My explanation of the role of the inside and outside centre in rugby union...Signed NGJ
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@lenbkula3 жыл бұрын
I just got moved into 13 from wing and was wondering about defending at this position. This video has been so educational ❤️ Thanks a bunch. I'll be sharing your channel to a couple of mates of mine who've just started playing rugby 👍 cheers mate
@roimatanui4 жыл бұрын
No.12 position changed from being another 10 ( 2nd-5-8th) to Inside Center. All Blacks played alot of Kick/pass/run playing no. 12s with Aaron Mauger, Luke McAlister and Dan Carter, who played outside Andrew Mehrtens before he played 10. Then rugby culture shifted with big, ball running 12s. Nonu adding his passing and kicking skills later made him the best in the world.
@user-eo7gl4yq2u2 жыл бұрын
NZ always had big ball running centres. That is because league players would cross code and most league forwards couldn’t adjust to being a rugby forward.
@cmwenda924 жыл бұрын
Conrad Smith? The understated glue of the All Blacks and a perfect balance with Nonu?
@TheNoahJarvis4 жыл бұрын
I agree, the stickiest Glue of them all
@alexvolkerling4 жыл бұрын
@@TheNoahJarvis Yet somehow also the slipperiest
@montynaiduki46514 жыл бұрын
well balanced duo
@JohnyTuff14 жыл бұрын
@@alexvolkerling They didnt call him "Snake" for nothing.
@tjthegreat74 жыл бұрын
The best and most perfect duo of all time
@benm13084 жыл бұрын
I was so annoyed by the lack of Jonathan Davies right till the end
@paulvallet80634 жыл бұрын
Really well made video, love how the development of the argument is kept tight despite the video being so dense. It's really nice to have some rugby footage in the background, however its relevancy to what you say could greatly be improved to make those videos even better. This way we would actually pay more attention to what's going on on the screen while listening about it, rather than having for the most part just some images to rest our eyes on while we listen to some great podcast.
@ludwigsolomona96074 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@yolodolo70304 жыл бұрын
Bro it’s weird how u always upload a video I need or want . I have been wanting to research more about benign a center Because I want to change my position I have been working hard to change my position from hooker to a center .. I play for Bermuda’s rugby team .. keep up the good work bud
@fbprofreestylers30534 жыл бұрын
I was a second row and I’m a centre now and play for Munster u19
@ghostbuckzhy10244 жыл бұрын
@@fbprofreestylers3053 I plan on changing from second row to centre aswell what would you recommend working on. I am 6"1 weighting 87kg at 13% body fat and strong but not the fastest and I am only 15
@joeyleung234 жыл бұрын
Best centres in my opinion are Ma'a Nonu, Conrad Smith, Jean de Villiers and BoD.
@MeanAzz_134 жыл бұрын
Ma'a Nonu 🇳🇿 & Danie Gerber 🇿🇦 Be my dream combo
@vernoneatwell54494 жыл бұрын
Oh, that'll be an awesome combo
@Patrick88044 жыл бұрын
the two GOATS unstoppable
@Khp19834 жыл бұрын
Danie Gerber such a great springbok if not the greatest of all time. I’m sure Naas Botha would agree
@finncostellooreilly56144 жыл бұрын
Patrick8804 maa nonu and Conrad Smith has already been proven unstoppable
@madodaludidi36964 жыл бұрын
A bit sad there's no mention of Conrad Smith or Jacques Fourie. Good video, just difficult to keep up with all the new categories of centre.
@BenLewis-ni1zb Жыл бұрын
My son now plays outside centre. I never understood this position as a number 8 but hopefully this will shed some light!
@neegee1084 жыл бұрын
You should do one of these styles of vids for all positions. For new rugby players like myself, they're invaluable. Awesome video.
@Cameron_fish4 жыл бұрын
Sam Johnson is a pretty good 12 at the moment. He runs hard and distributes well, should be starting 12 for Scotland at the World Cup and one to look out for.
@TheNoahJarvis4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of his actually, I hope he does well!
