The Secret Interchange between the Victoria and Elizabeth Lines

[@scottc1589]

One might even call it "Victoria's secret."

[@genericfootyfan]

The victoria lining. Sorry, that was pants.

[@genericfootyfan]

Sir, that's what I was aiming for. I was hoping for a Bra-vo though...

[@spenny690]

Ho ho!

[@Lego6980]

Haha.

[@alexcranmer8317]

I have used this to change from the Elizabeth to Victoria line and can confirm it works. If going westbound make sure you get on at the back of the train and the front if going east to minimise how far you need to walk.

[@arpwable]

Likewise, I use it frequently on my commute between Brixton and West Drayton. It's so, so much easier and faster than adding an extra change somewhere like Green Park or Paddington.

[@Jademalo]

The clip at 0:15 has an absolutely wild optical illusion where it looks like you're going down the escalator, and the guy in front is defying gravity and standing at a crazy angle

[@SamLyndonShow]

Was not listening in the slightest during that clip. Was mesmerised

[@Sandwich1414]

We have a similar optical illusion here in Melbourne at a station called Parliament. The escalators that lead to the Bourke Street exits are quite long and have a design that, if looking straight up, lead to an optical illusion that the tunnel is shifting. It's caused by the overhead lights and the shape of the tunnel I think?

[@adamski-l5w]

I thought it was obvious the escalator is going up. Did I miss something?

[@bostonrailfan2427]

“there is a twist in the tale” then zooms in on the word well played, sir. well played!

[@malthuswasright]

A lot of the interchanges from tube lines to the Elizabeth line involve a hefty hike. Particularly if you get on the wrong end of the Elizabeth line train. But even if you're going from the tube, the Elizabeth Line platforms are frequently several minutes' walk away.

[@usakousa]

Jubilee Line is a bit like that too...

[@hairyairey]

Geoff Marshall had an app on the iPhone showing the best doors to use on the underground. Not sure it's still available now. Also, Malthus was wrong and right. He hadn't predicted the Industrial Revolution

[@stephenspackman5573]

They should run trains along those platforms….

[@bighamster2]

​@@hairyaireyCitymapper does something similar, I think

[@highpath4776]

@@hairyairey but what when the water runs out

[@roberthuron9160]

Meanwhile,back in Yerkes old hometown,Chicago,the Subways,have super long platforms,with multiple entrances,and exits! Basically,there are 3 stations,but on a continuous platform! And there are 2 parallel subways,going North/South,and several lines operating through! The Red Line,being most prominent,as it operates from 95th Street,to Linden Terminal in the North! Anyway,Jago,this is my 2cents! Thank you 😇 😊!

[@noticks1961]

I was going to chime in about Japanese metro transfers being like 🚇🚶⬅️🚶↙️🚶↖️🚶⬅️🚶🛗🚶⬅️🚶↖️🚶🚇 but that platform the CTA has got is surely one of a kind 👌👌

[@roberthuron9160]

@noticks1961 Actually it's two[2],of a kind,really twins!! Thank you 😇 😊!

[@highpath4776]

Strange that Yerkes never really thought of that, maybe the cost of investment in two lift shafts in London was too great

[@NicoBurns]

I used this interchange recently when trying to get from Heathrow to Wathamstow. The actual distance wasn't too far to walk. What was a problem however was the lack of step free access at Oxford Circus (I had just come from the airport and had a large suitcase with me). I would recommend this interchange if you're mobile and don't have heavy luggage.

[@araylaurence6220]

I know it isn't too practical for every station but it would be an interesting topic to talk about station and track modernisation

[@roderickmain9697]

Would not surprise me to find some disused tunnel down there that actually connects the two. Then again, TfL might be worried about increasing passengers numbers to one station or another and adding to congestion. Sometimes I get to thinking that it would better if they filled them all in and started again. OR maybe, creating a subsurface city where everything is joined up by underground streets. They are halfway there at Bank anyway.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Yay Elizabeth Line discourse! I missed it. Remember when we thought it would never finish?

[@Shalott63]

It's even more annoying that the Elizabeth line does not connect with the Piccadilly line in central London (I do realise they have an interchange at Heathrow, but that's not much use for routes like Bounds Green to Woolwich).

[@sashaazarov]

Yes, was just about to comment the same. The Heathrow connection is not particularly useful!

