- The Romans celebrated rape | Interview with Dame Mary Beard | SVT/TV 2/Skavlan

[@proudindiancitizen2494]

I love her for who she is... a fantastic lady who exudes confidence, a classy sense humour, quick wit.... and above all superb intelligence! I think these attributes make her a beautiful person!

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I can listen to her forever. She is enchanting, charismatic and erudite. The rare scholar who is totally interesting.

Agreed

[@kittynakamoto2449]

Max Watkins irrelevant

[@maxwatkins5166]

@@kittynakamoto2449 entirely irrelevant, just restoring balance

[@kittynakamoto2449]

Max Watkins that’s not what balance means in this context

[@maxwatkins5166]

@@kittynakamoto2449 I hold my hands up, my first comment was ridiculously ignorant, unnecessary and irrelevant

[@hand587]

She makes the most complex moments in history very relatable

[@joanncaribbeanfan4505]

@Kwiene Makeda To EVERYONE

[@joanncaribbeanfan4505]

Fair enough

[@latinaalma1947]

Could you PLEASE stop apologizing for the Empire? Once you started that you were on the road to perdition....enormous numbers of former colonials then had the right to emigrate to Britian, were there ANY constraints at all after the war? And I suppose the labor party dreamed it was a way to permanent power? THat is why the Dems in the USA keep on importing huge numbers of Third World people so they can get new voters. In neither case has it helped them much lately BUT that was the strategy was it not? SInce you constantly perform this mea culpa we Americans followed along with Obama's apology tour and that is turned then around on us all, fueling the attitude "right time to get rid of Brits, Americans, etc" Today with Nigel Farage's farewell speech to the EU in Strassbourg you should,just quit saying this nonsense!

[@2Sugarbears]

The presenter of this program actually listens....I am in shock!

[@nejuw]

It's a great show, found it by accident a year ago, and always look forward to his interviews. Love the way the other guests get involved in the conversation as well.

[@merlinmediagroup]

He really does. He asks genuinely interesting questions and allows the interviewees to talk instead of allowing the show to be all about him.

[@2Sugarbears]

@@merlinmediagroup And he doesn't TALK OVER THEM....what a treat!

[@joaninha3484]

It’s how chat shows should be !

[@savos020]

if you are a woman yes he listens intently but if you watch the Jordan Peterson interview he has this smirk of complete disrespect almost like he couldnt believe what he/she was hearing nothing worse than a victim stancing male feminist

[@michaell1452]

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[@dalehoward3704]

I love her too-she handled the rude poster brilliantly 👌

[@srevero1]

I adore her....

[@OceanSwimmer]

Isn't it interesting to see the jealousy written on the faces of the other guests! Mary has NO AGENDA when she describes historical facts. She removes the romantic notions many have about the Roman era. She's read the original texts & graffiti, held the artifacts in her hands, and questioned archeological specialists (as well as visited the sites) to uncover the truths about how people lived and died thousands of years ago. Thank you, Mary Beard, for sharing the unvarnished history of ourselves.

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

She's truly incredible

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

And she's sexy as hell

[@thechumpsbeendumped.7797]

I like Mary she’s not only extremely intelligent she’s got a good sense of humour.

[@Kitiwake]

She loves talking about rape....a feminist wishful attempt at controlling the sex act through the use of consent. "I did consent this time but I didn't consent the last".

[@elcruzer5514]

I love Mary. She's a walking encyclopedia of Wester Civ. And makes it all so very interesting that I want to hear more.

[@OceanSwimmer]

@@Kitiwake ---- Is your comment about this interview, or about another? I don't see how you connect her comment about rape as a cultural phenomenon in ancient Rome, and anything inferred about Western culture today. Do explain.

[@torysetliff]

People who insult a woman's physical appearance are intimidated by some aspect of the said woman's power. Thus, people who are degrading toward this woman, must feel insufficient intellectually. I quite enjoyed this interview. Thanks from Texas.

Shes a bit of a whale tho..no?

[@torysetliff]

Paul O'Rourke I repeat, “insufficient intellectually.” lol

[@JC-nn4if]

@ why can t someone be a whale then? Is there a law or something?

[@JC-nn4if]

@ some are whales, some others are not the full ticket...

@@JC-nn4if whale away to your hearts content.

[@infin8ee]

Just love Mary Beard. So intelligent ,likeable and down to earth. Her joy in classical history is clearly evident as is her scholarship. I would love to spend time with her listening to her talk on whatever subject she likes ! A wonderful , charming woman -delightful 💕

[@sonia354]

She’s an amazing woman, extremely clever, and very humble. She announced in May 2021 that she was giving £80,000 for two people from disadvantaged backgrounds to study classical studies at University, the reason she did it is because she said “it’s the right thing to do”.

[@RaineeG62]

I think Dame Mary is quite a lovely person. I love her documentaries. I could "sit at her feet" and learn from her for hours.

[@adorable3817]

First time I ever saw Dame Mary 💚 so glad to hear she has documentaries - will check them out right away

[@RaineeG62]

@Jeffery Widegirth it's a biblical reference.

[@adorable3817]

@Jeffery Widegirth 🤢

[@andrewblake2254]

When the Romans met the British,,,,, two million football hooligans covered in blue paint asking "Wot you looking at Julius!"

[@kimberlynolin2100]

Lol

[@charlesbanks457]

You just won the internet

[@mischarowe]

Lol brilliant.

