The Secret Trick to White Balancing WITHOUT White

[@colorgradingcentral]

Ugh! The puzzling problem of trying to fix a shot without white is SOLVED finally!!!

[@GlenReed]

Thanks for the great color grading tips you continually bring. I have Cinema Grade and the Color Grading Academy membership. Also your testimony of how you got started has definitely given me encouragement during this season in life 🙂. Keep up the great work!

[@colorgradingcentral]

@@GlenReed thanks a lot Glen, that truly means a lot and if there is anything that I have been able to do to help you I consider myself honored!

[@ManWithACam-u4t]

Hi Denver, a few years ago I bought color finale, it was great, the problem was when FCPX updated color finale was no longer supported, I have recently bought davinci resolve so have both, are there any guarantees that if I buy cinema grade the same thing wont happen the next time Davinci or FCPX has an update? is there not a standalone version of cinema grade?

[@daisymonsalve1485]

I love when they provide very accurate information without going around and around when it relates to the digital age, photography, design.

[@CaseyFaris]

Great tip. Awesome for those tricky situations. Beautiful work as always dude!

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks Casey and congrats to passing 100K, you'll have to send me a pic of you with your KZbin play button 🙌🏽

[@Tommy-ws9ep]

That's absolutely fantastic! I started to practice this process, and it hit me that I should practice on images WITH white, so I could "check myself" after doing your trick. Practicing that way, I was able to get the feel for where my skin tones should be on the skin-tone line when I have to white balance with NO WHITE. It's making my white balancing chops better with your trick!!!! You're amazing!

[@colorgradingcentral]

Tommy that's a good idea to cross examine the two different methods and after all the skin tones are the most important subject so I'm glad that armed with these two methods you're going to optimal results 🙌🏽

[@DrWasim]

This is becoming my fav channel

[@barbaravalentinapadronchav143]

That is the beauty of audiovisual production, I have always wanted to be a film producer, what a great way to play with the tones, everything was perfect

[@ksilitonga]

You never know how precious this trick for me as a newbie on video editing. God bless you, bro......pls keep good video.....you are the man (from Indonesia)

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks so much!

[@hermask815]

Imagine you have a person with color vision deficiency and you have to teach him in a way that yields good results. This video works in that way as it uses technical means where you don’t have to rely on your perfect vision. I wish there where more of that kind as I’m deficient , too. Not color blind but Protanopia, red green problems.

[@DeanLamb]

I'm reading this comment with my colour blindness glasses on, and my premiere window open on the other half of my monitor hahaha.

[@hermask815]

@@DeanLamb your secret is safe with me :-)

[@meenamathew8355]

This is absolutely brilliant tutorial on colour grading. Greatly appreciated your efforts and I learnt more especially on what to do if there is no white in a scene for color correction. New information to me and thanks for sharing.

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks so much Meena!!

[@MOSESGRAPHICSSTUDIOS]

this channel is the best color grading Online school I never wasted my money to learn online on Color Grading Central

[@davidinjeski3985]

Thank you for sharing about white balancing without white. Your ideas working well

[@aneesbata878]

The Best channel to learn color grading.

[@jarlyhuablochotenorio9495]

the color models are the best I have seen and even more with that design is perfect that's what I call good pictures and good design technology at an advanced level. good video

[@jamesquartararojr1298]

Thanks for the video! I love the color in your video too. Looks great without looking preset

[@jmalmsten]

I've wondered for quite some time now. Since balancing skintone to the orange skin line is so powerful. Why have I yet to see a "skin balance-eye-drop" tool like the white balance that is in all color correction suites?

[@dleblanc]

I've tried to look this up over the last year or so. Why isn't this a thing??

[@viktorgelbek6140]

This is some of the best color grading tutorials on the internet (even though i cringe a bit every time you say something like, huorhuorhuoorrr) Keep it up!:)

[@colorgradingcentral]

LOL I'm glad the technical value is at least there if not for some entertainment 😜

[@张博学-m7c]

来自中国的视频工作者在KZbin第一次留言，我觉的你分享的这些色彩管理的技巧实用性很高很棒

[@dmitry_vyshniak]

Amazing trick! I always have issues with color corrections. So thank you again for your secrets

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome! Happy to help!

