The Search for the Thylacine

Holocene Extinction Episode 3: The Thylacine
Tasmanian tiger or thylacine sightings have been frequently reported, in Tasmania and in Australia alike. The thylacine’s elusive nature combined with Tasmania’s vast wilderness allow for a possibility that the carnivorous marsupial still survives to the present day. Numerous searches and investigations tried to prove this optimism.
However, it seems that our fondness about the idea of the existence of thylacines today isn’t enough to undo the damage we did, through the large-scale bounties we established to rid the island off the thylacines a few hundred years ago.
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[@FactorTrace]

IMPORTANT CORRECTION: The thylacine endling mentioned as “Benjamin” in the video turned out to be a female and she was never known by that name. The name has been a myth that was widely used to refer to the last known thylacine. This myth originated from a story published in the Melbourne press in 1968 (32 years after the last thylacine died). Frank Darby told the story, he claimed to have worked in the Hobart Zoo and took care of the thylacine, and lied about the name Benjamin of the last thylacine. This story took on and although the Zoo has denied Darby’s claim and inconsistencies have been found from his story, the name stuck. Researcher Robert Paddle and museum curator of vertebrate zoology Kathryn Medlock said on 6 December 2022 that they had managed to track down the remains of the final thylacine that died in Hobart Zoo in 1936. It was found that the thylacine was a female. Source www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-06/benjamin-thylacine-tasmanian-tiger-naming-myth-persists/101734442? Please read the sources linked in the description

[@andrewchalmers7422]

I had a very very good look at a panther in Victorian high country 40 years ago. I'm sure l could search for proof of the panthers for 20 years and still not see another one. Peter report their sights when it's news because like me they keep it to themselves until they opportunity to tell someone who is not going to ridicule them. Like so many dicks have done in the comments here

[@s.tavares3257]

Was going to point that out.

[@pedrogabrielduarte4544]

so that means that the story of the thylacine is a lie?! but how?!

[@flatwavelength]

You're videos are SUCH high quality. I cant wait to watch you grow.

[@FactorTrace]

Thank you! I really appreciate it! :D

[@The_PokeSaurus]

I think people's claims of seeing this animal still alive is a result of our guilt over its extinction. I think instead of trying to prove it's still alive or cloning it, a better way of honoring the Thylacine is to save what animals we have today that are endangered and make a more friendly environment for them before just bringing them back.

[@FactorTrace]

Yes, I completely agree with you. People see what they want to see, and because they feel guilty they want the thylacine to still exist. I also think that it's best for us to use the money we're currently spending on thylacine resurrection project to be used in extant animal conservation. But experts are torn between the two, since advancements in genome editing technology can also help save endangered species.

[@paleoph6168]

"You never realise the value of something until it's gone."

[@laseriedeladilophosaure9246]

Je pense aussi que les gens ont confondues le dongo ou les chiens sauvages avec le thylacine

[@christianharding3298]

It has nothing to do with guilt, they see it because it's still alive and out there. It was filmed just last week --- > kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZqrZISJfpeBaKM

[@The_PokeSaurus]

@@christianharding3298 That video isn't even in color so it just looks like a dog. So there is no proof they are still alive out there.

[@sidstevens9035]

Frank Darby, who claimed to have been a keeper at Hobart Zoo, suggested Benjamin as having been the animal's pet name in a newspaper article of May 1968. No documentation exists to suggest that it ever had a pet name, and Alison Reid (de facto curator at the zoo) and Michael Sharland (publicist for the zoo) denied that Frank Darby had ever worked at the zoo or that the name Benjamin was ever used for the animal. Darby also appears to be the source for the claim that the last thylacine was a male. Robert Paddle was unable to uncover any records of any Frank Darby having been employed by Beaumaris/Hobart Zoo during the time that Reid or her father was in charge and noted several inconsistencies in the story Darby told during his interview in 1968.

[@F0xR0t13]

Your videos are so high quality it's a shame you're so underrated :(

[@seregagerassimov4864]

Yeah, it feels like I am watching a channel that has at least 1 million subscribers.

[@FactorTrace]

Thank you! I'm still working to get more recognition :D

[@FactorTrace]

@Serega Gerassimov Thanks, I really appreciate that!

