The Science of MKX - Frame Data

[@sw00n85]

It's about time someone made a video like this. Another video explaining wiffs, wiff punishes, 50/50s etc would be great.

[@Levimester]

+jedi rico Check the "From Casual to Competitive" series (if you haven't already, here on this channel), I think they explain it in a video.

[@crimnoist]

ketchup thanks a lot for the tutorial .. I owe you a lot , this is helpful and will allow the audience to be better you are the only one who explained it professionally thanks again .. say hi to mustard

[@mikkdc]

Started playing MK11 last week and now I'm more into the game I needed this information. This video is perfect. All the info I needed is presented in a clear and concise manner. Was wondering just how to figure which moves are safe on block and how to figure out which moves can and cannot be used in kombos.

[@Ibex_Moon]

This is perfect for helping my bud understand why his button presses "aren't doing anything," at certain points of game play. Looking forward to helping him get better with this series of tutorials. Excellent work.

[@Uhirgz]

Same here bud.

[@Macbride525]

I've watched so many tutorials about this but nothing can be compared to this, amazing job guys :D

[@TheMaleRoleModel]

This is why I find it hard to play this game casually. I can't be bothered to learn all the frame data, but I hate losing matches.

[@driverxone9453]

it's not necessary to learn the exact frame data. I am a solid player imo and I don't know exactly the frame data, I just know what strings can I do and what strings I can't do.

[@TheMaleRoleModel]

+M MG I was playin a kotal the other day and he kept doin that up throw thing and I couldn't move. I play mileena and they just do loads of stuff and kung laos ruin me pretty badly too. I used to play loads and be really good, then stopped for 3 months.

[@ricotoffen822]

@@driverxone9453 if you don't know frame data you CANT be a good player.

[@driverxone9453]

Rico Toffen true. I’ve learnt my lesson and improved in those 2 years, believe me.

[@ajjohnson3416]

@@ricotoffen822 yes u can actually

[@gishac]

Very nice, simple, but powerful explanation. Good job.

[@friendlyghostval1591]

You always seem to know exactly what i need to get better at this game whenever you release a video haha thanks this was really helpful

[@JRFilms98]

Great video the audio quality and editing fits this style of video perfectly and even I player like me who doesn't know a whole lot got a good understanding of what frame data is! :)

[@juanroaguilo]

this is GOLD material, so much thanks!!!!!

[@JOEZAAM]

I needed this so much thank you!!!!

[@beaufort_14]

Okay I have a question. How does block advantage work on throws. I notice in the frame data that throws have both block and hit advantage. the hit advantage I understand, but how does the block advantage on throws work?

[@misternobody4644]

Beaufort14 This post is old, but I'll answer it anyway. There is no block advantage--you cannot block a throw. You can either break the throw (by guessing the right key press right when they grab you) or dodge the throw by holding the down key without blocking.

[@MaxPetHusk]

thanx!! very interesting info and a great quality lesson!!!

[@gambitgambitgambit]

i never understood this properly despite being subscribed for a while, great vid thanks

[@EJayMD-11]

This was very awesome, you guys are great at explaining.

[@franchisethebull]

So if there was a move that was 1000 hit advantage it still wouldn't combo? It confuses me. Is the ability to combo on ground an inherent trait of certain moves? Can I tell by the frame data?

[@newdrew2744]

Best video I've seen on frame date!

[@matthewlozy1140]

Great info, helps clarify the numbers.

[@MrOneiljj21]

Great video! I appreciate it and I'm damn sure the community appreciates it! But I'm just curious.....why do some moves have the - sign before its recovery frames? Does that mean it recovers faster than a move without a - sign? This applies mostly projectile moves. For example would a move that recovers in -30 frames recover faster than a move that recovers in 35 frames?

[@smokedjonathan]

awesome video. you guys are brilliant. really helped me understand frames

[@griglog228]

The stuff youve covered in the video is quite simple, but what about "cancel" advantage, the last of these 6 stats?

[@KageManTV]

Just great work guys! Thanks for making these. Great great stuff.

[@PNDKM]

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[@absbud_412]

+PNDKetchup LOL I'm my Mum's getting MKX for me today and it's still yet to come home...

[@absbud_412]

Who won? What's Next?!

