The Secret Tunnels of Camden Junctions | Hidden London Hangouts (S08E07)

[@nickyhaugh2390]

This is absolutely compelling to watch as it is complex for the Northern Line.

[@Bobrogers99]

At complex junctions like this, I marvel that the points are always properly set to bring the train onto the proper line.

[@Lisbonized]

Hats of to the signallers at Service Control for that one!

[@jess.hawkins]

Enamel signs at 6:47 -signs like these are also present on the Victoria/Piccadilly line connection at Finsbury Park

[@ianmcclavin]

I used to visit Camden Town more frequently when I was younger, as I had relatives in the area then. It used to fascinate me that they lived at what is still essentially the hub of the Northern Line, with the two Central Area branches coming together, and then diverging off again!!

[@ceanothus_bluemoon]

Very late to this but had major techy troubles since just before xmas. What a cracking episode to round of another super year of discoveries. Thank you for taking all of us along with you on such a privileged walk. Loved seeing the complexity of the junctions, and the lovely tiles etc this time from the trackbed. Hope you all had a lovely Christmas...happy New Year! Here's to more in 2024 :)

[@lescalverley8335]

Terrific video, answers a lot of questions for tube enthusiasts. I drove the old ‘38’s through that junction many times during the 60’s.

[@Almacni]

Love every episode. Planning trip to London one day and started watching every underground train clip I could find and totally hooked on watching more. Looking for more abandoned platforms that know one can get to...love to see the full platforms that are still around and in the dark. I have ridden up front in the trains (KZbin style) been a passenger (KZbin) and have ridden the Aussie underground. Love the history and love the tiles and the engineering that has gone into building a network that moves millions of people around London everyday. By the way I live on a small island in the middle of the South Pacific and we do not have trains or public transport...simply do not need it...I Love trains, Planes and Engineering marvels.

[@PeterDiehl-e3z]

The layout of the Camden Junction has been designed to offer minimum traffic disruption at maximum capacity: other than in simpler schemes, each train is able to pass it without interfering with any other trains, unless unavoidable (because they have the same destination). When looking at the track display in the signal box at 17:58 (with north on the right side), it comes as a surprise that it is not symmetric. Closer inspection reveals that the core of the northbound junction (top half of the display) mostly is a vertical flip of the southbound junction, rather than a 180°-rotated version of it (as found in comparable main line junctions, in which case it could have been symmetrical). The situation is complicated by the fact that, other than shown in the 2D-display, the northbound junction is actually located on top of the southbound one, and not next to it. The situation is even further complicated by the fact that, south of the junction, other than shown in the 2D-display, both tunnels of the Charing Cross branch are located on top of (and not next to) those of the Bank branch. The designers of the junction found an elegant solution to all these constraints in a very limited space under the street, a solution that still stands almost 100 years later.

[@johnjephcote7636]

Yes, I have the 1923 bound Railway Magazines and the junction and tunnels are explained in great detail there. with the signalling.

[@alexgrundon2346]

I’d love to see those pages sometime

[@taloire43]

Many thanks for a fascinating insight into the complexities of the Underground. I would like to say that it brought back memories of my only track walk except that as I was only six months old and mother had to do the walking. The train broke down and passengers were directed through the cars, down a set of steps to the track from the drivers cab and then along to the next station. Mother moaned about it for years. I should add that this event took place in about November 1943 when things were different.

[@alexgrundon2346]

What a superb story. I can imagine back then it was perhaps less clean than it is now….is it’s pretty grubby!

[@fredflintstoner596]

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

[@stephenjeffrey3815]

Thanks all for another great episode. I loved learning about Camden Junction, I never knew that the North and South bound lines were on top of each other, and I loved Laura's singing too ❤ 😂😂😂

[@djtraxxehv1058]

Indeed a great example of a Christmas present. Happy Christmas and a happy new year to all of you!

[@MrAsBBB]

Merry Christmas to all of you . Nice to see lots more Alex’s on the Tube . Happy New Year from Alex. Xxx

[@thomascook578]

Great presentation, very interesting, we had flanges, tiles, wet wipes and scabies.

[@alexgrundon2346]

By anyone’s standards that’s an eventful Saturday night x

[@thomascook578]

@@alexgrundon2346 or a normal Saturday night 😂

[@dm1701]

The Kennington Loop has six crossovers... Kennington Station looks very forbidding as a place. Nothing like the Wood Lane Loop on the Central Line though... The Central Line makes tons of racket when the train goes westbound to White City...