[@meikitotoku]

It's been a while but I'm glad you're back! Your videos are always very educational and helpful! Both your paleontology videos and modern-day animal videos are very enjoyable to watch. And the motion design and editing are phenomenal!

[@FactorTrace]

Hi again! Yeah it did take a while to finish these videos, thanks for sticking around and I'm glad you like them!

[@deshrektives]

So glad you’re back! Love the animals, and these videos are one hell of a class on how to communicate information visually. It’s only a matter of time before your channel blows up, dude!

[@FactorTrace]

Thanks! I really appreciate it

[@jellybean_91]

Absolutely awesome video with brilliant research and production values! Thank you!

[@FactorTrace]

Glad you liked the video!

[@loadingyourdata2131]

How does this video not have a million views by now??

[@CallOfTheVoid-ib3py]

Because most of it is fake.He is deleting and blocking any correction posts

[@NatureEnjoyer523]

6:20 i doubt if it was mounted, since i have seen photos in the same area, were the thylacine had clearly moved

[@andrewchalmers7422]

Local flightless birds were main food prey before made extinct by settlers

[@NatureEnjoyer523]

@@andrewchalmers7422 Ik

[@paulturner8372]

Why didn't they organise a breeding program back then to save them up to now.

[@FactorTrace]

I believe back then, people weren't aware that the thylacines are dying out (even now a lot of people still believe they're around). On top of that, people weren't particularly fond of thylacines, calling them troublesome and a pest. Now millions of dollars are poured into de-extinction projects to recreate them.

[@TammyM36]

This really made me mad and sad

[@WilliamBenecke-f9c]

Can you make a video on recently extinct animals

[@FactorTrace]

I've actually made 5 videos about 5 iconic extinct animals, find it in the Holocene Extinction playlist.

[@felipehagi]

It's not because you can't see that it's extinct... it's no longer a "naive" animal as it was at the time of its genocide... be very calm in saying that some species is extinct... it's impossible and irresponsible

[@andrewchalmers7422]

Your conclusion that the Tasmanian tigers are extinct on the mainland and Tasmanian is to be expected because there has never been clear photo or a body to prove that they exist. Let me mention the black panthers of Australia with many sightings of the years but as with the tigers no clear photo no body to provide proof. But the panthers do exist because l had a very very good look at one 40 years ago in Victorian high country. So l imagine the tigers are out there as well

[@BronyLord-wo1ym]

"May we one day see this beloved creature again"

[@hsdinoman2267]

⁣Trapped am I, in cage of twisty wire, cold concrete. PROWL RAGE HOWL Know you not that I am tooth and claw- see me hunt through bracken and bush, see me swagger across wild lands, see me glory at the edge of cliff.

[@parkerredeker5216]

Great poem! Thank you!

[@hsdinoman2267]

@@parkerredeker5216 its from a book, the dream of thylacine

[@parkerredeker5216]

@@hsdinoman2267 Thanks ^^

[@vladimirberegovoy2886]

How could Australians afford losing such animals? Greed and stupidity rule.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Man, I sure hope that there are rare groups of Tasmanian Tiger's still alive in the remote dense wilderness of Tasmania, or other near by region's. They are such amazing creatures. They were unfairly scapegoated.

[@FactorTrace]

Yeah, that will be great news if we find living populations of them hidden somewhere. It's so sad that we can't see them anymore

[@calm.wonders]

Even if they’re alive , the government probably know but you won’t tell the public , if they publicly say it , everyone will go to that area to find them , don’t forget there are some people who over millions of dollar to capture a live one

[@Atomic_Pinneaple]

​@@calm.wonderswould be reasonable

[@Levelz31]

the quality of content you put out is mind-blowing, I hope your channel has incredible growth this year. keep the content coming.

[@FactorTrace]

I appreciate that! I hope so too, thanks! Still working on more videos

[@ham_sandvich]

as a tasmanian i am very happy that you covered one of my favourite creatures i’ve traveled the entirety of tasmania as i love camping and the only things close to them that i see/hear are usually just tassie devils fighting or possums fighting and i assume a lot of tourist think that they’ve struck gold when they hear it

[@ASM42186]

The last surviving Thylacine died of NEGLECT?!?! Before seeing this video, I was melancholy for the extinction of the thylacine. Now I'm outraged.