[@cbarclay99]

"You want some?" and "You're going back to Rome in a fucking ambulance."

[@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913]

What? Rome conquered England in no time compared to other territories like Iberia or even France!

[@teresashortnacy9472]

I like Mary just the way she is.

[@lollll9932]

She says "The Romans celebrated rape" Meanwhile, the Islamists still do.

[@whatever-ou2he]

@@lollll9932 by 'Islamists' if you mean Muslims, well no they don't. Rape is forbidden. A man having any physical contact with a woman or vice versa is not allowed in Islam. There's more to say on this topic but I'm tired of people's insistence on believing nonsense no matter what they're told.

[@noelgrassy4278]

@Mathius S And trump.

[@elcruzer5514]

@@whatever-ou2he Women may be forbidden, but I guess little girls are OK??

[@DAS1962]

I have become addicted to Skavlan - always considered questions, and interesting mix of guests - thank goodness for the internet. From Australia

[@BorderCollieMom]

David S Total agreement, from the other side of the planet...Cheers from Canada.

[@sallyjenko2315]

“In America, you WOULD say, ‘I worked really hard and I’m really smart,’ even though you were lucky.” Yup.

[@KidCity1985]

The harder you work the luckier you get.

[@beverlybalius9303]

In America you can go as highas you want to go.

[@HulksterRunsWild]

@@beverlybalius9303 if they let you

[@rhabdob3895]

Julie Anderson you are just adorable.

[@ridesharegold6659]

Nah, the American expression is "work smarter, not harder."

[@ladyTiger0714]

She's unbelievably brilliant, and through my eyes, she is beautiful. She can come to my house any time for coffee and cake.

@jay Trying to be witty and funny? Ok, fair enough, that was a good one.

[@liloleist5133]

@@djanitatiana Since women bear children, yes.

[@jacksprat429]

Lilo Leist Did you not mean bear children.

[@liloleist5133]

@@jacksprat429 Yes, of course, thanks 😉👍

[@jacksprat429]

Lilo Leist 🤗😂

[@wildplumbeauty]

One of my most favourite academics. She makes history come alive when she speaks.

[@savos020]

that is because she is speaking in the toungue of a victim andyou obviously see yourself as one too

[@wildplumbeauty]

@savos020 Did you even read my comment properly or watch the entire video? I am talking about her ACADEMIC work. She has authored a few books, is a professor at Cambridge University and has done a few BBC shows on Ancient Rome just to mention a few of the things she’s done.

[@savos020]

@@wildplumbeauty Yes I did read your comment and it was vacuous and lacked any conclusion that i could respect, it bothered me as if someone had farted down a long canyon and I kept hearing this fecal tone of Victimhood. Because that and Toxic masculinity is what she peddles with her education and however many books she authored. For anyone to say such brain dead and pandering things about an "academic" who peddles hate of Men and Victim stance of women obvious didnt learn much with her education. Sorry if my facts hurt your feelings, your vacuous pandering to a hateful person simply had to be called out.

[@zimzob]

savos020 you sound like a permanent victim, quite whiny.

[@savos020]

@@zimzob That's a fine way to project your issues on someone, maybe you should hug your Mom or something it sounds like you need a hug cuz your fellow feminazis don't give men hugs too bad for you.

[@davidwirth2716]

I enjoy listening to her , the interviewer and guest did the right thing listen and don't interrupt. Smart lady , she always knows how to tell a story with such enthusiasm.

[@bambit08]

Thank you Mary Beard and Skavlan - so entertaining. So much more interesting, informative and original than other shows. 👏👏

[@SkavlanTV]

Thanks so much! We appreciate it!

[@NDiaz-et6hc]

Omg Skavlan I adored this!!! This lady is just fascinating! I had never heard of her but now I will Google her books!! The entire interview had me hanging on every word, Tak Skavlan and Cheers from Canada

[@SkavlanTV]

We're thrilled to hear that we have viewers in Canada! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!

[@acchaladka]

@@SkavlanTV you definitely have viewers in Canada! Wish we'd do more to become a more Nordic country / adopt more of your practices.

[@jodrew1845]

That was fun, I'm in the USA but will be following her from now on. She fantastic.

[@emeldamcdowald8521]

Jo Drew ditto.

[@pyrebird555]

it's killing me how the other 3 guests are staring at Ms. Beard like she's a foreign entity of some sort

[@annh1734]

I know! lol - especially that girl next to her...

[@joeroganjosh9333]

ann H Either she can’t speak English or she’s thinking about pickled herring and brannvin.

[@PropunKla]

I would be in awe of her. I hope that is what it is.

[@leavoda3791]

It wouldn't surprise me if she actually was like a foreign entity to them, because they do not often meet or talk to an eloquent female expert

[@AshMukherjeeOfficial]

Yep I felt that as well. Specially the gentlemen in the dark purple checked shirt.

[@tosapai297]

"All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health ... what have the Romans ever done for us?"

[@guinevereinthefield176]

Tosapai 🤣👍🏻

[@gangapoornima]

yeah okay, but its inevitable right, i mean Egyptians and Persian also improved that , if time matters in our measurement today, they were even earlier on in progress with those issues, i like your comment.

[@BenKyjovka]

Peace?

[@tomstephens3029]

I get the reference but the reality is Celtic Britain was actually a sophisticated society that was fine until the Romans turned up and ruined it.

