💥 The SCARIEST Confession You'll Ever See! PSYCHOPATH or SOCIOPATH? - Angela Simpson

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[@JLKA4115]

Good Afternoon Guys...really enjoying both your Body Language Tactics course (hat tip to Scott and Greg). And all of you in the Masterclass!

[@JM-zg5ef]

Can you do a body language analysis of Christine Blasey-Ford, please? A short one on President Bush when had a shoe hurled at him would be great, too. Those were quick reflexes! 😄

[@tobiasandtheangel4834]

You seem to miss that her implied rejection, refusal to acknowledge as family those to which he was clearly alluding to by swift advance on to her children, showing the these are all she reads as family. in short, unspoken denial of parent and/or guardian

[@ANZUICHiK0RiNGO]

@@JM-zg5ef yes, nice idea with (in)famous "shorts" like G.W. Bush & the shoe or other popular reactions & moments 👏🏻 Belinda van Krevel (-> 60 minutes australia. She doesn’t like to blink..😅) or Arthur Shawcross ("Mr Blink“) would be interesting too 👍🏻

[@lepoussinvengeur]

"find the biggest person in there and fight them" Is it me or does Inmate Scott almost have a hillbilly accent ? lol

[@nikkikidd8428]

I watched her interview and interrogation I think , quite awhile ago and my theory is that she absolutely NEEDS people to believe that she killed this guy because he’s a rat because the truth is that the man she tortured over a couple of days was disabled. So going to prison for killing a rat means inmates respect you but killing someone that is disabled and did nothing wrong will get you killed. She doesn’t care about anything or anyone but herself. But guess I should watch the video and see what you guys think lol

[@kimberclevelandmusic]

There's no one to corroborate (Sp) the things she claims he said, that I know of. I may be wrong.

[@lynnreinholt1088]

😳

[@MarkAHouston]

@@kimberclevelandmusic I was there..he was a rat

[@IamRa-18]

That’s a pretty great insight!

[@alabama.worley]

Yes, I strongly believe this to be the case, as well as her attitude being a complete facade. This is supported by her repeated reference to "sisters", and her language overall conveying herself as being embedded/accepted by what she sees as her peers in prison. She evidently desires both attention and acceptance, which I believe is her primary goal.

[@binniparis8024]

I was in 6 different orphnages as a child. My defence was 'fight'. I agree 100%. An intelligent woman who is putting on a front so she may survive the next chapter of survival. I was blessed - after 5 yrs of addiction I got into recovery. Ive spent a lifetime unlearning what I learnt to survive. Not a psycopath a survivor. Xx

[@justme-cr2zc]

"Prepared attitude" is a wonderful expression for what her behavior is. It also fits a lot of other people I've seen.

[@TASmith-ou3is]

She seems to be trying hard to be perceived as tough. I doubt that she really feels that tough inside. Also, she appears to try to be as shocking as possible. I think that's part of the persona she has created.

[@sketch735]

I agree and usually the only reason to do so is either to protect your other affiliations or to capitalize on your crime (notoriety). What she did is, with doubt, heinous, but there's definitely more to it than her hatred of "snitches". I am inclined to think she has ties to people she is trying to protect since she's been so vocal in refuting that.

[@lynleebossard6417]

@@sketch735, yes. She doth protest too much, more than once.

[@n.6353]

Yup, because she’s acting. In the end of the video she even made a joke about it saying they “got some good stuff” 😅

[@michellegrandi506]

She's been in mental hospitals since she was about 10. She has real mental issues and I believe she's every bit as dangerous as she claims.

[@moniqaf]

Since her co-defendants turned on her when they saw how sadistic she was, she fears what the other inmates will do to her once they find out about her evil act.

[@christinesowards6353]

Having been a teacher to gang members and other young people with crack parents, I see something I've seen before: this girl is NOT interviewing for TBP or the interrogator. Her sole perpuse is to let her future inmates and gang bangers outside that she is tough and they should not f♡♡♡ with her. That's the message and the audience.

[@mariagabrielle6383]

It's "purpose". Hope you don't teach English.

[@tracyengle7829]

I agree. I stated that earlier in my comment. Has to put on that rough and tough persona to not look and sound weak in the prison environment. She takes this person in to let her "sisters" view her as being tough and can handle herself and in my opinion, receive some recognition from within her sisters.

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

I had that impression right from the beginning, and I’ve taught mostly wonderful students from good homes.

[@Herbie-Went-Bananas-Then-Split]

Here's my take on Angela. The reason she gave for killing that man is not the genuine reason she tortured and killed him. She's acting a role throughout that interview, that's self preservation because she knows she's in prison until she dies and she doesn't want her time to be at the mercy of those prisoners who run their units. She mentions her "sisters" in prison only as an acknowledgement/appeasement, she's set herself up in a role and is letting them know she's one of them. She's in there for decades and wants her time to be as comfortable as is possible given prison regime. Again, that's self preservation. She's made it clear her children are off limits for discussion. Whatever the man did and was murdered for, disgusted Angela to such a degree that she knew she had to remove him from society, that's a very personal act and a protective one especially as she knew that by killing him, she'd be removed permanently from her children. She considered his actions so egregious that she felt her actions were a necessary 'evil', especially to go against her religious beliefs. She's clearly not psychopathic, is very intelligent and she knows the judiciary sentencing enough to know that despite his egregious actions, the judiciary would reintroduce him to society should she have taken that route.. and that wasn't a risk she was willing to take imo. Were her actions heinous, absolutely, without a doubt and despite the real reason for actions not being presented either by the prosecutors nor her defence - I have a feeling that the reason she never sought to reveal is due to a deep personal shame/disgust and would have seen it as a further injustice to her personally, and the judge is savvy enough to know they weren't given the entirety of the reason for her actions, hence life in prison and not DP.

