The Savage Air Battle That Ended in Complete Disaster

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Dark Skies

Dark Skies

Күн бұрын

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@emunmoo
@emunmoo Ай бұрын
Thanks for not ruining this channel with a new voice over!
@marvinjohnson424
@marvinjohnson424 Ай бұрын
I was on the Ranger in 69/70 attached to VF21. Unbelievable the amount of ordinance that left the deck on every sortie. 😳🇺🇸
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 Ай бұрын
More ordnance was dropped in SE Asia between 1965 and 1972 than was dropped in all of WWII.
@buttyboy100
@buttyboy100 23 күн бұрын
@@calvinnickel9995 and still they US lost. It is not about winning, it is more about making profits for the arms industry.
@MrOmega52
@MrOmega52 Ай бұрын
As Douglas MacArthur once said, They is no substitute for Victory. If your going to fight to win, then don't fight at all. Something we still have trouble learning.
@TheBestDog
@TheBestDog Ай бұрын
Your post is a nightmare for anyone with dyslexia 😂
@MrOmega52
@MrOmega52 Ай бұрын
@@TheBestDog sorry, but I'm a diabetic with vision problems as well as cataracts. So sometimes I don't catch the mistakes. Also, the spellchecker sometimes screw up. But, I think my point was pretty clear nobe the less.
@kevinchristensen84
@kevinchristensen84 Ай бұрын
I would LOVE to be able to tell you that you're wrong; the irrefutable fact that I can't makes me very, VERY sad. # Don't Vote For Communist Idiots.
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 Ай бұрын
Douglas MacArthur wanted to nuke the Chinese to win a “police action” most Americans didn’t even stop sock hopping to pay attention to. He also put personal ego over sound strategy by invading the Philippines which was a waste of resources under the Island Hopping strategy.
@MrOmega52
@MrOmega52 Ай бұрын
@calvinnickel9995 asked the soldiers who went to serve in the Korean War if it was a police action. The first thing they told soldiers when they arrived in Korea was ,I know you've heard that this is police action, it isn't, it a war, and you better remember that. The term police action was a political term used because they didn't want the American public, who were war weary after the second world War to think we were in another major conflict of which we were just that, in another major conflict, a war.
@Shogun459
@Shogun459 Ай бұрын
Dad flew F-105's from Korat to Hanoi. The Paul Doumer Bridge Was his 100th sortie. He lead a 20 plane attack on 25 October 1967. He was awarded the AFC for that strike. Less than 300 pilots have earned the AFC.
@dagmastr12
@dagmastr12 20 күн бұрын
You should be very proud of that!
@brettwhitesides7595
@brettwhitesides7595 Ай бұрын
My Dad arrived in country in 1967. He said that if the military had been in charge, we would have had Hanoi in two weeks. Politicians are not Generals, when War is the answer then winning is the key. We have not learned our lesson... It is only a war crime the second time.
@tundranomad
@tundranomad Ай бұрын
The way things are going, I doubt the US will ever win a war again.
@christopherchilders1049
@christopherchilders1049 Ай бұрын
My uncle always said the same thing! They were not allowed to win the war! He said they would take a hill gets orders to pullback. And what the enemy reclaim the hill like a bunch of ants. Then after a couyweeks they would retake the hill and start the process over again
@joedunleavy7066
@joedunleavy7066 Ай бұрын
Johnson didn't like the generals telling the politicians what was needed and how to use it. Korea Vietnam etc. that is why we haven't won a war since 46
@Sniperboy5551
@Sniperboy5551 Ай бұрын
I’d say that there’s a time for diplomacy, but once you go to war, that’s the only answer. This is especially true in Vietnam, where nobody knew who was a combatant and who wasn’t. Apparently we didn’t learn those lessons, look at Afghanistan.
@secondthought2320
@secondthought2320 Ай бұрын
And the damn fools are doing it now in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, Jordan, South Korea and with over 1000 military bases the United States has the largest military budget than the next 14 countries combined. But we don't have the money to help hurricane victims.
