The 🔥Roast🔥 of Classroom of the Elite

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Mother's Basement

Mother's Basement

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@TheKarishi
@TheKarishi Жыл бұрын
The "they made a special school on a futuristic island they constructed in Tokyo Bay" is such a WEIRD specific detail to exist in like five very different anime.
@thedarklordx
@thedarklordx Жыл бұрын
It must be based on something in real life. Or all those authors watched each other's shows.
@Kromgar1337
@Kromgar1337 Жыл бұрын
@@thedarklordx I think there was some island in tokyo bay where a bunch of companies dumped tech they couldn't sell back when japans economy crashed
@andreaduarte3439
@andreaduarte3439 Жыл бұрын
they've built offshore islands in like four different places across Japan to place airports, i think that's probably part of the irl context
@EgnachHelton
@EgnachHelton Жыл бұрын
@@thedarklordx There's a plan to construct a huge pyramid like structure to house the entire population of Tokyo, in the middle of the Tokyo Bay.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Жыл бұрын
Aside from artificial islands being a thing and Tokyo being a place where people would plausibly want more land,* building your own artificial island next to Tokyo is a convenient way to invent a setting not tied to inconvenient real-world geographic details while still being close to familiar places, in both tone and travel time. *I read somewhere that it has the highest land prices of any city on Earth? But even if land there is slightly cheaper than in Paris or NYC, that's still expensive enough for building your own land to be a plausibly economical decision.
@FDSignifire
@FDSignifire Жыл бұрын
"Enjoy your trash while you can" is genuinely great advice to young people
@stga6255
@stga6255 Жыл бұрын
Did not expect to see you here
@larsnyman2455
@larsnyman2455 Жыл бұрын
F.D. Jumpscare? This reminds me of when John Walsh showed up in your masculinity video
@Godspeace21
@Godspeace21 Жыл бұрын
Oh man the world’s greatest crossover!
@renebismarck8265
@renebismarck8265 Жыл бұрын
You dare yourself to crawl out of your hole?
@bestnokuestion2150
@bestnokuestion2150 Жыл бұрын
MB, FD and Super Eyepatch being colleagues is so surreal to me.
@Superkirby982
@Superkirby982 Жыл бұрын
I really do not understand why tf anyone would wanna BE Ayanokoji when in the series the dude literally doesn't even wanna be himself 💀💀
@alicewandermeer998
@alicewandermeer998 Жыл бұрын
BUT HIS SOOOO COOOOOL!!! (c) TFS KIng Vegita
@soulstice33
@soulstice33 Жыл бұрын
@@alicewandermeer998 lol nice
@DBZHGWgamer
@DBZHGWgamer Жыл бұрын
I think the idea is that Ayanokoji is just so on a different level compared to everyone around him that he doesn't fall for anything and is 5 steps ahead of everyone is something people aspire to be. Meanwhile people don't include the whole thing where he's pretty much a slave to how his father raised him and the only act of rebellion he can muster is to try to be a normal kid at highschool until his father takes him back and uses Ayanokoiji as a tool to fulfill his own dreams.
@Danz009
@Danz009 Жыл бұрын
he can literally make anything happen through a combination of social engineering and insane planning / intellect. the odds are always so insanely stacked against him but he always finds a way to come out unscathed while meeting certain conditions that increase the difficulty. it seems impossible but he finds a way and thats kind of inspiring.
@holdingpattern245
@holdingpattern245 Жыл бұрын
these people probably don't want to be themselves either
@robbt.2386
@robbt.2386 Жыл бұрын
"Using his superpower of being a sociopath" is probably my favorite Mother's Basement Quotable of 2022.
@Lianpe98
@Lianpe98 Жыл бұрын
😆👌
@tumarmaa2984
@tumarmaa2984 Жыл бұрын
Pin this !!!
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 Жыл бұрын
It's a good quote.
@Alonkis251
@Alonkis251 Жыл бұрын
Good quote, but when you think about it, what you've to say for Joker and other villeins alike
@thatoldmess8955
@thatoldmess8955 Жыл бұрын
Ye that part was funny af
@judeconnor-macintyre9874
@judeconnor-macintyre9874 Жыл бұрын
Every generation has a anime that seems like the second coming of Christ as a teenager but when you decide to re-watch it as a adult you realize it was kind of cringe.
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
Definitely this anime This anime is Mediocre at best
@seblat1086
@seblat1086 Жыл бұрын
What would be the equivalent for your generation?
@Goldenkitten1
@Goldenkitten1 Жыл бұрын
@@seblat1086 Gundam Wing, without a doubt. Wing became absurdly popular in the West as it aired alongside the first true wave of socially accepted anime. Everyone rushed home to watch DBZ, Sailor Moon among others and maybe if your parents were cool you were allowed to stay up to see an episode of Trigun and Cowboy Bebop along the way. Though America had seen the Gundam series prior to Wing it was Wing that joined this group in millions of kids rushing home to watch it and really propelled the series into the western mindset. Come back two decades later and you realize it's one of the worst Gundams out there with a roughly stitched together story and characters who were the epitome of late 90's-early 00's edge. That whole "you better not get to close to me or I might kill you even though we all know we're winding up together in the end" shtick. The animation is good but how often has Gundam animation ever been bad? And even then it pales in comparison to some of the better entries. There are of course far worse anime than Wing, thousands of them. But as a series that was lauded as what other anime should aim to become you revisit it and realize it was really barely legible trash featuring a group of edgelords with the likability of a brick thrown into a sewer that got by on its good art design and appealing to everything spikey a teenager of that era wanted from Hot Topic.
@seblat1086
@seblat1086 Жыл бұрын
@@Goldenkitten1 Good, comment, I really apreciate your perspective. Unfortunatly, I don't really have a lot to add, since I only recently started watching anime.
@denhrnz306
@denhrnz306 Жыл бұрын
Bro I'm 17 and even I think it's cringe
@thetowerofdarkness
@thetowerofdarkness Жыл бұрын
"Just make everyone else dumber than them and/or let them predict the future!" Ah, the BBC Sherlock method.
@Powered1Buttercup
@Powered1Buttercup Жыл бұрын
Shit, time to watch Hbomberguy’s video on that show again
@stonks3507
@stonks3507 Жыл бұрын
@@Powered1ButtercupA ritual I preform whenever someone mentions BBC Sherlock
@metalvoiceguy1232
@metalvoiceguy1232 10 ай бұрын
Great, thanks for taking 2 hours from my day by mentioning that video. now I have to watch it again. I could have got something done but nope it's Hbomb time
@oneeyed9579
@oneeyed9579 10 ай бұрын
That kind of story telling is maddening but kinda stupid fun sometime. But for me it did not work. In this case if it was satire it would have.
@jj947
@jj947 10 ай бұрын
@@Powered1Buttercupnow I’m just disappointed Classroom of the Elite doesn’t have a boomerang
@davidjachimiak
@davidjachimiak Жыл бұрын
you pointed something out that I hated about the series. For a school that's about being the "best" and "preparing people for society" there's a serious lack of evidence or unused evidence that wouldn't slide at a remedial school run by corrupt toddlers.
@queltanis93
@queltanis93 Жыл бұрын
@@DigeeTheGenie +1
@KugelKami
@KugelKami Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I had that thought the first season. The fact they used fake cameras, showcases the school is unsecured.
@akatsukigajou1639
@akatsukigajou1639 Жыл бұрын
David Jachimiak nah there are no toddlers only edgy warlords and the evidence remain in sekret so theres no lack and the students here are better since they are once who hide the evidence.
@MidgarMerc
@MidgarMerc Жыл бұрын
@@DigeeTheGenie if anything the school grooming elites to be as corrupt as possible is extremely accurate
@akatsukigajou1639
@akatsukigajou1639 Жыл бұрын
@@DigeeTheGenie cause the *the 1 piece is real* *cue can we got much higher*
@carbodude5414
@carbodude5414 Жыл бұрын
Truly the ultimate chuunibyou experience when being a sociopath is treated as a "superpower"
@Twadfire
@Twadfire Жыл бұрын
The other superpowers being surrounded by morons, enablers and impotent/useless/corrupt "authorities" (assuming they arent the real villains.. but then they are evil morons with inexplicably endless budgets as usual)
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant Жыл бұрын
Mother's Basement never did a Film-Critique in he Style of "Our Popcorn Dystopia" by KZbinr Some More News, right?
@TheBluePhoenix008
@TheBluePhoenix008 Жыл бұрын
It works sometimes, but most of the time it's just annoying
@majorblitz3846
@majorblitz3846 Жыл бұрын
I missed back when Chuunibyo are just JRPG intoxicated cringe, not a "four step ahead of you" edgelord
@otgonbileg.
@otgonbileg. Жыл бұрын
uh no one has "superpower" people are just saying he has "superpower" because he is just smart
@morgann2938
@morgann2938 Жыл бұрын
It's so cool when the protagonist is sociopath who emotionally manipulates everyone around him. And that when a girl is doing basically the same thing in the same series, she's the WORST.
@marcjerry6
@marcjerry6 Жыл бұрын
You guys are disregarding the fact that the protagonist had to do what he did for survival. The white room demanded it. Even when he escaped, the teacher blackmailed him into being the same sociopath that he was in the white room so she can ascend to class A. He wants a normal life, thats why he scores average on everything. The girl chose to be this way. She feeds on being worshiped and admired. Shes the worst because nobody is forcing her to be this way. Later on, they do try to be friends with her, but she resists. Now that do not make either of them right or wrong, but to say what you guys said so casually is a disservice to the dynamic between the two, not to mention the novel.
@marcjerry6
@marcjerry6 Жыл бұрын
@@hugofontes5708 Not to be confrontational here, but I don't think judging the protaganist or the media without first knowing anything about it is the best way to form an opinion. As it stands, you only have this video and my words to go on alone. But that aside, The teacher is indeed threatening him because she wants more prestige from climbling to class A. He doesnt care, he just want to experience the normal life that the white room took from him. He resorts to manipulatiom because that was what he learned and that was what allowed him to survive. That dont make him right but thats all he knows. Nobody, at least that I've heard, ever said he was a good guy. They do however, including me, think that his plans are pretty cool. How he is always one step ahead of his opponents. He's not a good guy, just the protagonist we are following. We are allowed to judge him and his actions, all I'm saying is that is unfair to do so without all the facts or context. Edit: also I dont really remember what the teacher is threatening him with. Expulsion or reporting him to his father, not sure tbh.
@marcjerry6
@marcjerry6 Жыл бұрын
@@hugofontes5708 yeah you got it
@Leonson1
@Leonson1 Жыл бұрын
@@hugofontes5708 Expulsion iirc is what he's being threatened with. Being returned to his father. He finds out later that his teacher has no power over his enrollment and he tells her he's done and she can jog on.
@marcjerry6
@marcjerry6 Жыл бұрын
@@Leonson1 i feel likr the novel does a better job of explaining him then the anime does, the ending of the second season could also have been better
@Piromysl359
@Piromysl359 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think I am Ayanokoji. I also like to not express any emotions, torment women by exposing them to bullying, torture and sexually assault them to test their loyalty and resolve. You know, like typically deep, morally gray and complex character would do.
