- The Romans celebrated rape | Interview with Dame Mary Beard | SVT/TV 2/Skavlan

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Historian Dame Mary Beard talks about how history has treated women in this interview with Scandinavian talk show Skavlan.
Also present in the studio are football manager Sven-Göran Eriksson, author and journalist Malcolm Gladwell and handball player Nora Mørk.
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@proudindiancitizen2494
@proudindiancitizen2494 4 жыл бұрын
I love her for who she is... a fantastic lady who exudes confidence, a classy sense humour, quick wit.... and above all superb intelligence! I think these attributes make her a beautiful person!
@hand587
@hand587 4 жыл бұрын
She makes the most complex moments in history very relatable
@joanncaribbeanfan4505
@joanncaribbeanfan4505 4 жыл бұрын
@Kwiene Makeda To EVERYONE
@joanncaribbeanfan4505
@joanncaribbeanfan4505 4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@latinaalma1947
@latinaalma1947 4 жыл бұрын
Could you PLEASE stop apologizing for the Empire? Once you started that you were on the road to perdition....enormous numbers of former colonials then had the right to emigrate to Britian, were there ANY constraints at all after the war? And I suppose the labor party dreamed it was a way to permanent power? THat is why the Dems in the USA keep on importing huge numbers of Third World people so they can get new voters. In neither case has it helped them much lately BUT that was the strategy was it not? SInce you constantly perform this mea culpa we Americans followed along with Obama's apology tour and that is turned then around on us all, fueling the attitude "right time to get rid of Brits, Americans, etc" Today with Nigel Farage's farewell speech to the EU in Strassbourg you should,just quit saying this nonsense!
@2Sugarbears
@2Sugarbears 4 жыл бұрын
The presenter of this program actually listens....I am in shock!
@nejuw
@nejuw 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great show, found it by accident a year ago, and always look forward to his interviews. Love the way the other guests get involved in the conversation as well.
@merlinmediagroup
@merlinmediagroup 4 жыл бұрын
He really does. He asks genuinely interesting questions and allows the interviewees to talk instead of allowing the show to be all about him.
@2Sugarbears
@2Sugarbears 4 жыл бұрын
@@merlinmediagroup And he doesn't TALK OVER THEM....what a treat!
@joaninha3484
@joaninha3484 4 жыл бұрын
It’s how chat shows should be !
@savos020
@savos020 4 жыл бұрын
if you are a woman yes he listens intently but if you watch the Jordan Peterson interview he has this smirk of complete disrespect almost like he couldnt believe what he/she was hearing nothing worse than a victim stancing male feminist
@michaell1452
@michaell1452 4 жыл бұрын
She’s a remarkable woman. I love her voice and I could watch and listen to her for hours.
@dalehoward3704
@dalehoward3704 3 жыл бұрын
I love her too-she handled the rude poster brilliantly 👌
@srevero1
@srevero1 2 жыл бұрын
I adore her....
@OceanSwimmer
@OceanSwimmer 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it interesting to see the jealousy written on the faces of the other guests! Mary has NO AGENDA when she describes historical facts. She removes the romantic notions many have about the Roman era. She's read the original texts & graffiti, held the artifacts in her hands, and questioned archeological specialists (as well as visited the sites) to uncover the truths about how people lived and died thousands of years ago. Thank you, Mary Beard, for sharing the unvarnished history of ourselves.
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 Жыл бұрын
She's truly incredible
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 Жыл бұрын
And she's sexy as hell
@fauxmanchu8094
@fauxmanchu8094 4 жыл бұрын
I can listen to her forever. She is enchanting, charismatic and erudite. The rare scholar who is totally interesting.
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kittynakamoto2449
@kittynakamoto2449 4 жыл бұрын
Max Watkins irrelevant
@maxwatkins5166
@maxwatkins5166 4 жыл бұрын
@@kittynakamoto2449 entirely irrelevant, just restoring balance
@kittynakamoto2449
@kittynakamoto2449 4 жыл бұрын
Max Watkins that’s not what balance means in this context
@maxwatkins5166
@maxwatkins5166 4 жыл бұрын
@@kittynakamoto2449 I hold my hands up, my first comment was ridiculously ignorant, unnecessary and irrelevant
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 4 жыл бұрын
I like Mary she’s not only extremely intelligent she’s got a good sense of humour.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 4 жыл бұрын
She loves talking about rape....a feminist wishful attempt at controlling the sex act through the use of consent. "I did consent this time but I didn't consent the last".
@elcruzer5514
@elcruzer5514 4 жыл бұрын
I love Mary. She's a walking encyclopedia of Wester Civ. And makes it all so very interesting that I want to hear more.
@OceanSwimmer
@OceanSwimmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 ---- Is your comment about this interview, or about another? I don't see how you connect her comment about rape as a cultural phenomenon in ancient Rome, and anything inferred about Western culture today. Do explain.
@torysetliff
@torysetliff 4 жыл бұрын
People who insult a woman's physical appearance are intimidated by some aspect of the said woman's power. Thus, people who are degrading toward this woman, must feel insufficient intellectually. I quite enjoyed this interview. Thanks from Texas.
@torysetliff
@torysetliff 4 жыл бұрын
Paul O'Rourke I repeat, “insufficient intellectually.” lol
@JC-nn4if
@JC-nn4if 4 жыл бұрын
@Paul O'Rourke why can t someone be a whale then? Is there a law or something?
@JC-nn4if
@JC-nn4if 4 жыл бұрын
@Paul O'Rourke some are whales, some others are not the full ticket...
@infin8ee
@infin8ee 4 жыл бұрын
Just love Mary Beard. So intelligent ,likeable and down to earth. Her joy in classical history is clearly evident as is her scholarship. I would love to spend time with her listening to her talk on whatever subject she likes ! A wonderful , charming woman -delightful 💕
@sonia354
@sonia354 2 жыл бұрын
She’s an amazing woman, extremely clever, and very humble. She announced in May 2021 that she was giving £80,000 for two people from disadvantaged backgrounds to study classical studies at University, the reason she did it is because she said “it’s the right thing to do”.
