The Sad Truth About Working at Google in 2023

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[@AaronJack]

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[@a55tech]

nobody care about visme bro link to the article u talkin about

[@karmatraining]

It's important to understand that Google is such a large company that it shouldn't really be treated as a single company, or thought of as a single company. To understand why I say this, look at Google's revenue for 2023 (roughly $250B USD). That's comparable to the import revenues of nations like Switzerland and Thailand. So when you hear of "layoffs at Google" it would be better to ask "Layoffs at which division of Google" to get to a scale of an actual, ordinary-sized company. This scale difference is also why companies like Google and Amazon could never fail, barring a cataclysmic natural disaster that would wipe out the majority of humanity. Governments would never allow such large entities to fail.

[@Thekingslayer-ig5se]

Good point

[@G73Server]

comparing the failure of google to a wipeout of humanity? how delusional are you?

[@Mr.Coffee576]

I’m not shocked that employees think Google lost its vision, considering that their flagship products are more than 15 years old, and they haven’t innovated anything after that. Search, Gmail, Maps. That’s what people think when they think Google.

[@T1Oracle]

They also have Android, Docs, and Calendar, which could be summarized to Google Office (they don't call it that, but that's what it is), Search, Android, and Maps. Regardless, Google would be a better company if they focused more on their core products and stopped trying to chase every new thing under the sun. All of those core apps are lagging in features that new startups have been able to deliver. Proton Mail for one is way more secure than Gmail, the only thing holding it back is firewalling by Google and companies that think only Google, MS, Apple, and Yahoo should be allowed to send emails.

[@koma7778]

youtube is their flagship product

[@Mr.Coffee576]

@@koma7778 Google didn’t build KZbin. They bought it. We haven’t seen Google build a product from the ground up and made it extremely successful in the past 5-10 years.

[@thepwrtank18]

@@koma7778 and they bought that

[@izamalcadosa2951]

Google has put out dozens of products over the past 10 years but no one really does their research and know what they are and do! They make exceptional proprietary software and platforms, in general! I worked there so I know all of their strengths and weaknesses!

[@filovirus1]

Sundar The Bozo Pichai needs to go. generally anyone from McKinsey should NOT be CEO of any company.

[@strydomobile]

Absolutely agree. McKinsey as well as Deloitte are some of the most overrated companies ever. They just sell snake oil without having any skin in the game.

[@Nytrouse]

I always add "reddit" onto the end of my searches lmao

[@Zen_Wolf]

Whatsapp is owned by Meta not google 4:26

[@izamalcadosa2951]

Google made Google Chats and Hangouts, and both suck ass! Take it from a Software Engineer that worked there, and know some of the guys that worked on that platform!

[@Spainog]

I have been seeing the decadence of the quality in all Google products and thinking a lot about how they stop being nthe center of the innovation and culture... And everything seems to point to the CEO

[@Thekingslayer-ig5se]

@@boyblue3270 he is also taking home a huge huge package.

[@HaroldoPinheiro-OK]

I would say this started when Google opened its capital... having shareholders completely changes a company's priorities. The CEO is just a symptom.

[@Mr.Coffee576]

Indian corporate culture is more of reserved, strict and hierarchal, while American is more transparent, open, and willing to take risks and innovate. So I'm not surprised Sundar Pichai just dismissed the culture which made Google great, and is treating it like IBM. It is the anti thesis of Silicon Valley culture which is to fight Big Brother.

[@Thekingslayer-ig5se]

IBM is also lead by an incompetent Indian ceo

[@hemanthsavasere934]

Not totally. Satya is doing great job at Microsoft.

[@Thekingslayer-ig5se]

@@hemanthsavasere934 he is an exception

[@gotfan7743]

@@Thekingslayer-ig5se Hmm...What about Fedex CEO then? What about Adobe CEO then? What about Micron CEO then? What about Starbucks CEO then? I can go on. All those companies I mentioned have Indian CEOs. This is nothing to do with Indian CEO. This is everything to do with Google having monopoly on search and easy money coming from search, playstore and other businesses it operates. It is but natural for such a company to decay overtime. You don't believe me? Go ask someone who worked at Nokia in the late 2000's.

[@sandy666ification]

Meanwhile Microsoft under Satya is crushing Apple. 😆

[@anclaudys]

Sundar Pichai gives off politician/diplomat vibes more-so than CEO vibes. Maybe he’s in the wrong field.

