The Ruling on Saying Allah is Everywhere | Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan

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[@fahimaabdullah8084]

السلامعليكمورحمةاللهوبركاته Yes! above the 7th Heaven. Yes, He rose over His Throne in a manner befitting to His Majesy and Perfection. May Allah reward you, Sheikh and preserve you always in goodness...Aameen

[@augxman]

Allahs presence is above the heavens. But allah watches over and is aware of all and every place. the bad places, the good places, the hidden and the unknown places.

[@YourichM]

Jazakum Allah khayran

[@anoniem012]

True!✅ Allah is above all things!

[@Aam10149]

surah ali-imran, ayat 7 [3:7]

[@j2shoes288]

The mute slave girl , pointed to the sky, as oppose to the idols . So, I'm with the scholars who say this doesn't mean she was indicating Allah is above the throne. The prophet (as) saw that she didn't point to the idols, hence, she was a Muslim. I'm not saying , therefore, Allah is everywhere, rather, scholars who misread this specific hadith, seem to lack the ability to discern correctly. And Allah knows best.

[@albo1091]

Who said that she was mute

[@1eV]

😂

[@Dont-worry1618]

Buddy what do u mean idols and she was mute. Shut up😂

[@Voixdurappel]

L’Imam An-Nawawiyy explique le ḥadīth al-Jâriyah (ḥadīth de la femme esclave) بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيم

[@abdullahassaffah]

Imam Abu Hanifah said: "And He has a hand and a face and dhaat (essence), as Allah mentions in the Qur'an. So whatever Allah mentioned in the Qur'an in regards to the face and the hand and the essence, then these are His Attributes without inquiry into their modality (bilaa kayf). And it is not to be said that His hand is His power, or His ni'mah (bounty), because it is nullification of the Attribute, and it is the statement of the people of al-Qadar and al-I'tizaal.” (al-Fiqhu'l-Akbar, 302) Imam Abu Hanifah said: "The hand of Allah is above their hands, not like the hands of His creations." (al-Fiqhu'l-Absat, 56)

[@Voixdurappel]

