The Role Of The Left Arm In The Golf Swing (Downswing)

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[@AfroIndo]

I cannot overstate how much this video has transformed my short game in the past week. Focusing on left arm rotation, and adopting a much more perpendicular, fully-in-the-fingers grip has transformed me from perpetual chunking to graceful floating from green to 90 yards out. 🙏🙏🙏

[@CogornoGolf]

Love it!

[@jmb7196]

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[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that and appreciate your support!!

[@tswalshie]

This set off a bunch of lightbulbs for me personally (we're all different). I've been working on taking the club face away and keeping it looking at the ball as long as I can with an active wrist set, while also working on backswing depth. Very hard to get my wrist in a good position, feels unnatural and has done for ages. Focusing on my forearms rolling "open" at about P3 gets me a super flat wrist at top of backswing, then rolling "closed" early seems to have gotten me a fantastic flight, club face feels super super super square. Thanks so much, fantastic video.

[@CogornoGolf]

Our pleasure my friend! Glad this one helped!!

[@therealkidbam]

Awesome video! Stuck at work but I'm definitely going to be rewatching this later! Also had a decent chuckle at 5:42 - 5:43, Mr. Crgngro

[@CogornoGolf]

:) Thank you! Hope it serves you well!

[@alanunikel1414]

In my prior comment, I failed to add what you have said in prior videos. If you pronate the left shoulder at address, and then do the left shoulder extension and right side crunch into impact, the club face will automatically square up at impact. That pros are NOT consciously rotating the left arm to square up the club face. They are just allowing the upper torso(and pronated left shoulder) pull the club face SQUARELY into impact.

[@micah6615]

OK, This Video made me Feel allot better For the Past Few months my ball Started to come up short and Right with my wedges and then the rest of my Irons Finally after Months of working on Strike at the Range where it Felt good. I would get to the Course and everything would start Middle and move hard to the left Over Drawing / Hook it was driving me Nuts but I guess Hooking the ball means I'm Close Hopefully Eric Fantastic Guest.

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes :) If you can get the big draw going you should only be ONE move away from hitting it great and pretty straight!

[@chaddy-me-boy8299]

Does this phone hear my conversations, that’s all I’ve been talking about is the wrist, release, etc. Thankyou for the 🔑

[@CogornoGolf]

Lol keeping an eye on ya :)

[@daviddrake8019]

So riddle me this? If you’re focusing on flexing your trail right hand back in the backswing and maintaining it in the downswing (and not releasing too early), how does that square with rotating the lead arm? Kinda hard to focus on both. It feels like you would need a pretty big side bend on the downswing to do both and prevent the ball going way left for a righty.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey David! Yeah I hear ya For a given student I likely wouldn't focus on both of those at the same time. If someone was thinking of trail wrist back AND needed more arm rotation.....I would probably just focus on the right arm rotation then (pronation) instead of the left arm. I explain how those work together here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZTVYaSIesuIsMk&pp=ygUWRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHJpZ2h0IGFybQ%3D%3D kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHvQpYiYesxkirM&pp=ygUWRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHJpZ2h0IGFybQ%3D%3D

[@richyclubsport5155]

Hey Eric, I've seen lot's of comments, some negative, and quoting Mike Malaska, Mike did do a series of videos explaining this, he described it in a different way, likening to the steering wheel of a car. For a right hander steering turns right, back to centre and exit left, different way of explaining but the same results.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thats right Can't make a swing without arm rotation :) Question is HOW much.....when....and what pairs with what

[@johnrodgers6049]

I agree with this video 100%. The higher handicap players must remember that the shoulder rotation and plane needs to match up with the arm rotation. If a player starts rotating the arm correctly but doesn’t get the trail shoulder under the lead through impact, they will hit it straight left.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks John!

