The Scorn for Simps

[@ana-isabel]

Glad you all are enjoying my simpology 101! ✌😀 Also friendly reminder that the first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/anaisabel04211! nawlidge cool nawlidge good

[@hesjustthisguyyaknow]

i had no idea you were from nawlins

[@Shockguey]

I do think there are some ethical concerns when it comes to these parasocial relationships. It is kind of insidious that Twitch is commodifying its' personalities as brands in order to monetize people with mental health issues (loneliness/depression). In the end it's not Twitch who suffers any of the downsides like death threats and unsolicited [anything]. There should be some more fail-safes in place to prevent this, especially on a platform that underage people can access. Though of course this just hurts their bottom line so It's not likely.

[@PracticalJoker19]

Yo checkout Fresh&Fit. I think you might find interesting perspectives.

[@inquisitorialllama638]

Hey, you should have brought Steven King's 'Misery'!! That was the Ultimate "Nice Girl" psycho and doubles as a rabid fan girl. I love that movie.

[@bunnyrabbitlives]

Girl, what's your skincare routine? I need help lol 😂🤣😂🤣 Yes this is a compliment 🤣😂🤣

[@andyn46]

I let one of my longtime best friends (who happens to be a female) stay at my place for a couple weeks while she was in between jobs. We didn’t sleep together, do anything more romantic than play Mario kart while having a few beers, and it was overall just helping a friend out. I was mocked as a simp by both coworkers and a few friends for doing this, and honestly I hate the term now lol. You almost can’t have a platonic friendship with the opposite sex without the dude being labeled a simp, ah love the internet

[@ana-isabel]

ARGH I HATE THIS ahaha as someone whose closest friends happen to mostly be male - it's insane how the idea of platonic friendship with the opposite sex is still doubted these days. God forbid you do favours like that for each other lol - the guy gets called a "simp" or the girl is automatically into them.

[@jjackson6082]

@Speckadactyl I hear ya. I had a friend who was a model, grew up with her she was my best friend’s girl for a long time before she passed. She had a bad breakup with someone and i went to go chill with her. We were drinking and watching comedies on her bed and never crossed my mind to try and take advantage of that friendship and vulnerability. She started opening up and crying and i just gave her a hug and offered comfort. Straight platonic, it doesnt make you less of a man. It makes you a more of a decent person

[@metallsnubben]

boyfriEND girlfriEND only Mario Kart: Double Dash has no END I think the really weird thing is if doing her a favour is simping because you're not getting the "compensation/payment" of romance... then what's the purpose of male friends? Does videogames and beer act as currency only between men?

[@AuspexAO]

You should have told them that you did get something out of it. You got a couple of weeks of hanging out with a friend and having fun playing with her. You should ask those coworkers and friends if they would have let you hang out at their place if you lost your job. My roommate is a friend (who happens to be a female) and she's great with making rent and leaves me the fuck alone. We don't have to fuck everyone we meet, lol.

[@kahldrialeighsun1208]

I wish I had a friend like you. All those sad people won't be on their deathbed wishing they didn't help that person that one time, nah, they will be wishing they weren't so alone.

[@stevegruber4724]

My Elder Millennial brain: What exactly *is* a simp? Ana Isabel: Take Gunther from Friends Me: Ah, now I get it

[@craig.a.glesner]

Elder Millennial?! Elder...Elder he says. Not as a Millennial, you don’t get Elder status till you pass that half century mark, geez what does that make my 55 year old ass, an Ancient Gen X? (I mean my friends would say yes, but they also say I threw fish on to land so they evolve into someone to hang out with. :))

[@stevegruber4724]

@@craig.a.glesner I was riffing on Iliza Shlesinger's "Elder Millennial" bit that I am an "elder" within the millennial cohort since I am right on the cusp of Gen X and Millennial. I fit some Millennial tropes, some Gen-X tropes, and almost no Gen Z tropes.

[@craig.a.glesner]

@@stevegruber4724 okay. Fair enough, I can resepect a cusp baby, I am too in a fashion.

[@roxyndra]

@@craig.a.glesner damn that's a great burn. your friends are hilarious!

[@craig.a.glesner]

@@roxyndra thanks, I try and keep the good ones.

[@TheDanibits]

Ana: "Ross is the funniest of the bunch" Chandler, the actual funniest one: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@hesjustthisguyyaknow]

if he were a joke to her, she'd think he was the funniest one.

[@ana-isabel]

Yo Ross is undeniably the bigger clown 😂

[@andrewt836]

@@hesjustthisguyyaknow u simpin?

[@Cenriquezm]

As a kid I found Chandler's jokes the funniest, but eventually I outgrew his sarcastic quips and now find Ross' mannerisms to be hilarious, which I then found cringy.

[@saga685]

Disappointed that you didn't write "could I *BE* any funnier?" for Chandler. for shame!

[@lazyhammerwieldingpenguin2247]

"If you ever look after a girl's kids just because they're your grandchildren, you are a SIMP" - someone probably

[@autumneagle]

If you ever give a girl money to go to the movies with her 'friends' (even though it's probably another guy!) just because she is your Daughter then you're a SIMP- Some internet bro somewhere

[@agilagilsen8714]

Well, that's just simping and taking care of some other dudes kids with extra steps. Obvious simp behaviour right there. If it involves a man and a women, simp. Always simp.

