The Saddest Robot on Earth (Can't Help Myself)

[@deburke321]

This has been the stressful video I've ever made, not because of the actual creative process but because of everything that happened during it. My editing software crashed and was unusable half way through, my account was then breached and my channel was then banned. Luckily I was able to get it back but safe the say it has not been a fun week. I then had to render this video 6 different times because it kept rendering incorrectly. Even now, it still has a couple of flaws, there is a couple of random pauses around 5 minutes in that are not intentional and I had a swanky intro that I had to edit out but all in all, this is the best version of the video I could get out and honestly it's only a couple of small mistakes so I'm alright with it. I'm still happy with the actual video, but I'm much happier to have it released and to just have this weird chapter of the channel put behind me. Hopefully it's smooth sailing for the rest of the year. In case some weird nonsense happens again I recommend following me over on Twitter (Deburke321), I don't use it much but I used it a lot during this ordeal and it was actually a very handy tool to get the message out. I'll see you guys soon regardless, much love ❤

[@numinoir]

Is this posted Friday 31 March 2023? Feeling like I might have crossed timeliness

[@Ghostman223]

​@@numinoirdates are in video descriptions

[@numinoir]

@@Ghostman223 I know. But time travelling is weird, so I know what I'm asking sounds strange.

[@Ghostman223]

​@@numinoirtime traveling doesn't exist yet?

[@numinoir]

@@Ghostman223 it does, in Time-Space, not Space-time 😉 there's more to it than it may sound.

[@huldrrrr9486]

Even though it wasn't the artist's intention, the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this was OCD and coercive actions. This robot being forced to repeat this endless task for years on end due to it's very own "nature", getting increasingly worn out and desperate, was pretty relatable to me...

[@doindaworst5824]

I clicked on the video after seeing the little preview because I have ocpd and the older I've gotten the worse I've gotten with coping. I've had to stop working due to many psychotic breaks and I'm only 30... This robot made me very emotional.

[@BridghamGray]

And thats what should matter

[@huldrrrr9486]

@@doindaworst5824 I'm so sorry you have to go through that, all my best wishes

[@LushiaKyobi]

I have OCD and that's exactly how it feels.

[@seb1520]

I like your interpretation a lot, I personally saw it as how machines are in a perpetual state of replacing humans and are “cleaning up” after us. It’s honestly an incredibly morbid piece

[@kristopherguilbault5428]

I completely got this exhibit wrong ...i thought that the liquid was the oil that it utilized and when the oil disappeared eventually it died. And it was almost like it was bleeding and trying to stay alive by shoveling it back to itself

[@ladylark10884]

i don't think your interpretation is wrong per se! just different :>

[@lounirs]

I've seen many people online thinking the same thing

[@doindaworst5824]

Oh interesting. The repetitive action is taken in a literal sense of desperately scooping your life physically back into your body. Imagine if it were a human with this interpretation instead of robot. Very interesting if not chilling.

[@Asaspecimenyesimextraoddinary]

@@doindaworst5824 morbid but fascinating

[@cynxmanga]

I like this interpretation

[@saberfang6329]

I’ve seen that robot on tik tok and hearing the screeching on the unoiled metal broke my heart. I may have never got to see it in person but it will never be forgotten. That Robot didn’t want to give up on trying. It kept trying till the end. I can have a lot of meaning even for people who struggle with depression

[@saberfang6329]

And I know I could be wrong on the meaning but I feel like it could have multiple meanings

[@grovecitysirens_GCS]

The screeching is actually just the motors. The motors aren't screeching but its just their motor sound

[@2fingacriminal]

its a robot dude

[@Cyyruzz]

@2fingacriminal it's a piece of interpretative art.

[@Royce1982]

😂😂😂

[@_foxpuppet]

I was lucky enough to see Old People's Home in person, and it was amazing. The chairs had sensors to keep them from running into each other or anyone viewing so you could walk among them. Watching these old men blunder around mindlessly, making it awkward to navigate the space they occupied, was very powerful to witness.

[@andrewhammons2993]

Eric?

[@bannedmann4469]

Lol powerful.

[@_foxpuppet]

@@andrewhammons2993 No, sorry

[@_foxpuppet]

@@bannedmann4469 ?¿

[@Scorch-Bad-Men]

@@bannedmann4469have you really lived yet?

[@alexandredesouza3692]

A tired robot, struggling to stay alive? A broken mind, picking up the pieces? An authoritarian state, trying to stop the bloody truth from escaping? A labored worker, dying of monotony? A machine preserving spoiled blood of its owner? Or doomed to do so, and fail? Does it replace a janitor, factory worker or a guardsman, a superfluous job or nothing at all? Or perhaps, something entirely different?

[@failsafe-ready_circuit]

"A tired robot, struggling to stay alive." Im just surviving in this society. "A broken mind, picking up pieces." I seem forgetful whatever I daydream. "An authoritarian state, trying to stop the bloody truth from escaping." I tried to lie because I was scared. "Or doomed to do so, and fail?" If I kill a person, His/her friends and family are involved. if I killed His/her family, The community is involved. if I destroyed the community, The Police is involved until I reached the level where the World's Governments are trying to wipe me out.

[@failsafe-ready_circuit]

I just can't, You wouldn't understand.

[@alexandredesouza3692]

@@redfo3009 Thank you!

[@lemon-414]

no :>

[@kr1tikalh1t92]

Since when did you turn into Shakespeare?

[@Sanctum8888]

Sisyphus in robot form. The constant cleaning was enough to complete the programming. One must imagine it happy.

[@SantiagoNguyen-vk3fo]

Nah Sisyphus fights the beast🗿

[@SHRIMPOU]

One must imagine "Cant help myself" cleaning all the liquid

[@childeofepickness]

One must imagine Can’t Help Myself happy…

[@firecat5279]

@@SantiagoNguyen-vk3fo a visitor?

[@uncannycato]

thats what he gets for making facebook ai slop

[@srbrant5391]

This is an SCP waiting to happen.

[@romk__kuzoma2169]

I am saving this vidoe just in case

[@defnotjaysen]

Lol fr

[@TheRealHand]

Fr

[@OG_ElGato]

I LITERALLY SAID THAT BEFORE THE VIDEO LMAO ☠️☠️

[@alek100001]

Are we cool yet?

[@CurtTheHero]

The thing about an art piece is that noone's interpretation is necessary wrong. It may not align with the creator's intention but the piece takes on a life of it's own when it's released and that's part of what makes it beautiful. There's this interesting futility that comes with trying to perfectly preserve a creators vision but people viewing it through their own lens of experiences and emotions is simply inevitable

[@AnonymooseWasMyName]

Interpretation doesn't matter. It's just a dumb term people who use expensive paintings to launder money made popular because it made the money they spent on the trash they bought more believable.

[@CurtTheHero]

@@AnonymooseWasMyName so it does matter. It served its purpose of laundering money. If you truly believe that it's fine but you dont have to like it to matter. Someone's interpretation of it brought them to the point of buying it. There is no inherent, measurable value in anything until someone wants it Now NFTs are certainly a racket. Maybe all art is. I dont really agree with that philosophy but I respect your opinion and can appreciate that it made you feel strongly enough to engage

[@TallicaMan1986]

I think when an artist comes out and saying what their art is about is when Interpretation should take a backseat. Art isn't About Us at all times meaning the viewer. Art isn't always a mirror in which you project your own ideas onto. Art is a window into someone else at times and If you relate to their ideas and journey yeah, but remember that is their voice, their journey and it's their unique intangible thing compelling them to do what they do. The way I see it. Sentimentality has it's place and it's time, but you must remember that subjectivity also has it's place and time. If a "dance" track has some lyrics about some dark topics, maybe it's not what you thought and your interpretation of it being dance was actually wrong and it being danceable was the only way to make it reach as many people as possible. Something like The Caretaker's Everywhere At The End of Time which is an album about the Stages of Alzheimer's. This isn't really open for interpretation. All you can really do is sit back and probably relate and Fear this illness and while everyone may have a different alzheimer story. The Art that was made is talking about Alzheimer's.