[@lobopumpchainsavage]

What about frame Data of how long it takes to jump in the air or to fully run across the screen haven't found that don't know about jumps but obviously runs have different speed depending on character

[@BabyDroid03]

lol

[@1222dss]

+PNDKetchup Very useful stuff man. thanks

[@HalfGroxus]

Exactly what i need. Thank you very much!

[@robertdukarm2578]

This is the first fighting game that I took serious enough to learn frame data. Memorizing frame data is very powerful.

[@SuperBabyMario0C]

So how yo mk x career go?

[@marcc5353]

thank u thank u...u guys r a gem

[@7amo0od2000]

I hope you can make an extended version of this video.

[@harris2210]

thank you guys! you are great!

[@lfgamble3924]

Ive been scowering the entire net even testyourmight. I wanna know the data on run cancels. Like a list johnny cage and lui kang. How do i know by doing the math how plus a string into run cancel is, or if it will link on hit after a cancel with just the math???

[@F.Castle]

its about time someone make a video about this.. this is pretty late though

[@yocampout]

lovely explanation

[@domagojkersun9630]

The twins again making good videos!!!!!!!!

[@andros1486]

I see you finally made the name change to represent both of you, haha. Nice.

[@MrFace921o]

600 likes and 0 dislikes. Im truely amazed

[@lemoolscript]

Awesome! Thanks for this video!

[@Korebatsu]

KETCHUP I HAVE NEWS ! LUI KANG'S B1 BEATS KUNG LAO'S EX SPIN !!! THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY NEWS

[@Rammsteinpower]

why does recovery of projectiles has got a minus in front of the value ??

[@GalacticPrince0101]

Timing

[@ajjohnson3416]

What about when ur oppenent has frame advantage? I've had loads of people who do unsafe moves and mash after being negative & the game actually accepts the mash... Game clearly breaks its own rules by allowing others to mash

[@tloutryhard17]

Fucking A this vid couldn't have been any later. Would have saved me so much time :(

[@davidpena9720]

will y'all cover footsies?

[@Nanoculob]

Thanks, really helpful

[@Diego92Souza]

dude, do you think that (in the next game of course) they should remove all the frame data "in-game" (kinda like in the Street Fighter games) let the community discover by themselves, what is safe, and what is "minus", what it is punishable, etc... or do you think that this doesn't affect the way the community evolves ??

[@HallucinogenX]

+Diego De Souza Wow why would they do that?In fact every other game should show the frame data in-game.There are several people besides the "pros" who also play the game.

[@Diego92Souza]

Hallucinogen X that's the whole point (of my argument), the casual players don't know what frame data is (and the ones who know, don't care), and it would force the "pros" to lvl up !! but again, it's a question, i want their opinion... lel

[@HallucinogenX]

Diego De Souza Well frame data can be very helpful for the casual players and players who want to get better at the game and become pros themselves some day can really benefit from it.Finding out frame data imo is an unnecessary chore that scares away a lot of players.

[@medleyoz]

+Hallucinogen X totally agree and don't understand why street fighter 5 (beta at least) doesn't have in game frame data. especially when its just datamined from the pc version anyway

[@fgcaceninja]

+Diego De Souza No.. It helps the community alot. One way or another we'll find the correct frame data. Some stuff in the game still doesn't tell the frame data correctly.

[@СергейГалиуллин-п9ю]

Can you guys please make some video about adapting? I understand frame data, I know how to combo, I know how to hit confirm and stuff, but adapting with examples would be something real cool to watch. Also noone ever did a video about it, so you could be first.

[@MrJoshuaGray]

Nice work!

[@PyroInferno110]

omg im so glad i looked at this video

[@IamHopeman47]

can someone tell me why there are negative recovery frames? e.g. sub zero ice ball

[@GalacticPrince0101]

The move is slow

[@gimithmadawala1193]

This was more helpful 👏

[@addhado.o8450]

Please post full streams on your channel, we all want to see everyone play in king of the hills.

[@DaveSP196]

He plays music and stuff

[@addhado.o8450]

Fkin copyright

[@Kobetombrady]

+HiSoka Kurosaki Mortal Kombat X stfu

[@DaveSP196]

***** Wow. I don't really enjoy the 2-3 minute videos, I wish they were all for hour or two, you can tell you're not a actual fan. Ketchup and Mustard have real fans that want long videos, not just "2,3". I don't know if that is the way the music works but the music is pretty noticeable and by well known people.