[@erwallace1]

Thanks Jago! You always cheer my Wednesdays up

[@tantaf123]

I am in a car journey and it is current freezing outside, and watching the newest Jago video has made me completely forget I was freezing cold. Thanks Jago!

[@miguelbarreira5005]

Appropriate that I am watching this on my walk home from an afternoon of trainspotting in my Portuguese hometown 😅

[@camjkerman]

I make this connection fairly regularly on my commute between Acton and Elephant & Castle. It's quite a nice connection, too. Open air is always nice, and you pass a few cafes and at least one fast food establishment, perfect for those rushed mornings. The only downside is how busy Oxford Street can be in the afternoons.

[@Batters56]

What about the Hanover Square exit? Nicer and closer?

[@qwertyTRiG]

"The museum is made up of a series of interconnected zones devoted to the contemplation of how we see things. Through a combination of science and art, the museum hopes to bring people together, challenging them and encouraging them to discuss and reflect on the ways in which we all perceive the world differently." The TWIST Museum has one of those About pages which is so high concept that it completely fails to explain the basics, such as what the museum is about.

[@usakousa]

It's such a long walk from the Elizabeth Line platform to other lines at Bond Street, I'm sure walking to Oxford Circus to change to Victoria Line doesn't take much longer, as long as you find the right exit. (Finding the Dean Street exit at Tottenham Court Road wasn't easy the first time for me.)

[@tommo7802]

Then what's the Picadilly line's excuse? And Heathrow doesn't count, it's the end of the line way out of town.

[@reececollison5101]

I came to the comments to say this, you’ll never go to Heathrow to change with the Piccadilly line

[@Wildcard71]

Then you have to take the joint line of Circle, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan.

[@kwlkid85]

It's also not an interchange you get charged 2 separate journeys.

[@katrinabryce]

@@kwlkid85 Because Heathrow Piccadilly Line, Heathrow Elizabeth Line and Heathrow Heathrow Express are three different zones, except that Elizabeth Line and Piccadilly Line both count towards the Zone 6 daily/weekly cap.

[@Damien.D]

We French in Paris, we have very distant interchanges in our metro too, so, we, because we are better than anyone on earth, of course, and because we have domestically built high speed train, and also have very smelly cheeses, we've built ( at Montparnasse - Bienvenüe station ) the record breaking High Speed Travelator ! It tackled the 180m interchange at the zooming speed of 11km/h, allowing your smelly cheese to not rot too much more before managing to get it in the freezer. Despite being a money pit, users tends to fall like bowling pins when using it, and it only worked for 3 years...

[@jh-ec7si]

The Liz line could do with some travellators in the underground interchanges honestly, it's shocking how far they expect people to walk. Scaled up the trains with no sense that the people didn't scale up with them.

[@nedludd7622]

If you are coming from the north on lines 4 or 12, it is better to go two stations farther to reach the 8 if that is what you want. If you want the trains, you can then take 8 one or two stations. If it is 13, you are sort of screwed, except that Gaité is not so far.

[@simonbennett9687]

The key reason for not providing the interchange was that Oxford Circus station is very congested already, because it pretty much fits only below the road space of the junction except for the bit to the south east of the junction. To rebuild it to create the necessary circulation space would have required demolition of the buildings on the south west corner which was considered far too expensive given Crossrail 2 was coming soon after.

[@MPSpecial]

always fun to me to see Londoners declare in awe that the platforms of the Elizabeth line are so long they span two tube stations, tis been the case for decades in Paris with the RER and it led to this weird interchange complex made of six stations linked together, where line 3 stops thrice and which takes 15 minutes to walk fully

[@K1W1fly]

You can get from Victoria to Elizabeth via a couple of Georges and a couple of Edwards...

[@birdbrain4445]

It's interesting how many OSIs there are on the network - some are marked on the map but many are not (because, well, as if the map isn't busy enough already.) This was one I had no idea about, but it makes sense and I'm sure that came to mind during the planning of the line. Not connecting to the Victoria Line at all would be a glaring omission otherwise, as you say. Great video!

[@tomwilmott3426]

i was quite surprised to see Bowes Park to Bounds Green is one

[@hairyairey]

@@birdbrain4445 Harry Beck would hate the bloated mess that the Tube Map has become.

[@kidmohair8151]

01:28 the government of the time didn’t “think” public transport was on the way out. it was actively planning on, and encouraging, that happening.

