The Secret Book of John (aka "Apocryphon of John"). Gnostic text audio book.

The "Secret Book of John" (aka "The Apocryphon of John") is generally regarded as the most "heretical" of Gnostic texts, establishing the tenets of the Gnostic tradition. Within are ideas including salvation through Gnosis, reincarnation, the "immovable race", and Archons (the equivalent of demons in the Christian tradition).
The famous Swiss psychologist Carl Jung considered himself Gnostic, and regarded the early Christian Gnostics as being very advanced in their understanding of human psychology. The Matrix Trilogy is considered to be representative of many Gnostic concepts, along with other movies like "Ink", and "The Nines".
Hopefully that explains why I've decided to include it on this channel. Most of all I see it as being particularly useful in the area of human psychology.
On a side note I'm hoping to get back to this channel and begin providing it with the TLC it's been so desperately lacking. I hope you're all doing well.

[@tracimyers9115]

I have no words to explain what I am experiencing while listening to this. I have this book on my lap while reading along with you. I listen to 3 -4 mins. And cry profoundly 10 mins layers of belief systems I believe are falling off. I am greatful for your time reading recording this for others such as myself. Ty it may take me a week or month to complete because it's going deep♡

[@pendejo6466]

Damn, was it that serious? Which parts moved you most?

[@user-vg1cn4if4x]

These hidden truths can be troubling to our mortal minds...just remember, all of this had to happen in order for us to have free will. Without what we perceive as darkness, there could be no reward or punishment. It is all necessary and perfect. There can be no division, as we are all אחד. Much Love and Blessings!

[@MultiReptilian]

I have experienced similar feelings while reading this kind of spiritual material, it can move you in a powerful way

[@mattsimon5336]

i read this over 100 times just this book listen to it over 40 times and cry each time

[@JRJones333]

This has been proven heretical. Jesus is not the God of confusion, Satan is. Jesus would not teach his disciples one thing while he was living in human form and then after his death have individual visions with a select few and tell them something totally different. There's several secret books written after Jesus's death. The Secret Book of James, The Gospel of Mary (Magdalene), The Gospel of Thomas, Secret Book of John, Apocalypse of Peter, and a few more. The original 4 Gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John) were written when there were witnesses still alive to validate the contents. With all the "secret books" written, there were no witnesses to the actual event except the one writing the book. In all cases, the books were not atually written by the person that supposedly wrote the book. For example, the Secret Book of John was not actually written by apostle John. The Apocalypse of Peter was not written by apostle Peter. You have to stand for something or you will fall for anything. Stand with Jesus and what the writings of the New Testament says. Your purpose in life is to be more Holy today than you were yesterday. To pick up your cross and follow the examples of Jesus. To spread the word about Jesus, be his disciple. Let other people see the Jesus in you in your daily living and interactions with others. The folks who wrote those "secret" books were trying to rewrite the Christian narrative to fit into their own personal beliefs. The visions, if visions at all, were probably from Satan.

[@lesliemclean4381]

The father doe not have a name,for there was no one above him to give him a name.Amen

[@prncssbby]

I can't even begin to describe how excited I am to listen to you read this blessings and cheers!

[@alex1701waller]

Doing alright brother. Glad to hear your voice again.

[@mikeq5807]

"Why are you doubting? Why are you afraid? I am with you always. I have come to teach you what is, what was and what is to come that you may understand what is invisible and what is visible, and to teach you about the unshakable race of perfect humankind. So now, lift up your head that you may understand the things I shall tell you today, and that you may relate them to your spiritual friends, who are from the unshakable race of perfect humankind." A/John

[@mikeq5807]

"When Sophia's offspring saw creation surrounding him, and the throng of angels around him who had come forth from him, he said to them, 'I am a jealous god, and there is no other god besides me,' but by announcing this, he suggested to the angels with him that there is another god, for if there were no other god, of whom would he be jealous?" Apocryphon of John

[@allies7184]

God isn't jealous of idols made of wood, but of our love directed at the object. If we love it, then we do not love Him. Be careful! Just because it says it came from St. John doesn't mean it did. A lot of forgeries occurred at this time ; some by means of the devil's tampering.

[@mikeq5807]

@@allies7184 You are missing the storyline. You should take time to read it for yourself. As far as jealousy goes, that is a human attribute, not a divine attribute. God is spirit and transcendent.

