The Secret Interchange between the Victoria and Elizabeth Lines

[@scottc1589]

One might even call it "Victoria's secret."

[@genericfootyfan]

The victoria lining. Sorry, that was pants.

[@genericfootyfan]

Sir, that's what I was aiming for. I was hoping for a Bra-vo though...

[@spenny690]

Ho ho!

[@Lego6980]

Haha.

[@chrimbo90]

Purveyors of fine underground

[@bingbong7316]

I feel somewhat swindled out of a dingy subterranean walkway.

[@JoeGrohlDJ]

Same here. I was looking forward to learning of the existence of something I didn't know about.

[@hisdivinegraceimperialmaje4178]

they should have just linked it with a tunnel tbh

[@Aiten89]

Agree - this is quite obvious. I think citymapper suggests it as the default.

[@fetastoragreta]

😅

[@yellowfishschool]

Agreed I do this interchange already when I visit family in London and I thought he was going to reveal some secret underground connection hack😅

[@Jademalo]

The clip at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="15">0:15</a> has an absolutely wild optical illusion where it looks like you're going down the escalator, and the guy in front is defying gravity and standing at a crazy angle

[@SamLyndonShow]

Was not listening in the slightest during that clip. Was mesmerised

[@Sandwich1414]

We have a similar optical illusion here in Melbourne at a station called Parliament. The escalators that lead to the Bourke Street exits are quite long and have a design that, if looking straight up, lead to an optical illusion that the tunnel is shifting. It's caused by the overhead lights and the shape of the tunnel I think?

[@adamski-l5w]

I thought it was obvious the escalator is going up. Did I miss something?

[@andybeckman8606]

Try the long escalator at Angel going up. Try looking back holding your head upside down under your arm and it's amazing..

[@nathanlewis42]

@@adamski-l5w same here.

[@tenderlovingcoolness]

I live in Tottenham (Victoria line) and frequently work in Heathrow (Elizabeth). Tried this route a few times but getting out of Oxford Circus, especially walking through crowds then through bond street platforms is time consuming. Quickest route is usually to change at warren street then get the northern line to Tottenham court road. You’ll thank me later. Think I’ve done it 50 minutes from Seven Sisters to terminal 5.

[@stuartcampbell2107]

why not a cheeky overground from Hale to stratford? that's what I always used to do!

[@fans8777]

@@stuartcampbell2107 those are slow

[@gamerknown]

My ex lived in Seven Sisters and I lived in yeading, probably the quickest solution would be to move unless you’ve family in Seven Sisters

[@J88HNT]

I second the Warren Street hack. The Northern Line platform is one stair case walk from the Elizabeth line this way. It’s the route I use all the time.

[@GenZ_Zillenial]

@@stuartcampbell2107the overground is a nightmare.

[@alexcranmer8317]

I have used this to change from the Elizabeth to Victoria line and can confirm it works. If going westbound make sure you get on at the back of the train and the front if going east to minimise how far you need to walk.

[@arpwable]

Likewise, I use it frequently on my commute between Brixton and West Drayton. It's so, so much easier and faster than adding an extra change somewhere like Green Park or Paddington.

[@naratoth]

I did that, too, but I stopped recently as TfL was charging me as two jurneys instead of one. Was this the same with you?

[@arpwable]

No they seem to charge me correctly as one journey. Might be worth querying with them

[@alexcranmer8317]

@ there is a time limit between tap outs and tap ins, not sure what it is, but if you go over then you will be charged for 2 journeys.

[@arpwable]

@@alexcranmer8317 true, this is usually at least 15 minutes though. Occasionally only 10 if the stations are really really close, but would have thought that it's at least 15 for this change, which should be more than enough as long as you're not stopping off in a shop in between

[@simonbennett9687]

The key reason for not providing the interchange was that Oxford Circus station is very congested already, because it pretty much fits only below the road space of the junction except for the bit to the south east of the junction. To rebuild it to create the necessary circulation space would have required demolition of the buildings on the south west corner which was considered far too expensive given Crossrail 2 was coming soon after.

[@NicoBurns]

I used this interchange recently when trying to get from Heathrow to Wathamstow. The actual distance wasn't too far to walk. What was a problem however was the lack of step free access at Oxford Circus (I had just come from the airport and had a large suitcase with me). I would recommend this interchange if you're mobile and don't have heavy luggage.

[@AaronJaunty]

Thanks, I commute from Ealing Broadway to Walthamstow and now I have a quicker route compared to changing at Liverpool Street instead!

[@PlanetoftheDeaf]

Yes, Oxford Circus is a pretty grim station really, which needs a massive rebuild.