Dans son commentaire du ṣaḥīḥ Mouslim, lors de l’explication du ḥadīth Al-Jâriyah (le ḥadīth de la femme esclave) l’Imam An-Nawawiyy a dit : ce qui signifie: « Au sujet de sa parole (c’est-à-dire la parole du Prophète), ṣalla l-Lâhou `alayhi wa sallam « ayna l-Lâh ? » Elle répondit « fi s-samâ’ » Il lui demanda : « Qui suis-je ? » Elle répondit « Tu es le Messager de Allāh ». Il dit alors : Libère-là car elle est certes croyante ». Ce ḥadîth fait partie des ḥadîth qui traitent des attributs de Allāh. Il y a, au sujet de ces ḥadîth, deux voies principales (madh-hab) au sujet de la croyance, que nous avons déjà clarifiées de nombreuses fois dans le livre au sujet de la Foi (c’est-à-dire le chapitre de la Foi dans le recueil de ḥadīth de Mouslim) ; Et l’une de ces voies est : y croire sans plonger dans [le détail] du sens avec la croyance que rien n’est tel que Allāh, et [la croyance] qu‘Il est exempt de ce qui advient aux créatures. La deuxième voie, c’est l’interpréter selon ce qui est digne de Lui. Ceux qui ont choisi cette position ont dit : ici le sens était de la tester, afin de voir: est-ce qu’elle était une monothéiste, qui croit effectivement que le Seigneur, Celui qui domine toute chose, Celui qui fait ce qu’Il veut, c’est Allāh Lui seul, et qu’Il est Celui pour lequel ceux qui font des invocations se dirigent vers le ciel, de la même façon que celui qui prie se dirige vers la Ka`bah; et ce n’est pas parce qu’Il serait circonscrit dans le ciel, de même qu’Il n’est pas circonscrit dans la direction de la Ka`bah, mais il en est ainsi parce que le ciel est la Qiblah de ceux qui font des invocations, et la Ka`bah est la direction de ceux qui prient. Ou bien elle faisait partie des adorateurs d’idoles, qui adorent les statues qui se trouvent tout autour d’eux, et lorsqu’elle a dit « fi s-samā' », il a été su qu’elle était une monothéiste, et qu’elle ne faisait pas partie des adorateurs d’idoles ; al-Qāḍī `Iyâḍ (grand savant malikite) a dit : « قال القاضي عياض : لا خلاف بين المسلمين قاطبة فقيههم ومحدثهم ومتكلمهم ونظارهم ومقلدهم أن الظواهر الواردة بذكر الله تعالى في السماء كقوله تعالى {أَأَمِنتُم مَّن فِي السَّمَاءِ أَن يَخْسِفَ بِكُمُ الْأَرْ‌ضَ} ونحوه ليست على ظاهرها بل متأولة عند جميعهم » Ce qui signifie : « il n’y a pas de divergence chez la totalité des musulmans que ce soit leurs savants spécialistes de jurisprudence, des fondements de la religion de la rhétorique ou les gens du commun, que les textes du Qour’ân et du ḥadīth où il est cité Allāh fi s-samâ’ ne sont pas prises dans le sens apparent mais ils sont interprétés [par ce qui est digne de Allāh] selon tous ». Informations utiles : - L’imam, le ḥāfiḍh Abou Zakariyyā Mouḥyi d-Dīn Yaḥyā Ibnou Charaf An-Nawawiyy est un savant de référence. Il est né en 631 et il est décédé en 676 de l’hégire (raḥimahou l-Lâh), c’est-à-dire il y a plus de 750 ans. Il est du madh-hab (École de jurisprudence) de l’Imam Ach-Châfi`iyy. Son charḥ (commentaire) du ṣaḥīḥ Mouslim est incontournable. - Ici il explique le ḥadīth connu sous le nom de ḥadīth al-Jâriyah (le ḥadīth de la femme esclave), et il dit qu’au sujet de ce genre de ḥadīth (c’est à dire les ḥadīth équivoque -moutachābih-) il y a deux méthodologies correctes: La première : croire en ce qui est révélé dans les Textes sans rentrer dans les détails du sens, tout en exemptant Allāh de toute ressemblance et caractéristique des créatures (c’est ce qu’on appelle l’interprétation globale). La seconde : Interpréter selon un sens digne d’être attribué à Allāh qui est valable selon la langue arabe (c’est ce qu’on appelle l’interprétation détaillée). Ces deux voies qui sont toutes les deux correctes ont en commun de ne pas prendre le sens apparent et d'exempter Allāh de toute ressemblance avec les créatures. - Lors de son explication, il dit très bien que ce ḥadīth ne signifie pas que Allāh est dans le ciel. Al-Qāḍī `iyâḍ rapporte l’unanimité sur le fait que la parole Allāh fi s-samâ' n’est pas à prendre au sens apparent - Le Qāḍī `iyâḍ -juge- Abou l-Faḍl `Iyâḍ ibnou Moūçā ibnou `Iyâḍ al-Yaḥṣoubiyy connu sous le nom de al-Qāḍī `iyâḍ, est un grand savant Malikite. Il est né en 476 et il est décédé en 544 de l’Hégire (raḥimahou l-Lâh) c’est-à-dire il y a plus de 950 ans. - Ici, il rapporte l’unanimité sur le fait que les versets du Qour’ân et les ḥadīth où il est cité « Allāh fi s-samā' » ne doivent pas être pris selon le sens apparent, mais qu’ils doivent être interprété par ce qui est digne de Allāh. - Le ḥadīth de la femme esclave (ḥadīth al-jâriyah) dans lequel il est dit « fi s-samâ' » et le verset {'a-'amintoum man fi s-samâ'} [sôurat Al-Moulk] ne doivent donc pas être pris dans leur sens apparent selon l’unanimité

[@JumpaKage]

The one who say: “I dont know if Allah ﷻ is in the sky or on earth” this person is a disbeliever!