[@TheKlecker1]

@@allies7184 You missed the point. the one who claimed to be a jealous god was accidentally created by sophia. sophia was created by the one, the nameless, the all (what you would give a name to, what you would call "god")

[@xbuzzkingx]

I've been patiently waiting for your return Neo. The information from text is transferred to my brain with such ease when read by you. Your voice is perfect for audio books in my opinion.

[@trafficjon400]

Opinions of man stuff or junk and we only know a book . being a much greater thing sounds cruel we are suckers sucking every thing that hurts us in.

[@ronr.511]

29:07 The Devil of Zoroastrianism is mentioned as making the heart of man. Very interesting.

[@donnaflowers2007]

Why if I may ask?

[@freshgirl8329]

Well the bible does say the heart of man is inherently treacherous and evil

[@GwladYrHaf]

Well spotted

[@Atonewithme]

All I have is 😮!!! I did gain a lot and it brought me back to period of grace. Thank you for the reading and bringing it to light.

[@jonathanguernsey7051]

Hey bro, hope you’re still doing good and living in the Kingdom come!! Mad respect brother!!

[@privateaccount6213]

Finally a “Bible” that I can actually feel inside of myself. I could never emotionally connect to any religion, even coming from hardcore christians family, I felt deep within myself that it was all wrong and I stood my grounds even with all the hate from my family. You are the only true temple my entire family is LOST and believing in a lie

[@Shoop...]

Everyone I've ever known is lost and the path ahead is of unfathomable solitude and longing

[@ceciliasandoval1726]

There will be FALSE gods. This is it.

[@derrekdevon2366]

If what is written in this book is indeed true then it makes his(The Christ) sacrifice for us on the cross all the more profound. He came to die and save a creation which was not intended to be in the first place. The devil is the ruler of this world but our heavenly father bypassed the devil and came down to create a way for us to get to him. O how I pray that the holy spirit can reveal these things to me

[@mataafa1]

Yes....

[@Cintamanigem]

Amen

[@mmk1470]

Have you heard about 1-2 book of adam and eve..?

[@derrekdevon2366]

@@mmk1470 what's that about?

[@mmk1470]

@@derrekdevon2366 in the book of adam and eve, God says he will became flesh and save all the children of adam.

[@JadetheGoober]

Bless you for this, fam.

[@JadetheGoober]

I’m sorry did Jesus straight up tell us every piece of our body is governed by a different daimon. And they have managers? And He put himself through this!?

[@nacolaonthecontrarytv5683]

Ty sooo much for reading and sharing

[@shaydesofblue2281]

The fact that this is one of the 2 books I know was banned from churches on KZbin baffles me. I need a hard copy

[@aaronsanchez4217]

Where is a hard copy?

[@CyrilViktor]

BRILLIANT!!!

[@trafficjon400]

But true is never because paper is paper.

[@mmk1470]

Hello! Is this contradict in the 1-2 book of adam and eve?

[@mikeq5807]

"Sophia wanted to bring forth something like herself, without the consent of the spirit, the male. She gave birth. It was misshapen. When Sophia saw what her desire had produced, it changed into the figure of a snake with the face of a lion. She cast it away from her. She had produced it ignorantly. She surrounded it with a bright cloud so that no one would see it except the holy spirit, who is called the mother of the living." Apocryphon of John

[@trafficjon400]

So then what is God Dead or some thing? makes more man made false stuff driving people to madness and closing down hospitals for the very nervous lol not funny but what else does one do.

[@jamiewilson5162]

Illuminating!

[@hooverboy2747]

Something to add, when they say Demon it’s really Diemon or Daemon (forget the spelling) doesn’t mean Demon like we know it today… mean Star or Light, basically an angel.

[@mataafa1]

❤

[@alpage9306]

She is wisdom, the womb where the reality is sheltered The foundations

[@mataafa1]

❤

[@RoopZ]

This version of Christianity makes soo much more sense than the mainstream version. No wonder in the Talmud Jesus was hated soo much.

[@mataafa1]

Of course …

[@bostonbilly33]

I definitely nvr heard that before... Was weird but good

[@cowel8734]

it's crazy how anyone could read the Gnostic text and not think they are God inspired

[@sterlingwalter5971]

They are fantastical.

