыл бұрын
That is neat I like when they leave some wrecks to be recovered by sea
@colvinator1611
@colvinator1611 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I would have thought though that after all this time the wreck would have been cut up and removed. Maybe access is the problem. The engine has been removed and then just left. Could be to get the oil out as the sump is missing. Thanks a lot. Colin ( Yorkshire )
@thomasberrien1855
@thomasberrien1855 2 жыл бұрын
Round things on lower crankcase are crankcase explosion reliefs.
@EngineEngineer
@EngineEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
False, this is a four stroke engine, only large two stroke diesels are at risk of crankcase explosion. They are inspection hatches only
@newjerseybill3521
@newjerseybill3521 2 жыл бұрын
@@EngineEngineer That is completely wrong, your can just as easily have a bearing failure generating heat to ignite any oil mist in the crankcase causing a crankcase explosion in a 4 cycle engine as a 2 cycle engine.
@Shoorit
@Shoorit 2 жыл бұрын
@@EngineEngineerhow could you be so sure about something wrong?
@ozone-xv7hk
@ozone-xv7hk Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@Viking88Power
@Viking88Power 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@JohnDavies-cn3ro
@JohnDavies-cn3ro 2 жыл бұрын
Quite interested to see this film; I encountered the wreck some years ago, when there was a lot more of it still intact - not too many months after it had happened. Is this the one a diver friend told me of, when the throttle lever got stuck up the helmsman's trouser leg? (Not sure if that's the right rank, but he did mention throttles and trouser legs!)
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the one John! I've struggled to picture the trouser leg thing causing this disaster but it is the official line the enquiry seem to have taken. I can think of more believable explanations but that would only be naughty speculation on my part!
@davidb3172
@davidb3172 2 жыл бұрын
The hawse pipe is for the stern anchor chain or cable. The bollards are bitts. The green engineroom pipes may be gunmetal for sea water cooling. The chromed shaft is the rudder post and would have been attached to the steering gear.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
There has been some debate here about whether the engine I found on the beach was the main power unit or just for the generator? I'm guessing this centres around the question of whether this engine could be big enough to propel the ship. From what I saw on the beach I can't be 100% certain but nevertheless I strongly believe it WAS the main power unit that drove the propellors! I laid out some reasons in my response to Rick Sadler's post here 3 months ago. I am happy to accept though that it may have also been used to generate the main electrical power for the ship too in the same way as a car engine provides for both. In summary: For sure the ship was driven by the Deutz SBV 8M 628 Diesel engine as stated by me, Miles Beavis, Frantic 156 and Wikipedia. It was rated at 2039BHP and managed 13 knots which is a believable expectation for an engine of this size. Wouldn't an engine of this output be an overkill for just a generator? It's hardly a cruise ship with cabins, a dance floor and entertainment lighting! I do a visual comparison of the engine on the beach with an internet photo of an undamaged SBV8M628 at time 12:11 on the video and it does appear to be an exact likeness. For sure there was no larger engine laying on the beach or in the engine room - that would be impossible to miss! It makes no sense that they would take a larger engine off the beach and leave a smaller one. You can see here on UltraWhammy's really interesting early video of the salvage operation that they used a very lightweight zip line to get the car parts off it - no way would that lift a engine bigger than the one I found! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXjLin2jnrKbpNk Finally, though the remains of the engine laying on the beach looks rather small for the size of the Mülheim it did have its sump and the cam-case removed along with some large peripherals which looked like the exhaust and turbo unit. It was quite a beast in it's full garb! If anyone can throw any further light on this please do post your comments here. I would welcome any corrections if I've got it wrong!
@carmadme
@carmadme 2 жыл бұрын
The large engine is most certainly the propulsion engine In your video what you identify as the camshaft and casing is in-fact an inline 6 diesel although I couldn't see any identifying marks so am unsure exactly what it was or how much power it produced But this would have been her auxiliary engine it's not very big I don't think anymore than about 4L I can also tell you as of summer 2022 very little to nothing has changed since your visit
@vtfeurope4363
@vtfeurope4363 2 жыл бұрын
@@carmadme Probably the engine for the bowthruster.
@Triggernlfrl
@Triggernlfrl 2 жыл бұрын
2000hp is the main engine for this kind of ship. Those things on the picture of engine crankcase hatches are crankcase breather.