[@Nikalette100]

I think as part of avoiding being attacked (agree with you guys on that) she made sure to say the media said the victim was disabled, but he could walk as well as you or I. Prisoners have a code and attacking a disabled man, torturing a helpless man for 3 days is bad even for criminals, who are mostly fairly normal human beings. So she presents him as being able bodied. It also gives the impression she is powerful enough to take down a strong man…more protection.

[@Judygurl2]

I'm new at this and usually struggle to see the visual cues, but my gut instinct is reliable every time. With this woman I don't get psychopath. I get a woman so horrifically damaged by age 10, she's capable of inhuman acts but is also afraid for herself and her children, so she's building a legend for herself as inoculation against prison violence or coercive threats against her kids. A true psychopath wouldn't care what happens to her kids. Her act broke down at the end. Thanks for these videos. I'm learning a lot.

[@wendywoobles]

Excellent insight!

[@pamspencer5733]

I agree! I can't stomach her story growing up! Monsters are grown! She was in survival mode since birth I bet! I worked at Attica prison & the stories are true& Heartwrenching for most inmates!

[@Judygurl2]

@@pamspencer5733 it must have been so difficult for you, working at Attica. I hope for a future with better mental health care and family support. It won't be in my lifetime, sadly.

[@pamspencer5733]

@@Judygurl2 Yes,it's heartbreaking we can send a person to Mars, etc but can't breathe life into these ravaged souls🙏

[@jamiepender6667]

This woman is 💯 percent all persona. She’s used it as a shield or cloak her whole life and to survive on the streets and she’s putting it on heavy here too to protect herself. It’s ALL for show. She’s definitely not a psychopath or sociopath. The compassion statement said it all.

[@olumon736]

Agreed.. but her years of hiding behind that shield created a disembodied entity filled with anger and a code. You can see she doesn't like confrontation but talks about being direct. She has no compassion for life but notices the lack of compassion at the prison. Sending her to spend life with her "family is not punishment " but spednibg life in prison is horrible. Her self contradiction created the beast that commited the torturous crime.

[@BethStillSings1]

She expects compassion from jail, but couldn’t show compassion to a guy she TORTURED and killed. Unconscionable.

[@Goodlk231]

Well said.

[@kimharris2056]

It has to be more to this story than what she saying. The setting seemed hostile, she needs to be in a more comfortable and calming setting because there is more to this story, I feel anyway . For her to have tortured the guy for 3 days, where were her children and are her family used to her not being around for days or weeks at a time. I hope she gets the help she needs while in prison. I would like to know more about her biological family.

[@flinchfries]

I rarely comment but this was one of the most synchronous videos where you all are passing the ball among each other in a beautiful way. You guys are like a band. It will never be fun without the four of you. The technical Analysis of this video is really amazing as well. One of your best, guys. Great work!

[@dianesylvain3309]

100 💯 % Chase ! Trauma’s in childhood do mould characters and personalities. She said she spent a lot of her childhood in hospital for mental health issues…. institutionalized? Lack of love? Lack of nurturing. Her persona is “a rebel without a cause.”

[@astralmatrix]

Great study of a psychopath. Thank you guys for restoring the replay clips, last week's episode was difficult to absorb without replaying each clip after the panel's analysis. It's very effective when you show a clip, provide the analysis of the clip, and then play it again so the viewer can integrate the analysis with the clip. Thank you!

[@buttbiscuitsfannycrisps5220]

I'm not convinced that the reason she killed him was because he was a snitch. It was very, very personal and full of rage. She also said that all pedophiles should be killed. If she ,herself, was sexually abused as a child...and she had reason to believe that the man was a pedophile. Whether he was or not, she may have believed so. People don't act out in that way, for days...because of snitching. Especially, as she didn't even know the people ( apparently) that he'd snitched on. I'd be interested to know if she mutilated his genitals. But, his body was badly burned so may not be apparent.

[@gailjoubert611]

I agree, unless it was a close friend or family member who was snitched on… maybe then it still seems extreme though.

[@buttbiscuitsfannycrisps5220]

@@gailjoubert611 Exactly. Also, pulling teeth is a way of extracting a confession. She said that he had already confessed to snitching on multiple occasions. So, what was it she was trying to extract? If suspected child abuse was the motive, she may have hidden it as it would open up a can of worms. Killing a ' snitch ' gets her kudos in prison without having to relive her own trauma at a court hearing. I could be completely wrong, of course, and I'm not excusing her actions. The man she murdered, although he had a disability...he was very involved in the drug & prostitution scene. Was he a pedophile? Who knows. She may have suspected it and all that suppressed trauma came to the surface.

