The Roy Hammer - Air Assist Treadle Hammer kit

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Black Bear Forge

Black Bear Forge

Жыл бұрын

Roy and jessica from Blacksmithing Blanks sent their air powered treadle hammer over for us to try out. Simple but pretty ingenious.
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@ChristCenteredIronworks
@ChristCenteredIronworks Жыл бұрын
Thank you John! I'm very thankful for your support of Jessica and I... I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with in your future videos. Also a quick note: The hammer hits the hardest when the Air assist is supplied with 100-140psi with 150psi being the max out for this cylinder. Some of the Play in the hammer in the back And forth direction can be reduced By tightening up the pivot pin location until it's snug but not enough to create excess friction..
@mikepettengill2706
@mikepettengill2706 Жыл бұрын
I could not find this hammer set up on your site? Am I missing something?
@kellydiver
@kellydiver Жыл бұрын
I’m saving up for one of these. I’m a 60-year-old disabled veteran, and I think it will extend my smithing life by several years. Yes, it seems pricey for some do-it-yerselfers, but Roy put a lot of thought and testing into this and sends it out as a complete kit aimed at those of us on a budget. I, for one, am very appreciative of his approach. (Plus, I believe in paying people for their work.)
@ga5743
@ga5743 Жыл бұрын
Nice of you helping out a fellow blacksmith move his business along. 👍
@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog Жыл бұрын
I first thought, boy what an awkward thing. But then realized a third hand is even MORE awkward. I’d use that thing more than I think I’d realize
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
Once you get comfortable with the something like this it becomes a regular helper in the shop
@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog Жыл бұрын
The cluttered corner of my shop seems to be where I always gravitate, mostly because that is where all these types of awkward (specialized) tools reside :) Just found your channel, you do a great job
@thomasgoodemoot
@thomasgoodemoot Жыл бұрын
Thank you John for the awesome review Roy has definitely put in the man hours designing this product and I know I have put in lots of hours making up these kit for all our wonderful customers
@AtholIronworks
@AtholIronworks Жыл бұрын
Got mine a few days ago without the air assist. I can't wait to set it up.
@wayneheitz8390
@wayneheitz8390 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, have a wonderful week good sir. 👏👏👏🤞🙏
@insanityforge8340
@insanityforge8340 Жыл бұрын
You can tell Roy and Jess it would be a great addition to my shop lol. I even have room for it
@FallenAnvilForge
@FallenAnvilForge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Review, and Thanks to Roy and Jessica for sending this to John so we could see his opinion of the treadle kit.
@frankgaletzka8477
@frankgaletzka8477 Жыл бұрын
Hello John Thank you for this Video. This Hammer is a costeffectiv Option to have a treadelhamner in the Shop. Thank you for supporting this nice Product. Take care Yours Frank Galetzka
@H34L5
@H34L5 Жыл бұрын
John I love all the disclaimers after assembly!! Hahaha
@jimq
@jimq Жыл бұрын
For someone just starting out, or even been at it for a while, and dont sell a lot, to be able to save for a Press or Power Hammer, this seems like a good option to start towards "tooling up."
@ThomasMcRaeCopland
@ThomasMcRaeCopland Жыл бұрын
Hi Blackbear Forge! That is a great Idea!.
@stevenolan7972
@stevenolan7972 Жыл бұрын
The air regulator idea is spot on save a guy a lot of steps!
@AnonYmous-ii4tc
@AnonYmous-ii4tc Жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you for sharing this tool from Christ Centered Ironworks. Props to Roy and Jess!
@stankrieger3598
@stankrieger3598 Жыл бұрын
Like having the 3rd hand in the shop. I love the idea and the maker has a great site. You 2 are my goto people for all my forge needs
@carpetania47
@carpetania47 Жыл бұрын
From the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, once again, tanks for your blacksmith master classes.... Regards...
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome
@carpetania47
@carpetania47 Жыл бұрын
The city where I live Toledo, is famous among other things for foreign possibly the best swords in the world for centuries, many armies in the world including the United States carry Toledo swords, I'm sure you'd like to see how they do it.....