@andrewblake2254
@andrewblake2254 4 жыл бұрын
When the Romans met the British,,,,, two million football hooligans covered in blue paint asking "Wot you looking at Julius!"
@kimberlynolin2100
@kimberlynolin2100 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@charlesbanks457
@charlesbanks457 4 жыл бұрын
You just won the internet
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 4 жыл бұрын
Lol brilliant.
@cbarclay99
@cbarclay99 4 жыл бұрын
"You want some?" and "You're going back to Rome in a fucking ambulance."
@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913
@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 4 жыл бұрын
What? Rome conquered England in no time compared to other territories like Iberia or even France!
@DAS1962
@DAS1962 4 жыл бұрын
I have become addicted to Skavlan - always considered questions, and interesting mix of guests - thank goodness for the internet. From Australia
@BorderCollieMom
@BorderCollieMom 4 жыл бұрын
David S Total agreement, from the other side of the planet...Cheers from Canada.
@davidwirth2716
@davidwirth2716 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy listening to her , the interviewer and guest did the right thing listen and don't interrupt. Smart lady , she always knows how to tell a story with such enthusiasm.
@RaineeG62
@RaineeG62 4 жыл бұрын
I think Dame Mary is quite a lovely person. I love her documentaries. I could "sit at her feet" and learn from her for hours.
@adorable3817
@adorable3817 4 жыл бұрын
First time I ever saw Dame Mary 💚 so glad to hear she has documentaries - will check them out right away
@RaineeG62
@RaineeG62 4 жыл бұрын
@Jeffery Widegirth it's a biblical reference.
@adorable3817
@adorable3817 4 жыл бұрын
@Jeffery Widegirth 🤢
@teresashortnacy9472
@teresashortnacy9472 4 жыл бұрын
I like Mary just the way she is.
@lollll9932
@lollll9932 4 жыл бұрын
She says "The Romans celebrated rape" Meanwhile, the Islamists still do.
@whatever-ou2he
@whatever-ou2he 4 жыл бұрын
@@lollll9932 by 'Islamists' if you mean Muslims, well no they don't. Rape is forbidden. A man having any physical contact with a woman or vice versa is not allowed in Islam. There's more to say on this topic but I'm tired of people's insistence on believing nonsense no matter what they're told.
@noelgrassy4278
@noelgrassy4278 4 жыл бұрын
@Mathius S And trump.
@elcruzer5514
@elcruzer5514 4 жыл бұрын
@@whatever-ou2he Women may be forbidden, but I guess little girls are OK??
@wildplumbeauty
@wildplumbeauty 4 жыл бұрын
One of my most favourite academics. She makes history come alive when she speaks.
@savos020
@savos020 4 жыл бұрын
that is because she is speaking in the toungue of a victim andyou obviously see yourself as one too
@wildplumbeauty
@wildplumbeauty 4 жыл бұрын
@savos020 Did you even read my comment properly or watch the entire video? I am talking about her ACADEMIC work. She has authored a few books, is a professor at Cambridge University and has done a few BBC shows on Ancient Rome just to mention a few of the things she’s done.
@savos020
@savos020 4 жыл бұрын
@@wildplumbeauty Yes I did read your comment and it was vacuous and lacked any conclusion that i could respect, it bothered me as if someone had farted down a long canyon and I kept hearing this fecal tone of Victimhood. Because that and Toxic masculinity is what she peddles with her education and however many books she authored. For anyone to say such brain dead and pandering things about an "academic" who peddles hate of Men and Victim stance of women obvious didnt learn much with her education. Sorry if my facts hurt your feelings, your vacuous pandering to a hateful person simply had to be called out.
@zimzob
@zimzob 4 жыл бұрын
savos020 you sound like a permanent victim, quite whiny.
@savos020
@savos020 4 жыл бұрын
@@zimzob That's a fine way to project your issues on someone, maybe you should hug your Mom or something it sounds like you need a hug cuz your fellow feminazis don't give men hugs too bad for you.
@sallyjenko2315
@sallyjenko2315 4 жыл бұрын
“In America, you WOULD say, ‘I worked really hard and I’m really smart,’ even though you were lucky.” Yup.
@KidCity1985
@KidCity1985 4 жыл бұрын
The harder you work the luckier you get.
@beverlybalius9303
@beverlybalius9303 4 жыл бұрын
In America you can go as highas you want to go.
@HulksterRunsWild
@HulksterRunsWild 4 жыл бұрын
@@beverlybalius9303 if they let you
@rhabdob3895
@rhabdob3895 4 жыл бұрын
Julie Anderson you are just adorable.
@ridesharegold6659
@ridesharegold6659 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, the American expression is "work smarter, not harder."
@peachblood555
@peachblood555 4 жыл бұрын
it's killing me how the other 3 guests are staring at Ms. Beard like she's a foreign entity of some sort
@annh1734
@annh1734 4 жыл бұрын
I know! lol - especially that girl next to her...
@joeroganjosh9333
@joeroganjosh9333 4 жыл бұрын
ann H Either she can’t speak English or she’s thinking about pickled herring and brannvin.
@PropunKla
@PropunKla 4 жыл бұрын
I would be in awe of her. I hope that is what it is.
@leavoda3791
@leavoda3791 4 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me if she actually was like a foreign entity to them, because they do not often meet or talk to an eloquent female expert
@AshMukherjeeOfficial
@AshMukherjeeOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Yep I felt that as well. Specially the gentlemen in the dark purple checked shirt.
@ladyTiger0714
@ladyTiger0714 4 жыл бұрын
She's unbelievably brilliant, and through my eyes, she is beautiful. She can come to my house any time for coffee and cake.
4 жыл бұрын
@jay Trying to be witty and funny? Ok, fair enough, that was a good one.
@liloleist5133
@liloleist5133 4 жыл бұрын
@@djanitatiana Since women bear children, yes.
@jacksprat429
@jacksprat429 4 жыл бұрын
Lilo Leist Did you not mean bear children.