[@ExeErdna]

Only if the mother is dumping the kids off instead of raising them properly. If the kids are with grandparents more than the parents then it's a whole nother problem

[@elgatofelix8917]

Nice strawman. Fact is: Only eThots afraid of losing their simps proclaim the term "simp" is overused

[@SeymourDisapproves]

@@ExeErdna yeah, because who's ever heard of a mom having to be the primary breadwinner in a family lmao

[@irinag5254]

The internet’s ability to ruin everything makes me sad, but the fact that the internet contains this video cheers me up again

[@hugofontes5708]

I hope the internet takes a while to ruin this video

[@maddo7192]

Hey... are you simping around here or what? 😂

[@nobodythenobody9779]

Ofc women would praise simps 😂 but hate on “pick mes” Makes it easier to take advantage of us dosent it

[@jdzspace33]

One thing that you didn't mention as far as the concept of a simp in pop culture is how in almost all popular media from childhood to adolescents we consistently see the "good guy" who "loves" some girl who either doesn't know he exists, doesn't like him or out and out dislikes him, and yet in the 3rd act of literally every single story where such a dynamic exists the guy "gets the girl". From Harry Potter to Star Wars and all spots in between. The irony is that those who actually penned these stories are likely people who felt that way towards girls in their adolescence but did not get the "happy ending". We are taught to persevere, to be the "good guy" and eventually the girl will "see your worth". It takes some MUCH longer than others to understand that is not how the real world works and undoubtedly has a real effect on why simps do what they do. Sure there are other, arguably bigger culprits like you mentioned e.g. entitlement, sexism, culturally enforced gender roles, blah blah gender studies degree (no offense to any gender studies degree holders).....but there is also a less insidious cause as well that does deserve a mention

[@Okutox]

This^^^ the real world dispels those illusions real quickly. Cant argue against results.

[@kamenwaticlients]

Yes very true and often overlooked. But since that does not fit the current accepted talking points it will remained ignored or side lined.

[@vee1267]

Underrated comment

[@cultreader9751]

Eh, I don't think persistence is necessarily bad. Sometimes you really can convince her to give you a chance. It depends on your attitude and how you go about earning approval, rather than what you do necessarily. To provide an anecdote, most of the happiest couples I know featured women that mentioned when asked that their significant others "weren't their type", or didnt impress them much initially.

[@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan]

Ewww why are you "blaming Canada" (blaming media for things).

[@adamboyle9000]

I think that the biggest thing you missed in this is that a lot of this comes from insecurity - the fear of being a "simp" or being a "beta". Calling someone one of those things can be a way of distancing yourself from those concepts, a way of placing yourself above the simp. It's pretty sad because a lot of terminally online guys seem to genuinely not believe it's possible to interact with a woman without either being a simp that grovels at their feet, or a chad who women immediately throw themselves at, which leads them to trying to make sure that everyone knows that of all things, "they are not a simp".

[@ana-isabel]

Really well said! I think my overview of one's desire to subscribe to the typical "chad/alpha male" image ties into this; but yes, a lot of this roots from insecurity issues for sure.

[@michaelschipper1099]

This is by far the biggest reason why I have a hard time relating to women even on a friend level. They either automatically think I am a creep because I am soft spoken or they ignore me due to gender norms. It is kinda hard because 90% of my coworkers are women. I just don't click with most women to begin with so I am trying to accept that maybe if I dont idolize a relationship I can enjoy myself in the present.

[@michaelschipper1099]

One super serious non me related point a lot of these people are under medicated and health insurance sucks right now. A lot of this is serious unchecked mental illness.

[@hugofontes5708]

@@michaelschipper1099 I hope you can get around that. Not sure exactly how this is going on for you but hopefully it's more about how you perceive things getting in your way

[@TubemastaC]

@@michaelschipper1099 if they ignore you, they ignore you. cant help that. It does help to try and treat women more like you would a "bro". It immediately puts it out of their mind you might be hitting on them, or that you have any ill-will in general. If your work environement is more formal, then thats fine keeping it professional, but also you can also try to just breach the gender gap by trating them more akin to how you would a man (not exactly becxause social norms)

[@AnIllinoisan]

I get serious Claude Frolo vibes from these guys yelling at e-girls. I mean, I’m a fan of when they start to cross the border into the porn-y category, but self-restraint is a virtue those guys don’t practice. Then they verbally abuse those women and mount an unholy virtual crusade instead of looking inward and seeing their own deficiencies.

[@viktorbodnar7738]

"she was asking for it, why did she wear that *insert clothing of choice*" Or why the Quoran requires women to wear a hijab outside their home. Shifting responsibility from men to women because they cannot (or don't want to ) control their urges.

[@otomicans6580]

Cruel labels aside, if you're overly drawn to someone, and they're not interested, it's probably time to distance yourself from that friendship/clique.

[@destroyerofworlds9860]

Agreed. As much as I hate to admit it, I was like that for a majority of Highschool. Not only are you hurting the person you're supposedly crushing over, you're also just making yourself miserable.

[@thepedrothethethe6151]

I honestly feel sad from men who donate to those streamers. They could use their money and time to find someone, but rather than doing that they reinforce what media has taught them.

[@justinallen2408]

It's sad

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

If they’re doing it cause they’re having a good time and appreciate the woman genuinely, then I don’t see a problem. If they’re doing it completely just for attention then I find it sad.

[@nobodythenobody9779]

@@TheSlipperyNUwUdlethey aren’t doing it because their life is good, they are doing it because they are mentally I’ll and miserable Ofc you wouldn’t see a problem with guys giving you money tho, because we are only seen as wallets

[@plapln9347]

Please please PLEASE do that video on how popular media with large female fandoms are generally looked at differently

[@Joe-yz7qx]

So . . . a Lindsey Ellis video?

[@welshbandit7208]

@@Joe-yz7qx no lies here. Her "Dear Stephanie Meyer" video is basically that.

[@mchagnon7]

Jacob from Twilight is the male equivilent of an e-girl.

[@Ettrix]

K Pop fans are female Simps , there are just different words for the same core behaviors.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@mchagnon7 the male equivalent of an e-girl, is an e-boy

[@jwaffles9269]

This might be difficult to do with KZbin’s guidelines, but it could be interesting to do a deep dive into “fetish culture”. My initial idea was to talk about furries and how they are a very well known group on the internet, and how despite generally being considered a sexual niche they are more public about themselves than something like bdsm culture.

