The SECRET to Stoke's success, rivalry with Arsene Wenger & Rory's Delap's long throw | Tony Pulis

Former Bournemouth, Gillingham, Bristol City, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Stoke, West Brom, Crystal Palace, Middlesbrough & Sheffield Wednesday manager Tony Pulis is this weeks special guest on No Tippy Tappy Football.
Tony Pulis sits down alongside Sam Allardyce & Natalie Pike to discuss incredible career in football from the early days at Bournmouth & Gillingham to getting Stoke City into Europe.
The former Stoke manager talks about his time at the club, The importance of making the Britannia stadium a horrible place to play and unlocking Rory Delap's long throw.
Tony also chats about how football has changed throughout the years with better facilities, better nutrition, however the downside being VAR and how everything is now scrutinised.
They then talk run in's with Arsene Wenger, advice from Sir Alex Ferguson and spending time with Carlo Ancelotti in Madrid.
All of this and more in the latest episode of the No Tippy Tappy Football series, brought to you by William Hill.
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0:00 Intro with Tony Pulis & The manager community.
6:05 Why Tony Pulis is finished with management & Another ex-guest has a new job!
10:20 The biggest change in management over the years & Conversations with Sir Alex.
15:05 The importance of making the Stoke a horrible place to play & A new governing body?
20:10 Rory Delap’s long throw ins & Issues with VAR.
27:04 Mick McCarthy’s referee story, Run ins with Arsene Wenger & Arsenal rivalry.
33:00 Playing in Europe with Stoke, Eddie Howe has overachieved & Dropping players because of the weather?
38:00 Stoke’s current season, Football club owners & West Brom days.
43:00 Sporting directors, Spending time with Ancelotti & Robbie Mainoo.
49:00 Players picking up injuries & ‘Is it true?’ questions with Tony Pulis.
01:03:20 Quick Fire questions.

[@Bleech606]

Definitely a PL legend. Everyone HATED playing Stoke. That's an achievement and compliment. There has been no other team like them, they took it to the absolute extreme.

[@SuarezIsGod]

Buzzing for this one... Tony Pulis' Stoke City side were iconic.

[@NoTippyTappyFootball]

A real hard working team under Tony.

[@greyman6353]

His side ruffled the feathers of even the best sides with how physical and direct they were. Defending a corner or one of Rory Delap’s rocket throw ins against them must have felt like a bantamweight taking on a heavyweight with players like Robert Huth, Peter Crouch, Ryan Shawcross, and Kenwyn Jones.

[@mattyctill]

​​​@@NoTippyTappyFootballyes and we loved them for that. There was more to Stoke though. We had some good players and they adhered to a set of very specific instructions and a rigid game plan. Tony could make room for the right player though. Ricardo Fuller for example, he was our Cantona in may ways.

[@kippertrace5808]

​@mattyctill have you watched, ''under the cosh'' podcast? It's brilliant. Over 2hrs of Tony talking about his career.

[@robs_rc_cars]

The pulis era at stoke was phenomenal the way he did things and everything we achieved under him I’ll forever be grateful for.. the day we got promoted the fa cup final the Europa league.. the list goes on.. ❤😊

[@jimmoore6116]

I have been supporting Stoke since the year I was asked if I would like to go with my best mate's dad to go with his son to see Stoke play. I said yes and to see people Like Gordon Banks was wonderful at the start of the Waddington years. My mate went on to be part of the 1-0 to the Arenel gang and I have been with Stoke ever since. Pulis played the type of football that got us success at we all need to remember that yet Wado was so entertaining.

[@ParaplegicSloth]

Swing low, sweet chariot, coming for to carry me home!!!!!......... great memories from Tony's time at Stoke. People call him a dinosaur but in many ways top managers are still catching up to what he, and a few other 'dinosaurs' were doing 15-20 years ago. As a Stoke fan, the irony of Arsenal's current routine with the set piece coach on the touch line, and the importance they now place on set peices makes me chuckle. Playing center backs at full back is also considered to be a modern innovation of 'great' thinkers like Arteta. These days, when you have a trendy club with a foreign manager and better players doing it, it's considered genius. When teams like Stoke were doing that 15-20 years ago it was considered an abomonation. Something only unsophisticated, rugby loving pleb teams would sully themselves with. The ideas of these dinsosuars have kept medium sized clubs like Stoke and others in the prem for decades and clubs like Arsenal have become title contenders. Funny old game isnt it 😆

[@kippertrace5808]

Was it stoke v arsenal where a defender kicked the ball out for a corner, rather than kicking it out for a throw in?😅

[@ParaplegicSloth]