[@Gog3453]

Noooo. Such a person DOSNT KNOW 😔

[@JumpaKage]

@@Gog3453 it shows how important it is for us not to believe that Allah ﷻ is in a “place” because place is a creation, he is not confined by his own creation.

[@Gog3453]

@@JumpaKage but to charge a person with disbelief because they declare (they don’t know)is a bit much

[@JumpaKage]

@@Gog3453 its not my statement brother: ’Know that al-Qarafi and others have narrated from Imam Shafi’i, Malik, Ahmad & Abu Hanifa (ra), that those who say [about allah] that he is in a direction or that He has a body, have committed blasphemy (al qaaíleen bi jihat wa tajsim), and they [i.e. these scholars] were right in saying so.’’[Ibn Hajar al-Haytami (Shafi’I Mujtahid), Al Minhaj al Qawim, p.224]

[@Gog3453]

@@JumpaKage I agree. But to charge a person with disbelief because they have declared(I don’t know)is a bit much (I’m shafii/ashari)

[@Gog3453]

Allah exists beyond the realm of time and space

[@proudirish_man6552]

Fatir 35:10 مَن كَانَ يُرِيدُ ٱلْعِزَّةَ فَلِلَّهِ ٱلْعِزَّةُ جَمِيعًاۚ إِلَيْهِ يَصْعَدُ ٱلْكَلِمُ ٱلطَّيِّبُ وَٱلْعَمَلُ ٱلصَّٰلِحُ يَرْفَعُهُۥۚ وَٱلَّذِينَ يَمْكُرُونَ ٱلسَّيِّـَٔاتِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌۖ وَمَكْرُ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ هُوَ يَبُورُ Whoever desires honor [through power] - then to Allah belongs all honor. To Him ascends good speech, and righteous work raises it. But they who plot evil deeds will have a severe punishment, and the plotting of those - it will perish. As-Sajdah 32:5 يُدَبِّرُ ٱلْأَمْرَ مِنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ إِلَى ٱلْأَرْضِ ثُمَّ يَعْرُجُ إِلَيْهِ فِى يَوْمٍ كَانَ مِقْدَارُهُۥٓ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍ مِّمَّا تَعُدُّونَ He arranges [each] matter from the heaven to the earth; then it will ascend to Him in a Day, the extent of which is a thousand years of those which you count. As-Sajdah 32:4 ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِى سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ ٱسْتَوَىٰ عَلَى ٱلْعَرْشِۖ مَا لَكُم مِّن دُونِهِۦ مِن وَلِىٍّ وَلَا شَفِيعٍۚ أَفَلَا تَتَذَكَّرُونَ It is Allah who created the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them in six days; then He established Himself above the Throne. You have not besides Him any protector or any intercessor; so will you not be reminded? The evidences of the Qur'an and the sunnah prove Allah is above the Throne furthermore the salaf the first 3 generations AGREED upon this and asking how is a BIDAH as imam malik رحمه الله said. If I said a clock has a face and two hands and you've never seen a clock before but you know how a human has a face and a hand you can't start trying to imagine the clock's face and hands and that's between a creation and a creation... so how then can you come with your own thoughts and say "well this means this so it must mean this" with regards to where Allah is and those people who deny the names and attributes of Allah and imagining the كَيْف the "how" which is the error Ibn Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Reflect deeply upon the creation, but do not reflect upon the essence of the Creator. Verily, His essence cannot be known other than to believe in it.” DO NOT ASK HOW DO NOT IMAGINE HOW DO NOT COMPARE IT TO THE CREATION. Just SUBMIT TO THE EVIDENCES

[@Gog3453]

@@proudirish_man6552 like I said. Allah exists beyond the realm of time and space

[@Gog3453]

@@proudirish_man6552 You just need to stay away from Wahhabi translators

[@beinghumble]

Why does salafis reject the notion that Allah is beyond the realm of time and space since he is the creator of time and space? That's because salafis want Allah to be in a direction and that direction is literally above which is absurd. Allah being above is a matter of prestige, not a matter of position.

