The Sad Decline of AEW FIGHT FOREVER: 6 MONTHS LATER

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After 3 years of development, AEW FIGHT FOREVER was released in JUNE 2023. Despite being the defacto spiritual successor to WWF NO MERCY, it has since fall into obscurity. In this video I discussed why a game that had potential to be in the alternate to WWE 2K ending up buried after 6 MONTHS.
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[@whitemamba0089]

Good career mode? No ,lots of match types? No, full roster ? No, universal mode? No, only minor bugs and glitches? No, good pin system? No, wasted potential of a good game? Yes

[@MR.__G]

Mini games and battle royal in a wrestling game ? YES !! Lmao

[@whitemamba0089]

@@MR.__G lol yea they really hooked us up with those features

[@MR.__G]

@@whitemamba0089 lmao !!! Bro like who the hell asked for that ? That’s like putting a basketball tournament in god of war lol

[@whitemamba0089]

@@MR.__G I know kenny omega was head of developing what the gameplay should look like so I'm blaming him lol idk how your a gamer and make the decisions he and his team did it baffles me

[@MR.__G]

@@whitemamba0089 couldn’t agree more ! Mind you there’s so many wrestling games out there to take notes from and follow. There’s no reason it should be this barebones in 2023.

[@natesmith3173]

When people today refer to N64 wrestling games as arcade it reveals alot. It was actually the Smackdown games on PS that were the arcade type. The No Mercy type games were the slower, simulation type.

[@savagejiren9660]

The is 100% what I’ve been saying. No Mercy was never an arcade game. I’m starting to think a lot of people saying that never played the game.

[@hawaiianaf2308]

Totally agree with you. Arcade style was definitely the early Smackdown! games.

[@Krazyness]

So true

[@the_real_tay_loud2072]

The N64 warzone game and wrestlemnia the arcade game were both pick up and play button mash arcade

[@TheVoidofNothing11]

Yeah I don't get why people are saying this. I still haven't played this.

[@Mugicha808]

I consider Mdickie's Wrestling Empire as the spiritual successor to the N64 era of wrestling games.

[@MrMisanthrope84]

All that time spent on those awful mini games would have been better spent expanding the match types and adding more layers to the main game mechanics. What a complete waste of time and effort. WWF No Mercy never had all that crap, it focussed entirely on good gameplay, a solid branching career campaign, and excellent match modes that were all fun to play. I feel bad for Evil Uno having to promote this and he never even got to be in the game. What a slap in the face.

[@matthewcorrigan8730]

Could not agree more. The mini games were a swing and a miss. Just awful and a huge waste of time. With all the other wrestling games that have come and gone, you'd think they would have incorporated the best parts and made an outstanding wrestling game. Instead they tried to be so different from wwe they went too far in a confusing and useless direction that will be damn near impossible to come back from. Even if they some how muster up a sequel, I will not be purchasing it.

[@stingersplash]

A BR mode is embarrassing. It's what you do when you have no actual ideas. I'd never play one.

[@JohnHanlin]

@@matthewcorrigan8730, horrible game. I thought Wrestlemania XIX and the TNA game was bad but this game was just 5x worse than both of those games. Kenny just had to have his mini games!!!

[@dhenderson1810]

Kenny Omega wanted mini-games in, and Yukes got overruled by AEW on everything. One of their people went to Visual Concepts and worked on WWE 2K24, and said it was much better, as they can just make the game without WWE interference, and WWE just tick off on things.

[@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419]

It’s funny how just about every criticism of this game could also apply to the company itself.

[@stingersplash]

"Everything is great. Thanks guys!"

[@groovingames215]

People keep saying WWE is more focused on simulation gameplay but they keep forgetting you can literally go into the options and get rid of all of the simulation aspects of the game. Its literally right there in the options.

[@Jayden20933]

I mean yeah but u can’t get as hardcore as before. I don’t want my wrestling game to be like wrestling today that’s weird I want my universe insane and it’s just not possible

[@ben7932]

Literally?

[@yutikoo]

where lol

[@groovingames215]

@@yutikoo in the options and gameplay settings dipshit.

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

@@yutikoonowhere. The only option you can remove is the weight detection, you can set it to arcade, so small guys can lift up giants, but other than that nothing much changes.