[@ADAMEDWARDS17]

My understanding is that Oxford Circus is so busy, it would have been dangerous to add the Elizabeth Line into the mix. There was, I believe, a study done using peoples phones to track where people were at Oxford Circus and TfL discovered the station had far more people inside in rush hour than they thought because of the people changing lines and not registering on the gates in and out. The other reason is the plan for Crossrail 2 which will be the Victoria Line bypass and have cross platform interchange with the Elizabeth Line (the Line formerly known as Crossrail 1) at Tottenham Court Road. I'm sure you could do more than one video on Crossrail 2 given how many variations of routes there have been over the years. (You probably have already and I've missed it!)

[@simonbennett9687]

There’s no plan for cross-platform interchange between Crossrails 1 and 2. The alignments cross more or less at right angles. The design is for a set of escalators down another level from the currently not publicly open part of the central concourse of the Elizabeth line station to the Crossrail 2 platforms.

[@highpath4776]

you dont need an app to see whats happening at oxford circus

[@ADAMEDWARDS17]

@@simonbennett9687 Thank you for that correction. I need to look out for that location.

[@simonbennett9687]

@@ADAMEDWARDS17 You can see the Crossrail 2 alignment here: crossrail2.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Crossrail-2-Safeguarding-Directions-March-2015-Rev-4.0-final-volume-2-corrected.pdf

[@simonbennett9687]

@@ADAMEDWARDS17 All the tunnelled EL stations except Liverpool St have black walls at the end of the concourse leading from the escalators to the platforms (At Liverpool St the concourse runs the full length of the station). At TCR the concourse tunnel was excavated for the full length too (it wasn't at Bond St or Farringdon because there are obstacles or ground conditions which made that impractical) and it sits there, partly used for storage and station operations I believe, between the two black walls, waiting for Crossrail 2.

[@richardekers3025]

How about a video about all the best and least known OSIs?

[@johnm2012]

I use one that used to be advertised between West Ruislip (Central line) and Ickenham (Piccadilly line) but it doesn't seem to be marked as such any longer.

[@jaakkomantyjarvi7515]

The pondering of Elizabeth line - Tube interchanges is reminiscent of a question I once came across, viz. whether it would be technically possible to drive around the entire Tube network with a single train, i.e. changing from one line to another where such connections can be found. The answer was yes, such connections do exist between all lines except for the weirdly self-contained W&C, but such a journey would take more than a day because it would essentially require running each line both ways, and it would be impossible in practice because of other traffic except maybe on Christmas Day.

[@norbitonflyer5625]

It would be possible, but not during traffic hours because of differing signalling systems. Starting at the Northern, there is a link to the Picadilly at Euston/Kings Cross. There is a link from the Piccadilly to the Victoria at Finsbury Park, and of course between the Picadilly and surface lines at Acton Town or Rayners Lane. From the surface lines you can get to the Central via a connection at Ruislip depot, and to the Jubilee at Neasden. Finally, there is a connection between the Jubilee and Bakerloo at Baker Street. Or you could get between the Bakerloo and District by way of the Overground line between Willesden Junction and Gunnersbury.

[@PootisHasBeenEngaged]

I always thought about this too seeing the crossovers underground… interesting people figured it out!

[@jaakkomantyjarvi7515]

@@norbitonflyer5625 Someone pointed out in the discussion I referred to above that Willesden Junction to Gunnersbury or vv by Tube train would not even be theoretically possible because of the difference in the way electricity is supplied on the Tube vs National Rail trains.

[@petermichaelgreen]

The waterloo and city used to have a vehicle lift to move vehicles on and off the line, but it was demolished to make way for the Eurostar terminal, so if they need to get anything on and off the line now they need to use a crane. There do exist adapter wagons which allow (empty) tube trains to be hauled by locomotives on national rail lines. They are often used to deliver new tube trains to London.

[@AlphaBee6]

@@jaakkomantyjarvi7515 That section of the Overground runs on overhead (AC) transmission. It used to use third rail (DC) transmission in its North London/Silverlink days. Even with that, Underground trains need a 4th middle rail to be able to run at all.

[@rupep2424]

So the Victoria line was Crossrail 0. Hope we get a Crossrail 2 soon - even if just a 1st phase between Clapham Junction & Euston - esp if HS2's TBMs to Euston can be used...

[@nicolasblume1046]

The Vic is faster than the other lines, but it's a short line with small trains. I would say Thameslink is Crossrail 0

[@katrinabryce]

Thameslink is Crossrail 1. Or 1.5 if you count the Northern City Line.