@liloleist5133
@liloleist5133 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacksprat429 Yes, of course, thanks 😉👍
@jacksprat429
@jacksprat429 4 жыл бұрын
Lilo Leist 🤗😂
@bambit08
@bambit08 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary Beard and Skavlan - so entertaining. So much more interesting, informative and original than other shows. 👏👏
@SkavlanTV
@SkavlanTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! We appreciate it!
@deborahkelly1018
@deborahkelly1018 4 жыл бұрын
Those who claim there is no humility in America have never been to Minnesota.
@dorothysay8327
@dorothysay8327 4 жыл бұрын
Deborah Kelly or anywhere else in the US, really. They’re just watching movies 🙄
@ellalal3405
@ellalal3405 4 жыл бұрын
I can t wait to go, I flew into the airport at St Paul Minneapolis. I was treated very fairly there. I hear it gets cold. And it the Autumn and Spring be lovely too
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 4 жыл бұрын
Or anywhere outside of major cities.
@markvoelker6620
@markvoelker6620 4 жыл бұрын
And he uttered his remark in such a humble manner.
@noelpucarua2843
@noelpucarua2843 4 жыл бұрын
But you have to take into account that Minnesota is a suburb of Scandinavia.
@NDiaz-et6hc
@NDiaz-et6hc 4 жыл бұрын
Omg Skavlan I adored this!!! This lady is just fascinating! I had never heard of her but now I will Google her books!! The entire interview had me hanging on every word, Tak Skavlan and Cheers from Canada
@SkavlanTV
@SkavlanTV 4 жыл бұрын
We're thrilled to hear that we have viewers in Canada! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@acchaladka
@acchaladka 3 жыл бұрын
@@SkavlanTV you definitely have viewers in Canada! Wish we'd do more to become a more Nordic country / adopt more of your practices.
@jodrew1845
@jodrew1845 4 жыл бұрын
That was fun, I'm in the USA but will be following her from now on. She fantastic.
@emeldamcdowald8521
@emeldamcdowald8521 3 жыл бұрын
Jo Drew ditto.
@davisholman6518
@davisholman6518 2 жыл бұрын
American from Scottsdale, Arizona. I adore Dame Mary Beard. What a treasure trove of knowledge! I could listen to her for days on end.💕
@joshua.910
@joshua.910 Жыл бұрын
She's a national treasure 🫶
@anwitasarin
@anwitasarin 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting woman...looks at things from obscure angles , she makes you think whether or not you like what she is saying.
@hankrogers8431
@hankrogers8431 4 жыл бұрын
YOU HATE THE TRUTH?
@sorellman
@sorellman 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, looks at things from such obscure angles that she makes absolutely no sense. Presenting a baseless assumption as irrefutable fact is what everybody does these days. It's one sure way to make a good living.
@Kermit_T_Frog
@Kermit_T_Frog 4 жыл бұрын
Half of it was BS. Romans didn't smile!? There is no place on earth where people don't smile. But I suppose that she believes that Inuits, or Tibetans, or lost tribes on the Amazon were taught to smile by Europeans.
@hankrogers8431
@hankrogers8431 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kermit_T_Frog Do you even KNOW history or are you just running your trap?
@Kermit_T_Frog
@Kermit_T_Frog 4 жыл бұрын
@@hankrogers8431 The Odyssey was Greek, not Roman. Greek culture had damn near nothing in common with Roman culture. And even among Greek cities the status of women differed greatly. In ancient Sparta, men were occupied training for war, leaving the business of running the country to the women. The dumbest thing she said was that Telemachus was an "adolescent." His age was not mentioned in the Odyssey, but his father, Odysseus, had been away for 20 years.
@Rebecca-ii2nq
@Rebecca-ii2nq 4 жыл бұрын
Mary Beard, you enraptured the stage with your warmth and genuineness, it was beautiful to watch, I am delighted you are a dame ( a less than flattering title tho, unlike knight-white or in shining armour). I am taking this opportunity to thank you, I have been on many trips with your imagination inspiring narration, unique of your experience, education, creativity and humour, allowing me to see beyond my knowledge, I am very grateful.
@hollyhocks7360
@hollyhocks7360 4 жыл бұрын
Kwiene Makeda What?
@clairbearonabroom
@clairbearonabroom 4 жыл бұрын
brilliantly put chill pill. i concur .
@wildplumbeauty
@wildplumbeauty 4 жыл бұрын
@Chill Pill I so AGREE. I hang on every word she says in her bbc shows. I think she’s gorgeous by the way. Not in the traditional sense but more in a Cleopatra sort of way. Her mind makes her beautiful and enchanting.
@Rebecca-ii2nq
@Rebecca-ii2nq 4 жыл бұрын
@@wildplumbeauty Mary attributes it to privilege, I believe all women are beautiful and enchanting when we choose, men too.
@Rebecca-ii2nq
@Rebecca-ii2nq 4 жыл бұрын
@Kwiene Makeda thank you, your opinion is twice noted.
@christrinder1255
@christrinder1255 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Always enjoy listening to Mary Beard, and watching her history documentaries 👏👍😊
@rolandhawken6628
@rolandhawken6628 4 жыл бұрын
chris trinder You need to broaden your reading a bit mate she is a lefty liar on many subjects . for instance what destroyed Rome ? she lies about it none stop
@risenshine2783
@risenshine2783 4 жыл бұрын
Roland Hawken not lies, it will be her interpretation, she isnt lying!
@godzilla2k26
@godzilla2k26 4 жыл бұрын
@@risenshine2783 That would depend. Iceberg sunk the Titanic, there isn't very many ways to interpret that. Once you start saying it was aliens you probably are a little off.
@robertbarnier45
@robertbarnier45 4 жыл бұрын
Mary is entertainment plus. Thanks for the joy 𝙼𝚊𝚛𝚢. Aussie Bob x
@tosapai297
@tosapai297 4 жыл бұрын
"All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health ... what have the Romans ever done for us?"
@guinevereinthefield176
@guinevereinthefield176 4 жыл бұрын
Tosapai 🤣👍🏻
@gangapoornima
@gangapoornima 4 жыл бұрын
yeah okay, but its inevitable right, i mean Egyptians and Persian also improved that , if time matters in our measurement today, they were even earlier on in progress with those issues, i like your comment.