[@dm1701]

I should also point the junctions at North Acton and Leytonstone on the Central Line are known to get busy on a daily basis even those those points are open air...

[@WeronikaSzulc-bd7wc]

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[@timothyp8947]

Loved this - the super complexity of Camden Town junctions and its age never ceases to amaze. Many thanks, Team!

[@pauloconnor2980]

Those enamel signs above the tunnel portals need a good clean.

[@markhjones956]

One of the best so far. Thank you for the special access to these junctions. Have a great Christmas, team!!

[@paulgiffen6836]

Fantastic, MERRY CHRISTMAS TEAM, wow that track work is amazing did not expect there to be a crane on the roof, can not wait for the 100 year celebrations next year, THANK YOU ❤🎄🎄🤗

[@rqstaffan]

Fun to see directions to Mornington Crescent

[@1954alister]

What a great episode. Amazing to see such complicated junction and how it works. Thanks so much

[@markellis6413]

Northern Line is the gift that keeps on giving - every Christmas it seems to be a treat.. Question, how does the removed track get from here to Acton works?

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

On a train via the ahem "secret" inter-line links. Carto Metro has a map. Just make sure you've got a cuppa before you dive in!

[@alexgrundon2346]

We have a cunning plan to explore one of those connections too!

[@ianlaw7968]

Another great video just wanna say Happy xmas to you all & Happy 2024

[@peterpetrou2466]

Simply fantastic. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to the team

[@watchmakersp9935]

Amazing video...so captivating, mysterious and unique...Merry xmas London hangouts team!!!!

[@tardismole]

This is a drool frest! This has been my favourite part of the undeground ever since I first saw a drawing of it in the 1980s. What a Christmas present, indeed. Loved it. Have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year.

[@elbobbo9457]

Happy Xmas gang. I love the normally hidden engineering and behind the scenes reveals. Cheers, Rob

[@michaelmiller641]

Merry Christmas to you lot, too. Thanks for that fantastic tour!

[@neilfoster814]

Love Siddy, she's adorable! (and smart too)

[@groovydonkey]

That was so fascinating as I use to live in Camden and used both brances both ways but it was always a bit confusing working out for a while. I use to work London Transport over 30 years ago and during training we had to put a bar over both tracks to cut the power off but during training our trainer told us the small section in the training room was live and we had to get it right. We soon found out that was not true but opens your eyes to what you have to learn, no matter what your actual job was.

[@alexgrundon2346]

The short circuit device….😉

[@Lisbonized]

The machine that reproduced what arcing and fusing on a train would look and sound like was something else. It scared the willies out of new recruits and that was a controlled environment. Imagine having to deal with that on a live railway!

[@groovydonkey]

@@Lisbonized It made me realise what training and knowledge was needed to be part of the underground staff. I do appreciate it so much more now having that insight and wish I hadn't left

[@martynthomas7486]

Here are some tunnels- some underground tunnels, deserted and ready to explore. But these tunnels can hide a secret inside- can you guess what is in them today? (Paraphrasing Brian Cant there!) Another eagerly anticiptated episode awaits- I'm sure it's going to be a Christmas cracker!

[@ForTheBirbs]

That was awesome. Loved it. Merry Christmas to all!

[@TransportNut89]

Love this one a lot! Huge tube geek too! Merry Christmas to everyone at the London Transport Museum and the hidden London Hangouts team

[@helenhickman8449]

Thank you thank you for another wonderful episode. I marvelled in the complexity of Camden Junctions and I think visiting the familiar friend of South Ken. Merry Christmas & a happy new year to you all. Here’s to done more exploring in 2024.

[@NapierNimbus]

Marvellous, fascinating, what an absolute treat.

[@garycross228]

Merry Christmas Siddy, Laura, Chris And Alex and happy new year to you and your families. Looking forward to more of your brilliant videos in the new year.

[@siobhan.lewis.2968]

Eagerly awaiting the next edition of "Alex's Adventures in Wonderland".

[@alexgrundon2346]

Sounds like my life in a book….

[@ajgarnettscherer]

@@alexgrundon2346 what a book! #imlateimlate

[@Lisbonized]

Looking forward to a Mad Hangouts Tea Party! 😂

[@ajgarnettscherer]

we can certainly bring the tea ☕️ #sipsip

[@WeronikaSzulc-bd7wc]

Camden Junctions

[@Shalott63]

This is a really exciting episode, and a great Christmas present for all us peeps. I've always wondered what it actually looks like to go through that junction area. Many thanks, Team, and merry Christmas to everyone!

