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@timmaitland4617
@timmaitland4617 Жыл бұрын
And the Antonine Wall was NOT the northernmost extent of Roman fortifications. There's the Gask Ridge, which stretches in the direction of Aberdeen and includes a series of fortlets guarding each valley exiting the Highlands.
@Sam_Green____4114
@Sam_Green____4114 Жыл бұрын
You can tell by the Graffiti ! it's got " Amorem, non bellum ! Vide cart exactoris ad singula!!! " chiselled on one of the remaining walls ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dannyboywhaa3146
@dannyboywhaa3146 Жыл бұрын
Wow - thanks I didn’t know what! Awesome! So they did control the highlands to a certain extent - who could come and go etc... 👍
@timmaitland4617
@timmaitland4617 Жыл бұрын
@@dannyboywhaa3146 Possibly. But the forts were small hosting only a handful of men, so maybe it was more of an early warning system.
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info.
@davidgee1451
@davidgee1451 Жыл бұрын
As well as the Gask ridge in Perthshire, there were legionary forts at Braco and Inchtuthil, a bridge put across the river Tay (around Perth). Marching camps all along Vale of Strathmore and through to the Grampian mountains and the huge showdown battle at 'Mons Graupius' (exact site is uncertain). The Roman fleet supplied and supported the army and, according to some sources, sailed right around Scotland. Roman finds have turned up as far North as Caithness, although possibly as trade goods. So I'm not sure the Antonine wall can be said to be the northernmost limit to the Roman Empire.
@brucemackinnon6707
@brucemackinnon6707 Жыл бұрын
Research the Antonine Plague. About 15 years. Likely smallpox. Empire wide. About 10% of population died, including military. It was a major turning point for the Roman Empire. From here on, it was all downhill.
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
I've often thought by the way the gates were dismantled and structures were burnt to stop any others from holding facilities that the romans intended to come back and the retreat was only because they lacked the manpower due to some plague.
@view1st
@view1st Жыл бұрын
I'm given to understand that the climate changed as well sometime in the third or fourth century, becoming cooler and wetter, possibly due to volcanic activity in Asia and this change in climate impacted the Roman economy in a bad way.
@LongJohnHugeDong
@LongJohnHugeDong Жыл бұрын
I hate when people tell te to research something. Reminds me of flat earthers.
@tombarac8253
@tombarac8253 4 ай бұрын
​@@LongJohnHugeDong that's not the good way to think, but I get your point. If you are interested in this era read Gibbon because he made research about fall and pre-fall times of the Empire. He's probably the only one who did so. In short, if we can tell it that way, it failed due to inner decay, religious and economic issues - banking system in the first place. Advances system don't fail because of outside primitive threats whether those are tribes or diseases. Spanish flu killed more than 5% of population and after it world actually developed despite the fact it had happened year after biggest conflict in the human history.
@keithwaller4545
@keithwaller4545 Жыл бұрын
Excellent ,lovely to see Bettany again along with Phil Harding my favorite historians on tv.
@ian_b
@ian_b Жыл бұрын
So I was in the local pub with some of my colleagues and there was a quiz so we joined in. And the question was about the wall built by the Romans and my mate was like "Hadrian's Wall!" and I said, "they specified it starts with an A" and he immediately went, "Adrian's Wall!".
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was Hantoninus😉
@sarahstrong7174
@sarahstrong7174 Жыл бұрын
If there was a warm period going on. Quite likely the figs were U.K grown. Some people grow them now.
@sarahstrong7174
@sarahstrong7174 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing.
@postsurrealfish
@postsurrealfish Жыл бұрын
Many people forget the environmental conditions at the time and where the average temperature was a few degrees hotter than today and which is called the Roman Warm Period. During those much warmer times we even had vineyards along the now Scottish boarders, until it started to get cold again, with the Romans then leaving to go home.