[@CurtTheHero]

@@TallicaMan1986 I agree that it does matter what the artist intended and for the artist it's absolutely an outlet for those ideas or feelings. But art outlives the creator and inevitably takes on a life of its own. You can't always ask the creator what it meant and part of the beauty is that people can derive what they want or what they feel from it. But even with the album you talk about that was explicitly about alzheimers is inevitably going to have people hear or see it through their lens. And it's more powerful to have a personal connection to something than to try and get it to fit in a box. Sure it's about alzheimers but there's no need to limit it's scope. Maybe someone heard it that has had a part go through a similar degenerative disease and they applied the album to that situation. It's great that they could find catharsis through the music regardless of intention ya know?

[@MyDearGhoul]

I always use this example when talking about the subject about interpretation an an artist's actual meaning: A fan met her favorite singer in a group setting at a tv interview and told her how a certain song got her through some very difficult situations in her life because of how she interpreted the meaning. However, the artist told her that the songs meaning was something completely different and apologized, officially removing any further meaning that girl would hold for that song. I personally feel this was the wrong move on the artists part. She did not need to crush that girls connection to something that she created. While I do agree that the personal reason for why they create their art is important, at that moment she could have simply let it go and allowed her to have her feel good moment and told her that the inspiration for the song was different but her interpretation is what is important and not tell her. That's just me though.

[@danser_theplayer01]

That wall of snakes and crabs is alive?! The guys are just straight up psychopaths.

[@jordanmoreno7481]

What part was the curtain

[@peopleyouforgot]

psychopaths and sadists are different

[@PyroGothNerd]

It's worse: they were intentionally starved to death

[@Zela_Night]

​@@jordanmoreno7481 3:06 the curtain of snakes an crustaceans are still alive.

[@_BubblGum_]

i am an animal lover myself and although it hurts to watch, its also genius in a sick and twisted way. i interpret as: these are animals that are taken from their land and eaten millions of times a day. people are fine with this because they don’t see the process, or don’t care about the emotions. but you make them struggle in front of the people and suddenly everyone cares. but the next day, they’re eating crab!

[@mooblerthomson9851]

Honestly this exhibit makes me think of a new employee, happy he got hired and eager to go above and beyond to impress his employer, later the monotony sets in and the realization that the employer doesn’t care and there’s no future at there job soon follows. Then they slow down depressed and just “going through the motions” to get a paycheck and survive until they retire old and not useful for cooperate exploitation or just as likely with increasing retirement age, they die.

[@Coco-bl8zg]

I really love your interpretation. This robot represents life. We are always exited and looking forward to it until we realize how depressing it actually is. Just doing jobs for other people to stay alive. I can relate to this poor robot so much and I'm only 17 lol. I want to give it a hug.

[@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell]

@@Coco-bl8zg if you think life is about doing jobs for other people so you can """"""""simply say alive"""""" I highly suggest you reflect on how you perceive the things around you, your necessities and the Other. You sad.

[@caymansharp623]

@@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell this is exactly what life is

[@Sheltur_0311]

@@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell what is there to do except live, what freedom do you have if you do not have the funds to do anything else

[@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell]

@@Sheltur_0311 Good points... the thing I'm trying to talk about is exerting the maximum of freedom you can whenever you can according to your own guidelines which are always changing and in relation to the external. Sure we end up in some cages along our lives, most of them in a daily basis, but still inside them we can Be. It doesn't have to suck that much is all I'm saying...

[@S0FIATH3MUPP3T]

I always saw it as representing someone with severe depression trying to keep themself together, and to keep hope in a way. I got this from the exhaustion and the bloodlike fluid color. It made me see the shutoff of the robot as the person finally losing hope and killing themself

[@skylarpeterson8798]

Yo I got a whole new image of that

[@Hand-to-handWombatCombat]

Same, although I see the shutoff more like a death caused by some other cause, like a car crash.

[@cheezicow8948]

Yes! thats how i saw it too. a person struggling so hard to keep things tidy, that in the end they make more of a mess and wear themself out.

[@Sawrunner.]

🗿

[@rickwilliams967]

Except the robots will kill us instead

[@jeni4288]

What truly pisses me off to no end (as someone who lives with a beautiful and chill corn snake) is how everyone is so angry over the dogs that were in no danger but almost no one bats an eyelash over the reptiles and crustaceans strung up and left to die. This is how things always are. The shit people tell me when I tell them I have a corn snake is ridiculous. If someone told me they had just gotten a new dog I wouldn’t tell them about how someone’s cousin’s uncle’s sister’s mother in law saw a dog in their yard earlier and beat it over the head until it died. Artistic my ass. Animal abuse is animal abuse.

[@idontcare1102]

exactly and justifying it as "art" is a cop-out

[@Mukyuify]

Both are bad

[@darksoals]

Yeah the curtain is disgusting and shows the artist has no regard or respect for life. Maybe that was the true artwork all along “vulgar demonstration of a budding psychopath”

[@rubyy.7374]

@@darksoals​​⁠​⁠ Those kinds of animals are commonly consumed in East Asia. Unfortunately simply just “food” is how a non-negligible portion of the population sees them, particularly the older generations, and they don’t see them as anything more like with dogs or cats. This is an unfortunate symptom of a culture that had only “developed” recently, when killing anything that moved for your next meal only dates a few generations back. China, relative to Korea and Japan, is the new kid on the block, so there are many people still alive who think this way. Hopefully this outdated mindset continues going the way of the dodo for the sake of these poor critters.

[@darksoals]

@@rubyy.7374 I don’t know how valid of an excuse this is. Chickens are regarded as food here on a “lower value” to cats and dogs, but it would still be absolutely appalling to the community in North America to have a display where they were strung up alive as a curtain. In China there’s a lot of Buddhist culture which regards all life as equal and requests balance with nature to obtain enlightenment. I’m not exactly sure how they can get away with this since such a large part of the community is supposedly following Buddhism and Buddhist values. Which an artwork like this absolutely violates. This isn’t hunting for food. This is causing small animals painful and slow deaths for the artist and viewers amusement. It’s inhumane torture disguised as art and there is no cultural loophole for it.

[@katietaylor8314]

A quote from my favourite TV show of all time springs to mind: "Isn't the point of art less what people put into it and more what they get out of it?"

[@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell]

nice quote. didn't hear that one before, loved it.

[@delbertamadeustan6932]

Ah bojack horseman, the show for the tormented, great show

[@BrodyLuv2]

Insufferable vapidity

[@georgejohnson-vu2zm]

WHEN YOU GIVE LITTLE , YOU DESERVE LITTLE .

[@biggiechungus784]

"You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around. *You turn yourself around*. *That's* what's it's all about."

[@leila13dnd]

The dogs that cannot touch each other was actually pretty tame in my opinion. The dogs get to run, their owners are there to intervene and a medical team in case something happens and the treadmills aren't motorized so accidents are less likely. Now the curtain of crustaceans and snakes? That unsettled me far more.

[@REC-L]

You just explained basically the daily lives of animals like pigs, cows in tight spaces with bare or even minimum amount of living space

[@Tser]