[@alexgrundon2346]

😘

[@neilmckenna5991]

Another fascinating late night underground adventure for and us. Thank you as ever for sharing and Merry Christmas to everybody 🌲🌲🌲

[@djdubls]

Merry Christmas guys!

[@ianfleming4356]

Much appreciated for a really informative episode

[@paulburton9386]

Looking forward to watching this and counting Alex's usual double entendres and references to Round the Horne.

[@piccadillyline9765]

Camden junction. Fun place for things to go wrong. We could not use the SPT's to pass a signal at danger because they were all connected together. So If one driver was speaking to control and you picked up another SPT you would also hear the conversation. You mentioned Euston loop. Can you do a video on Euston and Kings Cross loop?

[@alexgrundon2346]

We’d love to actually and it’s on our dream destination list with the nice people at TFL. Here’s hoping. There’s also somewhere else which is disused since the 60s and still there which we’re itching to show you. Stay tuned

[@Lisbonized]

@@alexgrundon2346Kings Cross loop is a must!

[@NoOne-fb7ru]

I really enjoyed that. I've had a big interest in all these hidden stations and deep level tunnels, i pass South kentish town all the time at work wondering what it looks like down there, also that junction area was very interesting too. Id love to tag along one day whenever the team goes back down there!! Merry Christmas and Happy New year everyone.

[@alexgrundon2346]

Check out our specific episode on South Kentish Town too

[@MrSteveFurness-Lappin]

Many thanks for wonderful content guys, have a great Christmas and new year. I look forward to seeing more next year x

[@SaturnCanuck]

That was amazing. One of your best yet. Just so you know when you mention the station names and routes I follow along with my 1968 Tube Map, that I got on my first visit to London in 1968! As you would say Happy Christmas!

[@doma9584]

@45:00 why doesnt the power sign say off like the other one did?

[@pauldavis4072]

Who knew you could have so much fun exploring filthy tunnels! Excellent episode again. I like the contrast between the calm and orderly exploration of South Kentish Town station from track level and the high anxiety of the SKT episode where you descended from street level. Believe there's a Famous Five story about strange goings on in a railway tunnel where they also have the wind up!

[@alexgrundon2346]

The juxtaposition was weird. Second visit was like seeing an old friend. I have to say tho the silence at night in the tunnels still unnerves me

[@Shalott63]

@@alexgrundon2346 I should think it would be even more unnerving if you could hear a train coming! 😆

[@alexgrundon2346]

Cannonball Run on the High Barnet branch

[@pauldavis4072]

Definitely not after watching the horror movie Night of the Demon, filmed on the Watford to St Albans branch line!

[@isashax]

What a fab episode! I keep looking at the "spaghetti" poster and still can't understand well how these tunnels work, so this video is just amazingly helpful. Merry Christmas you all!

[@carlwilson1772]

That was brilliant. I have old encyclopedias at home that belonged to my Grandfather. They are from the 30s and depict Camden Junction (quite new then) as a marvel of the age. So great to see you do this episode. Merry Christmas to you all and thanks for the great content.

[@JaapFilius]

Wonderful episode. Thank you.

[@hcassells66]

Yes at angel you really feel the train dip down and you feel it in your stomach lol

[@raphaelnikolaus0486]

The sign at 39:00 denotes the gauge as 1432 mm, however standard gauge (and I thought the LU's too) is 1435 mm. How come the three millimetre difference/discrepancy?

[@Mr1234karlos]

i'll keep it Short.. JUST WOW !!! 🙂

[@andykopgod]

Laura singing, the absolute highlight for me 🤗❤️😄👏👏🤗

[@Lisbonized]

She really has an amazing voice!

[@NJPurling]

The track diagramme in the shot of the Camden signal box looks like a a childs attempt at tying shoelaces. The chance to linger at Sth Kentish Town actually on the track!! The ghost of the roundel has to be the best 'find'. I wondered if there might be any signage still remaining. I saw the team's original visit via a narrow passage at the back of the station building. All the time it was pelting with rain & windy too.

[@WeronikaSzulc-bd7wc]

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[@jacksugden8190]

Some engineering that’s beyond my comprehension

[@buffplums]

I really wish someone would do a similar thing on the Merseyrail system, particularly the Mersey tunnel section between Hamilton Square and Liverpool James Street. So much interesting tunnels, ventilation, drainage and abandoned headings… but the authorities up there are very anal about allowing publicity.

[@jacksugden8190]

Looking forward to this one, didn’t Alex mention that Waterloo was the next tour…?.