[@freshgirl8329]

I'm about half way through . Cant help but wonder why theres so much info and detail on how the demons created the image of their man? Am i hearing it wrong? Also, it sounds like the summerian texts

[@TheWhyisthatso]

"For as the lightning comes from the east and shines even unto the west, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be " ( Mathew 24:27 ) The "LIGHTNING" = the "LIGHT" (Truth) of the gospel (good news) OF (from) Christ (Jesus) The "EAST" = a little town in EGYPT called NAG HAMMADI, and the "Gnostic Gospels" The "WEST" = the western world, and namely the USA who is "ISRAEL" (Ephraim) The "SON OF MAN" = a Divine Title that tells us WHO WE ARE "In Christ"....a PERFECT "MAN"

[@patrickthespiritman5777]

Listen to the gospel of Mary after this - praise God

[@thinkneothink3055]

Are you familiar with the First Gnostic Church of Christ channel?

[@patrickthespiritman5777]

@@thinkneothink3055 no I will check it out tho!!

[@RemmyJKnowings]

I am what I see..,at all times. There is NO other!

[@doriesse824]

@49:30 Q: "Then I asked, 'Lord, how does the soul shrink down so as to be able to enter into a mother or a man? He was happy that I asked this, and said:" A: "You are truly blessed because you have understood. The soul should be guided by another within whom is the spirit of life. It will be saved by that means, and accordingly will not have to enter a body again." Is anyone else confused at this answer? Did he say how the soul is able to enter another body, if that is what needs to happen?

[@crunch4620]

By reincarnation

[@doriesse824]

@@crunch4620 The question is how does the soul enter into a body? How, if and when it reincarnates, does it "shrink down" and where is the entry point?

[@crunch4620]

@@doriesse824 OK I'm going to try to answer cos I'm also searching. You get walk-ins and soul exchanges. Read up on it. King Herod thought that jesus was John the Baptist who came back. It was impossible because they were only 6 months apart. So the people in those days believed in walk-ins. Then there's soul replacements too. So maybe a soul need not always enter through a mother or father.

[@doriesse824]

@@crunch4620 Looked into that over 20 years ago, but it doesn't answer the question asked of Jesus about "how" the soul enters the body, through the flesh and bones. Jesus said that was a very good question being asked, but He didn't seem to answer it.

[@mikeq5807]

"The One gives immeasurable and incomprehensible light. Its eternal realm is incorruptible, at peace, dwelling in silence, at rest, before everything. We would not know what is ineffable, we would not understand what is immeasurable, were it not for what has come from the father. This is the one who has told these things to us alone." Apocryphon of John

[@deshawnterry9291]

Thought creates reality. States of mind #visualization

[@user-co6ll4fr1v]

Thank you. It finally makes better sense. I still question if yaldaboath and yahweh aren't one and the same, though.

[@mataafa1]

Yes....... good path to travel down

[@suzanneschmidt3755]

They are in my opinion

[@axelgarcia-santos2667]

They are the same. Yaldaboath has many names. Jehovah, Demiurge, Samael, Yahweh. Basically the old Testament "God".

[@edsueshay]

Yes they are.💜

[@mmk1470]

Yaldaboath is the devil... Jehovah is God

[@brendafulmernickel1218]

And he did all that while taking care of Mary, Jesus Christ’s mother! I’m so sorry to see all these people’s financial life put to death, but this is where they are headed! No Doubt!!

[@josephdanejackson]

I find it interesting when John describes the Tree of Life. It lines up with the description of nightshades, and more specifically, shares description of pomegranates, and their symbolism in Greek Mythology. Forbidden Fruit indeed! My brother, who switched to the Carnivore diet, a year ago, noticed that nightshades in general, even the edible ones, are particularly bad for us. He no longer has tolerance to them, after switching to Carnivore.

[@organicsoul5361]

Came to hear about Archons, am i at right place?

[@thinkneothink3055]

IMO Archons aren’t literal entities; rather metaphors for spiritual forces that underly physical reality. So this may not be what you’re looking for.

[@mrrrokas]

This book should have made the new testament

[@baerkaabnaab2388]

They don't want the truth to be part of the trap lest minds escape from the trap they made by removing the books containing the "light"

[@howardjamespatterson4119]

It is new when you hear it the first time , but you feel it first . It cannot be lost , only hidden . It is a part of our souls , our spirit . Words fall short and can only guide where one may find it , words not to be worshipped , but tools of inspiration . The path , your path , must be travelled by you , with the tools you find that work for you . Well , there's are my words .

[@howardjamespatterson4119]

@KAELIE LEE Who are they ? Leave them to their own devices and nurture your self and loved ones ?