[@jordymaas565]

&.... britcoin

[@anwitasarin]

Interesting woman...looks at things from obscure angles , she makes you think whether or not you like what she is saying.

[@hankrogers8431]

YOU HATE THE TRUTH?

[@sorellman]

Yup, looks at things from such obscure angles that she makes absolutely no sense. Presenting a baseless assumption as irrefutable fact is what everybody does these days. It's one sure way to make a good living.

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

Half of it was BS. Romans didn't smile!? There is no place on earth where people don't smile. But I suppose that she believes that Inuits, or Tibetans, or lost tribes on the Amazon were taught to smile by Europeans.

[@hankrogers8431]

@@Kermit_T_Frog Do you even KNOW history or are you just running your trap?

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

@@hankrogers8431 The Odyssey was Greek, not Roman. Greek culture had damn near nothing in common with Roman culture. And even among Greek cities the status of women differed greatly. In ancient Sparta, men were occupied training for war, leaving the business of running the country to the women. The dumbest thing she said was that Telemachus was an "adolescent." His age was not mentioned in the Odyssey, but his father, Odysseus, had been away for 20 years.

[@deborahkelly1018]

Those who claim there is no humility in America have never been to Minnesota.

[@dorothysay8327]

Deborah Kelly or anywhere else in the US, really. They’re just watching movies 🙄

[@ellalal3405]

I can t wait to go, I flew into the airport at St Paul Minneapolis. I was treated very fairly there. I hear it gets cold. And it the Autumn and Spring be lovely too

[@yellowblanka6058]

Or anywhere outside of major cities.

[@markvoelker6620]

And he uttered his remark in such a humble manner.

[@noelpucarua2843]

But you have to take into account that Minnesota is a suburb of Scandinavia.

[@Rebecca-ii2nq]

Mary Beard, you enraptured the stage with your warmth and genuineness, it was beautiful to watch, I am delighted you are a dame ( a less than flattering title tho, unlike knight-white or in shining armour). I am taking this opportunity to thank you, I have been on many trips with your imagination inspiring narration, unique of your experience, education, creativity and humour, allowing me to see beyond my knowledge, I am very grateful.

[@hollyhocks7360]

Kwiene Makeda What?

[@clairbearonabroom]

brilliantly put chill pill. i concur .

[@wildplumbeauty]

@Chill Pill I so AGREE. I hang on every word she says in her bbc shows. I think she’s gorgeous by the way. Not in the traditional sense but more in a Cleopatra sort of way. Her mind makes her beautiful and enchanting.

[@Rebecca-ii2nq]

@@wildplumbeauty Mary attributes it to privilege, I believe all women are beautiful and enchanting when we choose, men too.

[@Rebecca-ii2nq]

@Kwiene Makeda thank you, your opinion is twice noted.

[@fonkyhonky1979]

I don’t think Professor Beard is ugly... A GIANT for anyone who cares about history, OR intellectual pursuit... To hear her relay the debauched comments she received is heartbreaking. I clicked on this link to hear her infectious enthusiasm for understanding history. I think if more people opened their ears & minds, and consequently closed their uninformed & unpleasant mouths, we’d all be a little better off. I’d go WAAAY outta my way just to hear her lecture & teach, let alone to see her lovely Beethoven piano smile... glad I got to be in the world when she was here too!

[@stdio44.32]

Romans also celebrated mass, public executions in the Colosseum, which is (incidentally) how they helped to start Christianity.

[@lorettalynndavis9695]

...And how they helped to destroy it under later Roman Rulers...

[@ricardocima]

Public executions were celebrated long long after the romans. It was a common thing throughout Europe.

[@denverbritto5606]

@@ricardocima didnt turn it into a sport though

[@ricardocima]

Such difference...

[@pbj9270]

And the proto beginnings of the NFL!

[@davisholman6518]

American from Scottsdale, Arizona. I adore Dame Mary Beard. What a treasure trove of knowledge! I could listen to her for days on end.💕

[@joshua.910]

She's a national treasure 🫶

[@zbigniewchodor2217]

Mary Beard ....... please do some more shows about romans ........ please ..... please ....... please ....... I love your shows it is very nice to listen to the historical voice .......

[@christrinder1255]

Excellent! Always enjoy listening to Mary Beard, and watching her history documentaries 👏👍😊

[@rolandhawken6628]

chris trinder You need to broaden your reading a bit mate she is a lefty liar on many subjects . for instance what destroyed Rome ? she lies about it none stop

[@risenshine2783]

Roland Hawken not lies, it will be her interpretation, she isnt lying!

[@godzilla2k26]

@@risenshine2783 That would depend. Iceberg sunk the Titanic, there isn't very many ways to interpret that. Once you start saying it was aliens you probably are a little off.

[@tonymcneil978]

Many people around the world work very hard, but it does not increase their luck. Many times it just increases their oppression.

[@mattdonahue9516]

are you saying they should take a mental health day?

[@tonymcneil978]

@@mattdonahue9516 sure why not? Do what you need to do for you.

[@gregoryallen0001]

THANK you lol

[@farceadentus]

Tony McNeil the secret to wealth is “leverage”. Working smart. Not working hard making someone else rich.

[@StreetfighterU]

@@farceadentus shhh don't make them think

[@jenster29]

She points out how out of touch Prince Andrew was in the interview, as compared to the rest of us. Did she not consider that the roman history she's read was by and about the same elite type of people and it in no way reflected the actual everyday person? The play about the rape, could very well have been written by a Prince Andrew type. And regular people would have been just as disgusted as us today.. Just a thought.