[@LadyViscera]

I never realised that Thylacines only hunted small prey. That makes their extinction all the more pointless and tragic.

[@markgilfernando7385]

it's us humans that should be tagged as troublesome creatures

[@FactorTrace]

Yeah, I can't help but agree with this

[@iamarizonaball2642]

The dodos are cuter, and yet we still are unknowingly killing species. (Say, how’s that Arizona extinct species video going?)

[@FactorTrace]

Yeah you're right! We should protect all species regardless of their physical appearance tho 😆 I haven't found a topic about any Californian species to make a full video about, currently I'm still focusing on finishing this Holocene Extinction series, I still have 4 episodes to go. :D

[@iamarizonaball2642]

@@FactorTrace I’ll look through Arizona’s extinct animals for ones during the Holocene extinction.

[@tatianaromonov1416]

How can they have an exact day of extinction of a species they’d never researched or counted or even understood? Its a marsupial and was hunted like a big cat predator but it turns out the only predator in this story is man himself

[@FactorTrace]

Image and video credits: 1. Thylacine footage compilation 1911 footage by "Mr. Williamson", 1933 footage by David Fleay. Authors of the 1928 footage are unknown., Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Thylacine_footage_compilation.ogv 2. 4 Griffith on expedition Jeremy Griffith’s remarkable search for the Tasmanian Tiger (thylacine) | www.humancondition.com/tasmanian-tiger-search/ 3. Footage of the last thylacine Probably Sidney Cook (1873-1937), Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Last_known_footage_of_a_Thylacine.webm 4. Thylacine and Tasmanian devil after a drawing by George Harris, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Didelphis_cynocephala_and_Didelphis_ursina,_1808.jpg 5. Thylacine with chicken Henry Burrell (died 1945), Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Thylacine-chicken.png 6. Wilf Batty with the last wild thylacine Photo of Wilfred Batty, author unknown, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wilf_Batty_last_wild_Thylacine.jpg 7. Bagged thylacine Victor Prout?, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bagged_thylacine.jpg I can't put the credits in the description box because I have exceeded the maximum number of character limit with my sources. I need to find a more effective way of putting my citations that's both easily accessible and is more spacious than the regular KZbin description box. If anyone knows how, please let me know, thanks!

[@andersliwenborg3355]

"did not know" before and after.....bounty says it all

[@pattskatoey3139]

It’s a real shame they let the Thylacine go extinct.

[@FactorTrace]

Yes, it is. We lost another iconic and unique animal because of human activities

[@KonnorHermann]

Perhaps it's better that if the Thylacine still does exist, that it remains hidden. Because we know how cruel the poaching industry is. If you see an extremely rare, or a thought to be extinct species. For the sake of the animal no you didn't.

[@andrewchalmers7422]

Very informative video. BUT there has never been a panther body or perfect photo taken in Australia 🇦🇺 However the panther does exist in Australia because l had a really really good look at one. Lots of people also see panthers and say nothing because of the ridicule. I'm sure that Tasmanian tigers are in Tasmania and the mainland due to heaps of legitimate sightings

[@communication001]

I'm starting the think the existence of things like dogs and humans is what drives them to live in very remote mountainous places so maybe that's why they were never caught as live specimens on the mainland - because they were already living in fear of the Dingo and driven to very isolated mountainous spots that aren't favoured by the Dingos.

[@paulturner8372]

They didn't bother with a proper confersation program for the species back them.

[@flatwavelength]

Sorry to ask this in a comment, but is there a way to contact you? I know you either are or were in my discord, but I forgot your user. No worries if you don't want to be contacted, but if you DO please let me know! I'd be asking about a collab, and if you'd be interested in doing that!

[@FactorTrace]

Hey Izzie! It's fine no worries. I can DM you on Discord if that would be the most convenient for you. I also have Twitter and Email linked on my KZbin about page. I have sent you an email. Thanks for reaching out! :D

[@NatureEnjoyer523]

0:28 I think that drawing is based on the only image i could found with the pouch visible

[@KennyKAdventures]

Great video 👍🏾 Such a beautiful animal I hope they still exist, if I ever saw one I wouldn’t say a thing! I have heard there has been quite a few sightings in PNG most of the land is untouched.