[@howardjamespatterson4119]

@KAELIE LEE Who are they ? The unfortunate ? Nurture your own soul and your loved ones.....stay out of politics . It is a no use wasting your time on people that are not interested in such matters .

[@juansum9933]

I think the man weekend up is all people that all in World need weekend up now Thanks 🙏 in this Gospel secret of Jonh

[@privatprivat7279]

44:22 anyone knows what the divine strategy is for men and women? (i believe) for women to raise there children to become strong/fair/heartfull and respectfull towards other human beings...and for man to shape the future of the human species on our path to the universe. lead by our intelligence instead of our ancient animal instincts

[@FayAlexGG]

📖

[@elliotmaldonado9875]

This is the same spirit that appear to Abraham and his son in the book of jasher😮

[@malcolmdullah1560]

Modern Christians hate this. They cant believe there are more than 66 books. They think that their books are the only correct one. Without thinkin their 66 books could be be false too. Yea i get it, those 66 books did put an imprint on you.

[@Sage.Craft.]

Those 66 texts are actually Gnostic as well. The Bible is full of paganism and witchcraft.

[@Soya22181]

Even though I do not agree with this book...I just want to say thank you for not having an annoying voice...these other channels are extremely annoying..they either talk really gentle and low like some its some asmr reading or they have high pitched sharp voices that can shatter sky scraper glass...

[@trafficjon400]

voice really tought you a lot one would feel sick to relate.

[@miriam-by5br]

Please tell me who’s is epinoia😳🤔

[@mataafa1]

Purposeful thought

[@pendejo6466]

Who's Jon?

[@mikeq5807]

"Sophia's offspring took her power, then left her. He mated with the mindlessness in him and produced authorities for himself. The sixth is Cain. The seventh is Abel. He shared his fire with them, but he did not give away any of the power of the light that he had taken from his mother, for he is ignorant darkness. He is wicked in his mindlessness. He said, 'I am god, and there is no other god but me', since he did not know from where his own strength had come from." A/John

[@stephencrum530]

I think I'm part annunaki am I cursed? I am good, I am love, I am, honor and integrity, I am patience and understanding, I am charity and I am ego masculine. Am I cursed?

[@raywest7222]

your fine the annunaki aren't aliens they are Sumerian gods. they are just the gods of a dead religion. literally harmless

[@jhonsmithy2873]

Fuck yes, I hope you read all the gnostic texts!

[@clothedwiththesun]

Can anyone help me here? This is the single thing I cannot get my head around. If this book clearly presents the writer to be the same John that was the personal disciple whom Jesus loved, then why was he so suddenly confused and ‘disorientated’ by the merest of challenges from the Pharisees whom said that he had simply been deceived….. and had shamefully departed from the traditions? I mean, this is the John who saw Jesus in the flesh, who saw him raise the dead, heal the leper, turn water into wine, walk on water, cast out devils? This is the same John who saw Jesus on the mount of transfiguration, who saw Jesus crucified, risen from the dead, and ascended into heaven???? Who heard and recorded his teachings. If he was afraid for his life when challenged by these Pharisees, sure, deny Jesus like Peter did and get forgiveness later…. Run off and hide yourself in a cave somewhere! But to go off into the wilderness, shaken and confused because of this notorious ‘brood of vipers’, knowing them to be the conspiring liars, extortioners and murderers that they were! This Makes no sense at least!!! spurious at best!!!

[@gigam57]

All the things from the bible about John you listed, might as well be put there for this exact reason. Jehovah mixes truths with lies. He deacives. Those might all be not true, moreso, put there exactly to discredit the true testimony.

[@StevenSchoolAlchemy]

Greetings

[@malcolmdullah1560]

Very similar to Hinduism

[@bronzecobra8556]

I am glad that connection, I feel the same way. It’s like Hinduism and Christianity had a baby.

[@MetalGearTenno]

Comparing this audio to Johns book of revelation it is clear that these are two completley different authors.

[@thinkneothink3055]

I agree. Though there are many parallels in the canonical Gospel of John and the Secret Book of John. I think those two may have had the same author.

[@MetalGearTenno]

@@thinkneothink3055 There are also contradictions to.

[@thinkneothink3055]

@@MetalGearTenno But I think fundamentally they’re very similar. The biggest is the idea of the elect, or those who are chosen, or “born of spirit”. The Gospel of John is the only NT book, IMO, that promotes the idea that salvation is predestined for a handful of people, much like the idea of the elect in the Gnostic tradition.