I'd completely agree with this except that they are dogs from dog fighting. "[S]cholar Meiling Cheng writes that the dogs were sourced from 'a provincial breeding and training institute for fighting dogs.' The animals were grandly transported to the site in eight separate limousines, with human trainers to keep them apart, because they were 'so territorial and violent toward each other.'" They're covered in scars because they've been used in dog fighting by their (disgusting) owners already; those are the people present to protect them, but obviously the health and wellbeing of the dogs is not something important to these people. They are bred to be genetically inclined to be aggressive towards other dogs and they've been trained to attack other dogs, so they are not running because they want to run. The thing is, these treadmills are already a training method for people who fight dogs. Other fighting dogs or bait dogs are used to incentivize the behavior. "Dogs that can't touch each other" happens every day in bloodsport facilities everywhere. Those treadmills weren't designed from scratch by the artists, they're the exact same type already used in dog training. I love installation art, and I totally can respect ready made objects as art when decontextualized, so my beef isn't with that. It's more that the whole thing feels *misleading*. So few people realize that these ARE fighting dogs that will live bloody, short, violent lives full of pain and abuse, and continue the cycle. So if the show was attempting to highlight the horrors of dog fighting, it didn't. Neither the museum's blurb nor the artist's statement mentioned this, but said something vague about people and "society at large". The dogs didn't earn a reprieve, they weren't removed from the situation. The museum even lied about why they were running. It's just... all around sketch. At first I thought it was harmless; dogs sometimes will run on non-mechanical treadmills on their own, just for the joy of running (and some cats will run on wheels, etc.); there are dog exercisers that have these treadmills in vans, and go to houses, and the dogs get *so* excited and run and leap up into the van and jump onto the treadmills ready to go for a run. There are some really cute videos of the mobile exercising on instagram and youtube and so on. But then I just kind of noticed that they were a bully breed, so I looked into it further. :/ On the other hand, literally *spearing live animals with wires through them* and hanging them up is unfathomable cruelty. It's so sadistic. When asked about it, the artist replied that they were going to be eaten anyway. But if they had been purchased by people to eat, they would not have been stabbed with a wire and hung from the ceiling to die an excruciating slow death. I am horrified by it, personally, just like all the other killing-animals-live-on-stage-for-art that has happened in Chinese modern "animalworks" art (they are far far far from the only people staging animal abuse and animal killing art). But there are a lot of cultural aspects and political import of these art pieces that I simply have no experience of, with extreme censorship and curation of art and speech by the government, and this has definitely arisen in a culture where anger and frustration can't be directed at those that prompt it. So I have to admit my ignorance and that I can't really judge the situation fairly. Wary of that art piece, "If I Died", that the video creator loves either, personally. It's absolutely stunning, and quite a beautiful concept... but a lot of those taxidermied birds are extremely endangered. It may be (hopefully) that they were captive animals that were collected after natural death (quite common in vulture culture art and something I see no problem with at all! though as demonstrated by these other art pieces, their lives before death may not have been that great). But because of the track record of these artists, I don't know. They may have been killed specifically for this piece (especially since there are SO MANY of them required at once for this piece), or (far less likely?) they were vintage taxidermy pieces that predate CITES export laws (many of those can't legally cross country borders of origin without a permit). Worst would be if they were illegally poached from the wild, and I'm hoping that's the least likely scenario, even though China does have a major problem with poached animal imports. I can't find any information on the source of the birds from the artists or museum.

[@rubyy.7374]

@@REC-L You just explained how you didn’t read the original comment

[@Roz4628]

The fact the dogs are 'encouraged' is weird.

[@glenmchargue5461]

​@@Tserthat puts so much more perspective on the dog piece, why didn't this creator explain that? It explains why people were upset... I was wondering about this too.

[@wumbumbaroo404]

The thing that strikes me the most is the fact the fluid looks a ton like hydraulic fluid which would be the fluid that normally allows a robot like that to move. Now im not sure if that’s what the fluid is or even if that type of robot uses it, but imagining if that robot had a leak and is frantically trying to push it all into a pile to where it can still use it makes it a hundred times more grim too me.

[@6764TLM]

The robot ran on electricity

[@Justin.P]

That's what I thought was trying to be conveyed at first also, whether it actually is or isn't, that's how I choose to see it and hits hard emotionally.

[@vespan.a4839]

That living curtain thing isn't even animal cruelty It's animal torture

[@TheLooneyGhost]

they are already dead

[@vespan.a4839]

@TheLooneyGhost they aren't, they were still alive as they were put on the curtain, that was part of the "art piece", that they were writhing and moving, therefore "living"

[@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647]

Time stamp? Seriously time stamp people

[@doindaworst5824]

I know it made me feel sick. I'm just... in shock. I understand the concept, the hypocrisy in how we as everyday consumers turn a blind eye to farms and restaurants. The piece illustrates it in such a way that it should disgust even the most unempathetic people should they see it in person. I see how it could perhaps illicit change in some people to be more conscious of animal rights... but the means of making this piece was henious and sick. These artists... are terrifying people. Truly horrible and disgusting what they did. Just... horrible.

[@vespan.a4839]

@@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 3:04 is where it starts

[@ElementalAer]

Came for the robot, discovered the Curtain... I'm disgusted, really. Torturing hundred of animals for art, isn't art, it's pure sadism and a crime. Oh my...

[@Zephirah]

Same, and totally agree.

[@BunnyKip]

It made me feel a terrible pain in my stomach, so sick. I know art is supposed to make you feel, but I don't know if I can love the two artists as much as I did now. I still love the robot, I can separate the art from the artist, but it really is terrible the curtain...

[@Myeko2190]

I am an artist and I absolutely adore modern art, and particularly things like their artworks. But this is too far... use robots, robotic dogs exist and it's not that hard to program one to run. This is gross.

[@davenic2471]

​@@Myeko2190The snake curtain was gross, but I don't have a problem with the dog one. Dogs love to run, no reason they can't run for an exhibit. Seems about as tasteful as putting a hamster in a plastic ball.

[@janemiettinen5176]

As an artist, I gotta say something. I may have a particular idea in mind when Im painting, but as soon as the piece leaves my studio, its open to interpreting. No interpretation is wrong, its up to you what you see, Im just the mirror holder. As long as Ive made you feel or think, Ive done my job. I think most artist think this way, but of course I cant be sure and Im certainly not talking on behalf this couple in question. Ive talked about this with my artsy friends from different fields (dancers, poets, painters, musicians, you name it) and we seem to have consensus, tho my polling pool is quite limited. Just thought I throw this out there; art can be intimidating and it shouldnt be, I hate it. Art is for everybody. Theres no wrong answers, whatever you experience is right.

[@thatonedrainedplatter5421]

Absolutely correct, Art is for interpretation. Some artists say how they want the piece to be seen which is alright but a lot leave it up to the viewers.

[@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell]

the more technical and flamboyant a piece gets, easier it is for its creator to forget what art is and make everything about them. It's a sad and pathetic behavior that at best deserves some well put laughs. After all, why get mad at something so pathetic?

[@Thalatash]

I am glad to hear you say that. I've always thought that but never said it as well. I always would say it's like a Rorschach test that tells just as much about you (the consumer) as the artist. It's funny, too, because with art, people can show their true colors, especially with what they are offended at. My favorite example is the moral panic over the Kingsmen song, "Louie, Louie." There are some nonsensical lyrics that were never meant to say anything, but people heard all sorts of things that they claimed were "perverted and sexual" lol. It keeps happening, too, so I think all the loudest of the "Morality Police" just have the dirtiest minds.

[@janemiettinen5176]

@@Thalatash I remember reading about it. Same thing happened with the bored housewives-board that gave us those parental advisory content stickers. I cherish the moment forever in my heart, when Dee Snider told Al Gore his wife has dirty mind; the song in question wasnt about S&M, but a throat operation. If you go and look for something dirty, you will find it, every single time. And Als face.. I really thought for a second his head was going to explode, priceless! Then there was the whole debacle of playing rock records backwards.. well before intentional back-masking was a thing. I guess these things will always pop up, always in the “wont someone think about the children”-context.

[@janemiettinen5176]

@@thatonedrainedplatter5421 I think the title of the piece is like guide, that points you to the direction the artist wanted. But if you see looming death in a painting called “Two girls picking wild flowers”, that is a ok too. To me the different explanations are exciting, form of mental richness. And trying to curb that freedom would be just silly.

[@carved_cuts]

Nobody gonna talk about the curtain? I was so disturbed that I looked it up, hoping to be wrong but I wasn't. As I feared, all those creatures were put there to starve, dry out and generally suffer a slow death. The artists wanted to show their dying struggles specifically. 400 kilograms of lobsters, 30 kilograms of eels, 30 kilograms of snakes, and 20 kilograms of bull frogs suffered to death for their "art." The only thing that was interesting to me about this, is that so many people were disturbed by the dog piece. Yet when anything that's not a cute fluffy mammal is strung up to suffer, till death finally ends it's misery, it's much less talked about. I'm not a fan of the dog piece myself, but it's nothing compared to the cruelty of the curtain. --- Edit: At the time of posting this comment, there were few talking about the curtain and I feel this video kinda glossed over the true horror of it. I also didn't see anyone having researched this more. Most commenters were just praising the artists. But I can't support them after the shit i've read, and I was wondering if anyone else felt the same. I've been trying to comment my source but KZbin is allergic to links, and keeps deleting it. Just search the names of the artists and "the curtain." You'll find a PDF about their animal pieces eventually. Further sources are listed in the document as well. --- Frequently used arguments: 1. But it got the point across. You are upset, and this was the artist's intention. Just because it's art and has a message to convey or emotion to envoke, doesn't make it okay. You can brutally kill a man, claim the corpse is art and make it a "critique on murder, meant to upset people." Will it convey the message? Yes. Will it upset people? Yes. Is it okay? No. This example is a crime, and should be treated as such. 2. The piece is a critique on how we treat these animals. You don't have to commit cruelty in order to artistically critique it. For example: a PSA about child abuse. The director can't legally make someone abuse a child on camera. So they use actors and implications to get the point across. 3. Dogs are more sentient than the creatures in the curtain. Yet the creatures in the curtain felt hunger, thirst, pain and fear, untill they finally died, all the same. A snake can't whimper and cry like a puppy, but that doesn't mean it can't feel pain. 4. Dogs are pets and therefore more important. Frogs and snakes are also kept as pets. Less common pets, but they are loved by their owners nonetheless. Lobsters and eels are usually kept in zoo aquariums, but there are people who keep them as a personal pet too. An animal doesn't need to be able to retrieve a ball to be considered a pet. 5. Millions of these animals die everyday for food. Millions of people die everyday too, yet murder is a crime. Yes we kill and eat these animals in mass but they can be killed humanely. We don't hang live food from the ceiling until it starves to death. This art piece is straight up, unnecessary cruelty. Wasteful too. They could have fed so many starving people with all this meat.