@jamessssss6611
@jamessssss6611 2 жыл бұрын
The crank case doors are to prevent a exploding block. Pressure relief.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I didn't know about that feature but it makes perfect sense!
@EngineEngineer
@EngineEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
False, this is a four stroke engine, only large two stroke diesels are at risk of crankcase explosion.
@jamessssss6611
@jamessssss6611 2 жыл бұрын
@@EngineEngineer thank you, I'm a Nav guy....I try not to pay to much attention to the stuff in the basement. Merry Christmas my friend!!!
@CATASTEROID934
@CATASTEROID934 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 Oil mist generated by failing/failed bearings, and blocked lubrication channels causing localised hot spots can create explosive atmospheres inside the crankcase, oil mist sensors in combination with RPM and intake air/fuel flow sensors can help detect hazardous situations before the powerplant throws a rod across the engine room. The UK's national maritime agency published a series of reports in the last 10-15 years on ferries and light cargo vessels with Volvo engines of reasonably similar displacement in the last decade which suffered engine room fires relating to thrown rods and oil mist explosions, and these reports are fairly informative about the nature of these machines.
@jamessssss6611
@jamessssss6611 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Noisy, greasy spot that's way to hot...I like looking out windows!!
@OfficeofImageArchaeology
@OfficeofImageArchaeology 2 жыл бұрын
Mother Nature, turning big things into little things. Shredding and reducing this ship into easily digestible chunks until it has been entirely consumed and erased.
@BLUESKY-zt1nv
@BLUESKY-zt1nv 2 жыл бұрын
you can see the kitchen room if you go inside ..one room was pitch black ,i would not go in without a torch and the floor is at a very steep incline ..
@Fantic156
@Fantic156 2 жыл бұрын
The wording of the SBV8M is actually SBV 8M 628 Very interesting video, thanks .. 😜
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
OK - '8M' as oppose to 'V8'! Many thanks.
@fredericcolombier5380
@fredericcolombier5380 2 жыл бұрын
Wrecks of stranded ships that do not end up sliding and sinking and straddle the coast are usually completely destroyed by the elements during winters and storms along the coast in question.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 Жыл бұрын
My brother has just paid a visit - not much has changed since my visit in 2020. This one is stubbornly refusing to go!
@perstaffanlundgren
@perstaffanlundgren 2 жыл бұрын
The upstanding rotating thing as actually powered and I used for hauling the motring lines in and aot.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
That would make sense given the size of the ship - thanks for that observation! I expect the mooring ropes would be quite heavy. I just couldn't see any ancillary motors or controls that would suggest they were powered. Maybe the motor and cabling sits inside or below? I found this definition of a pedestal roller on a marine tech website: "A roller fairlead usually operating in a horizontal plane. Its function is to change the direction of lead of a mooring or of other line on a deck." This too makes sense given the location of the mooring rope bollards located on the opposite side of the ship.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering why the sump, camcase and other large peripherals were removed from the engine. Could it be that the salvage team were in the process of dismantling it on the beach in the hope of bringing it up in smaller pieces before realising that was never going to work?
@martynwatson4929
@martynwatson4929 2 жыл бұрын
Sumps, cam/rocker covers and manifolds, generally made of fragile light aluminium castings are the first thing the sea removes.
@CATASTEROID934
@CATASTEROID934 2 жыл бұрын
The more brittle castings are usually the first thing to disappear, there's the remains of an E-boat that was surrendered post-war that shook it's tow and was dashed on the rocks, the corroded and pitted pistons and crankshaft are still there but the entire cylinder block and associated components have disintegrated around it and vanished leaving only the tougher forged steel and more corrosion-resistant alloy components.
@rrankcow9590
@rrankcow9590 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment before you said it but that hole was definitely cut out afterwards!
@wyomingadventures
@wyomingadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I'm fascinated with ships and wreaks. You did an amazing job with the video. Subscribed. I totally agree with you about God too.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... we'd all be pretty much in the same state as the Mülheim without the saving grace of our God!
@ricksadler797
@ricksadler797 2 жыл бұрын
That in-line 8 might be a genny for ships power ??