@havingalook2
@havingalook2 Жыл бұрын
Very very interesting and very well presented by Bettany Hughes and Ben Robinson. Well done, thank you for bringing this to us. Cheers
@stuartwald2395
@stuartwald2395 Жыл бұрын
This was just one of several Roman moves to incorporate the Scottish lowlands (see Agricola, Severus, etc.), but they all foundered on three major points: (1) it was expensive as stated, including the hauling of grain from Yorkshire to feed the troops (taking it to the line of Hadrian's Wall is much less expensive; (2) there was little to loot and exploit by conquest; these were not settled territories nor mining areas, so the upside was low; and (3) every time a major effort was made and was going fairly well (including advancing up the east coast well beyond the Antonine line), troops were/would have to be withdrawn and sent to the Danube frontier or further away, so the remaining garrison would have to fall back to the Hadrian's Wall line which would work fine to control raiding and any major penetrations until the 360's (and that was the fault of a couple of generations of civil wars which had depleted the Roman army).
@ianhamilton3172
@ianhamilton3172 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful! I walked Hadrian’s Wall in the snow after visiting the Bronte’s parsonage at Haworth maybe twenty years ago. Was mixing two deep loves. Did not manage the Antonine Wall/Ditch but hope to visit Scotland again before dropping off the twig. Loved the comment about Roman propaganda. Sometimes it seemed the Romans just never considered any other way of doing things: bridge across the Rhine? I visited the small village of Mons in Provence (not the WWI one) & wandering about in nearby environs, taking heed about errant sangliers came across what I assume was the part of an aqueduct. It was punched straight through the rocky hillside, at its deepest point being maybe thirty feet in height. The walls still showed clear signs of the chisels used in the construction. Was simply staggering - nothing like the master work of the Pont du Gard, but just evidence of Roman thoroughness & absolute will. Great program and exceptionally well presented. Loved an earlier (much earlier) program by Bettany about the Minoans. Deemed myself so fortunate (as an Australian) to have visited Knossos. Perhaps Bettany will allow me to marry her mother…
@ivor1689
@ivor1689 Жыл бұрын
I came from Bo'ness one of the towns the wall ran through. I remember as a kid the excavation of a roman fort in Kinniel in the early 80's the layout of the fort has been marked with paving slabs and wooden posts. One of those slabs with inscriptions was found in the town.
@olwens1368
@olwens1368 Жыл бұрын
Also from Bo'ness, bit before your time. Remember being told about the wall at Primary School (BPS), in the 60s- and that there was a distance slab. I THINK we were taken to see it on display somewhere, but it's rather a long time since. Am still surprised at how few people outside of Scotland know about this wall- but then I now live near Caerwent, which also seems to be relatively unknown. Caerleon gets far more attention but for me Caerwent is just amazing.
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber Жыл бұрын
This is even more impressive than Hadrian's Wall. Simply because the evidence of a basic earth wall has survived for 1700 years.
@franciscruickshank8794
@franciscruickshank8794 Жыл бұрын
why dont they rebuild/restore some of the wall ? FFS a long ditch ! maybe thats why nobody visits ! ALBA GU BRATH
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent 4 ай бұрын
Brittany has an excellent voice for narrating this show. She brings excitement to a dull topic with real historical significance. Ben Robinson shows how exciting history is and it shows in his face and talk. I wish there was more written record of the people facing the Romans in this period. The idea of facing the most powerful Empire with just locals is a tale told over and over in history. Thanks for a good show. Happy Trails from Florida
@haggismuncher429
@haggismuncher429 Жыл бұрын
We really aren't exposed to just how cool all of our British history is. I've been dying to get up to Scara Brae for ages and also to find a Broch.
@h-Qalziel
@h-Qalziel Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, Skara Brae is amazing, the amount of detail there is there considering it's 5,000 years old is astounding, not to mention the beautiful landscape surrounding it. Would highly recommend it, as well as the rest of Orkney, there are so many neolithic sites there!
@davidgee1451
@davidgee1451 Ай бұрын
@haggismuncher429 I hope you manage to get to Orkney - a fascinating place - Scara Brae; Ring of Brodgar; Stones of Stenness; Maeshowe; Tomb of the Eagles and so much more!
@tbjtbj7930
@tbjtbj7930 Жыл бұрын
I was reading the plaque describing the wall at Falkirk. A small girl came up to me and asked what it said. I told her it described how the Romans came here long ago and built the ditch and wall that we could still see. She thought about this, and feeling she should give something back, said "At night this wood is full of strange men". So now I know something about the wall that the archaeologists somehow missed.
@MyMy-tv7fd
@MyMy-tv7fd Жыл бұрын
oooer
@nickbarton3191
@nickbarton3191 Жыл бұрын
What a insightful little girl. The Romans must have shuddered.