[@MrSmith1984]

If you want to build Crossrail 2, you are far better off building it all at once.

[@hairyairey]

@@rupep2424 Don't get me started on the number of TBMs employed on HS2!

[@nicolasblume1046]

@@katrinabryce if thameslink is Crossrail one, what is the actual crossrail 1 (Elisabeth line)?

[@Joald]

Learning about the Hanover Square exit was completely devastating to me. Turns out I had been unnecessarily changing to the central line SO MANY TIMES! Galling!

[@paulhunter6178]

I've liked this video - consider yourself "pleased as punched". Curious expression!

[@peterdean8009]

It's "pleased as Punch", Punch being the smug, self-satisfied half of Punch & Judy.

[@johnm2012]

​@@peterdean8009That's the way to do it.

[@taiterobinson793]

I literally though for a sec: “where does the Elizabeth connect with the Bakerl… oh right Paddington!” 😂

[@katrinabryce]

The out of station interchange at Bond St / Oxford Circus probably involves about the same or slightly less walking.

[@bingbong7316]

I feel somewhat swindled out of a dingy subterranean walkway.

[@katrinabryce]

I've used that quite a few times. It takes about the same amount of time as interchanging between the Central Line and Victoria or Bakerloo Lines at Oxford Circus.

[@87CVH]

I would love to see a map that highlights out of stationinterchanges more clearer

[@DonQuixote-g7j]

Perfect timing...my daughter's travelling from home - Harold Wood - to Brixton for a gig tonight. Cheers ears.

[@Amdecreations.]

I always look at the Elizabeth line as like an updated better version of the Jubilee line.

[@NineWorldsFromDrew]

But for those of us who don’t have to worry about using these interchanges to save a little money on fares, which is quicker? A. Exiting Bond Street at Hanover Square, and walking the shortest route to Oxford Circus entrance? Or B. Changing for the central line at Bond Street, hopping one stop to Oxford Circus, and changing again in-station for the Victoria line?

[@everybodygotthegoodones]

Big up Jago Hazzard

[@Jimyjames73]

That escalator looks very futuristic @ 0:18 with the Digital Adverts on the side!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂

[@iranair777]

My secret!!! Noooo!

[@uktrains5679]

Excellent Jago! I love these quirky but very interesting videos of yours

[@orangeblue5587]

If I can, I avoid the Elizabeth line. The ways to the underground platforms are too long. Especially Paddington. You arrive at platform 12 or 14 of the railway station and then you have to walk through the whole station. Very bad planning. This is just one example. There are more

[@Kolavskaya]

I dare say, though, that, given the E-Train is also supposed to drive (no pun intended) tourism, the fact that 12,559 (as of sending this comment) Jago Hazzard viewers now know 'the secret' feels a bit like a James Bond movie being screened in an empty cinema - very secret indeed! As far as tourists are concerned, many of them, for reasons we Londoners don't always appreciate, wish to get to Oxford Street, and don't necessary know that Marble Arch through T'ham Ct Rd all are on Oxfords Street, depending on which Primark you're trying to catch a bargain at (if they still both exist). So, for tourists at least, 'Oxford Circus' it is! Simples, right? A wee underground tunnel with a travelator from Bond Street marked 'Oxford Circus' might be a neat, just about affordable addition - as long as the tunnel doesn't collide with one of the other couple of dozen tunnels already underground in that area. I think such a travelator - or its lack thereof - a grave oversight on behalf of the planning team.

[@simonbennett9687]

We planners are not idiots and such things are not oversights, they are disappointing results of not having the money to do absolutely everything. Adding Crossrail passengers to Oxford Circus station was modelled and to make it work it would have required demolishing the buildings on the south west corner of Oxford St. This was predicted to have greater cost than the benefits.

[@ajons190]

Effectively, though, the Lizzy Line 'misses' both the Piccadilly and Victoria Lines which IMO is a design fault. Travelling from an arc of North/North-East London there is no simple way to access the line.

[@alexaghios6049]

I honestly wish Bond Street had a connection with Oxford Circus (Bakerloo and Victoria lines) so the Elizabeth Line would connect with all line (not including W&C), plus Tottenham Court Road having an interchange with the Piccadilly Line at Holborn. Might sound delusional, but that would have been convenient

[@DavidShepheard]

A few years before the Pandemic there was a story in the news about Oxford Circus Station closing 60 times per year because of overcrowding on the platforms. I believe that overcrowding was actually on the Victoria Line, were the platforms are smaller. If Crossrail had connected to Oxford Circus, instead of Bond Street, the passenger levels generated by Crossrail would have seen Oxford Circus get closed more, instead of less. I believe that Crossrail intentionally skipped Oxford Circus, so that anyone changing between the Central Line and Crossrail would avoid changing at Oxford Circus and passenger numbers there would hopefully decrease.