[@michaelgabel6246]

Great video as are all your videos. My question is how much rotation is there in the backswing? Is that grip dependent?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Michael! Yes a little grip dependent but as a checkpoint you want to rotate the arm to the point where the butt of the club points right on or just inside the ball/target line. I talk about that in more detail here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3KUhZKGaLenotk&pp=ygUeRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGxlZnQgYXJtIHJvdGF0aW9u If the butt of the club points OUTSIDE the ball line you rotated arm TOO much If club points to your toes thats not enough Hope that helps

[@LocalScopeMarketing1]

Wow this is a great explanation, esp focussing on the armon, not thw wris as it will follow, great stuff! rotati

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks!

[@MST_290]

Your guest is talking about rotation of the whole arm - which is internal/external rotation of the upper arm. Pronation/supination is when the forearm rotates independently of the upper arm Also your guest suggests rotating the whole lead arm towards the target before lead arm parallel in the downswing. For most people this will just throw the club over the top and steepen or turn their swing plane even more left (which amateurs definitely dont need!) Usually think your videos are some of the best but think some of the advice here could damage a few swings

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback! Thats right on the internal/external shoulder rotation....could have def explained that I think we were just going for simplicity there. Agreed----from top to about arm parallel to ground you will see some of the opposite rotation to help shallow the shaft....its FROM lead arm parallel through that this is really important. That said I think Johns point was more FEEL vs REAL and that most players need to FEEL it sooner. We are on same page---hope all is well!

[@kobehuang3272]

Hey Eric, would lack of supination lead to more heel strike too? I recently feel like if I pull my left hand more left somewhat similar to this feeling, I could eliminate the occasional shanks and heel strikes.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Kobe! POTENTIALLY!! Could be a couple of things that would lead to that but need to see your swing to say for sure. Send swings to www.cogornogolf.com or find a good in person coach should be able to identify WHY thats happening and how to fix fast

[@scottreiber6879]

Just feel like you start down with the left arm and then immediately start to release the right arm. A slightly stronger grip helps square the clubface at impact. That's all that matters, because a split second after impact the ball's gone.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Scott! That sounds great if that works for you!

[@alanunikel1414]

Eric, You do not say how right side crunch is achieved. I think it is not by trying to consciously move the right shoulder down, but by pushing the right obliques down and forward toward the left knee. This move is complementary to the left obliques pulling the left side into extension at impact. So think that to get into impact I must "Pull Left Obliques Up And Around As I Push Right Obliques Down And Forward!"

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Alan! Thanks for watching and the feedback! Some good stuff in there for sure... Of course we never said the pros do this consciously.....just that it happens :) But if the amateur golfer in front of you DOES NOT do it...do you assume by changing the body motions the arms will react exactly how you want? Or is there room to add conscious thought? Of course I have been testing this for past 15 years so I've seen lots of real life results but I'm always open to better ways! Hope you are well

[@juanbotha6634]

Hi Eric, with a little bit of extension in the right wrist and some hinge, club should be in a good position in the back swing. For me it doesnt feel like there is any forearms rotation. Can you please explain why there is so much forearm rotation in the down swing? Is it because at impact there is still extension in the right wrist and only way to square the face is rotation?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Juan! During the backswing......the arms rotate clockwise some to the top.....agreed? Obviously yes they do :) If thats true......and they are going to turn MORE clockwise in early downswing to shallow the club.......then they must turn counterclockwise (lead arm supination) just to get back to square.

[@bassmasta9117]

I have been doing the Ben Kruper "pause" to double check my left wrist is flat and the face is square and then fully committing in the swing and it has changed everything. You can really swing hard and use your body when you're not thinking about timing up your face

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent! Love that!

[@virtualbown]

Eric, doesn't this also need to be sequenced with body rotation? Meaning do you have to have the right amount of body rotation to keep this whole thing from going left?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Oh of course! 1. You can UNDERDO or OVER DO anything....arm rotation being ONE of them. 2. 90% of golfers miss right.....so they need MORE of this just to get the face square 3. All golfers need lead arm supination in downswing...as John mentioned the best players do it TWICE AS MUCH! But slower and more progressive. If going left you can always turn down the volume on it....or get the shaft more forward at impact, path more right, etc Hope that helps!

[@nasiruddin-zq6ik]

Thanks Eric for this great video. What will be the grip pressure with left hand and right hand for right handed player?