[@TimeSpaceTraveler01]

I'm from China. I'm glad to see such a wonderful teaching video. Thank you.

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thank you! 😃

[@judywangui2061]

Thank you so much for making time to make and post this video ,from this tutorial I learnt what to do when there is no white in a scene for color correction.

[@Nkn2705]

Very good information about colour correction and this video is very helpful for me thanks for sharing this amazing video.

[@AlexNejera]

this just blew my mind. it answered my problem with getting the correct TINT from my bmpcc6k since it always looks a bit green

[@AlexNejera]

and i had already learned how to use the scopes too and i still felt unsure

[@driftingtales1984]

@Color Grading Central Please please next one should be 'Book of Eli' look recreation.

[@diegogdias]

Shout out from Brazil. I've started editing recently using FCPX. Your videos are so good, practical, and straight to the point. Excellent job.

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks Diego!

[@constantinosschinas4503]

No, not the skintones again.... what if we don't have skintones? My empirical trick is move the temperature back and forth and find the sweetspot where most of colours appear saturated and concurrently (warm+cool). Then do the same with tint. You can be a tad more precise when consulting vectorscopes (if you can read them) with the same in mind: Highest saturation (and separation) in both warm and cool colours, at the same time.

[@stanarthur]

Great video. I discovered this myself a while back but you have confirmed that this correction is easiest to solve in Premiere Pro.

[@wright96d]

I wouldn't say that's necessarily the case. He showed three different techniques in three different NLEs, but you should be able to use the technique shown in Premiere in both Resolve and FCP.

[@AfoteyAnnum]

This channel is LIFE for a cinematographer like me!

[@davidramms]

This is a game changer for me - thank you

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome! Happy to help!

[@najibcasa2745]

I think this is a Very interesting and smart Secret Trick to White Balancing WITHOUT White ... !really thank you for this useful vid.

[@camblej5694]

Wow my big problems of trying to fix jast 1s so i love this video thanks

[@brittanyainsworth9307]

This information will be very useful to me, I did not know about this, I was actually oblivious to this topic, but this will advance my photography career very well, each video you upload is very useful, thanks brother

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome! Happy to help!

[@ramizzmaj6300]

The way u presented the video is really amazing, I had so much fun! Thanks for sharing

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome Ramiz! Glad you got a lot out of it!

[@paulkamau1806]

It's indeed a perfect trick to white balancing without white which actually works. Thanks for the video

[@MusaonYT]

Wow. I wish Lightroom had a skin tone scope like that.

[@ramymelhem]

This is genius. How would you line up the colors for really dark skin tones?

[@colorgradingcentral]

Same technique but darker skin tones tend to sit on and a little to the right of the I bar while caucasian skin tones are directly on the line.

[@ramymelhem]

@@colorgradingcentral thank you. How would you expose for those dark skin tones using Zebras? For Caucasian I set it to 70% Zebra. Would I need to go higher than 70% or lower for really dark skin tones?

[@MrPolmiquel]

Please, make a video explaining how to color grade for 4k videos for youtube. Chrome and firefox changes the colors of 4k videos so it's very difficult to color grade. Thanks !

[@adriankulesza210]

You arę the best color granding teacher which I ever had. Yours tips are so dope

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're very kind, thank you adusebejbe

[@AntonioGonzalez-cu5lt]

Excellent tutorial with tremendous informative content and real effective and efficient. Thank you for sharing this. I loved all the presentation of this content from beginning to end.

[@ramtinnazeryan]

I wish I saw this few months earlier. very nice tip which I learned about a month ago. Here is a question? what if we don't have neither a white plane nor skin tone in the footage?

[@FDFchannel1]

THxx how do u color the skin without affecting the overall background.?