[@MurdaIncorporated]

penelope pittstop very insightful

[@lavinder11]

There are historical accounts as well....

[@kittynakamoto2449]

Ioannis Polemarkhos why do you types obsess over other gender? Such an unoriginal complaint, you must not have a life

[@jenster29]

@@ioannispolemarkhos7364 what are you on about?

[@carenann918]

Penolope Maybe you aren't familiar with Mary Beard's work? Just watch some of her shows that are posted here on youtube. She's fantastic. And yes, she has considered that.

[@karensinclair4189]

Your show is wonderful! Have seen nothing else like it.

[@claucemicro1080]

Karen Sinclair And the stage is like a ring of fire! 🔥

[@savos020]

that is because you live in an echo chamber

[@markewings7525]

So impressive that this is broadcast in English in Scandinavia

[@MasterBlaster220]

lel

[@robertbarnier45]

Mary is entertainment plus. Thanks for the joy 𝙼𝚊𝚛𝚢. Aussie Bob x

[@burtcocain1986]

Classy woman. Like her a lot.

[@staciesheppard2048]

Thank you! What an interesting woman - just found another person I'd like to know more about

[@2Sugarbears]

@incogneto The woman had nothing to say, don't know why, the men were afraid of what Mary was going to say...they gave all of the 'tells' just watch them.

[@casrifay]

stacie sheppard got exactly the same feeling

[@davebox588]

@incogneto an acknowledged authority on the subject describing in depth how a culture found rape amusing, was not interesting? Can I suggest you search KZbin for something sufficiently lowbrow that doesn't challenge you too much?

[@Lurklen]

@incogneto If you watch the whole thing through she gets a few laughs, and the other guests engage with her on the later topics. Not really sure what you're talking about.

[@jenniferbringman9054]

Dave Box 😆

[@cornishmaid5073]

I don’t imagine the women and men who were raped celebrated anything.

[@brucelomax3375]

You're right.

[@cici7739]

I love how real she is about it. So many historians seem to romanticise ancient cultures

[@RealinDealer]

Let's not make sweeping generalizations. Marcus Aurelius was Roman too.

[@no79way]

Always extraordinary conversations on this show!!!!

[@SkavlanTV]

Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback, Rajeh! We appreciate it.

[@rickbecker3239]

Mary and her documentaries about Rome added immeasurably to my visit to many historic sites in Italy. Thank you Mary!!

[@joaninha3484]

Great interview as always. Love Mary Beard.

[@SkavlanTV]

Thank you, we're glad to hear you like it!

[@Chickmamapalletfarm]

The fella who mention the way American would reply to “how did you get so successful?” He is so right... in the USA, we would totally say “I worked my ass off, stayed focused, and made it happen”.

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

Even if others did most of the work. It does sound better that way. And fits our sense of fairness.

[@joshuawilliamson6839]

@@kathryngeeslin9509 what others..no one clocks me in and out of work or pays my bills this is 2020 not 1700

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

@@joshuawilliamson6839 Congratulations. Self employed is best if you can manage it.

[@generationofswine-ge5rw]

I climbed up the ladder built by the generations before me, then pulled it in so that the next generation can never be a successful self-made man like me.

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

@@generationofswine-ge5rw This has been true of most generations, especially since industrial revolution, but horrendously true of those who care enough to vote last 40 years. It would seem those ready to take credit for the ladders built by previous efforts are also more than willing to pull those ladders up or destroy them, then complain new workers are "lazy" because they don't climb as far and fast.

[@jaythompson5102]

One of the most brilliant historians alive IMO

[@ricardocima]

She used to be a historian, now she's an activist just because some internet trolls said that she's ugly. Arnaldo Momigliano's parents were murdered in Auschwitz and he never said a word a about it, just kept being a historian.

[@jaythompson5102]

@Bilbo Baggins Oh well when you put it that way ...

[@jaythompson5102]

@Kwiene Makeda How is she a liar? Please keep this to history nobody cares about social media drama.

[@jaythompson5102]

@Kwiene Makeda How could you call a person uneducated without knowing the person? Can you give one example of cherry picked data? Just one please.

[@godzilla2k26]

@@jaythompson5102 She just said in this interview the Odyssey had little kids mouthing off, like it had relevance.

[@hs5167]

I love her shows. I wish every history teacher brought such interesting lessons to the classroom.

[@americanwoman8967]

"That's because they never met the Vikings" very funny Skavlan

[@traceyarnaud8433]

@norma armstrong Would you bring up her age if she were a man?

[@timsmith2279]

American woman, the vikings travelled from Sweden in their long boats thru Russia to as far as Bulgaria, Romania, and Greece, where they were employed as mercenaries, they were tall strong good with knives and swords, many stayed behind and settled.

[@vencejo7572]

Except he said "That's because they never met the "Wikings"!

[@dajogb3330]

norma armstrong What an ignorant, abuse justifying moron you are. They all raped so that’s ok!?!?! To bring up a persons age just damns your puerile bullshit. Education and intelligence is obviously an anathema to a person of your ill education. Your sickening lack of anything approaching the IQ of a fully functioning human is an insult to whichever species you have any form of affinity with.

[@godzilla2k26]

@@dajogb3330 It's probably a jab at hiding behind her age as some do.