@bobrat1594
@bobrat1594 2 жыл бұрын
based
@nokkuneinei6592
@nokkuneinei6592 2 жыл бұрын
biggest ayanokoji problem is from volume 1 it is already said that he is not gray, he is Black character whom can't feel empathy, yet the audience "must" see and act like he is "gray", instead of treating him like Ainz as Villain Protagonist
@kingsleycy3450
@kingsleycy3450 Жыл бұрын
You saying that you are clever is how I know you are clever.
@ilikethis3203
@ilikethis3203 Жыл бұрын
@@nokkuneinei6592 You're mistaken. The black character is Albert.
@imjustlikedenji5954
@imjustlikedenji5954 Жыл бұрын
Ayanokohi is just like me
@sanfransiscon
@sanfransiscon Жыл бұрын
A high school that rewards students with incredible prestige for stepping over their peers in any interaction that could possibly be conceived as a competition is definitely a healthy way for teens to find their identity and place in the world. Just look at how well Hope's Peak Academy turned out!
@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013
@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 Жыл бұрын
There are definitely a bunch of people who unironically think things like this unironically. I'm surprised no Objectivist has built this school in California, given the number of other utterly insane types of school actually allowed to exist. 'Schools' that have no curriculum and which just torture the mentally disabled with electric shocks *constantly* with the sole purpose being to inflict pain have won basically every challenge they've ever had in court.
@mookiestewart3776
@mookiestewart3776 Жыл бұрын
@@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 a school like this in Cali would get burned to the ground lol
@woahthisisinteresting4369
@woahthisisinteresting4369 Жыл бұрын
THIS oh my god, what is up with ""elite"" anime schools having some of the most quirky notlikeotherschools systems of education
@wdcain1
@wdcain1 Жыл бұрын
I have problems with the D3 anime but I like that it showed how despite how all the talent Izuru had, he didn't bother to save people because he wasn't design to care.
@sanfransiscon
@sanfransiscon Жыл бұрын
@@wdcain1 I really appreciate that the danger of reducing a person to their worth in a specific identity or role is a theme the entire series revolves around from beginning to end. It's honestly impressive how casually disgusting the lucky student lottery is if its usual purpose is just to bring in a "control group" student to make the Ultimates look better in comparison.
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 Жыл бұрын
"Never before in my life have I felt so thirty" is, in my mom's opinion, Geoff's best line, and she's been using it repeatedly the last few days. Watching these videos with her has given our family so many memes.
@waffle911
@waffle911 Жыл бұрын
Damn, you can get your mom into watching this? My mother is all for funny things, but I get the impression she would find Geoff pushes things a bit far.
@fraglsnitz
@fraglsnitz Жыл бұрын
You watch anime with your Mom? Or do you guys just watch trash anime reviews for lols?
@valhatan3907
@valhatan3907 3 ай бұрын
The op left us with questions unanswered
@gentlemandemon
@gentlemandemon 2 жыл бұрын
when you described an opaque system where the kids are given autonomy with no structure, all I could think is that they're gonna end of with a lot of pregnant teens
@mothersbasement
@mothersbasement Жыл бұрын
Shinzo Abe voice: feature, not a bug
@cnlbenmc
@cnlbenmc Жыл бұрын
Maybe they're all on birth control or something...
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb Жыл бұрын
@@mothersbasement 💀
@Bylov6812
@Bylov6812 Жыл бұрын
@@mothersbasement Slick
@Shadow6OO
@Shadow6OO Жыл бұрын
@@mothersbasement Congrats on roasting the corpse 👍
@unknownvariable9239
@unknownvariable9239 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t even hate on Season 2’s plot since most of it got skipped.
@venor2612
@venor2612 2 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOO 😭😭😭
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
Ep 5 and ep 13 literally just adapted one volume with 300 pages in just 20+ minutes then change some of the dialogue and call it a day like bruhh
@Siv3001
@Siv3001 Жыл бұрын
Ayo
@MAX-xd4uz
@MAX-xd4uz Жыл бұрын
facts
@anonisnoone6125
@anonisnoone6125 Жыл бұрын
@@solarmars7950 Wait so season 2 just changed everything? What was the point of making a s2 then? And based on this, s3 will probably be the same then.
@dvillines26
@dvillines26 Жыл бұрын
I also wanted to mention how funny it is seeing everyone treat Ayanokouji as a normal, cool guy, when he has this dead fish affect, and cold, disinterested eyes. He's not even really faking having feelings particularly well! He does the things he needs to do, but anyone who can read more subtle cues IRL would have alarm bells going off for someone like him. Even the other cool calculating schemers in the show have bursts of emotion, or at least passing expressions. It just strains credulity for me that he doesn't twig off at least a few of the more empathic girls.
@DoNBiChes
@DoNBiChes Жыл бұрын
Ye, this novel definitely has lack of some students who genuinely scared of him because of his dead look. There's no way that much girls love him considering all of this
@thedarklordx
@thedarklordx Жыл бұрын
There's a very brief mention of some of the girls in ayanokoji's class not liking him and finding him creepy or weird later on in the LN.
@DoNBiChes
@DoNBiChes Жыл бұрын
@@thedarklordx I haven't read volume 7 of second year yet, but I guess this one girl is Onodera considering the second sports festival arc
@thedarklordx
@thedarklordx Жыл бұрын
@@DoNBiChes oh yeah you're right about Onodera, that might be who I was thinking of. There might be another really minor girl mentioned in year 2 too.
@danielclough9544
@danielclough9544 Жыл бұрын
​@@thedarklordx tbh that's established from the get go I thought, and because in the light novel he feels more human, he doesnt seem as suspicious and it comes across that he is just a normal guy who doesnt stand out
@sandrosliske
@sandrosliske Жыл бұрын
Classroom of the Elite was a pivotal moment in my anime watching life. It was the very first show I realised that it was alright to drop an anime even if you've already sunk about 10 episodes into it. If it's not doing it for you and feels like a chore to even watch the next episode then it is perfectly fine to just stop. You don't need to finish everything, your time is precious and you don't have to force yourself to like what you are watching. So for that thank you Classroom of the Elite.
@angeluriel2725
@angeluriel2725 Жыл бұрын
This was me with Future Diary, before that I forced myself to finish every single anime I started (I accidentally started Another but I'm terrrified even by bad horror and I still finished it), and now I just drop anime left and right lol somehow I still stuck through Classroom of the Elite tho
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Жыл бұрын
This was me with the original Evangelion. I just couldn't finish past Episode 17. Does that make me uncultured? Dunno.
@EnterNameToNoAvail
@EnterNameToNoAvail Жыл бұрын
Yep, there’s nothing wrong with dropping a show you’re tired of. I myself dropped iron blooded orphans when I had 2 or 3 episodes left in the series since the plot armor the antagonists had was fucking stupid. Drop that shit like it’s hot; it’s a valuable skill to have.
@SpineShank7
@SpineShank7 Жыл бұрын
@@MrGksarathy No it doesn't. Watching that show was a chore, even if the mech designs were awesome.
@denjidenji9162
@denjidenji9162 Жыл бұрын
@@MrGksarathy Personally i liked it, but not liking it does not make you uncultured. It's your opinion, and trying to finish something you know you don't enjoy just to "be cultured" or "have good taste" is not a good idea. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise, their opinion isn't worth listening to.
@66Roses
@66Roses 2 жыл бұрын
"Never in my life have I felt this 30." After turning 30, a lot of things make you feel that way.
@SWProductions100
@SWProductions100 Жыл бұрын
Me: 'Gladiator' is newish film, right? It was released in the year...oh...
@alyssinwilliams4570
@alyssinwilliams4570 Жыл бұрын
Just wait till ya hit 45
@sparklesparklesparkle6318
@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Жыл бұрын
@@alyssinwilliams4570 Pfft just wait til you reverse to 38.
@alyssinwilliams4570
@alyssinwilliams4570 Жыл бұрын
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 I would do.. things.. to make this happen
@sparklesparklesparkle6318
@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Жыл бұрын
@@alyssinwilliams4570 gimme yo credit card i got you fam
@realperson69
@realperson69 Жыл бұрын
22:24 You forget that Kiyotaka can't use the excuse of "tripping while being an anime protagonist" because then he has to admit to being an anime protagonist and thus his white-room dad wins.
@doubleedgeplayer6681
@doubleedgeplayer6681 Жыл бұрын
It's such a shame that Ayanokoji turned out the way he did in the series when in the light novel you see him learn to appreciate and understand those around him as he questions who he really wants to be
@lightyagami4560
@lightyagami4560 Жыл бұрын
Yep that's why he expelled airi to look cool ofc the evil genius
@someyeeterontheblock2421
@someyeeterontheblock2421 Жыл бұрын
He only started questioning how he sees the main girl by the end of season 2, which should have been done earlier honestly, but at least that means they may make a season. 3. Somehow I don't know what Saudi Arabian oil prince is going to give them the money but..m
@leiiyon
@leiiyon Жыл бұрын
but he's still into executing his shady plan read y2 volume 8
@shivashishwar9552
@shivashishwar9552 Жыл бұрын
@@leiiyon volume 8? The site I read it on only goes up to year 2 volume 4. Mind telling me where you read it?
@leiiyon
@leiiyon Жыл бұрын
@@shivashishwar9552 sure, do u have discord? ill send u the link
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Жыл бұрын
Wait, love interest boy is a sociopathic weirdo who deliberately performs mediocrely at things so that people won’t learn his dark secret? That’s just Yoshikage Kira.
@liammercado1235
@liammercado1235 Жыл бұрын
Based on the anime at least, a dollar store version of Yoshikage Kira.
@bbd121
@bbd121 Жыл бұрын
Sigh...it all comes back to Jojo.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын
HIDE YO *HANDS*
@o0ugi860
@o0ugi860 Жыл бұрын
@@bbd121 just how the universe works i guess
@bbd121
@bbd121 Жыл бұрын
@@o0ugi860 Then, will you too, at the end, become Jojo? As we gaze into the void, will the void also become Jojo? For I have seen the end. I have become Jojo, the Oraoraora of star finger. Quoted from Joan of Arc during the battle for Gettysburg near the pyramids; Art of war.
@OribaNS
@OribaNS Жыл бұрын
For all the COTE fans who like the show, I can’t stress this enough. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO LIKE BAD ANIME. The books are probably great but the anime does have a lot of issues. I am personally willing to overlook them and just enjoy it, while some others are not. As long as it made you smile or get hyped or enjoy yourself, don’t feel bad about watching it. Funny roast and great video as always Geoff
@ttw-uu4gh
@ttw-uu4gh Жыл бұрын
thank u sir
@ChupaLmfao
@ChupaLmfao Жыл бұрын
Literally makes no sense but ok U give an objective opinion while talking about it’s okay to have one… 😂
@OribaNS
@OribaNS Жыл бұрын
@@ChupaLmfao AlI said was that you shouldn’t feel bad for liking something even if it’s objectively not great. What’s so confusing about that?
@ChupaLmfao
@ChupaLmfao Жыл бұрын
@@OribaNS cuz something like this isn’t objective There are dick riders of this anime and criticizers of it. So there is no objective opinion on *this*
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, you just want to see Ayanokoji solve every problem immediately and reveal to everyone his masterplan of "using an intended feature in a not-too-obvious way" and every girl falling for him even tho he makes fewer expressions than Frisk from Undertale.
@ChristianNeihart
@ChristianNeihart 2 жыл бұрын
I am a simple man. I see a roast, I watch the roast.