[@NatureEnjoyer523]

Hey, its more likely than a still alive megalodon

[@FactorTrace]

Yes, the megalodon is long dead. It's habitat and prey items are also gone

[@RyanMc66]

How much more life will perish due to humans before it ends?

[@laseriedeladilophosaure9246]

Le thylacine ressemble beaucoup à un loup mais il chasse des prois beaucoup plus petites donc il n’à pas le même satue au niveau de l’écologie car le loup est un grand prédateurs alors que le thylacine est un prédateurs de taille moyenne.

[@pedrogabrielduarte4544]

i heard somewhere that benjamin was not his real name

[@herby375]

That was really good!

[@NatureEnjoyer523]

Humans: *destroy the thylacine's habitait* Thylacines: *kill sheep, wich it possibly dindnt even do* Humans: These m*therf*ckers need to pay

[@Pingebont-blumptrot]

Such a sad story

[@paleoph6168]

4:20 ecological

[@FactorTrace]

Oh, that's a typo, I missed that one before rendering the video 😆 Near the end there's another one 9:15 , it's supposed to be "cynocephale"

[@parkerredeker5216]

Great overview! Another video by one of the most underrated KZbinr's ever.

[@FactorTrace]

Wow, thanks! I appreciate that

[@Swizkai]

fun fact the people looking for them lots of the time found paw tracks

[@calebbetteridge5749]

so was it sighted or not? dont waste my time XD

[@FactorTrace]

No, they're extinct. But watch the whole video, you won't get your time wasted 😁

[@calebbetteridge5749]

@@FactorTrace I’m sure the videos great I jus don’t like the clickbait thumbnail bruh, you don’t be sighten him

[@pollyannaprinciple5860]

I hope they fired the negligent zoo keeper.

[@lynxmflynxmf5347]

Clickbait bollox, blocked 🚫

[@somerandomdude6057]

Boohoo... Cry about it 🤡

[@laurenfrail6045]

Dog as conclusion Lad

[@Picasso_305]

So sad

[@rustykilt]

Nothing to see here..usual click bait. Reported sightings over decades proved groundless.

[@FactorTrace]

If you're saying that thylacine no longer exists, then that's the point of the video. Have you even seen the whole video?

[@rustykilt]

@@FactorTrace yes

[@rustykilt]

@@FactorTrace like the video but it has all been said before so nothing new added.

[@FactorTrace]

Lots of people would argue otherwise, besides the video covers more than just the sightings

[@pauloconnor7951]

Nope. foot prints galore; and scat. witnessed by Police; and Ranger.

[@wattsiswhat]

NO! It lives

[@wolfpredator1000]

Jeremy Femto

[@jimkennedy7050]

is a tiger on the coat of arms of NZ?

[@FactorTrace]

No, I don't think so. But it is featured on the coat of arms of Tasmania

[@davejensen7922]

There are still wild parts of Tassie that white man has never set foot on It’s hard to say whether it’s extinct or not and feel certain

[@mickwarnie8707]

Well he was not the last one, just the last one on film. We will never know when the last one died. Its not like the put in a huge effort to replace him.

[@FactorTrace]

It's true. That's the last "known" thylacine

[@mickwarnie8707]

@@FactorTrace known one on film yes. But to think it was the last one ever is ridiculous, nobody was running around trying to film them after this died because they just did not realise how scarce they were, the care factor was not like it is now. Plus farmers who were trying to protect their stock admit they were still shooting them into the 50s and 60s but at the time kept their mouth shut because they were protected at that stage.

[@FactorTrace]

@@mickwarnie8707 Yes, it is the last one on film, and after that, there has been no known thylacine. So, calling it "the last known thylacine" is wrong? If we're going to take sighting reports as evidence for an animal's existence, then we should start adding the bigfoot, yeti, and the loch ness monster to our encyclopedias. Those farmers might be telling the truth, but who knows? No one can verify it. So, by definition, the one died in the zoo is the last known thylacine.

[@dbx1233]

I was in a remote part of Tasmania, when I spotted a huge Big Foot, about 8 feet tall, and he had a pair of Thylacine, one male and one female, on a leash. He was trotting with them, through the woods. I quickly grabbed mt phone so I could get some video footage, when suddenly my battery died. Oh well, the footage probably would have been too grainy to see anything anyway.