@BenKyjovka
@BenKyjovka 4 жыл бұрын
Peace?
@tomstephens3029
@tomstephens3029 3 жыл бұрын
I get the reference but the reality is Celtic Britain was actually a sophisticated society that was fine until the Romans turned up and ruined it.
@jordymaas565
@jordymaas565 2 жыл бұрын
&.... britcoin
@stdio44.32
@stdio44.32 4 жыл бұрын
Romans also celebrated mass, public executions in the Colosseum, which is (incidentally) how they helped to start Christianity.
@lorettalynndavis9695
@lorettalynndavis9695 4 жыл бұрын
...And how they helped to destroy it under later Roman Rulers...
@ricardocima
@ricardocima 4 жыл бұрын
Public executions were celebrated long long after the romans. It was a common thing throughout Europe.
@denverbritto5606
@denverbritto5606 4 жыл бұрын
@@ricardocima didnt turn it into a sport though
@ricardocima
@ricardocima 4 жыл бұрын
Such difference...
@pbj9270
@pbj9270 4 жыл бұрын
And the proto beginnings of the NFL!
@zbigniewchodor2217
@zbigniewchodor2217 4 жыл бұрын
Mary Beard ....... please do some more shows about romans ........ please ..... please ....... please ....... I love your shows it is very nice to listen to the historical voice .......
@karensinclair4189
@karensinclair4189 4 жыл бұрын
Your show is wonderful! Have seen nothing else like it.
@claucemicro1080
@claucemicro1080 4 жыл бұрын
Karen Sinclair And the stage is like a ring of fire! 🔥
@savos020
@savos020 4 жыл бұрын
that is because you live in an echo chamber
@tonymcneil978
@tonymcneil978 4 жыл бұрын
Many people around the world work very hard, but it does not increase their luck. Many times it just increases their oppression.
@mattdonahue9516
@mattdonahue9516 4 жыл бұрын
are you saying they should take a mental health day?
@tonymcneil978
@tonymcneil978 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattdonahue9516 sure why not? Do what you need to do for you.
@gregoryallen0001
@gregoryallen0001 4 жыл бұрын
THANK you lol
@farceadentus
@farceadentus 4 жыл бұрын
Tony McNeil the secret to wealth is “leverage”. Working smart. Not working hard making someone else rich.
@StreetfighterU
@StreetfighterU 4 жыл бұрын
@@farceadentus shhh don't make them think
@jenster29
@jenster29 4 жыл бұрын
She points out how out of touch Prince Andrew was in the interview, as compared to the rest of us. Did she not consider that the roman history she's read was by and about the same elite type of people and it in no way reflected the actual everyday person? The play about the rape, could very well have been written by a Prince Andrew type. And regular people would have been just as disgusted as us today.. Just a thought.
@starquant
@starquant 4 жыл бұрын
No, because a lot of Roman writings were nothing more than our version of modern day Graffiti...some of it was actually very obscene. Pompeii is covered in it.
@MurdaIncorporated
@MurdaIncorporated 4 жыл бұрын
penelope pittstop very insightful
@lavinder11
@lavinder11 4 жыл бұрын
There are historical accounts as well....
@kittynakamoto2449
@kittynakamoto2449 4 жыл бұрын
Ioannis Polemarkhos why do you types obsess over other gender? Such an unoriginal complaint, you must not have a life
@jenster29
@jenster29 4 жыл бұрын
@@ioannispolemarkhos7364 what are you on about?
@no79way
@no79way 4 жыл бұрын
Always extraordinary conversations on this show!!!!
@SkavlanTV
@SkavlanTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback, Rajeh! We appreciate it.
@cici7739
@cici7739 3 жыл бұрын
I love how real she is about it. So many historians seem to romanticise ancient cultures
@hs5167
@hs5167 4 жыл бұрын
I love her shows. I wish every history teacher brought such interesting lessons to the classroom.
@RealinDealer
@RealinDealer 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not make sweeping generalizations. Marcus Aurelius was Roman too.
@markewings7525
@markewings7525 4 жыл бұрын
So impressive that this is broadcast in English in Scandinavia
@DrSchredder
@DrSchredder 4 жыл бұрын
lel
@fonkyhonky1979
@fonkyhonky1979 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Professor Beard is ugly... A GIANT for anyone who cares about history, OR intellectual pursuit... To hear her relay the debauched comments she received is heartbreaking. I clicked on this link to hear her infectious enthusiasm for understanding history. I think if more people opened their ears & minds, and consequently closed their uninformed & unpleasant mouths, we’d all be a little better off. I’d go WAAAY outta my way just to hear her lecture & teach, let alone to see her lovely Beethoven piano smile... glad I got to be in the world when she was here too!
@burtcocain1986
@burtcocain1986 4 жыл бұрын
Classy woman. Like her a lot.
@cornishmaid5073
@cornishmaid5073 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t imagine the women and men who were raped celebrated anything.
@brucelomax3375
@brucelomax3375 4 жыл бұрын
You're right.
@RealityAlwaysWins
@RealityAlwaysWins 3 жыл бұрын
different times maybe, different mindsets, maybe back then it wasn't a violent and defiling thing as more spontaneous, maybe what we see as rape to them was just a one night stand.
@joaninha3484
@joaninha3484 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview as always. Love Mary Beard.
@SkavlanTV
@SkavlanTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, we're glad to hear you like it!
@americanwoman8967
@americanwoman8967 4 жыл бұрын
"That's because they never met the Vikings" very funny Skavlan
@traceyarnaud8433
@traceyarnaud8433 4 жыл бұрын
@norma armstrong Would you bring up her age if she were a man?
@timsmith2279
@timsmith2279 4 жыл бұрын
American woman, the vikings travelled from Sweden in their long boats thru Russia to as far as Bulgaria, Romania, and Greece, where they were employed as mercenaries, they were tall strong good with knives and swords, many stayed behind and settled.
@vencejo7572
@vencejo7572 4 жыл бұрын
Except he said "That's because they never met the "Wikings"!
