The Royal Scot Driver's eye view preview

[@HenrysAdventures]

Very good! I miss the days of proper trains on the West Coast Main Line!

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

I know you do henry

[@Strathclyder]

390s are proper trains haha

[@HenrysAdventures]

@@Strathclyder "Proper trains" is a nickname for loco hauled trains as loco hauled trains are so much more popular.

[@class87fan54]

Those were the days: 86's, 87's & 90's on the expresses, 310's & 321's on the semi-fasts, British locomotives on the freights and sensible liveries all round. A complete contrast to today. Incidentally, I believe the 87 that the journey was filmed aboard was No 87011 The Black Prince, while 87002 Royal Sovereign was seen departing Euston, 87013 John O'Gaunt was seen at Preston & Carlisle, and 87027 Wolf of Badenoch was seen at Glasgow.

[@flippop101]

How I fondly remember British Railways! Superb! Many thanks from Germany!

[@karlr42]

Love the 86/87's, so full of character.

[@sebastianfrost9969]

As video125co says the video was eventually having 2 released the first one released 25th December 1995 that was credited to Dean Martin and the 2nd part released on 21st January 1996 and was Credited to London Boys originally based in Hamburg They both died in a car accident running over the Austrian Alps where a driver couldn't see that another vehicle was ahead and they crashed, also the Swiss driver's also died in the crash

[@video125com]

No you are wrong. We had two different drivers who changed at Preston. We also had to have two different traction Inspectors too. No drivers ever go from Euston to Glasgow. Even in steam days with non-stop runs, the footplate crew changed half way while on the move (by walking through a tender with a tiny corridor). If our trailer gives the wrong impression, that is due to editing.

[@video125com]

This is where filming continuity is always a problem with dates. The entire cab filming was done in one hit in 1995 due to the impracticality of derigging the myriad of filming equipment at an ordinary station stop (Preston) as well as effecting a crew change (Inspectors and Drivers). The trackside shots would have been filmed in 1996 though in fact due to bad weather on the original cab shoot, some, nearer Glasgow, was filmed in 1996. See if you can spot the join.

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

I can see that because ive watched it already

[@cameronyoungcg9270]

So is that why on my VHS copy, part 1 is ©1995 and part 2 is ©1996?

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

as of today 87002 is the only 87 loco still in Britain the others of her class have disappeared to Bulgaria

[@pook2830]

@@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Not true. 87001 Royal Scot is in the National Railway Museum. There were only 21 exported. 12 were scrapped.

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

David Gregory well David 87002 is the only ac loco on the mainline all the others are in Bulgaria and 87001 is in the NRM museum

[@saltspringrailway3683]

Our first house in Rugby was just behind the signal box on the left. Both the house and the signal box now demolished also the vast station roof.

[@CBeaumontHIGTFY]

To think that when this was filmed, the 1972 stock on the Bakerloo line, seen near the start of the preview - was already 23 years old. It's now 41. Ditto for the 1938's now on the IOW. 57 years old in 95. I was 3 years old, and had probably just started speaking.

[@RealStarsailor]

Can you give me the link for this music called Formation in the intro.

[@video125com]

Yes, both Royal Scot 1 and 2 are on one dvd these days and cost £20 (originally on VHS it was £39.90)!

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

yeah it was filmed in 1995 and 1996 in two parts compared to the northern line both routes are filmed in 1999

[@alicanharryreilly8353]

Locomotive Services Group have got a fleet of one of the Class 82 DVT,Class 86,Class 87 & Class 90 in Preservation Every Friday at London Euston in its Intercity Swallow Livery on a Charter Service Between London Euston & Manchester Piccadilly & Crewe

[@ClassicProgrammes2868]

And that didn't last very long before it got binned, far too expensive to travel on and only ran on one day a week.

[@Glenn1967ful]

It all looks so old fashioned now as the Class 87s have all been withdrawn and the EMUs and DMUs will have been finished as well.

[@MarkMaddyGriff]

I do like the Theme tune at the begining, is that listed on your Video125 Theme CD?

[@joeyed96]

It’s not sadly, but the song is called “Formation” by Gary Scargill and Peter Oldroyd

[@swtrains1499]

Rugby looks quite weird compared to what it looks like today!

[@EM-yk1dw]

Comfortable mk3s and Class 87s with years of life left in them needlessly replaced with tilting rabbit hutches that stink of toilets, and less room than my cat basket. All for the sake of a 15 mph increase in line speed.

[@bowlerstuff9589]

when the 390s were introduced they were ment to go at 140 But couldnt

[@cameronirvine37703]

General Motors but also less breakdowns and a more frequent service

[@FerrarifanOls95]

Jo Bowler That’s probably because of speed limits

[@fatwalletboy2]

Doesnt bode well for HS2 where all the marketing men are saying itll be 220mph.....yeah right. I bet itll be 186mph tops.

[@Glenn1967ful]

@@cameronirvine37703 The WCML was becoming notorious for delays and breakdowns by the nineties as the trains were worn out. The Pendolinos have proven to be mostly reliable and services to Glasgow are far more frequent, but have poorer comfort and catering if you are in standard class.

[@fatwalletboy2]

Thought she only had 2 stops not a call at Oxenholme....

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

As of today the pendolinos are now the new trains to run the west coast mainline and one of them was trying to break the world record from London to Glasgow but missed it by 22 seconds

[@traincontractor]

Is this still for sale?

[@thesouthwesttrainspotter]

Like the 3 tone horn

[@RedArrow73]

Tha Glesga Tren.

[@soundseeker63]

Thank god this was filmed back when it was all loco haulage! The view out of a pendo is terrible by comparison and the tilt can get a little nauseating.

[@Glenn1967ful]

I took the Royal Scot from Carlisle to London in 1988 and the locomotive broke down at Preston. A 3 h 50 m journey took 5 hours. At least the last few times I've taken the Pendolino down to London it was always punctual and the 3h15m journey was done on time. Mind you the seats were like a small hatchback and the view out of the window wasn't as good as the old days.

[@DowntheJunction]

Stafford doesn't appear, video jumps from Rugby to Basford Hall Jcn

[@ClassicProgrammes2868]

The DVD will show passing through Stafford, they couldn't show all of it as it would take hours.

[@karlr42]

Wow, just realised you had the same driver all the way from Euston to Glasgow- that's some route knowledge he must have!

[@geoffclemo7328]

Geoffrail.Used to be Crewe,Plat 4.mid road

[@FerrarifanOls95]

I actually saw myself that it was actually a different driver. No one can manage a very long journey such as London to Scotland. They may fall asleep at the controls quite easily

[@MrGriser]

Wasn't the first part filmed in 1995 and the other in 1996?

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

Yes mate

[@Gmekz]

Song name?

[@karlr42]

Ah, sorry, my mistake, that makes a lot more sense alrightl

[@woodlandsteve]

Preston station, you forget how much shit and bog paper was on the track then

[@johnwilletts4243]

K! Huge

[@saltspringrailway3683]

Our first house in Rugby was just behind the signal box on the left. Both the house and the signal box now demolished also the vast station roof.