[@fabe61]

Still a shorter walk than going from Bank to the sodding exit at Bank. I hate Bank.

[@GoGetFletch]

I understand the argument for not wanting to have a continuous platform from Tottenham Court Road to Dean Street to Oxford Circus. However, I do think they should have design a pedestrian “subway” to connect Dean Street to Oxford Circus without having to go overground. This would have provided the required connection between the Lizzie Line and Victoria Line.

[@miguelbarreira5005]

Appropriate that I am watching this on my walk home from an afternoon of trainspotting in my Portuguese hometown 😅

[@malthuswasright]

A lot of the interchanges from tube lines to the Elizabeth line involve a hefty hike. Particularly if you get on the wrong end of the Elizabeth line train. But even if you're going from the tube, the Elizabeth Line platforms are frequently several minutes' walk away.

[@usakousa]

Jubilee Line is a bit like that too...

[@hairyairey]

Geoff Marshall had an app on the iPhone showing the best doors to use on the underground. Not sure it's still available now. Also, Malthus was wrong and right. He hadn't predicted the Industrial Revolution

[@stephenspackman5573]

They should run trains along those platforms….

[@bighamster2]

​@@hairyaireyCitymapper does something similar, I think

[@highpath4776]

@@hairyairey but what when the water runs out

[@Damien.D]

We French in Paris, we have very distant interchanges in our metro too, so, we, because we are better than anyone on earth, of course, and because we have domestically built high speed train, and also have very smelly cheeses, we've built ( at Montparnasse - Bienvenüe station ) the record breaking High Speed Travelator ! It tackled the 180m interchange at the zooming speed of 11km/h, allowing your smelly cheese to not rot too much more before managing to get it in the freezer. Despite being a money pit, users tends to fall like bowling pins when using it, and it only worked for 3 years...

[@jh-ec7si]

The Liz line could do with some travellators in the underground interchanges honestly, it's shocking how far they expect people to walk. Scaled up the trains with no sense that the people didn't scale up with them.

[@nedludd7622]

If you are coming from the north on lines 4 or 12, it is better to go two stations farther to reach the 8 if that is what you want. If you want the trains, you can then take 8 one or two stations. If it is 13, you are sort of screwed, except that Gaité is not so far.

[@guysatchwell6990]

So what happens now it's broken?

[@Damien.D]

​@@guysatchwell6990it has been converted, at high cost, to a basic low speed travelator.

[@timothyblake9213]

@@jh-ec7si Trouble is, most of the tunnels are curved, and they haven't invented curved travellators yet, as far as I know.

[@seandcanty]

It's been less than 24hours since watching and I've already used this interchange

[@nlipskaya]

I’ve been using this interchange for ages❤ feel like a proper londoner

[@roberthuron9160]

Meanwhile,back in Yerkes old hometown,Chicago,the Subways,have super long platforms,with multiple entrances,and exits! Basically,there are 3 stations,but on a continuous platform! And there are 2 parallel subways,going North/South,and several lines operating through! The Red Line,being most prominent,as it operates from 95th Street,to Linden Terminal in the North! Anyway,Jago,this is my 2cents! Thank you 😇 😊!

[@noticks1961]

I was going to chime in about Japanese metro transfers being like 🚇🚶⬅️🚶↙️🚶↖️🚶⬅️🚶🛗🚶⬅️🚶↖️🚶🚇 but that platform the CTA has got is surely one of a kind 👌👌

[@roberthuron9160]

@noticks1961 Actually it's two[2],of a kind,really twins!! Thank you 😇 😊!

[@highpath4776]

Strange that Yerkes never really thought of that, maybe the cost of investment in two lift shafts in London was too great

[@sianwarwick633]

Yes, but spookily, the trains don't go anywhere.

[@justinsamuels5516]

How bizarre - I found that Elizabeth Line exit at Hanover Square literally 5 days ago... when getting fed up of Oxford Street and lamenting the distance to Bond Street for my train escape home - I guess Jago must have had exactly the same predicament on the same day as me! The difference being is that he had the genius to make a video out of it! Love it. (It is a beautiful exit station too!)

[@usakousa]

It's such a long walk from the Elizabeth Line platform to other lines at Bond Street, I'm sure walking to Oxford Circus to change to Victoria Line doesn't take much longer, as long as you find the right exit. (Finding the Dean Street exit at Tottenham Court Road wasn't easy the first time for me.)

[@jfreilly135]

Thanks!

[@JagoHazzard]

And thank you!