[@nicktallfox5266]

this comment made me realise what unempathetic, messed up difference it makes to count creatures by total mass. 400 kilograms of lobsters sounds fine, but imagine doing that with things like those "cute fluffy mammals". 300 kilograms of dogs, 250 pounds of cats. Imagine doing that with people, like, that might be one of the most dehumanizing things I've ever thought about. In all my morbid research i'm pretty sure victims of concentration camps were counted as individual humans even when being disposed of. I'm thinking about all this because i personally really like snakes, and think of them as possible pets, so reading "30 kilograms of snakes" instead of the actual number of snakes was jarring, and a bit eye opening as a whole.

[@carved_cuts]

@@nicktallfox5266 Same here. I couldn't find anywhere how many individuals were killed. only the weight of them combined. This whole thing in general is the most disturbing shit I've seen and it only gets worse the deeper you look into it.

[@spoon7053]

@@carved_cuts i genuinely have no clue how they sleep at night. It’s exponentially worse than the dog piece, which was questionable but still controlled. then again, people boil lobsters alive without a second thought, and nobody bats an eye.

[@desastrnarrations]

I'm really sad to find out they were all meant to suffer here and die. That isn't art, it's animal cruelty.

[@doindaworst5824]

It physically hurt me to look at it. I see their point but oh my god, to actually torture anything, to condemn these creatures like this to prove a point... these people are not ok. It's really sick.

[@bearintraining]

I love when you said red viscous liquid as vicious liquid it made me imagine the liquid being sentient and attacking the robot lol.

[@iconifyme]

I noticed that too. A serendipitous misstatement.

[@exosproudmamabear558]

The living curtain is straight out animal cruelty.They are just attached to the curtain alive thats just a line that should be not crossed in my opinion. Ethic is a important subject in art and science.There are multiple lines you shouldnt cross even it is means restricting artistic endeveours. Where those lines start and end is a question but there should be definitely some.

[@ah-sh9dw]

I think the line is that the subjects need to consent and something tells me those aninals did not consent. As far as I'm concerned the living curtain is as much an art piece as the black dahlia murder was. I wish animal abuse laws weren't so lax, had to hug my kitties extra tight after this video

[@exosproudmamabear558]

@@ah-sh9dw Even with consent you shouldnt torture someone to death.Even in bdsm if you torture someone to death you will be punished since even with consent it is murder

[@carved_cuts]

Thank you! I had to look away from it because it disturbed me so deeply. I feel sick. It's interesting how people cared about the dogs because, dogs. But nobody bats an eye when anything that's not a cute fluffy mammal is strung up alive, to suffer a slow death. I did research and they actually meant to show the dying struggles of these creatures. I looked it up because I so badly wanted to be wrong, but I wasn't. They were put there to suffer and slowly die.

[@exosproudmamabear558]

@@carved_cuts Oh God this makes it even worse.

[@ah-sh9dw]

@@exosproudmamabear558legally it probably depends on the country and circumstances, ethically it's way too complicated for me to express myself properly in a comment. I was thinking the human equivalent would be more like suspension but yeah, unlike those animals when people do it they don't just hang til they die

[@rileyf.838]

honestly, for the longest time, i thought it was about OCD and constantly trying to control a part of your surroundings that doesn’t really affect you until it destroyed you.

[@Someone-zn4dh]

It's art, you can interpret it as much as you want even if it is different from the artist own interpretation

[@Youareaidiot]

As someone with huge ocd symptoms I find this very interesting

[@TongueCutOutByYoutube]

​@@Someone-zn4dhlol that ain't art it's a robot

[@HelloHSR]

@@TongueCutOutByKZbin anything can be art wdym

[@Constantine_Cvl8]

​@@HelloHSRunfortunately

[@EPE77U]

When I first saw about this robot and it being "the saddest robot", my first honest reaction was that red liquid is supposed to be blood and this robot's job is to clean crime/accident scene which feels like pretty sad job to have. It's interesting how many different interpretations can this art piece cause

[@Foxy02016]

For me it’s war. The endless bloodshed, blood being replaced with more blood as lives are lost in a war that is going to end how it was always going to end, by sitting down and talking. It will ALWAYS end with the two sides talking, it’s just about the amount of lives taken in the time before it

[@EPE77U]

@@matos.3398 Different interpretation is now considered being slow? At least my head isn't growing a dick

[@detox3036]

When I read the title I immediately assumed you made a 20min video about the bot that hacked your channel.

[@deburke321]

That one would take at least an hour

[@boznsjbruhstudios6383]

​@Deburke321 can you make a video about it

[@spookychan7189]

Honestly I don't think it's bad for others to have there own interpretation of the piece. It isn't "Disrespecting" the artist's true point or message. I think the artist would want others to interpret the piece for themselves and have there own ideas about it. That's what art is, everyone has there OWN interpretation of the piece wether it's wrong or right to the artist's message.

[@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell]

You are absolutely right! The piece creators have every right to feel that a particular interpretation is indeed disrespectful, but still, that's what art is for. Discussion, arguments, ideas, interpretations. The Process.

[@clyne8835]

As an artist: if someone doesn't tell me their unique interpretation of my art that is entirely different from my original intention I will die. I need that shit to live it's like cocaine to my bloodstream

[@MySelfMyCeliumMyCell]

@@clyne8835 I totally get you and thats actually quite wonderful. You thus enable mirrors into people's minds. Evoking and inviting them. Thank you. Keep on keepin on.

[@genericname2747]

​@@clyne8835 I love the way you chose to describe this

[@clyne8835]

@@genericname2747 thank you I only speak my pure unfiltered truth

[@languid-4535]

My heart broke after realizing that the “living curtain” was actually live animals, in the video the person said live curtain but I thought that because they were once alive but.. hanging animals, impaling them, watching them die and calling it art? What the hell everyone is so upset at the “abuse” of the dogs and I’m not for that either but you talk like they’re murdering the dogs when they are ACTUALLY torturing animals until they die, the most slow painful death. I don’t care if you don’t like these types of animals personally I am very attached to reptiles and I just like seeing different types of animals, even if you are afraid or angry with these animals existence, to watch them die so slowly and just act like it’s nothing many people say it’s gross but not because it is disgusting that these humans did this, but because these animals “are gross”. The robot piece is so amazing as well as “if I die” but I can never think highly of them again after realizing what they really did to those animals. I’m sorry if I’ve been rude or upset anyone it’s fine if you have a different opinion than me but under no circumstances should anyone encourage or applaud animal abuse. Personally this really upset me not in a way where I’m gonna scream at anyone but just a way that ruins my day and fills me with disgust. So I apologize if I said anything rude, but you didn’t have to read this. Please be respectful, thank you have a lovely day.

[@itslullas]

You really went on a giant rant there, but I agree with your point. I have no respect for these people. It's like they just do whatever tf they feel like, make up some grand 'meaning' to justify their shitty behavior and then claim freedom of artistic expression. Absolutely deranged if you ask me. I'm not even offended, just pissed off by this thinly-veiled excuse for being pretentious narcissists.

[@languid-4535]

@@itslullas yeah my bad got a bit carried away, but yeah it’s just infuriating and really sad

[@CEBthunder]

Honestly you are right, there is no justification for what they did, and yet some still like them

[@kisko327]

I will never understand the "modern art". These so called artists just do whatever they want even if it's sticking a banana onto a wall and people are still viewing it as art. This curtain is disgusting and those people should face some consequences.