[@CogornoGolf]

Thank you! Keeping them feeling the same would be a nice place to start👍

[@nasiruddin-zq6ik]

@@CogornoGolf Thanks

[@nasiruddin-zq6ik]

Very often i pull my left arm during release/follow through causes nasty hook. How to get rid from this pulling towards left?

[@TML34]

The problem for AMs is that forearm rotation = open clubface in the backswing. That’s where all the flipping and early extension at impact comes from. The forearm rotation needs to paired with proper wrist angles for everything to work.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Thanks for watching and the feedback! OF course all golf swings need lead arm supination in downswing. All of them. No matter who, their grip, etc. Some have MORe or LESS of course but they all have it. In fact like John mentions the best ball strikers do it TWICE as much as the ams :)

[@sdd1588]

I have a strong grip. In combination with the arm rotation I am going left more often. Should I try weakening the grip a bit?

[@CogornoGolf]

Yo! Yeah for sure the amount of arm rotation is grip dependent. The stronger the grip the less forearm rotation you need.....still need SOME.....just less. I can't say for sure what YOU need to do without seeing your swing tho man....I would just be guessing too much. Send swings to www.cogornogolf.com so we can see your swing and find and fix root issues. You could weaken grip with more arm rotation....or just keep grip stronger and have less arm rotation. Wrist angles also will effect this....how much shaft lean at impact, ball position etc lol.....too many variables thats why I would need to see

[@nasiruddin-zq6ik]

Dearest Eric, Very often i pull my left arm towards left during release/follow through causes nasty hook. How to get rid from this pulling towards left?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Honestly to say for sure we would need to see your swing to say....send swings to www.cogornogolf.com so we can FIND and FIX the root issue causing that. Could be a bunch of things---gotta see it :)

[@flemingtonmartinsvet]

Does the lag shot trainer help with rotation

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! I dont think that would be best for this nope

[@FlankerJackChannel]

Something I'm coming to realize regarding this topic is that my grip strength in both hands should not be equal. My left or lead on has the most contact with the club and should be controlling matters while my trail hand has a lighter grip and is used more as a guide during release. We talk about grip and grip strength in terms of both hands but never individual hands or feelings.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thats all good if that works best for you! Won't see the same across the board to everyone

[@FlankerJackChannel]

@@CogornoGolf I'm just trying not to have my hands fight each other.

[@guitar1950]

HELP! I get so confused watching golf instruction. Use the wrists. Don't use the wrists. More hip speed, close the stance, close the shoulders, don't close the shoulders. I've been making some minor changes in my swing. I stopped slouching at address and kept my back more straight. I also stopped getting too much weight towards my toes at address and during the swing which I thought was causing heel shots and shanks and losing balance. My shots improved. Contact was better. More powerful shots. Then BAM! Shanks appeared again and more frequently. Frustrating.

[@CogornoGolf]

Haha I hear ya! Lots of info out there----thats why I always suggest you find a GREAT coach to work with either in person or online. Work with them to find your TOP 1-2 root issues you need to find and fix to make the greatest improvements and stay on track!!

[@123GPA]

If you square too early or too fast won't it snap hook?

[@whenmullet2674]

As a 50 year long slicer off the planet of the ball, I would welcome a snap hook, lol.

[@nelsonjames1272]

Not if your lower body does what it’s supposed to do.

[@bassmasta9117]

Once you have that problem you can dial it back but most people are chronically open faced

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Of course! Thats just far less common 8 to 9 out of 10 golfers miss to the RIGHT and need elements to CLOSE the club face MORE and SOONER. This is just one of those elements The main 3 I go over here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHS6aoqVoayEqq8&pp=ygUgRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIENsb3NlIHRoZSBjbHViIGZhY2U%3D If you already are curving it left then of course your club face is already (too) closed and you dont need more of this (or other club face squaring mechanisms) hope that helps

[@ArgentinianBattleChicken]

I would love to see a tour pro critique these teaching videos. How much of these really hold water?