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
OK I think I may have the definitive answer here! The ship was powered by the 8-cylinder in-line Deutz SBV8M-628 as mentioned by Miles and also me in the video. The photo of the undamaged one I put up in the video at 12:11 shows the exact likeness with the one I found on the beach. However, the cam shaft was missing and I now think I incorrectly identified it in my video at 16:37. On closer inspection I think what I saw there was in fact the 6-cylinder diesel generator engine. Unfortunately, it was in the distance so is a bit grainy - I only spotted it retrospectively looking through my video footage. Both seem quite small given the size of the ship but I guess they're probably very efficient.
@vtfeurope4363
@vtfeurope4363 2 жыл бұрын
To big to be the generator for this seize of ships.
@taylorebenguard6998
@taylorebenguard6998 2 жыл бұрын
you deserve more subs
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
You're too kind!
@proseache
@proseache 2 жыл бұрын
The winch on the poop is for mooring ropes. The drum on the anchor winch is a completely different design that hooks into the chain links...
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this David - you inspired me to do some research into anchor chains vs cables! It seems that chains have certain advantages over using cables but they are heavier (which I suppose is useful being an anchor!) but maybe more expensive particularly with the equipment needed to haul it in. The question is: What did the Müheim have? I think it was a cable. My reasoning is found on the view I took of the back deck at time 6:46 in the video. You can clearly see a drum with a chunky steel cable still wrapped around it aligned directly above the top of the anchor chute. This is the hole that led directly to the anchor housing at the back of the ship (see at 6:59 on the video). The anchor had been cut off and is still lying on the beach as seen at 7:20 and it's not a huge anchor. Given that the Mülheim spent half of its time sailing up and down the Rheine that's not too surprising! It's not conclusive, but from this pre-wreck photo taken of the back of the Mülheim while it was sailing on the Rheine my best guess is that the anchor was attached by a cable rather than by a chain: www.shipspotting.com/photos/2557688 What do you think?
@proseache
@proseache 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 Yes I agree, it seems this winch had multiple roles, mooring port or starboard lines and a cable anchor, the drum certainly looks to have cable still on it? I was an A.B. in the merchant navy and never came across this multiple role idea or a stern anchor, come to that...Peace.
@SuperPirate100
@SuperPirate100 2 жыл бұрын
The shiny shaft stuck up is the rudder and it's shaft
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Ah of course! I assume the shinny length would be for its bearing and the darker bit sticking up would have pointed downward with the rudder attached. There's no sign of the rudder blade so it was probably cut off for the bronze. I'm surprised the salvage crew didn't just cut it off while it was still attached to the ship - must have been quite a job getting that shaft out! It's long way from the wreck now. You can see the rudder and propeller in this early photo. Notice how upright the ship is early on too! (and nice paintwork still) www.alamy.com/stock-photo-rms-mulheim-shipwrecked-near-lands-end-cornwall-uk-23272902.html
@wyomingadventures
@wyomingadventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 wow the picture of the ship looks like it wasn't very old when it wreaked.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
@@wyomingadventures It was only 4 years old. That Deutz Diesel engine didn't get to clock up many nautical miles!
@BuranStrannik
@BuranStrannik 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 Rudder is actually still there, buried in the rocks, top edge can be clearly seen on video. Sticking end went up into the ship. Shiny part might be bronze or other non ferrous alloy, part of the bearing
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuranStrannik This really interests me - I've tried to find the rudder on the video but can't see it anywhere! Could you please tell me what the video time is where it appears and where you can see the top edge sticking out? Thanks
@lookout101
@lookout101 2 жыл бұрын
How interesting... Never knew that ship is there. I visit friends in Newquay every year, coming all the way from Duisburg. Guess I have to pay my respects to the old girl next time I'm over
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Wie interessant, dass Sie aus der Heimatstadt Duisburg kommen! Es ist auf jeden Fall einen Besuch wert, wenn Sie die Gelegenheit dazu haben. Vielleicht möchten Sie ein kleines Stück als Andenken mit nach Hause nehmen?
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Meine Mutter stammte aus Warendorf in Westfalen.
