The Secret Roots of Joel Osteen's Beliefs

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Discover the backstory of Pastor Joel Osteen, one of America's most influential spiritual leaders. This video explores Osteen's rise from behind-the-scenes television producer to the charismatic pastor of Lakewood Church, America's largest congregation.
I uncover Osteen's early life and family background, his unexpected transition into ministry, the growth of Lakewood Church under his leadership, key milestones in his career as an author and televangelist. Discover where Joel's message comes from and how it has not only affected him but his family and ministry.
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[@manestage5403]

Every time I hear “your best life now” I get shivers. Imagine that the best life one can ever have is in a fallen body, with a fallen nature, in this fallen world. *shudders*

[@matthewcraig8926]

Wonder how his best life now works in third world countries 🤔

[@susanthroop1279]

Your theology is way off. We no longer have a fallen nature. Maybe you do but if you're born again you have a new nature which will help you renew your mind and receive healing for that "fallen body" But you go ahead and live in sickness and depression and poverty if you want. Joel however lives the abundant life that Jesus came to give us which is really true theology.

[@manestage5403]

@@susanthroop1279Kay…

[@manestage5403]

@@matthewcraig8926 Exactly. It's silly. It doesn't track. That's why when so-called preachers co-opt the prosperity/health/wealth doctrine and pass it off to the poor anywhere as the true gospel, they're the only ones who make out like fat cats-not the listeners. Some American false teachers have left those poor foreign places economically worse than they found them! The true gospel of Jesus Christ leads a person to faith in Christ (not in temporal things) and benefits them for eternity, even if they never make a dime or live another day after being saved.❤

[@matthewcraig8926]

@@susanthroop1279 Whoops I hope you didn't get my reply to you. I misinterpreted what you said. Your right.

[@SheilaSmith-z8g]

The mistake is not believing in miracles. The mistake is not praying for a miracle. The mistake is believing that if we pray for a miracle, were are guaranteed a miracle. No, we ask, God decides.

[@dedasalmeida9047]

All in his will 🙏🏾🙌🏾

[@Toztabud]

Jesus is always willing. He just doesn't always do it our way.

[@susanthroop1279]

You don't need a miracle. You just need to live in the blessing of God which is daily loaded with benefits. God already placed seed time and harvest in the kingdom. That's why giving is so important. Paul tell us if we give abundantly, we reap abundantly. No need for a miracle.

[@dedasalmeida9047]

@@susanthroop1279 you don't need a miracle only if you believe that your works are good enough instead of faith. God's blessings doesn't rely on material wealth and selfish personal gains. Does God bless people financially? Yes of course... Does he does that to everyone? No! Why? Because he is the one who planned everything and he's the one who knows the day after tomorrow. So don't keep chasing "blessings" without the need of "knowing" and have a relationship with Christ. Jesus isn't our personal bank or Santa Claus, he's our father and saviour who needs to be respected and taking his scripture seriously.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@dedasalmeida9047 So a blessing isn't material wealth. Give me a chapter and verse on that. You won't find one because you're scripturally illiterate. Your literate in the doctrines of men and religious traditon. Your completely off the subject of what I address. Blessings ARE material wealth and gain and they don't have to be used for selfish gain. Joel doesn't even take a salary from his church. He lives off the proceeds of his books. Nope your Calvinist doctrine doesn't line up with scripture. You have to participate with God to receive His blessing. And that's not a work--its faith of which you contradicted yourself on. Best get into scripture and not Calvinist doctrines of men of this false idea of God's sovereignty.: Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the Lord, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it Deut 8:18 The blessing of the Lord, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it. "Though the Lord Jesus Christ was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich" (2 Cor.8:9). Scripture is full of prosperity and wealth...read it and study and meditate it to get rid of your doctrines of men. Get baptized in Holy Spirit so you can understand scripture.

[@sarahd5341]

“For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭8‬:‭36‬ ‭

[@susanthroop1279]

Joel's soul isn't forfeited. He's a born again child of God. Just because you don't want to live an abundant life gives you no reason to judge his relationship with God. Most of you on this slam website are jealous.

[@lewlewbelle7275]

@@susanthroop1279 people can continue to live the way they want to when they take verses out of context.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@lewlewbelle7275 That response is a non sequitir. Look it up if you don't know what it means. In other words it does not follow the argument. Learn how to critically think.

[@lewlewbelle7275]

@@susanthroop1279 and I should learn how to critically think from someone thats living their best life now, and believes that’s the message that comes from the Bible….thanks but no thanks. I’ve critically thought, and know that your plucking random verses from the Bible to validate either your sin, the way you’re living, you’re friendship with the world, and your defense of a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@lewlewbelle7275 What scripture says you don't live your best life now? Again you give no substance to your accusations. They're just blanket with a broad brush. And how did I pluck random verses to validate my sin. All you people talk about is sin. As believers were not to even have a consciousness of sin. I have my doubts that you're really a Christian. You have a lot of religion and tradition but no scripture to back up your narrative.