[@allankellynet]

You say the Lizzie doesn't connect with 2 lines: Waterloo & City and Victoria. Where is the connection to the Picadilly? It should be somewhere about Holborn but the Elizabeth doesn't stop there, only TCR.

[@hoosiersands]

Heathrow (I suppose)

[@Wildcard71]

@@hoosiersands It's only one branch of each and far off the city center.

[@hoosiersands]

@@Wildcard71 Yeah, I know but it's the only connection with that line that I know of. Guess you need to ask Jago.

[@kwlkid85]

​@@hoosiersands Even at Terminal 5 where they share a station you still have to exit and enter the separate gatelines and it's not counted as an interchange so charged as 2 journeys. It's like the opposite of an OSI, same station no interchange.

[@allankellynet]

@ duh yes, I was so thinking center I forgot the ends. Does seem like cheating as is the end/start of the line, I can't imagine going all that way to connect! Guess TCR and Holborn could have an out of station in interchange too

[@Jwm367t]

lets be honest we might as well not count the Piccadilly line as an interchange - it connects only at Heathrow at the extreme end of both lines

[@nixcails]

Paris has also gone towards these out of station interchanges to a fashion. But the Elizabeth Line is nothing like the crazy RER and metro stations like the St Lazare, Havre-Charmartin, Opera, Auber, Haussman St Lazare complex or Chatelet Les Halles. London really needs a more regional crossrail like the RER or S Bahn but sadly political will and poor fiscal management by various bodies makes this unlikely in my lifetime

[@Lego6980]

Love the mega-nerdy video. Thanks Jagiebaby!

[@TheShortStory]

Do it all the time going to/from Heathrow. The only problem I had was before I figured out the Hanover Square exit was so close. Walked all the way to Davies St.

[@michaelwright2986]

It occurs to me that the great game of Tube Journey Planning which I am sure you are planning, quirky little known interchanges and what we used to call "tips" but are now known as "hacks" should score extra points. As you are probably aware (since it is your game) the main game play is to plan a maximally efficient route from one improbable point to another. At random stations, the player will be halted until they can come up with some quirky anecdote or little-known fact about the station, or at any rate correctly state whether or not it has a connection with Yerckes. This is known as playing in Hazzard mode. The alternative, Mornington Crescent, mode is only played with visitors from out of Town.

[@zdavis4222]

As a provincial type who hasn't used my local railway station, which is about two miles away, since 1980 (although I have used a train occasionally when on holiday since then), I feel I am entering an alternative universe and not one about 100 miles away when I watch Jago's entertaining videos. I am trying to waffle my through this comment by avoiding the use of the word 'nerdy' - oops, I have just failed!

[@willfenley760]

This ought to be the start of a secret interchange series, if you say there are more?! I’ve heard of one between Queensway and Bayswater that is quicker than changing between Central and Circle/District platforms at Notting Hill Gate.

[@danlastname9002]

Your point about the Bakerloo/H&C at Paddington - it's an out-of-station interchange. It's not the same station.

[@richardeyers322]

brilliant as always just brilliant

[@john1703]

Please don't knock the Victoria Line. LT diverted the Northern Line City Branch at Euston to allow you to continue south from Finchley, to Green Park, on the Victoria Line, via a level across-platform change at Euston; or north from the City to Finsbury Park (Victoria Line), across the other platform. This means that the Victoria line lines are left-right swapped at Euston, and the running tunnels roll over each other, before and after Euston Station.

[@AlphaBee6]

Don't forget Oxford Circus interchange with the Bakerloo line. Secret best way to get to Waterloo from North London - just hop across the platform, rather than run the gauntlet of steps and passageways at Green Park!

[@iankemp1131]

@@AlphaBee6 Absolutely right. It's a pity that TfL don't identify the cross-platform interchanges in some way, it would be really useful. It took me some years (as a non-regular user then) to discover the Bakerloo/Victoria CPI when the natural route from the map looks like the Northern and change at Warren Street or Euston.