[@alexgrundon2346]

Next one for us…not the next one for you! We had to adjust our plans to give you this bumper edition in time for Christmas

[@jacksugden8190]

@@alexgrundon2346Cheers Alex

[@chrisblay]

Very interesting, as ever.

[@WayneKline]

Hello everyone, another great video, well done. Just quickly, can you explain what happened to South Kentish Town. Very obviously now closed. Thank you and Happy New Year, best wishes for 2024.

[@alexgrundon2346]

Yup - opened when the CCEHR opened in 1907 but wasn’t well used. So in 1924 it shut for good. Turned into a WW2 shelter but then closed since and is now just a vent shaft for the northern line. We’ve done an episode all about it and it’s one of my favs. Just search KZbin for “hangout south Kentish” and it pops up

[@WayneKline]

@@alexgrundon2346 Hello Alex, sincerely appreciate the response. Will take a look at that video tomorrow, 21:40 here now! 😅

[@WayneKline]

Just watched it Alex, Liked & Commented. Absolutely marvellous station and so sad to see it in the state it is in. I guess they could never justify the re-opening.@@alexgrundon2346

[@Why24244]

I wonder at south Kentish town if there are remains of the original tile name on the back wall of the platform it would be nice to clean all those tiles to see

[@alexgrundon2346]

Yes - it says CASTLE ROAD - the original station name but it has been obliterated with paint as standard.

[@Blade_Daddy]

Love you guys!

[@suecj8770]

Looking forward to it

[@garyhall9537]

Absolutely brilliant show, well done guys. I must admit to being a London Underground geek 😂best show up to now. I have a burning question for you, how often do they have to change the tracks/points at this junction. It must be a very long and complex job to undertake. Well done and keep up the good work. Is there any chance of this being opened up to the public, would love to get down there. You lucky bunch of peeps you.😂

[@alexgrundon2346]

Every sinew of my being would love to take a group of people round there but the health and safety issues would prevent it. I feel very honoured to be able to do this on your behalf - and we’re always trying to think of ways to bring the experience to you as vividly as possible. Keep an eye out for series 9 of the Hangouts too

[@Lisbonized]

Fantastic episode but then again I am slightly biased here! 😂

[@stevenmccolm1531]

Great video, just a quick question what's better wooden sleepers or concrete sleepers?

[@alexgrundon2346]

Bless you. I think for making raised beds in your garden…wooden 😉

[@tandooribox]

well done

[@efaber3565]

Interesting that you are not wearing reflective leg bands being in the tunnel. Here at the Toronto Transit System it is one of the PPE requirements.

[@hissingsid3907]

Hearing you say that drivers can be rerouted at any time, how often does this happen and would the driver presumably announce the route change so that people could then change at say Euston?

[@Lisbonized]

The change of route could actually occur before the junction. It’s possible a shut down on either branch might cause a last minute diversion.

[@mrbma]

Sorry, very confused. If you were Southbound, why is there a sign above the track for Highgate ???

[@alexgrundon2346]

I know. There is logic to the naming but it’s historical from when the junction was built and the two separate lines were joined to make the Northern line as we now know it. We’ve got a lot of footage we couldn’t squeeze in so we are thinking of doing a driver’s eye special, explaining what you see and the history as we go. I’ll make sure we give you the full detail when we make that episode

[@mrbma]

Lovely reply. Thanks Alex my friend. Look forward to your future tube exploits !!!

[@Lisbonized]

Historically the Hampstead railway got there first and the CSL terminated at Euston so there was no concept of a Charing Cross branch. The enamel signs are for staff on foot. They might be walking Northbound on a Southbound tunnel or vice versa so drivers don’t usually see the signs. Only if the tunnel lights are on or a lovely member of Hidden London is filming! When the CSL was finally joined, more enamel signs were added. City or Hampstead, referring to the original railway companies. The “Charing Cross” branch was coined later on. Hope that makes sense.

[@trevorjenkins3934]

I've never seen any significant water in any tunnel. Yet lots of water is pumped from the tube, is the drainage underneath the ballast, so is the area between the top of the ballast and the bottom of the tunnel the drainage area?

[@Grid56]

Not just drainage. I remember one tv episode of hidden underground where Siddy showed Tim Dunn a culvert at the side of the rails carrying the remnants of London's Fleet river.