[@buttbiscuitsfannycrisps5220]

@@abigailfreeman715 I was looking into it a bit and apparently they had known each other for quite some time. Yes, he was a regular client of hers. I see what you're saying. Going ballistic is one thing but to torture someone for 3 days, takes stamina. The adrenaline of going ballistic, for what ever reason, doesn't last. This was drawn out and purposeful. I have no idea if he was a snitch or not. But, I too, doubt that's the reason. It just looks, to me, like suppressed trauma coming to a head. Perhaps he did or said something that reminded her of her abuser. I'm certainly not saying that he was a pedophile. I'm saying, that she may have convinced herself that he was. That level of disregard for someone else's pain and suffering, over days...something else had to have been the trigger for that. If she is BPD, then that would also explain how she might have confused the situation.

[@marlon1171]

The biggest mistake as far as i’m concerned is to try and put one’s self in that monster’s shoes unless someone shares comon psychiatric traits with her than that’s another story. Nonetheless even psychiatrists who examined this concluded that. It’s obvious that this person’s childhood was most certainly horrific but not everyone who did does what she did in the manner she did it. Indeed she did become subhuman and having that in any fonctionning society or anywere else in the world, is unacceptable. Little is known about the man she murdered. Quiet an easy target for her, no family, no friends, he was a paraplegic who also had mental disabilities, yet she brags about her kicking his ass and killing him but there’s no evidence that coraborated with him being a snitch, she didn’t even know the peoples he supposedly help put behind bars…. She had been institutionalized since she was 10 years old yet she wasn’t able to be rehabilitated or did the system fail her? Was she even treated for her mental illnesses, was there a treatment for her at all? Was she genetically predisposed for what she had? Did she fall through the cracks of the mental health system? Was she able to get the right kind of help,the questions are endless… Bottom line is that her environment shaped her into a monster very early on as a kid and she did something that should of gotten her killed by law and at least she had enough lucidity to recognize that.

[@mammo7647]

She’s justifying her actions which she did as self-indulgent as any criminal

[@OdonataKraft]

I'm a psychiatrist from Germany. This woman has a lot of the physical and psychological characteristics of complex trauma. I'm pretty sure that she endured some heavy s*it in her early childhood. This opinion of mine stems from other interviews she's given and this video.

[@katet4554]

I guess I could see that if she hadn't tortures and murdered a man .

[@SydMountaineer]

Yes, I agree with you. Her defense mechanism, narcissism, is very transparent.

[@SydMountaineer]

@@katet4554That’s why she did what she did - but that does not mean everyone who’s suffered trauma does the same.

[@AshtynJadeProduction]

This was the first time I watched the clips with no sound before watching them with sound. You really DO catch sooo much more. Fascinating, guys. Thank you.

[@sarahbriggs6271]

I agree with Chase. I teach middle school, and her behavior strongly reminds me of the "tough" kids who try to intimidate me with these same expressions. I think she never grew out of this behavior - it has worked for her!

[@KellieEatsCrayons]

BTW -- major thumbs up on the editing here!! I love when you pull up the scene you are referencing as you discuss it ..... makes it easier to follow along as your analysis progresses. Thank you, gentlemen!!

[@saaga1150]

Agreed!!

[@beckydouglas742]

I used what I've learned from you gentlemen yesterday in my profession....as a 2nd grade teacher interrogating kids at recess! 😁😁😁

[@ruthlessnsavage1958]

Love the new format. Pausing a face while describing body language 🎊 🎉 🎉

[@kimanez9391]

I grew up in the inner city on the southside (sou'side) of Chicago. I am 15 minutes in and I have seen these behaviors many times. She wants you to think she is hard because she cannot escape her situation. If there was a chance she could get out of it, you'd see different behaviors. Her behavior is to let you know she doesn't care, heck, she might even say she planned it this way. She certainly doesn't care about her family. She doesn't care about anyone. I bet she never visited her 'family' in prison. If you pushed her and pushed her for days, you might break her. But you might break yourself in the process. I know this type because I lived around people like her. She has never felt protected. All fragments of vulnerability that remain in her have been pushed all the way down. She can't let you see it. She never had comfort. She never had anyone wrap their arms around her and tell her and make her believe that she was safe and loved. She is like Charlie Manson. A product of her environment. Charlie wanted some sympathy though but only so he could manipulate you further. She baits. It is her armor.

[@bereal6590]

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[@DJPoundPuppy]

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[@stefaniebowling8370]

"The bottom line to Angela Simpson is whatever people want to think." The message is "I''m bad don't mess with me" she is hoping that this message is exactly what is conveyed. She doesn't want to talk about her children because that's a spot where she hasn't perfected this "persona"

[@littlebitaver]

Her last clip is such a departure from the others. It's as though she thinks she's just smashed an audition for the role of an inmate on a Netflix series. It's so jarring, I'll be over recovering from my whiplash.

[@martynvanlancker2364]

I did my 1st yearof Mental Health Nurse training,and I took away the theory of Acute Childhood events or ACEs. The greater the number of ACEs the greaterthe likelihood of mental illness over a minimum score of 5 ACES. Great to hear Chase talking about a similar concept!!

[@hunbun9052]

It feels like her highest priority in life is not to feel vulnerable in any way.

