The Sabotaged F150 wants more money, Cam Phasers it is

[@AI-oh5oy]

I appreciate the way you do fixing. Replacing even chains with cam phasers.

[@bearing_aficionado]

Those phasers look a hell of a lot better than the old ones.

[@Shouse-life]

Hopefully they're better, Motor sounds perfect now

[@DavidMarr-z3r]

I paid somebody else to do my 2019. Expensive. Good video keep them coming.

[@ryzen397]

how much was it?

[@Shouse-life]

I heard a shop will get ya for $3400 to do them. Thats why I did them myself. took 8 hours and I wasn't rushing. I saved $2400. So I paid myself $300 an hour lol

[@ryzen397]

@@Shouse-life lol

[@jimmyhorton8297]

When I took mine to my local dealership for the replacement, the mechanic told me they do the same thing they do for transmission rebuilds, cab off. They just lay a wooden pallet across the frame and put all the parts on it. I had them replace the serpentine belts on my 2019 while they were in there, my truck had about 87,000 on the original belts. From the looks of things, I’m glad mine was under warranty. Glad everything worked out with your title, someone will get a well sorted truck.

[@Shouse-life]

Sounds like a lot of work pulling the cab, Especially when i don't have a hoist. It definitely tore me up leaning over the front end all day. I eventually just climbed in the engine compartment and stood on the frame to put the top end back together. Worked out good though

[@jimmyhorton8297]

@ , yeah I have no idea how easy or difficult it is to pull the cab on those trucks. The dealership I used said they do at least 12 to 15 a month. I’m sure that mechanic has it down to a science.

[@DavidDave62]

I’ve done two of these cam phaser jobs on the 3.5 ecoboost. The first one took me about 10 hours. The second time I did it in about 7 hours. I bought the parts through Fairway Ford in Canton Ohio and they cost around $800. That was one year ago though. I hope I never have to do another one.

[@Shouse-life]

I agree. my chest still hurts from laying over the radiator support.lol

[@burtbacarach5034]

Better you than me!I'll keep my 2011 Avalanche,told the Mrs she could bury me in it.

[@Shouse-life]

That truck would be a rotted out mess around this neck of the woods. My trucks a 13. I store it in the winter so it stays clean. Plan on keeping it forever. These newer vehicles are throw aways.

[@raybeattie985]

I ran a couple cycles of sea foam through my 2016..quieted right down..5.0 gen 2

[@daveerrington5166]

Also, a melling high output oil pump should be added

[@charlesmoyer5321]

Good info, nice job.

[@Shouse-life]

Thanks Charles

[@billhe372]

I have a 2023 F150 with the 3.5 Powerboost that I purchased new 1 year ago, I am definitely thinking of getting a Ford extended warranty after seeing the low miles these cam phasers went bad. My truck only has 8000 miles and has needed a few repairs already and is in the shop now with transmission issues.

[@Shouse-life]

I’m not sure the cam phaser issue is that common on the new ones. All the parts I installed were for the 20 and newer. But the trans I get. The 10 speeds cool but it seams they all do stupid things time to time. Warranty might be a good idea.

[@KyleEbright]

Glad you're using updated OEM parts. Aftermarket timing parts fail way too soon on the fords...

[@Shouse-life]

Yep! I always go factory whenever possible. Not worth the chance of a premature failure.

[@dustyroads834]

Bad wheel bearing and cam phasers at only 50K miles Just off of warranty. Yeah. Way to go Ford.

[@burtbacarach5034]

I'm not a Ford fan,but it seems that all the makes have their issues these days.

[@cheetahpro]

@@burtbacarach5034 Not all makes, mostly domestic.

[@Maybe-So]

@@burtbacarach5034 Agreed. Twin Turbo Toyota truck engines have been blowing up anywhere from 30-60k miles, I wouldn't buy a new Toyota truck, only a 21 or older at this point. (wouldn't buy a twin-turbo anything anyway, just another complex meth-engine-boosting device that shortens the overall engine life).

[@pearsallsmith64]

Ford sent out a bulletin a while back extended coverage on cam phasers to 100k if I recall correctly. Hopefully mine go bad during that time period!

[@PracticalDadd]

Have you considering sites like rockauto or carparts for kits like the timing chain / sprockets? I see a set on rockauto for under 700, but was wondering if the Ford parts are known to be of better quality than those from third party sources?

[@CharlesCurran-m9p]

Is that the 3.5L with the internal water pump? Will you change it as a preventative procedure?

[@Shouse-life]

No. This one is external belt driven. Other wise yes I would change it out.

[@SL-SteveswitchMN]

@@Shouse-life Internal is only explorer and sideways 3.5

[@Maybe-So]

@@SL-SteveswitchMN Ford Edge has an internal water pump. I wouldn't buy one.

[@EdSchreiber-m1p]

Just had my 5.0 2018 fx4 hit in side. Ins paid 25+ ins wanted 7k to keep with salvage title. Went to cpart. Pinion bearings two left spindles water pump 100k miles. Looking at frontier no turbo simple. Always had Fords now too expensive, complex, and expensive to fix. Rather drive beaters I can fix and drive.

[@Howie02000]

The insurance thing? They pay out, on a "certain percentage", of claims, per year, in the grand scheme. A calculated reason, to justify raising premiums, for "certain" policy holders, or just, to raise them, in general. Just a guess, looking at the disparity, between the repair, and pay-out, in this case. Then again, you have, run down, a little "rabbit hole", with the left front wheel, and cam-phasers, so insurance companies may want to head off, similar situations, with multiple claims, on the same vehicle/accident.

[@robsdeviceunknown]

Well, dang. Only thing I wanted to know was how much IT COST to do that. In case i have to do it. Guess I will watch someone else.

[@Shouse-life]

Word on the street is around 3400

[@jimmyhorton8297]

Had mine done at the dealership, they charge 3800 out of warranty. Flying Wrenches KZbin channel is a young mechanic who does a bunch of these, I think he charges 3200, so I guess it depends on where you get it done?

[@bearing_aficionado]

To have my timing redone, it was around $3500.

[@sethmartin1317]

About how many hours do you think the hole cam phaser job took ya?

[@Shouse-life]

If I had all the tools and didn’t have to run to Jayme’s shop twice lol, I’d say it’s a good 6-8 hour job if you went right at it. I’m doing a little here and there because leaning over the rad support is rough on ya. It’s not a bad job, now that I’ve done it. Just a lot of parts to take off and on.

[@sethmartin1317]

@Shouse-life Good job that truck turned out sharp!

[@Maybe-So]

2018 Ford F150 has a belt driven oil pump (INSIDE the engine). No thanks. GM has done some stupid sh*t like this too - belt comes apart, plugs the oil pickup over time... no thanks. best of luck to you. Looks pretty, but looks aren't everything.

[@Tom-x3b]

50k Mile Ford and this happens, WHAT A PILE OF CRAP. NEVER BUY A FORD F150.

[@Badger22-p9w]

If ya do buy one, buy a couple pairs of good shoes. Ford's are constantly putting drivers in tennis shoe mode.

[@broken1965]

Like the front hubs and fiat axles

[@JohnDoe-gm5ux]

And this why I will never own a ford. 50k miles and too much already needs replacing. Junk. Gm is the same way. American motor manufacturers have lost their mind. Their engineering has gone to shit.

[@pearsallsmith64]

NOTHING manufactured right now in the full size market is without issues. I swear it’s the Feds and their constant demands on the mfgs to hit these emissions/economy figures, which results in overly complex, flawed designs. Just my two cents!

[@tommyers1106]

High hopes with a Ford lmao