@vandengaaskjolen1821
@vandengaaskjolen1821 5 ай бұрын
Enjoy your beer money. Just getting my shop started and finally got the chance to use your affiliate link.
@robertcutburth4389
@robertcutburth4389 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John good video and review, this would help me a lot being retired and disabled would help us elders a lot, thanks.
@Dominic.Minischetti
@Dominic.Minischetti Жыл бұрын
Man that’s sweet! With some tweaking and maybe even a few mods, I can see that being an extremely useful tool! Thanks for sharing John! 👍🏻
@jerbear7952
@jerbear7952 2 ай бұрын
Man I dont have a specific use for this but I could see using it quite often once it was set up. I don't smith currently but I do have to beat on things more than most normal people
@shadetreeforge
@shadetreeforge Жыл бұрын
Very nice John! It's nice to see what someone else thinks of Roy's products and ideas....
@patshes1951
@patshes1951 Жыл бұрын
Cool hammer.
@GodschildinNC
@GodschildinNC Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing us this, and Roy for designing it. I have been thinking of a moveable/portable treadle hammer w/sledge hammers and the air kit raises the game.
@robertwhitney2232
@robertwhitney2232 Жыл бұрын
Hi John, I can see that there is a lot of fiddling with adjustments to make it work right. Starting with the first hole for the mounting bracket and height of anvil and so on. Glad to see you helping out Roy and Jessica with a review. 👍🔥⚒
@paulharvey3972
@paulharvey3972 Жыл бұрын
I can't find Roy and Jessica link
@robertwhitney2232
@robertwhitney2232 Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, go to Christ Centered Ironworks, they have a lot of good stuff.
@LunchboxNinja
@LunchboxNinja 10 ай бұрын
Shop's looking fantastic!
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 Жыл бұрын
Great Job John, thanks for the honest and comparative review and benefit of your temporary installation and what it could be with a better installation. You did well. See you on the next use. Stay safe and keep up the good work and keep up the fun. Fred.
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@LunchboxNinja
@LunchboxNinja 10 ай бұрын
Always a fantastic source of info, John, thank you! I was so close to trying to build my own, and you've offered some fantastic tips.
@paulorchard7960
@paulorchard7960 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John, nice to get another view on this contraption!😂 As you said a bit of fiddling and tweeking to get it right but anyone should manage that! 👍🇦🇺
@mikepettengill2706
@mikepettengill2706 Жыл бұрын
cool tool Thanks!
@aaronkokesch3593
@aaronkokesch3593 Жыл бұрын
Great review on this product. I am happy you turned me on to his channel and website. He has some very nice pre-cut hook blanks I can't wait to purchase that are at a very reasonable price point
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@armageddontools
@armageddontools Жыл бұрын
Now you will never skip a leg day ! Who needs a gym membership right? Just make sure that you become ambidexterous so that your right side doesnt look like arnold in prime days and left side like a toothpick :) This is simple way i like it alot ,just what i needed :) Simple to make ,only different way i want to do is instead of complex fitting of hande to a steel plate i think i will make a wooden insert for square pipe(40x40mm should do the trick) that will go in and then just make a proper fit for hammer head to go on it i could maybe even weld it since i wont hold it vibrations wont bother me.
@johnvradenburg192
@johnvradenburg192 Жыл бұрын
petty simple design that works for someone who wants start a shop, wish you was taking orders i need another set of those railroad spike spatula and steak flipper so my neighbor will stop stealing mine lol
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 Жыл бұрын
as an option, try James Duncan, Sprinkled Donut Forge, Moscow Texas. KZbin here under his forge name. great young man. blessings! Crawford out.🙏🏻🔥⚒️🧙🏼‍♂️
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 Жыл бұрын
To me it looks like an excellent tool to stop repetitive strain injury or those who suffer with it, to enable them to carry on with their hobby.
@MrJamesjustin
@MrJamesjustin Жыл бұрын
Great review John. Thanks for that.