[@crazyboutferrets]

Oh my goodness I HATE the interchange between the bakerloo and Hammersmith lines at Paddington, I've used it twice so far and it's SO ANNOYING

[@iankemp1131]

Yep ... better to use Baker Street if you've got the option (not Edgware Road which is again two separate stations with the same name!) Once upon a time the H&C/Met and District/Circle/Bakerloo stations at Paddington were considered to be separate stations, named Bishops Road and Praed Street.

[@RJSRdg]

It used to be a relatively easy change but TfL have gone out of their way in recent years to make it progressively worse, first by moving the entrance to the H&C platforms out of the main line station, then by blocking off the direct staircase from the main line station concourse to the Bakerloo Line ticket hall and replacing it with the new badly-designed entrance to the Bakerloo line. Ironically, by my reckoning the Bakerloo Line platforms pass underneath the Hammersmith and City ones!

[@fosterfuchs]

The Elizabeth Line also doesn't intersect with the Piccadilly line, except for Heathrow. I became aware of this when I was going to return from Germany to the U.S. by flying into London City Airport and then out of Heathrow Airport. I decided to take the Docklands Railway to Stratford, and change to the Elizabeth Line from there. However, since I didn't want to pay extra to take this train all the way to Heathrow, the Piccadilly Line holds sentimental value to me, and I had enough time, I looked for ways to switch to the Piccadilly Line. I noticed this would require two more changes of Underground lines, for which there are several options. I didn't know about the option this video is about, though. Alas, my plans changed, and I didn't get to do the airport transfer. Hopefully another time, when I'll finally have the opportunity to take the Elizabeth Line.

[@kwlkid85]

Jubilee from Canning Town and changing at green park would seem to me to be the best bet

[@fosterfuchs]

@@kwlkid85 True. But I wanted to incorporate the Elizabeth Line, which I have never been on.

[@kwlkid85]

@@fosterfuchs I've done something similar. During the Summer I did Liverpool Street to Heathrow via Ealing Broadway and Acton Town to make the most of the air conditioned Elizabeth line without paying the extra to ride direct.

[@fosterfuchs]

@@kwlkid85 I didn't even think of that. I was looking at interchanges in Zone 1.

[@katrinabryce]

City Airport -[DLR]- Stratford -[Elizabeth]- Ealing Broadway -[District]- Acton Town -[Piccadilly]- Heathrow

[@Maltloaflegrande]

O:09 Nice one Jago. Michael Flanders lives on!

[@comicus01]

The Picadilly and Elizabeth interconnect at Heathrow, but I wouldn't really say that counts. They completely bypass each other in central London.

[@telhudson863]

When it is quicker to walk to another station than it is to walk to the other end of the train ...

[@send2gl]

Problem with an 'out of station interchange ' is if it is raining one needs a brolly.

[@user-fp6dt1os1l]

Only Jago can stretch an OSI into a 6 minute video.

[@joermnyc]

NYC has this, they call it “Out of System Transfer” and it does not count for people using a paper Single Ride card.

[@pipandkitty2004]

London probably looks like a slice of Swiss cheese underground with the amount of tunnels 😂

[@aarushicrystalis7998]

first time ive opened one of your videos and my reaction has been, ffs i knew this, i was hoping for a secret tunnel. hope it helps those that didnt know

[@Alchemist37]

Hi from NZ Jago 👋🇳🇿

[@telhudson863]

It's good to wake up to a Hazzard video on a Thursday morning as summer is kicking in. Greetings from the Winterless North.

[@barttheanorak]

I always thought it would have been good if they could have had a stop at Russell Square and consequently an in-capital interchange with the Piccadilly (Heathrow notwithstanding, being a mutual terminus on the outskirts).

[@simonbennett9687]

The Elizabeth line route is much closer to Holborn than Russell Square. An interchange station was considered as part of the original 1990s Crossrail scheme but the disbenefit to journey times of another stop outweighed the benefits of having the interchange.

[@slidefirst694]

"William Hogarth's painting The March of the Guards to Finchley is set outside the Adam and Eve at the northwest end of Tottenham Court Road."

[@nixmixes770]

I have managed this interchange in 7 minutes from platform to platform (by walking all the escalators) but it's quite a palaver when it's very crowded in Oxford Street.

[@kwlkid85]

The Elizabeth line doesn't really connect with the Piccadilly line. Whilst they do share a station at Heathrow terminal 5 it's not counted as an interchange so you get charged for 2 separate journeys. That plus the Heathrow Elizabeth line surcharge means you'd be mad to do it.