[@Joald]

Learning about the Hanover Square exit was completely devastating to me. Turns out I had been unnecessarily changing to the central line SO MANY TIMES! Galling!

[@araylaurence6220]

I know it isn't too practical for every station but it would be an interesting topic to talk about station and track modernisation

[@SamAronow]

I can't wait until you go to Chicago and find out that the underground platforms on the Blue and Red Lines just continue between stations, so you can literally just walk between stations by walking along them.

[@konradc12]

I discovered how close the Elizabeth Line Bond Street Hanover Square entrance/exit was close to Oxford Circus, when I researched for a friend and myself, to get to John Lewis store. The long platforms practically covers the missing Oxford Circus stop. Being close to the Abbey Wood end of the Elizabeth line has practically halved the journey times to central London. Also Southeastern trains have cut back on some routes, and the interchange at London Bridge is really long. Even the interchange between in this video is faster! Even Thameslink are taking over, or filling in Southeastern route on the Woolwich line!

[@bostonrailfan2427]

“there is a twist in the tale” then zooms in on the word well played, sir. well played!

[@Jwm367t]

lets be honest we might as well not count the Piccadilly line as an interchange - it connects only at Heathrow at the extreme end of both lines

[@taiterobinson793]

I literally though for a sec: “where does the Elizabeth connect with the Bakerl… oh right Paddington!” 😂

[@katrinabryce]

The out of station interchange at Bond St / Oxford Circus probably involves about the same or slightly less walking.

[@camjkerman]

I make this connection fairly regularly on my commute between Acton and Elephant & Castle. It's quite a nice connection, too. Open air is always nice, and you pass a few cafes and at least one fast food establishment, perfect for those rushed mornings. The only downside is how busy Oxford Street can be in the afternoons.

[@Batters56]

What about the Hanover Square exit? Nicer and closer?

[@MikayeYakovlev]

the original plan for the Elizabeth line was to have a station at Oxford Street, but not Bond Street and, possibly, not TCR too. But, the geometry of building foundations & existing underground tube infrastructure at Oxford Street proved to be too complicated for a cost-efficient integration of the huge Elizabeth Lime platforms.

[@craigcook9715]

Awl right, but you probably couldn't dig the tunnels and stations of the Elizabeth Lime with a 🍸 gimlet 😂.

[@kidmohair8151]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="88">01:28</a> the government of the time didn’t “think” public transport was on the way out. it was actively planning on, and encouraging, that happening.

[@erwallace1]

Thanks Jago! You always cheer my Wednesdays up

[@lil_swarlette]

They should've just done what they do with metro stations in Tokyo and build massive underground walkways between stations. See: Nishi-Shinjuku - Shinjuku Nishiguchi - Shinjuku - Shinjuku Sanchome. Or Otemachi - Tokyo - Nijubashimae - Hibiya - Yurakucho - Ginza - Higashi-ginza (yes really)

[@Unknownety]

Meanwhile as someone living in Stockholm I always feel happy that the Stockholm metro/bus/commuter service doesn't charge its fares in the same excessively nuanced way as the London underground, and instead just charge for time. ie, in Stockholm one has 75 minutes to get from A to B on a "single trip ticket", can freely exit and enter stations, change mode of transport, even take the ferry. At least until one's 75 minutes has elapsed and one needs a new ticket. Or one can get a day ticket and have 24 hours to roam freely for not all that much more, or a week long ticket, month or even annual. With this as my perspective, the London underground and its list of "out of station interchanges" and specific prices depending on the specific fare is baffling to say the least. But likewise can I understand the similar stance on "why pay for 75 minutes for a 15 minute journey?!" Likewise does it cost the same to by a month long ticket on the Stockholm commuter network and never use it compared to practically riding around the network continuously 24/7 for a month. How is that "fair pricing"? And the simple answer is, the service runs the same schedule regardless if you use it or not, the extra cost for carrying you along for the ride is relatively marginal, you don't pay for your trip, you pay for having the service available since that is the majority of the cost.

[@craigcook9715]

SF, a geographically much smaller city than Stockholm, gives one 120 minutes. When I was very young and took Swedish language classes (by the Svenska Institut) in Stockholm one year, I remember the "70-kortet" for a month. 70 SEK for a month. Best I can tell prices are now x5 (CPI 353 vs 1738), so that would be 350 SEK today. That might have been a student rate (considering it's nearly 50 years ago, I'm not positive), but it's below the SEK 1020 adult 30 day fare. Although for those with US dollars, it's actually cheaper today for the discount fare, and the full fare isn't that much more (USD 78 => 92), fully adjusting for inflation, and taking into account current and historic exchange rates.