[@_BubblGum_]

yet the same people complaining have eaten thousands of animals who suffered similar ways and don’t bat an eye.

[@ah-sh9dw]

I feel so bad for those snakes. That's some vlad the impaler shit there

[@desastrnarrations]

That's what I was thinking. It's good the dogs had their owners there, and other pieces were just use of the dead (whether or not someone agrees or disagrees it is okay, we can agree there was no living things suffering in those cases). But the snakes were still very much alive and the disregard for them makes me sad. I hope it's just a case of snakes hanging out there after being put there as opposed to writhing and being uncomfortable/in pain. Edit: Nope my hopes are wrong. After looking through other comments, the snakes and frogs and eels (I think I got all three ) were meant to be displayed dying a slow death. That's pure evil. Edit 2: Given some idiots are trying to twist my words, I'll say I initially thought the dogs were just pets being watched by owners running on treadmills. The video was misleading. I didn't know the full context - obviously I am completely against dog fighting and them hurting each other, that's just as horrible. I can't believe I even had to say that, but people apparently can't see context clues these days.

[@doindaworst5824]

@ah I was thinking it had to be something like that. Something that would be scary and shocking to see and be around. I've been mauled, dogs are very powerful animals and could of killed each other or a bystander. (I still love dogs and think they are inherently good)

[@ah-sh9dw]

@@desastrnarrations yeah, the video was kind of vague and that made everything seem better than it was. I did some googling and even the dog thing was a lot worse than the impression I got. They were actual fighting dogs trying to maul each other and were visibly distressed Also sorry about redoing this reply so many times. Turns out I'm really bad at checking for typos

[@desastrnarrations]

@@ah-sh9dw No worries at all. Also yeah I'm sort of disappointed how much the video downplayed it, because I figured (and wrongly hoped) it was this: The snakes were hanging out on the vines to be given back to their owners if they were pets following that, snakes sometimes hang out and such, which would be fine if they were not stressed and there temporarily. Big nope... gods it's horrible, they were meant to be dying there. Also the fact the the dogs were in a way worse situation also breaks my heart, that was also downplayed as well in that case. Had to edit cause I reread what you said, and wow. That is WAYYYY Worse than what I was led to believe regarding the dogs. I thought they were just pets running on treadmills, that is evil as well.

[@jebbsredemption]

@@desastrnarrations So you'd rather the dogs be brutally mauling eachother in pain. Sounds really moral to me..

[@birb2330]

The Living Curtain reminds me of some forgotten work by Dante related to his work, It's a hellish sight and a terrible torture! Imagine people Tied together and hung in such a curtain to starve to death, And the only thing that will be remembered after them is their total weight, not even a number.

[@doindaworst5824]

So horrible and very very sad

[@darianstarfrog]

​@@doindaworst5824 they were already dead

[@doindaworst5824]

Just did the research and found that not only were they alive, but that these two have produced even more works of animal cruelty not mentioned in the video. Theater of the world is another example.

[@mobotman6930]

theater of the world is a different artist

[@doindaworst5824]

@Mobotman I think you're actually right. I'm going back over the sites I was at, and I think that installation is by Huang Yong Ping, while the wall artists are Sun Yuan and Peng Yu. I had lumped the exhibit with Sun and Peng Yu because the article mentions the exhibit in a list of cruel exhibits and I assumed they were all by the original artists. I'm now learning that there's several artists who show little to no empathy towards animals. They're just tools to these people.

[@Lyzi.B]

This is the beautiful thing about art. It's subjective to the people viewing it. An artist can design a piece, sculpture, or a painting with a specific idea and story in mind. Once that piece of art enters the public the idea or concept might not resonate equally, or at all. Two separate people can view the same piece and both can have completely different feelings and ideas about that piece. Neither perspective is right or wrong, even if it differs from the creator. Art is meant to invoke feelings and make us think. The artist can attempt to control or create a narrative surrounding the art, but it's inevitably variable based on our own perception and consciousness. It's always subjective. Even if two people are present for an event or share an experience they'll still have different feelings and ideas about it in the end. Their perception of the exact same thing might not be anything alike. It's human nature and human experience that determines how an art piece makes us feel and what we take away from that experience with it. Imo that's amazing and beautiful. I love hearing different opinions on the same piece or exhibit.. It forces me to think outside my own ideas and comfort zone.

[@pump-kin]

Dude, this hits all of my favorite things I’ve seen in art! Psychological concepts, robotics, and a sense of helplessness and personification. I love this so dearly, and I would trade the world to be able to watch it work.

[@anonomooose]

This is the kind of piece that means something different for every viewer. To me, it reflects struggles with mental health. Trying desperately to keep itself contained, dancing to show that’s it’s ok to those who care. Becoming more tired as years of its struggle have worn it down. Sometimes you need to ask for help. It’s not a sign of weakness. Sometimes you truly can’t help yourself

[@youwantmyname9208]

I think what makes Cant help myself robot so special is, We are the machine. It somehow reflects on us. People thought we're just sympathising on the robot, but what makes us really emotional for the robot is because this does happens, and its very common

[@maggoteaterr]

perfectly said

[@jordanmoreno7481]

How come they can't draw hands perfectly? I am sad​@@maggoteaterr

[@dragonf1recdn]

Seems like the robot is a metaphor for how we're all doomed to work for others until the day we die.

[@BlazinBoomsy]

5:02 I'm sorry, but there is a clear difference between art and animal abuse.

[@QuakeGamerROTMG]

Animals die all day every day to support your lifestyle, their art piece isn't even a drop in the bucket in regards to animal suffering but it manages to get so many people talking about it I don't even really like that they did it or agree with it, but it's a bit weird to act like this one art piece is evil when the house you live in necessitated the deaths of hundreds or maybe thousands of animals clearing the land and getting the building materials to make it. Not to mention the electricity you use every day and the food you eat.

[@circle4602]

​@@QuakeGamerROTMG to be fair, no one's making rows of animals run on treadmills until they die, and most of the time an animal dies for food, it's done as painless as possible

[@trighyjock5415]

Sir, I have sad news. Did you ever heard about dog fights?

[@1unartic]

@@circle4602 this, the thing here though as well is that people need to stop supporting corporation that DO make environmental harm and animal abuse to their products. I’m personally a Locavore, there is respect in the people I talk to that butcher their own animals, this (the snake wall) is not respect at all. The problem isn’t our diet, it’s the people behind the product for our diet that we choose to continue to support. People who support vegan animal rights yet also support corporations not local to them is hypocritical to their statement. It should be ignored.

[@clownworld4655]

@@QuakeGamerROTMG there is a massive difference between killing animals to eat or harvest something from them and stringing them up on a wall just for fun. The fact that you can’t see that difference is concerning

[@Eeveepeasy23sy]

as many people have said in the comments I really do not like the living curtain, the idea that they could do that to those animals. the dogs had their owners on standby and a medical team the point was not to torture them. but the living curtain was a bunch of scared defenseless animals tied up and left to struggle, starve to death, and dry out, just because its not fluffy doesn't mean its not still a living creature, i hate how they could just decide to tie up hundreds of thousands off beautiful creatures like this to die, I have no problem with art but there are so many better ways to do it then this, animal abuse isn't art, their other pieces are great but I can understand why they are controversial

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

The saddest robot is the one that hacked your channel the other day 💀💀

[@PEPPERslim_]

Im sorry i thought itd be funny, it was a goof my guy

[@cutecatsara123]

Oof

[@SewerRat_00]

😂

[@TheGumbyGuy]

@PEPPERslim were you actually the one who did it?

[@stormah]

@@TheGumbyGuy probably not

[@justaguynamedwill3009]

Imagine donating your body to science and then your fat is turned into a pillar 💀

[@ivanalves8506]

At least you'll be useful even after death

[@Gusenichka925]

​@@ivanalves8506 useful? You would expect to have your body be used for testing something that can be used to help humanity as a whole, not to be a pillar

[@ivanalves8506]

@@Gusenichka925 it depends on who you ask but its better than becoming dust 7ft deep

[@RongDMemer]

​@@ivanalves8506true but still useless

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

​@@ivanalves8506how is that actually useful?