@westaussie965
@westaussie965 Жыл бұрын
I'd say that'd be the local jakeys from the nearby tenaments
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad Жыл бұрын
The Romans did not 'call a halt' at the Tyne valley. They roamed well beyond. The wall was a backstop well inside their territory.
@haydenskilton
@haydenskilton Жыл бұрын
Bettany Hughes 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@ScottJB
@ScottJB Жыл бұрын
Her energy is fantastic
@garypeacock5919
@garypeacock5919 Жыл бұрын
The guy in the national museum of Scotland done well to keep his eyes upwards 😜
@museonfilm8919
@museonfilm8919 Жыл бұрын
He thought he was looking down into the Antonine ditch! (I bet he had a few sneaky peeks off camera though 🥰)
@veronicaroach3667
@veronicaroach3667 Жыл бұрын
@@museonfilm8919 Thank you - exactly my point in my comment !
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Archaeology is the new Rock n Roll
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber Жыл бұрын
The Romans would definitely have used blackthorn, not hawthorn. It has longer, stronger, more vicious thorns. It results in a deep infected wound which, untreated, can be fatal.
@jimbob-robob
@jimbob-robob Жыл бұрын
Plenty of Gorse of course...
@s1nb4d59
@s1nb4d59 Жыл бұрын
Always love to see Bettany and listen to her talk with passion about rome and places of antiquity.
@dragon4r4
@dragon4r4 Жыл бұрын
We were always taught in history classes that the Romans were present in Scotland they just were unable to conquer it like they did in England and most other countries that they invaded. As kids we used to visit the Antonine wall north of Glasgow
@tooyoungtobeold8756
@tooyoungtobeold8756 Жыл бұрын
Sadly for the Scots that wasn't true, politics, changing emperors and a lack of interest (not many minerals, farm land etc) in Scotland brought about the halt. To think a few Scots could win against the Romans is not really feasible.
@justjohnsmith7330
@justjohnsmith7330 Жыл бұрын
@@tooyoungtobeold8756 it was the midgie that chased them out
@raysargent4055
@raysargent4055 Жыл бұрын
Just like to point out that neither Scotland or England existed at that time it was all just Britain .
@hetrodoxly1203
@hetrodoxly1203 Жыл бұрын
Reality is the Romans went into Scotland found nothing worth taking and no one worth taxing, built walls to mark the northern boundary , they built walls all over the empire most for taking tax off those who wanted to bring goods through them.
@dabtican4953
@dabtican4953 Жыл бұрын
After Hadrian they just didn't want to
@bremnersghost948
@bremnersghost948 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't the Ferocity of the Highlanders that made the Romans fall back to Hadrian's Wall, It was Scotland's Secret Weapon, The Infamous Scottish Midge!!! lol
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
i know you're joking but that's an interesting point, I wonder how suitable the climate back then was for them. It may have been just as wet but perhaps a lot warmer and fewer pine forests perhaps. In southern England there were probably mosquitos.
@janice506
@janice506 Ай бұрын
We do know the romans found it cold as shown by letters home to their loved ones asking for thick socks etc
@charliebuttocks2400
@charliebuttocks2400 Жыл бұрын
The beautiful Bethany huges
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 Жыл бұрын
This video worth watching just for Bettany. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@shaunxthexmod777
@shaunxthexmod777 Жыл бұрын
I had wee, under that tree, in 2003, great walk,
@raysargent4055
@raysargent4055 Жыл бұрын
The obvious flaw with the Antonine wall is that it had the enemy on both sides and one hundred miles of extra hostile territory to control .
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
I can't find much evidence for 'hostility'.
@blueviper181
@blueviper181 Жыл бұрын
The enemy ?? You mean the native population that was invaded by oppressors ?
@raysargent4055
@raysargent4055 Жыл бұрын
@@blueviper181 yes
@patrickporter1864
@patrickporter1864 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if Donald has ever seen any of these walls. If he did he did not absorb the lessons.
@pdnpatrickmitchell691
@pdnpatrickmitchell691 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but it doesn't mention the military limitation of the wall: It could be easily outflanked by crossing the water.
@ericwilson8000
@ericwilson8000 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, as the tribes did to Rome at a later date.