@dajogb3330
@dajogb3330 4 жыл бұрын
norma armstrong What an ignorant, abuse justifying moron you are. They all raped so that’s ok!?!?! To bring up a persons age just damns your puerile bullshit. Education and intelligence is obviously an anathema to a person of your ill education. Your sickening lack of anything approaching the IQ of a fully functioning human is an insult to whichever species you have any form of affinity with.
@godzilla2k26
@godzilla2k26 4 жыл бұрын
@@dajogb3330 It's probably a jab at hiding behind her age as some do.
@rickbecker3239
@rickbecker3239 4 жыл бұрын
Mary and her documentaries about Rome added immeasurably to my visit to many historic sites in Italy. Thank you Mary!!
@joeyfitz9
@joeyfitz9 4 жыл бұрын
Oh mon dieu, Mary Beard AND Malcolm Gladwell on the same stage?! Heaven.
@terrybaker8156
@terrybaker8156 2 жыл бұрын
Are they adversaries?
@EDDIELANE
@EDDIELANE 4 жыл бұрын
Love you Mary Beard!! You invoke your excitment in every subject!
@Chickmamapalletfarm
@Chickmamapalletfarm 4 жыл бұрын
The fella who mention the way American would reply to “how did you get so successful?” He is so right... in the USA, we would totally say “I worked my ass off, stayed focused, and made it happen”.
@kathryngeeslin9509
@kathryngeeslin9509 4 жыл бұрын
Even if others did most of the work. It does sound better that way. And fits our sense of fairness.
@joshuawilliamson6839
@joshuawilliamson6839 4 жыл бұрын
@@kathryngeeslin9509 what others..no one clocks me in and out of work or pays my bills this is 2020 not 1700
@kathryngeeslin9509
@kathryngeeslin9509 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawilliamson6839 Congratulations. Self employed is best if you can manage it.
@generationofswine-ge5rw
@generationofswine-ge5rw 4 жыл бұрын
I climbed up the ladder built by the generations before me, then pulled it in so that the next generation can never be a successful self-made man like me.
@kathryngeeslin9509
@kathryngeeslin9509 4 жыл бұрын
@@generationofswine-ge5rw This has been true of most generations, especially since industrial revolution, but horrendously true of those who care enough to vote last 40 years. It would seem those ready to take credit for the ladders built by previous efforts are also more than willing to pull those ladders up or destroy them, then complain new workers are "lazy" because they don't climb as far and fast.
@Kaddywompous
@Kaddywompous 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this today!
@lisathuban8969
@lisathuban8969 4 жыл бұрын
"There is no tradition of self-deprecation in America." Not true. Traditional Southern manners are full of that kind of behavior. Modesty is also a thing in the upper Midwest. Listen to any "Lake Wobegon" episode, and you will see what I mean.
@motorcop505
@motorcop505 4 жыл бұрын
Lisa Thuban He is a typical leftist who has no trouble with making mass generalizations about anyone who disagrees with them.
@lisathuban8969
@lisathuban8969 4 жыл бұрын
@@motorcop505 Which is strange, because you just did exactly the same thing. And you let that irony slip right by. You just made a sweeping assumption about the Left, which I AM a part of. The "Left" lives here too. We pay taxes too,. Our kids grow up here too.. We love our country too. And you are obviously one of those who is poisoned by Rightist propaganda that believes for some bizarre reason, we're out to destroy the place we work and live . Not all of you are this blind, I don't want to make a sweeping generalization about the Right, lots of good people on both sides, but I hear this crap all the time. See that house next to you? That normal neighbor? He's probably on the Left. See the house on the other side of you? He's probably on the Right, and yet they show up at the neighborhood BBQ together, the kids go to school together, and somehow, it' all works out. Let's get back to realizing that, shall we?
@gustavmarie
@gustavmarie 4 жыл бұрын
True, both country music and blues are full of self-depreciation and ironic humor.
@kareno7848
@kareno7848 4 жыл бұрын
Shoes how much she knows!
@laurawilloughby4000
@laurawilloughby4000 4 жыл бұрын
@@lisathuban8969 Thank you.
@emmaphilo4049
@emmaphilo4049 4 жыл бұрын
It is not working hard but working smart. The working hard tale is to make us slaves.
@zztopz7090
@zztopz7090 4 жыл бұрын
Why not both? We can't all be academics. And you sstil have to work hard in any job.
@woodlefoof2
@woodlefoof2 4 жыл бұрын
Quarkine I here is the thing You can’t control luck and it favors the bold, if you aren’t working hard and building up enough resources to use when you need to use them and when using them would be advantageous, and more importantly, if luck is the only thing that you can rely on you WILL fail. For example Columbus was lucky because he discovered the new world on a peaceful area, The Vikings landed in a more hostile area. Both had fairly limited manpower, and both were aggressive.but Columbus had more tech and could control the area better, and he even attacked on his terms. That’s why Leif Erickson didn’t matter but Columbus did. Columbus staked a claim and brought the Spanish over. However neither of them just lucked into the America’s, they had navigation skills.boats, a planned course, a desire to explore, a skilled crew that could steer away from danger, planned rations that could last the journey, etc etc. in the Vikings case they could possibly see the America’s from Greenland. And if the people on the ships were lazy they would have died, the crews did their jobs they didn’t hope that money and spices would rain down from the sky, they hoped money and spices could be gained from this new route to India. In other words. when that slut we call Lady Luck decides you look cute, if your dick isn’t hard right then and there you aren’t getting blown, and she might blue ball you because she got bored and you’ll just have to finish yourself off so you still need hands. Side note: I don’t think the Spanish cared about Columbus’s cruelty, towards the natives based on the conquistadors, I think that is character assassination to make him seem bad even by the days standards because we feel ashamed of our origins.
@paulashe7460
@paulashe7460 4 жыл бұрын
Get rid of your credit cards. End indentured slavery.