[@amyjt35]

Mark, when she says she claimed a bond, or claimed to bond, she's talking about a CARING RELATIONSHIP as a bond, not that they hold or owe something. She feels betrayed by people she cared about and would have protected them, including by taking the life of anyone who posed a threat to their safety. They did not protect her the same and in fact did just the opposite in throwing her under the bus.

[@dianesylvain3309]

1:02:09 Wow !!! She just acted like she just finished a “ celebrity interview”, or a “movie scene”. She used this interviewer! She loved 🥰 her “performance “. What type of “crazy” is she? Good question! Great episode guys! I go with “sociopath “ at this point-hard core criminal.

[@cassandras7399]

Def not a psychopath IMO; sociopath, yes. The scariest thing about her to me is that I don’t find her scary, but should. There’s a code that she won’t delineate, on purpose. No one gets close or is allowed in, and she lives by her façade, which says a lot. She won’t talk about things that actually bother her, and she regrets people getting close. There’s something more than killing a snitch to this, imo

[@PatriceTaylor-u4i]

My feeling is that in real life, if someone feels wrong, or you get that sinking/scared, want to get away feeling in your stomach, in their presence, in spite of how friendly they may be, don't hang around to try to identify their bad psychopathic traits.

[@JoyceTelfer]

GENTLEMEN - did you notice at the very end the facial expression and demeanor of the guard who turned back to Angela therefore face to the camera? My interpretation was that the guard was familiar with interacting with her and that she was accustomed to pleasant interactions and not at all surprised at the bubbly cheerfulness Angela was displaying after the interview. To my view, that speaks to Angela's more typical demeanor in her day to day encounters with others, and more than any other aspect we have seen, casts doubt upon the 'performance' she produced for the interview.

[@ninabobina2006]

I see a ring on Chase’s finger! Congratulations to Chase and Sara!!! 🎉❤

[@skirtbrowning3608]

Hi Behaviour Panel! This is out of left field, but I think it would be really fun if you analyzed a popular comedian clip! Comedians are performers and while their bits are tied to their thoughts and beliefs, they are exaggerated to comical effect. But I honestly think it's be fascinating for you to break down what you are seeing in terms of how their intonation, word choice, pauses, facial work and behaviour take us (the audience) along for the ride. Mull it over, could be an entertaining way to mix it up! (I do comedy and think about this stuff a lot.)

[@amithorpe]

this is a great idea

[@kathleencollins884]

That burst of excitement appears to be a result of happiness that she got the message she wanted out. She’s pleased with her performance. If given a different start in life, I think she could have been a productive member of society.

[@sarahjanelees6904]

My favourite part of this video was Chase's dog coming to show him love and Chase trying to hold back his laughter and joy and put on his serious hat. Mark was also trying to stop his affection and keep serious . Such a gorgeous dog ! Should be a guest judge lol

[@Nikalette100]

There is more to this murder than him saying he is a snitch. It’s too personal. Too vicious. Too cruel. Probably drug or money related. Otherwise she could have just quickly stabbed or shot him, not tortured him for 3 days…if that is true.

[@malinoscarsson9362]

"I've got a lot of family in prison". Yikes!😮 That's dysfunction on a high level, no matter if it's actual family or chosen family.

[@lynleebossard6417]

I'm devastated. I've blown thru most of your videos in the last couple of weeks since I discovered you. Soon I'm gonna have to just wait for new content every week just like everybody else.😭❤

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

We’ll hurry. 🙂

[@DawnNY]

Lynlee, Maybe you can join the "live chat" on the premier shows. It's fun. Also, some episodes I've watched a few times. I've lost track of my views on the Jussie Smollett. 🤦‍♀️

[@lynleebossard6417]

@@DawnNY, I'll have to do that. Today I watched all the Depp/Heard ones. I never expected to get sucked into that trial like I did when it was happening. Lol.

[@blackrussian12345]

@@DawnNY that's funny!! I can't watch that fool w the fake noose but R Kelly w Gayle King -? Oh I can watch him jumping out of that chair on repeat. cos karma bites

[@DawnNY]

@@blackrussian12345 🙂 Yes, The R Kelly one is the other one I've watched repeatedly. When he jumps out of the chair it's the best. The Behavior Panel has been a highlight of my week since their first show. I join the "live chat " during the premier. It's such a great community of Panalists from around the world. Have a grand day! Blessings from Long Island NY 🇺🇲🙏🏼🗽

[@JMM599]

A while back, I made a comment about how I thought your videos involved a lot of talk but not much video, and how not being able to see what you all were talking about in “real-time” made it hard to follow. I just want to say that I’ve noticed a change to how you all do your videos and LOVE it!!! Analyzing smaller chunks with flashes to the behavior you’re talking about and then replaying the part is great! We can see it from our perspective and then rewatch it with your perspective. I’ve always loved the behavior analysis you all do and now I look forward to watching them. Well done 👍 and thank you for all the vids!

[@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws]

She isn't duping anyone, just stating a fact and it's the obvious questions of the interviewer that's causing her to smile. I think she's really scary but, I don't think asking inane questions helps anyone understand her motivation. Scott's spot on that's obviously contempt!