[@rockpadstudios]

You really see human nature when you work for a company that has seen good times and the staff hears the word layoffs. People you thought were friends really can get nasty. I guess people living paycheck to paycheck panic. I worked at a startup after the whole division was axed I saw an engineer 2 weeks later and he must have lost 40 lbs. I have a friend at Google that just bought a 1.5 million dollar house at 6.5% interest. I did the math and he needs to bring in 18k per month (after taxes) to just live normally. 10 years ago the RSU's could net on average 4 million over 4 years (maybe 2.5 after taxes) but now it's reduced to 1.5 to 2, not good. I don't see how AI is going to get around the energy problem. Without fusion break throughs AI is a pipe dream.

[@doublesushi5990]

this guy gets it.

[@christinecamley]

Silly to buy a house at that interest rate with unpredictability, to be honest. That's going on here in Vancouver as well.

[@nccamsc]

Once a company becomes big enough it turns into a Corporation. Quarterly reports, stock price, shareholder pressure - these take precedence over user and employee happiness.

[@davidanalyst671]

Google was lightyears ahead with tensorflow, and then they had their own online server rental business for programming.... and theeeennnnn it lost the lead in both. I agree with this guy. Google also has 27 other business that could moonshot to something, but not with this defeatist attitude of losing everything

[@mecanuktutorials6476]

The classic “Tortoise and Hare “

[@T1Oracle]

Google is shooting itself in the foot with its own internal toxic work culture that forces good people and out and rewards the manipulators that game the system. Ultimately, nothing they make will succeed because the talent that builds good things will never exist long enough to sustain it.

[@KeithDart]

Too much internal politics now.

[@femloh]

I never did like Sundar Pichai. He. is not a visionary in anyway . He looks like the guy you hire just to please shareholders . A bland CEO. Since he took over, Google has stopped dominating in innovations. By hey what do I know

[@KIIXI]

Every technology has a peak curve maybe that is reached

[@manonamission2000]

some CEOs are good at maintenance, others are visionaries

[@darrennew8211]

​@@KIIXIAlmost every successful company dies when the founders leave.

[@MidwestWind]

Wanna turn the key light up a bit? 💡

[@tcbobb1613]

Didn't that guy say he was tired of working at Google for 18 years and was thinking he would leave a couple years ago? And if you check his X page, he was just bunt out kind of and was glad to work at Google for all of the years.

[@darrennew8211]

I worked there 9 years and left a couple years ago. What he's saying is true, and recent.

[@jacktaylor1516]

Engineers are first and foremost to a tech company. Managers are replaceable. If you don’t understand that, you are the problem.

[@iorekby]

Engineers are replaceable too though. Very few are exceptional. Most are okay. Their value lies more in familiarity with a project than any innate technical brilliance. And there are a ton of awful engineers too. Like tons.

[@doublesushi5990]

@@iorekby competition is only getting worse, over 8 billion people on earth.

[@iorekby]

@doublesushi5990 Yes but demand is also scaling. So more is required, which actually dilutes competition as there are more posts than engineers. Or there were. And frankly, engineers are getting worse over time, not better. Too much ADHD riddled don't let kids fail education now. Everyone wants things explained in a 5 minute YT video. No one wants to get deep understanding. Which means you end up with lots of half asses engineers doing mediocre work.

[@KeithDart]

yes, I agree. I worked at Google off and on over several years. The middle management there now is just horrid. I wanted to go back there a few years ago, but then came to my senses. Would never want to work there now. BTW, Apple isn't much different.

[@koma7778]

why their middle management is bad?

[@KeithDart]

@@koma7778 The video mention it. It's the same in most places, actually. The MM layer keeps the archaic practice of paying them more. So those positions attract those primarily seeking more money, and status. Once they are there, they resist any change that might see as "risky". No new innovative ideas, no new tools that they don't understand. They don't want to "rock the boat", and risk their position. There are many examples of this, one of the well known ones was Xerox PARC, where Steve Jobs had to come along and take the creative people out to make the MacIntosh and Lisa. Xerox actually invented most of that technology, but their MM didn't know what to do with it. This kind of thing happens a lot, from small unknown scale to the larger known ones. Then the MM layer often engages in "turf wars", or justifying their positions. Self-focused rather than mission focused. The MM layer is where most corporate problems originate. It's what causes decay, rot, and the ultimate downfall of organizations of all sizes, from corporations to governments.

[@vibrolax]

It was a tech company that turned into an advertising company. Few sane people would choose an advertising company to build and maintain the country's (and world's) information infrastructure. It's madness.

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

This is actually good for innovation. Great employees who are dissatisfied will leave go on to make their own projects spuring competition. But yeah, Google search today is hot garbage.