@richzarate9700
@richzarate9700 Ай бұрын
The North Vietnamese didn’t defeat the U.S., the U.S. Congress did.
@AnEnemy100
@AnEnemy100 Ай бұрын
The Vietnamese threw the Japanese, the French and the Americans out of their country. Colonialism is a failed experiment. You would not bow to a foreign aggressor, why should anyone else? 🇻🇳
@M0SFET_SGD
@M0SFET_SGD Ай бұрын
There are surprisingly many similarities between Vietnam and Ukraine war. Underestimation of the enemy (USA then and Russia now), political rather than military targets for bombing, lack of domestic production of weapons, fuel and the supply of these from allies. Impossibility of realizing an advantage in aviation due to enemy air defense systems.
@robert-trading-as-Bob69
@robert-trading-as-Bob69 Ай бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing. Imagine neutral America telling Great Britain it couldn't bomb Germany in WWII!
@wallybraveheart6896
@wallybraveheart6896 Ай бұрын
What about Iraq and Afghanistan? And ukraine ? What you mean by comparison ? There is none, other than it being a proxy war like vietnam.
@roberthorst5790
@roberthorst5790 Ай бұрын
russia is winning in ukraine
@UkrainianPaulie
@UkrainianPaulie Ай бұрын
​@@roberthorst5790😂
@peters6345
@peters6345 Ай бұрын
The difference sadly is Putin is ready to go the extra mile.. no pressure from inside or outside seems to matter to him
@moamaster1
@moamaster1 Ай бұрын
Robert McNamara was the biggest asset that the enemy ever had...
@sammymartin7891
@sammymartin7891 Ай бұрын
Don't short sell Walter Cronkite. At the end of the Tet Offensive When the Viet Cong was wiped out and the North Vietnamese Army was on its knees. He told the American people that "The War in Vietnam is now unwinnable" And he knew it was a lie !!!
@johnkelly3886
@johnkelly3886 Ай бұрын
What about all the other wars you have lost. Bob McNamara's fault? Now you are about to get sucked into a war with Iran. Get money out of politics and you might just get politicians who act in the interests of the average US voter.
@dagmastr12
@dagmastr12 20 күн бұрын
True story!
@DrFrankensteam
@DrFrankensteam Ай бұрын
Your thumbnail is actually a RC plane breaking apart in the air. I’ve seen that video pop up.
@diiiaggl4513
@diiiaggl4513 Ай бұрын
Always outstanding way of presenting with this voice. Greetings from Iraq.
@peterclark7879
@peterclark7879 Ай бұрын
It never fails to surprise me how nations can go to war with unlimited budgets but are unable to look after their most venerable people. Unless we treat people as insects ( the community is more important than individual's and they do not matter) no one is more important than their neighbour, get over it and learn to live together. Learn to walk in other peoples shoes, you will be a better person if you can.
@Peter-y5y9i
@Peter-y5y9i Ай бұрын
It's called human nature. War is usual, peace the exception. The only change has been in technology. We are far better at death and destruction now.
@iainhamilton6773
@iainhamilton6773 Ай бұрын
Watch Eisenhower speak where he warns of the increase in the Military Industrial Complex taking over US military. How we could have free healthcare, education if they didn't fight these constant wars. That was 60 years ago and we are still stuck in this rut.
@ronaldbrouhard1247
@ronaldbrouhard1247 Ай бұрын
MacNamara & Johnson basically used Nam as a "real-life" weapons development program. When they picked the F-4 Phantom over the Vought F-8 U3 Supercrusader, that cost some American pilots their lives. NO MiG had a chance against it. This plane had performance & agility of the (then an idea) mighty F-15.
@Ron-d2s
@Ron-d2s Ай бұрын
"Operation Bolo" The Fat Electrician.................
@johnschofield9496
@johnschofield9496 Ай бұрын
Our military hasn't been " allowed to win" since WWII !!!
