The Sanctity of Marriage: The Duty of Motherhood vs the Abuses of NFP

Definition of marriage contract: perpetual (constant), exclusive, limited. First and second ends: NFP uses. Gregory Popcak vs. Pope Pius XII: Serious motives must exist. Right and duty of marriage. Sin to habitually avoid fruit of marital privilege. When is NFP lawful? NFP not intrinsically evil. Who might not exist? Our Lady and the call to motherhood. For more please go to & remember to say 3 Hail Marys for the priest

[@m-hayek1985]

This NEEDS to be re-uploaded to get more views! Very important message

[@pilot2502]

Sex and marriage were never designed to be this complicated.

[@tonycallahan4488]

Excellent sermon and very important message. I am getting married soon and am deeply frightened for the future economic well-being of the family I am about to start. I am a man on a median or a roughly median income with stable job etc, but where I live (Ireland) there is a housing crisis whereby property values have skyrocketed meaning you need a very high income and down payment in order to buy even in less desirable areas, and rental properties extremely scarce with latest statistics showing only 800-900 properties currently available to rent in the entire county including rooms and apartments for a population of 5 million people. In my county, which has a population of nearly 90,000 people, there is only 1 property currently available to rent on the market. I am greatly looking forward to having children and have done my best to secure a stable income and a property for myself and my wife, but I live in constant fear over what the future may hold for myself or anyone else in this country who doesn’t have an above average income. This is especially saddening as I do not want my wife to work and neither does she, yet to get a mortgage now you either need to have both spouses working or you need one spouse on a high income. Personally I have chosen to keep her at home, doing my best and leaving the rest to providence, and excited to have my first child. I never want to have to use NFP.

[@kathrynizzo5811]

Maith thú, keep going and keep the faith. I've been a stay at home wife and mom in Boston on $15k and in Belgium on 18k Euro. I know Ireland is very very expensive, but the stay at home mother makes a huge impact on her family's spirituality. You'll see the difference over time versus families on the two income path. God will help you. Keep going!

[@tonycallahan4488]

@@kathrynizzo5811 Goodness, if you were able to make it work on 18k, then I have nothing to complain about! Praise God and thank you for the encouraging words.

[@sitka49]

@@kathrynizzo5811 What are you on social services or you live with your family ? I don't believe it otherwise. The average 2 bedroom apartment in my area and I don't live in a large metro area ( which is a cheaper state by US standards ) is around $2000 a month over $20,000 a year. ( stay home and have your 10 kids and the state (taxpayer) can pay for it?

[@kathrynizzo5811]

@@sitka49 all true. all real figures. we've had nought but magic luck. I didn't even mention the two times he was made redundant while I was pregnant. Left Boston in 2008 so prices may vary. yes, there are lots of social services in Belgium. To quote Hilaire Belloc "Remember you will son be dead, let's hear a bit less about your taxes." I'm lucky to be married to the hardest working man in the world. Blessings to you all.

[@sitka49]

@@kathrynizzo5811My contention is, everyone's situations are not going to apply to yours's or are they going to have that “Magic luck”? Telling people they can make it on 15k a year does not transfer ( it’s plain stupid) . Also I think one should live within their means,( if you can only afford 2 kids you have 2 kids), and not rely on govt handouts, to raise your family, all your teaching your kids is welfare mentality. “Pennies do not come from heaven. They have to be earned here on earth.”

[@louis-vd3ur]

NFP is almost always a lack of charity and basic marital rights to the husband through fear of the wife who has been exposed to the workforce along with the perpetuity of debt within the marriage carried over from student loans. The lack of knowledge of the marriage debt is a serious issue with Catholics today. The main issue with NFP today is the misguided assumption that both husband and wife MUST agree on the bringing of new life. The marriage itself was the agreement!