[@williamlane9844]

She is an english woman who knows the history of england, most english people don't know the barbaric, and bloody history, of there own country, period,

[@risenshine2783]

William Lane we are losing our identity in the name of political correctness

[@thetruth156real3]

Frances Jones The English working class, most of them on the bread line, have just voted a Tory Government in after ten years of Austerity, they don’t know the history of ten years never mind a thousand years. They have always been stupid and very heavily influenced by the Aristocracy.

[@BertMelert]

liddy paul Is that not rather a sweeping statement to make?

[@risenshine2783]

liddy paul I disagree on many points

[@seanpearce5809]

*their*

[@emmaphilo4049]

It is not working hard but working smart. The working hard tale is to make us slaves.

[@zztopz7090]

Why not both? We can't all be academics. And you sstil have to work hard in any job.

[@woodlefoof2]

Quarkine I here is the thing You can’t control luck and it favors the bold, if you aren’t working hard and building up enough resources to use when you need to use them and when using them would be advantageous, and more importantly, if luck is the only thing that you can rely on you WILL fail. For example Columbus was lucky because he discovered the new world on a peaceful area, The Vikings landed in a more hostile area. Both had fairly limited manpower, and both were aggressive.but Columbus had more tech and could control the area better, and he even attacked on his terms. That’s why Leif Erickson didn’t matter but Columbus did. Columbus staked a claim and brought the Spanish over. However neither of them just lucked into the America’s, they had navigation skills.boats, a planned course, a desire to explore, a skilled crew that could steer away from danger, planned rations that could last the journey, etc etc. in the Vikings case they could possibly see the America’s from Greenland. And if the people on the ships were lazy they would have died, the crews did their jobs they didn’t hope that money and spices would rain down from the sky, they hoped money and spices could be gained from this new route to India. In other words. when that slut we call Lady Luck decides you look cute, if your dick isn’t hard right then and there you aren’t getting blown, and she might blue ball you because she got bored and you’ll just have to finish yourself off so you still need hands. Side note: I don’t think the Spanish cared about Columbus’s cruelty, towards the natives based on the conquistadors, I think that is character assassination to make him seem bad even by the days standards because we feel ashamed of our origins.

[@paulashe7460]

Get rid of your credit cards. End indentured slavery.

[@emmaphilo4049]

@@zztopz7090 yes both is good. But working smart is more important than just working hard

[@brucetrappleton6984]

My wild guess is that you are either very young and don't know about work, or you have a lot of money. Otherwise you should know that working smart and working hard are not opposites. Many times in order to make your "working smart" effective, you'll have to work hard. The only people in this world who can have the privilege of NOT working hard are the rich. That doesn't mean they work smart. It means they live from other people's work.

[@paulinefriar6916]

You can work hard and still get nowhere ask all those working 60 hr weeks on minimum salAry and still cannot afford to live alone. You need two salaries and even then it is a survivable salary and NOT a liveable salary

[@farceadentus]

You need to learn to work smart. Working hard making someone else rich is not the way to riches.

[@DG-gc8pv]

Svens smart is putting the worlds best midfielders in positions where they dont get any of the ball

[@joeyfitz9]

Oh mon dieu, Mary Beard AND Malcolm Gladwell on the same stage?! Heaven.

[@terrybaker8156]

Are they adversaries?

[@laswan5]

I would love to hang out with Mary. Maybe take a walk through Pompei or someplace. She's awesome.

[@Kaddywompous]

I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this today!

[@garydavenport5489]

Long live Mary Beard. Queen of Historians. I’ve spent most of this weekend watching and listening to her and can’t get enough. What a Dame!

[@MasterBlaster220]

She a decptive, lying piece of shit payed by rome and its hierachry. the real hsitory is pretty different, the romans in their later era were brutal savages who sacrificed peeople, fed them alive to lions, for example christians, the romans were scum. The Germanic tribes were not nearly as primitive as many think due to propaganda.

[@ChannelHMC]

I could sit and listen to her speak all day. She is so intelligent and witty.

[@maryamkim1281]

@Irina Popa there why you're watching and stirred enough to comment.

[@lisathuban8969]

"There is no tradition of self-deprecation in America." Not true. Traditional Southern manners are full of that kind of behavior. Modesty is also a thing in the upper Midwest. Listen to any "Lake Wobegon" episode, and you will see what I mean.

[@motorcop505]

Lisa Thuban He is a typical leftist who has no trouble with making mass generalizations about anyone who disagrees with them.

[@lisathuban8969]

@@motorcop505 Which is strange, because you just did exactly the same thing. And you let that irony slip right by. You just made a sweeping assumption about the Left, which I AM a part of. The "Left" lives here too. We pay taxes too,. Our kids grow up here too.. We love our country too. And you are obviously one of those who is poisoned by Rightist propaganda that believes for some bizarre reason, we're out to destroy the place we work and live . Not all of you are this blind, I don't want to make a sweeping generalization about the Right, lots of good people on both sides, but I hear this crap all the time. See that house next to you? That normal neighbor? He's probably on the Left. See the house on the other side of you? He's probably on the Right, and yet they show up at the neighborhood BBQ together, the kids go to school together, and somehow, it' all works out. Let's get back to realizing that, shall we?

[@gustavmarie]

True, both country music and blues are full of self-depreciation and ironic humor.

[@kareno7848]

Shoes how much she knows!

[@laurawilloughby4000]

@@lisathuban8969 Thank you.