[@MrFijiBoySako]

This is what happens when you hire based on DEI vs merit.

[@kpmedia8977]

exactly

[@chris08091]

I liked how the screen shakes when speaking about shaking things up

[@davidanalyst671]

The strange thing is that googles stock has done fantastic under sundar

[@liangyuaq-qoyunlu407]

it's just tracking the Nasdaq

[@kippetzod1907]

THAT part of climbing in bed with Satan works. Until the crash. THe market is being manipulated with AAPL - above all - but also Nvidia and 5 or 6 other highly over priced stocks. Just because they smell like AI does not mean they know how to make enough money to support those out of whack valuations

[@iorekby]

Yeah but that could be by short term cost cutting. Not by innovation.

[@cc1drt]

yeah so did ftx under sbf look how that turned out lmfaooo

[@dkTruthBuster]

Dont ever go by academics alone. Sunder is a below average guy, throw him out.

[@the_londondude4139]

Good Vid! Thx

[@codefallacy]

google is turning into yahoo or worst blockbuster. investors want money, and that will bite into its innovation

[@RikuLeppanen]

Google seems to be having a Nokia moment.

[@markksantos]

why is the footage so darK?

[@athens31415]

Big Tech is now just Big Corporate.

[@johnthejudoka]

Dude, lighting.

[@izamalcadosa2951]

I worked at Google for about 15-months, as a Junior Software Engineer, from February 2022-May 2023. I did not know any of this, to be honest!

[@joycxi]

LINK THE FRICKING CRITIQUE IN THE DESCRIPTION

[@learningstuff5679]

Are you still running Freemote?

[@IrishKingzz]

Someone turn on the lights 😂 Man the overuse of sound effects is annoying af

[@ElPikacupacabra]

Where is the link to the original?

[@darrennew8211]

I downvote any "reaction video" that doesn't include a link to the actual content being reacted to.

[@donjindra]

I don't care about Google one way or the other. But self-interest and moral integrity are not mutually exclusive. So when people make accusations about these concepts I want details.

[@darrennew8211]

Every company goes to shit when the founders leave. The founders have a vision, and if the company is successful their vision is appreciated widely and their management works. Then they retire, and they hire someone, and say "keep making money." But the new guy is not the best for the job, so he starts trading in the reputation for continued profits even when the company is run poorly, because he doesn't know what else to do.

[@felipecantalice5326]

Maybe someone from Deepmind can be Google CEO

[@athens31415]

Deepmind minds are going to their own startups now. Anyone who is good doesn't want to work in Big Corporate now.

[@Marva123]

Sundar needs to be fired he has no clue what he is doing leading the company

[@basicprogrammer6147]

What else is there? AI to replace all HR, hiring and firing, government, legal, medical, all jobs. After that, what is there left to "innovate"?

[@leocarvalho8051]

Whatsapp is owned by facebook (Meta) not Google

[@1smallball]

Holy shit at all those distracting sound effects

[@vonnie1999]

Also Google had a young culture. Now as they grow into adulthood - they don't want to be married to a company anymore.

[@ericbwertz]

F Google, F KZbin. Evil.

[@bidanfullko1]

But is it bad? Perhaps this is precisely the opportunity to occupy those places that such a company would have seized without the right to exist for another. Although it continues to 'disrupt' and acquire startups... nevertheless. However, it seems like good news for ambitious innovators that the 'giant' with problems. 😈

[@thatundeadlegacy2985]

How can google create more when everythings already been made.

[@TomNook.]

Have you run out of light bulbs?

[@nulledape]

Why didn't he do anything after 16 years? People like this are cowards in every industry. If you give a damn, do something then.

[@nabla0delta]

Aaron Whatsapp is not a Google product.

[@obscuremusictabs5927]

To be fair Aaron Whatsapp isn't anything. However, there is an app called Whatsapp. Maybe that's what you were referring to.

[@nabla0delta]

@@obscuremusictabs5927who is the owner of this channel ? Arron. Who owns WhatsApp? Meta not Google. The point of the comment is to point out that if they aren't even able to figure out what products Google actually owns perhaps there are other faults in his findings in this video.

[@koma7778]

wassup

[@archockencanto1645]

​​@@nabla0deltaHe was trying to point out that you missed a comma... It should've been : Aaron, Whatsapp... and not: Aaron Whatsapp What you wrote indicates a person named Arron Whatsapp (last name), to which he was hinting to.

[@-es2bf]

button developer foresees the fall of the almighty google. Everyone start shorting google!