[@PNDKM]

+kian griffiths Hisoka has been watching us for a very long time, actually. It's totally possible for people to have different opinions and tastes to one another. We don't upload full stream archives because I'm not a fan of using our youtube as a dumping ground for past broadcasts for lack of a better term. I'm much more interested in uploading highlights or specific awesome moments from streams instead. - Ketchup

[@iMorands]

3:15 I don't need luck, I have hellsparks, but thanks.

[@driverxone9453]

me too, I have soul balls. Oh wait, they're unsafe as fuck!

[@iMorands]

M MG hellsparks are also unsafe.

[@driverxone9453]

But you can meterburn the hellsparks to make them safe.

[@iMorands]

M MG But I need meter to do so, and Shinnok already uses meter to do everything, so I don't really always have it.

[@driverxone9453]

True

[@karazor-el967]

Thank you!

[@AshishKumar-es5xe]

Thanks man.

[@cdkobrax]

Interesting, very interesting

[@1c3sly13]

THANK YOU!

[@tharayn6933]

I remember when you just had to be up close in fighting games to land anything I hate frames I go all out in other fighting games except this

[@eduardoramirez837]

Nice, i still need to understand it more

[@fastnumber37]

Great Vid!!

[@nutsack6967]

What about cancel frames?

[@GalacticPrince0101]

Nut Sack be faster than the frame itself

[@curtischung5503]

Could someone explain to me the concept of Run-Cancels please?

[@smokedjonathan]

+Curtis Chung can extend combos and add pressure

[@Uhirgz]

As in how to do them or the usage?

[@curtischung5503]

Uhirgz how to do. tbh it doesnt really apply to me, since I have minimal access to the game and therefore can't practice them, but I'm still curious.

[@smokedjonathan]

+Curtis Chung do your fireball. then press fw fw and then block

[@N1C0707]

You can hold certain movers such as scorpions fireball, lui kangs fireball, and dvorahs bug for extended periods of time. During this extended time if you run the move will no longer come out and you can follow up with a different move.

[@yamcha111]

didnt you do a guide on frame data

[@afraid2losebalance303]

no they did not cuz i remember i requested it waiting but when they finally upload it i already know everything about the frame data !

[@yamcha111]

oh i guess better late than.... really late

[@PNDKM]

+yamcha111 We may have mentioned it in a Casual to Competitive video, but this is more streamlined and easier to access as a single video :)

[@afraid2losebalance303]

+PNDKetchup omg even though i know all the frame data i still got some new tips from this video thank you !

[@sionsylvestia1169]

Omg....only 1 dislike.....it’s unbelievable

[@kyelerbrant7595]

cryomancer advanced tutorial please?

[@fgcaceninja]

+Kyeler Brant F421+3 lol

[@kyelerbrant7595]

+FGCAceninja I think it is the sub zero that doesn't get played anymore. I play grandmaster pretty well but I like cryomancers strings

[@fgcaceninja]

Cryomancer is pretty damn good. Does huge damage now.

[@driverxone9453]

I like unbreakable 😓

[@beshamghost4572]

I really don't get it man

[@JOEZAAM]

thanks again and this should've been released a little earlier lol

[@KSlimsGaming]

A lot earlier

[@liquiddrone650]

Great video guys as always. But I wonder how come such important argument is explained in 3 minutes 20 only. There could be something more imho, it's a very broad discussion. Yo K&M Very clear explanation btw

[@PNDKM]

+Liquid Drone The point of these videos is to give a brief but clear explanation. These were heavily inspired by the format of the Kombat Class videos.

[@themark26]

If you can explaın the Actıve and Cancel frames, would be good.

[@FortunePayback]

Thank you sir. Though this would've been more helpful when I first started. Good stuff anyways.

[@driverxone9453]

me too, but I learned from myself.

[@gobyg-major2057]

Actually it says 21 not 23

[@jaythemikkaplayer2555]

Dont you hate when someone says spaming in a fighting game :/.

[@quintilla_1829]

Take a shot every time he says frames

[@MangaGamified]

RIP PC Abandonware

[@savageez09]

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