[@ana-isabel]

This is super interesting; I'll keep this in mind! 😃

[@rubenaalexander5007]

So basically you're saying furries aren't a fetishised aesthetic? When I say 'fetishised aethetic', I mean furry porn is just regular porn but with animal-humanoid hybrids. BDSM isn't just an aesthetic, it's more active I'd say and in the moment, hence why I wouldn't call it 'porn'. I just don't get why you'd compare something people look like to something people actually do. AND I'm asking if people somehow ACTIVELY use furries in sex so it's actually comparable.

[@tonysmith9905]

@@rubenaalexander5007 You really haven't dived into the furrydom have you? It's not just an aesthetic for them either, it can be a whole life style just like BDSM. I'm not a furry myself but kinks/fetishes is a big area I'm interested, especially in the psychology department. I've met and spoke with lots of furries both RL and online ones. If you've never really seen it you'd probably have your mind blown.

[@okami425]

My only concern for furries, are the few I suspect are trying to use it as a sort of long-term escapism or replacement for the reality their cause they can make a better fantasy version. Doubt is huge percent of them if any at all, I just think some of them get close to it.

[@okami425]

@@rubenaalexander5007 from what I understand the whole fursuits in bed thing, is a fetish and it's actually seperate from the actual furry thing. I don't remember the name of the fetish exactly, but it's got more to do with an attraction to anthropomorphic animals or beings, more than it does the furry community coming together as a community holding events and making art music etc. I could be wrong, I'm not part of that internet community or subculture. I hope understood the comment right and helped bring some clarity. Being human I reserve the right to be wrong as well, Im no genius super alien. Just a humble animal making it through life.

[@SnakesGames]

Gomez simps for Morticia because that's exactly what she gets off to. We should all be like Gomez with our partners. To be clear, I mean make sure to listen and look for feedback on various interactions to grow together.

[@craig.a.glesner]

Oh, totes love for Addams Family, the whole lot were righteous peeps.

[@sindigler3612]

Is it really simping if shes your wife?

[@SnakesGames]

@@sindigler3612 as far as I'm aware, yes. Just cause it's associated with creeps worshipping people they don't even know doesn't mean people can't do it with their partners.

[@Ettrix]

It seems you mis-understand the concept of a simp... Gomez is def "getting it in", so he is not a simp. A simp is someone who does what Gomez does, yet never "gets it in", receives no love/attention in return, and is in denial of footing-the-bill or being a paying customer (for no return) ... yet still believes to be in some kind of relationship "more special" than a paying customer (or financial doormat) Simps are Sugar Daddies who get no Sugar and never get called Daddy.

[@ViralAgent1]

It’s not simping is she’s returning his affection.

[@metanoiia_]

When my father was dying my best male friend bought me a hoodie i liked a lot, found a job which was related to my career, and gave me what was worth 300 dollars in soles(which is a lot for my country) out of the blue and yet there were people calling him a simp just for being a decent human being when i was going through my darkest hours. i think the term doesn't even have a meaning anymore. on the other hand i have a stalker that really falls into the definition of the real simp, with the nice guy included, i get so freaked out each time he writes me again even tho i blocked him on every social media platform, he even have old drawings i gave him when i met him because i like to draw and if im drawing in the moment and you like it i just give it to you, it didnt really meant anything special and he still has it after 8 years, he writes me on my instagram saying i was his first love and that im special to him, i didn't even know him that well..it is very scary...

[@imjustchillin3538]

So how did you reciprocate your friends kindness?

[@metanoiia_]

@@imjustchillin3538 by being descent human beings with each other? izi pizi, when people do something good for someone they aren't necessarily waiting for something in return, but if he is ever going through something bad i wouldn't doubt in helping him, not because he helped me but because friends can love each other without being sexual. I also bought valheim for him so we could play together but that was just because i like spending time with him and i though he would like the game, not because he helped me.

[@Romana6794]

@@imjustchillin3538 A friend's acts of kindness, kind of like friendship itself, are not transactional.

[@franklin_johnson01]

​@@Romana6794 so you are saying one can take advantage of the other

[@IslanKleinknecht]

The first time I started hearing 'simp', it seemed to be getting thrown at any man that gave basic respect / common courtesy towards women.

[@bullo247]

Using Knives as an example of a female simp was an odd choice. She was in a relationship with Scott at the time and much younger. Then, afterwards she just had misguided anger towards Ramona when she should've beeen angry at Scott for not giving her the closure she needed

[@ana-isabel]

Hmm I think she falls under the category of "worshipping" or unnecessarily placing Scott up in a pedestal. I feel like male simps would be more inclined to resent those who manage to win over the object of their affections, much like how Knives attacked Ramona for dating Scott (even though she clearly should've been angry at the dude for cheating instead).

[@bullo247]

@@ana-isabel Fair point. I do think the fact that she was a young lass made it a bit less simpy and a bit more just how a younger person would act when in a relationship, maybe even trying to act mature by taking it super seriously in her point of view. Great video by the way!

[@CaulkMongler]

@@bullo247 I would ask, how would we feel about this theoretical situation: a guy who didn’t get closure from an arguably crappy girl, who’s hopped into another relationship already, but holds onto the idea that if he could prove himself better than that other guy he’d finally be able to get with the girl. But as you said, he was young and the girl should’ve let him down better. Would you consider that a simp or not?

[@bullo247]

@@CaulkMongler not really. I think the age thing plays a big thing in my mind. She did also get with Young Neil though that was fake. Doesnt strike me as a simp move

[@Telimency]

@@bullo247 i don't think age is requirement for being simp. I's more about sex drive and desperation to be loved. There are simps among high school boys, at least there was one in my school. He broke his arm to show a girl (who quickly started to avoid him, after befrending) that he loves her and would do anything for her.