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
Were both walls more symbolic than necessary? I mean, did the Romans import tens of thousands of extra soldiers and slaves just to build these (ultimately) temporary structures, or did the northern tribes actually help them build it? The presenter suggested the hoard of coins on display was tribute paid to the tribes, but it could've been wages!
@a.life.of.skullduggery5921
@a.life.of.skullduggery5921 Жыл бұрын
@jebrindle9380 Rome used "auxiliary" troops throughout their territory. So rather than importing troops they would have local collaborators do both the building and military duties.
@IDPYouTube
@IDPYouTube Жыл бұрын
@@jebrindle9380 The presenter’s tone is unfortunate and common. Mocking the Romans and saying things are PR stunts is to miss the crucial point and not to be able to see the failings of our own dumbed down system. The Romans demanded successful leaders, not virtue signallers or great speakers or career politicians. People had to demonstrate their worth or lose their standing. All Roman roads are named after one person who was responsible for the project. Who was more successful at building projects than the Romans? Even bread has been found stamped not with the business name but the person who made it, and so were the rams on their boats, so there were no fakes, no people hiding behind committees, people often risked their life not just reputation to life a life worth living and be worthy of their position and have honour. Real skin in the game. Mary Beard tries to do the same with Caesar who could have died easily but succeeded and then mocks his writings as PR propaganda. Well they were real successes and if he was bad at what he was doing he’d have been dead. Also, he could not lie, because thousands of soldiers would have contracted him. It seems social studies professors are not concerned with understanding the Romans and understanding how they were successful almost beyond belief.
@IDPYouTube
@IDPYouTube Жыл бұрын
@@jebrindle9380 The presenter and the museum have no idea why the coins where there, it’s speculation, and in most videos the “experts” fail to be explicit about what is just their opinion and why and what there is evidence for. And no the Romans would not need to import anyone to build a 40 mile frontier. You can look up many things the Romans built and how many soldiers were in north Britain. Roman soldiers were totally accustomed to digging trenches and making fortifications and traps - they did it every single time they made camp anywhere, no matter what they had done. It was a core skill. This would take ~3 hours. This is one of many reasons how they were so successful and could be outnumbered and set up camp close to the larger enemy with little fear, let alone defeat them.
@leddielive
@leddielive 2 ай бұрын
I can remember visiting Hadrians Wall way back in 1978 with Benjamin Robinson, who knew approx 45+ yrs later Ben would be visiting the Wall again with a film camera crew documenting his visit, funny old world ain't it?😂
@abrahamdozer6273
@abrahamdozer6273 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the ancients didn't plant thick rose bushes at the top of their defences. I'm serious. They are so thorny and nasty that they'd act like Somme barbed wire. They're organic, don't require fabrication and grow well in that climate. Don't believe me? walk through some roses, some time.
@user-xh3lz9xt4l
@user-xh3lz9xt4l Жыл бұрын
I believe you having fallen off my parents front walk into the front rose bed. I was in agony for weeks.I was only 9 years old trying to be clever on the front undulating brick wall. Only the once.
@loadapish
@loadapish Жыл бұрын
Nice set
@Michael-fl1tm
@Michael-fl1tm 5 ай бұрын
Bountiful
@redcruben
@redcruben 3 ай бұрын
Found the Antonine. Wall while visiting the Falkirk wheel, I didn't know it was so close. A very impressive structure
@BlackBuck777
@BlackBuck777 Жыл бұрын
As a youth I was fortunate enough to live in Bearsden (13:00 on) with part of the Antonine wall in my back garden. In that location it formed a small but very steep grassed valley across our land which was a nightmare as one of my pocket money tasks was to cut the grass with a very heavy Ransomes petrol lawnmower. I wanted my father to fill it in to make the job easier, but we were not allowed to touch anything or dig on it on pain of penalty from someone or other. The graveyard shown (14:05) was a couple of doors up the road and the wall continued to Bettany's left, out of the graveyard to what is now Douglas Park Golf Course and the 15th hole. A tricky Par 3.
@andrewheaney6858
@andrewheaney6858 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been to that graveyard, and seen that part of the wall, I remember seeing a plaque saying a lot of the “ Roman soldiers “ were actually Syrian
@theotherandrew5540
@theotherandrew5540 Жыл бұрын
Tell us about the Roman forts further north, on opposite sides of the Tay at Perth, and as far north as Spinie or Burghead in NE Scotland.