[@WendyMarieMedia]

If I was going to spend the rest of my life in prison, I think I'd also feel the need to attempt to control the perception of my level of not giving a f***. The biggest mistake she made in this interview is thinking these folks were her buddies by breaking character at the end.

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[@ingelathune-boyle]

"Do you care what anyone thinks?" "No."...and I no longer see anger in her eyes but sadness or looking lost.

[@christinen1400]

I agree with Chase, I feel like she's "acting tough" like we did when we were kids. Setting it up that she has support in the prison system "my sisters" and that she's tough "I should have gotten the death penalty" and a stone cold killer "of course I killed him". She absolutely has needed to put up this tough front in the past.

[@LinaGenX]

Agree, pretending she's happy to be in prison where she'll be treated like a child, instead of being free, with her kids, and in charge of her own life

[@camilaxcastillo]

I can even think I understand when she gets almost offended by the question of “wanting people to feel sorry for her” as if she feels that when you feel sorry for someone it would be a way of you feeling you are “above” that “ poor person “ that doesn’t know better or can’t do something , it’s like devaluing her and she wont have any of that !

[@ilonas7760]

Her attitude and her ability to be honest scares us more than the fact she committed the act. It is absolutely fascinating because typically there is a mask to deal with.

[@lucyssilverlining5396]

I always appreciate when you edit the videos like this. Thank you for your time and effort.

[@craiglahey3209]

The "Sisters" she is referring to are gang related sisters. She is putting this out there for survival/protection when she joins the general population. The same holds true for her "code of conduct" which may grant her protection and acceptance for following the "code". LOVE this channel, and the Behavior Panel. Learning new things and techniques daily, and makes me realize as a 28 year veteran police officer, how absolutely inadequately we were trained.

[@valentinacamacho7198]

I thought it was weird she bit her lip or something at that point also or.licked em.

[@angelabell8725]

I would think they would keep her in pc.She will be to much to watch all the time.

[@ninjacat508]

The day she was sentenced, Simpson said she would have preferred to have kept Neely alive and tortured him for a week. Simpson also implied that Neely was not her first. Phoenix police called "one of the most heinous homicide cases the department has ever seen." Simpson put Neely in front of a mirror and made him watch while she tortured him for 3 days by pulling Neely's teeth out, drove a nail into his head, bashed him with a tire iron, stabbed him around 50 times, and strangled him. Then she chopped up his body and threw the pieces in a trash can, which she lit on fire. Simpson was already in jail on an unrelated armed robbery charge in August 2009 when she was interviewed by police, and admitted that she killed Neely. Neely had been missing for about three days after he left an assisted-care facility in his motorized wheelchair on August 2, 2009.

[@michellebohart6662]

Am I the only one that has no skill but is just fascinated with what makes people tick & love to hear the skills of these experts? These guys are the best. And yes I’m the one listening in the shower like a podcast. LOL! 😅

[@gigglingboyinthebackground2902]

"Her hair is done". Chase are you serious??? 😂🤣😂🤣

[@robynmarler3839]

She did her best, bless her.

[@SJ-tb2wq]

You cackled at that comment, too?

[@travelwell6049]

Her hair is not not done. She’s a cold blooded killer and we have an issue her hairstyle? 😏

[@cydkriletich6538]

I did a double take on that, too! 😂

[@Melissa-Sue]

I tend to straighten My hair, or use a diffuser, as I have curly hair... you can tell she has curly hair with no product to use.

[@karengibson6872]

I specifically looked for Angela Simpson, crazy as a box of frogs but there is something very likeable about her. Great insight lesson by the way

[@macy1914]

She could've been a real leader in an other life. She's funny too. It's a shame , for her and her children, and of course the poor victim.

[@karengibson6872]

Such a fine line between monster and genius. Just one bad decision eh?@@macy1914

[@joniatoms9798]

47:00’s cameo appearance of the K-9 panelist was perhaps a little levity to this heavy review. Chase, too cute!!! (bump…bump… “Dad….dad….dad…dad…sniff…dad dad dad…no! Dad don’t put me down! I’m famous now! “

[@frdmbe9258]

Chase, is your dog a shepard or a malli?

[@ShakerMaker1980]

I think she’s seen some stuff and possibly ain’t as tuff as she’d like us all to think. Hurt people, hurt people…

[@cathyjohnson5927]

Re-play crew here 🙋🏼 Really enjoy your personalities. When I crack up at Mark I immediately check to see who else is laughing and it’s always Chase! 😆 Thanks for the lesson and the laughs!

[@annab8312]

It always boggles my mind how those folks who commit horrific crimes against other humans are genuinely outraged when they personally receiving poor treatment in jail/prison.

[@BovisStercus]

@Mygenericlookz Prison isn't a spa day with the girls. She looks well-fed and healthy.

[@annab8312]

@Mygenericlookz didn't the guy who she killed brutally have a right to certain standards of life under the law? She didn't respect his rights to life. But she expects it. Somewhat hypocritical. Why does she deserve it when she didn't give it? Cry yourself to sleep in jail. You take someone else's life intentionally, your forfeit your own and you can't control the consequences of your actions, take whatever comes your way. Don't like it? Shouldn't have committed the crime. She's right though, she deserves death.