[@pnghumor]

The interpretation for OCD really works, but this first struck me as being about Dementia. Dementia essentially has you doing the same things every day, clinging onto what little memories you have, without even being aware of it, meanwhile it makes your health worse and worse every single day.

[@sebastianbass946]

9:48 He said “vicious” (deliberately cruel or violent) instead of “viscous” (sticky or resistive to flow). The liquid is actually the latter.

[@yeethittter1285]

Insane to me how ppl reacted to the Living Curtain vs Dogs Who Can't Touch Each Other. So many animals dying in pain for the sake of art is just a bit shocking, but making some dogs run is an outrage? Not even treated individually, just by how much they weigh in total. I guess if it's not cute and fluffy it doesn't matter 😐😐😐

[@spicymeatballs2thespicening]

As a reptile lover I fucking hate people who are like that, you'd expect children to think that way

[@JurassicGlitchy]

I get chills seeing all the comments praising the artists for the robot and their ‘unorthodox methods’ while disregarding everything they did to animals in other works. Complimenting the artists on their methods only further encourages them to use unethical methods of doing their art.

[@yeethittter1285]

@@JurassicGlitchy I like most of their art and how they experiment with stuff most artists wouldn't. But actual deaths are the line that should not be crossed

[@BennyLlama39]

To my way of thinking, furry vs. non-furry is irrelevant. BOTH those pieces should've been pulled, and the "artists" exterminated on the spot.

[@littlehorn0063]

You wouldn't be better than them if you killed these two people. I'd argue you'd be worse since there isn't any planned ritual before the murder. Connect to Ninush or at least Gro-goroth before killing anybody. Animals are biological automata, so killing them, the ones with less sentience (hope I spelled right), is less bad than killing more capable humans, even from pragmatic sense.

[@Commedeshommes]

“Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable”

[@kaeson359]

Damn dude, nice work. I honestly had no idea this existed before this video but wow, what a great topic to cover. For me, when I look at this robot, and hear the story behind it, I do feel sadness. Machines are built by us, they exist to fulfill functions laid out by our programming. Even AI has to be fed information, it must be supplied with elements of humanity in order to imitate what we want. To me, this piece answers the question...what does a machine do in the absence of humanity? This machine was created to fulfill a function: "clean up this mess and dance for the humans." But then its creators abandoned it. It continued to do what it was programmed to do, but without humanity to clean its parts, reset its programs, repair its defects, etc., it just couldn't do it anymore. It was an orphan in a cage doing the only thing it knew how to do. Its hard not to personify the robot, even if it is just executing code. We're watching it die in real time, metaphorically speaking, while trying to do what it thinks its supposed to. Maybe its about authoritarianism, maybe its about monotony in the workforce, maybe its about how God abandoned his children, I don't really know. But art is subjective, and this piece makes me personally feel sad, and curious, and above all else...lonely. I love it.

[@sunseiko]

thank you for bringing this piece and these artists to my attention. Fantastic video, well worth the struggles you went through to push it out

[@deburke321]

Thank you very much I really appreciate it!

[@sleepynova4840]

they are also horrible people. they strung up thousands of live animals, restrained them, and left them to starve

[@Thisguy2736]

​@sleepynova4840 so you can admire the message of the art without liking the artist besides their goal was to get people to hate them

[@pieterlindeque7798]

The machine doesn't feel anything. It's simply entropy at work. A breakdown of parts and circuits over time. No different from a large rock being eroded into a pebble over many years.

[@taylormademyself89]

First time I feel bad for a robot not in a movie 😅

[@Facklewhore]

You shouldn't. It's a machine

[@darianstarfrog]

​@@Facklewhore a dangerous p.o.v.. used through history to horrible effect, this is how genocide happens.. careful

[@wahtx7717]

​@@Facklewhore so are we

[@Emmanuel5280th]

​​@@Facklewhore Well that's a problematic thing to say 🤷. Just because it's not human and stuff doesn't mean you shouldn't sympathize with it. Also AI going rogue mostly happening in Skynet scenarios is from paranoia and hatred/no care for it. Humans are not much different from machines, your DNA is your code. Too much or lack of emotions is pretty bad.

[@Facklewhore]

@@Emmanuel5280th I understand if it's a dog or something but you're feeling bad for a machine that has no feelings or emotions? That is just stupid honestly.

[@Mini3x3]

Imagine how cool it would have been if the robot pushed all the liquid away from itself in an act of protest on the final day.

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

But it doesn't protest, it's a machine.

[@BuffaIowings16]

@@sinisterthoughts2896”imagine”

[@roastedscorpion]

I've looked all over and seen all kinds of content covering this subject, and your video is the most informative and thorough that I've found as of yet. I just wanted to thank you for covering it. Well done!

[@rgb3234]

This is an amazing study; thank you for taking the time to make this video! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it through and through.

[@malirabbit6228]

Perhaps we could have an exhibition of people inside cages reaching through the bars for food?

[@ChesireHeart]

Uh yeah.... That's called a human zoo. You should actually gather info and think about the stuff you say before you say it

[@DesignThinkerer]

@@ChesireHeart I believe Mali was sarcastic and referencing the curtain of lobsters that were left to starve until death. These artists have very poor taste tbh, there are tons of other way to display death/animal cruelty without actively being part of the problem.

[@Hhuhater]

@@DesignThinkererim not disagreeing with in in any way, but I think the artist wanted you to hate them for it, they wanted you to think they were disgusting. Why? There are a plethora of possible reasons. Maybe they wanted such a primal and strong feeling of disgust or hate to surface. Maybe they wanted to make you mad at them, because they are human too. Were they saying “we are the problem”? Not we as in the two artist but we as in the human race. Its a horrible and disgusting thing and I hate to say it but I think that was the point.

[@EmeraldEthanMiner]

@@Hhuhater miles, chill bro. You need to take a break from this video. Eat some cookies or whatever.

[@Sarawarawara-]

@@Hhuhater They did not, they react negatively to backlash and justify themselves with the idea that they would have probably been eaten or just the mere fact that they would have died anyways

[@Dr.TaxEvasion]

“What is my purpose?” “To scoop a blood looking substance” “Oh my god”

[@nerida3347]

tying together living snakes seems a bit cruel.

[@sazzycool]

'a bit'? It's downright cruel

[@AndrewSmith-qw5kt]

If the snake could, they would tie us up and string us up too!

[@Killthefish]

@@AndrewSmith-qw5kt so it's ok to string up 30 snakes until they starve or suffocate for some dumb ass "art"

[@AndrewSmith-qw5kt]

@@Killthefish Whatever! And coming from a person named kill the fish!! Hypocrite!!

[@nerida3347]

@Heinrich Himmler that's what I meant, getting tone across on the internet is a bit hard though, heh

[@YourPalKindred]

In regards to the piece featuring the dogs, I think as long as the dogs aren't being harmed and the owners are consenting to it then there is no harm being done. Some of the dogs may even enjoy the exercise, I know my dog enjoyed running whenever she could. I also cried viewing "If I die". It is so beautiful and somber.

[@mobotman6930]

The dogs were fighting dogs that had been bred/raised to attack each other (dog fights are a thing). (from an interview with the artist)

[@YourPalKindred]

@@mobotman6930 Ok, with that additional context I no longer think its okay

[@Lordzilla]

it wasn't never okay this way more messaged than you think people here need to research before opening their clueless mouths

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

The owners consent has absolutely nothing to do with their well being to be fair, only to the legality since they are property. It still causes duress in the dogs, which is still bad.

[@wondernexus3d482]

@lordzilla are you vegan?

[@elijahbates9643]

I honestly feel like this would be what would be in the mind of a murderer, sleepless nights, trying to continually wash the blood away, feels like I'm watching a serial killer documentary..

[@clownworld4655]

As a snake breeder that reptile “wall” pisses me off. I have no problem with killing and eating animals, but that’s just messed up

[@xbox360hurley4]

Glad you're back and survived the hacking. Great video 🙏

[@YippingFox]

As a technician, I can't help but feel they didn't follow the maintenance schedule of the manufacturer.

[@nyct0phile]

literally will NEVER get over this robot. i see myself in it more than any other piece of art i have ever seen

You'll get over it.

[@-Spring-Trap-]

@get over something that you can deeply relate to? Yeah right

[@-Spring-Trap-]

@keep dreaming

[@doindaworst5824]

That living wall. It's so horrible, I hate that they did that, I hate it. I understand it though, and feel humbled by it, as well as disgusted. I wish they hadn't done it. Dang.