[@FactorTrace]

You got me at the first half not gonna lie 😂 I'm going to guess the camera you're carrying must be one of those old surveillance cameras with 144p max resolution

[@fastandloose3856]

Ha Ha Ha! Right O.

[@AzwaadGD]

Bro understands​@@FactorTrace

[@dodoxasaurus6904]

This is a Great Video

[@FactorTrace]

Thank you!

[@AdrianWright6363]

Another highly professional video! I've already started putting the word out about your channel - I have no idea how successful I'll be, but even one extra subscriber will be worth it!

[@FactorTrace]

Thank you very much, I highly appreciate your help! Definitely, 1 new sub is worth it. Thanks again!

[@squidlyminimalisim]

Great channel and even better video you had epic content from the start but you’ve stepped it up again

[@FactorTrace]

Thanks a lot! Still trying to improve :D

[@sidstevens9035]

An excellent post. Well done to you !

[@FactorTrace]

Thank you!

[@NormanF62]

If we’re looking to repair the ecosystem, we could do no better than to transplant the Malagasy fossa as a stand in fot the extinct thylacine on Tasmania and in eastern Australia and pledge never to hunt another animal to extinction. We can’t amend the sins of the past but we can take care of the environment we do have to preserve it for future generations.

[@gonota72]

I like how the zoo just wanted to get another one after letting the one they had die!! I believe there are still tigers out there.

[@SuperGravey]

Two thylacines have clearly been spotted on thermal cameras this year in Tasmania and Victoria. Another had 12 witnesses on different occasions in S.A last year in the same area. Thylacines are just like kangaroos in the clips but clearly walk on all 4 legs and in one clip run extremely fast bounding and trying to hide. Don't forget, that the thylacine is a marsupial and should be compared with a kangaroo rather than dog or fox which is what people continually do. Maybe because they watch too much television rather than understand what people have seen. Thousands of sightings have been made about seeing the illusive marsupial all over Australia including the majority on the mainland. Our scientists are weak in this field and as one farmer commented, I have thylacines on my property and they live in a den. I don't go down there I just leave them alone. No scientist has ever asked us about them but continue to publish rubbish without asking the people who know. Another farmer I know said that they also knew of them in their area but they keep quiet because they don't want people wandering around their houses. I asked another farmer who I see every so often about them in the area and he just gave a cheeky smile and said they're still there, don't worry. How can I, a simple person speak to a few people and get totally different answers than our well paid scientists? Scientists want evidence and the farmers have it but no, they sit in the office. If you want a conspiracy theory, a belief is that where they are generally found is in farming areas. Forestry and wheat farming areas have heaps of sightings so if they do find one alive, what will happen to that town and industry? It'd probably go under. Look, no thylacine keep moving, it must have been a mangy fox or a dog etc.

[@davida.4933]

I've spent a lot of time in academia and IMO, many scientists give a superficial dubious opinion on the continual survival of the thylacine simply because it's not their field of expertise and they give a knee jerk reaction since for so many decades there has been no definitive proof. Probably many if not most would find some of the sighting interviews very interesting if they took the time to research those sightings esp. by personal interviews.

[@SuperGravey]

@@davida.4933 I have a very simple rule of thumb. If I don't know what I'm on about I quickly state this in order to not mislead anyone. In my subjects I'm not at the top yet but one day my goal is to be there. Did you know that the W.A parliament agreed that they are still apart of the West Australian fauna? They admitted this but went under the radar. There's definitely a breeding population because the farmers and indigenous people say they are breeding because they have seen them. The photo of Neils is only new to people who haven't seen them but the locals said yeah that looks like them, the aboriginal people said similar but scientists said no it's a pademelon. Imagine generational farmers and the world's oldest culture being bullied by a few know it alls straight from university trying to debunk them. As an aboriginal man once said on 4 corners if you want Australia to move forward you need to sack the educated leaders because they clearly know nothing about Australia. This was about the climate and major fires in 2019 but is still appropriate in this subject. Remember Azria Chamberlain and the Dingo? Why did the trackers walk one way and the cops the other? The police were looking for a person or dingo but what were the trackers looking for? Didn't they say the devil dog took her aka thylacine? The aboriginal people said that the thylacine would do this and knew from experience. You can't blame an extinct species of animal for that can you? It'd look pretty stupid. The Dingo took the body and sadly we know the rest.