[@pamelarussell8547]

I will say this. Throughout my nursing career I have also worked in several prisons. One thing I did notice, even in juvenile prisons, many of their family members and friends have also been or are in prison. For many of them it is simply like the life they are used to. Growing up in gangs and the city these are the types of people they are used to being around anyway. The anger is just a part of who they are because of the way they grew up. In some ways it not that different than their life on the outside.

[@leannatimmerman9922]

Please read Inside The Criminal Mind by Stanton Samenow for a different perspective on how criminality arises.

[@wow23birds]

I have a hard time watching killers being interviewed. Why do we give them that freedom when they are in prison? I can’t watch Dahmer or Gacy, or any serial killer. How about an interview with a con man. Something that can help us old folks to be very cautious of them. Greg, Mark, Scott, & Chase, I love how your personalities cover various interpretations of an individual. Thank you!

[@caraarslan]

My impression is that it is very important to her to not show any weakness.

[@rachaelb.]

Exactly!!! Didn't we all go through that stage as a teen where we acted so tough and thought that nobody cared about us for a time?

[@disneygal200016]

She’s definitely playing a game with the interviewer. Those eyes! 😳 I wouldn’t want to turn my back to her.

[@lauraswann5543]

This interview was for the people she would be spending time with in prison, not for the interviewer or his audience. She is full of adrenalin because that very day she had been in court, and now she is pumped up giving this interview. She is very direct and honest for two reasons. #1.There is no reason not to be, because she has been found guilty in court and #2. She wants to tell the people she will be spending time with in prison that she is someone who will kill you and not care, so don't mess with her. When she says "sisters", this is what gang women call the other female gang members. So again, she is warning the prison inmates that she has gang cover in there, so don't mess with her. This interview was all about protecting herself in prison. She didn't particularly want to be answering questions, if she had been in court, it would have been a tedious and tiring day; having to sit through prison transport and court, probably very rushed meals, if any. But she is keeping herself pumped up because it is very important for her self-protection in prison that she give the impression of a badass gang member that prisoners should not mess with, even though I don't believe she was a gang member at the time of the interview. She feels under threat, with so much adrenalin pumping through her that she looks as if she could jump out of her seat and attack someone. Last time I'll say this, that woman is warning prison inmates not to mess with her.

[@wondering1916]

She is the scariest person I’ve ever seen in a long time. Her eyes have constant rage and targeting in them. I don’t believe she has any compassion for anyone. The only thing that matters to her is her. If you anger her watch out, because she won’t limit herself in how she lashes out and she will genuinely enjoy hurting you as much as possible. That’s the only thing that gives her joy.

[@jeanniecameron5831]

I think she's directing her comments to the inmates in prison. Setting up her "status" as she enters "their" world. She's a lot more afraid of going in than she's letting on.

[@bexncarl]

The side smile she has when she says she has family in prison, I thought it might be pride,she seemed proud of the fact they were there

[@violetsrayreikishop2]

It's not her real family she's putting on a show and really is looking forward to that bond to protect herself

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

She doesn’t mean blood relatives. She means very close friends who feel like family. “Homies”.

[@Guammaine]

Shes playing a part. She's being who she has to be so she can survive with her " sister's " in prison. Definitely gang affiliated and still trying to prove herself. Shes angry and acting angry because shes scared AF lol

[@barrymaxwell3487]

Absolutely agree!!

[@SynthAddict]

interesting episode - thanks for the improved edits in these new vids where you show the mini clips above as you discuss the elements, makes a greater impact

[@HadalsameTV]

She is not a psychopath but someone who is trying hard to look like one as a defensive mechanism.

[@MeredithCarmona]

I have watched her several times. She is almost certainly a psychopath...I truly don't think she feels any sort of remorse.

[@Herbie-Went-Bananas-Then-Split]

@@MeredithCarmona Lacking remorse does not make her a psychopath. It is evident she has empathy, the mere mention of her children evokes that in her which she's trying hard to suppress because she wants them 'off limits' topic wise. I've no doubt she lacks remorse, she's justified to herself why killing him was a necessity and it's not a reason we've heard from either the prosecutors nor her defence, she wants that kept strictly hidden to herself and that's a protective stance, so is she protecting her children, other people's, or herself? I think it's a mix, and that reason was never fully investigated.

[@SicilianStrega13]

After watching her closely and really looking at her expression Ive come to this conclusion… Chase is handsome 😊

[@artcreationsbydar]

Hahaha!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@elainetise4535]

I laughed out loud when I read your post. Yes, Chase definitely is, but I think all of them are in their own special ways. They are definitely "cool!"

[@juliana.x0x0]

I’m only ten minutes in, but I’ve seen this interview many times. To me, all I see is an angry little girl inside, who has been full of rage towards anyone she perceives could be a sex offender, and it’s just been building up for years. She wanted to get even. When I was a young homeless woman, I had to adopt this “outcrazy the crazy” method. Basically, if I was in an unsafe situation with unstable people, let’s say another homeless person high on drugs in an alleyway at night, you have to adopt a persona that takes that person by surprise if they approach you aggressively. It’s a protective measure. I think she grew up with violence being justified and bad behavior being ignored or excused, and she was hurt in the process, out of control of the situation. So like a pendulum, she had to go from one extreme to another to even the score. Edit: also, maybe she did this as almost a protective measure for her kids. From her warped perspective, a hurt little girl who never healed, who now has children to protect…taking out one more predator sets a precedent-don’t mess with me, don’t mess with my kids, because I’ll f*kin nut up and kill you. And one less predator in the world makes the world a little safer for her kids.