@emmaphilo4049
@emmaphilo4049 4 жыл бұрын
@@zztopz7090 yes both is good. But working smart is more important than just working hard
@brucetrappleton6984
@brucetrappleton6984 4 жыл бұрын
My wild guess is that you are either very young and don't know about work, or you have a lot of money. Otherwise you should know that working smart and working hard are not opposites. Many times in order to make your "working smart" effective, you'll have to work hard. The only people in this world who can have the privilege of NOT working hard are the rich. That doesn't mean they work smart. It means they live from other people's work.
@staciesheppard2048
@staciesheppard2048 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! What an interesting woman - just found another person I'd like to know more about
@2Sugarbears
@2Sugarbears 4 жыл бұрын
@incogneto The woman had nothing to say, don't know why, the men were afraid of what Mary was going to say...they gave all of the 'tells' just watch them.
@casrifay
@casrifay 4 жыл бұрын
stacie sheppard got exactly the same feeling
@davebox588
@davebox588 4 жыл бұрын
@incogneto an acknowledged authority on the subject describing in depth how a culture found rape amusing, was not interesting? Can I suggest you search KZbin for something sufficiently lowbrow that doesn't challenge you too much?
@Lurklen
@Lurklen 4 жыл бұрын
@incogneto If you watch the whole thing through she gets a few laughs, and the other guests engage with her on the later topics. Not really sure what you're talking about.
@jenniferbringman9054
@jenniferbringman9054 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Box 😆
@laswan5
@laswan5 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to hang out with Mary. Maybe take a walk through Pompei or someplace. She's awesome.
@jaythompson5102
@jaythompson5102 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most brilliant historians alive IMO
@ricardocima
@ricardocima 4 жыл бұрын
She used to be a historian, now she's an activist just because some internet trolls said that she's ugly. Arnaldo Momigliano's parents were murdered in Auschwitz and he never said a word a about it, just kept being a historian.
@jaythompson5102
@jaythompson5102 4 жыл бұрын
@Bilbo Baggins Oh well when you put it that way ...
@jaythompson5102
@jaythompson5102 4 жыл бұрын
@Kwiene Makeda How is she a liar? Please keep this to history nobody cares about social media drama.
@jaythompson5102
@jaythompson5102 4 жыл бұрын
@Kwiene Makeda How could you call a person uneducated without knowing the person? Can you give one example of cherry picked data? Just one please.
@godzilla2k26
@godzilla2k26 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaythompson5102 She just said in this interview the Odyssey had little kids mouthing off, like it had relevance.
@garydavenport5489
@garydavenport5489 4 жыл бұрын
Long live Mary Beard. Queen of Historians. I’ve spent most of this weekend watching and listening to her and can’t get enough. What a Dame!
@DrSchredder
@DrSchredder 4 жыл бұрын
She a decptive, lying piece of shit payed by rome and its hierachry. the real hsitory is pretty different, the romans in their later era were brutal savages who sacrificed peeople, fed them alive to lions, for example christians, the romans were scum. The Germanic tribes were not nearly as primitive as many think due to propaganda.
@rb9998
@rb9998 4 жыл бұрын
Mary is always authentic. She’s passionate about her work, brilliant and very open. Really appreciate her.
@draigan
@draigan 4 жыл бұрын
rofl i love what she saying about being incredibly polite but also putting someone down at the same time. Utterly brilliant! I am going to try this.
@ChannelHMC
@ChannelHMC 4 жыл бұрын
I could sit and listen to her speak all day. She is so intelligent and witty.
@maryamkim1281
@maryamkim1281 4 жыл бұрын
@Irina Popa there why you're watching and stirred enough to comment.
@caryulmer7063
@caryulmer7063 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this show. The guests are interesting & both the host & other guests listen intently to the speaker & have an Intellegent conversation together. Wish we had talk shows like this in our country instead of the gossipy, type we do have.
@brandonaldaymachuse6669
@brandonaldaymachuse6669 2 жыл бұрын
The other guests are absolutely in awe of her. Her wisdom, humor and wealth of history is something else.
@globalwarmingisreal2366
@globalwarmingisreal2366 4 жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure to listen to this fascinating lady!
@globalwarmingisreal2366
@globalwarmingisreal2366 4 жыл бұрын
A highly educated academic individual like this woman is denigrated about something as superficial and trivial as appearance, tells me all I need to know about the ignorant fools that exist in this world. I would suggest, they listen to her and learn something!
@paulinefriar6916
@paulinefriar6916 4 жыл бұрын
You can work hard and still get nowhere ask all those working 60 hr weeks on minimum salAry and still cannot afford to live alone. You need two salaries and even then it is a survivable salary and NOT a liveable salary
@farceadentus
@farceadentus 4 жыл бұрын
You need to learn to work smart. Working hard making someone else rich is not the way to riches.
@DG-gc8pv
@DG-gc8pv 4 жыл бұрын
Svens smart is putting the worlds best midfielders in positions where they dont get any of the ball
@LynnHarr
@LynnHarr 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting interview. I learned a lot from Mary Beard. Thank you!
@A_Salted_Fishe
@A_Salted_Fishe 4 жыл бұрын
Rare for a KZbin comment section to be this wholesome. Keep it up lads and lasses!
@jameswalsh2427
@jameswalsh2427 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Greetings from James J in Limerick city Ireland
@prairrie
@prairrie 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved Mary's documentaries. Very under exposed talented historian .
@suzettebatista1016
@suzettebatista1016 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 this show is so interesting and educational
@SkavlanTV
@SkavlanTV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Suzette!
@britbyname3620
@britbyname3620 4 жыл бұрын
Who is the Gonk that looks like a woman and asks the very “ intellectual “ question about how Romans greeted each other / kissing he’d read !!! Why is he there ????
@acreymundo
@acreymundo 4 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant panel. Love Dame Beard
@lilchickennugget8155
@lilchickennugget8155 4 жыл бұрын
She seems so pleasant..i would love to sit and talk with her.