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I walked all the Hadrians Wall with an English friend, from Walls End to Solway. And I think it was soldiers who built it, as from the stones collected at Walls End? And to be named conqueror, you had to conquer something!
@robertthebruce-geniusofban647
@robertthebruce-geniusofban647 2 ай бұрын
A very enjoyable film on a remarkable feature of southern Scotland’s landscape. This area would also have been well known and referred to in medieval times, and likely a popular meeting place along various segments of it.
@SODtv
@SODtv Ай бұрын
Southern Scotland?
@JS-jh4cy
@JS-jh4cy Жыл бұрын
The Romans built the two lines of defense there due to geography both the shortest distance from sea to sea
@JS-jh4cy
@JS-jh4cy Жыл бұрын
A wall just slows down a horde of tribal clans from just raiding back and forth every few weeks for free food, slaves and coins and livestock
@dragon4r4
@dragon4r4 Жыл бұрын
Defending and repelling foreign invaders more like
@nl4064
@nl4064 2 ай бұрын
as a Scotman Ive never once spoken to anyone that thought the Romans stopped at hadrians wall. we all know they raided and settled all over the place even Perth, Fort Augustus etc
@Michael-fl1tm
@Michael-fl1tm 6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for her to remove that scarf❤
@onitada
@onitada Жыл бұрын
I am in love with Bettany Hughes
@anthonyjohnson1519
@anthonyjohnson1519 Жыл бұрын
Bettany 😍😍😍
@iMertin
@iMertin Жыл бұрын
right through my town of falkirk
@westaussie965
@westaussie965 Жыл бұрын
0:56 its pronounced 'Glaz-go' not 'Glarsgo'
@janibeg3247
@janibeg3247 Жыл бұрын
i made a miniature of Hadrian's wall in 2nd year Latin class for a class project.
@arcboutant
@arcboutant Жыл бұрын
It’s never been ‘they didn’t get any further’, lassie.It’s always been they didn’t stay because they were not made welcome!
@millysworld6150
@millysworld6150 Жыл бұрын
She should check out castle anthrax
@johndudley5761
@johndudley5761 Жыл бұрын
This is new to me ! Cool 👍
@yourplumbingpal1225
@yourplumbingpal1225 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant , really enjoyed this and its in my back yard so to speak.
@Dunbardoddy
@Dunbardoddy 11 ай бұрын
In my day every primary school pupil knew about the Antonine wall. All beit that was quite a while ago and it was Scotland. The Hunterian Museum in Glasgow - founder was William Hunter (physician) brother of the founder of the London Hunterian Museum John Hunter (surgeon). They were Lanarkshire descendants of The Hunters of Hunterston North Ayrshire.
@martinhogg5337
@martinhogg5337 Жыл бұрын
A bit like creating 15 minute cities! Hopefully they will go the same way as Antonine’s wall!
@olwens1368
@olwens1368 Жыл бұрын
And rather more quickly..
@davidredmond1761
@davidredmond1761 Жыл бұрын
Love your field boots lol
@normanwallace7658
@normanwallace7658 Жыл бұрын
A large portian of the missing IXth Legion that fough in Anglesey was massacered by the Pictish Tribes in the Scotish Lowlands the rest dissapeared without trace in the German Forests a small Cohort was mentioned in the Nethrrlands when sent to Judea after which all mention of the IXth Legion Dissapear from all records ??
@conormcmenemie5126
@conormcmenemie5126 Жыл бұрын
Various names of soldiers of the 9th are found on tombs in the Dacia region. It would seem that the legion was dispersed amongst other units.
@macbatz6734
@macbatz6734 Жыл бұрын
Read Rosemary Sutcliffe's wonderful novel The Eagle Of The Ninth ! (But don't see the terrible movie made from it)
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
This has the truism of a Mel Gibson film!
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
I don't think there is any evidence of such a massacre. It was only a now out of date proposal to explain its disappearance from records but we now know they were just moved to the low countries
@andrewheaney6858
@andrewheaney6858 Жыл бұрын
“To stop a hostile invading force reaching them” …..it was their land and it was the Romans who were the the hostile invaders !