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

I think the main difference between the modern concept of the simp and the "fedoralord" or "gentleman sir" of yore is that the simp has the insight to understand he has no real chance, and chooses to lavish the subject of his obsession with largesse for his own sense of martyrdom, while the gentleman sir is delusional, lacking the social awareness to understand that a trilby, pimples, GWAR t-shirt, and patchy teen moustache does not in fact make him irresistable to the woman he has selected to be his manic pixie dream grrl.

[@cuac232]

I hate the word simp because in the end it makes men treat women worse out of fear of being called a simp :(

[@craig.a.glesner]

Not actual men, I’m totes secure in my manhood and unlike those weak willed, lazy crap sacks I did get the ultrasex. Funny thing that kinda negates the idea that a) a simp, and b) less of man. I mean did get the booty from well, a goodly number.

[@RoguSpanish]

It probably does, yeah, cause I can say from experience that roughly 100% of the times I've been called a simp in my life, it was cause I didn't hate a woman who everyone else was hating on, usually after asking why they hate her and not getting a satisfactory or even coherent answer.

[@mitchmaule6517]

Not true

[@ojosmacabros]

Just like the phrase "nice guy" didn't lead to men treating women badly neither will "simp". This is just an excuse to be a dick

[@hugofontes5708]

@@craig.a.glesner was this a joke?

[@hectic_fgc509]

Excellent video. I've long been irritated by the overuse of words on the internet and having someone explain the degradation of language makes me feel less lonely

[@calixocat5300]

such a high quality well made video but soooo underrated 😭😭😭 pls youtube algorithm do something about this

[@kanakawase]

"Especially Ross, who he holds a deep unjustified hatred for." No, no, no! Ross hatred is never unjustified!

[@inquisitorialllama638]

WE WERE ON A BREAK!!

[@krackakrames]

WE GET IT! You're Intelligent, Hot, and well-spoken... Wait what was I complaining about?

[@rayres1074]

Ooh boy, we caught one here haven't we?

[@lolgetrektnoob6970]

Ladies and gentlemen, we caught em

[@darkinstinctful123]

Okay seriously how does this channel not have at least 500k subs. This is outrageous.

[@Rabbit-the-One]

Bro, she will soon. She doubled from like 10k to 20k just like 4 videos ago. This one is going places.

[@sawkchalk6966]

Yeah this stuff is quality

[@chickrepelant]

i know, right?! one of my favorite creators RN . . but Cosmonaut the GOAT

[@Roflo13east]

Wow okay simp /s

[@jjackson6082]

@Rabbit the One, you right. I think it was at ~14k when i subscribed and it wasnt that long ago. She hit that algorithm sweet spot to be recommended to me because of other vids i watch like this

[@ramontavaresdacruz2256]

Thanos, Death and Deadpool have a similar relationship to Pam, Jim and Toby. Death has seemed to take a fascination with the mercenary Deadpool, appearing to him on several occasions in the context of a somewhat romantic nature. The implications of this are still a mystery, even to Deadpool. This caused Thanos to curse Deadpool with immortality, and I find that curse so funny xD

[@LaytonObserves]

I simp for the level of dedication, research and editing prowess this video took

[@ana-isabel]

Thank youu! 🙏

[@craig.a.glesner]

Totes.

[@Necroskull388]

Fr though, Ana is pretty but her ability to make thoughtful essays like this is the most attractive thing about her for me

[@aoeuable]

Next up: Cute catgirl therapists offering psychological and relationship advice on twitch.

[@andrewt836]

Please tell me this isn’t a thing!?!

[@knijk]

If you replace cat ears with occasional bunny ears and add a lot of swearing tics, Sweet Anita would fit that definition.

[@pv7174]

HealthyGamer_GG already does that, but without the cat ears.

[@craig.a.glesner]

@@andrewt836 why not? I mean if it helps people out, why the hell not?

[@pyxylation]

Sounds like the perfect job for a VTuber!

[@Zalazaar]

Gambling is consentual too, doesn't mean it's not predatory. Especially when Twitch has an underage audience

[@damnitjim1767]

I'm basically a simp for everyone I ever meet because at its core, life is suffering. Why not choose kindness?

[@davidfosford]

Being kind doesnt make you a simp.

[@yoboyajax5983]

I agree with almost everything here but I think it's important to remember that there is a difference between a guy simping over a twitch streamer and a girl simping over a celeb. The difference is exemplified in the video even. People who simp over streamers communicate with them regularly, and have the opportunity to develope extremely unhealthy thoughts and behaviors relating to this avenue of communication.

[@josephmorris3778]

Ironically, by changing Thanos's motivations in the movies, they made the comics from the 70s more relevant to modern cultural discussions. Well, at least more people are reading comics nowadays.

[@issahumps]

Ross without laugh track videos really change his vibe 😳

[@JTX30000]

You forgot "simp" as in "simpleton". Someone who can't and doesn't see the complexity in most situations. or simp as in someone who is easily manipulated. Also simp as in someone who pays for only fans subscriptions.

[@diegowushu]

I'll never understand giving money to a streamer. I only pay for both convenience and professionally created content (Steam, Netflix). That said, what other people do with their money is their business, unless it's an actual mental issue that compels you to do it, that should get treatment like any other mental illness. IMO the actual fact behind it all is that people get more and more disconnected and try to find social spaces where no reciprocity could exist or it's profoundly superficial and fleeting. And I say this a someone with zero (0) friends.