@DERWALDRUFT
@DERWALDRUFT Жыл бұрын
It can become handy if you align everything after it in the shop but for moving metal seriously in bigger quantity it may be to weak. Besides that, the air compressor will run all day long. But at the end you have to confess that roy did a great job engeneering this version of a treadlehammer for this budget. Greetings!:)
@waynemitchell8254
@waynemitchell8254 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool
@BurntMushroomBlacksmithing
@BurntMushroomBlacksmithing Жыл бұрын
Great stuff John.
@williamemerson1799
@williamemerson1799 Жыл бұрын
Good review but I'd rather put the money towards an inline hammer like you've got.👍🍻
@johnblanton9845
@johnblanton9845 Жыл бұрын
I’m considering fabricating or purchasing a treadle hammer , thanks for the input on Roy”s I’ve recently developed painful blacksmith’s elbow , that 2 lb hammer felt like a 20lb hammer. , therefore couldn’t smith at a recent craft show , just sit at my product table and fight off drowsyness Anyway , looks like this treadle set up is ready to go , save on the guess work
@GeorgiaWoodsmen
@GeorgiaWoodsmen Жыл бұрын
When i get the money i may buy one.
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
I am sure Roy and Jess would appreciate it.
@SchysCraftCo.
@SchysCraftCo. Жыл бұрын
Very nice job Roy and Jess. Very nice video reviewing and putting it to use John. Can’t wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. God bless.
@ArmySoldier1972
@ArmySoldier1972 Жыл бұрын
John, Nice review, your candor is greatly appreciated. Roy and Jess have a nice product set up there. Army
@doylerabjohn3435
@doylerabjohn3435 Жыл бұрын
At first I thought what a awkward tool....After watching the video I thought that interesting tool..... Definitely will be looking forward to seeing the videos of you using it.
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@wookieecantina
@wookieecantina Жыл бұрын
I believe Wile E Coyote purchased this same device from Acme. I need one!
@carltonfaller3986
@carltonfaller3986 Жыл бұрын
Hi John. I'm curious if you or Roy have thought about reversing the air assist. What if you had a VERY heavy hammer and instead of the air forcing the hammer down against the spring, instead of that the hammer falls freely, and the air is used to raise it back up for the next strike. The air wouldn't hold it up, but would bring it up till a trigger catches it. Then the only thing the user is doing is releasing the trigger. The force of the strike could be adjusted by changing the height of the trigger. I haven't figured how much more complex it would be, or how to configure the trigger. Just curious if that's the sort of thing people are thinking about.
@robsonsantosOSO
@robsonsantosOSO Жыл бұрын
I now imagine myself living next to a natural stream and being able to use a water wheel to propel this tool..🤔. Now I'm dreaming 🤩
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
That would be pretty cool
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 Жыл бұрын
great to see your take on this tooling option. it's open honest and well worth the watching! thanks Mr John! always on the way h list, as is CCI channel. shameless plug. Roy and Ms Jess are salt of the earth folks and have tons n tons to offer the community! thanks again Mr John! blessings aboundant Crawford out 🙏🏻🔥⚒️🧙🏼‍♂️
@hoodoo9185
@hoodoo9185 Жыл бұрын
I've been eyeing this kit. It seems like a decent low cost alternative. Great video as usual!
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@threeriversforge1997
@threeriversforge1997 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love CCI's penchant for innovation!
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
That he does.
@shadetreeforge
@shadetreeforge Жыл бұрын
Now let's hope some Chinese scammer doesn't copy this and market this under a fake name! that's happened to several people already!
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740
@dragonstonegemironworkscra4740 Жыл бұрын
​@@shadetreeforge too true
@threeriversforge1997
@threeriversforge1997 Жыл бұрын
@@shadetreeforge The greater threat is from other smiths who see it and think, "Cool, I'll build one next time I'm in the shop!" 🤣
@user-pv1uf4xj3m
@user-pv1uf4xj3m Жыл бұрын
Шлёп нога. Удобное приспособление!
@NeilGraham.I.M.F
@NeilGraham.I.M.F Жыл бұрын
I can see the use for this hammer
@americanfreedom2324
@americanfreedom2324 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a real good idea. I'm probably gonna get one of these kits.