@connormacphail57894 жыл бұрын
Also a big fan 🏴
@emmeleigh23374 жыл бұрын
My 1st NGJ Rugby video. Really appreciate your efforts. Alliteration 👍. Literary references 🏆. Subject matter & opinion easy to follow 🏉🏉⭐. Examples were choice, even for this rugby neophyte from the US. Ma'a Nonu needs to be in a Black jersey come September. Also, your archive footage stunned me! Forgot that J Goodhue's hair existed before the mullet. Best of luck on the pitch & in the production booth. Cheers.
@rivingtonpike78994 жыл бұрын
On defence, 12 typically makes the most tackles of any of the backs, often double digit and may be the only double digit tackler in the backs during a game. The tackles tend to be on opposition players coming from head on. The 12 needs to be strong and powerful enough to diffuse heavy carries, including from forwards running on phase 1 and 2 ball. Think Scott Gibbs on the 1997 Lions Tour, Jamie Roberts, Ma Nonu, all big powerful guys. The 13 needs to be more rapid to cover the 13 channel, which the fast opposing backs (often the attacking fullback) will seek to exploit. 13 has to make less tackles than 12 overall but normally more than all the other backs. 13 also makes fewer head on tackles but needs to be fast and a good decision maker. Traditionally considered the hardest defensive position. Neither BOD nor Conrad Smith are huge blokes but they had the toughness, speed and decision making to be excellent defensive centres (both amazing in attack too ofc)
@carolinemamelpo979511 ай бұрын
Thank you this was quite helpful
@joneh94834 жыл бұрын
Wow! just found this channel today and i must say this is one of the most informing series about rugby on youtube, absolutely love it!🤙
@harryhoon394 жыл бұрын
OMG F-ING GOD!!!!!! why have I only just found this channel I love it. Great videos on rugby. I can't even sleep atm waiting for world cup I fucking love rugby. Very cool channel.
@Aumscuba4 жыл бұрын
Loving the background music. It's just soo beige
@callumscott9534 жыл бұрын
I think one of the variations of centers is the 'purely defensive' center. Think like a Damian de Allende type center. Who is not strong enough to be out and out crash ball and not very creative and not very good at distributing. He's basically there to make lots of tackles and be more solid than traditional centers against creative opposition backs while being just barely passable on attack. Thats what South Africa has being doing for years down the inside center channel.
@hlomlamakwetu41197 ай бұрын
this is a horrible take. Clearly don't watch the Springboks. You're using Damien's elite defensive abilities against him. He gets over the advantage line very single time. Guaranteed go forward. Admittedly a decent playmaker but his real strengths are his speed, size and agility. Even chips in at the breakdown he's basically an extra loose forward.
@pjneethling263 жыл бұрын
Quality videos. I'm subscribing. Thanks.
@louisjwiese55154 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I remember in the late 90s, under Nick Mallet's successful tutelage of the Springboks, how Pieter Muller and André Snyman was used as an effective combination. Both were legendary strongmen and so called "tough guys" locally. And were well known to physically hurt opposition players regularly in their hard style of tackling. At the same time, Muller was a good distributer, and Snyman was well known as an ex-wing and paceman on the offensive side of the game. Their combination worked especially well against the All Blacks and Wallabies. Too bad they only played a few games together, as they both were injury prone. In terms of the guys you mentioned, I am a bit surprised you didn't mention Conrad Smith, Jacques Fourie, Frank Bunce, Jason Little, or Tim Horan... Also, from what I have seen, Jean De Villiers was a decent distributer, creative player, a strong gain line attacker and also very fast. Probably because he had played as both a flyhalf and winger in his school days. I rated him and Conrad Smith way up there in terms of players who played the game in the last 10 years.
@tobystanbridge58375 ай бұрын
Best centre run bundi Aki and tuilagi (probably butches it) is a prime example of powerful 12
@ravneetram39594 жыл бұрын
Really well made..
@joshuaong55034 жыл бұрын
I love it how you keep saying Maa Nonu while showing SBW on the video. A little dig there of who should have been going to RWC2019 for sure.
@Roberto_794 жыл бұрын
Great video and well explained. I spent my playing days as an outside centre in the mould of Jeremy Guscott. Lots of pace and a decent pass off either hand. The one name you missed in your descriptions belongs to my pic as the greatest all black player of all time (yes I said that) Mr Conrad Smith.
@1Molehill3 жыл бұрын
The Scarrat/Burford combination of centres, has worked amazingly for England over the years.