[@andrewglidewell2699]

People wanted a game that reminded them of 90s wrestling games, not a wrestling game that felt like it was made in the 90s.

[@BenjiXAddictX4Ever]

I weep knowing Owen Hart is in this failure of a game.

[@GrandBahamaBoy]

Just goes to show that nostalgia doesn't always sell.

[@ozkrow2386]

It would have if the end product wasn’t so bad. They should have had their online mode top notch considering playing vs. online people would be a huge part of the game

[@KillMooseKill]

​@@ozkrow2386the end product was always going to be bad, this game isn't anything that wasn't promised or shown ahead of time.

[@JehBasquiat]

There’s nothing nostalgic about this game though. It’s nothing like Yukes former projects 😂 it’s like Fortnite wrestling, absolutely trash.

[@Xanatos0504]

@@JehBasquiat no it is exactly like the former games. Picture NWO revenge or wwe no mercy with modern graphics, you get fight forever. Nostalgia is a bitch.

[@JehBasquiat]

@@Xanatos0504 lmao no bro I still play No Mercy every other day 😂 this is nothing like No Mercy in any way bro

[@tylerlittleton6583]

How do you have a wrestling game without even a basic cage match?

[@daylebacchus5395]

Did the original smackdown game have a cage match? People expect a brand new game to keep up with a game that’s been going on for 20+ years

[@ChrisSucio]

​@@daylebacchus5395original Smackdown did have cage matches lol I remember playing them

[@daylebacchus5395]

@@ChrisSucio smackdown 2 did but I don’t believe the original did

[@osc-oldschoolclips5204]

What’s really sad is I want to play it but I’m not buying it at the price it’s at. No demo. No trial. Not a big enough sale… I wonder how they’re doing in the sales department. That price has to drop. I can’t really give an opinion on it until I play it myself. For WWE 2K23 I can spend HOURS just cresting a wrestler. Thats not to mention creating an entrance for them and a moveset if I chose to do so. Im not buying AEW Fight Forever even at $40 if its customization is so limited. So sad.

[@Sniper_T_2x]

Yukes should’ve went for a smack down feel and not a no mercy feel

[@nlee4566]

I never cared for No Mercy, always loved SD games on ps1 style.

[@dranzerjetli5126]

One thing is clear. Yukes suck ass

[@dhenderson1810]

​@@nlee4566Should have tried to be like "Here Comes The Pain", not "No Mercy".

[@Latin00032]

This game didn't come close to being like Smackdown here comes the pain or No Mercy. It was not really even a mix of both.

[@JohnVantai]

I just want a remake of Here comes the pain. To this day it's still the best wrestling game for me at least.

[@Immy_Islam786]

I remember reading tweets from AEW and Tony Khan fanboys that this was gonna be the game of the year lmao

[@paynekiller70]

Very fair and accurate review. The game is desperate for more depth in terms of matchtypes which it's currently severely lacking.

[@BrianPurnell-hh7ri]

Exactly I agree it's fair

[@TheChrisPhoenix]

It's crazy we live in a world where more players on playing WWE 2K19 via steam than AEW Fight Forever

[@deepblue8143]

I don't think that's weird at all. 2K19 was great. Fight Forever is absolute garbage. I feel so cheated that I bought this, given Tony and the current AEW product I should have known better.

[@TheChrisPhoenix]

@@deepblue8143 Oh no I am sure you are right, I had fun with 2K19 to the point I just might revisit and start a new universe mode since the newer titles have been boring for 2K at least to me. And Fight Forever looks like a joke.

[@sorryyourenotawinner2506]

2k games are simulation this is old school arcade. Kid.

[@angusbeefyeung]

​@@sorryyourenotawinner2506no, old school arcade are cheaper than this.

[@SCWPhillySports]

they should be sued for comparing this game to No Mercy

[@kidwaryodproduction]

If they made AEW : Backstage Assault I would played it 😆. I would played as CP Munk.

[@retrokoh]

I get that reference😁

[@kidwaryodproduction]

@@retrokoh Bring Colt Cabunny Back. Also Portgas D. Ace Steel 😆 Tony StarKhan in the game cover.

[@retrokoh]

@@kidwaryodproduction not gonna lie I would consider buying the game if a Chikara Expansion Pack + Bugfixes came around

[@djchillout91]

Punk would injure himself in the first match😂

[@dhenderson1810]

You win a match as Punk, you unlock his dog.