@johnynoway9127
@johnynoway9127 2 жыл бұрын
how fat are you?
@cydoyk
@cydoyk Жыл бұрын
I am a simple man. I see a roast, I watch the roast and then I see a comment about the roast, while commenting that I see a reply about the roast.
@thevioletbee5879
@thevioletbee5879 Жыл бұрын
I am a simple woman. This chain is already too complicated for my tiny brain to contribute.
@cam4636
@cam4636 Жыл бұрын
I'm a complicated sentient slime mold running FireFox on a decomposing log in the forest. What's school? Who decides eliteness? Why are we here? What's the meaning of life?
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 Жыл бұрын
I'm a a rocket powered motorcycle with highly advance pattern recognition AI. This chain is getting weirder and I see no hints to suggest as to why the pattern suddenly changes from simplicity to small brain to philosophy in an instant.
@thebrokenforgottenandlost4273
@thebrokenforgottenandlost4273 2 жыл бұрын
22:20 It’s also practically impossible to get a fingerprint off of fabric
@Cecil97
@Cecil97 Жыл бұрын
Yes and Ayanokoji knows that
@Cecil97
@Cecil97 Жыл бұрын
@Monkey D. Luffy he never plotted to get rid of the shirt. when he was ousting Kushida he straight up didn't care when she tried to pull that card on him.
@tamaraarcher855
@tamaraarcher855 Жыл бұрын
Okay I'm glad someone commented I had to watch that part twice. I thought maybe I had misheard and her plan was that there would be DNA. Granted touch DNA transfers and there would be other plausible explanations but it makes more sense than getting a handprint off of fabric.
@adrit5847
@adrit5847 Жыл бұрын
That's not really the point is it? It could have just been a bluff to make sure he doesn't say anything, threat made on the spot since i doubt that 15 year old would just be able to think rationally there
@Cecil97
@Cecil97 Жыл бұрын
@@adrit5847 yeah and he got more info and mistakes out of her since she thought she had the advantage.
@Alice-oi3ew
@Alice-oi3ew 2 жыл бұрын
Omg the "this text is a filler" that showed up first thing just immediately caught me off guard, that's amazing
@ExarchNZ
@ExarchNZ Жыл бұрын
I stared at it for a good 10 seconds and was like, why does the Japanese and English text not match. Did MB forget to change the stock text? But the quote's attribution is correct in both. It was a good moment of WTF am I missing. Oh wait its a joke. lol
@Ellisepha
@Ellisepha Жыл бұрын
For some reason I couldn't decifer what the hell "tekisuto" was supposed to mean lol
@ExarchNZ
@ExarchNZ Жыл бұрын
@@Ellisepha I had to say it aloud to get that one.
@birdonerd7194
@birdonerd7194 Жыл бұрын
23:30 "their willful ignorance starts verging into 'Ace Attorney Judge' territory" UGH! I felt that in my damn bones.
@GrimmShane
@GrimmShane Жыл бұрын
[Ace Attorney Whip sound effect]
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын
O M G O_o
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Жыл бұрын
at least it works for the Judge because he's SuPPOSED to be an idiot and a bit cowardly, and yet can have some backbone or wit hidden under that empty head of his. What's THEIR excuse?
@Sakaki98
@Sakaki98 Жыл бұрын
The anime’s greatest accomplishment is driving me to bond over how shitty it is with people who then convinced me to make my way over to the NOT offensively bad novels. Funnily enough, revisiting the anime adaptation with knowledge of the source material makes it so much more frustrating that it sucks because most of the bad things about it would be easily avoided by just being faithful. And thus I join the people that convince miffed anime watchers to read the novels, and the cycle continues.
@swampyclaw9119
@swampyclaw9119 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@swampyclaw9119
@swampyclaw9119 Жыл бұрын
The anime alone is pretty decent but when you compare it to the source it’s unwatchable.
@nutritionandphysiology8023
@nutritionandphysiology8023 Жыл бұрын
Conspiracy theory: Bad anime are a subtle plot to make you read the manga for the superior writing.
@carolbaker2773
@carolbaker2773 Жыл бұрын
Really the anime needed to have his internal dialog spoken or at least have seens sprinkled in that shows him setting up the plans. But honestly I think one thing that isnt given enought credit by MB is that the plans are bad because they are like 15/16 years old. Does anyone remember their plans to sneak out of the house at that age? Guess what, your parents knew you were doing it. Hell when my little brother who is 5 years younger than me snuck out of the house my mom called me laughing cause the fool left with his phone so my mom could track him. The school allows it because it doesnt want to interfere with the students growth and lets them settle things between themselves. The schools wants them to be creative with problem solving that doesnt involve going directly to the teachers. Only later does it become unfair to the students when plot points happen and protag has to start trying.
@TheJL555
@TheJL555 Жыл бұрын
While the novel is probably good, the entire setting is just too funny and too convoluted for me to take it seriously. COTE Oversimplified is: 480 cringelords are stuck together in one school where they pretend it's some sort of a survival battle when they can pretty much live a normal life outside it.
@eclipse1161
@eclipse1161 Жыл бұрын
This anime gets a lot of praise for being a powerpoint presentation.
@davantiowo6519
@davantiowo6519 Жыл бұрын
Damn bro 😂
@BatmanArkham8592
@BatmanArkham8592 Жыл бұрын
What?
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын
O M G XD
@Oneforus21111
@Oneforus21111 Жыл бұрын
LOL
@petrsevcik5044
@petrsevcik5044 Жыл бұрын
You probably didn't see any realy good powerpoint presentations if you thing they don't deserve praise.
@dagingerbreadman70
@dagingerbreadman70 2 жыл бұрын
19:55 This killed me 😂 “Boss’ orders” such an awful character. Black representation is always just bald bodybuilding thugs lol. I’d be more offended if it wasn’t so hilariously poorly written. I genuinely laughed at his lines despite myself haha
@MidgarMerc
@MidgarMerc Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely no racist undertones there. About as subtle as your typical interracial NTR doujin
@UniversalPvp
@UniversalPvp Жыл бұрын
Albert is preety loved in the community more then Kushida atleast.
@razumikhim
@razumikhim Жыл бұрын
well, do you want representation or not?
@cofeejamm
@cofeejamm Жыл бұрын
@@razumikhim it's not representation if it doesn't actually represent real normal humans
@riynu7774
@riynu7774 Жыл бұрын
@@razumikhim well, it depends if you represent them well or not so do better.
@Scryllix
@Scryllix Жыл бұрын
It's a shame because the light novel really does solve pretty much all the issues of the anime.
@nigellanjuat3294
@nigellanjuat3294 Жыл бұрын
Oh it's coping skills
@KOFNY
@KOFNY Жыл бұрын
I gotta say he’s pretty much on the mark. Almost all the issues with the anime are explained or solved in the LN since it had way more room for details and scenes that got cut
@ttw-uu4gh
@ttw-uu4gh Жыл бұрын
@xikarra no really. im going to quote one comment here as example to the shit the anime did to the LN ''Because the outsourced studio literally didn't have any damn budget to animate scenes properly. In the LN Class C didn't blatantly punch and kick Suduo, just some minor bumps and crashes, which worked on Sudou in a physiological way than physical. Not only these but they used some other little dirty tricks like Ryuuen using hair gel in that "get the flag from your opponents head riding a man made horse" (I don't remember the name). That made it impossible for class D and A to get the last "flag" since it was slippy. For Horikita's part, the class C girl was calling her name, which made Horikita look at her direction few times, before the accident happened. The hot teacher video-checked, and pointed out that it seems like Horikita intentionally bumped to her; Results being that Horikita was forced to go to the hospital. But of course anime didn't have the time even for that and Horikita followed Kushida like an idiot.
@AK-lv2xp
@AK-lv2xp Жыл бұрын
@xikarra no his character is more normal in ln he is made a edgy teen in anime
@MonsterMash324
@MonsterMash324 Жыл бұрын
This anime is S tier for me. I literally have zero problems. Every issue this KZbin said could be applied to every anime tbh. Naruto- Annoying typical kid has some INSANE power that let's him win every fight and he has a love intrest who doesn't love him back but instead he ends up with the second love intrest who has watched him for years
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim Жыл бұрын
All these mini-Machiavellis in high school anime puzzle me. Most of the people I went to school with wouldn't have bothered with a scheme more intricate than calling each other gay in a loud voice.
@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013
@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 Жыл бұрын
Well, yes, but that's why they're typically schools for the exceptional. Most people in highschool are roughly as smart as a bar of soap and half as motivated. Some of that comes down to teenagers being their own unique kind of stupid, some of it is just that it's what most people are like in real life but most things you can do outside of the public school system filter things to end up with more interesting and/or more capable people, for any definition of interesting or capable. Some jobs filter for a certain kind of smart, some filter for people who are likely to have interesting drug hookups, and some involve a type of shared interest that colours your interactions so they don't seem more boring than bottled water. But they typically don't make for particularly interesting narratives unless they go on to murder someone. Which is why no one writes books, movies, or tv shows about them.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 Жыл бұрын
It is just the standard YA escapist drivel, except now it is, "You're secretly super smart, and all those guys that are like the people that make your life worse are dumb" rather than "You're crazy overpowered in another world and here's your complementary harem", "In this dystopian society, the kids know better than the adults and all of the future hangs on them, and here's your love triangle", or "You may be an insignificant farmboy, but you are the chosen one and not that guy over there that was actually trained to handle all the situations you're about to find yourself in. Also, have a princess and an old guy mentor, but don't get too attached, because he's definitely not making it to the end of the story."
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. High schoolers are dumb as hell. Even the smart ones. Especially the smart ones, actually.
@SinHurr
@SinHurr Жыл бұрын
Glory to me, the 69th like.
@gleipnirrr
@gleipnirrr Жыл бұрын
that's what you get when adults write teens
@sousukesagara193
@sousukesagara193 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing about Classroom of the elite is the edgy kids that keep spamming the word "tool" without trying to understand the MC's motives and personality and of course everyone sees himself as the MC, a genius but hiding his true talents (only without the genius part)
@Lianpe98
@Lianpe98 Жыл бұрын
*T O O L*
@angelovargas938
@angelovargas938 Жыл бұрын
I don't even think you can blame them, tbh. Most of what makes Koji so unique and complex in the novels just got straight up cut. His anime version really does seem to be just edgy and devoid of personality, when he's actually one of my favourite characters in the novels. It's a real shame what a piss poor adaptation they did
@HellOzzzGaming
@HellOzzzGaming Жыл бұрын
Its a meme among the fanbase, u dont need to take it so srsly.
@cameron82489
@cameron82489 Жыл бұрын
@@angelovargas938 it kinda goes both ways when adapting COTE into an anime. on one hand, the anime adapts his exterior appearance and personality. on the other hand, I don't really see how the anime can adapt his self-perception. COTE just works better as a standalone light novel.
@monstergelo1072
@monstergelo1072 Жыл бұрын
just like me frfr
@joshpineau405
@joshpineau405 Жыл бұрын
"Technically an adult signing out from my own basement." mans went through more character development than anyone in this show.