[@bitwize1825]

Watching this now because Osteen won't let this be up for long

[@knotinbutgold]

Just about to comment this lol

[@eddiedontess8585]

Exactly.. Mike Winger already found that out

[@lifeofbeautyk]

Same lol

[@nateperry405]

Same haha. I may download it

[@orderofeden8599]

Although these little docs tend to be surprisingly unbiased. Not overly critical- just giving facts. It might stay up… Might…

[@mbgrafix]

*44:15* Kenneth Hagin actually says the words... *_"...build ye bigger barns"_* ...when I heard that, I immediately thought of the following words of Jesus who offered this parable as a rebuke against the arrogance of the proud and wealthy whose faith is in their works... "And he told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man produced plentifully, and he thought to himself, ‘What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?’ *And he said, ‘I will do this: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones,* and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.”’ But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God.” *LUKE 12:16-21*

[@susanthroop1279]

That's not what Joel teaches. God has nothing against wealth and riches as long as we use it properly. As Paul stated in NT to the wealthy not to be heady or high minded. God is against covetousness which all of you who chime in with the propaganda are guilty of.

[@mbgrafix]

@@susanthroop1279 Speaking sincerely, it sounds like you have an unbiblical view of covetousness.

[@millennialodyssey5956]

​​@@susanthroop1279 right. These people have just gone from following one lie to another. They cannot see the truth. Their rejection of scripture is based off their dissatisfaction of a human being which is greatly stupid. I've listened to so much of Kenneth and I have no idea what the are even talking about. I would love that whole quote. If the person cannot provide it they are being deceptive already.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@millennialodyssey5956That's because either you're not saved and or baptized in Holy Spirit. You can't approach scripture in a carnal, non spiritual way. Your reply says nothing. Its vague and you cite no evidence that "they follow one lie after another." "Their rejection of scripture..." How dare you say that when you as a Calvinist follow a false non scritural gnostic gospel that has no base in scripture. Its based in philosophy.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@mbgrafix And why is my view unbiblical. Is that the only phrase you heretic hunters know? Its unbiblical...its unbiblical.

[@brenthiles3650]

The entire fiasco could have been avoided had Central Baptist Church practiced church discipline and removed him and made public John being unfit to pastor anymore. The New Apostolic Reformation (new pentecostal movement) ignored sin and today we are seein an explosion of the fruit of fallen men being exposed.

[@susanthroop1279]

First of all there is no NAR its a figment of the reformed and Calvinists...its their boogeyman. Secondly there's no reason that a divorced person cant pastor. He remarried and is still the husband of one wife. The video said that John was remorseful about his divorce so your assertion that he "ignored sin" is false. I'm in the Word of Faith movement and take sin very seriously.. Your hyperbole of an explosion of fruit of fallen men is rediculous. Recently weve had 2 Robert Morris and Mike Bickle. That's an "explosion". I think your tongue is an explosion as James says setting propaganda on fire.

[@emilioramirez6116]

The heretical sects of Protestantism are doomed, 382 is the year the Bible came out the Catholic Church, the Bible is Catholic…

[@lontongstroong]

Had Osteen Sr. not hurriedly married when he was still immature physiologically and spiritually, it could've been averted in the first place.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@lontongstroong How do you know that?

[@lontongstroong]

@@susanthroop1279 It's literally in the 5th till 10th minute mark of the content.

[@hmedia101]

Genuinely don’t know anyone who would have been fairer to Osteen than this. You honored him but spoke truth. It’s hard for me to be critical of Osteen because he had such a big role in my life when I lived alone as a depressed teenager, ironically despite what one would have you believe - his message inspired me to take the word seriously, get planted in a local church, trust God in difficult situations. People always focus on Joel talking about the “promises” of God, they seem to leave out the bits where he speaks about adversity and trials, times when it doesn’t seem like God will show up. In today’s modern evangelical church, it’s all too common for people to abandon everything when life gets tough, yet the fruit of Joel’s message seems to be much more biblical. Hopefully this video gives some people some insight to stop calling him the antichrist and start praying for him. A leopard can’t change his spots, but God can do anything

[@diego-search]

My fantasy is for Joel to preach Jonathan Edward's sermon, "Sinners in the hands of an Angry God."

[@RicTheStreetPreacher]

That’s never going to happen.

[@diego-search]

@@RicTheStreetPreacher Fun to dream though.

[@edeancozzens3833]

That was not the normal kind of message Edwards spoke. In that time and location he was dealing with a congregation that needed shaken up.

[@sherrielowery1708]

I have watched Paul Washer at Osteens church several times. It's awesome haha

[@jaiman3107]

That’s antithetical to “his” message… if he did, it would throw away everything he’s preached for decades.

[@pedalfr3ak265]

In all the I AM statements, joel never says i am a sinner in need of a savior, i am corrupted and need Gods grace daily, I am broken without Christ and can do nothing on my own except fall further away from the one who saved me.