[@brooklynmets]

Wrestling fan here, favorite video game...Here Comes the Pain.

[@AdrianFerrari]

A decadent game released almost 1 year ago and still expensive here in Brazil

[@davidjonmoxleyskipp230]

Why tf don't they have entrances for more than five seconds

[@ChrisManley1994]

I played this game for a good solid week then never went near it ever again

[@JamieAinslie]

A very fair review! Its limitations really let the game down. I enjoyed the general tone of the game and the old style mechanics. Road to Elite was fun the first couple of plays throughs, but not long after I started it up for the third time I gave up on the game all together. The fact there's no acknowledgement or title storyline after you win one sums it up. It had lots of potential, but there's not enough to keep the user coming back.

[@Stroop1715]

@jimcornnetesync

[@OfficialBathory]

"The last few years people having been asking for a video game that captures that same energy of those N64 titles" Nah... the mistake was thinking that. Only a certain group of fans grew up playing those 90s games. A 16 yearly old wrestling fan today could care less about No Mercy on N64.

[@markelscott100]

Exactly ppl didnt want the n64 era they wanted the svr era back

[@jdevlin1910]

@@markelscott100 Yup, and Fight Forever is closer to Battlegrounds than anything else.

[@tbx59]

The good news is that money mark doesn't have to make money on wrestling, video games, or anything as long as pops keeps giving him an allowance of car bumper patents.

[@Linkoftimeg]

I had high hopes honestly since Yukes made Day of reckoning on the gamecube. Those games were my favorite.

[@JohnHanlin]

AKI made the Day of Reckoning games. Yukes made all the SvR games and 2K games up until 2K20

[@Linkoftimeg]

@@JohnHanlin no Aki made the n64 games. Their last game wwf no mercy.

[@rufinlooks6956]

Honestly, I could forgive a lot of things about this game but 2 things kill me: -Customization SUCKS. This is not a secret, but like god damn it's disgraceful how few customization options there are for CAW. -Mash to kick out. I get no feedback from this system, I don't like it at all. The 2k stick-flick up for kickouts isn't great but at least I feel in control.

[@MR.__G]

I feel they purposefully made the creation suite so bad to force people into buying dlc wrestlers.

[@kidwaryodproduction]

Even not much good game like WCW Backstage Assault and ECW Anarchy Rulz have a very good CAW and unlockables things to use and customize.

[@MR.__G]

@@kidwaryodproduction damn I forgot backstage assault had a CAW lol !! Will definitely have to KZbin that.

[@looplst]

Everyone should've known better. Writing was on the wall from the first gameplay pics and screenshots.

[@giancosheridan1490]

I feel like to make a good wrestling game you have to focus on customization and ai

[@Kakashi-ip8mg]

I was pretty excited for this game till I saw the graphics. That made me wait for the reviews. Even the reviews that were good the gameplay looked bad. Hopefully they learn and come back with a better sequel.

[@aj_2W0]

At no point in its release was Fight Forever ever going "smooth".

[@TerryBollea1]

Its not a sad decline.... everyone except YOU saw that this game was DOA.

[@Discovering-Me]

Should have season mode for 25 years with storylines

[@ConkersSquirrel]

How many millions did Omega convince Tony to invest in this again? 😂

[@sorryyourenotawinner2506]

ok wwe drone

[@ConkersSquirrel]

@@sorryyourenotawinner2506 the answer is 20million

[@shoelesblondlady]

If you unlock tickle bunny cosplay mode by hiding tony's uppers to distract him so the evps can play grabass you unlock corny n he has a stroke

[@carniac1]

Omg i bout died readin this hahHa good comment

[@ThomasLynch-ti7wr]

What I like about WWE2K is GM mode, picking a roster and booking matches, how they didnt put that in here makes no sense.

[@zacthebuzzkill]

The problem with stadium stampede is that nobody is ever online to play it.

[@lightfm90]

All the missing modes and CAW stuff could have been fixed if they didn't waste time on a sh*tty fortnite wanna-be mode and stupid mario party modes nobody wants to play. Give that budget to most wrestling fans and they would put out a better game.

[@woodwwad]

Not having Evil Uno could have only made the game better.