@johneire31 Жыл бұрын
Brian O'Driscoll was arguably one of the best outsides that every played the game.
@bedrockballs5883 ай бұрын
Lovely video mate
@louispescheux87364 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant
@zephanish4 жыл бұрын
No Conrad smith, no Jaque Fourie, no Tim horan? Cmon man
@aotearoa4eva9242 жыл бұрын
Near the end of ma á nonus' all black career not only was he the best gain line 12 and the best distributing 12 at the same time(that long flat pass he had was beautiful) he was the best kicking 12 aswell. G.O.A.T 2ND 5
@edandchris57524 жыл бұрын
What should I do? I’m usually an outside center who converted from a winger but I will play full back and wing sometimes
@OverlapRugbyPodcast4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. Very informative and well presented. Kudos!
@TheNoahJarvis4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou man, I actually came across your channel yesterday! Keep up the good work 👌🏽
@BRUGBYHooligans4 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@niueboi4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video for Locks ? Loosies ?
@curtismartin27964 жыл бұрын
No Conrad Smith? Seriously No Conrad Smith? I just cant take this seriously sorry
@samsau60644 жыл бұрын
aslo conrad smith in nz we just call the "inside center" second five. so the backline go's first five, second five, center, right wing and left wing.
@samsau60644 жыл бұрын
and his name is nani (nah-nee) laumape
@maykay.jaykayman96474 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Davies and Conrad Smith are gods of wizardry outside centre magic.
@joshuariley92534 жыл бұрын
Tim Horan should be at the start of the conversation
@Danjobeth4 жыл бұрын
And frank bunce, aaron mauger and felipe contepomi?
@catherinelynnfraser20014 жыл бұрын
Go forward Rugby seems to be the new modern strategy.
@griffingudaitis78042 жыл бұрын
Where you have been mate? Your videos are great!
@michaelbaker74994 жыл бұрын
At around 10:56 you made a slip of the tongue. Those types of centres who put there bodies on the line are know as Brad Barritt. P.S. I wrote this before watching the whole video, pausing it at the 10:56 mark. So I didn't know you where about to bring up Barritt. Love it.
@amiengamiet68484 жыл бұрын
I don't think u gave the combination of Jean de Villiers and Jacques Fourie for the Springboks and provincial enough mention here.
@nickjohns11922 жыл бұрын
We can all agree Nonu was just a fucking beast 💪 💚🤍🧡
@brgw84 жыл бұрын
line break merchant - love it!
@elincarvalho41524 жыл бұрын
Wow, you sound so cool. Like soooooo cool!
@Ben_Dover153 жыл бұрын
Great video but no BOD clips? Or smith or de villiers
@pwrforce66523 жыл бұрын
right on with Ngani
@poe9634 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to watching Semi Radradra in full flight #WorldCup
@adamabdullah17344 жыл бұрын
Exactly what does centre does?
@inny124 жыл бұрын
Conrad Smith? Greatest 13 of all time
@fbprofreestylers30534 жыл бұрын
Tie between him and o Driscoll
@odongocronk96934 жыл бұрын
Sir snakey takes it mate
@Live.Laugh.Lobotomy4 жыл бұрын
Jacob Inerfield got to be bod
@JGDT55594 жыл бұрын
Jacques Fourie not bad either
@alexvolkerling4 жыл бұрын
Must say i feel a bit sad that Conrad wasnt mentioned in this video
@mikedangerdoes4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get a lot of ads during this? I mean, like seven or eight? Was an interesting video but hard to keep the flow going.
@guyleroux96034 жыл бұрын
Kurtley beale and Matt giteau are class for Australia
@andrewmackinnon79184 жыл бұрын
come on there average at best
@guyleroux96034 жыл бұрын
Andrew Mackinnon maybe now but in the last World Cup
@ItsjuuhsRome4 жыл бұрын
Uppercut yourself 😂😂.. they trash
@harrisonsmith78554 жыл бұрын
surely berirck barnes is the perfect example of the aussie 12
@MuddHutter14 жыл бұрын
You obviously have not heard of Tim Horan.
@zephanish4 жыл бұрын
Tim Horan is the best centre Aus has ever fielded
@etmille284 жыл бұрын
Couldn't Romain Ntamack also be concidered as a "Distributing 12" ? He played 10 for Toulouse and France and also switched to center during some games.