@carolyncolinhogarth8732
@carolyncolinhogarth8732 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Dame Mary beard for here comments about how to get along with rude humans...Yes that is true....Often they can become your very best friends....If you ask questions to find out how someone thinks, if is often not only a shared conversation but one of enlightenment on many parts...I agree and enjoyed the conversation and the historical aspect of the Romans...I agree with her about her take on history also...It is one session after another of change...Please convey the gratitude for enlightenment...CDHx1
@stevehall9256
@stevehall9256 4 жыл бұрын
I have lost count of the number of women asking me to hold them down during sex. It works both ways
@MatiasGeraldoThe2nd
@MatiasGeraldoThe2nd 2 жыл бұрын
She tweeted me yesterday. And I’ll cherish it forever.
@leomachado7676
@leomachado7676 4 жыл бұрын
What a unique and scintillating person. Such knowledge and wisdom..❤️
@jonvelde5730
@jonvelde5730 4 жыл бұрын
"Being utterly polite while secretly undermining"- Christ, welcome to Minnesota!
@nejuw
@nejuw 4 жыл бұрын
What a lady! Love Mary Beard
@gregoryallen0001
@gregoryallen0001 4 жыл бұрын
imho luck doesn't come from hard work: it comes from being out in the world and being open
@Mugshot214
@Mugshot214 2 жыл бұрын
I love her documentaries! She makes history interesting and fun which can be hard to do.
@rivertam7827
@rivertam7827 4 жыл бұрын
The Celts were the bane of the Romans, the English were the colonisers, you can't just generically refer to "Britons" as if they're the same people and culture.
@akapbhan
@akapbhan 4 жыл бұрын
TBF Romans built sea walls and fortifications to stop the ancestors of English and Scandinavians from invading Britain
@mushypeasplease8872
@mushypeasplease8872 4 жыл бұрын
The Britons didn't just disappear though. Or emigrate. The various incomers weren't genocidal.
@hymanocohann2698
@hymanocohann2698 4 жыл бұрын
Each generation of history consists of the new, stepping upon the shoulders of the old, while cutting their throats.
@lynneceegee8726
@lynneceegee8726 4 жыл бұрын
Stella Mortis depends what you mean by the English and which timescale you are referring to. The Scots are very highly represented in the numbers of colonisers. All over the world they were overseers and managers of plantations and mines etc. Quite possibly the Welsh too, but noticeably the Scots.
@gerardvila4685
@gerardvila4685 4 жыл бұрын
First use of "Britons" was by the Romans, to mean the inhabitants of Britain. That's why there was a man called "Brittanicus" (meaning "he who defeated the Britons"). I think he was murdered by Nero... anyway he didn't make it to Emperor.
@ClareDarwish
@ClareDarwish 4 жыл бұрын
"he was on holiday, a bit drunk..... a bit disinhibited" how gracious. Going to follow her on Twitter now.
@pbohearn
@pbohearn 4 жыл бұрын
Her citation of the first piece of misogynistic literature in Western civilization with a straight line to Shakespeare’s “Taming of the Shrew.”
@TheWchurchill4pm
@TheWchurchill4pm Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Homer intended for his readers (I should say, listeners) to view Telemachus’ treatment of his mother as misogynistic? Or if we’re dispensing with anachronistic terms, did he intend for them to sympathize with Penelope in this scene?
@williamlane9844
@williamlane9844 4 жыл бұрын
She is an english woman who knows the history of england, most english people don't know the barbaric, and bloody history, of there own country, period,
@risenshine2783
@risenshine2783 4 жыл бұрын
William Lane we are losing our identity in the name of political correctness
@thetruth156real3
@thetruth156real3 4 жыл бұрын
Frances Jones The English working class, most of them on the bread line, have just voted a Tory Government in after ten years of Austerity, they don’t know the history of ten years never mind a thousand years. They have always been stupid and very heavily influenced by the Aristocracy.
@chrisdespard6392
@chrisdespard6392 4 жыл бұрын
liddy paul Is that not rather a sweeping statement to make?
@risenshine2783
@risenshine2783 4 жыл бұрын
liddy paul I disagree on many points
@seanpearce5809
@seanpearce5809 4 жыл бұрын
*their*
@williamchadwick7948
@williamchadwick7948 4 жыл бұрын
Most notorious Roman, Harvius Weinsteinius. As he was raping women, he would call out, "Are you not entertained?" He also had a unique way of fertilizing his olive trees.
@elcruzer5514
@elcruzer5514 4 жыл бұрын
LOL Good one!!
@lisaellis2593
@lisaellis2593 4 жыл бұрын
HA!HA!HA!HA!
@PammyR56
@PammyR56 4 жыл бұрын
I really like you Skavlan... great host!
@scouser2010ify
@scouser2010ify 4 жыл бұрын
I like skavlan and I like Matt beard her take on history is so unique and fresh she also just talks like a normal person unlike most historians
@jauipop
@jauipop 4 жыл бұрын
just discovered this show (thanks KZbin algorithm!) and subscribing now!
@weirdowilla1027
@weirdowilla1027 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the boy/girl ratio was different in early Roman times. Or is the prevailing theory that men (me) have just always been asholes?
@paulbart3156
@paulbart3156 4 жыл бұрын
My be just you
@weirdowilla1027
@weirdowilla1027 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Bart type much
@JAWilsonwhitetidelinedesigns
@JAWilsonwhitetidelinedesigns 4 жыл бұрын
A very interesting discussion. Dame Mary Beard continues to be a marvel and always such a pleasure to listen to her learned explanations about classic history, literature and human behavior. Thank you.
@zainabsiddiqui7358
@zainabsiddiqui7358 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you from Scotland.
@pixiepostcard2090
@pixiepostcard2090 4 жыл бұрын
I like it that Mary defends how she looks.. a normal human being!
@trollingisasport
@trollingisasport 4 жыл бұрын
A real human bean
@pixiepostcard2090
@pixiepostcard2090 4 жыл бұрын
@@trollingisasport lol 😉😊
@pixiepostcard2090
@pixiepostcard2090 4 жыл бұрын
@jay… instead of doing something like... ?!
@elcruzer5514
@elcruzer5514 4 жыл бұрын
@jay Like changing her sex? LOLLOL
@doomguy9049
@doomguy9049 4 жыл бұрын
She's a friendly gal and maybe a good sport as those things go but she's not someone you should look to want an accurate view of ancient history in my experience.