[@ianfitton9400]

nothing worse than wasted potential,the game promised so much and delivered very little!

[@williamcosbyIII]

No Mercy still absolute 🔥 in 2024!

[@kitezzz360]

'Decline' implies there was some success to begin with, there wasn't, this game was a flop out the door. You really should retitle this video

[@philthatcher6111]

Fight forever is the worst wrestling game that I've ever played. Worse than wcw thunder on the ps1 or wrestlemania challenge on the nes. This game is the drizzles

[@MR.__G]

Worst then backstage assault? Lmaoo

[@ScuffedHomie]

I’m glad I never purchased this game ngl

[@joefawley9264]

I think smackdown vs raw 07 was the best wrestling game of all time.

[@dogepin1640]

For a day or 2 I was like this is soo cool and unique on release. I bought the ultimate edition and to this day I regret it. I tried 7 times to get a refund all times denied

[@danman9439]

The game was announced as a long-term game... Translated: there will be some paid DLCs to come.

[@wardengentles53]

Sad? How about MAD?! At least for us that pre-ordered the deluxe edotion

[@The80sWolf_]

The gameplay is actually fun, but the devs really needs to add a whole lot of free stuff to it

[@SiddharthChakravarthyS]

The turn off for me was that the weapons and tables fade out, when someone is front of it

[@clintoncronin2504]

Played this when it came out and it made me think of the PS2 WWF smackdown games, so I dug out my Smackdown Here comes the pain game and played it on my PS2 instead. Hopefully the sequel of the AEW game has better graphics if they ever do one

[@christopherharte4741]

Hey, remember those wrestling games from 20 years ago, here it is for $60 and more. Who asked for that? Only dumb marks who never played the originals. No Mercy and Revenge were good FOR THE TIME PERIOD, as AEW just showed, it sucks today.

[@MR.__G]

People are drunk off nostalgia. Whatever happened to creating new ideas ?

[@NateTheGnat]

I'd say this game was pretty successful. In getting suckers like me to plunk down that sixty on day one. Well that's how it goes...

[@ravenstrahd5234]

The AEW fanbase has fallen off since one bill phil departed.

[@ImCaptainCabbage]

Graphics 1 star, gameplay 2 stars, originality 3 stars, fun factor 3 stars, longevity 2 stars. All in all a poor effort. The graphics for this gen are unbelievably bad. Really glitchy, restrictive roster, nah.

[@andrewhooper5933]

10 Million is a tiny budget for a modern game with this scope.

[@mxt87]

shouldve sold it at 29.99 for the base game

[@ashleyburns6752]

They didnt even bother putting on sale for Christmas, nobody wants this trash. The sad thing is, those of us who saw this coming and said so in the comments for years during gameplay trailers were seen as negative, or WWE fan boys. Hate to be right.

[@dhenderson1810]

"AEW Fight Forever" The "E. T. The Extra Terrestrial" game of the 21st century.

[@richborn6700]

You know your game has failed when it makes the TNA game look legit by comparison

[@MCB741]

Here Comes the Pain clears No Mercy and Revenge and it’s not even close.

[@RedneckOgre9000]

This game shares much more similarities with the 2 WWF Day of Reckoning games on GameCube than it does the AKI N64 games.

[@DemonChildCC]

The worst part is having a roster of over 200 and only giving 54 wrestlers for 60 bucks ten deciding to rip people off with dlc.. when this game shouldn't have had paid dlc.. for fucks sakes, they had 3 fuckin years to make this game and this is the best they could do?!

[@tomx.y.1954]

Damn cm punk looks so cursed

[@Lenoh]

Bro. "Here Comes The Pain". "Raw 2". N64 games? Nah.

[@KrotharSmash]

Every time i see this game on a store page im blown away that it actually released

[@TreyBeam]

Umm I’ve never heard any one say that those were their favorite. It’s always “Here comes the pain” or Smack Down Vs Raw 07/06

[@dantemcedgelord9331]

maybe you are too young

[@TreyBeam]

@@dantemcedgelord9331 na that ain’t gonna work here old head.. I grew up with the N64 games they don’t come close to HCTP

[@carniac1]

Revenge is still byfar my fave wrasslin game

[@BaronLector]

Is the gameplay, control-wise, similar or identical to that of No Mercy?