[@dikmorling4112]

Am I missing something but what about interchange with the Piccadilly Line. Sure at Heathrow, but that hardly is usable for someone travelling from Cockfosters to Reading or Stratford say. Is there any secret interchange in central London?

[@rupep2424]

So the Victoria line was Crossrail 0. Hope we get a Crossrail 2 soon - even if just a 1st phase between Clapham Junction & Euston - esp if HS2's TBMs to Euston can be used...

[@nicolasblume1046]

The Vic is faster than the other lines, but it's a short line with small trains. I would say Thameslink is Crossrail 0

[@katrinabryce]

Thameslink is Crossrail 1. Or 1.5 if you count the Northern City Line.

[@MrSmith1984]

If you want to build Crossrail 2, you are far better off building it all at once.

[@hairyairey]

@@rupep2424 Don't get me started on the number of TBMs employed on HS2!

[@nicolasblume1046]

@@katrinabryce if thameslink is Crossrail one, what is the actual crossrail 1 (Elisabeth line)?

[@Vinbot123]

Fun fact: the reason that the waterloo and city line which only has two stations being water and bank is not called the waterloo and bank line is because people were concerned that londoners would shorten it's name to the wank line :)

[@Interdimensional27]

Bank station used to be called City, when the line was constructed. Hence the name, although your explanation could be why it never got updated

[@Shalott63]

It's even more annoying that the Elizabeth line does not connect with the Piccadilly line in central London (I do realise they have an interchange at Heathrow, but that's not much use for routes like Bounds Green to Woolwich).

[@sashaazarov]

Yes, was just about to comment the same. The Heathrow connection is not particularly useful!

[@andrewcbartlett]

It's a pleasant walk from Bond Street down to Green Park

[@tantaf123]

I am in a car journey and it is current freezing outside, and watching the newest Jago video has made me completely forget I was freezing cold. Thanks Jago!

[@samuelgarrod8327]

Get your cars heating fixed then. 🙄

[@tantaf123]

i never said the heating was broken though did i? lol

[@oxcart4172]

​​@@tantaf123 Ok, remember to put the heating on next time!

[@tantaf123]

it was on, lmao

[@tommo7802]

Then what's the Picadilly line's excuse? And Heathrow doesn't count, it's the end of the line way out of town.

[@reececollison5101]

I came to the comments to say this, you’ll never go to Heathrow to change with the Piccadilly line

[@Wildcard71]

Then you have to take the joint line of Circle, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan.

[@JKK_85]

It's also not an interchange you get charged 2 separate journeys.

[@katrinabryce]

@@JKK_85 Because Heathrow Piccadilly Line, Heathrow Elizabeth Line and Heathrow Heathrow Express are three different zones, except that Elizabeth Line and Piccadilly Line both count towards the Zone 6 daily/weekly cap.

[@birdbrain4445]

It's interesting how many OSIs there are on the network - some are marked on the map but many are not (because, well, as if the map isn't busy enough already.) This was one I had no idea about, but it makes sense and I'm sure that came to mind during the planning of the line. Not connecting to the Victoria Line at all would be a glaring omission otherwise, as you say. Great video!

[@tomwilmott3426]

i was quite surprised to see Bowes Park to Bounds Green is one

[@hairyairey]

@@birdbrain4445 Harry Beck would hate the bloated mess that the Tube Map has become.

[@willfenley760]

This ought to be the start of a secret interchange series, if you say there are more?! I’ve heard of one between Queensway and Bayswater that is quicker than changing between Central and Circle/District platforms at Notting Hill Gate.

[@JagoHazzard]

That one is coming next week!

[@ADAMEDWARDS17]

My understanding is that Oxford Circus is so busy, it would have been dangerous to add the Elizabeth Line into the mix. There was, I believe, a study done using peoples phones to track where people were at Oxford Circus and TfL discovered the station had far more people inside in rush hour than they thought because of the people changing lines and not registering on the gates in and out. The other reason is the plan for Crossrail 2 which will be the Victoria Line bypass and have cross platform interchange with the Elizabeth Line (the Line formerly known as Crossrail 1) at Tottenham Court Road. I'm sure you could do more than one video on Crossrail 2 given how many variations of routes there have been over the years. (You probably have already and I've missed it!)

[@simonbennett9687]

There’s no plan for cross-platform interchange between Crossrails 1 and 2. The alignments cross more or less at right angles. The design is for a set of escalators down another level from the currently not publicly open part of the central concourse of the Elizabeth line station to the Crossrail 2 platforms.