@@kippertrace5808 Yes, a few teams did it but from memory it was Wenger/Arsenal that started doing it first. In fact, most home games pretty much every team did it at one point. The pitch at the Brit was as norrow as the rules would allow, so Rory could throw bullets to pretty much the far side of the area from anywhere in the opponents half. It was less effective at away games but at our place it caused so much chaos 😂

[@Zackla245]

Both of these managers have amazing stories and great careers. But when they talk high levels tactics and criticise the intricate art of tactics, pressing, building from the back, setting traps, playing a high line, keeping possession as defensive tool. Point is...we would never win any CLs or develop anywhere near..or have any sort of success with these backwards tactics. Passion and desire is their philosophy. We SHOULD have all tiers to play out for the back, play inverted fullbacks and develop our tactical play and philosophy. Why do we think the Italians and the Spanish side dominated Europe in the 90s and 00s before the foreign influence helped us evolve. Point is...I respect there way of playing but stop being critical of the "Tippy happy" football....as would never have won anything without this evolution due to the foreign input. Having the best players only to try and play is such a fickle comment!

[@adamb578]

Totally agree..pulis played 4 centre backs across the back and nobody said it was genius..it worked a treat!

[@eaglemmoomin_418]

Both of these managers managed Palace and the football was generally bloody awful with some highlight matches. Then we compounded it by rehiring Roy after trying to change. The brand of football by all three had broad brushstrokes similarities and it just does not work anymore. You can see that with their last jobs and what Roy and Moyes had been doing this season. You give the ball away and you don't get it back for 10 minutes. By that time your defense has been ripped apart as the other lot slice through the team. Important to stabilise a club but even that now is harder now because most teams have several star players and can play properly.

[@Bleech606]

Tony's right about derbies. Merseyside derbies used to be so aggressive and bad tempered. You never see that hunger in derbies anymore. Everyone's respectful and having a nice chat after the games.

[@Lloydb723]

Still miss him at Stoke, yes his time had come and Hughes did well for a time, but look how far we've fallen in recent years.

[@ThisIsEngland1000]

Tony Pulis is Legendary.One of the top Managers in Stoke's history imo.

[@rooflessmofo]

It was an absolute riot under Pulis for the most part. When it went sour, it was sad. Absolutely fabulous memories from both of his stints.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Tony is a great man, Ask Olly about Tony at Bristol Rovers. Sam ive always liked him

[@bham0308]

What a brilliant show! Absolutely loved it!

[@callumbradke7194]

Should've asked if he's heard Carl Dickinson do an impersonation of him 😂

[@parmaman8551]

Delap's throw-ins were so good, that Wenger has gone to the lengths of trying to get throw-ins outlawed from the game.

[@rogerioceni2640]

Which was fair enough really. Throw ins exist as a quick way to restart the game after the ball goes out of play. They were never intended to be an attacking set piece and “hacking” football by using them as one is against the spirit of the game.

[@parmaman8551]

@@rogerioceni2640 It's against the spirit of the game to use throw-ins to your advantage. I've heard it all now.

[@garethmorgan7474]

Great podcast Nat and Sam, one of the best, enjoyed it with Tony seems really nice guy

[@markbotham8885]

brilliant that some great stories

[@NoTippyTappyFootball]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@pearseboylan6369]

The one I’ve been waiting for!

[@andykopgod]

Really enjoyed this 👏👏👏

[@alphacanine9641]

Very underrated manager success he had with Stoke.

[@MilkmanDarts]

Wish there was more teams like that stoke team

[@stacyburnett2809]

Pulis has never been effectively replaced at Stoke - as fans you have to be careful what you wish for

[@danyates1814]

Hughes turned stoke into a much better side for 3 seasons using pulis stalwarts like Whelan, Walters etc soon as the core left we turned to shit

[@davidpeacock5912]

Tony just one simple comment, thank you for being a MANAGER of Stoke City, We still appreciate your massive input. Happy retirement you have deserved it.

[@brandonhall5615]

Forget a rainy night in Stoke, how about a snowy afternoon in Salt Lake? If you can do it there, you can do it anywhere.

[@kevincrinks]

I was in Kent when Tony came to Gillingham. He brought in some excellent players and made a huge impact. Consistently good manager and did much to improve average players at many clubs

[@stokecasual9707]

T.P Stoke Ledge….subscribed

[@gavhowarth1350]

Tony eh! What a guy, great podcast

[@tobyward6094]

1 hour of pure common sense and good footy chat. So much better than the modern day managers

[@michaeldellorso889]

Premier League now is as good as it’s ever been.

