The search for La Goleta, Tally Ho's Fastnet competitor. ***Episode 7***

[@timrayment]

I crewed on La Goleta for 10 years with Doddy (Peter Dodd) and it was great to see him again even on film. I would be very interested to know what happened to this lovely schooner and all the crew. I even have a photograph of her under full sail on my office wall. We did the Fastnet on her when she was 48 years old and knocked a day off her original time! Also on board during that time were Tim and Linda Reeve whom I am in occasional touch with. As Doddy said in the video, it would be great for the crew to meet up again. The last time we met up was some years ago at Tim and Linda's house in Wiltshire (I think).

[@paulodonohue5832]

Man it is definitely a small world, think of all the things that came into play to bring you to this point. You have some free time and see a video about a brit building a British boat half a world away. You go help this guy, hone some woodworking skills, and fall in love with wooden boats. Return home, find a boat TWO hours from home and you get hired by a guy who used to sail on the only other boat to finish the race the previous boat won almost 100 years ago. Haha that's kismet. I liked watching you on Sampson Boat Co. and was glad to see you caught the bug. Great show keep it up! At least I think that's how it happened.

[@knotfinnishedyet9170]

Pretty much Spot on there Paul!

[@markhazel9632]

Glad to see you got the ear protectors I sent. As someone hard of hearing with tinnitus, I felt compelled to help you keep your ears healthy. Please wear them during any work that could remotely get loud or persistent! Cheers from Florida!

[@andrewfleming6487]

Mark Hazel I cannot agree with you more!!! I too have Tinnitus /industrial deafness as it now also commonly referred to.. it’s something i see so often with people old enough to know, and do much better. How can we get it through to anyone using ANY loud machinery to do - buy AND wear earplugs or earmuffs.. even mowing the lawn!! Once your hearing is impaired, it dramatically changes how you live and your quality of life. SPREAD THE WORD!!

[@bid6413]

One of those lessons I learned too late and of course it irreversible. As an old dude social interactions are limited by hearing loss. Loud sudden noises, like hammering on steel are particularly damaging. Even exposure to sound 120 decibels or less for prolonged periods are damaging. Do yourself a big favor and always protect yourself. Cheers, Will

[@amclauchlin8255]

My uncle bought La Goleta sometime after WW2 and sailed her round the Western Isles. I don’t know how long he owned her but I think he sold her in the 1960s.

[@paulherriot8936]

PLAY TILL THE END...Finn....keep the out takes....brilliant my friend. Ticks many many boxes....

[@philwomackmhbc]

Let there be light!!!! It’s nice to see the shots in full light. Very good.

[@paulherriot8936]

"Fastenetting" Finn. Thanks for sharing with us. Great that this gentleman was willing to share too

[@zedhead2864]

Looks like you have access to a wealth of great knowledge, experience. Loved hearing Pete's story. All the luck in the world finding the La Goleta. Just an idea to make your channel stand out. If you come across any more 'Ole Sailors with great stories, get them recorded. These guys are the last of a great era of sailing.

[@ukulelefatman]

Not one minute ago I was thinking I'd love to know what Finn is up to. And there you are.

[@dragonfly8080808]

Great story about La Goleta, hope to find out what happened to it. I'm enjoying your channel thanks for sharing.

[@adrianrevill7686]

Hi Finn, love the lockdown hair. I am sure you have removed them now, but for rusted bolts/screws in wood, heat is your friend. Several people said about welding a bar on. But I did not see anyone say to use the welder to heat the studding. Just keep pilling on the weld and the heat will change the rust from red to black which makes it shrink. Part of the reason rust makes bolts stick is that rust takes up more space than iron, so it jams it all tight. Also, the heat chars the wood too. For stuck screws, I use a pencil blow torch, and just heat the head.

[@hammerman47]

Hi Finn, I am a 71 yr old ex sailor ( forearms finally gave in to too much sail hauling over 40 year period) and am enjoying following along on your journey. Met you on Loe's channel rebuilding Tally Ho

[@darinclark1853]

This is delightful... I've met Leo and have followed his progress on the Tally Ho with interest. Love to hear some backstory....

[@carleensaull-hunt81]

Great progress Finn. Barn is looking very organised!...May the search for La Goleta be fruitful! What a story that would be! 👍

[@shaenj]

Hello Finn. I'll just tell you why I subscribed to your channel. I saw you clam up in your early vids and was impressed with your determination to beat it. I thought this bloke is SERIOUS. I rarely sub on you tube, I save that for the real men/women. So, I immediately subscribed. I respect a man who can show his emotions and carry on with what needs doing. I'm an Aussie Pensioner so money is tight and I cannot help you that way but like you I'll think of something. Spreading your channel on other people might help a little. I'll be watching mate and thinking of you. BTW....I've been a Tally Ho fan from seeing the fear in Leo's face when he looked at the boat first time.