[@leetri]

It's really no difference than paying for any other content. The streamer creates something that you perceive as valuable (entertainment), so you donate to show your appreciation of the content. They spent their time entertaining you, so you pay for their time with money. Generally it's just a nice gesture like "I've watched your content for several years, here's 20 bucks to show my appreciation", but sometimes it does take on more nefarious tones as outlined in the video.

[@Cosmoproto]

@@leetri Essentially, if you enjoy something and keep wanting to have more of it, somebody has got to pay for it.

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

I donate a few dollars here or there to show my appreciation to youtubers when they live stream sometimes. I just want them to know I really like the work they do.

[@Cruelty-Torture]

Hope you find some friends. Makes life easier / worthwhile. Be well.

[@Beto_Serrano]

Me: *Treats a woman with the minimal level of human decency.* Some dude with an unwashed ass: S I M P!

[@franklin_johnson01]

Does that really happen ?

[@Beto_Serrano]

@@franklin_johnson01 Man, it's happened to me many, many times. It does, however, happen more often if the woman in question is a model or does sw.

[@franklin_johnson01]

@@Beto_Serrano well tbh ...simps treat only women good...there's obviously a valid reason simps are hated

[@Beto_Serrano]

@@franklin_johnson01 Yeh. There is an evident and fundamental problem with simps. However, what I am talking about is not people actually being simps, but rather individuals being accused of such just for not joining up on the hate train against women.

[@franklin_johnson01]

@@Beto_Serrano is it really that common? I have never seen anyone calling someone a simp who is not a simp even after spending a considerable amount of time on internet every day.

[@crytkryssus9851]

The end of life for Simp is basically what we did to the word Weeaboo. Using it a joking self-depreciating manner.

[@minhdo3482]

Well spoken. So eloquent. Great vid

[@_Rinacchi]

I really love the deep dive in this video! I agree with a lot of what you said, but I would give Crazy Ex Girlfriend a lot more credit! The show does a great job at expressing how Rebecca's actions are not okay, and even has a male character do and say the same things to express the horrible double standard. Additionally Rebecca gets a lot of development and grows into a good person when she seek out the proper mental health care for these terrible behaviors.

[@ebrim5013]

This was a fantastic lesson in something I knew basically nothing about (a number of things really). Ana Isabel, keeping me even vaguely on top of pop culture one video at a time. Thanks!

[@omarm803]

a simp is someone who doesnt judge a girl base on her character or her contant but bas on her look and would dihumanize themselves in the hope of her attention and effection

[@lizstrikesgames4367]

That [redacted] from [redacted] clip of him touching the girls shoulder to "get her attention" gets me every time.

[@wyattbranham4919]

Simps are usually born from desperation and loneliness. A lot of women are, in my opinion, unnecessarily cruel to these young guys, who are already down and out. Which leads to an acceleration into rage in their isolation. I feel for these men, because they buy into the idea promoted by the majority that you need to have a relationship to have fulfillment. Mgtow hates these guys because they're hopelessly drowning in a shallow pool they could simply step out of it, and find something better for themselves.

[@joshjonson2368]

So they're weak men, well the weak only exist to be stepped on so what's new about it continuing to happen?

[@MichaelH3054]

Lol she said (hoop-tie)!

[@Bridget466]

I’ll admit I got a small boost of Serotonin from seeing clips of Valkyrae and Emma in this video. I’m definitely looking at the Thanos simp video next. Thanks for the fun educational half hour!

[@ana-isabel]

Dude gives such fun insight into the actual backstory of Thanos ahaha, its great. And thanks for watching!!! 😄

[@craig.a.glesner]

Okay, as a dude who read the AVENGERS comics that are the current MCU AVENGERS I’m actually salty they didn’t keep Thanos’ real reason for snapping out half of all life, it made thematic sense and made him a proper villain and not a cheap dime store wannabe philosopher who doesn’t understand the concept of an infinite universe even when he has full-on god power and should have noticed the fact right away.

[@linseyspolidoro5122]

I think one of the most common usages of ‘simp’ I see online nowadays is when any man defends or agrees with a woman about anything especially if it involves feminism or something from a woman’s perspective. Essentially it has just usurped the phrase ‘white knighting’ in a lot of comment threads and that phrase was already often being egregiously misused more often than not.

[@craig.a.glesner]

@John Dunn how so?

[@SenorGuina]

@John Dunn If you're a piece of shit maybe

[@PinkCatsy]

I think even the list of criteria you shared had the built-in capacity for the expanded more misogynistic definition - particularly "a female who doesn't bring anything to the table". The term simp is not just a put-down on the male in that usage, but also puts down the female he is simping for by implying that she's not worth it. So if you don't think women are worth anything, like MGTOWs do, then even the smallest gesture does qualify as simping. Just wanted to add that.

[@jandrashriker5861]

The logic at 23:46 is exactly what Nancy Reagan said at the height of the drug war "Just say No." It's a good video overall but if Men think this video is going to help them or provide any kind of direction with their issues, they are only going to spiral downwards.

[@keeganseck7751]

It's funny how you bring up You as the male version of Crazy Ex Girlfriend despite CXG already having a male version of Rebecca in Trent.

[@rayres1074]

Simp, incel and karen and some of the very useful and specific terms internet has sadly ruined to mean literally anything.

[@FAYcampers]

I simp for these good ass video essays

[@arklados3596]

I simp for Ana Isabel

[@confuzionn4843]

This is a pretty great video, well researched, thoughtfully written, and has obviously a lot of great work put into it.

[@happybuttersblast8334]

Thank god the woman I simped for married me. That could of been real embarrassing..... Nevermind, she just told me I am embarrassing.. lol ouch.

[@danielmuller2695]

Disagree on one thing. Egirls farming dudes is nothing other than lovescamming. Just like this one tinder guy that has gotten a Netflix movie of his love scamming.