[@MetalGearTenno]

@@thinkneothink3055 Gods elect are not only ones that are saved. That is not what John is saying. The elect are the most spiritually mature in Christ that walked closer with God than the rest of the body of Christ. Prophets prophecise in part but if you want a better overall prophecy then i strongly recommend the book of Enoch. He was by far the most powerful prophet that was shown everything from the very beginning to the very end of human history.

[@doriesse824]

@@MetalGearTenno prophesy

[@jamesonkimbrel6415]

Waaay more accurate stuff here

[@112deeps]

One without second. Non-dual Advaita .

[@cargomovers3656]

All this contradicts the book of Ephesians. What is this?

[@cargomovers3656]

Infact the whole Bible...

[@cargomovers3656]

Who created who?

[@gigam57]

This the true teaching which is why it is not found in the bible. Bible was a mainstream version, written for deception and control of the masses.

[@miriam-by5br]

This is too much to comprehend like it’s from the cosmos

[@avasunxo]

Can someone help me find an online readable text copy?? I would greatly appreciate it.

[@thinkneothink3055]

Gnosis.org

[@mariajocheingchang5492]

Thanks our Lord Savior Jesus Christ Amen 🙏

[@elliotmaldonado9875]

My friend no profit no apostille not even Christ could have done it without the Holy spirit.

[@iamme4070]

What bothered me when I followed Christianity. Is a loving God created ppl who he knew ahead would be shiity, and need salvation.

[@sterlingwalter5971]

He gave you You. free will Not to be shitty, ahem.

[@josephsalmonte4995]

Stop regurgitating nonsense. Why would a perfect loving God create an evil world everything has to kill & eat everything else to survive? ​@@sterlingwalter5971

[@mikeq5807]

"SOPHIA realized that something was lacking when the brightness of her light diminished. She grew dim because her partner had not collaborated with her." A/John "THE SOUL attains perfection and is saved when she awakens from forgetfulness and attains knowledge. Souls who have knowledge and turn away blaspheme against the spirit, and will be tortured and punished." eternally." A/John "LET WHOEVER hears arise from deep sleep." A/John

[@randomhuman4283]

chaos theory

[@issac6803]

Will listen elsewhere as already 2 commercials just 10 minutes in

[@TheUrantia001]

well use ad blocker then like everyone else...

[@doriesse824]

@@TheUrantia001 KZbin has blocked Adblockers.

[@avasunxo]

Am I not such an embodiement? Listen -- and I will lead you to paradise, to the Soul's Freedom. #IAM

[@patrickthespiritman5777]

39:45 garden of Eden

[@hershalgroundjr585]

Didn't know demons had their own comic books

[@trafficjon400]

what ever on paper. yet bad does happen and thats some thing to go figure and not all human but some thing we don't know because its cruel. Whether Man or some thing we can't see but sure can feel.

[@diamonteii7941]

@7:00 is this Lucifer, God's first creation, I wonder.. 🤔

[@diamonteii7941]

@15:12 I knew it..

[@diamonteii7941]

@22:11 the sewer water's hitting the fan, now.. is not that what the Jews say their God said.. A deep muddy mind bog's getting drained here..

[@diamonteii7941]

@36:20 genius, it must be love..

[@diamonteii7941]

@38:24 am wondering if that hiding spot could be the pineal gland as the pineal is hidden in mankind, calculating💡🔍 this is amazing!!

[@diamonteii7941]

...thank you for sharing.. Will pass it on, as it was divulged to me.

[@elliotmaldonado9875]

2nd Corinthians 11:14/ Genesis 3:4-5 Corinthians 4:4 2nd Timothy 2:15😮

[@tannerworm]

interesting book but i dont think it is true

[@servant7777]

I believe the Gospel of Thomas is Jesus's words. However, I'm very doubtful of this book.

[@tannerworm]

@@servant7777 Gospel of Thomas says there is forgiveness if you blaspheme the father and son but not for the Holy Spirit which is all wrong

[@servant7777]

@@tannerworm That's the same thing the Bible says. Matthew 12.31 Jesus said "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven." Jesus said many controversial things which many don't realize he said.