[@rowanroesch702]

Well done Finn!!!! Great to see your progress! Trying to work in that tiny space looked so claustrophobic!!!

[@stephenthomason5983]

Always inspiring to see a man with a mission and purpose... I also have been watching Leo since the start, so your on a lot of folks radar. And, they are all pulling for you... Be safe young man... Steve T. ✌

[@jimfuller5309]

Hello Finn! Just was watching you helping out Leo on Tally Ho. Now here you are working on your own boat! Best of luck to you! I was thinking on those stuck knees on the stern seeing as your gonna remake them just split them in half to get them off. Then glue and clamp them back together then you would have a pattern to make the new ones. Cheers, carry on!

[@georgeemeny6123]

Great oral history, stay the coarse my friend! Wonderful to see both you& Leo on the same weekend. oldguyin sequim

[@danielkeirsteadsr1241]

When both boats are ready let the fun begin.

[@lancedaniels]

Thanks for posting and sharing. My admiration for all the work and effort you’re putting in and not just with the rebuild! Glad to hear and see how things are going as well as the story about la Goleta!

[@jameslarson6555]

Great content as always, looking forward to more progress on your project! The barn in itself is an amazing accomplishment

[@kingsleywray6632]

Loved you on that other channel. So glad you are continuing to make content. Thanks for sharing

[@howiedo1124]

Finn!! I’m just so impressed by all you’re doing!! Keep up the great work, I will love it when your channel grows big enough to be your full time job and you won’t need to work on any other boats but your own!! Congratulations, young man!! You’re definitely on your way!!!

[@michaeljoblin637]

You 'da' man Finn, great job, love the rawness!

[@rogerbayzand4455]

I spent all my working life boatbuilding and fishing out of Lymington and remember passing La Goleta when she was at the Berthon.Let's hope we can find out what happened to her. Thanks for another great film Fin, my 10p's worth I would chop of the end of that knee to get the stud out.

[@cynthiaverjovskymarcotte1379]

Finn, I followed from Sampson Boat Co, and am really enjoying your videos and your journey. I just became a patreon supporter. Stay safe!

[@desireeedgington1007]

Find a hole saw about the same size as the square mortise for the upper nuts. Using the hole saw without the pilot center drill installed, drill down to the deck line around the outside of the threaded rod. The knees will come off easily. Then the threaded rods will be exposed for removal. The now oversized holes in the knees can be filled with appropriately sized dowel and glue.

[@GregHartSk8er]

When fastenings are that seized sometimes there is no other option other than to cut the wood away from the fastenings. Desiree's solution above may work, or just hack them off - you wont use them again anyway. Expedience over elegance!!

[@StemtoSternSailing]

That hurt my pride... I just wanted to leave a untraditional idea to help getting the bolts out. Luckily I read your comment first, and realized your idea was much better. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Best regards from Jarle (who by now feels rather stupid)

[@christiangeiselmann]

Nuts and Boats Sailing So what was your idea?

[@StemtoSternSailing]

@@christiangeiselmann induction heater wold make the bolt red hot in minutes, this burns a thin layer of wood around the bolt and creates some " wiggle room " for the coroded steel and crud to move about. Ofcourse you need to have a person topside with some water to put out fires and you would need to have spreadable water ready under the deck as well. I haven't tried this on bolts in wooden constructions but i think it would work. I understand that this is a high risk solution but I have worked with induction heaters a lot and I'm pretty sure it would work. I also think the damage to the wood would be minimal if the fire is kept under control.... (I'm "nuts" maybe it's best not to listen to me) So i saw the video and the first thing I thought of was the induction heater solution, i went to the comment section ready to start writing, then i saw this comment,,,, and i was really ashamed of my self. The other solution was easy, cheap tools, safe and no big fire risk. That should have been the first thing I thought of. Best regards from Jarle

[@clearprop]

Great stuff! Keep 'em coming, sir. Loving the project. 👍

[@Chr.U.Cas1622]

Dear Finn. 👍👌👏 Nice video and work progress again. Unfortunately there is nearly always higher effort as calculated in restorations. Always some unpleasant surprises. 2) How great it would be to find La Goleta. Imagine how your nice boss would feel if he could sail (on) her again after 50 years! Maybe even side by side with Tally Ho!? Remember: Tally Ho will be ready in 2 years! 😁😁 Therefore I suggest to give these informations to Leo and the Arabella guys. Don't get me wrong but they have a lot more viewers (at least for now. Maybe you will catch up). If both channels mention the search in their videos, the chances finding La Goleta are way bigger I guess. Thanks a lot for making teaching recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health.