[@lilchickennugget8155]

She seems so pleasant..i would love to sit and talk with her.

[@jefvarnadore2267]

Mary exudes charisma.. I could listen to her all day.

[@rivertam7827]

The Celts were the bane of the Romans, the English were the colonisers, you can't just generically refer to "Britons" as if they're the same people and culture.

[@akapbhan]

TBF Romans built sea walls and fortifications to stop the ancestors of English and Scandinavians from invading Britain

[@mushypeasplease8872]

The Britons didn't just disappear though. Or emigrate. The various incomers weren't genocidal.

[@hymanocohann2698]

Each generation of history consists of the new, stepping upon the shoulders of the old, while cutting their throats.

[@lynneceegee8726]

Stella Mortis depends what you mean by the English and which timescale you are referring to. The Scots are very highly represented in the numbers of colonisers. All over the world they were overseers and managers of plantations and mines etc. Quite possibly the Welsh too, but noticeably the Scots.

[@gerardvila4685]

First use of "Britons" was by the Romans, to mean the inhabitants of Britain. That's why there was a man called "Brittanicus" (meaning "he who defeated the Britons"). I think he was murdered by Nero... anyway he didn't make it to Emperor.

[@MatiasGeraldoThe2nd]

She tweeted me yesterday. And I’ll cherish it forever.

[@nejuw]

What a lady! Love Mary Beard

[@caryulmer7063]

I really enjoy this show. The guests are interesting & both the host & other guests listen intently to the speaker & have an Intellegent conversation together. Wish we had talk shows like this in our country instead of the gossipy, type we do have.

[@pixiepostcard2090]

I like it that Mary defends how she looks.. a normal human being!

[@trollingisasport]

A real human bean

[@pixiepostcard2090]

@@trollingisasport lol 😉😊

[@pixiepostcard2090]

@jay… instead of doing something like... ?!

[@elcruzer5514]

@jay Like changing her sex? LOLLOL

[@globalwarmingisreal2366]

It was a pleasure to listen to this fascinating lady!

[@globalwarmingisreal2366]

A highly educated academic individual like this woman is denigrated about something as superficial and trivial as appearance, tells me all I need to know about the ignorant fools that exist in this world. I would suggest, they listen to her and learn something!

[@gregoryallen0001]

imho luck doesn't come from hard work: it comes from being out in the world and being open

[@rb9998]

Mary is always authentic. She’s passionate about her work, brilliant and very open. Really appreciate her.

[@prairrie]

I absolutely loved Mary's documentaries. Very under exposed talented historian .

[@brandonaldaymachuse6669]

The other guests are absolutely in awe of her. Her wisdom, humor and wealth of history is something else.

[@EDDIELANE]

Love you Mary Beard!! You invoke your excitment in every subject!

[@jonvelde5730]

"Being utterly polite while secretly undermining"- Christ, welcome to Minnesota!

[@zealandzen]

I would not assume that the ancient Egyptians or any other ancients treated captive women any better than the Romans did.

[@ezekiel3791]

How you don't understand? The point was Rome (the most juridical ancient state ever) been represented as a wild tyrannous patriarchal society. So, we should be ashamed of our genetic and spiritual ancestors.

[@sayem7002]

Early Muslim empires did

[@Maza675]

@@sayem7002 that's not how the life of mohammad or history books read

[@sayem7002]

@@Maza675 I'm not sure about your source of history books. You might give an example which made you think that way and we can discuss to see if it's true what you're claiming or if it's just the twisted words of islamophobes repeated over and and over which you presumably took as historic recordings.

[@Thebluebridgetroll]

I'm not sure how accurate this is. Ancient Egypt was WILDLY different in approach to women. It was much, MUCH more egalitarian. Now, I don't know if that's because it was an older continuous culture, or if it was because of the greater reliance on agriculture over pastoralism, or perhaps maybe because it was an incredibly centralized state where the land and everything and everyone in it belonged to the Pharaoh (and thus authority of men over women becomes moot, because EVERYONE is effectively the Pharaoh's property) but it seems as if the egalitarian nature of hunter gatherer cultures made the transition to settled agriculture much more readily in Ancient Egypt. I would be unsurprised if it had to do with pastoralism, though. You see this, for example, in the New World. All the cultures that became predominantly agricultural run on a spectrum from egalitarian with patriarchal leanings to outright matriarchy, effectively; but no matter where you were, if maize was involved, women were revered. Contrast this with the plains tribes who adopted equine pastoralism post contact: all semblance or pretense towards female equality or superiority goes out the window, and you're left with an incredibly patriarchal society where women are almost property. When you look at the ancient and classical world, the worst offenders in terms of the subjugation of women all have pastoral roots. The middle east, the arabian peninsula, Mesopotamia, the levant, all relied VERY heavily on herding. The greeks and the romans were both Indo European in origin, a nomadic pastoralist group. Something about having a heavy dependence on herding goats or sheep or cattle or horses makes societies more patriarchal. Ancient Egypt, meanwhile, not so much. That's not to say that there were NO domesticated animals in Egypt, there certainly were. But they played a much smaller role than did grain, because the Nile is a wheat producing powerhouse.

[@A_Salted_Fishe]

Rare for a KZbin comment section to be this wholesome. Keep it up lads and lasses!

[@ClareDarwish]

"he was on holiday, a bit drunk..... a bit disinhibited" how gracious. Going to follow her on Twitter now.