@Its_SD
@Its_SD Жыл бұрын
I like how anime is a psychological thriller Then it skips every psychological details from the LN I hope people wouldn't judge the LN based of the anime
@WickedKnightAlbel
@WickedKnightAlbel Жыл бұрын
I'm doing exactly that because no good story can possibly come of something so fundamentally godawful that it would produce this
@Its_SD
@Its_SD Жыл бұрын
@@WickedKnightAlbel judging the LN you mean? If show then I would say the very fundamental of the story has been changed in the anime The character writing, depth, detailing, development, mind games, strategies, philosophy, character dynamic, tone, complexity, character psychology, set up, impact, steaks, intensity etc are heavily changed to fit aa simple pop corn power fantasy vibe MC ayanokoji is a perfect example as if you start reading you will notice intently that how anime and LN ayanokoji are completely different
@philo2189
@philo2189 Жыл бұрын
It's cool I'm not reading it
@ttw-uu4gh
@ttw-uu4gh Жыл бұрын
@@WickedKnightAlbel basically every single issue adressed in this video is fixed in the LN, so there's that.
@lightyagami4560
@lightyagami4560 Жыл бұрын
@@ttw-uu4gh Nothing is fixed in LN 😑. I already know what coming, the uncomfortable d8ck size competition.. the whole volume is based on single exam I can't wait for anime to adapt the Same thing yet LN reader will complain
@Niffoni
@Niffoni 2 жыл бұрын
I watched exactly one episode of S1, took a screengrab of a blonde guy saying "I have no interest in contributing to society" for meme purposes, immediately forgot the context, and I still felt like I got way more out of the show than most people did. When I heard they were making more, my thoughts were in order: 1) "Oh." 2) "Huh..." and 3) "Why?" EDIT: Hey, so I just saw that Peter Grill got a sequel, so I just want to apologize to Classroom of the Elite, and retract this comment.
@Lianpe98
@Lianpe98 Жыл бұрын
😂
@MV96_
@MV96_ Жыл бұрын
The blond guy must be a LOLbertarian, then
@Ben-vg6ox
@Ben-vg6ox Жыл бұрын
They make more seasons of anime to sell source material most of the time, COTE is quite beloved in the light novel front
@TheSkaOreo
@TheSkaOreo Жыл бұрын
Oh god I was rolling my eyes so hard when edge lord MC basically went “we live in a society”.
@philo2189
@philo2189 Жыл бұрын
@@MV96_ Republicans don't exactly contribute to society either
@binbix1
@binbix1 Жыл бұрын
I think the thing that annoyed me the most about this anime isn’t that the schemes and plans are riddled with plot holes but that I didn’t even notice those plot holes until you pointed them out. I was just going through thinking I might have missed something important whenever something they did didn’t make sense. Man I feel like an idiot
@Ishigami_kyo
@Ishigami_kyo Жыл бұрын
It's because they skip important details from the original source material.
@WatcherofVideosSometimes
@WatcherofVideosSometimes Жыл бұрын
The anime's appeal is "Oh look, this 'bad guy' had a scheme that the MC saw through. LOOK HOW INTELLIGENT THE MC IS!" And young teenagers are like "WOAH! HE'S SO SMART!"
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
It's sad
@ICanHazRecon911
@ICanHazRecon911 Жыл бұрын
I checked out this anime because my homies were hyping it up and when i finished and called it "the most mid, 'i'm 14 and this is deep' hunger games generic faction based bullshit" they seemed upset... but at least it was a good way to confirm they had shit taste quickly lol... and my homies are in their 20's
@Loppoz56
@Loppoz56 Жыл бұрын
@@ICanHazRecon911 lol
@triggerfairy4070
@triggerfairy4070 Жыл бұрын
Discount Kiaba then?
@arshyarshy4414
@arshyarshy4414 Жыл бұрын
no lol the light novel is extremely different
@Pikachugecko
@Pikachugecko Жыл бұрын
I can't unsee Ayanokoji as basically edgy Italy from Hetalia.
@demongoose666
@demongoose666 Жыл бұрын
OH NO
@denjidenji9162
@denjidenji9162 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, i never thought of it, but now that you mentioned it I will never unsee it nooooo
@lordarthur2165
@lordarthur2165 Жыл бұрын
STOP NOW I CAN'T UNSEE THIS NOOOOO
@msaag5490
@msaag5490 Жыл бұрын
Isn't Hetalia that one show from 2010? Good God, that's 12 years ago.
@denjidenji9162
@denjidenji9162 Жыл бұрын
@@msaag5490 indeed. It also has a manga and several seasons. The most recent season came out last year, actually!
@fredrickum5474
@fredrickum5474 Жыл бұрын
This is like the perfect blend of anime that I hate, the type that you couldn't pay me to watch - A high school setting with characters that act like no teenager that has ever existed (Check) - Student led organizations that act like crime families, where being part of that group or class is their entire identity (Check) - An edgy cool guy protagonist that is apparently the smartest guy ever, but also doesn't care about anything because he's so cool (Check) - Mind games that take 10 minutes to explain because telling and not showing is way easier than coming up with clever solutions to problems (Check) - A large cast that is stretched so thin that we never get to see characters interact or form real bonds with each other since any screen time they have will exist solely to move the plot forward (Check) - A harem of girls that somehow all look 11 & 30 at the same time, all with stupid hair colors (Check) - A plot that doesn't demand such a serious tone, yet the characters will take the whole thing deadly seriously 100% of the time until there's a "funny" fanservice moment, which will be the only humor in the show (Check) - Top it off with an anime art style that somehow looks generic and ugly at the same time, with a candy colored palette that makes my eyes bleed (Check) ugh.
@mudita4449
@mudita4449 Жыл бұрын
Omg you literally took words out of my mouth 👁👄👁
@lightyagami4560
@lightyagami4560 Жыл бұрын
Ahem ahem this is cringe I know but sir you dropped this. 👑. Ayankoji and cote cult in nutshell
@si-level
@si-level Жыл бұрын
1. this is kinda subjective, you cannot prove that no teenager act like in the anime 2. well it is what makes anime with school genre interesting 3. this is not true, he care about his freedom and lot of stuff, but in anime the show only show he care about his freedom and living as normal kid 4. i'm pretty sure the protagonist and the anime show and tell the solution to problem, regarding it is clever or not its just bac to subjectivity 5. that just storywriting 101. wtf is real bond anyway. i think that problem will get slightly fixed the more you read/watch this series 6. problem with design choice. the design supposed to make you distinguish each character. with the way school has uniform to obey. it seems like you will hate every school anime then 7. the only humor in the show ? the fanservice is not even funny. at this point you didn't even try 8. this is sound like your only problem. also this is like the same as 6
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions Жыл бұрын
@@si-level Identifying a problem as common to a genre doesn't stop it being bad, it just escalates the problem.
@si-level
@si-level Жыл бұрын
@@UnreasonableOpinions yeah sure ofc whatever you said, it means you will hate 98% of the media to offer.
@camelloy
@camelloy Жыл бұрын
I watched half way through season 1, when that one girl turned out to be evil I was like “oh there’s hidden depth here! Can’t wait to see where this goes.” Then they had the water park episode and it completely lost me.
@jgih32
@jgih32 Жыл бұрын
@Hidetaka Miyazaki No it is canon, i think everything in the anime and Ln are canon
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Жыл бұрын
Just Just make fucking Junko Enoshima If you wanna have a sociopathic intelligent female villain, just look at HER. JUnko's FUN.
@omnipayne861
@omnipayne861 Жыл бұрын
@Hidetaka Miyazaki it is canon, it’s just pretty much a side chapter in a much later volume.
@DrGandW
@DrGandW Жыл бұрын
I read the LN mid-season 2 and felt retroactively betrayed that they heavily edited one chapter of a side book that came after the events of season 1 and made it into a full episode just so they could have a pool episode. The LN is straight up a different experience.
@omnipayne861
@omnipayne861 Жыл бұрын
@@sarafontanini7051 junko wouldn’t fit in with the story, she doesn’t even fit with her own story.
@VAWM.
@VAWM. Жыл бұрын
After watching this entire video, I can't help but feel... that Geoff is going to read the light novels. No one denies something that fervently without secretly planning to do it. XD
@rafal5863
@rafal5863 Жыл бұрын
The lady doth protest too much.
@Nyaajita
@Nyaajita Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe him but I’d love to see his thoughts on it, especially considering how well-regarded it is compared to its… lesser counterpart…
@nigellanjuat3294
@nigellanjuat3294 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a nightmares
@darkvoid221
@darkvoid221 Жыл бұрын
@@Nyaajita I'm reading the light novel right now and honestly really enjoy it. Does the anime not do it justice?
@Nyaajita
@Nyaajita Жыл бұрын
@@darkvoid221 if you’ve watched the anime and read the LN, yeah, the anime doesn’t do it justice. It’s held in very high regard in comparison. You’ll hear that the anime is a horrible adaptation from just about most LN readers.
@nyschoxuan5241
@nyschoxuan5241 Жыл бұрын
As a Light novel reader of the series, it was sad to see how badly they butchered the anime, a lot of source material was cut and a whole novel was cut, the anime is fine as a stand alone series but compared to the LN, its like apples and oranges. Though I hope the anime brings more people to read the Novels
@RGC_animation
@RGC_animation Жыл бұрын
It's more like Green Apples and Red Apples, they're both apples so you can compare them, they both still taste like apples, so similar, but one is clearly better than the other.
@newleafoverit
@newleafoverit Жыл бұрын
@@RGC_animation ikts more like a red apple and a spoiled apple. clearly one is trash and the other is good
@hiro_444
@hiro_444 Жыл бұрын
Does the light novel solve any of the issues that are mentioned in the video? If yes, which ones?
@Plz23
@Plz23 Жыл бұрын
@@hiro_444 it solves almost all of them just by being more drawn out and better explained. I would recommend to experience it on ur own.
@jacobnorris8256
@jacobnorris8256 Жыл бұрын
They didn't really butcher the anime that badly... They definitely fucked up some parts but people really exaggerate how much better the LNs are.
@prod.a.b.i.l1930
@prod.a.b.i.l1930 Жыл бұрын
"She's just Mami Nanami without the charisma" couldn't have said it better myself
@cadethumann8605
@cadethumann8605 Жыл бұрын
I just realized that one of those despicable characters has her last name identical to the first name of Kamisama Kiss' MC, Nanami Momozono. Quite ironic how the latter is the complete opposite (a generally nice person with occasional moments of anger or spunk) to the former (a toxic and smug POS who pretends to be nice). Admittedly, a bizarre excuse for a comment of mine, but whatever.
@SeanR794
@SeanR794 2 жыл бұрын
That opening quote summed it up pretty well honestly 😂
@Cecil97
@Cecil97 Жыл бұрын
16:15 basically highlights my problems with the anime, just so much subtle information was cut out.
@moemuxhagi
@moemuxhagi Жыл бұрын
Even though the japanese text litterally says "this text is filler" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lillion9134
@lillion9134 Жыл бұрын
As a female 26yr old I feel like I may not be the target audience for this show, or at least the main demographic it appeals to, but I actually really enjoy it for reasons that I haven't actually seen anyone saying. The protagonist doesn't really interest me, what interests me is the effect he has on other people. Out of the other characters I feel like Kei might be the one I identify with most, or at least did as a teenager. Throughout season 2 and primarily the last few episodes it was genuinely chilling to see how she was manipulated by someone using her trauma against her. Someone who wasn't even pretending to be a nice guy, who fed her tiny crumbs of compassion. How in her state she placed such a huge value on those and how she thinks that she's had a breakthrough when she's actually falling into an abusive relationship in a way that I have seen people with awful self-esteem do irl far too many times. How Kiyotaka's edgy boy I feel no empathy monologues are juxtaposed with the emotions the swelling music and wholesome visuals (the Christmas date scenes in particular) tease from the viewer as we are pre-conditioned to associate them with boy-meets-girl romances, creating a truly uncomfortable viewing experience. Granted I haven't read the LNs and seem to have a different perception of events to most other people I've seen in the comments sections, so I do feel like I might be experiencing a different story to what's actually being told. Nonetheless I'm enjoying the psychological distress of wanting to shout through the screen at Kei telling her to get away from him whilst she is already justifying his behaviour to her.