[@johnplampin7274]

Both the Chicago CTA subways (State Street and Dearborn Street) have continuous playforms. The trains just stop at several stations on each. I think the State St. Platform is over a mile long. Dearborn a bit less.

[@joelharris1335]

There is also short walk between Hartford (Cheshire - WCML) and Greenbank (CLC - Chester to Manchester via Knutsford)

[@juliansadler6263]

If the Elizabeth Line platforms extend as far as the Victoria Line why not a simple passage between them? Like the passage between Waterloo and Lambeth North which TfL keep locked nowadays.

[@ZonkerRoberts]

For your next trick please find out why there ISN'T an out-of-station interchange between Edgware Road and... the other Edgware Road (or at least there isn't one shown on the tube map).

[@srfurley]

The Tube Map doesn’t show Out of Station Interchanges, it shows some pairs of stations within a ten minute walk of each other which is not the same thing just to confuse people, unless things have changed in a recent edition.

[@tlantis]

There is an OSI there, which allows you up to 20 mins to get from one gate line to the other. Google ‘TfL OSI’ to get a full list.

[@AlphaBee6]

Same - but for Bethnal Green (Central and Overground).

[@katrinabryce]

There's one between Edgware Rd C&H and Edgware Rd Bakerloo; and between Edgware Rd C&H and Marylebone National Rail, but not between Edgware Rd Bakerloo and Marylebone National Rail (probably because you can continue one more stop to Marylebone Bakerloo where there is an OSI).

[@ZonkerRoberts]

@@AlphaBee6 Good point! And yet there is one between West Hampstead (Jubilee) and West Hampstead (Overground).

[@jadeboswell-rz2ly]

Great video Jago, jolly Goodge show.

[@hugsparty]

uh, is it just me or was the cab door open on that train at 0:53

[@AtheistOrphan]

Certainly looks like it. Well-spotted!

[@magnushmann]

I immediately saw that as well. It's even opened as he enters the station seemingly

[@hugsparty]

@@magnushmann going for a world record driver changeover time or just desperate for the loo?

[@satoshiaaron]

Yeah it was. It is has been a point of contention for a while. Drivers like having the door open for airflow but some have criticised it as dangerous. I personally don't see a problem with it. A certain news publication brought this into question a while ago when someone see a Picadilly line driver do it. A lot of the newer units have interlocks on the doors now so you can't do it. It was a common practice back in the day

[@jamesbutler6253]

Not unusual. I've een it a lot, its to cool down the cab.

[@18robsmith]

...and so the phantom station announcer cries forlornly "All change, all change for Oxford Circus"

[@markcf83]

I've actually done this one. Literally just over 90 seconds at ground level.

[@Andrewjg_89]

My suggestion would be for the Victoria Line to extend from Walthamstow Central to South Woodford and South Woodford to have an interchange with the Central Line and Victoria Line. And the Victoria Line to extend from Brixton to Tulse Hill or Herne Hill and to have interchange with the Victoria Line and National Rail.

[@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759]

I can't wait to give the video a new title - Victoria's Secret 😁😁😁

[@zenwallace1137]

I am sad at Paddington the Elizabeth line has no tunnel that goes directly to the District line. I have to go all the way up and outside and walk through the main station to get there.

[@teecefamilykent]

Brilliant video sir.

[@smcdonald9991]

The London subway & train system looks impossibly complicated to this Canadian.

[@pauljmccluskey5532]

18:53 I wonder how many people realise that there are gaps between tube stations that are walkable, technically at the opposite end and why couldn’t people walk instead of paying unnecessary fares?

[@sunshiney_Sonnenschein]

www.google.de/maps/@49.4639087,11.0819603,295m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOC4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExMjM0SAFQAw%3D%3D Not London but do you also have stations that are so close together you can see the entrance of the next station while exiting a station?

[@erejnion]

Why didn't they just dig a pedestrian tunnel between Bond Street and Oxford Circus? Oh. Money. Yeah.

[@MarkMaddyGriff]

The fleeting meeting of two Monarchs

[@ShadowDragon8685]

Your example makes me think of a funny series you, or Geoff, might do: The Most Illogical Train Journies in London.

[@trueriver1950]

Another interesting fact about Bond St is that the street does not exist: there's Bond St W and Bond St E but no Bond St as such. Am i being too pedantic here? Is that possible?