[@picabocarecordingstudio9507]

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Ok. The principle is the same, but for us beginners, it would be great to show the same in Vegas.

[@colorgradingcentral]

Great suggestion!

[@picabocarecordingstudio9507]

@@colorgradingcentral Wooow! It would be wonderful. Thank you very much! :)

[@EricCheung]

Mind blown!! Awesome stuff dude

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks so much Eric!!

[@arjunmk8034]

Wow great tutorial .. thank you for sharing this trick 😊😊

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome! Happy to help!

[@isabelgarcia1175]

color correction esta muy genial, mil gracias por compartir este video, me encanto

[@colorgradingcentral]

Muchas gracias Isabel!

[@SnoobyMusic]

Would you please do another tutorial with a black skin or does it remain the same?

[@colorgradingcentral]

Skin tone tutorial coming next week!

[@Randor10]

Excellent. Another tool in my toolbox. Thanks!

[@dbelden]

Dumb question: does this also apply to non-caucasian skin tones? Or what adjustments would you need to make in those instances? Thanks!!!

[@colorgradingcentral]

For darker skin tones, the trace in the vectorscope will sit on and a little to the right of the I bar, as opposed to being directly on it with caucasian skin tones

[@dbelden]

@@colorgradingcentral Awesome, thank you Denver!

[@timsherohalf]

This video has been awesome! I have had this question forever and now it is answered, thank you! Do you have any tips for white balancing when there are no skin tones in the image as well as no whites?

[@pulaksarkar187]

Great video. I discovered this myself a while back but you have confirmed that this correction is easiest to solve in Premiere

[@colorgradingcentral]

Yeah it's pretty obvious and makes sense.

[@kimmaunglin9078]

the best wb tutorial ever

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks so much!!

[@homedepotindustrialfan936]

That third shot with the hands was lit by indirect sunlight. How much blue should be reintroduced in the highlights to account for naturally blue light coming from the diffused sky light in regards to what it would look like on the vectorscope?

[@kostinatrnava7779]

I have no idea that it could be done, awesome video presentation, it is easy to learn and follow.

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks, glad you liked it!

[@WORTHITORNOT]

Great tips

[@corybowcut8819]

Nice Denver! Good little tutorial!

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks Cory for giving it a watch and leaving a comment!

[@darkatmedia6095]

This is a very valuable tip!!! Thanks so much. I needed it big time.

[@grantballot2430]

Your tutorials are always great and I learn so much from you. I just wish you would build a Windows version of your software. Any chance this will happen?

[@colorgradingcentral]

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[@colorgradingcentral]

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[@colorgradingcentral]

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[@Mechrank]

Awesome presentation like always.. can you make a tutorial on color grading an 8-bit, 4.2.0 with neutral profile. 😃

[@Secondcropcreative]

Damn dude. Great video, straight to the point and concise

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks so much!!

[@romonamondal7990]

Really very good and very helpful video. Excellent tutorial with tremendous informative content and real effective and efficient. Thank you for sharing this. Thank you.

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome, thanks for the comment Romona!

[@Amitlensman]

Hello sir thanx for color grading plugin I install it but it's not working In adobe premiere pro I am done grading in your plugin but when I apply it in the timeline the clip become black

[@ErikWerlin]

Glad to know I've been using the secret trick without knowing it was a secret haha! Great job!

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks Erik!!

[@benigal5649]

Thank you for this very useful tip 🙏🏼

[@imamali1605]

Damn, i'm fckn love your content bro! Keep it up!!!

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks so much!!

[@danmavric2268]

“Noice” Denver, thanks again for sharing your wizardry! Luv your reference our (Aussie) Sharon Strezelecki, noice!

[@colorgradingcentral]

Haha you're welcome dm NOICE!

[@hcmd8768]

great tutorial but just thinking on the other hand what if its a blackman video isnt there any difference on skin tones settings ?If so then what should the black person line in in a vectorscope.thanks

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thank you! Yes darker skin tones tend to be on the I bar, but slightly further to the right than caucasian skin tones.