@skyking4557
@skyking4557 Жыл бұрын
Atleast,Ayanokouji tried his best to make her as prioritas because he want to learn more about human emotion from her
@Malvium
@Malvium Жыл бұрын
@@skyking4557 Still doesn't justify the fact that he manipulated a emotionally scarred teenage by using her past trauma against her.
@offof
@offof Жыл бұрын
To me, the best anime are the ones that make you rethink life and every decision you’ve made. This made me think if there were any Ayanokojis in my life, and whatever effect they may have had on me. At times, I was genuinely disgusted about what I saw. Such horrible feelings can only be earned, not forced.
@DBZHGWgamer
@DBZHGWgamer Жыл бұрын
@@Malvium You're right that it doesn't justify it. The point is that Ayanokoiji is a terrible person and he hates himself and his father for making him that kind of person. Ultimately it's a balance of how he's manipulative and values people only for what they can do to help him, but he also happens to be in a situation where the best course of action he sees is creating situations so that the people around him can overcome themselves and grow as people in order to be more useful to him. Even Karuizawa ends up a stronger person because of the terrible things he has done. And this is what makes me keep reading the books, it's very interesting the way the author balances this act of a bad person who does manipulative things that have a very positive effect on the people around him purely for his own benefit. And he himself being acutely aware of how bad the things he is doing are and hating himself for it, but he has to do it anyway both because it's the only way he knows how to live and also because he's in a situation where he is forced to act that way in order to have just a taste of a normal life before being dragged back under the control of his father.
@matalinoe4059
@matalinoe4059 Жыл бұрын
13:06 His motivation is like that in the light novel, more specifically though it's to prove to his father that there is something to learn by forming "actual" relationships.
@pasindudinusha6507
@pasindudinusha6507 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't that make his line about other people being pawns in his plans meaningless?
@swordyshield
@swordyshield Жыл бұрын
@@pasindudinusha6507 yes that's the point. That's his "white room" persona which is meant to defend himself which is what views people as pawns, he does not actually think like that in average day to day life unless he is threatened.
@lightyagami4560
@lightyagami4560 Жыл бұрын
@@swordyshield That why he saved kusida and expelled airi after that the conversation with teacher ayankoji is called monster 😂🤦‍♂️ to make him look cool and evil genius.. mind it, It happens in Volume volume 16
@temporalwolf7054
@temporalwolf7054 Жыл бұрын
Okay, I can't lie. Danganronpa has poisoned my brain. The whole school setup is just Hope's Peak, without the same execution. Literally *and* figuratively.
@BowserGlazer
@BowserGlazer Жыл бұрын
Allow me to explain as a standard fan of the series. I imagine my story is a common one. I watched season one and was somewhat intrigued, but saw everyone complaining about how they butchered the source material. I then read the light novels and holy shit were they amazing. I at this point only watch the anime out of curiosity and to see my favorite moments animated/voiced no matter how butchered
@asmokingp3005
@asmokingp3005 Жыл бұрын
you got admit that fight scene at the end was not bad
@someguyy194_2
@someguyy194_2 Жыл бұрын
The same thing for me, It’s disappointing that the anime put off people from reading the light novel like Mother’s Basement when it’s so good
@Venjamin
@Venjamin Жыл бұрын
That very gentle "Seriously. Enjoy it." At the end made me feel some weird contentment for my own childhood anime obsessions, so thanks.
@In-The-Zone
@In-The-Zone Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Jeff went out of his way to not say "Imposter", saying "Alien" instead, now thats SUS.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Жыл бұрын
It's possible that he's even more out of touch with the under-30's than he realized.
@iamliterallyderanged5461
@iamliterallyderanged5461 Жыл бұрын
I was literally waiting for the opening to be a gag where you go "Wait, sorry, wrong script. That was Baka and Test" and was thoroughly SHOCKED when that was not the case. I was waiting for the punchline right up until you actually mentioned Baka and Test
@iamliterallyderanged5461
@iamliterallyderanged5461 6 ай бұрын
Rewatching older videos as background noise while I'm cleaning house right now, and I stopped at 3:55 and literally said out out loud to myself "Wait, this is Baka and Test" went to the comment section to see if anyone agreed, and then immediately saw my own one year old comment. So. I suppose I still think the same exact way. And this set-up is still Baka and Test.
@heibk-2019
@heibk-2019 Жыл бұрын
What always got me are the quotes at the beginning that give off these "uhh im so smart" vibes, while its really not that crazy and the story is full of plotholes
@Alonkis251
@Alonkis251 Жыл бұрын
Just for record, reading quote book doesn't make you smart, if these was the anime creator intent, then this weird way to think
@ttw-uu4gh
@ttw-uu4gh Жыл бұрын
most times it's just a principle that makes sense to the episodes ocurrences, not actually something meant to be like ''wow so insightful''
@TheRandomThings23
@TheRandomThings23 Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the anime? What plot holes are you referring to?
@lightyagami4560
@lightyagami4560 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRandomThings23 17:23 There are more wait
@lightyagami4560
@lightyagami4560 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRandomThings23 25:06 like seriously so many plot holes
@kylecyrus9457
@kylecyrus9457 Жыл бұрын
I actually rather liked Kushida's backstory. There was no sad revelations or attempts to get you to sympathize with her (which is a rare commodity nowadays), it just showed how dangerous and kinda unhinged she is. It even works as a good explanation for why she's such a crap villain. She tore her class apart a year ago, it makes sense she thinks she's the goat, but it's evident by how she couldn't get attention any other way than being a pleasant doormat that she's not actually that skilled at most things. This isn't to say I disagree with your take on this show, or even that scene as a whole (her telling them was pretty contrived), just sharing something I liked about the show.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb Жыл бұрын
I thought that being the whole big deal she was trying to keep secret was dumb as hell, it made no sense that she managed to "tear" apart the class whatever the hell that even means, she's not dangerous at all
@kylecyrus9457
@kylecyrus9457 Жыл бұрын
@@Dell-ol6hb really? In respect to her hiding it, do note that her goal is simply to be loved and trusted by the class, her tearing the class apart is just a threat and not her goal. Just being known as someone who can't keep a secret would hamper her goal, much less the knowledge that she showed genuine malice. As for her being dangerous, as far as I know even the closest people tend to have things about each other they don't like. People learn what to not say to keep a friendship as they grow up, but humans are social, and all it takes is someone being absent for a day for their friends to shit talk them a little. Kushida collects all this info, she weaves herself seamlessly into every group while seeming innocent, and if she airs that all out people will naturally feel betrayed by those close to them and turn on each other. Kushida is dangerous not because of intelligence or strength, but because of how well she can hide her malice, and her lack of attachment to thise she spends time with. The ultimate ability of a spy is not the ability to get out of sticky situations, but rather the ability to make no one even think they're a spy in the first place. Well, that's how I saw it anyway. She's overestimating herself though, the moment she was outed she already lost this confrontation.
@Bandera51
@Bandera51 Жыл бұрын
It was straight up goofy 😂
@gatling216
@gatling216 2 жыл бұрын
I think high school me would have loved this, because high school me was a maladapted gifted kid who spent a lot of time imagining the brilliant ways he could play his classmates like fiddles if only he could be bothered. Which, I gather, isn’t uncommon for maladapted gifted kids, especially not the ones who got bullied. Then I hit a growth spurt and discovered the joys of weightlifting, and suddenly that stopped being a problem. Fifteen years later, the idea makes me cringe so hard my face threatens to collapse.
@SinHurr
@SinHurr Жыл бұрын
Do not cringe at your past cringe. Embrace the fact that you no longer cringe.
@aryapratama5648
@aryapratama5648 Жыл бұрын
If you geting cringed at your past then you are an adult, that is a good thing👍
@aryapratama5648
@aryapratama5648 Жыл бұрын
If you geting cringed at your past then you are an adult, that is a good thing👍
@Ben-vg6ox
@Ben-vg6ox Жыл бұрын
I'm actually so amazed at how vain high school people are, is it really so common that people think themselves are similar to Ayanokouji
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Everyone has their past cringe they fear comimg tolight source, gringe a fun crazy ex girlriend song and oy is the show good whn it keeps going
@Minihood31770
@Minihood31770 Жыл бұрын
I remember falling off around the boobie grab blackmail. I remember being both bored and confused. Glad to hear I didn't miss anything.
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Жыл бұрын
I remember liking season 1 when I first watched it, but being puzzled because she could just SAY he assaulted her.
@wdcain1
@wdcain1 Жыл бұрын
I was willing to give that a pass since in Japan, getting accused of a crime is akin to being found guilty. An accusation even without evidence really can wreck your life over there.
@arshyarshy4414
@arshyarshy4414 Жыл бұрын
give the light novel a shot, it’s 100 times better
@Zlyde007
@Zlyde007 Жыл бұрын
@@arshyarshy4414 nah, if the author was soulless enough to sell the rights for this kind of adaptation, they don't deserve support. clearly, they don't respect their own work.
@quangamng
@quangamng Жыл бұрын
@@Zlyde007 I mean ,what if this is a another case of Tokyo Ghoul/Berserk bad adaptation ?Sorry if I being wrong because I don't know much about light novel adaptation nor light novel in general
@RayGainbows
@RayGainbows Жыл бұрын
Lost it at "fake ass bitches" 🤣😂 Kikyo adds spice to the whole anime 😅
@esdeath5301
@esdeath5301 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this is a thing, I’ve been clueless as to why this is so popular
@elstonngunn4193
@elstonngunn4193 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s the main character and that’s it I watched the show cus I wanted to know more abt him only reason I kept watching I like the show but if ayanokoji wasn’t there I’d drop it immediately
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
The LN is what made the anime popular. LN has a pretty large fanbase alone by itself and most of the people in the fanbase loathes the existence of the anime LOL. What they did to COTE literally gave me flashbacks on Tokyo Ghoul anime adaptation
@esdeath5301
@esdeath5301 Жыл бұрын
@@solarmars7950 do you recommend the LN?
@asanohibari
@asanohibari Жыл бұрын
@@esdeath5301 Of course, the only way to actually enjoy the series lol.
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
@@esdeath5301 yes of course. LN is much much better than the anime. LN Ayanokoji had so much character depth to be honest. The anime portrayed his fucked up defense mechanism which is we called "WR persona" very well but failed to portray his personality (yes he have an actual personality that the first time I read I'm surprised this dude doesn't think like an edgelord 100% of the time.LOL) That tool monologue is glorified in the anime but in context it's actually sad because all of his life he was treated like a tool/product so the dude developed a twisted perspective in human relationships. LN Ayanokoji is a perfect example of a morally gray character
@jasonguarnieri4127
@jasonguarnieri4127 Жыл бұрын
After two full seasons, the most interesting thing about Ayanokoji is the fact that his name has five syllables in it.