[@callumg3330]

Mikefrompa’s entire online presence is an attempt to make up for that clip of him at 0:12

[@adamboyle9000]

he was one guy I was not expecting to show up in an Ana Isabel video

[@CPSPD]

WHATS A TIFF?????

[@matthewgoodman7588]

Redacted from Clowntown makes himself look worse at least once a week.

[@ChrisWMF]

i was just watching "the net" (1995) a few days ago and Sandra Bullocks character called herself a simp for helping a male colleague with one of his work projects. XD

[@Itharl]

The research for this one must have been...SO awesome. Thank you for your service. o7

[@simontmn]

I read that as "Thank you for your fanservice" :D

[@R0B1NG5]

I think the internet and rise of streaming/video content has created more investible, "personal" feeling para-social relationships left and right. And that obviously extends to sexual or romantic relationships. Which also interacts with the uneven dynamics people may observe in the real world between the sexes in term of dating, and advantages they perceive other sex to have in that arena. I think a lot of less than sociable guys have gravitated towards the internet pretty naturally and a combination of community and these parasocial displays creeping into the space over time has created and codified these concepts. These people are drawn to attractive women "publicly" on the internet, but in turn, also many form a resentment. And its not even necessarily two completely separate groups. Although it generally is, I have literally witnessed people "simp" for lack of a better term for one attractive female in the online space, while becoming frustrated with the fans of several others and dismissing their actions and words as being form "simps" and not being valid. I think the personal connection they feel basically clouds their views and gives them a blind spot for "their guy" or girl. I think this resentment is not that uncommon as frustration with dating or relationship success can very easily lead someone down that thought process. That resentment of a perceived unfair female "power over weak men" in combination with their own lack of progress or "achievement" romantically is highly potent to some people, with the extreme endpoint causing them to hate women and any forms of non traditional masculinity expressed by men. So of course, the term very quickly gets a completely derogatory connotation.

[@watcher8582]

This one felt a bit like "their internet bubble vs. my internet bubble."

[@Optiganone]

Yeah, if this was a pure rant it would be a pain to watch, but the way this video trying to be somewhat encyclopedic about real life lore makes it a little bit entertaining for me

[@aja968]

Really love your videos, they are so informative and well edited! You explain these things so well. Also, the Beatles poster in background doesn’t hurt 😉

[@xagonent4942]

You know I never heard the term SIMP until I left college back in 2013 and with the whole Elliot Roger thing I realized that there was a lot of confusion out there in the dating world. I never dated in my life and I can honestly say at 31 I don't see the point in having animosity towards a soul. Just like you mention you are responsible for your own happiness. I can't date but I found things in life that makes it fulfilling. I respect the MGTOW, Incel, and PUA people the same as I do Flat Earthers in the sense that they are lost people who want to find a place to belong. Something to identify with and have like minded people. Sure women confuse me but why waste my time hating them or have a bitter taste over men who are successful in dating? Life is too short man. Find your own lane and work with it. If you don't like something just avoid it and move on. Anyway great video!

[@themostbestwizard]

If you are trying to figure out if someone in your life is a simp, look at how he treats other people. If he's nice to everyone (including other men) he might just be nice. If he's only nice to YOU on the other hand, he's a simp.

[@danielmuller2695]

Yes, this helps. And you can see how the woman or partner reacts if you are nice to other people. Those she get toxic? Is she saying you are flirting with the waitress?

[@chocodoco4855]

HAHAHA, not even 15 seconds and I'm spoiled with THAT clip of Mike from PA, this is great.

[@bloozby8496]

SIMP!!!

[@henryzelman4541]

Destiny going over those clips is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen lmao

[@jigglycarollo805]

I really want an updated version of this video trying to figure out the newer meme of calling girls being nice to men online "feds".

[@swishyclang9175]

I really like self-conscious fan acknowledgement like simp, trash, and stan - there's something about putting it out there that you're self-aware enough to know that not everyone is likely to be as interested in [thing] as you are. Honestly, though, I'm not an authority on this stuff, because I am old.

[@jjackson6082]

@swishyclang Yeah stan is just exaggerated word for super fan. My dad stans ohio state football. My brother stan’d WoW for over 10 years, i’m stanning the shit outta Dresden Files audiobooks right now and ive been stan for countless other things

[@ExeErdna]

@@jjackson6082 Stan isn't super fan, Stan is legit "stalker + fan"

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

@@ExeErdna that’s what it originally meant. Definitions change with time. Now it’s mostly an amusing word for being a fan.

[@ExeErdna]

@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle People forget Eminem's "Stan" was a warning not something to clap about. There's a lot more "stalker + fans" than ever

[@laioren]

Another great vid. I also thought you did a really good job being fair and considerate about the subject and anyone involved with it. Not an easy task!

[@mang_emil]

Can I be your 'simp'? Kidding aside, really great video essay - high quality.

[@ultimatevexation8782]

Show not tell 💰💰💰

[@Rabbit-the-One]

I remember hearing it as a shortened version od "simpleton" as a remark towards how one would have to be simpleminded to "fall for the grift" and think givong money would have a grear effect.

[@Mune.T]

I feel like this is able to somehow be tied to the "i am not your friend" video by ludwig

[@Antagonist24]

I came across this channel a while back and I just don't understand how it hasn't more subscribers. She is so well articulated, informative and has a voice I could listen to all day

[@smileyp4535]

Omg the mgtow shit at ~16:00 littlerally on an emotional rant about how woman are feelings and men are logical, again in a rant based ENTIRELY in emotion 😂

[@gabrielortiz3811]

Ironic isn't? Very hypocritical thou but it's a woman what did we expect.

[@smileyp4535]

@@gabrielortiz3811 what the hell are you talking about? 😂

[@Mr.En1gm4]

28:00 In fact, we don't have to imagine, Trent exists.