@ericlakota1847
@ericlakota1847 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if some one took injection pumps or did the rust away
@milesbeavis4252
@milesbeavis4252 2 жыл бұрын
I googled it for you. The SBV8M-628 is an in-line engine.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes the Mulheim was definitely powered by that Deutz 8 cylinder in-line - the one I found on the beach, and to my knowledge is still lying there. I can only guess the salvage crew found it too heavy for their lifting gear and just left it there. I seem to recall someone found a smaller 6-cylinder Diesel engine that was more likely to be the generator but I never saw it.
@geraldharkness8830
@geraldharkness8830 2 жыл бұрын
the shaft is for the fuel injection pumps..i am familiar with diesel engines
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
I guessed it was. Do you know what those modules on the big end inspection hatches for cylinders 3 and 7 are for? I have no idea. They appear on my video at 18:49 on my video. I'm guessing they're some kind of sensor but not sure. Might they be engine revolution speed sensors using some kind of Hall effect pickup?
@rosspbarnett458
@rosspbarnett458 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know why the scrap metal isn't taken out of there, it's just a mess littering the coastline ! That scrap has some value $$$$.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting though it is I agree it's an awful mess - I would like to think that it will be cleared up one day. Maybe the authorities think its cheaper for the sea to do it though its taking a long time!
@rosspbarnett458
@rosspbarnett458 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 Yes probably, it's in a remote area but still, a lot of scrap going to waste !
@HarveyJohnWillmott
@HarveyJohnWillmott 2 жыл бұрын
Where in Cornwall is this?
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
North coast near Sennen Cove on the way to Lands End
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Google maps even now marks it as Mayon Cliffs Ship Wreck describing it as a tourist attraction!
@billbaden742
@billbaden742 2 жыл бұрын
Nice testimony at the end. Those without faith in a higher power/creator will be the catalyst for the breakdown of society
@whitby910
@whitby910 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ending.
@DB.scale.models
@DB.scale.models 2 жыл бұрын
Yes about Jesus . Loved the video also.
@travisclark2346
@travisclark2346 2 жыл бұрын
All that scrap that could be pulled up that hill😢
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
The gully is steep, narrow, very craggy and is basically a waterfall. I wonder if the maths doesn't add up to a profit?
@jamessssss6611
@jamessssss6611 2 жыл бұрын
Hawse pipe...that's the anchor tube that goes down to the sea.
@phil-zz5hk
@phil-zz5hk 2 жыл бұрын
crazy thing is , she was only 4 years old . romanian built .
@whitemetro99
@whitemetro99 2 жыл бұрын
That engine isn’t big enough to be 100lt ??
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts were exactly the same after finding the spec for the Deutz SBV 8M 628 on the internet - like you I felt it just didn't look big enough! However, it is. My mistake was to try to compare it with the size of my 2lt car engine. Trouble is, cubic volume is very hard for us to perceive in our heads because of the 3 dimensional aspect of it. But here's how we get to 101lt: According to mship.no/propulsion-engines/809-deutz-sbv-8-m-628.html the Mulheim's Deutz SBV8M628 engine spec is: 𝗖𝘆𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗯𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝟮𝟰𝟬 𝗺𝗺 𝗣𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗻 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗸𝗲 𝟮𝟴𝟬 𝗺𝗺 𝗡𝘂𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝘆𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝟴 The basic engine capacity formula is: 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗖𝗮𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗶𝘁𝘆 = 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗰𝘆𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗯𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗮 𝘅 𝗖𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗸𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗳𝘁 𝗦𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗸𝗲 𝘅 𝗡𝘂𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗖𝘆𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀 ...and doing the maths: Deutz SBV8M628 engine capacity = 240/2 x 240/2 x pi x 280 x 8 = 101,335,212 cubic mm == 101,334 cc == 101 ltr ...and there you have it. To help us accept this it's easier to consider what a single litre of volume looks like and scale it up, but we have to think in 3D: A cube with sides 10cm in length occupies a volume of 1 litre. Double the side length to a cube of 20cm width and it occupies a volume of 2 cubed = 8 litres (Large American muscle car V8 size) A cube of width 30cm = volume of 3 cubed = 27 litres (already up to the size of the Spitfire's Rolls Royce Merlin engine) A cube of width 40cm = volume of 4 cubed = 64 litres A cube of width 50cm = volume of 5 cubed = 125 litres which way more than we need for the Mülheim! In fact, the cubed root of 101,334 is just under 47 so we only need a volume equivalent of a cube of side length 47cm. We can take a tape measure and easily perceive this volume by constructing an imaginary space this size. Having been right up to the engine, the 101 litres capacity then becomes very believable when you see it like this. I think part of the problem in accepting this seemingly huge engine capacity is that I used a GoPro to film it with a wide angled lens. This always makes things look smaller and further away than they actually are. This is especially true when there's no other perceivable dimensions for reference. If you google 'Deutz SBV 8M 628' you can find several pictures of ones for sale with backgrounds that give a better sense of scale. Or check out this noisy video kzbin.info/www/bejne/apvVm5psiKyVhqs where the engine is running with all it's peripherals attached - it is by no means a small engine!