@mightytgaming34 жыл бұрын
Lovely🔥🔥🔥 Please do flankers next please
@NickTheSwordsman4 жыл бұрын
Flankers are some of the best athletes on the field in my opinion! Flankers are what happens when forwards think that they’re backs 😂😂
@inny124 жыл бұрын
Although centre partnerships are very important, I think the balance with the fly-half, and therefore the complete 10-12-13 combination is more important. Your 13 and 10 should match each others skill set, with the 12 as the "other" option. Say you have an attack minded 10 (Barrett, Ford, any Aussie ever, Sexton etc,), you should line up with more of a crash ball 12, and a speed merchant/ magician 13. This Attack-Defence-Attack (A-D-A) combination in the 10-12-13 provides the most balance. However, if you have a more traditional, solid, conservative 10 (Wilko, Farrell, Biggar, Steyn), you need that spark from a ball playing 12, otherwise the ball will never make it outside the 13 channel. In this scenario the 13 needs to be a ball-carrying threat, as it is essentially +1 rugby further down the line. This 10-12-13 is a Defensive-Attacking-Defensive (D-A-D) structure, and allows to play tight, but toss it out wide from centre when required. Carter-Nonu-Smith is the exception as all 3 were immaculate. But looking through international 10-12-13 combinations, the most successful ones, use that A-D-A, or D-A-D line up. Other combinations of this can be effective in one off scenarios, but for continued success this has proved to be the winning formation Centre partnerships have to compliment the 10s skill set, or you'll end up with England 2003--present.
@mahmudabdulwadud85152 жыл бұрын
what happened to England 03-present? i dont get it
@Max-js2db4 жыл бұрын
2009 Jamie Roberts 😂😂
@spenny44294 жыл бұрын
The role of a flanker next up?
@aar1967 Жыл бұрын
re: 13... Odd how little reference you make to O'Driscoll. And no mention of Conrad Smith.
@mahmudabdulwadud85152 жыл бұрын
Anyone mind to share the summary of content in the video? really appreciate it.
@sagamauga8074 Жыл бұрын
Ma'a Nonu💪
@aidandinneen77214 жыл бұрын
Imagine Nonu and O'Driscoll. They'd just pass to each other going up the pitch
@opetaiaseni1955 Жыл бұрын
Semi radradra is a center in rugby union but he's a winger in rugby league
@MrLinkinparkrules4 жыл бұрын
Oky, great! Now tell the springboks please!!!
@user-bo3ft1bp6s15 күн бұрын
Best position fly half
@dovidgoldstein27254 жыл бұрын
Make a video on the tighthead
@palochama50904 жыл бұрын
Conrad Smith was glue
@richardevans96983 жыл бұрын
Jonathon Davies And Jamie Robert’s?
@eyesack91424 жыл бұрын
Conrad Smith & Stirling Mortlock
@lipzjawz64834 жыл бұрын
Make a video on loose forwards
@williamwallace22784 жыл бұрын
BOD & D'arcy, Walter Little & Frank Bunce
@sekanssekans70594 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you neglected Conrad!
@JohnSmith-mu8zo4 жыл бұрын
5:25 my guy got clattered
@jackcarling76934 жыл бұрын
Buddy, will u get in trouble for using “real rugby” videos? P.s. good video and new names for types of players
@bremCZ4 жыл бұрын
In Ngani the Ng is pronounced like the "ng" in a soft G "ing" the phoneme in English is /ŋ/ If you struggle with /ŋ/ you're better to drop the G entirely than pronounce it hard. Many other polynesian language "ng" are pronounced the same way.
@sesetio3384 жыл бұрын
It's like saying nah but with a 'g' in between.
@bremCZ4 жыл бұрын
@@sesetio338 No its not a G sound. It's a /ŋ/ sound.
@robertopallaro65584 жыл бұрын
best 12 for playing wide is felipe contepomi 2007 with hernandez
@Fifer012 жыл бұрын
Levani Botia is a good 12??
@martinnjoroge60064 жыл бұрын
What about snakey.Surely he's a person you can't ommit while talking centres
@TheNoahJarvis4 жыл бұрын
He’s at the same level to me as odriscoll but I just used him as the example cause he was the first one I could think of. Great player tho
@Jamac0074 жыл бұрын
No mention of Walter Little and Frank Bunce??