[@frankgallacher4799]

am sorry I have to disagree with you they are extinct, especially the part when it comes to the farmers after all they where the ones that put pressure on the tasmanian Government to wipe them from the face of the earth so as way back as 1830 they paid 7 shillings for a pup and a £1 for an adult, because of their paranoia that they where attacking sheep which of course they went. now your trying to say those same called farmers see them and allow them into their property....some how I don't think so ..look at the old photos of them hung up like meat in a buture shop. the last tyhacine Benjamin died of neglect frozen to death. I mean seriously do you really expect me to believe those farmers have been keeping it a secret, yeah right.

[@FactorTrace]

Thank you for the addition, but I personally don't find those claims to be convincing enough. I don't think there's any clear, high definition footage of a thylacine to back those sightings claims, nor physical evidence like droppings or footprints. I would give the benefit of the doubt for claims originating from Tasmania, not mainland Australia. Since again, when the thylacine was still abundant in Tasmania, there's none found in the mainland, why would suddenly when they're gone in Tasmania, they instead begin appearing in mainland Australia? In this day and age, everyone has high quality cameras in their pockets all the time, all they have to do is take their smartphones out and get some footage to prove the thylacine's existence. And lastly, if we were to take sighting claims as "definitive proof" of an animal's existence, then we should start adding Bigfoots, yetis, and Loch Ness monsters to our encyclopedia. There's a difference between real science and mythos, one needs to be able to be physically observed, measured and analysed, the other one only needs faith to exist.

[@SuperGravey]

@@FactorTrace mate I would personally reccomended you do a bit more research about this subject as in field research asking the right people instead of internet research. This is good for a KZbin story but geeze have you missed a ton of evidence due to not looking in the right places. Have you personally been to the museums and looked in their archives? In W.A did you not look up the government stance on the thylacines still being present in numbers in the 70s? When you spoke with the aboriginal elders in remote Australia and also around the states what did they tell you about the thylacine and its ability to disappear? When you met trackers in the bush, there's plenty of them what were the footprints like and what was different about them? There's thousands of recent prints so please don't lie to us about not having any samples. There's some up the road from me that scientists can't explain from a 4 legged walking marsupial. Thylacines have also been spotted in New Guinea over the past few centuries but what would the locals know and understand. Australia is 7.668 million squared kilometers with much of it isolated. Your comment is absolutely full of holes and to have a KZbinr privilege of trying out educate some of Australias best bushman including aboriginals is absolutely pathetic. Go back, think about your facts, get up and go out and speak to people. How is it I'm more in tune with people than someone doing a clip? Ps. A guy I know who has an agreement with other farmers about the thylacine being present in their surroundings hasn't heard of you. Obviously you must have missed a major portion of Australia. Go back and educate yourself in the field and stop relying on someone else's work.

[@marth6270]

Im back, unlike the thylacine

[@FactorTrace]

Hey there, oh that's a bit dark

[@thylacineawarenessgroupofa5886]

Rubbish

[@marth6270]

@@FactorTrace I hope you blow up one day, if you keep making vids with such good editing, I hope it happens. At least you will have a good back catalogue.

[@felixbuenjr.1403]

hahaha.. sightings? dreaming men.. your ancestor already wipe it out.. every video shown here always start with benjamin...

[@FactorTrace]

That's the point of the video, have you seen it until the end? And that's just how you do KZbin I guess? you show the most interesting part first

[@richlisola1]

If you can’t write in correct English, just don’t write

[@andrewchalmers7422]

Read my post

[@tristinsway4217]

Thylacines are related to the hyena both are marsupials both have wide jaws both have a pouch near there anus One has stripes one has spots both have 4 pups every 14 months when breeding etc🦘

[@FactorTrace]

Despite their similarities, hyenas and thylacines are actually not closely related. Hyena is a placental mammal, not a marsupial :D Surprisingly, hyenas are in the order Carnivora, Suborder Feliforma, closer to cats! Whereas the thylacines are in the order Dasyuromorpha, with Tasmanian devils and dunnarts. 😁

[@fastandloose3856]

Ok then. Clearly you never made it past pre school.