[@Dr.Bitterbrains333]

Her knowledge of history is never ending a amazing person what a mind

[@asielnorton345]

I watch all her videos on KZbin and enjoy them. But I don’t like judging cultures of the past by present moral standards. I think that’s a mistake academically. I also disagree that people across time and culture couldn’t find commonalities. As a person that’s traveled to very remote areas and interacted with cultures with perhaps just as great a difference to us as Romans and got along fine.

[@JointFive]

I think it would be more culture shock than most could take. I do agree to not judge history through our own eyes, as we still treat other very badly ourselves

[@jasonkeene8910]

Analysis of history requires judgement. Analysis of the present requires judgement. Without judgement, its an academic nothing.

[@asielnorton345]

bearraaaaTV I was unaware that a specific time and region namely Western Europe and North America today had figured everything out. So we recognize and act on universal moral principles today? And 1000 years from now we are confident the laws we live by today in our particular region will continue to be recognized? Cool.

[@asielnorton345]

Jason Keene that makes absolutely no sense. But it sounds cool.

[@angelicalicari8355]

We aren't looking down on ancient Romans because "We think rape is bad!", we're looking down on them because they dehumanized their women far enough to accept forced sex as long as the perpetrator "owned" her in some way (BF, husband). Being able to enjoy yourself, despite that same act causing your beloved partner distress or pain, (sometimes BECAUSE you're causing your partner pain), should be seen as unhuman behavior

[@draigan]

rofl i love what she saying about being incredibly polite but also putting someone down at the same time. Utterly brilliant! I am going to try this.

[@weirdowilla1027]

I wonder if the boy/girl ratio was different in early Roman times. Or is the prevailing theory that men (me) have just always been asholes?

[@paulbart3156]

My be just you

[@weirdowilla1027]

Paul Bart type much

[@bealtainecottage]

I have the utmost respect for Mary Beard, her intellectual ability and strong, indomitable personality! Bloody marvellous woman!

[@stevehall9256]

I have lost count of the number of women asking me to hold them down during sex. It works both ways

[@suzettebatista1016]

Thank you 😊 this show is so interesting and educational

[@SkavlanTV]

Thank you so much, Suzette!

[@britbyname3620]

Who is the Gonk that looks like a woman and asks the very “ intellectual “ question about how Romans greeted each other / kissing he’d read !!! Why is he there ????

[@doomguy9049]

She's a friendly gal and maybe a good sport as those things go but she's not someone you should look to want an accurate view of ancient history in my experience.

[@doomguy9049]

@@luanamoraes3578 yes

[@aidenfrost7008]

Luana Moraes appeal to authority fallacy.

[@TheSaba2115]

“There’s no tradition of self deprecation in America”. Well said!

[@lavinder11]

Untrue

[@petergreen2552]

So true. Look at Trump.

[@slappy8941]

So you've never been to America then, have you?

[@slappy8941]

@@petergreen2552 Trump is from New York, so...

[@petergreen2552]

@@slappy8941 So what? New York is one of THE places for comedy. Trump has NO sense of humour well aside from his love of fake tan and that thing he puts on his head

[@pbohearn]

Her citation of the first piece of misogynistic literature in Western civilization with a straight line to Shakespeare’s “Taming of the Shrew.”

[@TheWchurchill4pm]

Is it possible that Homer intended for his readers (I should say, listeners) to view Telemachus’ treatment of his mother as misogynistic? Or if we’re dispensing with anachronistic terms, did he intend for them to sympathize with Penelope in this scene?

[@JAWilsonwhitetidelinedesigns]

A very interesting discussion. Dame Mary Beard continues to be a marvel and always such a pleasure to listen to her learned explanations about classic history, literature and human behavior. Thank you.

[@yuurishibuya4797]

This show puts together some amazing talks, such a civil host! Have you heard of anyone listening to the guest speakers these days?

[@savos020]

unless you are on the side of masculine and that of self responsibilty then he is exposed as fake news

[@godzilla2k26]

Rubin Report?

[@godzilla2k26]

@@savos020 How so?

[@checkyourhead9]

I would love to get her and lucy worsely and rick steves together and talk to them

[@claytonwalter8700]

Rick Steves knows nothing. He has to research everything he does. The other two are PHDs. It's telling that you don't know any high level male academics. You must watch pbs.

[@daffyrose]

Clayton Walter This is interesting. What’s wrong with doing research? What’s wrong with not knowing any high level male PhDs? You can still be interested? I was actually a bit disappointed in Professor Beard. But you know? It doesn’t matter? She’ll be fine! What’s wrong with watching PBS? I like PBS!

[@miriamhavard7621]

Not Rick Steves.........

[@sa-iw4dr]

"I know his Mum; she'll make him take it down", that was awesome.

[@noelpucarua2843]

True, but it kind of destroys her argument about Homer.

[@scouser2010ify]

I like skavlan and I like Matt beard her take on history is so unique and fresh she also just talks like a normal person unlike most historians

[@williamchadwick7948]

Most notorious Roman, Harvius Weinsteinius. As he was raping women, he would call out, "Are you not entertained?" He also had a unique way of fertilizing his olive trees.

[@elcruzer5514]

LOL Good one!!

[@lisaellis2593]

HA!HA!HA!HA!