@wasketonene90724 жыл бұрын
Hard! This guy probably to young to remember them..
@mochababy24 жыл бұрын
BRIAN O'DRISCOLL
@icouldoflovedyouforever33614 жыл бұрын
How about ab devillers ?
@georgehoran83074 жыл бұрын
I was just about to criticise you for not mentioning J Davies, but you did at the end, so very good video, will watch again
@richcastle67962 жыл бұрын
So who the hell should mad king Eddie pic as his 12/13 ?
@AF-sh9pj3 жыл бұрын
Tuilagi and slade?
@akahlulwamzantsi4664 жыл бұрын
Jean De Villiers?
@timrogers20454 жыл бұрын
He's one of the great centres for sure man.
@justeazy44492 жыл бұрын
Didn’t mention Conrad Smith once 😅
@paulthomson22884 жыл бұрын
Role is to give their wings as much chance to score. Save 14.05 minutes.
@aaronjohnston57244 жыл бұрын
Stuart McCloskey is in my opinion the best twelve in Ireland as he's an incredibly physical player but at the same time has a high number of offloads and passes
@TinieTekkerzZ9594 жыл бұрын
Semi Radradra is so powerful as well he can be used as a gainline 13
@HelloWorld-fd2se4 жыл бұрын
u forgot to mention dan carter for fly half 12
@stylekat4 жыл бұрын
Anton Lienert-Brown is the best all round 12 in the world imo. Laumape is the best attacking 12 though, hands down.
@JohnyTuff14 жыл бұрын
Imo ALB is the best 13 in the world, and Crotty is the best 12.
@Tee.NZ.074 жыл бұрын
😳 Yea nah
@stylekat4 жыл бұрын
@@Tee.NZ.07 yeah nah? Interesting opinion you have there.
@mandigowest56854 жыл бұрын
Any winger tips anywhere pls
@NickTheSwordsman4 жыл бұрын
Watch Carlin Isles and study how he trains, how he assesses a route, his form when he’s taking off in a full flight sprint. Speed kills as a winger so basically do everything you can to improve your speed + agility! Get yourself a weighted vest for while you’re training and if you train like a savage then come game day when the vest is off you will tear that game up!!
@animekawaiichan93994 жыл бұрын
Omg dude!! Jaque fourie Adi Jacobs Marius Joubert Adam Ashley-Cooper Stirling Mortlock James O'connor JP Peterson Drew Mitchell Matt Giteau Wynand Olivier Juan de Jongh Stephen Jones Owen Farrell Jonathan "Tana" Umaga Tuilagi brothers (Freddie, Manu & Anitelea) You didn't even mention ONE of these guys! What a shame!
@samukeloz87153 жыл бұрын
Didn't hear much on Conrad Smith.... Personally the best 13
@Aliestwill3 жыл бұрын
Add my voice to the Conrad Smith fan club. Maybe didnt fit the analysis not having any obvious physical attributes.....but should be a textbook example to any young player on how to play the 13 channel.
@gpoll954 жыл бұрын
Are you still playing for tring? Will you be playing in their pre season game vs derby?
@TheNoahJarvis4 жыл бұрын
yeah i'm still playing for tring, but i'm holiday for that game unfortunately :( do you play for derby?
@gpoll954 жыл бұрын
Yeah, unlucky! Would’ve been cool to say hello
@TheNoahJarvis4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh man, yeah it would have been dude. Good luck in the game tho man, what position do you play, ill look out for you on the video.
@icarus8774 жыл бұрын
Nanu the best inside centre. Crikey that's pushing it.
@michaelkonelio7452 Жыл бұрын
He’s the greatest 12, he had it all. Speed, power, step, passing and kicking…name me a 12 who has it all?
@LuisAndrade-vg1hf9 ай бұрын
I love to play flanker or centre 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@angusjamesprain4 жыл бұрын
Great video and chat, really interesting to hear about specific positions in such depth. But the fact that Conrad Smith's name is not even mentioned makes you lose all credibility for me. Yes, this singular omission is so jarring that it simply undoes what trust you build up throughout the video. Sorry.
@attackpatterndelta89492 жыл бұрын
Kyle Eastmond was criminally underused by England.