[@PhotoFeelSaikat]

Wow! This technique is great! Thanks for sharing!

[@visionarywatts]

Lovin' that hon hon hon at 2:19 😂

[@colorgradingcentral]

LOL that was a risk, but I went with it 😂

[@visionarywatts]

@@colorgradingcentral It was a nice silly/fun moment 🙏

[@marcmartinezfilms]

Awesome tutorial. I have definitely run into this problem on many occasion. Thank you Denver!

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome, I figure it is only matter of time until you encounter those tight shots that don't offer any kind of clues of how to grade them.

[@marcmartinezfilms]

Color Grading Central btw, I’m a huge fan of your work. Keep it up, you rock!

[@colorgradingcentral]

@@marcmartinezfilms thanks Marc, I shall sure try :)

[@danielakachi3666]

Awesome !! please is there a diff btw skin tone and skin color?

[@colorgradingcentral]

Same

[@jeanluisindriagolugo232]

Excellent color correction video it was just fun to enjoy this six minute video thanks for sharing

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome, thanks for the comment jean!

[@antoniok2k]

What a awensome tutorial, thanks for that! Vetorscope it's a nightmare for me who never use it before

[@colorgradingcentral]

Oh that's awesome Antonio! Now you know it can be really helpful and you'll get a lot more out of it.

[@lattesweden]

Maybe a little off topic question: is there a simple way to do this trick on still images as well?

[@angelosennido2903]

I know I'm one year late but to the future readers: Import the image in DaVinci Resolve and put it in the timeline, it will be treated as a still video and you can color correct it in DaVinci. DaVinci doesn't support raw images (as per my experience with Resolve 17). I use lightroom to correct exposure, tint and temp in raw images then I export it as jpeg/png then color correct it in DaVinci.

[@lattesweden]

@@angelosennido2903 Thanks!

[@rofixbob2788]

Excellent information Thank you for sharing your experience

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome Rofix!

[@duvanvilera8659]

excelente video me ayuda a elegir muy buenos colores

[@colorgradingcentral]

Muchas gracias!

[@RaviKumar-qh5pe]

Very useful must needed tutorial...

[@colorgradingcentral]

Happy to help, Ravi!

[@jonasgren1107]

Let's say that I've gotten the skin tones and white balance perfectly. Great; color correction is done. But what happens then when I get to the color grading part of the color edition. Won't that effect the vector scope, flesh line, and so on in an incorrect way? Or maybe that's not an issue, since it's grading and not correction? Sorry if this question is dumb. I'm new to this.

[@jonasgren1107]

Great video, by the way! Earned a new subscriber for sure!

[@colorgradingcentral]

@@jonasgren1107 Thanks for the sub! It its possible that your look will "mess up" your skin tones. In that case you can go back before the application of the look and tweak to fix them. It's a common issue that you need to be aware of when creating a look.

[@TracyCollins-threeCee]

Is there a way to do this with brown skin? Is there a “fleshline” for black and brown people?

[@Jimmy87268]

Tracy Collins It works with the same line for black and brown skin colors as well!

[@colorgradingcentral]

It's going to be the same, but darker skinned people's skin tones tend to sit a little further to the right of the fleshline/I-Bar than caucasian skin tones.

[@YourStoryStudios]

Very interesting to see how you used 3 different programs to achieve a good white balance! Subscribed!

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks for the sub and the kind words!!

[@avatlantida]

Interesting!. I've got a question. Why did you not apply Temp and Tint in FCPX as you also used it in PP?. Thanks you and stay safe

[@colorgradingcentral]

You could do that as well, but you'll get more control with the curves

[@prashannalewis5217]

Really great informative video. Learned something new today. Thank for your share .

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome, glad I could add something to your arsenal.

[@maiguelmoreno9027]

WHAT A GREAT VIDEO AND A VERY GOOD EXPLANATION, REALLY WORKED FOR ME, KEEP ON AS FRIEND

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks Maiguel that means a lot. Thanks for the comment.