[@MaddMan621]

virtually identical to no mercy

[@BaronLector]

@@MaddMan621 This is a good thing. This puts it on my eventual purchase list. I forget where I heard it, but I swear Tony Khan mentioned that, instead of annual game releases, he plans on releasing annual update DLC.

[@ScorpionDarkblue]

Perhaps the worst thing to come out of the AEW banner so far. If the game only costs 30 to 40 dollars, no one will complain, especially because it was technically up to date in 2010. But unfortunately it was just a “licensed cucumber”.

[@dhenderson1810]

AEW TV shows aren't much better.

[@ScorpionDarkblue]

@@dhenderson1810 At least they are better than WWE shows but you are right. Actually it's not so good like years before.

[@EncinoDude]

Cant really decline when nothing was rhere to begin with.

[@kyaudioguy1]

Maybe it's just a horribly run company that is at it's core, is just a rich kids hobby.

[@MrGeo-EmitFodrol]

I love Revenge, No Mercy, Here comes the pain and most of the Svr and WWE2k. 15 and 20 were dog shit and 22 and 23 have been let downs from glitches ( I can only download 35 caws... We should be able to fit 350 stars, plus 50+ arenas, championships, images, videos etc... ) to every other glitch we know. We deserve a new better wrestling game. AEW was laughably bad. No mercy was good in 99-03 but when they said a no mercy type game I didn't know they meant graphics, gameplay, how barebonrs it felt. We deserve a great wrestling game.

[@DarkRictor]

Anyone reading this, check out WWF Legends Challenge 64 on PC! It's a mod for N64 WWF No Mercy, with a later 80s, early 90s roster & amazing graphics!

[@jaystinson8071]

Here comes the pain always had me 😂🐐

[@nooooooooope3809]

Nah, man. Def Jam: Vendetta. That's where it's fucking at.

[@Wex4rdGam3r]

Kenny omega did a great job.

[@chamae01]

Ding

[@michaelgoodwin80]

I knew that this game was DOA when they announced their Battle Royal mode; i tend to stay away from those types of games

[@johntimothy9757]

AEW is a company that exists purely for the Attitude Era fan base. Nostalgia is gonna be their eventual downfall if they don’t realize those times are long gone. Cussing and being ‘hardcore’ just for the sake of it isn’t gonna cut it anymore, and a game inspired by a N64 game sure as shit won’t either. Nostalgia only lasts for so long. Then you get bored of it. AEW is proving that in real time.

[@jimbobdc]

It looks cheap, and of what I saw, it seemed like the wrestlers moved quite wonky, so I had no reason to buy it

[@tophertheartist]

Casino Royal … broken trash they refuse to fix. And it’s the fist match of road to elite … Ai isn’t programmed to eliminate. Core problem. They stand and look at you waiting for you to get up , refusing to attack the other opponent, team you , and it’s just randomized chance it’ll work. Inferior a team of workers fail at something that’s their subject. Y’all bread and butter yall fail. But dance around fixing the ai and release dlc ? No seriously f these developers. If yall can’t fix casino royal but make another online mode. They are a joke. No excuses for not fixing that broken trash. Season 2 and since day one the career mode is broken. Eliminate the other wrestlers. Hate seeing them stand there and not attack the other grounded opponents. Taunt get a signature or finisher then turn directly to you. If they attack the other wrestler it’s only to build a signature or finisher and use it on you ! Still no strong grapples in that match either. Never explained why you could never ever use strong grapples in a casino royal match. I’m an artist and people demand a lot I get it. But a team is ignoring core issues within a main match type and do everything else but fix it. They choose to go around what’s needed and ask for dlc. I’m done at this point. truly disgusted they didn’t fix that mode. Said oh season 2 that means career mode is updated and fixed. Let’s go through career mode and see what’s fixed it’s been months. Yea that went badly. No more dlc support outta me. I will not buy anything else from them. They lost me.

[@SkellyDrAgOn]

Game belongs in the dollar bin.

[@NinjaFingers19]

Lmfao yall swore this shit was a hit when it came out

[@xLatinAssazzin]

People always mentioned wwe games they like what about games like rumble roses it was fun non wwe game

[@Nyfancam01]

This game was a complete waste of money. Pure trash. I regret buying it. Should have been 9.99 . TRASH even then

[@markaholicsanonymous677]

Looking back on it I’m almost sure the people behind Fight Forever were not fans of No Mercy and have no clue what the fans of those games want. Nor do they care.