[@Nikalette100]

She is a predator and her victim was prey. Helpless and suffering unimaginable pain. So confessing, she rid the world of another predator. I believe she was certainly at least a neglectful mother…drugs, being jailed (she did not say she had never been in jail, just prison). At worst, she was likely a cruel and abusive mother. How did she find 3 days to torture the victim with four children? This was not her first experience of inflicting pain on another human. She had to go to extremes to satisfy her bloodlust. How do we know she had not beaten her children? It is far more likely that she did. Psychopath.

[@JenniferYbi]

Mark's early comment that this interview is more interesting than it first appears- right on.

[@timewoundsallheels4ever]

In an odd way, I respect her for her honesty, straightforwardness, and total acceptance of her punishment. And she does have a point with people having different reasons (good or bad) to kill. In the greater scheme of things, this, too is relative; with some people getting punished for it, and some not, even to the extreme that some are praised as heroes after having killed.

[@jaynegalloway6232]

I saw a recent documentary about a women’s prison. The documentary makers AND prison staff are TERRIFIED of her!

[@rivercoss9194]

Jayne, do you recall the name of the documentary?

[@saraha5847]

Do you remember what the documentary was called or on what platform you watched it? That sounds really interesting!

[@saraha5847]

@@rivercoss9194 jinx lol 😂

[@jaynegalloway6232]

@@rivercoss9194 - I wish I could. I came by it accidentally. They showed Angela, standing in a cell, crazy eyes and all!

[@annmark1966]

I listen from bed at night but Scott's voice is too soothing and I fall asleep so have to listen all over again...just saying..

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

😮

[@J-Bird88]

Same. I would love to listen to him read me a book

[@ockmf]

Me, too!

[@annmark1966]

Maybe he should do a sleep talk for us all

[@CoachChristinaCundiff]

Same!

[@izindawo8363]

I see a woman who's probably been severely traumatized since very young. She clearly lived rough, I see gang-rated behavior / answers. She is intelligent. She feels she's stuck, will not reveal her real emotions, and the real reason she killed the man. My suspension is that the man did something to her child/ children. I do not feel psychopath/ sociopath. The laughing is related to relief. Relief that the convo is over (holding up the act, hiding the real reason for the killing, protecting her kids) and letting of steam, release tension.

[@mollybradshaw9336]

Love the abbreviated intro.....we all know and love you and your bios. Appreciate heading directly into the juicy bits!

[@Siamesebutter]

Love that Chase's pup wants to be involved in the conversation! Perhaps you could do a session with everyone's pets (if you have them of course)

[@wordjunkys]

Scott brought up her facial exexpression when the interviewer said, "there's no ambiguity" and that ignited a curiosity in me. When or if someone doesn't know what a word means, i wonder is there a particular facial expression one would expect to see when that happens?

[@wordjunkys]

Oh, i saw her facial expression at the word 'prevaricate,' Chase!

[@lauraslocumb257]

She uses the word incorrigible which is a more sophisticated word. She uses it in acceptable context.

[@mremington8]

guys just some constructive feedback - I Love the splitscreen with your subject and the panel, 25 min in, it makes it really easy to follow you all, also - haha, i love watching the panels reactions and interactions just as much as the subjects, i dont want to make you guys feel self conscious, but your all great, its learning AND entertainment at the same time. thanks for doing what you all do. much love.

[@deniece0821]

I had a client just like this 6 years ago! (I’m a nurse/mental health/substance use disorder counselor.) We initially developed a good rapport with mutual respect. However, these type of people can flip on you in the blink of an eye! Long story short, she assaulted me in the middle of a session. (Thankfully I was able to fight back as I’ve been trained in the martial arts.) She is now doing 20 years for Second degree murder. (That happened about 6 months after the incident with me.)

[@anyonecancookwithhannah]

Glad you are safe

[@deniece0821]

@@anyonecancookwithhannah Thanks. I ended up with bumps, bruises and a few cuts but nothing major. It affected my psyche more than anything. I became very bitter and jaded. By nature I’m a very empathetic and forgiving person. Thankfully I’m back to being that way again. For a while though, I was pissed at the world and didn’t trust anyone.🥴

[@HanFace89]

I’m training to become a therapist, thanks for this insight! Glad you made it out ok 😅

[@ANZUICHiK0RiNGO]

@Deniece🎃 sorry to hear that 😔 awesome that you‘re overcoming this and start to feel strong & yourself again (respect. A hell of a process). That experience must have been very disappointing, shocking and horrible. All the best to you 🙏🏻 greetings

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@deniece0821 Glad you're safe. Remember people and the world are beautiful, try not to allow one damaged person who was so cruel to you to shadow who you are. I'm sure you're still empathetic and forgiving. You just need the process of healing and adjusting the imbalances. Love and light to you 🙏🌺❤

[@spamtownhamilton6200]

Aside from the psychopathy/torturing a person to death and offputting lack of blinking, I find her conversationally somewhat charming lol

[@Detraf-ohw]

She most likely knows that prison is going to be better than jail bc her colleagues in jail most likely informed her of this fact. And, my pro tip; It’s very true.