[@JTLVideo]

At the end of his sermons he recites a prayer that uses those words. It's generally an altar call but could say that he is saying since he's literally saying it, just not for himself😂

[@edeancozzens3833]

One day when I was in depression, I prayed to Jesus to help me. I was then led to drive into a hotel parking lot nearby where I got out of my car and headed into the lobby. As I walked up to the entrance a man with a western cowboy hat on stepped out and walked up to me. I instantly recognized him. It was Demos Shakarian, the man who started Full Gospel Businessman's Fellowship. I asked and he prayed for me and the depression lifted. It was for me a miracle of the providence of God for me in that moment. Thank you Demos.

[@TheBlessingReport]

Don't take down this video. Joel is going to try to sue you and bully you

[@gregorymurphy6115]

you think he would? he's pretty charitable and honest within this framing. seems pretty not harsh. Doesn't suggest that joel should budd dwyer or anything!

[@TheBlessingReport]

@@gregorymurphy6115 you clearly don’t know him. He legally and literally Sue’s every KZbinr

[@gregorymurphy6115]

@@TheBlessingReport dang. I did not know this. I find it particularly disgusting for a man professing to be a pastor/preacher to use the legal system this way. Horrendous

[@susanthroop1279]

I hope Joel does because he should not allow people to slander and malign him.

[@gregorymurphy6115]

@@susanthroop1279 I'm sorry but how did Christ respond to slander? Did he take the arm of the oppressive powers and smash those who spoke ill of him?

[@majose7787]

Could you please do similar "Making of a Minister" videos on T.D Jakes and Benny Hinn? I think they'd be fascinating people to explore the histories of....

[@AustinBurch1]

Mike Winger has a great video on Benny Hinn. Pretty wild

[@Eds1422]

Came here to make the same recommendation for Mike winger.

[@nancywells2099]

What happened to his 1st son from his 1st marriage?

[@Charlotte-c8s]

Yes I agree I would love to see that

[@edeancozzens3833]

Dodie still lives to this day. Truly a miracle happened. Why mock that? The Bible tells us of a supernatural God who intervenes into this world when we ask Him. He is a good God. I praise and honor Him for that truth. Join me in that.

[@Jacobwashere77]

Mr Joel Osteen is a motivational speaker.

[@CesarLopez-sf5ew]

Man , Joel is nothing like His dad , his dad was on fire for the Lord 🙏🏽

[@MemeingInTheMadness]

Any time I hear someone say, “I never went to seminary, but I think I still have something to offer as a pastor”, in my mind I simply swap out pastor for surgeon. Imagine if he said, “You know, I never studied medicine at university, but I still think I could do a great job of performing open heart surgery”. Isn’t being a shepherd of souls more important in its eternal impact than being a surgeon? So if the second statement sounds insane, why should we let Osteen, or anyone for that matter, get away with the first statement? Edit: Just to clarify, I’m NOT saying that it is mandatory to go to seminary in order to be a pastor. In fact, my own pastor didn’t go to seminary, but what he did do is ensure that he got an equivalent level of education, so that he has a comprehensive understanding of God’s Word. That is what’s non-negotiable. A pastor needs to have proper training, whether the place they get that training from calls itself a seminary or not.

[@susanthroop1279]

There are other ways to learn than going to cemetery. Looks like cemetery hasn't helped your one-dimensional thinking. Most people who attend cemetery struggle or lose their faith. Also you don't really study the bible. You study theories and philosophies of the bible.

[@CronoWiiUxblCrono]

What schooling did the apostles have? Outside of Paul, weren’t the teachers of that time in awe of the apostles knowing so much with so little schooling?

[@MemeingInTheMadness]

@@CronoWiiUxblCrono In the eyes of the world, the disciples may have appeared to be uneducated, but I would call spending 3 and a half years learning directly from Jesus a pretty phenomenal education, so I would say they had the best education ever! We, on the other hand, don’t have that luxury, so we must “Be diligent to present ourselves approved to God, as workers who do not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15). One very good way to do this is by attending a Christ-centred, Biblically faithful seminary. It isn’t mandatory for a pastor to attend seminary, but what is mandatory is that he receive a comprehensive education in how to properly understand, interpret, and teach the Bible. So, even if the education he receives is not from a place that calls itself a “seminary”, he should nevertheless ensure he has received an equivalent education.

[@CaroleImani]

The Bible says++ God uses the FOOLISH things of the world, to CONFOUND the wise😮... Not everybody can afford to go to cemetery or seminary😮😅

[@paulwong9819]

I got to know a brother who did not attend seminary, God used him in street ministry and eventually established a church where we received the full gosepel. We had lay preachers from the rank of the Brothren, their teaching from the word of God second to none.

[@305dave]

If you're living "your best life now" , hell is going to be a huge disappointment.

[@NotEasyButSimple]

I love these documentaries. You do a great job at them! 👏🏾

[@lewlewbelle7275]

Based on the theology of the Osteens and the Word of Faith movement/prosperity gospel….every single hospital around the world should be out of business.

[@susanthroop1279]

Nope....you're greasy grace is showing. Word of Faith is not the "prosperity gospel." The gospel is good news of many benefits...prosperity being one of them. Its your choice. Go ahead and remain poor and sick.

[@ozarkbagger1380]

You obviously haven’t listened to closely.