[@richardkeen1996]

Just discovered your site. Thoroughly enjoyed it and looking forward to following along in the future.

[@2dogsnight]

Never see ferrocement hull before. Really like what you're doing there!

[@waynedoeblin6801]

Another wooden boat project to follow,better than Christmas 👍🙂

[@dm55]

Love the history. It adds so much to your build. Thanx

[@defel1]

You might contact Rick Moore, Captain of the Sophisticated Lady (and KZbin channel) about the La Goleta. He has cruised the Caribbean for years and might know something.

[@allenlong1445]

Dude you keep making them videos I'll keep watching them. I can't imagine how hard it is to make them but your doing a good job so far you got me hooked keep it up

[@mrsethatwood]

sanding around a boathouse? odd. love all of this, keep it up.

[@leilee203]

I love those outtakes and bloopers at the end of your videos :) I've really enjoyed your videos so far, and it's great how much your editing has evolved so far.

[@Larry-325]

Finn great video. The connection to Tally Ho was real interesting. I bet Leo found that interesting. What are the chances you would cross paths with Tally Ho again so soon. Awesome content Finn. Keep it up! 👍👍

[@macelius]

What an interesting story! Would be so lovely to see them sailing together again.

[@robinhodgkinson]

A few ideas come to mind. You did say you were replacing them? 16 mm bolt - maybe weld a nut on topside or drill a hole through if there’s enough thread poking out, then use an old screwdriver/rod as a “handle” to turn the bolt. And perhaps a well of WD- 40 around the bolt and let it soak for a day or two... Or drill a series of holes around the bolt and dig out enough of the timber to loosen its grip but not break the piece in two ( pencil a cross on first to keep hole location accurate)... That saw combo looks like a good unit. Enjoyed the video - keep em coming. : )

[@michaelmcclafferty3346]

Good luck Finn. You are a clever man, you will work out a way to get the bolts out.

[@johnoflegend1529]

Thanks for that Finn! And in the words of Guy Clark “sometime I use my head, sometime a bigger hammer”.

[@Pete-eb4ec]

Superb progress on your shed! Good luck on the restoration! I will be following you.

[@timreynolds1195]

Excellent! Nice shop, working and rebuilding the boat. One man show, carry on.

[@patchmack4469]

excellent - i'm really looking forward to this project Finn - i been binge watching Leo's Tally Hoo project last two days (all 70 odd vids) and now looking forward to yours, with your talent and skills (noted with your work on Tally Hoo) i'm sure your going to do this boat much justice (is the hull fibreglass, i not seen written anywhere, just a very smooth finish) doesn't look that pretty inside, i'd love to come n help out, i heard you say Hasting eeek my neck of the woods although i'm down west sussex now, seem to have loads of time on the hands, might like to come n play while i have time on my hands - keep at it fella

[@nolinovio6748]

awesome video, very inspirational. These videos will be and are classic already in its own right. Keep up the great videos coming.

[@stevenjay72]

LA GOLETA (MMSI: 345883242) is a Passenger and is sailing under the flag of Mexico. Her length overall (LOA) is 8 meters and her width is 2 meters.currently located in California at position 31° 51' 35.748" N, 116° 37' 38.28" W Port: ENSENADA as reported by MarineTraffic Terrestrial Automatic Identification System on 2014-08-10 04:24 UTC (5 years, 9 months ago)....May not be the same vessel but,who knows. Also,this was 5yrs ago.

[@typicallucas4164]

8 meters LOA seems to be less than half of length of the ship in the photo

[@davewilliams6172]

8m is a little bit short for a Fastnet racer (by about 31m lol)....that can't be her!

[@MULLAC22]

According to "forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?252366-Yachts-of-the-FASTNET-1925-1939-a-database", La Goletta was 54 feet ( 16.5 m ) long by 12 foot 9 inch ( 3.9 m ) beam. She is a 2 masted schooner and was originally gaff rigged although I believe she was bermuda rigged in the 1970's.

[@James-67]

You could try welding something on top of the rod and pull/twist from above :) Love the vid's, you're doing a great job!

[@hanvyj2]

Yeah welding onto the top is probably the easiest way to do it!

[@MikeAG333]

Why? Were you not listening when he said he was replacing the knees with new ones? Cut the old ones off.......5 minutes work. Cut the seized threaded rods off......2 minutes work. Make new knees......that will make slightly more interesting footage.