[@CitySlickerBallKicker]

@Bok Choy This makes Catholic men sound no different than Muslims. Smh

[@cactuscallie5090]

@Bok Choy Seriously - that sentence of "a wife who has been exposed to the workforce" - WTF does that even MEAN??? I'm not sure, but that wording is SO chauvinistic, as if the wife (who is a grown adult!) is a child, or even a pet, that the husband needs to ensure doesn't get "exposed" to anything that may corrupt her innocent little ears 😋

[@karynyzelman1176]

So many Catholics abuse NFP today. This message needs to be preached more often. But I did know a few women who had really large families (up to 15 children )and who had to go permanently on psychiatric medication because they had a bad nervous breakdown. Such cases then provide valid reasons for NFP

[@andreanease4215]

Absolutely. Not only mental health but physical health. I know several women who have double digit families (or close to) and nearly all of them have had serious medical issues as a result. The problem is many women aren’t practicing ecological breastfeeding- which conforms to natural law and provides a natural form of child spacing. Instead, women are either formula feeding or practicing cultural breastfeeding and often give birth every year- which science has shown to put both mother and baby at risk for various problems (low birth weight for example). Moms are left depleted and for example low iron can mimic depression. There’s nothing wrong with large families but since we do not use our bodies on conformity to the natural law they can happen in an unnatural way regarding spacing.

[@andreanease4215]

@Gangari TheWanderer no, I didn’t. I just don’t think you understand what I’m saying. I am saying that the problem isn’t large families per se - I should have clarified the families that I know who have double digit kids have them closely spaced together because they aren’t practicing ecological breastfeeding or have underlying health conditions that make them have an early (unnatural) return of fertility. So the number of children is sort of irrelevant but more about the spacing and health of the mother. And nfp can be used for conceiving or avoiding and needs to be done for serious reasons to avoid so that can be a problem or not depending on its use. There’s a reason for natural child spacing. Too close together and it does negatively effect the mother and child- both physically (proven by science) and spiritually because it’s going to undermine the ability to fulfill duties. Read some of the early church fathers on parental duties and you’ll be surprised!

[@andreanease4215]

I’m also not sure about what you mean by “changing the way they run the household” but in my experience that usually looks like parents who force their children to suffer unnecessarily (not knowing a virtuous way, but by either neglecting their legitimate needs or putting them in a parental responsibility role they don’t belong in) in order to make life easier for themselves. Which is just pure selfishness. I’ve seen families where the children -even elementary age children- are literally doing more work caring for siblings than the parents. These children grow up to be resentful and anti-life themselves or continue the cycle with their own families because they weren’t shown love so they could give it later on. It can’t be “do as I say and not as I do.” So many parents ask their children to do what they as adults are incapable of.

[@sitka49]

@@andreanease4215 'The problem is many women aren’t practicing ecological breastfeeding- which conforms to natural law and provides a natural form of child spacing." While this sounds great on paper, the LAM birth control method is actually 98% effective only if performed perfectly. By perfectly, we mean that it has been less than six months since you gave birth, you are only nursing (no bottles, formula, or food), and your period has not started again. ( and the thing of it is the couples probably not a lot sex going in that 6 months after the birth anyway so can we trust the numbers of the effectiveness of it. The best BC is not having sex) And there nothing wrong with having large families if you can afford them, and not make the taxpayer pay for them.

[@sitka49]

@Gangari TheWanderer Why is it the relatives job to raise your/ their kids? There are people that are just not mentally equipped or wherewithal to raise a dozen kids. Somethings you just cant be pray away? I knew a lot of larger families . I grew up in rural area mostly farm families ,and I never seen any of them that weren't dysfunctional to some extent or just plain toxic, including the family my wife grew up in 10 kids, her mother should of gone to prison for some of things she did to my wife and her siblings when they were growing up. She/ wife had no idea what a normal family looked like until she met me ,and than my family.

[@poligon333]

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[@Zoeyelizanelson]

Married last January and 33 weeks pregnant right now! My last midwifery appointment was JUST to discuss contraception, and she said NFP was unreliable. I told her okay, then we will just not be together sexually for a period of time and … the look on her face 😢

[@tonyale749]

I learned so much from him!