[@CogornoGolf]

:) Question is would a tour pro (player) be the best person to critique? They know how to PLAY better......but teach? Not sure :)

[@whenmullet2674]

Totally contrary to Malaska.

[@123GPA]

and Milo Lines

[@johnw3900]

The arm rotates 90 degrees in the backswing, it has to rotate 90 degrees back in the downswing to square it- no way around it. Gross oversimplification as shaft lean and body rotation also impact this - point is ams don't get the arm back in position in time.

[@whenmullet2674]

@@123GPA So the way I see it, which could be totally wrong, Milo squares the club head with the body, whereas Malaska keeps it square with his hands and lets the club move the body once the front hip clears out. To me, David Duval clearly demonstrates the Malaska move to Charlie Rymer, but Milo says that's not what he's actually doing, and he uses his method. Once Jake Knapp burst on to the scene, I told my buddy, watch all the YT golf instructors use his swing to promote their method, and sure enough they did. Which leads me to the conclusion that Malaska always says, you can't see a golf swing and positions are useless in and of themselves.

[@bassmasta9117]

@@whenmullet2674 I don't think Milo's instructions are good for most amateurs unless you have Joaquin Niemann level flexibility.. Eric, Porzak golf and Malaska are way better for 99% of people

[@whenmullet2674]

@@bassmasta9117 agreed

[@AlanStrong-t4z]

Don’t think this would be great for those of us who s bad shot is an overdraw

[@CogornoGolf]

Lol of course :) Thats just far less common 8 to 9 out of 10 golfers miss to the RIGHT and need elements to CLOSE the club face MORE and SOONER. This is just one of those elements The main 3 I go over here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHS6aoqVoayEqq8&pp=ygUgRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIENsb3NlIHRoZSBjbHViIGZhY2U%3D If you already are curving it left then of course your club face is already (too) closed and you dont need more of this (or other club face squaring mechanisms) hope that helps

[@Tnt2717]

Please explain the difference between what Makaska says and this.. Eric you are totally confusing us amateurs. Which one is right throwing a ball or this feel which Makaska says ruined his golf career.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Sorry for your confusion! 1. Of course all golfers need lead arm supination (rotation). This is a measured fact, not my opinion. 2. The best players have roughly twice as much lead arm supination as ams (measured fact, not my opinion. 3. The best players do it sooner, more and slower. Measured fact, not opinion. 4. I meet WAY more golfers who need MORE arm rotation than players who need less. 5. Players sometimes think this leads to "more timing"....while they are already missing right every time with an open club face :) 6. 90% of amateurs miss right. They need more elements to close the face. This is just one. Here I go through the details on the other options to close the face: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHS6aoqVoayEqq8&pp=ygUgRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIENsb3NlIHRoZSBjbHViIGZhY2U%3D

[@Coach8687]

Eric doesn’t care… just wants your views and likes 💸💸

[@juhefner2855]

@@Coach8687sure sounds like he cares to me with that essay of a response explaining

[@Coach8687]

@@juhefner2855 that’s his social media team responding 😅

[@Mbsmoothe]

There’s more than one way to release the golf club.. some people do better focusing on flexing and extending (more of the throwing style.) some people need to concentrate on pronation and supination. In reality everyone uses both when swinging, just to varying degrees

[@michaelc5428]

No no no.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Michael! Thanks for watching and your feedback. Here's my response to other comment that I think answers your "no no no" as well :) 1. Of course all golfers need the lead arm supination (rotation). This is a measured fact, not my opinion. 2. The best players have roughly twice as much lead arm supination as ams (measured fact, not my opinion) 3. The best players do it sooner, more and slower. Measured fact, not opinion. 4. I meet WAY more golfers who need MORE arm rotation than players who need less. 5. Players sometimes think this leads to "more timing"....while they are already missing right every time with an open club face :) 6. 90% of amateurs miss right. They need more elements to close the face. This is just one. Here I go through the details on the other options to close the face: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHS6aoqVoayEqq8&pp=ygUgRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIENsb3NlIHRoZSBjbHViIGZhY2U%3D Hope that helps