[@Stoic-of-Rome]

Interesting to hear what happend to La Goleta. There looks to be some weird and wonderful boats right in your yard!! maybe do a walk around and show them. like the one @6:13

[@RobDDC]

Slide hammer mate. You can make your own. The impact can crack the rust laminations.

[@rogergoulder3821]

A good watch, Finn. Thank you. You are obviously a knowledgeable bloke , so you probably already considered and discarded this idea, but FWIW ....... We used to weld some round bar onto the fastening and extract it with a slide hammer. ( We had different sizes of slide hammer - the surveyor always wanted the most awkward fastenings pulled !)

[@ekavoian]

I enjoyed the video Finn. Liked the music too. Blues and boats go together when you are on the hard. Look forward to your progress

[@GoochPatrol1]

Yes Finn we want more!! Thanks for another great vid :) Cheers from South Africa

[@matthewharding6245]

Loving the videos, keep up the good work. Time is precious, if you aren't keeping them just chop them next to the bolt and be done with it, you can still use the pieces for templating.

[@pikethree]

Finn, leave the sanding sounds in, it's a boatyard we have to expect some noise. Just keep cracking on mate.

[@chriscoast2coast1207]

Great project look forward to your videos through out the retrofit of your vessel.

[@carl-ericlandell5097]

Hi Charlie here sailed lG 1979 from Portugal to Island Canarias Did You find Her

[@subpoppy1]

go get em Finn. keep hammering on. thanks for the effort in sharing your journey.

[@hexinli]

Great video - keep 'em coming! Funny - I thought the sound was a sander too - didn't learn until the outtake that it was the turbine... Hope you aren't sleeping anywhere near that noisy beast! Cheers.

[@martinhoflich6150]

I guess some of the people here which gave you ideas how to get rid of the knees/rusted bolts forgot that your boat is made from concret. So be careful not to stress punctual to much .Concret is very strong but not elastic and it can crack. Btw.I like the progress and your choise of music.Cheers from germany.

[@timjohnson8725]

Awesome Job Finn keep up the good work and best wishes from Biloxi Mississippi USA..

[@mkllove]

You may have explored this in your searches already, but is the Insurance Co or the Bank still operating ? If they were bought out or a merger occurred, these companies usually still have records from the 70's... I saw a bunch of records from an insurance company for the Titanic on a TV Show a while back, so maybe La Goleta has a newspaper record if it was sunken, or damaged ?

[@jonmurraymurray5512]

That cement was rather wet. To much water in the mix to make it easier to work or is a gound so full of water it doesn't wick it out? I have only worked with cement in desert regions.

[@MikeLoveBuns]

Amusing sailboat ⛵️ sailing story! Mike from Missouri 😀⛵️😘

[@michaeldarby3503]

Great to see youve caught the boat building bug for youreself Finn :)

[@faelsinnes]

Hi Finn, the boat in this video @ 0614, behind the crane. can you give me any info on it.

[@garyfairbrother5532]

Is it possible to fasten or someway clamp and iron bracket on the knee’s near the bolts and use a jack to lift them from the grip of the bolts? Or perhaps weld a chain to the nuts and try to lift the bolts from the knees with a jack or chain lift??? If they don’t move right away I would then leave a great amount of pressure on the knee or bolt whichever you choose and then rap on the knee sides near the bolts with a mall to see if they will pop loose.

[@eriknordlund]

Great job Finn!

[@andrewbailey7999]

Hi Finn, I'm just wondering if you've thought yet about what kind of rig will go on your boat that you're restoring. The story about La Goleta was great! Small world. Perhaps a future project will be to make a replica haha...

[@knotfinnishedyet9170]

Hi Andrew. Thanks for you message. I have and she will be rigged a gaff cutter. And I would love to build a replica la Goleta. Possibly one day

[@superformOG]

where do you find this good spaces to restore boats, the only places i can find charge a fortune

[@rayantoni4932]

Thanks for doing these videos.can you drill around those bolts with a hole saw to remove the knees in one piece

[@MaShcode]

Any room for a flexible reciprocating saw blade to cut the bolts?

[@richmelillo9637]

Great stuff! have fun, I know that Leo is watching also.Rich

[@sk-op3xi]

so glad i found this channel!

[@UKPete]

Great progress on the workshop and your 40ft Oyster boat, what is she called?. The out takes are great, thanks for all the trouble on making the videos I hope it pays off!.

[@knotfinnishedyet9170]

Peter Ridley thank you! She is currently unnamed! Appreciate the kind words! 🙏

[@marcjordan29]

Love the build..... So obligatory comment and like.... Slapped!