@arshyarshy4414
@arshyarshy4414 Жыл бұрын
lol he has a lot of depth in the light novel
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
@@arshyarshy4414 nobody asked
@arshyarshy4414
@arshyarshy4414 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 it’s okay honestly, re zero pfps are always a fat W
@kaiwardinofficial9686
@kaiwardinofficial9686 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 L
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
@@kaiwardinofficial9686 the only L is thinking this is good Pls stfu about the LN I never asked or cared
@aeso3555
@aeso3555 Жыл бұрын
Ayaknokoji is the type of character I would write during my edge 13 year old phase while trying to emulate Light Yagami and then look back on it as an adult and cringe at what I created. Also cracks me up that he's voiced by Justin Briner in the EN dub, the same guy who voiced Izuku Midoriya in the MHA dub and those two couldn't be any more different.
@aeso3555
@aeso3555 Жыл бұрын
@@ricochetbabalon257 I still remember the edgy oc my cousin created as a kid : Ricky the ultimate Beyblader 😁
@AeonKnigh432
@AeonKnigh432 8 ай бұрын
I mean. Deku is also a selfish narcissist, but that author just hasn't realized it.
@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo
@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo 6 ай бұрын
​@@AeonKnigh432how Deku is a selfish narcissist ?
@fable2830
@fable2830 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I clicked so fast I don't expect him to say anything good about the anime we Cote fanboys already know how bad the anime is compared to the novels I just wanna see him roast the shit out of the anime for the shits and giggles. Edit: I'd love to see him read the novels and compare it to the anime, would really like to see how much his opinion would possibly change.
@zayanfoyez9465
@zayanfoyez9465 2 жыл бұрын
no literally i was so hyped to see this notification edit: i'm not a cote fan i genuinely hate this show
@grigorigahan
@grigorigahan 2 жыл бұрын
Is it though? I hear this a lot with trainwreck anime. I watched a couple episodes of the first season with my wife a couple days back and that was all it took for me to stop. Its not a troll question -- legitimately curious. It just seemed generic in every sense -- which is fine, but it doesn't even execute well on playing safe.
@fable2830
@fable2830 2 жыл бұрын
@@grigorigahan yes it is it's very true especially with Cote the anime and novels are almost different stories at times there is so much more nuanced writing that goes into the light novels it's insane all of that is lost in the anime it's not rare for light novels to have really bad adaptions this is just a very extreme case especially when you look into it and understand just how bad it is.
@spacepouge
@spacepouge Жыл бұрын
@@grigorigahan theres a reason why cote is ranked within top 20 manga/ln on mal
@gamecrab1015
@gamecrab1015 Жыл бұрын
@@grigorigahan while it does seem like a task, honestly do read the light novel, it’s really good. You can try and pick up from start of season 2 or wherever you left off, but you can instantly tell the difference and you’ll be more engaged because it makes the mc so much more human and relatable in a way.
@Only_Ameen04
@Only_Ameen04 2 жыл бұрын
You know there's certain satisfaction seeing a series that you hate but many love it being roasted by someone you know
@HellOzzzGaming
@HellOzzzGaming Жыл бұрын
Read the ln and u will probably love it.
@richie_0740
@richie_0740 Жыл бұрын
same, i didnt see the appeal of this anime
@abidyo
@abidyo Жыл бұрын
i thought the same thing, amen brudder
@fable2830
@fable2830 Жыл бұрын
I mean the fans of the franchise hate the anime we know it's bad the light novels are what people praise and rightfully so
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
@@HellOzzzGaming that shit is mid too lol
@scooterliar8830
@scooterliar8830 Жыл бұрын
Just read the LN. I initially watched the anime and I thought it was pretty mid. I didn’t really feel like I will enjoy reading light novels(in general) so I didn’t give it a try. But when I did it was amazing. There’s a reason why it’s one of the highest LN on MAL. Keep in mind that I know not everyone would love it, but I highly recommend it.
@hujimix
@hujimix Жыл бұрын
Being highly rated on a site that has been proven over and over being vote manipulated by bots means absolutely squat.
@swordyshield
@swordyshield Жыл бұрын
@@hujimix that has no impact, the highest rated things are usually not botted votes
@LauraLovesHugs
@LauraLovesHugs Жыл бұрын
@@swordyshield not true at all lol, most infamously any time anything approaches FMAB it gets immediately swarmed by vote manipulators rating the shows a 0 in order to keep FMAB on top. there's a really big amount of people willing to manipulate scores on MAL for some reason.
@swordyshield
@swordyshield Жыл бұрын
@@LauraLovesHugs then those votes get removed since (at least mal) removes bot votes..
@LauraLovesHugs
@LauraLovesHugs Жыл бұрын
@@swordyshield i mean they're not, they permanently affect the scores of those other shows, it's not all bots either, they're just mass rating the shows with 0s and 1s to make the score drop without even watching it
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 2 жыл бұрын
Reminder, to any of you creatives out there, writers and the like: If you are ever in the position to get an adaptation of your work made. KEEP. CREATIVE CONTROL. AT ALL COSTS. Take a pay cut, tell the people asking to fuck off and wait for someone else to come along. They WILL do this to your stories and the only people who will EVER get screwed is YOU when they turn your signature radioactive to critics and audiences alike. Plant your feet on creative veto power and stay there until someone either plays ball or you die of old age. The payout from an adaptation is not worth THIS becoming what your story is
@tutumazibuko2510
@tutumazibuko2510 2 жыл бұрын
Dude chill out lol. It's because of this adaptation that people even give a shit about the source material enough to give a read.
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 2 жыл бұрын
@@tutumazibuko2510 Well "dude" why did an anime studio fucking pay for it if nobody gave a shit already?
@leka2095
@leka2095 Жыл бұрын
@@amandak.4246 shhhh... let them be. dude probably thinks anime/light novel industry needs the west to survive. just smile and wave politely and they will leave you alone
@Rudoku1
@Rudoku1 Жыл бұрын
@@tutumazibuko2510The Promised Neverland 2 proved that long ago.
@alibrennan5977
@alibrennan5977 Жыл бұрын
*Coughcough*HBO Max*cough*Disney*coughcough*😷
@NexusVFD
@NexusVFD Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: You can be an adult and still enjoy trash for the trash that it is
@petrsevcik5044
@petrsevcik5044 Жыл бұрын
Correction: You *need* to be adult enough to enjoy trash for the trash it is
@Mezmorizorz
@Mezmorizorz Жыл бұрын
Even by trash standards it's not very good though. I enjoyed it when it came out and was just one season well enough, but that was because I didn't share his hate of Suzune (though I can't say he's wrong about her character) and it's not revealed until the very, very end that his superpower is quite literally being a sociopath. They definitely hinted at there being more than meets the eye with him, but I was expecting there to be more than meets the eye and not "I don't even see you as a person." Maybe it'll turn a new leaf and only S2 will be truly awful, but I'm not optimistic.
@zodra9509
@zodra9509 Жыл бұрын
I like watching garbage kids be garbage to each other in a competition to see who can be king garbage, and thats why I’ve been watching this anime.
@ttw-uu4gh
@ttw-uu4gh Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I've always been very well aware of how objectively-trash that anime is from all sides, but it didn't stop me from enjoying it and even getting to love it. Sometimes we just like stupid things and we shouldn't be ashamed of it.
@brimward122
@brimward122 Жыл бұрын
Compared to other mind game series, classroom of the elite is very boring.
@Fallenangel_85
@Fallenangel_85 10 ай бұрын
One shouldn't forget that Eminence in the Shadow was also very popular, so this type of main protagonist really hits teens hard. (and people who refuse to growth out of being teens)
@AeonKnigh432
@AeonKnigh432 8 ай бұрын
The difference is that Eminence in Shadow is actually good
@Fallenangel_85
@Fallenangel_85 8 ай бұрын
@@AeonKnigh432 It's good, but it also has it's flaws. The MC drives me insane sometimes.
@bubbasbigblast8563
@bubbasbigblast8563 Жыл бұрын
Classroom of the Elite is something I could be a lot more chartable with if *Welcome to Demon School! Iruma-kun* wasn't basically the same premise, but with, you know...actual charm, compelling characters, and a more imaginative school.
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
This anime is just a shitty version of assassination classroom without the interesting character,good animation,good character writing etc
@Oneforus21111
@Oneforus21111 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 Fruit of Grisaia handled it better than Classroom of the Elite
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
@@Oneforus21111 fruit of grisaia is another generic self insert wish fulfillment mid series
@DarkSideOfMirror
@DarkSideOfMirror Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 At least the Light novel is much better.
@DrGandW
@DrGandW Жыл бұрын
I don’t think either of these comparisons are appropriate in the least but I like the series being brought up so I’ll just enjoy the fact that they’re getting praise
@riceboyy__
@riceboyy__ Жыл бұрын
I love how there’s more animation in a wine glass shown 22:53 than the rest of the anime
@TheSchokodragon
@TheSchokodragon Жыл бұрын
That wine glass must be aCGI 3D model - a pretty good-looking one! Which ends up being a bad thing coz it then contrasts so harshly against the ultra-mid artstyle of everything else
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Жыл бұрын
Wine doesn't have much anatomy to worry about.
@Kick0a0cat
@Kick0a0cat Жыл бұрын
I feel the need to point out that I once won as an imposter in among us in an extremely stupid way: Someone saw me venting and I simply stated "sometimes you gotta let your friends vent" and somehow that worked :D
@ibrahimzeyani1634
@ibrahimzeyani1634 2 жыл бұрын
Ayanokoji already knew you were gonna make this vid on this exact date. Singing his praises to get more people to know of his existence. Sasuga Ayanokoji-sama
@samshapira8295
@samshapira8295 Жыл бұрын
Hello there! Allow me to say that as an avid reader of Infinite Dendrogram, I'm so glad to know the Classroom of the Elite fans share in our suffering of having a bad light novel adaptation.
@llolichannel
@llolichannel 2 жыл бұрын
The novels are really good though, the main character monologues are really good and the games made a lot more interesting. The anime has very few good points, mainly the island exam and the final conflict with Ryuen, but character motivations are almost entirely skipped in the adaptation. In the novels, by the end of the first year, almost all of the characters in class D has had some kind of character arc and progression, it’s really interesting to see how things progress!
@cootie911sm
@cootie911sm Жыл бұрын
"He just like me" LMAOOOO
@ashleightompkins3200
@ashleightompkins3200 2 жыл бұрын
I really need to read these damn light novels! I first believed this was going to be a story of Kaguya-Sama level mind games.
@MrAnonymousme10
@MrAnonymousme10 Жыл бұрын
you really need to.
@Nyaajita
@Nyaajita Жыл бұрын
I can’t speak of what your experience will be or anyone else’s for that matter, but I was on my seat more times reading the LN than I had reading a lot of other stuff, pretty good stuff might I add.
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
Well in the light novel mind games are literally top tier. Every volume has hidden plots like I'm actually mad on how they did COTE dirty
@DrGandW
@DrGandW Жыл бұрын
The LN is an awesome experience… starting in Volume 3. I don’t exactly hate the first two volumes… just doesn’t match up to the rest of the series.