[@Profimaulwurf48]

A few years ago, an underground railway became an above-ground railway. Which line was that? When was that? And how many years did the renovation take? And What is now with the old underground tunnels

[@Lisbonized]

Are you talking about the Northern City line Drayton Park to Finsbury Park. If so check out the Hidden Hangouts “Lost Tunnels of Finsbury Park” episode.

[@Profimaulwurf48]

@@Lisbonized don't know. But I guess it was a line in the London east?

[@Lisbonized]

@@Profimaulwurf48 no idea then. Unless you’re talking about the East London Line being taken over by the new London Overground network. That sounds more like it.

[@obs2001]

That's acc cool

[@ghhhhhhgh]

it s very complicated tunnel of the northern line, this junction

[@richardmellish2371]

Do I see a trailing crossover that has been put in since the platforms at South Kentish Town were removed?

[@alexgrundon2346]

There’s no crossover between Kentish and Camden from memory. There’s actually quite gradient between the north and south between Camden and South Kentish and by the time it gets to Kentish Town the lines are on top of each other due to way leave.

[@richardmellish2371]

​@@alexgrundon2346 Looking at it again (at 41:30 in the video) I see what looks like a turnout on the right which may the remains of a trailing crossover, now no longer connected to the northbound track.

[@aetcranium]

@@richardmellish2371 They’re spares, probably for Camden Town. Projects are required to provide lineside spares because of the bespoke nature of some of the track components.

[@Lisbonized]

In case an emergency rerail is needed during engineering hours, spare rails are always available in between the Negative rail and one of the running rails. But never both as it would make track walks nearly impossible. Abandoned stations have a lot more room for spare equipment. A spare set of points being left here for Camden Town makes a lot of sense as it can be carted down on an engineering train if needed. Hence the crane already in situ at Camden.

[@richardmellish2371]

@@Lisbonized I'm accustomed to seeing spare bits of track lying around, either awaiting installation or left over after replacement; but at that point in the video the pointwork does seem to be connected to the right-hand running track.

[@silviyamutafova6366]

Check on Bounds Green Station!

[@alexgrundon2346]

Tell me what I should look out for

[@markskeels8132]

I'd love to walk the tube at night

[@brunosdaddogwalker9529]

It's shame South kentish Town didn't stay open till the 60's it would made good alternative to the tourist hotspot of Camden Town.

[@markcf83]

......as well as being useful for Kentish Town station.....

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[@buffplums]

This is fascinating but it’s a bit stressful with everyone talking at once

[@alexgrundon2346]

Relax. Have a Baileys. Turn the sound down. And take in the view

[@buffplums]

@@alexgrundon2346 make it a Jack Daniels and you are on 😂😂😂 Merry Christmas

[@alexgrundon2346]

Nice plums, by the way…. 😉

[@buffplums]

@@alexgrundon2346 hahah only the best buffed up plums

[@ahuman9143]

When are we gonna see a little tour of the eastern central line stations (Wanstead Redbridge and Gants Hill) as although they haven’t majorly changed, there are some cool things to be seen down there

[@martynthomas7486]

I asked about this in a previous video as it would be good to hear about the tunnels that were used for munitions production by Plessey between 1942 and 1945 between Wanstead and Gants Hill and Alex basically said it's on their 'to do' list.

[@Lisbonized]

It is very much doable. There’s quite a bit to see too!

[@martinchapman3204]

Alex Garnett is he the Son of Chris Garnett ex chief of GNER ???

[@ajgarnettscherer]

No he certainly isn’t a relative but thanks for asking :)

[@Lisbonized]

Alf Garnett?

[@ajgarnettscherer]

@@Lisbonized 😂

[@mark5439]

If you are doing a documentary, maybe you should get people who know what they are talking about. Passenger trains can't use the kings Cross loop and the guy bizarrely didn't understand the purpose of the 6 car marker. The presenter was actually more accurate

[@alexgrundon2346]

The guest was talking about the routing a driver may be asked to take…not necessarily carrying passengers. As one of the hosts there was no point where I assumed the same as you. The crew we took with us are all experts in their roles, are full-time staff and are helping us as a free favour. But thanks for watching all the same.

[@mark5439]

@@alexgrundon2346 LOL

[@Lisbonized]

The Kings Cross Loop is used to transfer “engineering” trains to and from the Piccadilly line. It can, as Alex GS pointed out, be used to reverse “passenger” trains during traffic hours with passengers detrained before leaving Euston on the Southbound city platform. It is technically part of the Piccadilly line and so a “slot” is given by the Piccadilly line control centre for this move. The Piccadilly line doesn’t need to use the loop to reverse as it can be done using the crossover at Kings Cross.