@soren9310
@soren9310 2 жыл бұрын
Ahem, lovely video, but one thing rubs me the wrong way: those aren't fuel and air inlet ports! Air only! It's a Diesel engine and a direct injection one at that (well, the difference to a pre-chamber injection engine are marginal in that context)...if you make it run, by pouring fuel into the intake manifold, you'll have a runaway engine!
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I know and I feel rather silly for my rather inexcusable slip of the tongue - I even go on to identify the fuel pumps and the injector pipes on the photo of the undamaged Deutz so its not even like I didn’t know this engine used direct injection! Thanks for pointing it out.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
The subject of why Diesel engines need to use fuel injection is quite interesting in itself. I’m also impressed how old the technology is going back to the late 19th century. It begs the question of why we in Britain were still using carburettors in our wartime aero engines such as the mighty Merlin when we already had fuel injection on our well developed diesels?
@soren9310
@soren9310 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 ah, no worries and I am able to answer the question, regarding fuel injection on petrol engines: it's an issue of lubrication...Diesel has obviously very good qualities in that, while petrol has next to none. We Germans managed to overcome the issue, while Britain went the (unfortunate typical) British attitude of 80% is good enough and yes, it lead to losses of aircraft due to flooding and the fix was, that they throttled the inflow port with an orifice (a disc with a hole?) I never quite understood, how that was suppose to work well, but I guess it was cheap and 80% enough. Sorry if I am being to jaded, but I've lived in this country now for 7 years and am about to leave it, cause that very stupid attitude has made my life here quite hard (try to run a workshop here, where the focus is on toxicity and backstabbing as replacement for performance in your job...yuck) So, Mercedes Benz was willing to overcome issues of lubrication, metal expansion and shock load (it's a direct injection engine) while the British weren't interested in problem solving...reminds me of the SA80 mk1 rifle, which had to be fixed (after ten years of cover ups and denying and corruption in the highest circles of government, while troops were literally killed due to it's abysmal performance and reliability) by none other than Heckler and Koch of Germany...makes one almost insulted., how we could lose against the British, but than again: Britain turned into the US's largest aircraft carrier and rode their and the Russians tail coats to victory. Anyways, sorry for the rant, but I used to be really Anglophile and rightfully so, when one looks at the Victorians and what they achieved in every field, they ventured into, so that's where that is coming from
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
@@soren9310 Auch wenn das etwas abseits des Mülheimer Themas liegt, interessiert es mich doch sehr. Denn obwohl ich in England geboren wurde und mein Vater Engländer war, meine Mutter Deutsche war, fühle ich mich mit beiden Kulturen total verbunden. Wir haben gerade Weihnachten an Heiligabend gefeiert, wie es meine Mutter immer getan hat! Ich habe viel Zeit damit verbracht, Deutschland zu besuchen, und es gibt Dinge, die ich an der Art und Weise, wie meine beiden Länder mit den Dingen umgehen, sowohl mag als auch nicht mag. Mein aktuelles Auto ist ein BMW, weil ich etwas wollte, das einfach funktioniert - und es war im Allgemeinen ein sehr gut gebautes, exzellentes Stück deutscher Ingenieurskunst. Ich stimme Ihnen zu, dass Großbritannien eine erstaunliche, weltweit führende Frühgeschichte des Ingenieurwesens hat, beginnend mit der industriellen Revolution, und ich als Engländer bin wirklich enttäuscht darüber, wo wir jetzt stehen. Ich verstehe, dass wir immer noch sehr gut in kleinen Nischenbereichen des Ingenieurwesens in sehr moderner Technologie sind, von denen niemand wirklich etwas mitbekommt, aber es scheint, als hätten wir uns im letzten Jahrhundert erlaubt, viel zurückzurutschen. Ich denke, die Gründe dafür haben viel mehr mit Politik zu tun, als ich auf diesem Kanal sagen möchte. Als Deutscher