[@bradgriffith658]

@lewlewbelle7275 you should really pay attention to the individual miracles God is working in His believers lives, each and every minute of every single day! Believers still suffer, and it’s the strength we receive through the blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, that allows us to make it through it.

[@lewlewbelle7275]

@@bradgriffith658Oh no doubt I believe in miracles from God every single day, I’ve seen it. What I don’t believe is those that say someone doesn’t have enough faith or has given enough money to be healed. That my friend is called deception. Charlatans didn’t abound in just Jesus’ day, He warned us they will be among us throughout history. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Matthew 7:15-20

[@nukeboy4939]

Typical secular person thought process.🙄

[@risingoneagleswings1776]

Joyce Meyer ever since she was abused as a child by a man decided she would ignore the scriptural biblical mandate about women not preaching. She decided that the women will be in control over the man and that extends to God. She makes the rules not the Lord and she has made a TON of money in disobedience which keep her right there doing what the enemy wants.

[@lisajohnson521]

Joel admitted that he is just a motivational speaker and not a man of the Word. So we can put that argument to rest 😩

[@CaroleImani]

If he is just a motivational speaker, he shouldn't be in the pulpit.😮

[@CaroleImani]

He is in back of the pulpit leading people to hell with a false Jesus and a false Gospel😮

[@mppar3104]

Dig deep into Billy Graham ! Love your videos . Appreciate your research! 🙏

[@rubiesmilo7128]

Billy Graham was a 33 degree free mason. He said there is more than one way to heaven.

[@teresastrauch5004]

@@rubiesmilo7128 Billy Graham was not a Freemason1. Despite persistent rumors, he was not a member of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons in the United States1. The claim that he was an influential Freemason promoting Masonic ideals is not true2.

[@csouthland]

His son is the same.

[@auzzie4435]

@@rubiesmilo7128when did he say that I have watched a lot of his crusade and he never said any of that

[@CaroleImani]

​@@rubiesmilo7128I want to see the video where BILLY GRAHAM actually said that and not just some be dopey KZbinr looking for trouble 😮..lol

[@dylship]

Back when I was in early middle school, living agnostic, my mom had Joel on TV for the first time. I was enamored that there was a God who loved me. At the end, he said to find a good Bible based church - and I’ve never been the same. “It’s the goodness of God that leads to repentance.” Joel plants seeds in millions to join local churches and learn about God.

[@michaeltschoepe51]

Yea and a broken clock is also right twice a day.

[@tiyamikemwathunga8982]

God also uses sin sinlessly

[@susanthroop1279]

You got it right brother. God isn't the gnostic God of Calvinism...the demiurge. Preach it! and stand up to these fake Christian who think they are the elect ones who try to invade churches with "reformed theology." ie doctrine of demons.

[@christinamerklin2166]

If course! God will work in food and in BAD for his pupose

[@christinamerklin2166]

Oh my God I said God will work and good as well as bad that was AI, I watched it typed out correctly and that's what showed up after I hit send ugh!

[@kyledoss3782]

1:29:25 did I hear correctly? That someone’s anointing is going to do amazing damage to the kingdom of God?

[@shanks4391]

Yes. I replayed it 3x even with closed captions. Then came to the comments to see if anyone caught it

[@billvervelde8154]

I caught this also. A broken clock is right twice a day.

[@ObservationStation_77]

It’s not poverty VS prosperity- his dad compares apples to oranges

[@Locomedic1]

So true...he made it sound like someone somewhere was/is preaching poverty as a way of life....only monks and certain Roman catholic sects do that...only for themselves.

[@FullFrontalExposure]

Idk how I feel about a guy having to call himself an honest youth pastor 😂

[@prudentreality]

Felt similarly. Plus, it seemed he was talking one specific version of extreme poverty vs one specific version of material prosperity. It definitely smelled of ‘false dichotomy’ to me.

[@susanthroop1279]

Then what is it? You should try making a conclusion to your thesis. You left us hanging but then again low hanging fruit is easy to refute.

[@ObservationStation_77]

@@Locomedic1exactly!!!

[@mppar3104]

Zig Ziglar ! Someone in the comments mentioned him. He was a HUGE influencer on a lot of pastors . Would love for you to do a video of him as well . God bless you 😊

[@AlexP0216]

Can’t imagine how much time and work these types of video are. Great content.

[@Charlotte-c8s]

But we all should read n study God's word for ourselves where we won't be decieved

[@bringingupthepast2608]

Well done video for a better understanding of who Osteen is and what his message is. Not just Joel, but the whole Osteen machine.

[@susanthroop1279]

Are you reformed, Calvinist or Cessationist....if so, best take that big ole mote of false gospel and heresy out of your own eye before you seek to remove the splinter from your brothers.

[@Beechdrive1]

@@susanthroop1279seems like you have a few beams in your own eyes intent on keeping them there.