[@czeslawkwoka6038]

This video shows primarily the backs of peoples heads with some tube tunnels in the background. Fast panning and the people constantly interrupting one another makes for a video with a lot of room for improvement. Sorry, but I think that constructive criticism is needed here very badly

[@alexgrundon2346]

Merry Christmas!

[@killer1479]

agreed, i felt the blonde woman was coming across as condescending and such, but thats just me, lol

[@Richardincancale]

47:16 Having had scabies as a child you do not forget!!!

[@alexgrundon2346]

Oh bless you. And thank you for watching. Happy (and healthy) new year to you!

[@GarethHowell]

Did anybody else get the idea that Laura was hot?

[@alexgrundon2346]

In every way, yes

[@Tommy-pu3nu]

ive been in there ileagaly

[@WeronikaSzulc-bd7wc]

The next station is Tin Shui Wai. Passengers may change there for light rail

[@WeronikaSzulc-bd7wc]

The next station is Long Ping.

[@WeronikaSzulc-bd7wc]

The next station is Yuen Long. Passengers may change there for light rail

[@WeronikaSzulc-bd7wc]

The next station is Kam Shui Road.

[@fatwalletboy2]

A lot of hair flicking going on....

[@alexgrundon2346]

💇‍♀️

[@alexgrundon2346]

Nixy wasn’t doing it tho. Don’t blame him

[@Lisbonized]

For some reason the TV series Allo Allo came into my mind! 😂

[@geoffreymartin2764]

Is there anything you guys don't know about the London underground system? 🏳‍🌈

[@djlocum]

Could you lot just decide who's going to speak and present each bit please. Talking over each other makes it come across like you are just a bunch of urban explorers which doesn't do justice to your knowledge or experience.

[@alexgrundon2346]

To be fair that’s easier said than done. I guess you mean create a segmented script and by doing so you’d lose all the spontaneity. This product is one with two audiences - new viewers can savour the view and go places they’re frankly forbidden from going. Regulars come for the fun and banter too. As a producer of radio and tv shows for years I have a few ideas for series 8 but none of us want to lose the spirit of joy and ‘of the moment reaction’ we have created since the start of the Hangouts. Glad you found us though. There’s a lot of this kind of stuff out there so thanks for tuning in. Happy New Year.

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

May I pass comment as an interested bystander independent of both of you? Sometimes we are reminded that we are lucky to live in a generally polite, respectful and diplomatic country, thankfully more than just this one on the planet too.. T'was a pleasure to read your thoughts, both. I reckon you're both right too. DJ, as you elegantly stated, we engaged members of the audience do get frustrated by the loss of nuggets of info from our hosts when they talk two at once. I completely agree that such attenuation does them no favours. Alex makes a fair point about the natural human bumping into one another, as it were, making the videos entertaining and real. (cf. my horror when Geoff Marshall let it be known in a recent offering that even the guest's answers to his questions are scripted!) much as I still find them visually interesting and he's still quite informative... Lastly, if you haven't done the Hidden London tours, you _absolutely_ should treat yourself. To many and several! Reason being, coming to Alex's point at last, is that they're full of gasps of *Oh my goodness. Look at... What? But...WOW!" tripping-over-yourself spontaneity. To script it would be joyless. As Alex says you just can't beat it. So, we have to like it, love it and occasionally lump it, I'd say.

[@hissingsid3907]

Can you good people get TFL to fix the tracks leading to/from Camden Town when going to/from East Finchley and stop that god awful screeching noise please

[@albin2232]

Hamas should not be allowed to build these tunnels.

[@Demun1649]

After watching your video on Ruislip Met Line station, and all the mistakes, and misinformation you gave out, and ignored my corrections, and not even an acknowledgment, I wonder how many mistakes, and misinformation is going to be tendered to the public? I think i AM GOING TO HAVE TO BLOCK YOUR CHANNEL, EVEN THOUGH I LOVE THE SUBJECT, but you can't be trusted.

[@alexgrundon2346]

There’s always one. Merry Christmas.

[@Demun1649]

@@alexgrundon2346 Arrogance supreme. You insult Ruislip, you insult its history, you don't correct anything, don't admit your mistakes and errors, and laziness. ONE RUISLIP IN THE WORLD, and you can't even pronounce it correctly. A HAPPY and HOLY CHRISTMAS to you, with an acceptance of the REASON FOR THE SEASON.

[@Lisbonized]

This gratuitous insulting of Ruislip has got to stop!!