[@cindysmalling4226]

This was really scary and interesting! Enjoyed reading comments. Thanks guys! I always learn something from each of you! 😊

[@cherylbommarito5569]

Greg you called it! She’s protecting herself from retaliation in prison for killing and torture of a disabled man.

[@elizabethpatience6523]

When she is asked if she ever killed anyone else I distinctly saw the eye movement of every liar I ever ran into.

[@charlee19]

Gregs on point Protecting herself in prison and def gang affiliation or expected probation with one in her future..

[@estern001]

Wow, this has been the most profound change I've had in my opinion after watching the Behavior Panel. When I first saw this interview I saw pure insanity. After this video I see her as one playing a psychopath.

[@vickieden5022]

My sister turned me on to your channel. Im totally addicted ! Body language analysis, has always fascinated me ! On a side note, Scott your voice is so soothing. Love it.

[@ricanhavoc9965]

Unrelated, but why does Mark always look like he should be on the cover of a Harlequin Romance novel? You rock that flowy hair, sir! 🤩

[@artcreationsbydar]

😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌

[@TheBehaviorPanel]

(Its a wig) 😮

[@ld914n]

😂

[@artcreationsbydar]

@@TheBehaviorPanel 😂😂😂😂you guys are great!

[@mysweettotoro3076]

@@TheBehaviorPanel 🙀😂🤣😅

[@stevewallace1387]

She tells the interviewer the man she killed had put a lot of people into prison the irony is that in a roundabout way he has now put her in prison

[@bonnieambrose3703]

I have to say I admire her honesty.

[@LovedByDax]

I agree she’s establishing her reputation for life in prison. She knows other inmates will watch this.

[@sole__doubt]

yeah but any authentic criminal can tell this is an act from a mile away. She can say whatever she wants but her body language betrays her big time. Real predators can see she is fearful, its written all over her.

[@tostyjoost]

17:10 i’ve seen lesbian friends do this, i call it the elvis smile. it gives them the feeling of masculinity maybe, because it doesn’t ‘look girly’, but more ‘tough’. amber heard did it also a lot.

[@DonaldBlodger]

Thank you for all your work in sharing your knowledge. I am a private investigator and am hired by attorneys to interview witnesses. Some consider me an expert in asking great questions; however, after spending some time with the four of you over a fair number of BP sessions, I am now keenly aware that I still have a ways to go in my nuanced seeing/hearing to become an expert “Listener.” Thanks again.

[@Brandibb]

Her voice wavers when she talks about how happy she is to go to prison. She is not happy.

[@tarabrightstar]

Great episode. What I saw and wasn't mentioned was sadness. I saw some sadness in the eyes and without knowing about her background I thought that this is a person who suffered in her life. That doesn't excuse her actions, but I don't think she was born this way, she was made this way.

[@Generalp28]

I was about to write the same comment. Her sadness is palpable

[@anniioakley9765]

Definite severe childhood trauma showing. The “ruthless and tough” ones seem to be the ones who were violated the worst. It broke them and they are now a shell of a human projecting an image

[@anniioakley9765]

Definite severe childhood trauma showing. The “ruthless and tough” ones seem to be the ones who were violated the worst. It broke them and they are now a shell of a human projecting an image

[@0000brit]

at 8:43 when greg mentions why she kind of bites her lip but isnt quite sure why, i think its her already knowing what she will say almost as if she expected the question and is just waiting for him to finish. she doesnt seem concerned in the question, instead telling herself i know what im going to say. just my thoughts 🤷‍♀️ i always found her fascinating because you never see many killers so brutally honest in a way you almost cant believe they did it.

[@Daniela-Christianson]

"Her hair is done" 😂 When did the bar get this low?

[@juliromanelli9768]

lmao 🤣

[@robertjansen9237]

Lmfao 🤤

[@Daniela-Christianson]

@@nancyt.7134 It was our Chase who said it.

[@SummerSwan50]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@VintageRose75]

I know. It was definitely not "done"...😂🤣

[@utbr963]

I see a scared little girl who feels unsafe unloved and alone in the world and aggression is how she responds to when she feels taken advantage of which leaves her feeling vulnerable and when you are a victim of childhood trauma and not a single adult in your life who’s safe then feeling vulnerable isn’t an option so she fights because she’s scared. She wants to be loved but doesn’t know how to give or receive it in a healthy way.I don’t think she follows a code bc if she really believed eye for an eye then she shouldn’t expect any compassion from the people who are judge jury or executioner.

[@JayJayJackson]

I think Chase is on target here. I think this woman has developed a lifetime attitude of bravado to survive. I find myself identifying with her in that. From an early age , 8 or 9, I survived predatory and violent threats by putting on a bold, blasé attitude. It worked, I think, by making the assailant unsure of what I might do.

[@mateuszmazurek7991]

oh yes, I know the mechanism. Had that to some extent too during teenage years. Be cool and collected but make the opponent unsure if you would kill them in bad circumstances... and in my mind? I was ready to do it, that's the trick.

[@mollybradshaw9336]

Love the editing with the relevant clips! Very slick.