bin ich jedoch auch stolz darauf, dass Deutschland in Bezug auf die Anzahl großartiger Musikkomponisten (die andere Seite meiner Karriere als Ingenieur) zu einer Zeit führend war, als Großbritannien nicht viel zu bieten hatte, aber ich Ebenso enttäuscht bin ich darüber, dass deutsche Komponisten heute kaum noch im globalen Musikschaffen vorkommen, da sich die Stilrichtungen geändert haben - wie kam es dazu? Großbritannien ist jetzt meilenweit voraus! Ich spreche natürlich von populärer Musik. Großbritannien ist auch weltweit führend, wenn es um den Bau von F1-Autos geht. Ich sehe viel Deutsch in mir - diesen Wunsch nach Exzellenz, Perfektion und Leistung. Ich habe 1996 eine AC Cobra-Nachbildung gebaut (ebenfalls auf meinem Kanal zu sehen) und dabei viel Liebe zum Detail walten lassen. Die Verkabelung war zum Beispiel %50 von General Motors %50 ich und ich verspürte den Drang, jede einzelne Komponente, Verbindung und Schaltung zu testen, bevor ich sie in mein Auto einbaue. In 26 Jahren hatte ich noch nie ein Problem mit der elektrischen Verkabelung. Tatsächlich hat mich das Auto aufgrund meiner eigenen Arbeit nur einmal im Stich gelassen, und das war innerhalb der ersten Woche, als mir klar wurde, dass ich nicht genug Halt an der Stange des Fernschalthebels gelassen hatte, um die zum Schalten erforderlichen Kräfte zu bewältigen. Alles, was es brauchte, war ein tieferer Schlitz und die Klemme hält seitdem gut. Bei meinem Musikschaffen gebe ich mich nie mit weniger als Exzellenz zufrieden. Es kann frustrierend sein! Es tut uns leid, dass Sie uns verlassen möchten. Aufgrund meiner eigenen Herkunft verstehe ich Ihre Frustration jedoch. Aber hier ist eine Frage an Sie: Glauben Sie, dass die neue Generation deutscher Ingenieure immer noch die gleiche Einstellung zur Exzellenz haben wird wie die vorherigen Generationen und so ihre Position als Weltmarktführer auf diesem Gebiet behaupten wird? Noch wichtiger: Frohe Weihnachten - und viel Spaß im Urlaub!
@soren9310
@soren9310 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomecreator6033 Sorry for the late reply...I've been busy elsewhere. Zu Ihrer Ausführung: erst einmal, stelle ich es mir extrem interessant vor, in diesen beiden Kulturen verankert zu sein...ich bin in Celle aufgewachsen und da das eine britische Garnisonsstadt war, kam ich früh mit Briten in kontakt (obwohl im nachinein es nicht unbedingt die beste Seite Britains zeigte) Ich bin mir auch sehr bewusst, warum die Deutschen generell ein Problem mit den Briten hatten: die britischeVerschlagenheit, die für deutsche sehr unmoralisch rüberkommt...das label "made in Germany" wurde nicht in Deutschland erfunden zB. sondern war ein (letztendlich back firing) Versuch, deutsche exporte nach Amerika und Britanian zu schaden...das Kaiserreich, obwhol so spät gegründet, überholte GB industriell am Ende des 19th Jahrhunderts...Kaiser Wilhelm II schrieb darüber und die britische Verweigerung, Deutschland auf ökonomischem Feld die Stirn zu bieten und stattdessen eine schmutzige politische Taktik zu versuchen...Belgien war nie der echte Grund, warum Britanien so darauf versessen war, in den ersten Weltkrieg zu ziehen! Die letzte, echte britische genialität in meinen Augen, war die Erfindung des Panzers...auch wenn Frankreich fast sofort einen besseren Panzer baute (FT17) Ich denke, die britische attitüde stammt von 200 Jahren indischer Rahdj...wenn man für solch eine lange Zeit, 300 millionen menschen weiss machen kann, dass 150 000 Briten "on top" genug sind, sie zu beherrschen, dann führt dass unweigerlich zu einer kulturellen Veränderung. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning the British empire, quite the opposite, all I'm saying is, that there was a price to pay for it and Britain is STILL paying the price for it, cause such cultural change is permanent and leads to the gruesome shit, we have been observing throughout the 20th and into the 21th century and there is no end in sight As for your question regarding Germany: Germans have always been a bit of a gifted kid, who finds daddy's gun at the utmost worst timing possible...a simple people, clever, yet not wise...lacking in basic understanding of what makes a good society (British liberalism of the 19th century), yet who have a deep desire for a clean and orderly world, which works