[@TheDomVerde]

JOY - Jesus First, Others Second, Ourselves Last ... Marriage is the same heirarchy, Christ Wills we Procreate, Care for eachother, and finally quiet our personal passions. You change the order you violate God's Will...and JOY will leave your marriage as sex turns in on itself and becomes a purely selfish act.

[@vjstv0101]

Hi. What if one gets married in an age one cannot have children anymore? Let's say over 40 and one is a woman.

[@XavierIsraelMatamoros]

I'm thankful that Columbus discovered America & my Spanish ancestors brought the Holy Faith to my pagan Indian ancestors & intermarried & ultimately gave me a shot at Heaven. Laus Deo!

[@clt8isgreat]

Who is this priest. Does someone know his name?

[@anthonyambuul9621]

Please pray for him. Here are 267 of his talks: kzbin.info/aero/PLOuAdJKfPP08NkivRuOa0SlI16Lue03QF

[@siggymartin]

With all due respect, I recall Father Chad saying the primary mission of marriage, before raising children, was to help get one’s spouse into heaven.

[@m-hayek1985]

No he said it was the procreation of children

[@karynyzelman1176]

My impression too after 11 years in tradition is that the first aim of marriage is to procreate and educate the children born

[@hicnar]

I seriously doubt that the Father Chad's surname you're talking about is Ripperger

[@andreanease4215]

If you’re referring to Fr. Chad Ripperger, he has said in many talks the primary purpose of marriage is procreation and education of children. Everything else is secondary.

[@Naomi-bw5qs]

Still not doing it. I have two and still need a nanny I would rather die than have even 5 kids 😂

[@butterflybeatles]

Father, please improve your diction. It is very messy and it is hard to understand what you are saying.

[@m-hayek1985]

That comment is a bit prideful sir. Listen more carefully

[@sitka49]

Well if that's the case for Mr.Popcak the 10th kid( according to father was lucky one?) , what about the 11th or 12th or for that matter 20th kid They didn't make the list? - that's the stupidest argument I've ever heard. if you weren't born you'll never know the difference. Yes, NFP may well be a highly effective method of having an active sex life while avoiding conception. A method that has no medical side effects, brings married couples closer, improves their understanding of themselves and each other, and reminds them of their relationship with God. What's not to like? Except that the official Catholic position on NFP and contraception is not, "NFP is the best, safest, most uplifting form of contraception." Rather, the official Catholic doctrine is, 1) "NFP isn't contraception," and 2) "Contraception is inherently and universally evil." Point 1) is absurd, and point 2) doesn't stand up to close scrutiny. As a result, it is entirely possible for someone to agree with every point you make about NFP, while still disagreeing with your conclusion that the Catholic church is getting it right. To elaborate: 1) NFP enables a couple to engage in sexual relations while intentionally minimizing the possibility of conceiving. That is, by definition, a form of contraception. I'll offer a few definitions to make it clear: It misses the point not because NFP is bad, but because those advantages are not the official reason the Catholic church promotes it. And the other three weeks of the month, it's deliberately-sterile sex. Yes, it is different. And NFP is not contraceptive in the week or so that it involves abstention. However, what about the week after that? The week where a couple engages in sexual relations only because they know that they will be sterile, and if they thought otherwise, they would not do it. Their hearts and minds intend for their actions to be only unitive and not procreative; if there was a chance of achieving both functions, then they would back off. Sex only fits into their plans so long as procreation is not a reasonably possible result. In that week, Natural Family Planning is clearly a contraceptive plan.

[@AnnulmentProof]

Why do you say contraception is not inherently evil?

[@sitka49]

@@AnnulmentProof I never said wasn't, or it was. I was comparing the hypocrisy of NFP to other BC when the proponents of NFP tell you it more effective than a condom . Something like emitting to a crime. But still pleading innocent .

[@AnnulmentProof]

That "contraception is inherently and universally evil...doesn't stand up to close scrutiny." Why not?

[@AnnulmentProof]

@@sitka49 you said that contraception being inherently evil "doesn't stand up to close scrutiny." Why not?