[@chrismartin8373]

Fantastic chat! I mean that! But footy moves on

[@JC-ss7xy]

Legend at Gillingham

[@jonno209]

If any opponent praises you, you're doing it wrong. 👏

[@simonprodhan5050]

his sides were ok and obviously he kept them up with relative ease but they weren't a good footballing side, they weren't in the class of tony waddington's magnificent mid 70s side with alan hudson, terry conroy, jimmy greenhoff and geoff salmons, that was a brilliant team that would have given wenger's arsenal a run for their money, stoke should have been champions in 1975

[@neilcopeland5497]

True right 74 and 75 was the best with the back 5 defenders local lads 😍😍

[@michaeldellorso889]

The Hughes teams were also better and more enjoyable.

[@grumpyoldguy3964]

In my opinion they should use VAR like they do in cricket and tennis. Each team manager has 3 reviews or challenges and that's it, that way it would only be used for clear or obvious mistakes.

[@nffclacey]

Brilliant as alway any chance you could get Steve Cooper on the pod

[@albacan]

Another enjoyable yarn.

[@johngranahan6102]

I was wondering if you'd talk about Sam's time in the league of Ireland and managing outside of England as a young manager

[@alanssnackbardailyrelaxati8155]

What's with the dressing gown ?

[@burlesque809]

Pullis Fuller story: he came off the bench beat 3 and scored and then scored another Actual truth: he came off bench and scored 1 right at end beating 1 player Makes for a better story I guess 🤷‍♂️

[@tuumification]

Your comment, although factually correct, is as understated as Pulis' was overstated. It was a cracking goal and just what we needed at the time.

[@IkraMujahinkira]

SAF gave that advice to Tony? Noice. Britannia stadium is really a fortress when big teams came in.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Tranmere used to have a real longer thrower

[@tonnaboy10]

Sam likes to butt in and should be letting the guest finish their point. Keano was right about his ego.

[@millsy1861]

Two of our former managers at Selhurst Park, and loved both of them, played good honest hard football and it kept us up, top 6 sides feared those sides and we regularly beat them too, Big Sam got Benteke firing, and Tony had Chamakh playing superbly for us, happy days, both left due to the boards lack of ambition and walked out.....

[@eaglemmoomin_418]

both of them did less than a full season at Palace. They were firefighters. Roy was the one that really stabilised the club.

[@krishnam2297]

2 Palace legends!

[@MegaTimtheman]

I swear stoke had the long throw in the championship

[@gavbr210]

We did. We scored some goals from it. I particularly remember one at Norwich away where it was a winner. I think in a long career TP's memory is mostly right, but a little hazy! 😂

[@joshuascoins4200]

Great pod. But we had long throw in championship

[@sebgold5841]

You have to get Arsene Wenger on the show...

[@garyteeley9637]

Only need Moyes for the hatrick of anti football men.....😂😂😂😂

[@Ethtre1]

They are stuck in the past, sad really

[@michaeldellorso889]

Dyche

[@sharkymoon422]

After watching this, You know what, I think the European super league is a good idea, kick the money clubs to ESL ,because it means we can keep British football British, with maybe the 3 foreigners per team and 3 foreign managers rule for the new premiership, maybe we could get rangers and Celtic in the new premiership too! Long live managers like these 2 ❤️👊🏻👍🙏🏻

[@JJmanWRLD868]

wanting to bring british/white nationalist ideology and policy into british football isn't gonna fix it

[@deckyBWFC91]

I'm of similar belief...Ive actually stopped watching premiere league... Haven't for years

[@michaeldellorso889]

Why would you rather it stay British than be of a higher quality?

[@sharkymoon422]

@@michaeldellorso889 so let’s knock down Big Ben and build it to a better quality somewhere else..

[@michaeldellorso889]

@@sharkymoon422 horrible analogy, but to each their own

[@DRvids630]

Tony, we did score vs arsenal in the cup from a Rory throw.. just saying

[@Ozzy87]

Should of asked Pulis “is it true” about headbutting James Beattie naked in the shower? 😂😅

[@pheonixcollector6502]

Proper guys. Proper Managers. Great listen.

[@david83ryan]

Yep proper managers, just look at all those trophies they won!

[@Ethtre1]

Two old blokes stuck in the past

[@nigelhaines7900]

I think ian hutchinson had a long throw he played for chelsea i think?

[@SW-kr9fl]

Pulis got lucky he played the Arsenal team of 08 and not 98. The likes of Adams, Vieira, Bould, Keown and Bergkamp would destroy his Stoke team.

[@tonnaboy10]

Should have asked him if he and Mark Hughes are now on speaking terms

[@DRvids630]

Rory got sent off vs man city tone!

[@jamiebogle]

I know there’s no need to even bring this up , but with all the discussion of women being in the men’s game and if they are qualified enough to speak on it etc etc , it’s a wonder it doesn’t cross anyone’s mind including mine when listening to Natalie , she really does know her stuff and never looks out of her depth

[@johnnybyrne9999]

She really doesn't. Nearly every episode she doesn't know stuff like who played or managed for some clubs.