[@highway2heaven91]

First of all, this is a very well done documentary for anyone wanting to know more about Joel Osteen. It correctly mentions the influence of his father, John who is virtually unknown to non-Charismatic Christians. It also accurately describes how Joel wasn’t originally a pastor but started off as a technical producer. However, this video gets a lot of facts incorrect. First of all Kenneth E. Hagin’s biggest influence was Smith Wigglesworth, not E.W. Kenyon. He largely learned many of his teaching from Wigglesworth and a few other influences and didn’t even know about Kenyon until two years after his death when Hagin had received one of his books from a friend. He never studied under Kenyon, as mentioned in the video. He got a revelation about faith from God, not from New Age or Kenyon. Also, Kenyon never dabbled in New Age or was influenced by Quimby. Second, many of the preachers identified in this video as Word of Faith are not actually Word of Faith. Joel, Joyce Meyer, TD Jakes and Paula White are Charismatic but not Word of Faith. Most actual WoF preachers are largely unknown to many outside of the community. Word of Faith and “Prosperity Gospel” are not the same thing. The Prosperity message is about God wanting to bless you. The Faith message teaches principles about living by and using your Faith in God. They are similar messages but not identical.

[@susanthroop1279]

Thank you.....a voice of reason and truth!!!

[@Beechdrive1]

@@susanthroop1279Wigglesworth…ah yes the guy who healed a 2 month old old baby by throwing it against a wall and then kicking it. Sound doctrine for sure.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@Beechdrive1 Sounds like you've been brainwashed by folklore and hearsay and innuendo. You never get the end of the story. The baby was healed.

[@daniellenunez185]

I read Battlefield of the Mind. Also Your Best Life Now. I was a baby Christian. These books and their authors are so dangerous. For both believers and non believers.

[@JohnDoe003]

I don't think there's anything wrong with reading them. The danger is in believing that what it says is the gospel and that you don't actually need to know the Bible or adhere to it and Jesus Christ's will. Many people who know the prosperity gospel is false but still listen to sermons like Joel, not to believe what it preaches but to hear a positive message & to see what other people are being taught. It is very dangerous to watch any new age church preaching without context & truth. However, once you have that context & truth you can feel comfortable hearing a sermon & be able to dissect it with ease. It is only those without the truth that it's dangerous to. Once we give people a dose of the truth they can begin to heal from false teaching.

[@rubiesmilo7128]

Nepotism is rife in these churches. Fathers passing on their churches to their sons. Got to maintain those lifestyles.

[@steveothewisest]

Watch it before it gets taken down!!!

[@susanthroop1279]

It probably wont because the propaganda is sandwiched in the middle with the roots of EW Kenyon

[@kingcalv10]

Finally, been waiting for ages...nonetheless salute to you for the hard work

[@TheMeJustMe75]

Miracles and God's hand is still very active but you have to pay attention to see it. My son was born with a chromosome deletion so he didn't walk until he was 2 years old. He had other developmental issues and still does at 12 years old. Doctors told us that he would probably have a mind of a 4 or 5 year old. Like I said he's 12 and he gets himself up in the mornings, gets dressed, make sure be has all his stuff ready for school. He also has taught himself how to yo-yo and he can do very complex tricks. My wife and I never stopped praying for him along with our family and friends. He struggles in school but he can memorize things that interest him. He is very active in our church. He's a very compassionate kid with a big heart. He does realize he's different from the other kids and he'll ask us why. We tell him everyone struggles in life, everyone.

[@PengusKhan]

Joel Osteen was crucial to destroying my faith in Christ as a child. The only exposure to religion I really had was: 1. My mom making me go to sunday school so i wouldn't "end up like your sister" 2. My grandma, who despite appearing deeply religious only ever exposed me to Joel Osteen and nothing else in terms of religious content. The fact he never really preached any real gospel always bothered me and drove me away. Thankfully in my adult life I started to interact with better Christians than what I grew up around.

[@Charlotte-c8s]

We all should pray for Joel Osteen n pray that he's doing all this for the Lord n not himself I pray that his his heart n mind is in accord with God's will

[@davediaz1742]

Joel is a replica of his father when it comes to delivery

[@susanthroop1279]

Whats your beef about that?

[@franklinbross2602]

Joel's father taught him all he knows

[@CaroleImani]

John Osteen was one hundred percent better than Joel😅😮

[@susanthroop1279]

@@CaroleImani Yes his Father was a very good preacher but so is Joel.

[@boomer1049]

Joel and Joyce like John Maxwell are nothing but motivational speakers with a hint of Christian beliefs along with new age thinking mixed together! Period! And you can become very rich doing what he does there are suckers everywhere that pay for the seminar and buy the books and give into your so-called ministry!!!

[@gabrielromero6652]

Have you ever considered making a documentary on Jimmy Swaggart and Billy Graham? I have lots of family who love them both, but have also heard poor things about them. I think they’d be interesting.

[@debiwallace2131]

Billy Graham ended up being a Universalist. Anyone can enter the kingdom of heaven without hearing the gospel. Yikes!!

[@SoldierOftheKingofkings]

Billy Graham was a 33rd degree freemason taking orders from the Jesuits. The man wasn't a Christian. He taught heresy like "accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior will make Jesus come into your heart and you'll go to heaven." This is not in scripture and does nothing. There are millions of people who clearly don't read and obey the bible but believe they're going to heaven because they prayed a prayer of acceptance with Billy Graham. Nope. The only reason he was famous is his Jesuit handlers made him so because the heresy he taught they liked. Billy Graham is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur where he belongs. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Galatians 1 : 8 Blessed be the name of the Lord.