[@highpath4776]

you dont need an app to see whats happening at oxford circus

[@ADAMEDWARDS17]

@@simonbennett9687 Thank you for that correction. I need to look out for that location.

[@simonbennett9687]

@@ADAMEDWARDS17 You can see the Crossrail 2 alignment here: crossrail2.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Crossrail-2-Safeguarding-Directions-March-2015-Rev-4.0-final-volume-2-corrected.pdf

[@simonbennett9687]

@@ADAMEDWARDS17 All the tunnelled EL stations except Liverpool St have black walls at the end of the concourse leading from the escalators to the platforms (At Liverpool St the concourse runs the full length of the station). At TCR the concourse tunnel was excavated for the full length too (it wasn't at Bond St or Farringdon because there are obstacles or ground conditions which made that impractical) and it sits there, partly used for storage and station operations I believe, between the two black walls, waiting for Crossrail 2.

[@maxeylifetv2676]

I appreciate the Victoria line in winter, even rough sleepers made it their home because its so hot and the fact that it runs 24/7

[@MrGreatplum]

The “out of station” interchanges fascinates me, especially as someone who always uses a travel card so never worried about all this tapping in and out malarkey!

[@jaakkomantyjarvi7515]

The pondering of Elizabeth line - Tube interchanges is reminiscent of a question I once came across, viz. whether it would be technically possible to drive around the entire Tube network with a single train, i.e. changing from one line to another where such connections can be found. The answer was yes, such connections do exist between all lines except for the weirdly self-contained W&C, but such a journey would take more than a day because it would essentially require running each line both ways, and it would be impossible in practice because of other traffic except maybe on Christmas Day.

[@norbitonflyer5625]

It would be possible, but not during traffic hours because of differing signalling systems. Starting at the Northern, there is a link to the Picadilly at Euston/Kings Cross. There is a link from the Piccadilly to the Victoria at Finsbury Park, and of course between the Picadilly and surface lines at Acton Town or Rayners Lane. From the surface lines you can get to the Central via a connection at Ruislip depot, and to the Jubilee at Neasden. Finally, there is a connection between the Jubilee and Bakerloo at Baker Street. Or you could get between the Bakerloo and District by way of the Overground line between Willesden Junction and Gunnersbury.

[@PootisHasBeenEngaged]

I always thought about this too seeing the crossovers underground… interesting people figured it out!

[@jaakkomantyjarvi7515]

@@norbitonflyer5625 Someone pointed out in the discussion I referred to above that Willesden Junction to Gunnersbury or vv by Tube train would not even be theoretically possible because of the difference in the way electricity is supplied on the Tube vs National Rail trains.

[@petermichaelgreen]

The waterloo and city used to have a vehicle lift to move vehicles on and off the line, but it was demolished to make way for the Eurostar terminal, so if they need to get anything on and off the line now they need to use a crane. There do exist adapter wagons which allow (empty) tube trains to be hauled by locomotives on national rail lines. They are often used to deliver new tube trains to London.

[@AlphaBee6]

@@jaakkomantyjarvi7515 That section of the Overground runs on overhead (AC) transmission. It used to use third rail (DC) transmission in its North London/Silverlink days. Even with that, Underground trains need a 4th middle rail to be able to run at all.

[@iansanderson4664]

I found this as an interchange from Bakerloo to Elizabeth line when I needed a route frtom Piccadilly Circus to my home near the eastern end of the Elizabeth Line. Long ago I worked in several offices near Oxford Circus, including one in Hanover Square, so I know that area well.

[@BigglesAboutTown]

I found this hack on one of my visits to London earlier this year, when I had to go from Paddington to Oxford Circus, and was very proud of myself

[@jlr108]

Was briefly staying in north London last year and decided to go to Canary Wharf and to try out the Elizabeth Line for the first time in the process. Took the Northern Line from Hendon Central and saw, from the map on the carriage wall, that Moorgate connected to the Elizabeth Line, so got off there. I didn't expect such a long walk! And when I got on the Elizabeth Line train, the map didn't mention Moorgate at all - only Liverpool Street. Took me a while to put together why this was so. I felt a bit bamboozled by that.

[@richardekers3025]

How about a video about all the best and least known OSIs?

[@johnm2012]

I use one that used to be advertised between West Ruislip (Central line) and Ickenham (Piccadilly line) but it doesn't seem to be marked as such any longer.

[@87CVH]

I would love to see a map that highlights out of stationinterchanges more clearer

[@barttheanorak]

I always thought it would have been good if they could have had a stop at Russell Square and consequently an in-capital interchange with the Piccadilly (Heathrow notwithstanding, being a mutual terminus on the outskirts).