[@Nassit-Gnuoy]

From what I heard, people were giving iDubbz shit cause of his girlfriend cause of other content he’s made on girls with Onlyfans.

[@deleteduser121]

What is most sad is that even women on twitch etc.. talk shit on so called "simps". Banning them in chat. Not respecting there own bread and butter. But still wanting all their money.

[@jakescott431]

Looks like my copyright tips were useful ;)

[@ana-isabel]

They were haha - thanks! :D

[@SinnerChrono]

There are people who prefer to not date and just do their own thing. I dont think that makes them misogynists. Just because im not good with social skills and have impossible to meet standards doesnt mean i hate women or anything like that. I learned to just like my life as is and found satisfaction in other things not dating. I have female and male friends. I have a social life. I just choose not to involve myself romanticly with people. By labeling anyone who chooses to remove themselves from the dating market as "bad" is disingenuous and harmful to people who are out of the normal cycle of reproduction.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

"we've explored the evolution of the Simp meme" and it was quite the half hour indeed

[@RealShinpin]

Simps are just people with extreme confidence and social issues. When my kindness gets categorized as "simping" I just stop being kind, sucks, but that's what someone gets when they're an asshole.

[@Azazreal]

Ross never really becomes a Simp, he always at least tries with the girl. Lets not mix up simping and just having a crush. You can crush after someone, its perfectly normal, attraction happens. Its only harmful behavior if you start doing nice things for that person in the hopes of ''getting'' with them. If you like someone, either tell them or move on. Ross does fail to tell Rachel early on but he also doesnt just hang around her, they both date before they eventually get together. His behavior afterwards......yea thats a total different mess. Lets just remember that the 90s had some different views, hence Gunter being a point of comedy rather than uncomfortable like he would be today. Amusingly yes Thanos in the comics is actually a total 100% simp. Not only did he do everything you mentioned but he is also the reason Deadpool cannot die in the comics because Lady Death actually fancies HIM instead. Deadpool doesnt just have a really strong healing factor in the comics, nope Thanos literally made him immortal because he be simping so hard.

[@craig.a.glesner]

I’d forgot about that part. Nice call. The Deadpool thing.

[@Zyphera]

It's abit more complex then that. Some simp so hard they can't function. Others are hardly simps at all.

[@CS-nw9si]

Been rewatching The Wonder Years, it's one of my favorite shows but Kevin Arnold, the main character, spends the entirety of the series simping over Winnie Cooper and it's hard to watch. I really wanna hear someone do a deep dive on this show.

[@TrueYellowDart]

I haven’t watched that show since it first aired. But those kids were pretty young and, by definition, are not yet mature and are trying to learn how to navigate relationships. But Wonder Years was a great show and a deep dive could indeed be very cool (but that’s a lot of episodes).

[@Jaynevermore319]

In my younger years I was definitely Ross levels of simp. I’m talk’n “Nice guy” red flags. I snapped out of it eventually. On the subject of being called a simp for not being a horrible person, I’m reminded that people suck sometimes. They seem to be the loudest people in the crowd.

[@superrob1500]

I think you meant you like David Schwimmer cause if Ross was ever charming it was all him. Played by anyone else, Ross would be a psycho.

[@johnbuscher]

I actually disagree that it was a good thing Thanos' motivation was changed. He went from "Very obviously derranged" to "Wait isn't this supposed to be Doom's Schtick?" Doctor Doom wants power to "save" the world from itself, Thanos doing it for "balance" seemed too similar. Making him a derranged psycho over Death makes it slightly more boring in motivation, but far easier to hate (and thus love to hate as the audience when we cheer for our heroes).

[@b.e.z6831]

It's hard for me not to simp for this girl that's is explaining what simping is. Simpception

[@justinallen2408]

It's called self control and to view women not as sexual objects but humans like you and I then put yourself in their shoes and look at yourself.... maybe you'll find that this simping looks quite sad and pathetic

[@JazzyGreen578]

Loved the video and can never find enough creators that use this format

[@RozenKitten]

I’ve always been a “simpette” always going the extra mile for guys I adored (like secretly learning how to bake their favorite sweets) only to constantly get dumped/ rejected for someone that gave 0 fks for them. And the only time I got my own “simp” it was my ex husband (but only after I left him for being abusive) he would randomly bring me a whole cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory, transfer money into my account, show up at my new address, break in…… you know classic stalker entitled sht movies claim women love… all I wanted was for a guy I’m into to do the things I do for them while I’m still into them, why is that so hard? And the guys I’m into aren’t even those “alphas” or “betas” or whatever, they’re like mid tier? And they’re sweet till we get together, complete 180 😓

[@juliethompson4899]

@8:15 "affection they feel entitled too" is funny to hear a woman say that about a man

[@TrueYellowDart]

Terms like “simp” are just new slang for “sissy/girly/p-ssy” or anything that denotes feminine qualities in a male (which is anathema to insecure men). Such insecure men cannot/will not recognize that all psychological traits in humans exist within all of us, but based in a variety of life factors, individuals will express these traits in different ways and at differing levels. Yes, some traits/expressions will skew to various demographics but almost never in a wholly binary present/absent dynamic (such examples do exist but in numbers so small you can’t generalize those examples to ALL OF HUMANITY).

[@marshallgaming4422]

I disagree, if a guy likes “ insert typical female hobby” he wouldn’t be called a simp. The core idea behind simping is a man who having given up on real life relationships tries to fill their need for companionship with parasocial online relationships. It has nothing to do with expressing feminine qualities.

[@TrueYellowDart]

@@marshallgaming4422 If it stayed narrowly defined, you’d be mostly correct. But just like “cuck” it’s already becoming more generalized and devolving into a very vague “weak vs strong” dynamic. Simps, cucks, betas...these denote “you are not meeting the standards of masculinity”.