[@darianstarfrog]

They were already dead

[@doindaworst5824]

@Darian Starfrog I just Google myself and while it's tough to find the truth, unfortunately these animals were alive. The point of the exhibit was to show the hypocrisy but the artist actually expressed disdain for her audience asking, 'why do yall even care, these animals would of probably been eaten'

[@chief_mourner]

​@@darianstarfrog did you even watch the video? They are so clearly writhing around.

[@scn_thedog]

​@@doindaworst5824 Another thing is that the artists didn't adress how many animals were "used". They only adressed the weight of all them together. I find it beyond terrifying that they don't even acknowledge the animals as individuals, just as another prop to use for their own self-gain…

[@Hhuhater]

I think that they wanted you to feel that way

[@CertifiedSTooped]

Humanity is alive. Paint is fuel. Room is full.

[@TC-rv6sz]

Hi, does anyone know if the robot's gradual slowing down/breaking down was programmed from the start or if it is just really is from wear and tear/the robotics getting clogged up over the years? As a long-term exhibition (3 yrs), it would be eerie and interesting if it was actually programmed to slow down since that meant that earlier viewers of the exhibition were intended to have a quite different experience of the piece if they were to ever revisit it years later.

[@samuraijackson241]

I would like to think that the slowing down is just from wear and tear, and it was intentionally left unattended to make it gradually slow down, to fit the intention of the artists.

[@star_mxlk_]

This piece gave me a large sense of ocd, tired but a perfectionist. Getting more and more tired through the repeated action of trying to make everything the exact way you want. Like the title of the piece, it(or you), cant help yourself but keep trying abd trying no matter how hard abd exhaustion the action becomes until someone else tells you its been enough- and you're dragged away from having to continue this meaningless and repetitive actions that's only brought you so little joy.

[@erod7316]

One must imagine robot happy

[@Kekatronic]

They went to far making a wall of living animals, those people are actual sociopaths

[@darianstarfrog]

They were dead already

[@ColdNorth0628]

@@darianstarfrog false. You can see on the top end in the video a animal writhe and jump

[@Lordzilla]

Frog is lying

[@goliathcraft6571]

​@@darianstarfrog 3:50 .

[@BaHkoE]

How about the pillar made of human fat?! They are PSYCHOPATHS 😬

[@nerdypenguin9164]

I can't pinpoint exactly why, but this piece inspired genuine fear in me. Maybe because I see myself in the movement of the arm, the slight uncanny valley nature of its dancing (again, just what i feel when i see it) and performing. The complete state of depression by the end, just struggling to do what its meant to. And it instills fear in me. Beautiful amd haunting.

[@sekiezkogg]

The substance also strongly resembles blood when it's pooled across surfaces, especially in grand quantities

[@seacrystal6189]

An interpretation I haven't seen despite thinking it would be very popular is that this work represents self-harm. "Can't help myself" can also be read as "I just can't resist". The arm looks a lot like a razor and it believes that it's doing something to solve a problem but is just causing blood to go in a different direction. The same way that hurting yourself will make you feel better temporarily, only to hurt you more in the long run. In the end, self-harm will only result in an urge for more severe self-harm, in this context meaning, more and more blood will spill while it gets harder and harder to clean it I also love the interpretation that it represents the menial tasks and soulcrushing jobs we need to do every day in order to survive. I also believe it can be aplied to drug addiction, and pretty much every addiction really Either way, I feel like most interpretations will be a variation of "doing work that has no payoff". Sort of like a modern myth of Sisyphus

[@OJSIMPSOM]

there's no excuse to torture snakes and other animals.

[@Lordzilla]

🙏

[@Keep_slaying232]

TRUE- I feel so bad

[@cutiemeowie8352]

You and so called animal lovers can't tolerate other people torturing animals but you people like eat animals to fill your tummy

[@error-try-again-later]

Inb4 "but it's just a snake" 🙄

[@Chamomile369]

I don't think the snakes were tortured?? The dogs kinda were though, depending on how long they were made to run

[@Qimchiy]

Welcome back! Through thick and thin it's nice to see you back!

[@wyattpielow2065]

I despise how a lot of people tend to put down and deject how others interpret works of art, in my mind art is somethings thats made to be seen from as many angles as possible and interpreted in whatever way it speaks to you.

[@Everfalling]

that first post that went around bugged the hell out of me because of how it was worded as a claim of fact in what the robot was meant to be doing and how it worked physically. if it had been framed as the persons perception of the work and their own take on its movements it would have been a great piece to read. I donno i just hate when people take things and confidently misrepresent them and cause millions of people to learn about something within a context that isn't real.

[@Twiddle_things]

The curtain is proof of us being the evillest creatures alive. No level of "art" will express my disgust towards this duo for that fucking atrocity.

[@ivanalves8506]

And How people got more upset over the dog one compared to the curtain

[@arcturus4762]

​@@ivanalves8506 I've thought about this before. I eat both guinea pigs and octopi. It's my culture and I've done it my whole life. But people get horrified when they find out about the guinea pig but a lot are unphased by the octopus. Then again, eating a hairy little animal is more disturbing than eating this lovecraftian slimy floating thing with tentacles, an alien-like head, and suckers?

[@rubyy.7374]

@@arcturus4762 I’m a lifelong guinea pig owner but I’m not going to ignore the fact that they were originally domesticated to serve as livestock. And besides, I’d prefer them as food over being unethically experimented on any day.

[@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad]

​@@arcturus4762 Because Humans loves to sympathy with things that looks "Cute" ans puah ugly things aside.

[@lucas_19486-Intruder]

not funny@@mogusamoggus-4112

[@goob-cr6yq]

Absolutely subscribed. I have never heard of this piece of art before, but I'm so happy that you are the one that introduced it to me. I felt like crying during a good part of this video, but I would never take back clicking on it. Thank you

[@lelduck6388]

Making “the curtain” was an evil act. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t art, that it doesn’t have a message, it means that its creation was evil. If it was meant to show how we disregard those animal’s lives it fails at the for the same reason that “Cuties” failed, it’s hypocritical and it does exactly what it’s meant to protest against. It actually does worse because those animals died for no tangible reason. They didn’t die for food, it wasn’t an accident or it wasn’t because they were in the way. It was because the artists wanted to get a message across, which they could’ve done without causing needless suffering. They could’ve made a painting, a sculpture or waited for technological advances to use animatronics. It should’ve never been made, at least not with live animals with their suffering the point of the piece.

[@Lordzilla]

It ain't art maybe they should use you to make you're so called "art"

[@spicymeatballs2thespicening]

@@Lordzilla he's literally agreeing that it was evil and should not have been created

[@viv_twins3460]

I’m sorry, but I wish to put a few words into this. I don’t really agree with what you said, living rats and animals in experiment labs are experimented on for more breakthroughs and ways to cure diseases in our society no? Scientists don’t really experiment on dead corpse of animals much because there’s really no impact or benefit. So like how most people experiment on animals and not dead animals for result, the way Sun Yuan and Peng Yu hanged the living insects to die isn’t really useless, it was actually impactful and memorial. If they used already dead corpses there wouldn’t be as much of a attention to the insects anyway, so in a way it was actually not useless. It gathered more emotions and attention to it. Plus, have you considered the living organism you killed? Is there really a difference between the insects you killed and the insects in the video that are dying? I don’t really think so to be honest, so I can’t really seem to see your perspective on how your so up and high about it, but this is just my opinion due to my perspective on the world. 😅

[@jordanmoreno7481]

​@@spicymeatballs2thespiceninghey what part did he talked about the curtain

[@emmarina3525]

Everything they do and their attitude towards art disgusts me, seriously, art is about expression, not torturing animals. She says the animals being tortured represent our struggle, but she has absolutely no right to say that when she's the one putting them in that situation when she had all the chances to let them live a good life. It's a disgusting attitude towards art and has no real regard for life or the ethics of the work on it. At least people paint with their own blood to make a statement

[@darianstarfrog]

They were dead, the dogs had fun

[@pigwhaleg]

@@darianstarfrog they were alive, the dogs were fighting dogs.