[@Gog3453]

@@beinghumble because they reject the minhaj (Islam Iman and Ihsan) of the Salaf. There minhaj is tawheed according to the understanding of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab

[@tayroc5596]

Narrated Mu'awiyah b. al-Hakam al-Sulami: I said: Messenger of Allah, I have a slave girl whom I slapped. This grieved the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). I said to him: Should I not emancipate her? He said: Bring her to me. He said: Then I brought her. He asked: Where is Allah ? She replied: In the heaven. He said: Who am I ? She replied: You are the Messenger of Allah. He said: Emancipate her, she is a believer. Sunan Abi Dawud 3282 Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani)

[@wasiqhussain7712]

can someone tell me that is it a general ruling or on an individual basis?

[@AbuNooh2]

Meaning?

[@wasiqhussain7712]

@@AbuNooh2 does this ruling apply to masses in general or anyone who tells me ALLAH is everywhere i should instantly believe that he is a kafir in my heart

[@AbuNooh2]

@@wasiqhussain7712 general, if you provide the evidences and they keep on rejecting it and still stay upon this, then they are, and الله knows best, kaafir والعياذ بالله. But الله أعلم the issue of takfir is complicated but based upon what the shaykh stated here, if the proof comes to him and he rejects it, then he is kaafir since he is ejecting allaah’s ayaat and possibly this will lead to wahd Al wujood. Making no distinction between الله and the creation الله أعلم

[@wasiqhussain7712]

@@AbuNooh2 thanks brother. I got what you meant

[@AbuNooh2]

@@wasiqhussain7712 بارك الله فيك

[@umarmuktar5615]

Where is the reference of the hadith please?

[@raisetheflagoftawheed]

Mua’wiyah ibn al-Hakam reported: I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have a servant-girl whom I slapped.” That upset the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said to him, “Shall I emancipate her?” The Prophet said, “Bring her to me.” Then, she was brought and the Prophet said, “Where is Allah?” She said, “In heaven.” The Prophet said, “Who am I?” She said, “You are the Messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said, “Free her, for she is a believer.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 537 / Sunan Abu Dawud 3282 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ الْحَكَمِ السُّلَمِيِّ قَالَ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ جَارِيَةٌ لِي صَكَكْتُهَا صَكَّةً فَعَظَّمَ ذَلِكَ عَلَيَّ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَقُلْتُ أَفَلَا أُعْتِقُهَا قَالَ ائْتِنِي بِهَا قَالَ فَجِئْتُ بِهَا قَالَ أَيْنَ اللَّهُ قَالَتْ فِي السَّمَاءِ قَالَ مَنْ أَنَا قَالَتْ أَنْتَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ قَالَ أَعْتِقْهَا فَإِنَّهَا مُؤْمِنَةٌ 537 صحيح مسلم كتاب المساجد ومواضع الصلاة باب تحريم الكلام في الصلاة ونسخ ما كان من إباحته

[@ReturningBackToAl-Haqq]

It is in the Quran and Hadeeth, Surah At Taha Ayah 5, Surah As Sajdah Ayah 4 and many more

[@faiyazkhan5970]

Sunan Abi Dawud, no. 3282: sahih according to al-Albani.

[@cornerbarbershop1n]

@@raisetheflagoftawheed This hadith is weak. it's weak it's weak. And even if it wasn't, fe sama means as in the highest status and not in place because Allah exists without a place because he created place, and the creator of place Allah does not need space.