[@DaveChapFilms]

This is a great tip! I’ll be sending this video out to some people.

[@colorgradingcentral]

Dude I would be indebted Dave, thanks for giving it a watch and more especially for sharing it 🙏🏼

[@razzakdeedaransari4526]

LOVED YOUR TRICK BUNDLE OF THANKS . LOVE FROM PAKISTAN

[@LawrenceChung]

Thank you for the brilliant video!

[@colorgradingcentral]

My pleasure!

[@komisakomako4812]

Thanks, but how to white balance if there are no skin tones to refer to? For example, an outdoor or a beach shot...

[@maunader]

Great video! Any tips on correcting white balance on 8 bit footage using DaVinci?

[@josefinasolorzano3784]

Wow brother interesting video, I didn't know all that !! I will put into practice everything I learned, thank you very much for sharing

[@colorgradingcentral]

You're welcome!

[@MPA188]

Another absolutely professional advice! Bravo! I have one question popping up right now. In your colorgrading seminar, your workflow is color correcting first and then do shotmatching. I'm wondering whether we should do shotmatching first for the entire scene because it is easier to match shots without further complicatedcolor correction nodes added on. Thanks

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks! But you have to apply a base correction to start to fix for exposure and white balance. Otherwise you'll be shot matching to an uncorrected image and it will cause further problems down the line.

[@MPA188]

@@colorgradingcentral Yeah, they are the bad match, but they are consistent, and then we start fixing exposure and balance by selecting the hero shot and copy to the rest in the scene. So what problem will be caused down the pipeline in this workflow? Cheers

[@pelosmeusolhos938]

Very nice! Thanks!

[@RyanPex]

tq for this tutorial bro....btw, day 4 night color grading tutorial plizzzz 😅🙏

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@onthedrone_]

Exelente!!saludos desde Argentina

[@googlyzer547]

@2.04 how could you do this with an adjustment layer, its a little hard to see it in the scopes as you see the clip below the adjustment layers skin tone as well in the graph? Could you maybe white balance first on the clip itself and then throw an adjustment layer and apply lumetri color grading on that ?

[@pelosmeusolhos938]

just awesome!!! congrats!!

[@Seanbad2]

Dude....so good! 😁👍

[@colorgradingcentral]

Thanks so much!

[@hermionepardo5037]

exevelente video I really liked how you explain everything and you taught me to be able to make the white balance, garcias friend

[@HanaGoku]

When you are using temperature and tint slider, how do you decide how much to use which one pls? You could keep on getting closer to flesh line by pulling more temperature but you switched to tint at certain point. Thanks

[@colorgradingcentral]

Tint is going to correct along the green to magenta spectrum. For some images this will need to be adjusted so you don't end up with overly magenta skin tones.

[@HanaGoku]

Color Grading Central thanks for the response. I like the fact that you mask the entire face of the talent, not a small part of it, cuz the light varies across the face. Cheers

[@polaroidsky]

Great vid! But one thing I don't understand: tint is used primarily to get the skin tone on the flesh line as it has the most effect on the vectorscope peaks drifting clockwise/counterclockwise. Color temperature, on the other hand, mostly extends or contracts the vectorscopes. So how can I know how warm or cool to make it if the tint has already been adjusted to make the peak fall on the flesh line?

[@colorgradingcentral]

That’s a fair question, Karen. Certain skin tone complexions and ethnicities will extend out in different amplitudes. So you can either familiarize yourself with that or do what I would do and judge by eye on a calibrated monitor.

[@polaroidsky]

@@colorgradingcentral Cool! Thanks man. I'll take a look at those amplitudes!

[@xywaxywa9217]

Got that mask at 1:52, but rest of the screen is not black (outside mask) :/ How to do this?

[@casroy777]

Great 👍, what if there is no no skin on the scene 🤔

[@OurLifeInAfrica]

How do you do it without something white and without skin tones? We have been struggling with wildlife to get the perfect white balance