[@RevDanTheMan]

​@@SoldierOftheKingofkingswhat a deranged take you have!

[@SoldierOftheKingofkings]

Take? I stated facts about a wicked man. Everything I said can be confirmed with a quick internet search. As for saying he's in the fire where he belongs, God's judgments are righteous and true scripture says. The man chose to serve Rome and not God. So yes, he is exactly where he belongs in hell.

[@JohnDoe003]

@@debiwallace2131 While I don't know much about Billy Graham, or know the exact biblical theology or evidence of whom 100% does & doesn't get into heaven I think your comment begs a question. That question is: What happens to people (especially children) who never hear the gospel; Do they go to heaven or hell, and how do you know this?

[@tylerwilliams9910]

Love when you do these videos brother, thank you for not only being honest but also for your exercise of discernment.

[@megusta123s]

Bro is the definition of “fake it til you make it”

[@matteblak6158]

1:29:26 did she really say that the anointing on John Gray would do “amazing damage to the kingdom of God”!!??? What a Freudian slip that was

[@keepingitrealandtruthful.5081]

Yes she said that. If it was a slip, then why didn't her husband correct her? He was right next to her.

[@matteblak6158]

@@keepingitrealandtruthful.5081 okay, now I’m having flashbacks to Genesis 3!!

[@saratexas5181]

The Battlefield of the Mind MESSED ME UP. I know I’m not the only one.

[@susanthroop1279]

I think it was messed up before you read it. But if it did in fact mess you up, how so? Maybe subscribing to propaganda vs researching a matter for yourself.

[@saratexas5181]

@@susanthroop1279 I was a child when it was suggested and given to me. I read it because adults said that it would help me grow my faith. In what way was my mind messed up? What research would you like me to have done at 14 years old?

[@susanthroop1279]

@@saratexas5181 Your not 14 any longer and can now look back and analyze how it messed you up. You made an assertion that it was the cause. How do you know the book was the cause and not something else. If it was the cause as you say, what way did it mess you up?

[@saratexas5181]

@@susanthroop1279 I became obsessed with my thought patterns instead of focused on the life I was living. I became extremely focused on having perfect thoughts, perfect ideas, and perfect behavior. Many of the behaviors I was exhibiting were OCD like in nature and became superstitious. Thankfully I did not develop OCD. The ideas in the book are bastardized psychological theories and improperly applied psychotherapy techniques.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@saratexas5181 As with all teaching there are various testimonies. I watch a programs on TBN that features a promotion of Battlefield of the Mind and these are positive ones that state how much the book has helped them. I think its a stretch to claim that a book could cause behaviors that were OCD in nature. Perhaps it was your perception of the books thesis. Not saying it was but to call out a book that has so many testimonies of having a positive influence to be the source of a disorder is questionable. Give me an example of a "bastardized psychological theory"

[@TedRobinson-cc9od]

The most influential Baptist Motivational Speaker 🔊 was Zig Zigler who spoke in Corporation and in Churches. His influence was embraced by Word of Faith Churches and Charismatic Churches. This Theology is incorporated in their Theology.

[@kevinjohnson3521]

Worship of money

[@TheMeJustMe75]

My great grandparents and my grand parents both grew up poor. My maternal grandfather quit school in the 9th grade, got a job and worked up into his early 80's. He had his own business and he despised the Prosperity Gospel that preacher spewed. He always told me to get an education and get a job. He said if the job doesn't pay enough them you keep your current job but look for a better one. He believed that God helped the people who tried to help themselves.

[@JohnDoe003]

If you're a Christian and willing to have you, friends, family & church members to go to Lakewood to call out Joel we need to connect. It's time to manifest the truth to people in that church! We must fight for Christ!

[@saratexas5181]

Can we get a history on Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship? Was it a response to Masonry? Could we see any evidence of this organization affecting the business-oriented churches we see today?

[@matthewcraig8926]

Download and saved this video because it's gonna go bye-bye when Joel sees it

[@theframework]

I would love Michael Moore to be interviewed by Mike Winger, Steven Kozar or John Collins. Great work mate!

[@susanthroop1279]

Are you serious...propagandists interviewing propagandists. Steven Kozar is an immature clown.

[@Yeahno-ey3rb]

Osteen always put me on edge.

[@robertj5208]

Wow!!!’ Great work! …clips, narration, backstories!! Outstanding HYP!

[@susanthroop1279]

It could have been but then he threw in the propaganda about EW Kenyon in the middle.

[@guerralg63]

Watching this video makes me realize that since joel Osteen has been able to reason, he has been hearing false doctrine. I have concluded that he has never heard the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is why Joel Osteen can't reconcile when Jesus says, "In this life you there will be suffering," i.e., in living the Christian life, there is suffering for the truth of God's word.