[@Halal_Dan]

Allah exists above the Heavens as mentioned, don't be fooled by Asharis who like to twist words from the Quran and Sunnah. @@cornerbarbershop1n

[@user-ov2rc9vn9c]

Where my ancestry is from this is considered a pre Islamic polytheistic belief and most people who believe this use intercessors and worship jinn because they believe Allah is too distant and high to be approached. As if he is a person stuck and trapped on a very high building. It’s an odd interpretation of a literal truth. Why would “the all hearing one” not be everywhere? That would defeat the purpose of prayer and prostration to the literal most high

[@al-binaapublishing]

This is because your view of Allah is merely based on your intellect and not a combination of all the texts of Quran and sunnah. But to answer your question Allahs Hearing and Knowledge is in every place while still affirming that He rose over the Throne and that He is above His creation as He states about Himself. But if we were to use our intellects wouldn't it be possible for Allah to be above the heavens and still hear and know all things? Why would it necessitate Him being everywhere in His essence while He is the God of His creation?

[@user-ov2rc9vn9c]

@@al-binaapublishing It would be possible, which is exactly what my comment was implying. So it’s not only a possibility as you agnostically proclaim it to be But a fact and accurate characteristic. Being both the transcendent one and the most high isn’t a contradiction but possible is an understatement But Salafis don’t believe that. They believe Allah is constrained and distant from all of humanity in an atheistic pre-islamicism sense that leads to jinn worship and polytheism

[@user-ov2rc9vn9c]

@@al-binaapublishing Omnipresence is not pantheism or Hinduism if that is what you are implying but the polar opposite is some weird form of paganism.

[@muhammadsalafiahlulhadith]