@MozillaVulpix
@MozillaVulpix Жыл бұрын
I started watching this anime recently waiting for the twist that they all had to compete in a big dumb Battle Royale or something. It being done by the Danganronpa and Assassination Classroom anime studio didn't help that assumption. But then realising it was all about mind games and not even well-done mind games with 1000% more fanservice scenes made me drop it real fast.
@hollowshield2315
@hollowshield2315 Жыл бұрын
trust me I wasn't a fan of fan service either. it gets alot better in s2
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Жыл бұрын
Assassination Classroom didn't really have any battle royale scenes. The closest is the civil war, and even that was not really a battle royale.
@MozillaVulpix
@MozillaVulpix Жыл бұрын
@@MrGksarathy They were learning how to kill people, though
@WickedKnightAlbel
@WickedKnightAlbel Жыл бұрын
This fact this shitshow manages to make AssClass and the utterly worthless DR1 anime look good in comparison is possibly the most brutal insult an anime series can receive
@philo2189
@philo2189 Жыл бұрын
Idk how people like assassination classroom I thought it was insanely terrible
@ovengatland4225
@ovengatland4225 Жыл бұрын
I was worried this would be a video about the light novels being horrible, not the anime. Glad this was not the case. After reading the novels, I can say that they were okay and in some parts great (I can’t say the same for the anime adaptation). Cutting Ayanokojis inner dialogue in the anime made his actions seem random as we never understood why he was doing things or how he knew what was going on.
@Ryan-gn7up
@Ryan-gn7up 2 жыл бұрын
I would never recommend this anime to a single other human being on the planet even if you put a gun to my head........ but I absolutely love it. Best kinda absolute trash garbage.
@DrGandW
@DrGandW Жыл бұрын
I like the anime insofar as it got me to read the LN. While reading I did get upset that it changed so much for the worst but then I realized I wouldn’t have read it if the anime didn’t exist so I can’t really be mad that it exists, I just find it funny how much better it could have been if it was an actual adaptation. Except episode 7 of season 1. That shit is actually offensive. There’s just one chapter in a side book(not even main volume) that takes place after the events of season 1 where Ayanokoji sabotages some guys peeking and they radically changed the context and timeline and which characters were involved and extended it and fucked up the pacing just to fit a swimsuit pool episode in season 1. I got to the end of Volume 3, where the anime ends, was confused, got to Volume 4.5, saw the tiny amount of insignificant content that was adapted into a giant waste of time, and truly realized how little the adapters actually cared about the story they were adapting.
@SuperBeanSquad
@SuperBeanSquad Жыл бұрын
My friend recommended to me completely unironically and I will never forgive him for that. I know it's not for everyone, but his previous recommendation was Re:Zero which I really enjoyed. Going from that to... _this_ was a level of emotional whiplash I still haven't experienced in my media consumption... not because the tone is different, but because one was good and the other was complete garbage.
@swordyshield
@swordyshield Жыл бұрын
@@SuperBeanSquad was he a light novel reader by any chance?
@SuperBeanSquad
@SuperBeanSquad Жыл бұрын
@@swordyshield He was not. He doesn't read any LNs to my knowledge.
@swordyshield
@swordyshield Жыл бұрын
@@SuperBeanSquad if he was a fan of this and he is open to the idea of reading LN's he should, it's just much better and if he liked the anime then he will likely love the LN
@leviadams8777
@leviadams8777 Жыл бұрын
The kirito rick joke was worth the entire video. Very well done, Geoff. Keep up the great work!
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting into words my feelings about Light's intellect compared to other anime characters that are supposed to be geniuses but never have the same depth. I think as well that tone has a lot to do with such character types as well. Except mostly for moments with Misa and Matsuda, Death Note does try to be serious and in a way that isn't insulting, the cliche "I'm 14 and this is deep" feel that other "smart" or prodigy characters give off. I actually found myself rooting for Light (just in the name of entertainment) because he felt more grounded and believable with the pieces of his plan. The closest I've felt a character come to that has been maybe Lelouche from Code Geass and even then, I don't think Lelouche is quite on Light's level but he's still an enjoyable character (side note, the fact that they were relased the same year, but Death Note looks about five years older has always lowkey bothered me, lol. That said, the show does have a very unique aesthetic that I've yet to see replicated in any other anime, and because it stands apart in that sense, it lends an extra hand in being very rewatchable, even today).
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I personally viewed Light as way too much of an egotist who had to be helped by the plot to not get sniffed out, and Death Note did feel more like "I'm 14, and this is deep.". I'd say Lelouch was frankly the better strategist because his plans didn't rely as much on Deus Ex Machina, and his failures were mostly out of his control, except for the Black Knight betrayal.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
I think light only really shines if you have l to balance his character, and expose him for the edgy sociopathic poser he is. Cause L is smart and wise enough to not think he is above eveyone else. Or at leat he is wie nough to know th world does not revolvv around him. nor dos it have to. An lelousch actually is a good person, and i love that he i a theatre kid at heard and channeling that into hi perormance and uses theatralic as weapon , i mean it can be very forced but lelouchs actor really makes it entertaining. And about lelouchs fragile emotional state. Fun
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Жыл бұрын
@@MrGksarathy Light definitely was an egotist but I appreciated that it was done in a way to show his weaknesses and not make him all-powerful, such as falling into L's initial trap with the Lind L. Taylor stunt. However, giving some criticisms, I wasn't crazy about the way they did Naomi Misora's death, an FBI agent who could've just told Light to back to hell off from following her around and to not trust anyone, given that Kira had killed her fiancé. I would've also deducted a few extra points for him having both Misa and Kiyomi, the reporter, wrapped around his finger but given the recent rise of serial killer worship on the heels of some of Netflix's new shows...that no longer feels like a stretch, lol. Overall though, I feel they did a great job with showing and not just telling us about his intellect, which is what I feel happens with most other anime. I think I'll always also like Death Note a tinge more because it's not as political and full of mechs like Code Geass 😅. No shade to CG, I think I've watched both shows about the same amount of times, have even taken on new subscriptions in the name of ensuring I can rewatch specifically the English dub of Code Geass, lol! But I've never been a huge mech fan. It gets the honor of being perhaps my only exception.
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Жыл бұрын
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley I actually like Code Geass because of the overt anti-fascism and anti-imperialism, and truth be told, it's biggest flaw to me is that it doesn't go deep enough into either. Also, Death Note is very political, and I think the message it tries to send about the futility of brute force to deter crime is a good one. Still, I do think Light is a psychopathic poser, was never really impressed by his intellect because of his laughably childish moral sense, and loved how Matsuda was the one who ultimately killed him.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Жыл бұрын
@@MrGksarathy I can certainly see your points. Maybe not quite the same way I viewed the show, but yeah, I see what you're getting at.
@wraith.ferron
@wraith.ferron 2 жыл бұрын
It's not the best series. Not the worst series. Still deserving of a roast.
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 Жыл бұрын
For screwing up the adaptation of such a big brain LN. I honestly have to take breaks while reading the LN to comprehend wtf just happened.
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
This a mid series
@zeppie_
@zeppie_ Жыл бұрын
@@robbieaulia6462 Pretty sure that’s called incomprehensible writing
@feelingveryattackedrn5750
@feelingveryattackedrn5750 Жыл бұрын
It’s seriously one of the worst series I’ve forced myself to watch in a long time. It’s something that I not only could’ve, but would’ve written when I was like 15 and had terminal chuunibyou. Also as a gay man watching this, the relationships between the male and female characters are all so gross and unhealthy and the only way you could view it otherwise is if you had a borderline incel understanding of women. This is 100% not an aspirational show for teenagers to watch, even compared to like harem anime.
@18themxxn_
@18themxxn_ Жыл бұрын
weak opinion. you can only LOVE or HATE things in 2022
@longtsun8286
@longtsun8286 Жыл бұрын
The bullying automatically killed my interest in the series. As someone whom high school bullies almost turned into a MASS MURDERER because the teachers were TOO LAZY to do anything to stop such behavior, such scenes are too triggering.
@Mao_Dedong
@Mao_Dedong Жыл бұрын
I nearly forgot everything from season 1 except when they resolved an issue by pointing out that there are cameras in a staircase... like it isn't common knowledge since ep 1. And when I remember correctly they solved a second plot point the exact same way.
@Mao_Dedong
@Mao_Dedong Жыл бұрын
@CMD (ComMon Denominator)The cameras where there since the beginning (just in the blind spot of the shows pov). The rowdies just didn't considered that they could get filmed because they didn't get punished until then. The stupid part is that the anime wasted so much time for noting until something so obvious gets pointed out at the last moment.
@labibalnehal7735
@labibalnehal7735 Жыл бұрын
I don't blame you at all. S1 has no single memorable moments
@ebaka4639
@ebaka4639 2 жыл бұрын
I went into this video not thinking there would be a single flaw in one of my favorite animes but you opened my eyes
@hadesedits1501
@hadesedits1501 Жыл бұрын
You thought there were no flaws on this?
@BazzyBaka
@BazzyBaka Жыл бұрын
@@hadesedits1501 A lot of people do whenever they watch their first few anime, especially when they really really love it. I remember when I believed that Naruto was the best anime ever and that it was a masterpiece. Nowadays I know better that it simply isn’t and that it has alot flaws, especially Shipuuden.
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
If you like the anime try the LN. I may sound cultish but bro trust me LN >>>>>>> Anime>>> Manga.
@feelingveryattackedrn5750
@feelingveryattackedrn5750 Жыл бұрын
@@BazzyBaka okay but this anime is not even remotely similar to naruto in how many flaws it has or how serious it’s flaws are. This isn’t something that should’ve ever received a second season. It’s also not an aspirational piece of media for teens. Naruto was unrealistic but the values behind it were still things kids could aspire to (overcoming adversity and bullying, working together with friends, questioning societal moors, etc). What exactly are the values of this anime? You will be a lot cooler and smarter than everyone else if you treat them like shit? You’re an awesome guy you just aren’t showing your true power yet? Women love when you play hard to get and also sexually and psychologically harass them? Lol
@nokkuneinei6592
@nokkuneinei6592 Жыл бұрын
​@@feelingveryattackedrn5750 be the best as*hole and sociopath you can, just looks at how success elon and bezoz are, that is the value
@KaiAfterKai
@KaiAfterKai Жыл бұрын
This is probably my favourite junk food anime to watch. The 1000 IQ plans, the fake deep philosophy, how seriously it takes itself despite how trashy it is, Ryuen's inexplicable Big Black Bodyguard - it's fucking peak comedy What's even more fun is that the glimpses of genuinely good character writing sometimes fool me into thinking I might actually unironically be liking this show, but then Albert shows up onscreen or there's another stupid ass shot or Kushida does another dumb thing she really doesn't need to, and all I can do is sit back, grab the popcorn and laugh.
@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor Жыл бұрын
It was rough journey. I made it to the episode after the sports festival and my brain couldn't take the stupidity of these "elite" teenagers.
@theworldsmostplagiarizedma2436
@theworldsmostplagiarizedma2436 Жыл бұрын
You're definitely straddling that line where critique becomes its own artform. The subtle lip-syncs you did with your voiceover, the humor and meta-references. *chef's kiss*
@fiorno111
@fiorno111 Жыл бұрын
I feel that classroom of the elite suffers the same problem rick and morty does, being “you’re missing the point by idolizing them.” I always saw ayanokoji as the bad guy when I binged though the entirety of the anime. Otherwise, everything about this video is correct. Still enjoyed it though, 7/10 nice to binge, light novel is probably better.