[@Davidcallard]

Unfortunately I can't find La Goleta but I think I might have a simple solution for getting the bolts out: I'm presuming you can do simple welding on site? Just weld some kind of device, maybe an old unused tool or anything that you can get a good grip on to the bolt or what's left of it and go to ìt! If you can get enough purchase on the device you should be able to rip the bolts out.

[@earlhall174]

Suggestion for removing the bolts - use a hole saw to remove the wood surrounding the bolts to reduce the contact with the knee. Interesting story about La Goleta. Keep going!

[@nofider1]

Hello Finn. Great series....... Keep expecting a parrot to steal the show lol. Stay safe and keep the video's coming .... :-)

[@MjrTraumaVictim]

ok so im following this from TALLY HO, and having watched all the vids realising your from hastings area, and your family is from BATTLE, strangely im watching from my home nr POWDERMILL wood, good show so far, keep it up Finn.

[@nikolasmaclean4450]

Nice one mate! Thoroughly enjoyed the latest vid!

[@MiQBohlin]

C’mon folks and give these guy a thumbs up! 👍🏽 After all efforts making this vid and the cost of sharing it, he's are worth a 👍🏽, don’t you think?

[@SuperDougiedoo]

Around 1979 La Goleta was sold and made her way down to I believe Belize. Though there are stories that she ended up on the rocks somewhere in the Caribbean.

[@shaenj]

As for the difficult nuts I'd attempt making a long attachment for the Spanner. You have the right nuts to get the right setting to the spanner or a Ring spanner might be better. An easy fix if you're lucky.

[@TrapShooter68]

I think you'll be fine with the lighting/electrics. I didn't see the brand name "Lucas" anywhere. 😊

[@geoffmesser5091]

TrapShooter68 Lucas .... aka as the “Prince of Darkness” though maintaining an old British sportscar has taught me how to manage the electrical system to keep the lights on 😁

[@TrapShooter68]

@@geoffmesser5091 Get your Whitworth taps and dies ready!

[@kaakeith3772]

@@geoffmesser5091 do tell. i've a pair of healeys ('54 100/4 +' 60 bugeye)that the "prince" does like to visit on occasion

[@SimonElenor]

Please tell me those were not regular nails used in the rails?

[@geneberry7114]

Hi Finn, that's quite the pickle you have with the seized bolts, I wish I had an intelligent suggestion. I really like the gaffs at the end of the videos. If I were making videos they would be nothing but gaffs, hat's off to you. : )

[@philipmasters7491]

Some reports of fires with L-ion batteries, if you are putting fire suppression in the boats engine box, might be good to buy early and temporarily fit in the battery box?

[@gmoose777]

that wasmostly the old chemistry batteries lifep04 chemistry is very stable

[@philipmasters7491]

gmoose777 Thank you for the update

[@DowneastThunderCreations]

Chisel enough wood away around the studs at the top of the knees to allow use of a fender washer. Replace the nuts, and then use a pneumatic impact driver to tighten down on the nuts. Since you removed the nuts below, the studs should work their way upwards and out initially until they loosen up enough to spin - in which case you should then be able to work them up and out with a fair amount of ease.

[@sparrowdudu]

Unfortunately, searching on google isn't helped by the fact that Goleta in Spanish means a type of 'two masted sailing yacht' ! I did find one comment from someone called Carl Eric who sailed on La Goleta in 1979. He left the boat in the Canary Islands, and the said the owner, Mr London (?), intended to cross the Atlantic and head to Belize. No more was heard...

[@K.E.L-117]

Any news on her? Any further information on location or fate?

[@MrJerryheffer]

I noticed the old Looe boat Odella outside your shed, what sort of shape is she in, looks a bit neglected.

[@davidbacon4805]

Finn, nice story tie in with the Tally Ho. That is a great machine you have there, I saw another one on a UK video, but have never seen anything like that here in the States. When ever I see a table saw with no riving knife attached I wince , any chance they make an attach. ?

[@ajkolodziejski118]

Any chance of welding the nuts on the rods?

[@mikevine6628]

Keep the story going, I'm enjoying the journey

[@letome]

How about heating the rod, induction maybe?

[@Commhun]

Do you think weding on some leverate to the end of the bolts would help?

[@forresta65]

if the bolts are off the inside, take a piece of sheetmetal to protect the deck and try gentle knocking a wide wedge in between the deck and the knee. My two cents.

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

Like the wind turbine and electrical set-up. Are you still living in the camper within the shop? You're making great progress setting things up !!

[@knotfinnishedyet9170]

Iron Clad Ranch vans now outside the shop so more space to work 👌🏻