[@AlphaBee6]

You're right, the street doesn't exist (any more) - there's New Bond Street and Old Bond Street. Amusingly, Bond Street Station is closer to Davies Street than either of those.

[@whyyoulidl]

In Monopoly?

[@davethornton1822]

Somewhere in this 6 minute video, I was expecting more information on how to find it and use it e.g. if you want to get from Elizabeth eastbound to Victoria northbound, be in this part of the train and it's xxxm walk (and the other 7 scenarios)

[@stephenhester9804]

TBH Oxford Circus is already overcrowded at the best of times so it's probably better the EL doesn't have a Station there.

[@jfreilly135]

Thanks!

[@JagoHazzard]

And thank you!

[@lazrseagull54]

Why is the Elizabeth line not part of London Overground? Why does London need so many differently branded rail modes?

[@katrinabryce]

The short answer is because it is funded under a different budget, so a political decision. Likewise why the Metropolitan Line is part of the Underground rather than Chiltern Railways.

[@lazrseagull54]

​​​​​@@katrinabryceinteresting, thanks. To me, it makes sense for the met to be part of London Underground because it's a (mostly) urban metro line, while Chiltern is a regional network. London Overground and the Elizabeth line are both suburban/commuter rail lines primarily serving the London area. If London were a German city, the tube and the DLR would be called "U Bahn London" and the Overground, Elizabeth line and all the other rail services that barely leave the M25 would be called "S Bahn London". If London were Spanish, these 2 networks would be called "Metro de Londres" and "Cercanías Londres" respectively. I struggle to embrace the convoluted branding in the UK and the inconsistencies from city to city i.e. rapid transit networks are called underground in London, metro in Newcastle, subway in Glasgow, Merseyrail in Liverpool. Metro in Birmingham means light rail, light rail in East London means metro etc.

[@iankemp1131]

@@katrinabryce Though the Metropolitan line is more for historical reasons - the main part started as an elongated branch off the original core from Paddington to Farringdon. The Met was always a bit schizophrenic - it fought to avoid being rolled into the Grouping of 1923 and becoming part of the LNER, but then they couldn't really argue when they got absorbed into London Transport instead in the 1930s. And the Aylesbury-Amersham section did get transferred from LT to BR (now Chiltern franchise) in 1961.

[@katrinabryce]

@@iankemp1131 And the Northern City Line got transferred to the Northern Line, then British Rail. The East London Line got transferred to the Overground. Both were previously part of The Metropolitan Railway.

[@RobCCTV]

Speaking as one who has an irrational fear of escalators, this was a particularly hard video to watch. (I do use them, but am quietly petrified when doing so)

[@andyhall7032]

ah yes the lesser spotted out-of-station-interchange list of course...

[@n17hero]

What is the upper limit TfL sets for an out of station interchange? Bank to Liverpool St NR is a 10-15 minute walk for example. Is that really being classed as an interchange?

[@Tevildo]

There isn't a constant figure, each OSI has its own maximum time. The most generous is Fenchurch St to Tower Hill (40 mins to walk 130 m), the one requiring the passenger to be most athletic is Waterloo East to Southwark (10 mins to walk 500 m).

[@katrinabryce]

Yes, you have 40 minutes to get from Bank to Liverpool St, or 20 minutes to get from Liverpool St to Bank. The reason for the difference in time is that you might spend time waiting at Liverpool St for a platform before you go through the gate.

[@zitzong]

The Elizabeth line ignores the victoria line at Oxford Circus 😂 I hope the victoria line has no hard feelings towards the Elizabeth line 🫣

[@Garfie489]

Is there a good reason to serve Bond Street rather than Green Park? Bond street is only two stations down the central from Tottenham Court Road, also served by the Elizabeth line. By moving Bond Street to Green Park, you still get a Jubilee line connection - but you also gain a Victoria line connection, plus a significantly more convenient Piccadilly line connection than what already exists (and doesnt require travel into Heathrow). I realise Bond Street is more desirable a location than Green Park, but for an express route intending to take the burden off other lines - increasing connections seems an obvious benefit.

[@AlphaBee6]

Probably would be more difficult and costly to build both in distance and in a organisational sense. The Elizabeth line runs alongside the Central Line without crossing it between TCR and Bond Street, which takes some of the weight off navigating a fairly crowded existing tube network (plus a possible Crossrail 2 to add to that).

[@fabe61]

Still a shorter walk than going from Bank to the sodding exit at Bank. I hate Bank.