The Sarum Rite

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Calder (Dowry Of Mary)

Calder (Dowry Of Mary)

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In this video, we look at the History and Legal Status of the Sarum Use, but also the Differences between the Tridentine Mass and the Use of Sarum.
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@finlaystovell7671
@finlaystovell7671 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. You should have also mentioned that Pope Pius IX, when the English hierarchy was being reinstated, offered the English bishops the choice of using either the Tridentine Mass or the Use of Sarum as their primary form of liturgy in England. Many of the supporters of the Use of Sarum fell into heresies such as Brand Theory, so the English bishops chose to use the Tridentine Mass, although many Victorian Catholic churches were built in a Sarum style. Pugin, talking to Cardinal Newman about Birmingham Oratory, said that he didn't want to design for "so un-English and unmedieval a foundation as the Oratorians".
@DowryOfMary
@DowryOfMary 3 жыл бұрын
It truly is a shame that we did not accept the offer from His Holiness.
@finlaystovell7671
@finlaystovell7671 3 жыл бұрын
@@DowryOfMary While a shame to lose a rite of such antiquity, unity with the universal Church was (rightfully) seen as more important.
@DowryOfMary
@DowryOfMary 3 жыл бұрын
@@finlaystovell7671 Aye indeed.
@thusundi1963
@thusundi1963 10 ай бұрын
That is fascinating. Do you have a source for that? I’d love to read more about this topic. Also, what is brand theory? Cheers from the USA.
@beaubrent
@beaubrent Жыл бұрын
I dont even care about this, your voice is just really calming to listen to while I work.
@Randomname8383
@Randomname8383 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Didn’t know anything about the Sarum rite before this. Thanks for the info
@DowryOfMary
@DowryOfMary 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you!
@roberto.8633
@roberto.8633 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I also hope that pre tridentine liturgies like this would be revived one day.
@flyingisaac2186
@flyingisaac2186 3 жыл бұрын
its survival was noted in Derbyshire in 1745, in some modified form, local Catholics found French ritual surprising (RJ Urquhart, Ceremonies of the Sarum Missal, p. xvi). It had become identified somewhat with Anglican exponents of the branch theory who were looking for a Rite which was both Latin and utterly English (fairly English as it's derived from the Use of Rouen).
@milesofpenn
@milesofpenn 3 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video man!
@ingridlinbohm7682
@ingridlinbohm7682 3 жыл бұрын
Viva Sarum. One of our cats is called Sarum as he lives in The City of New Sarum. The other cat is very wise as she is called Sophie. I can see the Cathedral from my window.
@DowryOfMary
@DowryOfMary 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! That’s amazing! God bless you!
@joaneavila1626
@joaneavila1626 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you!
@DowryOfMary
@DowryOfMary 3 жыл бұрын
Of course! God bless you.
@apk324
@apk324 Ай бұрын
Where did you get these sarum prayers? Could you give me a link to some Sarum Ordo Missae?
@SarumChoirmaster
@SarumChoirmaster Ай бұрын
The vast majority of bishops and higher clergy have voided. nullified and abrogated any and all authority by the evil they have done. Therefore, there is NO binding legal authority upon anyone and especially other clergy.
@E.C.2
@E.C.2 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to assist at 1 Sarum Rite Holy Mass & 1 Mozarabic Rite Holy Mass offered by valid Catholic Priests or Bishops.
@83leela
@83leela 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful ❤
@DowryOfMary
@DowryOfMary Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@flyingisaac2186
@flyingisaac2186 Жыл бұрын
Most of the local Uses like that of York were derived from Sarum, but that cannot be pushed as a definite point particularly given that Uses such as that of Bangor have disappeared, known only from scattered remarks and notices and the efforts at partial reconstruction by one Anglican priest who converted were very much speculative.
@doraemon402
@doraemon402 4 ай бұрын
The Tridentine response to the confiteor is mistranslated.
@SebastianC25
@SebastianC25 10 ай бұрын
Bring back all Pre-Tridentine masses.
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 3 жыл бұрын
How does the Use of Sarum compare with the Ordinariate Use?
@devinlawson2208
@devinlawson2208 3 жыл бұрын
Not even close. Sarum is far closer to the Tridentine mass.
@pipsasqeak820
@pipsasqeak820 3 жыл бұрын
@@devinlawson2208 Ordinariate is closer to Tridentine Mass.
@devinlawson2208
@devinlawson2208 3 жыл бұрын
@@pipsasqeak820 well yes. The ordinariate mass is formed largely the text that was being used by Western Rite Orthodox following the use of St Tikhon/English Liturgy as well as that of the Anglo Catholic missals. So it just supplemented Prayer Book Liturgy with entire passages from the Roman Rite.
@adrianjohnson7920
@adrianjohnson7920 Жыл бұрын
@@pipsasqeak820 Remember, the Book of Common Prayer was 9/10s an English translation of the-then Catholic liturgy -- the parts referring to the Pope, etc were removed, and the rest kept. VERY roughly speaking, What the Ordinariate has done is put those bits back in, and keep the beautiful and stately formal English translation of what started out as the Sarum Rite, for modern use. (Personal note: I should like to see the old "Pax tablet" of the Sarum Use brought back for the Ordinariate kiss of peace)
@ryangarcia6323
@ryangarcia6323 3 жыл бұрын
Good day brother! May I ask where did you get the texts for the Use of Sarum???
@somedude2782
@somedude2782 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@rc3088
@rc3088 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful... would love it here in Arizona
@awreckingball
@awreckingball 3 жыл бұрын
Caflick mass.
@willx9352
@willx9352 Жыл бұрын
The use of Sarum was outlawed by the Council of Trent! Papal decrees regulating the use of traditional forms of the Latin mass only apply to rites that remain legal.
@okutaviof
@okutaviof Жыл бұрын
Quo primum tempore
@adrianjohnson7920
@adrianjohnson7920 Жыл бұрын
That was superseded.
@stephenfrancismoran6729
@stephenfrancismoran6729 Жыл бұрын
See, the current Liturgy is not so new after all then.
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