[@simonbennett9687]

The Elizabeth line route is much closer to Holborn than Russell Square. An interchange station was considered as part of the original 1990s Crossrail scheme but the disbenefit to journey times of another stop outweighed the benefits of having the interchange.

[@rebeccaolayinka3861]

This was good, I actually love riding the tubes more for the accessibility and speed than the hygiene (I shudder) Thank you 😍 💖 for breaking this down as a person who lives very north London who has the northern or Piccadilly lines for journeys it’s helpful to know about the interchange re Victoria and Lizzy lines as I had thought there wasn’t, so found this informative thanks 🙏🏾

[@everybodygotthegoodones]

Big up Jago Hazzard

[@send2gl]

Problem with an 'out of station interchange ' is if it is raining one needs a brolly.

[@joelharris1335]

There is also short walk between Hartford (Cheshire - WCML) and Greenbank (CLC - Chester to Manchester via Knutsford)

[@uktrains5679]

Excellent Jago! I love these quirky but very interesting videos of yours

[@hugsparty]

uh, is it just me or was the cab door open on that train at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="53">0:53</a>

[@AtheistOrphan]

Certainly looks like it. Well-spotted!

[@magnushmann]

I immediately saw that as well. It's even opened as he enters the station seemingly

[@hugsparty]

@@magnushmann going for a world record driver changeover time or just desperate for the loo?

[@satoshiaaron]

Yeah it was. It is has been a point of contention for a while. Drivers like having the door open for airflow but some have criticised it as dangerous. I personally don't see a problem with it. A certain news publication brought this into question a while ago when someone see a Picadilly line driver do it. A lot of the newer units have interlocks on the doors now so you can't do it. It was a common practice back in the day

[@jamesbutler6253]

Not unusual. I've een it a lot, its to cool down the cab.

[@katrinabryce]

I've used that quite a few times. It takes about the same amount of time as interchanging between the Central Line and Victoria or Bakerloo Lines at Oxford Circus.

[@roderickmain9697]

Would not surprise me to find some disused tunnel down there that actually connects the two. Then again, TfL might be worried about increasing passengers numbers to one station or another and adding to congestion. Sometimes I get to thinking that it would better if they filled them all in and started again. OR maybe, creating a subsurface city where everything is joined up by underground streets. They are halfway there at Bank anyway.

[@SupportIsraelLGBTQ]

If the government wasnt corrupt this would work

[@Grim_Beard]

"creating a subsurface city where everything is joined up by underground streets" They effectively do this in a few places in Japan - it works well there.

[@timothyblake9213]

@@Grim_Beard Not to mention Toronto and (I think) Montreal. Canadian winters are so severe that you need a parallel city underground.

[@maxeylifetv2676]

Liverpool Street to Moorgate, as I pointed out in one of my videos, is an essential connection to the Gt Northern railway for a quick trip to north London. Try it by road and you’ll appreciate it.

[@janaltus]

I arrived at the Western end of the platform at Liverpool Street's Elizabeth Line and tried walking to the railway station (to catch a bus north). The distance was phenomenal (I'm disabled and had to stop and rest several times). I reckon there should be warning signs about just how far it is from the Lizzie Line platform to the Mainline station.

[@john1703]

Please don't knock the Victoria Line. LT diverted the Northern Line City Branch at Euston to allow you to continue south from Finchley, to Green Park, on the Victoria Line, via a level across-platform change at Euston; or north from the City to Finsbury Park (Victoria Line), across the other platform. This means that the Victoria line lines are left-right swapped at Euston, and the running tunnels roll over each other, before and after Euston Station.

[@AlphaBee6]

Don't forget Oxford Circus interchange with the Bakerloo line. Secret best way to get to Waterloo from North London - just hop across the platform, rather than run the gauntlet of steps and passageways at Green Park!

[@iankemp1131]

@@AlphaBee6 Absolutely right. It's a pity that TfL don't identify the cross-platform interchanges in some way, it would be really useful. It took me some years (as a non-regular user then) to discover the Bakerloo/Victoria CPI when the natural route from the map looks like the Northern and change at Warren Street or Euston.

[@pipandkitty2004]

London probably looks like a slice of Swiss cheese underground with the amount of tunnels 😂

[@skortyspice]

What a great video. Side note, "exit six: king William street, lombard street, fenchurch street" yeah OK makes sense. "exit one: poultry" OK I need context for this.