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 Ай бұрын
What about Iraq and Afghanistan?
@SolitonHedgeFundcom
@SolitonHedgeFundcom Ай бұрын
1) US & Vietnam are now friends, so the war was for nothing. 2) Ho chi Minh in WW2 was a US ally fighting gueralla war against the japanese. He felt that for that loyalty, West should give him all of Vietnam ( ~Manifest destiny). Truman idiotically & arrogantly decided to give South vietnam to the French colonial power who promptly got defeated. - STEM+
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy Ай бұрын
We got a notice this time.
@MilitarySummaryChannel2024
@MilitarySummaryChannel2024 Ай бұрын
*Yeah, Fiat G-91, a beautiful light attack jet. On same path of F-86, or Mig-15. Cheers*
@robertwieland5958
@robertwieland5958 Ай бұрын
They fought with a hand tied behind their backs.
@robwernet9609
@robwernet9609 Ай бұрын
At 3:34 he says "their bomb bays opened"...f105s didn't have bomb bays.
@cavemanbum
@cavemanbum Ай бұрын
Actually, the F-105 does have an internal bomb bay. It was just never used.
@MrCateagle
@MrCateagle Ай бұрын
​@@cavemanbum Often fitted with internal fuel tanks.
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 Ай бұрын
lol. Confidently incorrect.
@NeverForget-24
@NeverForget-24 Ай бұрын
If it’s got a interesting story can you do a video on the DC-130
@drmarkintexas-400
@drmarkintexas-400 Ай бұрын
🎖️🏆⭐🙏❤️‍🩹 Thank you for sharing this
@AnEnemy100
@AnEnemy100 Ай бұрын
The Vietnamese have a right to defend themselves. 🇻🇳
@jackhydrazine1376
@jackhydrazine1376 Ай бұрын
Has he done a video about Operation Linebacker and Linebacker II?
@Tacquito
@Tacquito Ай бұрын
Vietnam, the greatest blunder in cold war politics for the USA France and others. I'm glad they turned out okay in the end despite the west.
@brianshook3289
@brianshook3289 Ай бұрын
roger that, Ive been livin in Da Nang 5 years. they are remarkable people
@larslarsman
@larslarsman Ай бұрын
Keep up the commie talking points ivan.
@lonnyself3920
@lonnyself3920 Ай бұрын
Sad as it is we are in the same time now with are politics,
@Tinker1950
@Tinker1950 Ай бұрын
"with are politics"? English not your native tongue then?
@klausschwabshubris
@klausschwabshubris Ай бұрын
Our
@MaximilianoAedo
@MaximilianoAedo Ай бұрын
Vietnam was hell for all Americans, both on the ground and in the air.
@sammymartin7891
@sammymartin7891 Ай бұрын
Operation Rolling Thunder wasn't a failure it was hamstrung from the start by Political Weakness.
@FalconWindblader
@FalconWindblader Ай бұрын
Thus a failure. It was doomed to fail right from the start, because the enemy, who was fighting for their country & to stay alive, proved understandably far more resilient, & those at the top just couldn't get their shits together.
@auro1986
@auro1986 Ай бұрын
don't you know that without politics there is no war or any other business?
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 Ай бұрын
War is politics. The British could have steamrolled over the Americans in 1776 and 1812. Both times they were fighting numerous other wars and it wasn’t worth it.
@Crete1943
@Crete1943 26 күн бұрын
The U.S. political and military misunderstood Clausewitz, who defined strategy as “the theory of the use of combats for the object of the War.” Tactics and strategy are the same, the aim of tactics is strictly to win on the battlefield, but the aim of strategy is to contribute to the political goal of the eventual peace. Both need clear and precisely defined goals. There were no such goals during the war in Vietnam. None whatsoever. Only the military industrial complex had clear and precisely defined goals and consequently walked laughing to the Bank.
@anti-Russia-sigma
@anti-Russia-sigma 20 күн бұрын
As the US in the war was to prevent communism from spreading into South East Asia,partially agreed.