[@dizzydaydream9647]

Mrs Cormack....I have watched so many lectures, debates and documentaries involving, and presented by you. Roman history has always fascinated me. You are utterly fantastic. I’m always mesmerised by your knowledge and passion. I do maintain that you would be one of the people I would invite around my dinner table, along with Brian Cox, Henry VIII, Louis XVI, and Mr Caesar himself! I think discussion would carry on well into the night 😆 Keep doing what you do best and bring the Romans to life....you do it so so well. Thank you.

[@carolyncolinhogarth8732]

I agree with Dame Mary beard for here comments about how to get along with rude humans...Yes that is true....Often they can become your very best friends....If you ask questions to find out how someone thinks, if is often not only a shared conversation but one of enlightenment on many parts...I agree and enjoyed the conversation and the historical aspect of the Romans...I agree with her about her take on history also...It is one session after another of change...Please convey the gratitude for enlightenment...CDHx1

[@acreymundo]

What a brilliant panel. Love Dame Beard

[@dave9401]

Wow! She is simply wonderful, in the truest sense of the word. 😍

[@thatchannel195]

Hi

[@jeanquirit2009]

Not all men are Prince Andrew, thank you very much

[@blotski]

I'm terribly sorry. I think you must have misunderstood what she said.

[@jeanquirit2009]

@@blotski I'm terribly sorry. I think you must have misunderstood what i meant.

[@morganolfursson2560]

As a kid I always wished i could go back in time to a period and a place when and where animals were not killed and were not eaten or hurt. So, as the son of a historian, theologian and archaeologist father and an anthropo-ethnologist mother i asked them to tell me all they knew about the way animals had been treated throughout history . My mother and father became quite interested in the topic and started asking their friends about it, from zoologists to archaeologists specialized in digging up animals . All they could come up with is that to find a place when animals weren't treated badly by human being, even the proto human beings, i would have to go back to before the apparition of humanoids. Because although some cultures have celebrated some animals, or held them as sacred, not a single one has actually forbade to hurt, kill, eat animals for any reason. Even in Buddhism and Hinduism which always appear so kind and respectful religions or philosophies, animals are sacrificed or killed and eaten. Maybe in an even more hypocritical way than other religions (especially the monotheist 3 major ones which all state that animals are here for us and that we can use them as we please). But the scariest part is that even in places without religion or among people without particular religious beliefs, animals cruelty is everywhere , even more so. So in other words, the way women have been treated in history is simply a mirror of the way human beings treat other living things, human animal or non human animal or else. This is truly in our nature to hurt, damage, kill, destroy, far more than it is to care. We are instinctively destructive. Just look at kids playing and you will see how they enjoy breaking, throwing, fighting, and when you give them something weaker than them, they turn into monsters. It is truly terrifying to know that behind this veil of so called civilization lies our true nature , which is neither benevolent nor pacifist. The youtube comments sections , and social media culture, are often a good example of how people are far more eager to hate than love. It is really depressing to think that no matter how far back i go in human history i will always find cruelty toward animals , and it doesn't make it easy to believe that the future might be somehow better . We are a violent species, the most violent of all, on this planet we believe to be ours. I am absolutely not surprised that women have been treated badly throughout history, just like women have also treated badly creatures that were or are weaker than them. This is just the way we function, us human beings. Although maybe women, due to their nurturing nature are maybe a little (and i mean just a little) less eager to kill or hurt, especially the young and weak creatures, but this is just a theory, because i have witnessed horrendous cruelty done by women to animals, especially when i lived in Asia. Today i am a vet and ethologist and in the two decades of my career , i am yet to have come across any culture which shows complete respect toward animals and nature, all i have seen is destruction and an increasing level of stupidity , especially in so called civilized nations such as Australia which to me today is the epitome of stupidity and cruelty toward animals as a modern nation. We only have to see what they are doing now to cats and camels and other species that THEY brought into the island to get a clear idea of how messed up these people are. And this is why also it is absolutely not surprising to me that Aboriginals where considered as part of the Fauna in australia until 1967 .

[@cherylwilliams667]

Morgan Olfursson I enjoyed reading your post. I agree with you. There is no place on this earth that is safe for animals of any kind. I wish there were. There are some sanctuaries were animals are cared for and not put to sleep but those places are very few. I guess all we can do is take wonderful care of the animals that live under our roof and give them a good life. I know this isn't popular to say but I sometimes feel more devastated when an animal is hurt or killed versus a human.

[@morganolfursson2560]

@@cherylwilliams667 I completely agree with you Cheryl and feel exactly the same. I may feel bad when human kids get hurt, but when adults are, i now feel nothing much compared to how i feel and react when animals around me are mistreated.

[@heather228]

Mary Beard is amazing

[@KT_571]

I absolutely love and respect Mary! What a phenomenal lady!

[@legalvampire8136]

I wish she gave more evidence for what she says about the Romans e.g. not smiling. As far as I know they had no word in Latin for 'smiling' but that does not prove they did not do it. They may just have said 'Gaius looked happy' when we would say 'Gaius was smiling'. Likewise they had no words in Latin for nephews and nieces, but that does not mean they did not have them. They simply referred to them as 'my sister's son' , 'my brother's daughter' etc.

[@meorrrrw4020]

She is less of a historian and more of a storyteller in my eyes... I think she likes to twist history to suit her narrative.

[@rachaeltl]

Yes, thank you indeed. What an interesting woman..!!

[@nigewood4945]

This lady is definitely what one might call 'good copy'. What a fascinating woman.