[@MPSpecial]

always fun to me to see Londoners declare in awe that the platforms of the Elizabeth line are so long they span two tube stations, tis been the case for decades in Paris with the RER and it led to this weird interchange complex made of six stations linked together, where line 3 stops thrice and which takes 15 minutes to walk fully

[@aarushicrystalis7998]

first time ive opened one of your videos and my reaction has been, ffs i knew this, i was hoping for a secret tunnel. hope it helps those that didnt know

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Yay Elizabeth Line discourse! I missed it. Remember when we thought it would never finish?

[@Jimyjames73]

That escalator looks very futuristic @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="18">0:18</a> with the Digital Adverts on the side!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂

[@MarkMaddyGriff]

The fleeting meeting of two Monarchs

[@richardeyers322]

brilliant as always just brilliant

[@user-fp6dt1os1l]

Only Jago can stretch an OSI into a 6 minute video.

[@erikthenorviking8251]

But truly a voice made for steam radio!! Mr. Hazzard, you are the Wilhelm Furtwangler to my Carl Schuricht (if that doesn't sound a bit... dodgy🤔!!

[@K1W1fly]

You can get from Victoria to Elizabeth via a couple of Georges and a couple of Edwards...

[@iranair777]

My secret!!! Noooo!

[@jodypitt3629]

Hi Jago, a good suggestion would be to install extractor fans into ventilation shafts to draw in the outside air to make life easier for commuters travelling on the underground.

[@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759]

I can't wait to give the video a new title - Victoria's Secret 😁😁😁

[@zdavis4222]

As a provincial type who hasn't used my local railway station, which is about two miles away, since 1980 (although I have used a train occasionally when on holiday since then), I feel I am entering an alternative universe and not one about 100 miles away when I watch Jago's entertaining videos. I am trying to waffle my through this comment by avoiding the use of the word 'nerdy' - oops, I have just failed!

[@telhudson863]

When it is quicker to walk to another station than it is to walk to the other end of the train ...

[@Lego6980]

Love the mega-nerdy video. Thanks Jagiebaby!

[@Garfie489]

Is there a good reason to serve Bond Street rather than Green Park? Bond street is only two stations down the central from Tottenham Court Road, also served by the Elizabeth line. By moving Bond Street to Green Park, you still get a Jubilee line connection - but you also gain a Victoria line connection, plus a significantly more convenient Piccadilly line connection than what already exists (and doesnt require travel into Heathrow). I realise Bond Street is more desirable a location than Green Park, but for an express route intending to take the burden off other lines - increasing connections seems an obvious benefit.

[@AlphaBee6]

Probably would be more difficult and costly to build both in distance and in a organisational sense. The Elizabeth line runs alongside the Central Line without crossing it between TCR and Bond Street, which takes some of the weight off navigating a fairly crowded existing tube network (plus a possible Crossrail 2 to add to that).

[@yonmusak]

Euston to Euston Square by foot is quite a useful hop to get to Heathrow, from Northern train lines coming into London

[@a1white]

Why are the dwell times, at stations, so long for Elizabeth line trains? I checked my watch the other day and noticed it was taking between 45 and 50 seconds at each station. Way longer than a tube train sits at each station.

[@NineWorldsFromDrew]

But for those of us who don’t have to worry about using these interchanges to save a little money on fares, which is quicker? A. Exiting Bond Street at Hanover Square, and walking the shortest route to Oxford Circus entrance? Or B. Changing for the central line at Bond Street, hopping one stop to Oxford Circus, and changing again in-station for the Victoria line?

[@iamsneddon]

I used to regularly travel from Berkshire to Finsbury Park and while I did use this interchange at times, I found it often easier to change at Farringdon and use the Overground service there. No idea if it’s counted as one journey mind.

[@Jon88938]

Could you do a video on the Elizabeth line - Central line interchange at Tottenham Court Road? I think from the first plans there was meant to be a tunnel but somewhere it got lost and now it’s that awkward up through two gates and back down.

[@elroyvanderley6460]

There is also an entrance in a shopping mall in between oxford and bondstreet.

[@Maltloaflegrande]

O:09 Nice one Jago. Michael Flanders lives on!

[@JL-rx6hl]

so why didnt they dig a pedestrian walkway between OC and BS

[@janaltus]

Because they want us to go up to the surface and go shopping! 😂

[@profregan6937]

A revelation! Excellent.

[@pantoGOGO]

Great video. this was the first one of yours that I have seen. definitely subscribing for more please

[@johnplampin7274]

Both the Chicago CTA subways (State Street and Dearborn Street) have continuous playforms. The trains just stop at several stations on each. I think the State St. Platform is over a mile long. Dearborn a bit less.