[@A_Lo_Pex]

Wtf is going on with the editing in this video, the movement and sounds are out of control

[@francescoferrante1791]

End of Google is near at end. The bigger they are, the harder they fall

[@cc1drt]

the DEI CEO aint cutting it LMFAO

[@ser-hanga]

Why's WhatsApp being shown?

[@yunleung2631]

Googe acquired it by acquiring Meta duh

[@obscuremusictabs5927]

A slight touch of irony that you're posting this on a google owned site.

[@progpogs]

Further proof that they can maintain a legacy service, but struggle to make new things. They didn't even make youtube, they acquired it.

[@obscuremusictabs5927]

@@progpogs In the beginning it wasn't hard to come up with amazing tools that blew people's minds. And people were more easily wowed even just a decade ago. And it's not like they invented maps, they just made a new tool to view maps. They really didn't invent anything new just digital tools for things that have always existed. Computers are just glorified filing cabinets. Even KZbin is just a combination of TV, mail and telegrams. Now that all the easy boxes have been checked off it's going to be a lot harder to wow people especially people nowadays who expect everything to be free and instantly amazing.

[@cc1drt]

youtube was better before google. They dont actually do ANYTHING all they do is monetize everything they can. No innovation, nothing impressive, for YEARS

[@dwaynekshrn]

WhatsApp is not a Google product

[@antoniocestari5775]

WhatsApp it’s not a google product 👀

[@Jben7976]

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THEIR MASCOT DUDE DOESNT HAVE EARS???? IVE SEEN PRETTY MUCH ALL THE VIDEOS THAT THIS CHANNEL PUTS OUT....LIKE THE ONE WHERE HE HAD THIS ENORMOUS BRAIN😂....DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT ONE???? OR THE ONE WHERE HES SMOKING A CIGGARETTE TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO CODE???? WHY DOESNT HE HAVE EARS???? THE DRAWINGS ARE REALLY COOL....VERY DISTINCTIVE DRAWINGS....

[@aidantech]

Google has flawed business logic for their devs. No pun intended

[@bayou__]

Banyak negatifnya bro, coba cari positif dong bro. Karyawan biasa nya cuma nyari batu loncatan doang bukan untuk mengabdi 😊

[@philip024]

Hmmmm 😢 o google what are you doing ...

[@MyNathanking]

So Aaron Jack, when are you going to do a video about how Google has completely blown its flagship app Google Earth; ruined it beyond recognition, and made it completely unusable.

[@doublesushi5990]

they did?

[@MyNathanking]

@@doublesushi5990 you’re asking they did what? Please reply with more than two vague words.

[@doublesushi5990]

@@MyNathanking Google ruined Google Earth?

[@MyNathanking]

@@doublesushi5990 haven’t you seen the new Google Earth for yourself? It is absolutely useless. The incompetent Google software engineers screwed it all up.

[@doublesushi5990]

@@MyNathanking KZbin isn't giving me updates on comment responses smh.. as a kid I loved Google Earth, let me have a look at what you comment about.

[@saturnteatree]

As a black woman engineer they contacted me two years straight never granted me an interview… finally got one didn’t even make it pass the first round…. They dont care about diversity of thought like that

[@athens31415]

You are right -- all of the initiatives were just performative, at best. So sorry to hear you getting jerked around. I'm starting to think that the way to go now is for everyone to change their resumes and image to look like a white male -- like a reverse catfish on the corporations.

[@EpicPhazee]

Did you hire an Indian to edit your video??

[@n0madtv]

"decline" may be subjective. People on the outside of the tech world don't really see this type of dogmatic 'culture' as a positive thing.

[@FRkiddo]

You might want to look into their DEI hiring practices and its impact on culture and results, if you dare that is

[@ImLure]

Most of Google DEI hires are not even in their development processes. They had outreach positions and some front office positions filled (maybe) but even those have been reduced (see Meta doing this as well). I promise you DEI is not the reason why Google’s innovation is failing. This new “DEI is ruining companies” hype is asinine at best. The current situation has less to do with how many minorities are being hired over competent white males but that most of the innovation space that google was once in has dried up. Googles biggest revenue builder is a company they had to buy (KZbin). They are currently walking the path of those who came before them (Cisco, IBM, etc)

[@UnDark1]

@@ImLure you hit the nail on the head. These companies preach DEI but the reality is they’ll hire a white woman or gay white male as the “diversity.” If they do hire a Black male, they’ll be over qualified and likely to be laid off. If they hire a Black woman she’ll likely be in HR. People are just screaming DEI because it’s a convenient excuse, blame it on Blacks. Regarding Google, it’s clear that the old culture flamed out 10yrs ago. It was common for people to just “rest and vest” there. It was common for people to say “this is the company I will never leave.” I’ve even interviewed at other companies (Stripe) and the HM said they left Google because they wanted to actually do work. Finally, if you look at Google today, ever since OpenAI and the layoffs, they’ve released more features and products. So they’re clearly scrambling to readjust to the competitive landscape. I wonder if it’s too late.