simply...hence why it was a German who came up with Marxism As for my prognosis: both countries and Europe as a whole are screwed...mostly, because Germans are in power and other factors, which you've already hinted at and which can't be openly discussed on this platform, have exploited skillfully the worst of both countries...the good news is: the EU won't survive another 5-10 years Anyways, I'm getting myself out of Europe...during WW2, half of my family was wiped out and I'm sure as heck ain't going to make their mistake Cheerio and sorry for writing in English: I've been living in English language countries for so long now, it's easier at this point in time, to communicate in English for me
@briansteffmagnussen9078
@briansteffmagnussen9078 2 жыл бұрын
The hatches are actually manholes for working inside the engine. Theres a stair on the inside.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the access hatch I identify at time 8:46 on the video?
@carmadme
@carmadme 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the OP realises this isn't a very big engine Those hatches are only about a foot tall perhaps less
@briansteffmagnussen9078
@briansteffmagnussen9078 2 жыл бұрын
@@carmadme My fault, There are nothing near the engine that can give me an indication of the actual size of the engine.
@ericlakota1847
@ericlakota1847 2 жыл бұрын
The props I think would of Ben taken buy salvagers being made out of $$$$ metals hard to tell how big that engin is for this size ship I thought it would of Ben bigger
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
I've just posted my thoughts on whether that engine was for propulsion or electric generation or both!
@Jawst
@Jawst Жыл бұрын
That engine is tiny! Like a generator engine!
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha! Initially my thoughts too - but it really is the main power unit. See my response to whitmetro99's comment about 1 month ago. Also, contributions in my thread that starts "There has been some debate here about whether the engine I found on the beach was the main power unit or just for the generator?" 2 months ago are worth a read. The generator is also on the beach and is a 6 cylinder in-line - see Rick Sadler's thread from about 5 months ago.
@holgerwittmann8419
@holgerwittmann8419 2 жыл бұрын
Good metal.
@koen-peeters80
@koen-peeters80 2 жыл бұрын
Take it to the scrapyard and land yourself a extra penny 😉 grtz from belguim
@wyomingadventures
@wyomingadventures 2 жыл бұрын
You realize you would need special equipment to salvage the ship. That would be a big job.
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
@@wyomingadventures I quite agree. A salvage crew did go down to get all the plastic car parts off it before the ship broke up completely. They used cables and a small hoist. The wreck is too far in the cove for a sea-fairing salvage vessel and the cove is too steep and narrow and the cliffs too high for an easy land based solution. I think they just did the maths (or Math as you friends of ours across the pond say!) and realised even at today's prices the scrap metal value wasn't worth the cost of a full salvage operation. I do wonder about the environmental impact though and whether that could have changed maths? I found a large rusty metal part of the Mülheim on Gwynver Beach a couple of miles away!
@auricom8472
@auricom8472 2 жыл бұрын
Where's her propellor lying?
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
No sign of it at the wreck site. I'm guessing with it likely to be made of bronze the salvage crew have taken it for scrap value. The rudder is gone too as I mentioned on the video.
@colvinator1611
@colvinator1611 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe taken for the bronze.
@thekingsilverado3266
@thekingsilverado3266 2 жыл бұрын
Ship? Ship? You got a we spot of rubbish on a beach laddy...
@waitakereman
@waitakereman 2 жыл бұрын
Had to mention your God how sad
@awesomecreator6033
@awesomecreator6033 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently the official explanation for the Mülheim running aground was that the guy in charge was knocked out after getting his trouser leg caught on a lever... as the ship hit the rocks I bet he mentioned his God a few times!!!
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