[@benjamin_newton]

Surprisingly interesting for someone who doesn't use the Tube. I would be interested in more maps (official underground or otherwise) showing where the stations are in relation to each other.

[@Komrav]

erm Victoria line is the BEST line in London. We Love it!

[@Amdecreations.]

I always look at the Elizabeth line as like an updated better version of the Jubilee line.

[@ViscountAlbany]

The Victoria line was not designed to do the same job as the Elizabeth. It was designed primarily to relieve congestion on the busiest section of the Northern, Piccadilly and Bakerloo, which is why Euston, Finsbury Park and Oxford Circus have cross-platform interchanges with the Victoria. Thameslink is the north-south version of the Elizabeth line.

[@lazrseagull54]

Why is the Elizabeth line not part of London Overground? Why does London need so many differently branded rail modes?

[@katrinabryce]

The short answer is because it is funded under a different budget, so a political decision. Likewise why the Metropolitan Line is part of the Underground rather than Chiltern Railways.

[@lazrseagull54]

​​​​​@@katrinabryceinteresting, thanks. To me, it makes sense for the met to be part of London Underground because it's a (mostly) urban metro line, while Chiltern is a regional network. London Overground and the Elizabeth line are both suburban/commuter rail lines primarily serving the London area. If London were a German city, the tube and the DLR would be called "U Bahn London" and the Overground, Elizabeth line and all the other rail services that barely leave the M25 would be called "S Bahn London". If London were Spanish, these 2 networks would be called "Metro de Londres" and "Cercanías Londres" respectively. I struggle to embrace the convoluted branding in the UK and the inconsistencies from city to city i.e. rapid transit networks are called underground in London, metro in Newcastle, subway in Glasgow, Merseyrail in Liverpool. Metro in Birmingham means light rail, light rail in East London means metro etc.

[@iankemp1131]

@@katrinabryce Though the Metropolitan line is more for historical reasons - the main part started as an elongated branch off the original core from Paddington to Farringdon. The Met was always a bit schizophrenic - it fought to avoid being rolled into the Grouping of 1923 and becoming part of the LNER, but then they couldn't really argue when they got absorbed into London Transport instead in the 1930s. And the Aylesbury-Amersham section did get transferred from LT to BR (now Chiltern franchise) in 1961.

[@katrinabryce]

@@iankemp1131 And the Northern City Line got transferred to the Northern Line, then British Rail. The East London Line got transferred to the Overground. Both were previously part of The Metropolitan Railway.

[@trueriver1950]

Another interesting fact about Bond St is that the street does not exist: there's Bond St W and Bond St E but no Bond St as such. Am i being too pedantic here? Is that possible?

[@AlphaBee6]

You're right, the street doesn't exist (any more) - there's New Bond Street and Old Bond Street. Amusingly, Bond Street Station is closer to Davies Street than either of those.

[@whyyoulidl]

In Monopoly?

[@marshac1479]

Yeah. I used to do this, getting off at Bond Street but the Hannover Sq exit.

[@paulgrimshaw6301]

Useful to know. Now we just need a link tunnel to avoid all those crowds on the surface and at station entrances.

[@paulhunter6178]

I've liked this video - consider yourself "pleased as punched". Curious expression!

[@peterdean8009]

It's "pleased as Punch", Punch being the smug, self-satisfied half of Punch & Judy.

[@johnm2012]

​@@peterdean8009That's the way to do it.

[@SpeakMouthWords]

It doesn't count if my poor little earses get cold :(

[@comicus01]

The Picadilly and Elizabeth interconnect at Heathrow, but I wouldn't really say that counts. They completely bypass each other in central London.

[@TheShortStory]

Do it all the time going to/from Heathrow. The only problem I had was before I figured out the Hanover Square exit was so close. Walked all the way to Davies St.

[@DavidShepheard]

A few years before the Pandemic there was a story in the news about Oxford Circus Station closing 60 times per year because of overcrowding on the platforms. I believe that overcrowding was actually on the Victoria Line, were the platforms are smaller. If Crossrail had connected to Oxford Circus, instead of Bond Street, the passenger levels generated by Crossrail would have seen Oxford Circus get closed more, instead of less. I believe that Crossrail intentionally skipped Oxford Circus, so that anyone changing between the Central Line and Crossrail would avoid changing at Oxford Circus and passenger numbers there would hopefully decrease.

[@zenwallace1137]

I am sad at Paddington the Elizabeth line has no tunnel that goes directly to the District line. I have to go all the way up and outside and walk through the main station to get there.