@DRMaui
@DRMaui 2 жыл бұрын
I started reading the LN after being a little dissatisfied with season 2, and I have to say that it is miles, fucking miles better than the anime. It's honestly funny
@apersonontheinternet595
@apersonontheinternet595 Жыл бұрын
@Hidetaka Miyazaki I watched the anime and started the LNs a bit ago. I am on volume 7 year 1 right now.
@NerdyDumbProductions
@NerdyDumbProductions Жыл бұрын
I got the first volume on book walker, and Holy shit I prefer light novel Ayanokouji by a mile already lol P.D. Also the prologue chapter, was actually a really good and interesting way of opening up a light novel, I respect that from the author, a lot. It almost feels as though he does have a message he wants to tell, (something that is getting rarer in this modern Anime/manga/light novel day and age)
@aiki__wx
@aiki__wx Жыл бұрын
Nice to see that people are reading it and aren’t complaining about LN readers rightfully hating on season 2.
@foopygoopy1860
@foopygoopy1860 Жыл бұрын
@@NerdyDumbProductions You'll enjoy it bro. A lot of anime only's dont realize Kiyotaka isnt "emotionless". hes expressionless. He tries to fake expressions to fit in for the first volume or so? maybe two? But then we get to see the real him, the one that the anime shows from first episode right away.
@cluster4583
@cluster4583 Жыл бұрын
The ln is def better but cmon anime isn't that bad. ik they skipped alot of interesting worth adapting scenes but it still isn't a adaptation which completely ruined the story and i have faith they would just give season 3 a normal & decent adaptation to with little to no cut content
@xerxesmontes9828
@xerxesmontes9828 Жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of Classroom of the Elite. I'm not blind of the plot holes this anime has. But I am also a big fan of Mother's Basement roasts. Thank you for the laughs haha
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
Read the LN, To be honest year 1 Classroom of the Elite has little to no plot holes because the author managed those plot holes to become hidden plots for upcoming volumes. Like for the reason why didn't Ryueen judged right away that Ayanokoji's the mastermind and just put him on his sus list. LN Ayanokoji blatantly indirectly gave Ryueen fake Clues and those Clues leads to Hirata. He made the impression to Ryueen that He himself might be one of Hirata's pawns
@ahmedsabbir1952
@ahmedsabbir1952 Жыл бұрын
​@@solarmars7950 typical COTE fan, writing another paragraph just to defend his or her fav story, COTE is a mid at best story and you all know it but refuse to admit it
@pizzaboi101
@pizzaboi101 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedsabbir1952 I understand that it may be mid to many people. But if a person wants to like a piece of media that they enjoy and try to get other people to check that out. That's fine, as long as no one is getting harmed.
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedsabbir1952 I admit I'm a COTE fan but isn't it common to write a comment on why you like a series?
@ashutoshbarik7635
@ashutoshbarik7635 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedsabbir1952 if u don't like the series then don't watch it and most importantly don't spread unnecessarily hate to everyone As simple as that......
@themysticarcher3313
@themysticarcher3313 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I have pretty low standards when watching anime, but the first season of classroom of the elite was really dumb. All of Ayanokoji’s “smart” moments never hit me as all that smart. Admittedly there were some things that you pointed out as dumb that I didn’t, which just makes my dissatisfaction with the mind games so much worse. Also: I’m a teenager. You know it’s bad when the targeted audience finds it bad. It wasn’t enough to stop me from watching the series, sure, but that really says something
@solarmars7950
@solarmars7950 Жыл бұрын
The Classroom of the Elite anime adaptation reminds me of Tokyo Ghoul anime adaptation. Have a great source material but for some reason strayed away and changed some scenes from the original plot so when they decided to follow the OG source material some plot points doesn't make sense because of the bad decisions the anime studio had made.
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking Жыл бұрын
I'm 14 and I really like CoTE😍😍 The art looks amazing, The story and the mind games in this franchise is REALLY GREAT that very few manga has(Like Kaguya, Death Note, or even Erased) I like the characters especially Kiyotaka Ayanokoji. Now I don't want to say that I am him because I know I ain't😄 but I could understand where he comes from enough to compare him to me. And overall he is really cool, smart, good looking cool, And badass😎 I know he ain't originally like that in LN/Manga but Overall it's still the same message. Even tho anime slips off a bit from the LN and doesn't gave it the respect it deserves. It's just good to see it thrive😸😸
@andychip7865
@andychip7865 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if we're watching the same character but he's an actual social path.
@hadesedits1501
@hadesedits1501 Жыл бұрын
@@andychip7865 yeah it's hard to tell if this comment is a troll or not
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking Жыл бұрын
hey it's not a troll🥲 I mean all of this. Taka is all this stuff with a little pinch of crookedness☺He's just so likeable ya know
@twofinepfysche2002
@twofinepfysche2002 Жыл бұрын
I read the light novels after the first season because I enjoyed it alright and wanted to see where the story went. I remember reading a lot of them, well beyond what was officially translated, and tearing through them quickly. Five years later I don't remember much of what the light novels had, I like to imagine a lot of it was good, I like to imagine I have good taste. But now the only scene I remember from the light novels is one where all the guys have a dick measuring contest and Ayanokoji had the biggest.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc Жыл бұрын
to be fair , that's one of the funnier scenes , sometimes simple humor is best
@lightyagami4560
@lightyagami4560 Жыл бұрын
@@Marcusjnmc And that episode will get a lot of hate without a doubt since it's so uncomfortable ep,. Also that whole volume was based on boring exam I don't know what they were doing.. after the anime is adapted I know people will complain how bad it is when it's literally the same..
@flowflower2816
@flowflower2816 Жыл бұрын
.... really?
@jacobnorris8256
@jacobnorris8256 Жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says the CotE bath dick size competition chapter is objectively the best thing to have happened to fiction.
@skyking4557
@skyking4557 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah,that is the worst volume on year one.
@username-ql8ox
@username-ql8ox Жыл бұрын
Dont you compare Queen Mami to Kushieda, for all we know Kazuya is the actual villain of rent-a-gf and shes protecting us from his evil creepy ways
@robertmontague4562
@robertmontague4562 Жыл бұрын
Mami isn’t just a queen, she’s a literal angel sent to deliver us from Kazuya and deliver righteous retribution unto him
@Nico-nc5qb
@Nico-nc5qb Жыл бұрын
I read my fair share of manga/light novel and Kiyotaka might be one of the most complex characters out there: he escapes the White Room to live and experience how a normal person lives. He wants to have friends, he wants to share time with people, he wants to know what love is. He wants to be free. He doesn't want to stand out because he doesn't want to be treated as a special person. He wants to help everyone to grow and face their fears and limits, so they become better persons. He has one person that is irreplaceable to him, a girl named Kei Karuizawa. That is some stuff about light novel Kiyotaka, a person that cherishes every new situation he faces. Mainly because he knows he will have to return to the White Room at some point. Well, anime said fuck that shit, let's make him an edgy emotionless asshole. Let's put 5 light novels in 13 episodes, change dialogues and situations to make him edgy. What? He wants to be more than friends with Kei? No, no, sir. We cannot do that here, so she's a total pawn. Like, how are they gonna explain the end of Season 3 after that? The fact that they put a whole Volume in one episode(ep. 13) and changed a lot of the dialogue of the scenes they left... This anime is a freaking trainwreck, one of the worst adaptations i've ever seen. Also, Horikita is not that bad in the light novel... she ain't a blushing tsundere. She considers Kiyotaka a friend and someone she looks up to, like her brother. But Kushida... she is the worst thing and i honestly don't get why she is still there(thank you so much Horikita).
@dimitrimcintosh8858
@dimitrimcintosh8858 Жыл бұрын
More copium comments Jesus christ 🙄
@omnipayne861
@omnipayne861 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 nobody’s coping about the anime. Only the light novel.
@kabirarya5381
@kabirarya5381 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 dude are you literally going from every comment to comment of an LN reader replying "copium" without probably not having read the LN even, because that's just sad
@suyash8468
@suyash8468 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimcintosh8858 seems the one taking it is you
@JL-dm6ke
@JL-dm6ke Жыл бұрын
Alternative title: This Is Why You Should Read The Light Novel
@jacobnorris8256
@jacobnorris8256 Жыл бұрын
A lot of his criticisms apply to the LNs as well though. The LN is better, and in fact MUCH better when it comes to anything regarding Horikita, but the rest of the criticisms apply to the LNs as well (though sometimes to a lesser degree).
@slicerh248
@slicerh248 Жыл бұрын
The way I know I’ve matured in the last 5 years is that when this anime came out it was my shit. Now it’s literally hot garbage that I watch because of how funny it is.
@rearedlogarithm
@rearedlogarithm Жыл бұрын
Watching this review makes me want to watch Angel Beats again.
@JesseGolo
@JesseGolo 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... I wasn't supposed to think Ayanokoji's plan on the Island was super obvious?
@hollowshield2315
@hollowshield2315 Жыл бұрын
realizing the twist beforehand doesn't make it bad, they even say in the show that the method wasn't had to do, just come up with and execute under those circumstances. you try "Alone"ing it with a group of dysfunctional idiots against other classes and organizing that kind of plan. the only part I was really confused on was how he got permission to change leaders with only himself and maybe that other guy to testify, but made for a better reveal so I'll allow it
@matalinoe4059
@matalinoe4059 Жыл бұрын
Guessing Ayanokoji's plan beforehand is part of what makes the novel good.
@laurencebrown3822
@laurencebrown3822 Жыл бұрын
The last classroom anime I watched was Assassination Classroom, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Sounds like I'd be best to keep that the last one I've watched, for now at least.
@arshyarshy4414
@arshyarshy4414 Жыл бұрын
try the classroom of the elite light novel my guy. it’s way better than the shit anime
@hollowshield2315
@hollowshield2315 Жыл бұрын
as a big fan of the series, I was hoping a vid on it would come out on this channel. was not expecting a roast, but I'll still watch it with open eyes as soon as the goddamn internet starts working EDIT: yeah I agree the fanservice was pretty absurd, but season 2 gets a lot better with that. I haven't read the ln, but I think ayano's story is more learning empathy rather than seeking it out, which is why he still goes by white room rules. kei's entry to the story apparently happened just when she really became relevant to the story, but I do agree that she should have had the spotlight a lot earlier. However, seeing ayanokoji gradually warp hirotaka into becoming his pawn is one of the coolest things I found when rewatching the series. Class D being idiots is intentional, they're the defects after all. And the mind games are, in my opinion, really fun to watch. its more about how far can they see ahead and executing those steps rather than seeing them work on the fly. for example, ayano basically set up 4 plans in a single move by getting kei on his team. getting another tooI, protecting hirotaka from blackmail, getting kei to trust him, and controlling class c behind the scenes, effectivily giving him control over half the grade. I will agree that on the whole, there's only a few that are actually big-brained enough to be called "elite". on the whole tho, you bring up a lot of good points, and do think that s1 was the most flawed, with s2 being alot better.
@drgapinski
@drgapinski Жыл бұрын
As much as I agree with the roast, I thank Haruhi that I can embrace cringe and turn off the brain to just enjoy stuff from time to time.
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy Жыл бұрын
I almost wish I could, but for now, I just can't really.
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