@Moondog-wc4vm
@Moondog-wc4vm Жыл бұрын
I'm in a pasition where I can swing a hammer at the anvil just fine. If I need to beat a piece of metal into submission I'm still capable, despite a disability. What I find is that any leg operated tools range from uncomfortable to downright impossible. Treadle hammers, foot pumps, foot pedals for welders, sewing machines they all are difficult to manage. Even the foot pedal for a power hammer, sensitive as it is makes me question my personal ability to manage the strike with enough precision to accurately shape a piece. Noting the other comments from people with disabilities and those who just find a third hand useful, it makes me think a control system adapted to use by anyone whether disabled or able bodied would be the perfect thing to open up smithing to anyone who wants to do it. I'm not an engineer so I'm sadly inadequate to even attempt that challenge, but someone out there must be that one genius who can design tools to aid the disabled smith. If you are that person, please use your knowledge and skill and hopefully make enough profit from the patents to put your children and granchildren through college!
@deryiousbarzee627
@deryiousbarzee627 Жыл бұрын
Good morning
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
Morning
@KingLoopie1
@KingLoopie1 Жыл бұрын
Looks ideal for the guy that doesn't have the fabrication capabilities to make those brackets!
@calebmcintosh01
@calebmcintosh01 Жыл бұрын
Good morning. Thanks for the video. I wonder if that air option could be adapted to your treadle hammer?
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
A similar system would work, but it would need to be a much larger cylinder.
@prepertruckin8525
@prepertruckin8525 Жыл бұрын
⭕️ for proper installation, some modification is required...
@fredfchopin
@fredfchopin Жыл бұрын
How big is your air compressor and how long can you use the air assist before the compressor kicks on? I've been tempted to get one but I suspect that my old 21 gallon compressor probably won't be up to the task.
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
While my air compressor is quite large, this tool doesn't need a big compressor. The air system only needs air in single bursts when you step on the peddle for a single hammer blow. It would be worth asking Roy what he's seen for air consumption
@thomasgoodemoot
@thomasgoodemoot Жыл бұрын
Roy did a live demo on it he was able to run it off a small harbor freight air compressor but it did run nonstop but that was only a Three gallon if I remember right
@alexmair3613
@alexmair3613 Жыл бұрын
Can it cut my overgrown toe callous?
@jamesball7322
@jamesball7322 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me it worked better without the air cylinder,80psi it could’ve been harder with a better cylinder
@jerbear7952
@jerbear7952 2 ай бұрын
These two channels are conspiring with...big treddle hammer? I don't know if I trust them. We should probably keep watching to keep an eye on them.
@chesthairascot3743
@chesthairascot3743 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think that was invented by a drummer that discovered they needed to forge something.
@jackburton9214
@jackburton9214 Жыл бұрын
No offense to anyone but $700 seems kind of steep for some cut brackets and what I assume is a Chinese air setup.
@paulharvey3972
@paulharvey3972 Жыл бұрын
I think I am blind where is the link 🤔
@BlackBearForge
@BlackBearForge Жыл бұрын
In the video description. But here it is again. kzbin.info?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0tESzMwbVpoRkl6QVlDUjcwTlpoUEoxeDFiQXxBQ3Jtc0ttRkxOU0JYVzItNVBucHFNUmNVUkpWT3VYZ0lxWVItUlR1NEFVWVFYWWVvSW9mbklONlI0THF0T3J2MHc2M01SN0MtcWJQYnRURVFGc0dIT19UaGxwdHl3QTM2eGVCeUFyX1hRRjZGdkRINWl6V0RBTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.christcenteredironworks.com%2Fstore%2Fc34%2Fblacksmith_tooling&v=K-xHhkPJfMs
@ohiovalleyforge5383
@ohiovalleyforge5383 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to have one of those for my free veterans knife making workshops, it might let me add a guy to each one
@RVsbladesnthangs
@RVsbladesnthangs Жыл бұрын
$700😳 No Thanks!
@jois6499
@jois6499 Жыл бұрын
this thing cost too much. i build this thing out of scrap. your treadlhammer is much better !
@geraldpuglnig6445
@geraldpuglnig6445 Жыл бұрын
NO NO NO
@benmaillet7326
@benmaillet7326 Жыл бұрын
Remember, this is a temporary setup! Lol
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