[@annelisecroell757]

These videos are so freaking good. I know they must take long to make-thank you HYP!!!! I personally found myself liking Joel’s dad, and seeing how he had some good things going on

[@smokydogy]

haha I know im supposed to come away hating these guys but I legit just feel happier having watched this.

[@shanks4391]

1:29:23 the slip.. I replayed it 3x and even put on subtitles

[@TomBeck-gd8hr]

Gosh you're right, I skipped ahead to see what you meant. The enemy seems to like to admit what their doing beforehand.

[@nsalaza]

I have experienced many years of going through personal church hurt and frustrations in church while growing up in the "Bible belt". Now every time I hear a preacher with a Southern accent, my spidey senses immediately perk up and I begin getting suspicious.... God has never abandoned me and I still serve the Lord, but the "Church" has caused a lot of damage to a lot of people. Some people have even suffered irreparable damage. I have learned to put no faith or devotion into any "preacher" or "pastor" or "church". Faith is to be placed only in God. I can't wait to get out of the Bible belt.

[@mppar3104]

Thank you!! Would love to see more of these …. Bill Johnson & other pastors there, Steven Furtick, Rick Warren , Oral Robertson, well …. Unfortunately, there are too many to name ..

[@eniolaokunlaya142]

There is a video on Steven Furtick on the page

[@mppar3104]

@@eniolaokunlaya142 thx!

[@susanthroop1279]

Yes that will give you lots of fodder to slime and slander.

[@Revolver1701]

“Pitiful little blob.” Wow.

[@knicholas8768]

I thought this statement was kind of shocking. I’ve never heard a mother describe their special needs child in such terms.

[@mppar3104]

Yes! I got a horrible, disgusting, feeling , when she said that!!! Opposite of what a true God fearing, loving , Christ filled , mother would ever say !

[@saratexas5181]

Agree, I heard “someone who can’t work, can’t succeed, isn’t of value, useless”.

[@bsouth7944]

Larry King’s interview of Joel tells you everything you need to know about his lack of Biblical understanding or education. It’s pretty horrible. He is leading millions to destruction with his teachings.

[@Locomedic1]

Hurry up and save it before osteens minions complain to YT and want it taken down !

[@prudentreality]

Do you mean if we save it to our own playlists we can watch it even if it’s taken down?

[@Locomedic1]

@prudentreality save by using the download feature...you can store it on your computer or cloud.

[@prudentreality]

@@Locomedic1 that makes more sense. 🤪 Thanks for walking me through it!

[@justlanell]

Thank you for this! Another remarkable piece!!!

[@momsquared-lh4rm]

AMAZING DAMAGE TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD 1:29:20 time stamp

[@growingcarnations6488]

I saw that too...what a slip of the tongue 😵

[@torres12611]

😮 😮😮😮😮

[@saarapollonen8138]

Freudian slip 😅

[@saarapollonen8138]

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

[@perkinsas]

Well done! I always learn so much from your videos. This one, as many of them do, makes me sad for the millions of people who are missing out on hearing the gospel and are deceived.

[@carolynbohannon4602]

A little blob😢😢😢

[@knicholas8768]

Horrifying.

[@alexismarie456]

That comment really rubbed me wrong too!

[@blackpanther8716]

Really appreciate all the in-depth background work you did on this!

[@susanthroop1279]

He only did in depth background on the Osteen family; then he slammed the propaganda.

[@joereed4852]

Really well done. Thanks for all the research, this is an impressive project, and super informative.

[@toolegittoquit_001]

Been waiting for this one 🧐

[@AmyNWike]

The truth his congregation needs to hear.

[@j.reesebradley4771]

You do such an amazing job with these! I say “Olsteen” too lol.

[@WestminsterEffects]

Very well researched and presented. Stay strong when Osteen files that copyright claim.

[@calebfisher7345]

Love this! I would love to see videos like this about John MacArthur, Rick Warren, and the Guy from Bethel

[@lesliegoode8962]

Go to Fighting for the Faith or Messed Up Church

[@thedustiswipedoffofourfeet3244]

​@@lesliegoode8962 Leaving the message

[@josephsantiago4116]

Why John MacArthur? Unlike the others you mentioned, he is a man of God who preaches the true word of God

[@PastorCory]

​Lol, smh ​@@josephsantiago4116

[@calebfisher7345]

@@josephsantiago4116 i’m just curious about his influences and where he gets some of his more fundamentalist veiws from

[@emanuelistrate4511]

The amount of research and work that goes into making these videos is incredible! Well done HYP!!

[@edeancozzens3833]

How many of John's critics have been faithful to preach the gospel even on the streets? Have to admire that.

[@anthonycastillo7859]

I've always loved Joel Osteen, His ministry is definitely A mega church, thank you for this documentary it really shows his family has come a long way!!

[@TheRogerQueen]

“Pitiful little blob” Oh my goodness. 💔

[@dominicarndt3762]

Please do Vlad Savchuk

[@edeancozzens3833]

I often listened to John and Dottie at Kenneth Hagin's school and at other venues in Tulsa when I was a student there at ORU. Awesome and wonderful speakers. Full of God's spirit of love and faith.