[@jameshowley595]

What a weird thing to lie about from Pulis on Wenger. Vieira was long gone from Arsenal (2005) before Stoke joined the PL or Delap joined had even joined Stoke (2006). Odd fella and a bang average manager who isn't fit to zip AW's coat.

[@chriswood8243]

Wasnt veira a coach at arsenal the time pulis is talking about.

[@chriswood8243]

Good to see the effect stoke has on you. I used to live watching arsenal come and bottling it every time

[@colingeddes2172]

Im not an arsenal fan, but wenger summed it up perfectly, when he said playing stoke was like playing against a rugby team!

[@colingeddes2172]

💯

[@adamb578]

Why you getting upset by t.p. 😂

[@scottlatham7907]

Big Sam, manage bury to league1 bro

[@callumbradke7194]

Sam "like ya mean" Allardyce

[@martinmccafferty5376]

They need Sam "you with me" Warnock on next week

[@martinmccafferty5376]

I got excited. I meant Neil

[@steveg4334]

Stoke were a dirty side, I went there in 71 to watch Arsenal, and the crowd above were constantly spitting down on us. I got sick of their disgusting behavior, left and went down the pub. Not sure what success they had, apart from breaking legs. Classless club, classless fans.

[@moluther2826]

Absolute dinosaurs the pair of them. Pulis ruined football when he was in the Prem.

[@rogerioceni2640]

This is mostly bullshit tbh. Wenger whinged a lot but justifiably so as I’ve never seen a side on the end of so many games where the opposition set out to kick lumps out of them and been given complete free reign to by refs, while Arsenal got punished for much lesser offences. Probably subconscious bias by the refs because they were the flash, soft foreigners usually up against good, honest British lads rather than deliberate cheating. The game where Man Utd beat them to end the unbeaten run was one of the most scandalous I’ve seen. United should have had at least two red cards and another half a dozen yellows (being very conservative here) yet somehow Arsenal had more players booked than United (3-2). And to make things worse, the game was decided by one of the most blatant dives you’ve ever seen.

[@robwood8331]

Can someone please give John Sitton a break... can you get him on tbe podcast?

[@ryanmcclary7034]

These guys are dinosaurs.. the game has passed them by

[@kippertrace5808]

20:31 if you want kids to be looked after, please, dont get the gov involved.

[@anthonydixon1282]

Great podcast, Pulis is a good manager we need him back in football

[@simontaylor8749]

Evans being concerned about a knee injury 🤢

[@robert_bah]

How many kids have had their mobility damaged due to these proponents of thuggery in the beautiful game. If Tony today looks at A Ramsey in the eye, what does he think?

[@danieledwards2941]

😭😭😭🔔

[@robwood8331]

Shut up ffs

[@Potters73]

Dry your eyes you tart 😂😂😂

[@dperson9212]

Brexit Sam and his "things aren't what they uses to be" nonsense. Times change, move on.

[@nigelhaines7900]

time has changed for the worse why move on

[@dperson9212]

@@nigelhaines7900 no offence but that's an incredibly insular outlook

[@nigelhaines7900]

@@dperson9212NOT really have lived in both times going back 20 or so years was a lot better trust me

[@dperson9212]

@@nigelhaines7900 I'm not a kid. I was around 20 years ago too.

[@nigelhaines7900]

@@dperson9212Did u see the 1966 world cup final then?

[@NffcR]

I'm sure Arsene Wenger really cares what Tony Pulis and his anti football thinks 😂

[@alexbelotti1603]

I remember this lad encouraged his Stoke team to “ break some arsenal legs” then Shawcross broke Aaron Ramsey in half and never apologised. Highlight of their stay in the Premiership 😵‍💫

[@danieledwards2941]

You clearly don’t have a clue about the incident or the aftermath over the years

[@jimmoore6116]

You have to wonder if the Coates Family had let Pules continue building Stoke City Up where they would be?

[@Zackla245]

Both of these managers have amazing stories and great careers. But when they talk high levels tactics and criticise the intricate art of tactics, pressing, building from the back, setting traps, playing a high line, keeping possession as defensive tool. Point is...we would never win any CLs or develop anywhere near..or have any sort of success with these backwards tactics. Passion and desire is their philosophy. We SHOULD have all tiers to play out for the back, play inverted fullbacks and develop our tactical play and philosophy. Why do we think the Italians and the Spanish side dominated Europe in the 90s and 00s before the foreign influence helped us evolve. Point is...I respect there way of playing but stop being critical of the "Tippy happy" football....as would never have won anything without this evolution due to the foreign input. Having the best players only to try and play is such a fickle comment!

[@julianparrett9005]

Allardyce and Pulis thankfully out of football.. Corrupt managers of the past .. surprised Harry wasn’t there!