[@athens31415]

@@UnDark1 I think it is too late. The incentives are now totally flipped, and there's no going back. This is becoming true for pretty much all of the big tech companies nowadays. The real work is getting done in the startups and small companies. The big companies know this, and the CEOs are colluding with each other to induce a major recession so they can maximize their profit and theft again with lower interest rates, while keeping salaries repressed. 2023/2024 is turning to be a massive inflection point.

[@UnDark1]

@@athens31415 I was being a little optimistic about Google but I think your view is more accurate. I’ve noticed a pattern that companies are pushing massive layoffs and then opening the same positions at lower rates. I spoke to a leader at a large company last year and his feedback was that the government was going to force a recession so they were laying off preemptively, and all other major companies were doing the same; this was around the time Google/amazon/meta, etc first started layoffs. Re: startups. That’s where the real work is at in my opinion. They’re also more selective than the larger tech companies.

[@jwilder2251]

Welcome to every publicly traded company ever

[@bezant1971]

WhatsApp is Meta

[@gavinlew8273]

What will happen to KZbin? Google owns KZbin doesn't it?

[@alirazi9198]

Have u seen a worse youtube since its inception?

[@gavinlew8273]

@@alirazi9198 There's plenty of great content on KZbin, so it's getting better.

[@kevinmcfarlane2752]

They are doing mass layoffs too.

[@iorekby]

KZbin seems broadly still popular and the idea of video only social media is obviously incredibly popular. In other words, YT would get sold off if necessary, or a rival would come along we'd all migrate too.

[@dimitrijat]

Bro im not watching cartoon network, calm down with the sound effects

[@ri3m4nn]

It's just transition sounds

[@mmm-ie5ws]

This guy has no idea what hes saying, the article author.

[@bigdaddy7729]

Hire indian ceo , get indian economic results

[@semyaza555]

Lmfao the thing no one wants to say but what we’ve all experienced, at least once, at some point in our careers.

[@xaxeric]

😂😂😂

[@cryohellinc]

Google takeaways is their next product

[@ri3m4nn]

Underrated post

[@Summersault666]

Sir, please delete it. India is superpower 2030.

[@ericchang9568]

You should check Sundar pichai s insider selling records: from the beginning he's been selling his shares as soon as they're vested, and the shares he still owns are all future un-vested.

[@basicvince]

Is that a wig?

[@not_ever]

I'm not trying to be rude but your video looks like when school children make their first Powerpoint and discover transitions and wordart. It's a hot mess and it's affecting the viewability of your video. Less is more and will probably make video editing easier and less time consuming.

[@xclampazzo]

Agreed, it is embarrassing

[@elcapitan6126]

the overfocus on DEI in software engineering is turning it into a participation economy rather than an engineering and building/hacking one. it's no surprise it's become heavily corporatized at the same time

[@edwardo737]

Hey Google, go woke become a joke.

[@ssmith5048]

FWIW started to wathc your video, but all the annoying sound effects you added were just too much. Less is more...don't overproduce , it's just a video ffs....

[@John5ive]

it takes weeks to add all that stuff. that's why so few vids!

[@praveenr9361]

Sorry Pichai you are a waste. Sorry for writing the truth on your platform 😊

[@planesrift]

Indianized

[@dsinghr]

Wokeness consuming the company

[@mattmccarty72]

All of your large tech companies have hiring “teams”, these teams are one end of it, because hiring is not without it’s counterpart, the firing “team”/HR or whatever the company wants to call them. With any tech company, you are either at the top of your game… always or you are gone. Sadly humans don’t increase mental or physical production as they age. All of this is why Ai will replace most tech employees and if you think that is a joke, you may want to open your eyes. Also please don’t look at “career “ as it was so many years ago, those days are far gone. If I had to side hustle to make ends meet, I’m not where I need to be and I would look at leaving the company I so called have a career with. All of these companies suck them in and spit’em out and only the top minds and physically healthy stay. It’s all a bit sickening really.

[@mmm-ie5ws]

cancel culture destroyed Google.