[@tannerworm]

@@servant7777 wow i did not know that

[@servant7777]

@@tannerworm Jesus also said this... Luke 14.26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple." Many like to imagine Jesus the way the Church presents him as being all loving and peaceful like a hippie. Its true Jesus had a compassionate side, but Jesus also had a raw side. He purposely told people what they didn't want to hear to scare the hypocrites away.

[@hieihakusho5058]

Yahweh and Elohim are brothers Abel and Cain, these are who Isreal and Canaanites worship in Land of Canaan, for the longest I thought these were the names of the True God, so I assume that the “God” other the the “God most High”, must be Micheal(Sabioth) and chief demon so called Satan, I must read the story of Annunaki for this sounds like this, I already read the “Gnostic of Creation”

[@elliotmaldonado9875]

365 days in one year add that in how old are you today. Hopefully you have read the Holy Scripture at least five to six times. And I'm sure you won't be as confused as you are today.

[@kgwash33rd65]

This is craaazy😮. I rebuke everything this is saying in Jesus name. Wow!

[@hb8213]

32:00

[@patrickthespiritman5777]

51:13 Fate the last verity of imprisonment

[@Shoop...]

It seems as the plight of daily life to keep us distracted from becoming aware of our divine spark and the gift of deathless life.

[@jamiescott1080]

This sounds like Taoism.

[@josephsalmonte4995]

It is absolutely NOTHING like Taoism. Wtf are you talking about? 😂

[@rudyochoao559-79]

This is 100% critical to what everything my savior the one who gave his life on the cross Yashua aka Jesus Christ had spoken in every other book blasphemy and I say you shall reap what you have sown

[@bjorn____]

Nope

[@elliotmaldonado9875]

Without the word of God without the Holy Ghost you will be so confused and start believing doctrines and teachings of demons😮

[@elliotmaldonado9875]

Satan a master Deceiver😮

[@jjkramer82]

Fake news

[@elliotmaldonado9875]

Satan is a master Deceiver he first deceive a third of the holy angels in heaven😮 now imagine that❤

[@JRJones333]

This has been proven heretical. Jesus is not the God of confusion, Satan is. Jesus would not teach his disciples one thing while he was living in human form and then after his death have individual visions with a select few and tell them something totally different. There's several secret books written after Jesus's death. The Secret Book of James, The Gospel of Mary (Magdalene), The Gospel of Thomas, Secret Book of John, Apocalypse of Peter, and a few more. The original 4 Gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John) were written when there were witnesses still alive to validate the contents. With all the "secret books" written, there were no witnesses to the actual event except the one writing the book. In all cases, the books were not actually written by the person that supposedly wrote the book. For example, the Secret Book of John was not actually written by apostle John. The Apocalypse of Peter was not written by apostle Peter. You have to stand for something or you will fall for anything. Stand with Jesus and what the writings of the New Testament says. Your purpose in life is to be more Holy today than you were yesterday. To pick up your cross and follow the examples of Jesus. To spread the word about Jesus, be his disciple. Let other people see the Jesus in you in your daily living and interactions with others. The folks who wrote those "secret" books were trying to rewrite the Christian narrative to fit into their own personal beliefs. The visions, if visions at all, were probably from Satan.

[@hopelesssumo768]

So u want me to believe that your Gospels are better than this ones u just mentioned ...based on what? because "holy" church says it "is"? think about it for a minute, aren't you trusting way too much in that institution?

[@SmurfLove666]

Mathew mark Luke and John were all written after the death of Jesus too

[@SmurfLove666]

Mathew mark Luke and John were all written after the death of Jesus too

[@JRJones333]

@@SmurfLove666 .....Some of the original 12 disciples were still living when the Gospels were written. That's the difference. Jesus was not going to say one thing while he was living and then say something totally different in a vision to a select few after his death. Jesus is the way and the truth. Satan is the master of confusion.

[@JRJones333]

@@hopelesssumo768 .....I trust in Jesus. The four Gospels were written while some of the original 12 disciples were still living and could attest to the facts. Jesus is the Way and the Truth. Satan is the master of confusion. Jesus is not going to say one thing while he was living but then say something totally different to a select few in a vision after his death.

[@angiescott2688]

Shes is blessed but a creation not the creator. Reading the book of John of the Bible does not read as the same person. But it does feel as if possible because our egos do go through periods of questions.. Who can completely understand without breaking one of the Ten commandments. But a new commandment i wright love your ext..... I have issues following the bible as is. Much less this book which distrorys the whole Bible. Not buying this. But hold no ill will.