@matzlangen6423
@matzlangen6423 Ай бұрын
Vietnamese Aggression??
@DeDeimos1
@DeDeimos1 Ай бұрын
He who sows the wind will reap the storm. America had to pay a price that was far too low in Vietnam. The Vietnamese fought for their country and for their lives, US soldiers fought for the profits of the arms industry and against an imaginary communist threat. If they had stayed at home, they could have lived.
@Ron-d2s
@Ron-d2s Ай бұрын
Imaginary? ever hear of Cambodia?
@FalconWindblader
@FalconWindblader Ай бұрын
While the US did indeed fight for profits for the arms industry across the country's many many wars, the communist threat was decidedly NOT imaginary. In fact, that threat is getting more & more real again today.
@mingfanzhang8927
@mingfanzhang8927 Ай бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊
@mingfanzhang4600
@mingfanzhang4600 Ай бұрын
😊
@fully_retractable
@fully_retractable Ай бұрын
Do the fake film scratches need to be on every clip?
@effingsix3825
@effingsix3825 Ай бұрын
A lot of film reels from the Vietnam war era were taken first on film, and then transferred to video for television, thus recording the scratches. The ‘scratches’ are also imperfections in the video reproductions. The Vietnamese reels are almost certainly taken on film. Film has certain markers that appear in individual frames in the film. It’s something you would watch without experiencing anything amiss. Nowadays, it would be ludicrous to watch these individual frame markers.
@mingfanzhang4600
@mingfanzhang4600 Ай бұрын
😊😊😊
@mingfanzhang8927
@mingfanzhang8927 Ай бұрын
😊
@danielbarnes7559
@danielbarnes7559 Ай бұрын
What gun sights? They certainly don't install gunsights on a plane without guns, our military can be inept not tjat inept in my 54 years of recollection
@akkseljohansson3601
@akkseljohansson3601 Ай бұрын
Quite a lot of similarities between the Vietnam war and the actual Ukraine war. And again it is not about „freedom“, it’s about 💰! Us delivers the hardware, Europe, mainly Germany pays Ukraine to pay the leasing payments for the hardware to the US. Some also say, that it might have to do with the vast (70%) agricultural land owned by 4 US moguls… Or about the illegal expansion to the east of NATO… Or maybe to cover up the multiple bio labs located in Ukraine as were still shown on the webpage of the DOD up until April 22… But who am I to know? And sure there are no similarities. I haven’t seen any in the European mainstream media outlets. These would definitely be fake news! Which by the way were the fake news on the labs? The one given by the German chancellor denying that there were any in Ukraine or the spokesperson of DOD who affirmed the existence and that they fear that they fall into enemy hands (shown on c-span)? Ah yes, the same chancellor of Germany who was standing next to POT(S when he explained they have the means and ways to take out the Russian German gas pipeline… The gov would never do that all on purpose, right? That’s what we’ve been teached in school and all our lives.
@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432
@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432 Ай бұрын
I love how american ALLWAYS soft thier MASIVE lose against vietnam. And UsA allways have an excuse to its warcrimes. Thr war was win by vietnam, no matter how many excuses and biased u are.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight Ай бұрын
Somewhere in that incomprehensible bucket of gibberish you just slopped all over my internet must have been something you regarded as a point, unless you are just vomiting up some more leftist drivel spoon fed to you by your fascist masters.
@ronaldbrouhard1247
@ronaldbrouhard1247 Ай бұрын
Some people KNOW, & some DON'T.
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 Ай бұрын
You can’t win a war that you are not allowed to win.
@ninjalanternshark1508
@ninjalanternshark1508 Ай бұрын
Try making a thumbnail without the stupid red arrow someday?
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 Ай бұрын
I like the red arrow.
@georgegeorgakopoulos5956
@georgegeorgakopoulos5956 Ай бұрын
Ante gamisou fonbet
@andreagarbarino290
@andreagarbarino290 28 күн бұрын
Very interesting but why this stupid music
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