[@Lordzilla]

@@darianstarfrog you should be treated like that then let's see if you will keep being ignorant

[@error-try-again-later]

She clearly doesn't understand (or care) about her own message. Of course the clout-chasing sociopaths of the art world think watching something die for a few hours is peak art 💀

[@nguyenlequangdinh5528]

​@@darianstarfrog as seen in the video most of them died but there were some frog trying to free them self and a snake body moved on it own for a bit

[@Kakashi_Senseiofficial]

"I have no mouth and i must scream" ahh robot

[@UnkNwN334]

Does the liquid resembling blood have any significance? Loved the vid

[@jamiecurran3544]

It's 100% blood!😳 it even congealed n turned brownish black looking over time!🤢😁✌️

[@lilibear3561]

It's some kind of oil that just reddened with age. Definitely not blood, blood dries and congeals. Wouldn't last more than a few days if it was blood

[@jamiecurran3544]

@@lilibear3561 it did look congealed in places maybe it was some kind of oil however we all know it was supposed to represent blood!😁✌️

[@icefeatherchan]

The fact they murdered tons of animals for their previous exhibitions and they just "can't help themselves". This comment is a joke interpretation, their "art" is animal torture.

[@jamiecurran3544]

@@icefeatherchan you're not wrong though!😁✌️

[@Topikkaperna]

i think that by "cant help myself" they meant that people work happily when they are young but when they work for a long time, they get dull. that working sucks the life of people.

[@ps4lm10]

Everyone: Saddest robot on earth Me: *One must imagine sisyphus happy*

[@HomingVibe]

When art displays monotony better than monotony itself

[@UncannilyAdroit]

I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with their art because of the baby ones... Initially, I was just kind of annoyed? Because I love shock art but it felt like there was no reason for it so it was just violence and shock without a point. But then the more I would look at the various pieces in action, from different angles, etc, I was able to draw my own conclusions and relate it to my life, regardless of what they say the piece represents. In my opinion, that's what art does! I try to be open minded as an artist myself, but my initiAl discomfort sort of jaded me when like... That's the whole point

[@CidCDdrafts]

The dogs be like "Imma touch you lil bro" 💀

[@dustbowlhammer7119]

Interesting artwork, as a factory worker, that uses robots like these on a daily basis, I can say that the robot's do not feel or even think, they move and do exactly what they are programmed to do until they wear out, even if that takes years and years, while getting dirty, and even the paint starts to come off after awile. Could be a metaphor for labor in general.

[@justacommenterno.7700]

Truly one of the art pieces that resonated deep within me the most is this. Just mentioning its name is enough for me to feel something. My interpretation: To be short and brief, in my own interpretation, the robot was also imitating the tragedy of a person who says that they're fine even tho they clearly are not. Ones who don't reach out to others and seek help since they're confident that they can handle it on their own therefore isolating themselves. The robot's animation can be interpreted as a way that people to convince someone that they're fine. The leak can be interpreted as them slowly falling apart, slowly getting worse. The robot sweeping the leak to itself can be presented as someone who tries to fix themselves, a desperate way to pull themselves back together. The border, even tho it is meant for security reasons, can also signify the border that a person has created between them and the people around them.

[@hedgergd]

This is the robot we should be scared of it becoming sentient

[@ShianVideos]

This can be boiled down to the concept of "Death of the Author" (is the Birth of the Reader)--basically, once a work is produced, the author "dies" and the viewer takes the reigns of how the work is interpreted. They take their own personal experience, society and culture and view the work in their personalised frame of reference. For someone with haemophilia (blood doesn't clot), this work might conjure up the emotions of a time that they sustained a major injury and couldn't stop the bleeding. This is somewhat unlikely to be the authors' intent, but who, including the author, has the right to devalue a person's experience and emotions when viewing art?

[@Hbnyg]

The SR-1 easily had one of the most brutal robot “deaths” ever, it was sent to Chernobyl where it literally died from the radiation whilst cleaning the reactors roof

[@maesaliva]

Wall-e but worse

[@G0of_Ball]

15:04 to the tweet, My friend it’s called Personification, the movement tells us how it’s feeling and the action it does is what the “robot thinks”, also many people see it in many different ways, just because YOU see it as lifeless and that we are just dramatic, doesn’t mean you are the Genius of the thread.

[@tereza1959]

The fun part about art is that every person looking at it has a different reaction and interpretation and all of them are valid

[@Jack_Woods]

Ok the curtain isn't even worth being treated as art, that's just animal torture.

[@MaxwellSimpson-k7i]

Great video! This comment section is great. I love how art really brings out different interpretations and a form of relatability and comfort.’ Filled with positive people sharing their opinions, you have a great fan base man.

[@scribblecloud]

so... they literally strung up living animals on a wall for days slowly letting them die? wtf

[@Gnomereginam]

Kinda mad that when living creatures are strung up on a curtain ppl are just shocked but when dogs have to run a bit it's a global outrage 🤦 edit: nvm they're dead on the curtain, still very sus from a humane perspective but damn. If you're gonna whine about ppl getting facts wrong at least make sure you don't do the same thing edit 2: nvm, SOME of them are most likely dead and SOME are alive on the curtain. Help I'm confused

[@ΈκτοραςΕλευθεριάδης]

They weren't living. The tv reporter calling it a living wall was a complete inaccuracy the creatures were already dead when the art-piece was both created and revealed.

[@doindaworst5824]

​@Έκτορας Ελευθεριάδης I really hope you're right... but if they were dead it would defeat the purpose of the art piece. Seeing a bunch of food strung up is different than seeing living animals struggling and dying...

[@Gnomereginam]

@@ΈκτοραςΕλευθεριάδης You're right. Man, the fact that this guy was whining about other people getting basic details wrong and then didn't do his own research properly pisses me off.

[@doindaworst5824]

@Gnome Reginam I did do my own research after all the back and forth. I really really wanted them to already be dead, though that's still questionable. However after alot of digging, not only were they alive, but the artists actively expressed irritation at how poorly received the exhibit was because they saw it as the same as eating them.

[@guarddoggo]

@@ΈκτοραςΕλευθεριάδης not true, you can see a frog moving in around 3:48 around the top left area.

[@seriouspotato_420]

I don't really know what this piece actually means , but to me it felt like a person who was trying his hardest to keep his life in order, but no matter how hard he tried. he couldn't keep everything under control and kept losing stuff closest or dearest to him. If you try to control something with total authority, sooner or later all of it would come toppling down .

[@FleyDragon]

These people are disgusting. There is no good reason to exploit animals like that.

[@darianstarfrog]

The curtain beasts were already dead, the dogs had fun..

[@FleyDragon]

@@darianstarfrog They are still being treated as objects. As entertainment.

[@pigwhaleg]

@@darianstarfrog they were alive, you can see a frog crawling

[@MarcoCam1314]

@@darianstarfrog You keep repeating this as if it was true when the own creators stated that they were alive and the purpose was them dying for the piece to work. Literally cant be more stupid than taking 5 min to do research on it.

[@idorus]

@@darianstarfrog why are you in these comments trying to convince people to not care about animal abuse? its wrong even if you want to pretend it isn't

[@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace]

First thing that pops into my head with the blood robot is the futility of life. Just working so hard to stay alive even though death is inevitable.

[@gergomarton5194]

We're trying to keep the liquid in so hard but then we die and the fluid flows away.

[@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace]

@@gergomarton5194 Exactly.

[@spicymeatballs2thespicening]

Exactly. If you think about it, almost everything about our lives from our goals to why we suffer, stem from our inherent biological drive to continue existing at all costs.

[@endieisfridgeconfirmed]

So might as well die immediately right? Im just kidding

[@RongDMemer]

True. True. But we gotta keep on living till we can't

[@M4D0GG0]

"One must imagine the machine happy."

[@witchypeoniflorallungs3044]

All I’m saying about that robot is I’ve seen enough Terminator, Detroit: Become Human and read I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream to shart myself 😂 Even lacking sentience, it’s still kinda sad to witness 😢 Also agree with other comments, poor animals… that’s way too far… So sorry about your struggles with this, but the results are so informative! Wishing you all the best

[@critconk]

One can only imagine the saddest robot happy.

[@creepjax]

I hate people that try to say their interpretation of art is wrong. It’s fucking art, it’s meant to be interpreted by however the viewer sees it.

[@pigwhaleg]

Except the living animal curtain, that wasn’t art.

[@kwanruanpromdeesan3514]

The saddest thing is someone thinks animal torture is an art. 😢

[@errorx_x1063]

People rather personify a machine

[@yanaroro8863]

It’s fun😊