@doomguy9049
@doomguy9049 4 жыл бұрын
@@luanamoraes3578 yes
@aidenfrost7008
@aidenfrost7008 4 жыл бұрын
Luana Moraes appeal to authority fallacy.
@checkyourhead9
@checkyourhead9 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to get her and lucy worsely and rick steves together and talk to them
@claytonwalter8700
@claytonwalter8700 4 жыл бұрын
Rick Steves knows nothing. He has to research everything he does. The other two are PHDs. It's telling that you don't know any high level male academics. You must watch pbs.
@daffyrose
@daffyrose 4 жыл бұрын
Clayton Walter This is interesting. What’s wrong with doing research? What’s wrong with not knowing any high level male PhDs? You can still be interested? I was actually a bit disappointed in Professor Beard. But you know? It doesn’t matter? She’ll be fine! What’s wrong with watching PBS? I like PBS!
@miriamhavard7621
@miriamhavard7621 4 жыл бұрын
Not Rick Steves.........
@normanmacfarlane3049
@normanmacfarlane3049 4 жыл бұрын
Right , to my shame i have never hesrd of this lady before but now i find her mesmerizing and i shall make it my duty to dig out and read her books. She makes history come to life. Mych gratitude to you dear lady xxx
@dave9401
@dave9401 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! She is simply wonderful, in the truest sense of the word. 😍
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@generationofswine-ge5rw
@generationofswine-ge5rw 4 жыл бұрын
I needed to watch this because I inadvertently watched a news show where some Americans were talking. They place no value at all on education or knowledge and I can't really understand why they're talking at all.
@zealandzen
@zealandzen 4 жыл бұрын
I would not assume that the ancient Egyptians or any other ancients treated captive women any better than the Romans did.
@ezekiel3791
@ezekiel3791 4 жыл бұрын
How you don't understand? The point was Rome (the most juridical ancient state ever) been represented as a wild tyrannous patriarchal society. So, we should be ashamed of our genetic and spiritual ancestors.
@sayem7002
@sayem7002 4 жыл бұрын
Early Muslim empires did
@Maza675
@Maza675 4 жыл бұрын
@@sayem7002 that's not how the life of mohammad or history books read
@sayem7002
@sayem7002 4 жыл бұрын
@@Maza675 I'm not sure about your source of history books. You might give an example which made you think that way and we can discuss to see if it's true what you're claiming or if it's just the twisted words of islamophobes repeated over and and over which you presumably took as historic recordings.
@Thebluebridgetroll
@Thebluebridgetroll 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how accurate this is. Ancient Egypt was WILDLY different in approach to women. It was much, MUCH more egalitarian. Now, I don't know if that's because it was an older continuous culture, or if it was because of the greater reliance on agriculture over pastoralism, or perhaps maybe because it was an incredibly centralized state where the land and everything and everyone in it belonged to the Pharaoh (and thus authority of men over women becomes moot, because EVERYONE is effectively the Pharaoh's property) but it seems as if the egalitarian nature of hunter gatherer cultures made the transition to settled agriculture much more readily in Ancient Egypt. I would be unsurprised if it had to do with pastoralism, though. You see this, for example, in the New World. All the cultures that became predominantly agricultural run on a spectrum from egalitarian with patriarchal leanings to outright matriarchy, effectively; but no matter where you were, if maize was involved, women were revered. Contrast this with the plains tribes who adopted equine pastoralism post contact: all semblance or pretense towards female equality or superiority goes out the window, and you're left with an incredibly patriarchal society where women are almost property. When you look at the ancient and classical world, the worst offenders in terms of the subjugation of women all have pastoral roots. The middle east, the arabian peninsula, Mesopotamia, the levant, all relied VERY heavily on herding. The greeks and the romans were both Indo European in origin, a nomadic pastoralist group. Something about having a heavy dependence on herding goats or sheep or cattle or horses makes societies more patriarchal. Ancient Egypt, meanwhile, not so much. That's not to say that there were NO domesticated animals in Egypt, there certainly were. But they played a much smaller role than did grain, because the Nile is a wheat producing powerhouse.
@nigewood4945
@nigewood4945 4 жыл бұрын
This lady is definitely what one might call 'good copy'. What a fascinating woman.
@bettynolo23
@bettynolo23 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to have a glass of wine with this lady, I could listen to her for days!❤
@yuurishibuya4797
@yuurishibuya4797 4 жыл бұрын
This show puts together some amazing talks, such a civil host! Have you heard of anyone listening to the guest speakers these days?
@savos020
@savos020 4 жыл бұрын
unless you are on the side of masculine and that of self responsibilty then he is exposed as fake news
@godzilla2k26
@godzilla2k26 4 жыл бұрын
Rubin Report?
@godzilla2k26
@godzilla2k26 4 жыл бұрын
@@savos020 How so?
@nancyblake1679
@nancyblake1679 4 жыл бұрын
She is such a star! (And as a fellow advocate of unfailing courtesy, as a response to the cabbage tweet, ‘When did you do your research?, .... Just a thought....)
@Boudicca165
@Boudicca165 4 жыл бұрын
Nancy, I wholeheartedly agree. The lady informs without patronising, she is humorous, intelligent and loves her subject. She is a lovely, civilised lady.
@legalvampire8136
@legalvampire8136 4 жыл бұрын
I wish she gave more evidence for what she says about the Romans e.g. not smiling. As far as I know they had no word in Latin for 'smiling' but that does not prove they did not do it. They may just have said 'Gaius looked happy' when we would say 'Gaius was smiling'. Likewise they had no words in Latin for nephews and nieces, but that does not mean they did not have them. They simply referred to them as 'my sister's son' , 'my brother's daughter' etc.
@meorrrrw4020
@meorrrrw4020 3 жыл бұрын
She is less of a historian and more of a storyteller in my eyes... I think she likes to twist history to suit her narrative.
@lyndenjeffries2735
@lyndenjeffries2735 4 жыл бұрын
Great show, thank you I'll be back 👍
Mary Beard: The Waterstones Interview
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