[@shangaziciru]

It's the pastors that NOBODY attacks who worry me...Joel is a GRACE Minister and so the Pharisees and Jezebel spirits must come after him ...like the did the Apostle Paul and guess who else...JESUS, the Christ of God! Joel, keep going...lions don't turn when dogs bark.😊

[@edeancozzens3833]

Tommy Lee and Daisy Osborn were some of the most enthusiastic and zealous and most like Jesus Christians I've ever known. I love and respect them highly. Critics should grow by reading their books and listening to their messages.

[@bmcalderon]

Informative. 👍🏻 Just a small note to possibly add: the original plan was for his sister April’s husband to be appointed pastor after pastor John passed.

[@NoNameNumberTwo]

Keep it (more) in the family was probably part of the thinking there…

[@rescuehamster1734]

Calling your child a "pitiful little blob" is one of the most evil and dehumanizing thing I've ever heard.

[@cbowes28]

Absolutely love these!! Please keep them up! Maybe do Kevin Wallace, or Perry stone? Would definitely love those videos!

[@saarapollonen8138]

"Amazing damage" says the wife and Joel's face after that is so hilarious 😂 1:29:00

[@RicTheStreetPreacher]

At 56:30: she’s deciding who is going to preach? That’s the role of the elders.

[@angelicarmor0412]

😂 I knew if I checked the comments first I'd be able to assess the vibe & direction of the video! Ya know, whether it was pro JO or not . 😁 Sooooooo, thanks guys for all the info filled comments! 🙏🏼 Most importantly, God Bless. ☮️💟✝️

[@JamesGaoist]

thank you for this deepa western church history. super relevant in the US. Murica'

[@rickyrocketreed]

Has anyone ever heard Joel share his "testimony " of his conversion? I can only remember hearing him say that he had been a Christian all his life. Not possible.

[@vickiblack2425]

In my opinion, he is a "feel good" motivational speaker, not a preacher of true gospel.

[@JTLVideo]

The one thing I've noticed in this video is a lot of church building but not kingdom building. I don't know if the director discovered what works Osteen's father did in the communities they preached to but I notice in general when discussing preachers and their growth, it very rarely discusses how much of their work focuses on getting their congregations to be servants in and to society.

[@YolandaSanders-s2c]

Thank you so much for this conversation and content. It has blessed my 🧬 fe tremendously ❤

[@danielchiu655]

you should cover Gateway Church in DFW next

[@lashastafox3739]

Joel will be coming for you!

[@wrldvw1836]

Excellent documentary. Well researched and well presented ted

[@dmetts100]

This was extremely well done!!!!

[@terrywarnold]

This may just be an opinion of mine but, I consider Osteen a motivational speaker not a preacher/pastor. Yes, he says some good things but I'm not looking to him to help me grow spiritually. I have my own pastor and other ministers that I look to for that.

[@susanthroop1279]

So what he's a motivational. Are you saying sermons shouldn't motivate us. What a bunch of Pharisaical hypocrisy.

[@terrywarnold]

@@susanthroop1279 I wasn't saying that sermons shouldn't motivate you. My point is that the sermon should cause your to become better spiritually. His messages don't confront sin. He has even said it. He doesn't feel it's his job to preach sin. So, based on that, you basically leave church no different that when you came if there isn't anything that convicts you and causes you to want to be better ot change.

[@susanthroop1279]

@@terrywarnold Does every pastor have to "preach sin"....Where does it say that in the bible. That's your law or the law of your reformed tribe. Joel is a discipler. Preaching sin is what an Evangelist does. Joel is seeking to help his flock learn how to walk the Christian walk....how to deal with adversity...how to be an overcomer in life. Again, he's not an evangelist. He's a pastor shepherding his flock. Once we become Christians were no longer to be "sin conscious" Our sins are forgiven and don't exist. They've been removed from the East to the West. Sin is not a motivating force. Sin is condemnation and in Christ there is no condemnation. Our motivation to change now is our love and devotion to our saviour. He's already pleased with us.

[@shanks4391]

Right. No one disputes that he's a motivational speaker. The problem is that he calls his forum a "church ". And uses THE LORD'S NAME in vain. Therein lies the deception.. wearing a sheep's costume

[@susanthroop1279]

@@shanks4391 Are you serious. Give evidence that 1.He's a motivational speaker and not a preacher 2. That Lakewood is not a church 3. Where he used the Lord's name in vain You haven't proven any of the above and therefore have no basis for calling him a wolf in sheep's clothing. Even if all of what you accused him of were true, it still doesn't make him a wolf in sheeps clothing. You need a course in how to develop critical thinking skills. Your analysis is very shallow and simple.

[@BeatrixKidd088]

It's rather sad that he's not open to criticism, or rather open to good Godly correction. And it is certainly not a good characteristic to possess when your in leadership. He is for sure deluding a number of itchy-eared congregants, and unless he repents, will one day answer for it. LORD be merciful🙏

[@Spicedtee]

This video was a great presentation on who Joel Osteen is. Thank you!

[@michaelponziano2108]

Thank you brother, to Christ be the glory