[@dhenderson1810]

Or maybe fans overrate "No Mercy".

[@TheTruth-mv7hm]

Just wait till 2k24 comes out. It's Gonna be the biggest wrestling game in years

[@K-DUBOfficial]

AEW your next game should focus on progressing wrestling career mode and CAW I would try to make the best career mode and Create a Wrestler modes ever If you nail the career mode and create a wrestler, the game will go a long way Best Career Mode all-time? Best Create a Wrestler options all time? Strive to do this!

[@dhenderson1810]

There won't be a next game.

[@fistfoo]

All they had to do was switch pin system

[@MR.__G]

They have way more problems than that !! This incomplete game been dead for months.

[@ozkrow2386]

Which one of us will run out to buy a sequel? Not me. At least not at full price.

[@gamesthatiplay9083]

Speaking of WWE 2K19, it has more players than the AEW game.

[@itsblack90]

The game is currently 30 bucks on amazon and i thought about buying it for this price. But I'm thinking maybe waiting until i see it for 10-20 bucks since it seems to really not be worth it. I still want to support it so atleast they can make another one

[@juancoronado4798]

Wait untill its free atp waste of money for 30 bucks

[@itsblack90]

​@@juancoronado4798 yeah at this point i just play wwe 2k23 online with randoms so i have no problem waiting to see this game be cheaper for me to get it.

[@oldemonteef]

i think if they make another game cokehead tony should be tried for crimes against humanity and he and his clown ass father should have to give their stolen money back to the working class.

[@chrishernandez3699]

They're not making another one 🤣

[@Jason_Moore619]

They should pay us to play it

[@chrissalem3747]

Calling it a sad decline means that it was worth a shit at one point. It wasn't. Huge waste of my money.

[@SimonCowie86]

Mate THQ dosnt excist anymore. They went backrupt back in 2013 & THQ was liquidated & what was left was bought up by Nordic games who is Embracer Group now.

[@michaelgoodwin80]

Was hyped when they released it, then I borrowed the Switch port, and it was a massive let down. I read a bunch of complaints about the game, so I'm certain that the issues do not plague to Switch port exclusively! Was so let down when no one liked it. I was hoping for a better tenure on PC, given that they allow mods, only to find out that no one is playing it there, either!

[@britishmodified]

There was one problem with this game. Kenny omega

[@andrew8168]

This is at $30. When it hits $20 I will buy it.

[@deepblue8143]

0:33 that's a slap in the face that they let that guy wrestle in the women's division.

[@RIPdixiecarter]

I don't see a guy, maybe you're confused.

[@deepblue8143]

@@RIPdixiecarter might want to get your eyes or head checked.

[@RIPdixiecarter]

@deepblue8143 OK, I done both I don't know what you're arbitrarily seething about Maybe consider touching grass or socializing with people. Install meetup or something

[@deepblue8143]

@RIPdixiecarter a confused man does not equate a woman, any sane individual knows this. That is a slap in the face to all of the real women that have to step in the ring with that thing.

[@RIPdixiecarter]

Well you're certainly confused and very irrationally angry over someone existing so based on that I don't think you're a woman, you seem way too emotional. Guess we can reach some mutual ground there. I mean if you really want to take up a feminist cause which I'm completely certain that youre in stark good faith about I promise you there are more pressing issues than this faux womens wrestling crisis mostly men seem to be livid about than the women themselves and why would they when every single one of them are real? Maybe organize a protest against SCOTUS theyve definitely been more detrimental to womens rights than Nyla Roae. Maybe donate to your local Planned Parenthood in Clearance Thomas's name or maybe write to your local state senator about ratifying the equal rights amendment if you live in a state which hasnt, or I don't know stop falling for blatant grifting campaigns fabricated by people who want you to be distracted while they plunder your social security.

[@Mampfie]

i want my wrestling game to be fast paced and full of action like Here comes the Pain or SDvsRaw 2006

[@MitchellBay]

It's a shitty mobile game disguised that cowers behind a No Mercy comparison smokescreen. I tried so hard to convince myself to buy this game but I'm glad better sense prevailed.

[@Nevxh]

It just needs more modes then i would buy