*_It is FARD/obligatory upon The True Muslim to affirm the Asma/Names & Sifat/Attributes of Allah, without committing:1️⃣Tahreef:To attach figurative & metaphorical meanings to the attributes of Allah, while denying the apparent meaning of the attribute2️⃣Ta'teel:Leaving & vacating🔥Negation/Denial of His Attributes & denial of His Self & Being. Denial of the real meaning proved by the Quran & Sunnah🔥Tahreef includes Tateel but Ta'teel does not include Tahreef🔥There are 2 types of Tateel:❌️1)Absolute Tateel: Which the Jahamiyyah committed:Denying all attributes of Allah❌️2)Partial Tateel:Which the Ash’ariyya & maturidiyya commit:Denying all attributes of Allah by Tahreef & affirming only 7 (Ashariyah) & 8 (Maturidiyah) attributes of Allah3️⃣Takyeef:To have faith that the Attributes of Allah are such & such or to put questions as to the state of His Attributes. The term "beghair Takyeef' means that the AhlusSunnah deny having knowledge of Allah's condition as Allah alone knows the state of His Self & His Attributes4️⃣Tamtheel: To have faith that the Attributes of Allah are like the Attributes of His creatures5️⃣Tafweed: To have faith that it’s not the apparent meaning which is meant but only Allah alone knows the meanings of the attributes6️⃣Tajseem:To have faith that Allah has a body. (We as AhlusSunnah neither affirm nor negate the attribute of body, since nothing has come in Quran & Sunnah concerning it & Aqeeda is a matter purely based on Revelation/Wahi as mentioned by Shaykh IbnUthaymeen RAHIMAHULLAH & Shaykhul Islam IbnTaymiyyah RAHIMAHULLAH✅So we do NOT affirm that He has a body while affirming his attributes). The Salaf understood the meanings of the passages of the Quran & the Sunnah & proved these meanings in the favour of Allah. However they would submit the knowledge of the reality (how of the attribute) To Allah. Imam Malik RAHIMAHULLAH was asked about the state of Istawa (Rising Above) of Allah on the Throne, he said Istawa is known but ‘how’ He ascended is unknown. The code of conduct of the AhlusSunnah wal Jamah is as the clear Quran’s verse:“There is nothing like Him.”-Quran (112:4)✔️The correct Aqeeda therefore, is NOT that the Attributes are completely denied as is the way of the Mutazila🔥(A Deviant sect), NOR is it to try to prove them completely as is the way of the Mumathila🔥(Another deviant sect✏Rather the true Aqeeda is to make an affirmation of the Attributes without similitudes/likeness✅SALAFIYYAH✅️_* *Breaking down DEVIANT AQEEDAH OF SUFI/deobandis/asharis/matureedis🛐❌1️⃣They claim to follow imam AbuHanifa infact they follow him only in fiqhi issues, so they can fight with us that fold hands below navel or dont do Raful-Yadayen2️⃣The aqeedah of sufi/ashari/maturidi/deobandi is of sufi🔥WAllahu Alam from where they got this Shirk belief🔥Their aqeedah is of Mohammad bin Mohammad matrudi🔥If you know that matrudi is the fiqh who are wrong in the tawheed asma-wa-siffat of Allah.. They don't believe in every names of Allah, holding on only 7-8🔥They were wrong before & they're still wrong❌3️⃣Whilst in performing deeds they follow Sufi's 4 sub categories qadiri→chishti→naqshabandi→suharwardi👎🏻They're undercover Sufi🛐❌4️⃣SUFI/ASHARI/MATUREEDI/Deobandi claim that they follow 4 imams, but they follow imam matrudi in aqeedah & in fiqh they follow imam AbuHanifa, they leave 3 Imams as if they never existed!*_ *_WHERE IS ALLAH⁉️ImamAbuHanifah☝🏻AbuMutiAlBalkhi reported:I asked Imam AbuHanifah about a person who says:I do NOT know whether my Rab (Allah) is above the heavens or on earth⁉️AbuHanifah said:A person who makes such a statement becomes an apostate because Allah, the Exalted says:The Merciful has ascended above THE ARSH & THE ARSH OF ALLAH IS ABOVE HIS HEAVENS🔥I ALSO ASKED ABUHANIFAH🔥What if such a person admits, Allah is above His Arsh BUT EXCLAIMS:I do not know whether His Arsh is above the heavens or on earth‼️AbuHanifah responded🗣If he denies that the Arsh is above the heavens, he is an apostate‼️If the person apostatizes by saying that he did not know where is the ARSH of Allah, then by right a person who denies the Loftiness of Allah altogether is definitely worse than an apostate🔥ImamMalik🔥Abdullah binNafi reported:MalikBinAnas said:ALLAH IS ABOVE THE HEAVENS BUT HIS KNOWLEDGE encompasses everything. NOTHING ESCAPES HIS KNOWLEDGE🔥ImamShafi said:THE CREED which I hold is the same creed the MUSLIMS BEFORE me were holding, namely, the Testimony of Faith:There is no god worthy of being worshipped except Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah & that Allah is ABOVE HIS ARSH, above the heavens. He descends to the lowest heaven whenever He wishes📚ImamBinKhuzaimah a SHAFI himself said:Whoever DOES NOT BELIEVE that Allah is above His ARSH☝🏻Above His 7 HEAVENS & THAT HE IS SEPARATE from His creatures, is a KAFIR🔥Such person must be ordered to repent & disavow his belief or else he must be beheaded and thrown on a garbage dump so that neither Ahlul-Qiblah nor Ahludth-dthimmah be annoyed by the foul odour of his carcass🔥AbuBakr MuhammadatTamimi, a Shafi'ite imam of Naisabur said:"I do not pray behind a person who denies the attributes of Allah & does not recognise that Allah is above His Arsh🔥ImamAhmad🔥He was asked: Is Allah above His Arsh, above the 7th heaven, separate from His creatures, & is His knowledge & power encompassing everything everywhere⁉️He replied:'Certainly, He is above His Arsh & NOTHING escapes His knowledge. All of the above show that the entire Muslim ummah, in the past & present, is in unison regarding the belief in the Loftiness & SUPREMACY OF ALLAH THE EXALTED_*