[@marshallgaming4422]

@@TrueYellowDart It’s true that improper utilization of these terms has led to an abstraction of their intended purpose. Ultimately the definition of a word is highly dependent upon the context and the individual using it. This also is true for nebulous concepts such as femininity and masculinity. I find it to be interesting that all of these terms focus on wether a man gets female validation. Cuck and simp are used to disparage men who demean themselves for female validation. While beta is a man who doesn’t receive female validation. All of them are rooted in the unhealthy idea that a mans worth is dependent upon receiving female attention. Honestly I don’t understand how these terms are related to feminine qualities, even when used in a broad sense. A trait that doesn’t meet the standards of masculinity doesn’t dictate that the trait is feminine. Calling someone a pussy is synonymous with cowardice. This comes from the stereotype of a cowardly woman. But does the term in its modern use imply that the target is female or that they’re a coward? I’d argue the latter, but the association is still present. If you could provide some hypothetical scenarios where simp, cuck, and beta are attributed to a man with feminine qualities I’d appreciate it, I’m stuck in my own definitions for the terms and can’t understand your position.

[@TrueYellowDart]

@@marshallgaming4422 As much as I’m glad to find a reasonable discussion in KZbin comments, I’m afraid I don’t have the time and patience to cite specific examples. All I will offer is from personal experience, which is also not relatable to the general population on its own merit. But I’ll offer this personal observation: from discussions I’ve had with others (irl or online) and conversations I’ve lurked on other forums, when the reasoning behind terminology like simp, cuck, etc is dug into, it inevitably arrives at terms like “weak, submissive, passive, irrational”: terms that have long been attributed as being “normal” for women to possess but abnormal for men. To put it another way, the implication is nearly always that the disparaged man has,“unmanly” or “feminine” qualities instead of the strong, “alpha-like” qualities that men should always strive for. Therefore my general thinking is that all language stating or even implying that a man lacks appropriate manly qualities means he instead has feminine qualities. I could absolutely be wrong, but the handful of...case studies, I guess is an appropriate term, have definitely led that conclusion.

[@marshallgaming4422]

@@TrueYellowDart That’s fair, I can understand your logic

[@Rivaldi530]

God, finding all those quotes from those incel and incel adjacent groups must have been excruciating.

[@petertaylor3906]

Had to stop at "Sir, who hurt you?". That was funny. So true for the poor guys that overdosed on the "Red Pill"

[@CorwinAlexander]

always love your essays

[@Onnarashi]

What's wrong with men going their own way? There are plenty of legitimate reasons for men to not want to adhere to societal expectations. You can't judge every MGTOW man by their worst ones.

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

Honestly, MGTOW is a great movement for young men. Red Pill Rage nonsense (why go MGTOW if you're only going to obsess about women) aside, teaching men to be self reliant, productive, and healthy without the need of a woman couldn't be more valuable for a man coming out of a broken home and in need of strong male authority figures.

[@Onnarashi]

@@justiceforjoggers2897 I agree. I don't understand the hate for MGTOW. Well, I get why some MGTOW are held up as bad examples, but the fundamental idea of going your own way seems sound to me.

[@Starbuck8008]

The most underappreciated channel on KZbin.

[@j.emitchell4380]

I agree with ninety percent of these videos' research and discussion. You break down a lot of things in very good quality. However, I would suggest it may be a good idea to look into the MGTOW with a little less bias. While I don't personally consider myself an MGTOW person, I do have friends who do and have talked to people in those groups. The way you describe them is similar to the way others describe "Radical Feminists" and as we all know those sorts of personalities are often the minority of the groups, not the majority. Most of the people I know or have talked to in the MGTOW groups want basic things. Equal treatment in family law (such as parental issues, marriage, divorce), to have male abuse be recognized and treated with the same consideration as female abuse, recognition that false rape accusations exist, and the ability to protect themselves from it or dispute it, etc. they don't consider these things as more important than women's issues and do not believe they make women's issues less valid. From what I understand of MGTOW at least is just an intent to distance from the culture that currently is reinforcing that. similar to leaving an area when you feel things get heated or leaving a job because you are not being respected, which I would think most of us on the planet can sympathize with on some level at least.

[@Hallfreakyzoid]

This video was promoted on my subscription feed at least. I love these video essays, keep up the good work.

[@jandrashriker5861]

I really want someone to prove me wrong about how courts do not rule proceedings in favour of women most of the times. I really really do. Almost every divorced father I met in person or online hasn't seen their child in over 4-6 months.

[@ibot2157]

One of the thing with simps id it requires a woman or person who is aware of a guy's feeling for them and uses that to get him to do things for her , but that require you to realize it takes two to create this toxic relationship.

[@Onodera1980]

The terms "alpha male" and "beta male" were termed from a scientific study that has since been retracted. It was originally used to describe wolf behavior in captivity (not human). The fact that it was about wolves, not humans, and retracted as unnatural, the terms are fallacious and should be retired. The people (usually men) using such terms need to be educated.

[@kurdemati7655]

Twitch community hates simp-farm streamers for a solid reason - they change general vibe of website from being centered on gaming, art etc. to encouraging monetising on sexappeal. Maybe this is not bad on its own but I believe there is something lost in that process

[@TheCrayzeeMan]

It is bad on its own. It's the same thing that happened to Onlyfans, a place where fans could support their creators, has been turned into a softcore porn website. Twitch is the same now, to a less pornographic degree, but it's walking that line.

[@rollipolliguaqamolia6667]

Ever since I was 12 all the way up till I was about 23 I had been a simp. I went through all the archetypal memes that are going around online I lived that out completely. Now I'm 29 years old and I've learned a lot. It's good to call out toxic behavior but understand that you yourself can be susceptible to the same thing no one is any better.