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting that north of the wall - as elsewhere in Britain - it was all peace and camaraderie amongst the then indigenous tribes? Also who did the Pictish people / culture replace?
@andrewheaney6858
@andrewheaney6858 Жыл бұрын
@@jebrindle9380Sometimes I think we’ll never know Je , it’s so back in time we can only draw conclusions from what we read and everyone who wrote it from Tacticus to Bede had vested interests, the only thing we can observe is the seemingly unchanging behaviour of the human condition, that said to call the Pictish people “ hostile invaders” in their own land is erroneous.
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
Andrew, what indigenous people did the Picts replace?
@andrewheaney6858
@andrewheaney6858 Жыл бұрын
@@jebrindle9380 It depends on what you read, I’ve read that the first original indigenous inhabitants were from the hunter gathers following the melting glaciers across Doggerland from Scandinavia, that seems plausible to me, but even DNA data can be hit and miss with fluctuations in early transient Europeans , that’s about the best I can help you with Je .
@davidlittle7182
@davidlittle7182 Жыл бұрын
@@jebrindle9380 Suggesting the inhabitants of a country deserve partition because their ancestors weren’t the indigenous people is terrible logic.
@keypoint1293
@keypoint1293 Жыл бұрын
There is a place called Roman Camp in West Lothian outside Edinburgh.
@johnmorrison9424
@johnmorrison9424 Жыл бұрын
From Bo’ness and on to the west .Not quite Edinburgh
@hereIam1965
@hereIam1965 Жыл бұрын
Scotland does not start at Hadrians wall ... Scotland starts approx 50 MILES North ! At the Northumberland/ Scottish border ..
@kennethrollo7891
@kennethrollo7891 Жыл бұрын
At one end,
@MrLeighton782
@MrLeighton782 Жыл бұрын
Scotland did not exist t that time it was all Briton
@davidlittle7182
@davidlittle7182 Жыл бұрын
@@MrLeighton782 ‘Britain’ did not exist in the modern sense either. A pointless correction to make
@MrLeighton782
@MrLeighton782 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlittle7182 The land inhabited by the Britons was Britain,
@davidlittle7182
@davidlittle7182 Жыл бұрын
@@MrLeighton782 The *island* inhabited by the people the Romans called 'Britons' was called 'Britannia' by the Romans. There were at least 27 major tribes with their own kingdoms or fiefdoms. Pointless correction again
@bullfrommull
@bullfrommull Жыл бұрын
The Gask Ridge was the most northerly fortifications. Braco to Perth there is well persevered evidence.
@jimbob-robob
@jimbob-robob Жыл бұрын
Romans never got to Australia...
@bullfrommull
@bullfrommull Жыл бұрын
@@jimbob-robob 🤣🤣🤣 is there a Braco in Aus.
@jimbob-robob
@jimbob-robob Жыл бұрын
@@bullfrommull no but there's a Perth.
@gerrypowell2748
@gerrypowell2748 Жыл бұрын
Could the Romans politics prove ineffective against the local population in subjugation them,hence the experiment using walls and barriers,which as we know really wasn’t that effective🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@cadderley100
@cadderley100 25 күн бұрын
Why is the Atonine Wall never covered as much as Hadrian's Wall is? Wouldn't it's effectiveness depend largely on how often your being raided from the other side of the wall?
@patrickhouston2610
@patrickhouston2610 2 ай бұрын
Myth omly in England, the Scottish know much better, on visiting to Scotland we got to know the Antonine wall very well, and stayed on a half mile away from one part of it in northern Glasgow. Forts clearly seen between Lambhill and Kirkintilloch.
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 Жыл бұрын
We went to Bonnybridge to see a section of this. I got a photo of my ex standing in the ditch for an idea of the size of it. She wasn't impressed with the wall.
@michaelmazowiecki9195
@michaelmazowiecki9195 Жыл бұрын
There is a Roman legionary fortress well north of the Antonine wall at Inchtuthil which predates both walls. Evidently Scotland wasn't worth occupying as the economic returns were not worth the effort.
@markshrimpton3138
@markshrimpton3138 Жыл бұрын
I have 3 nails that came from that site. When the Romans demolished the partially complete fortress they buried the iron nails in great deep pits in an effort to deny the high quality iron to the local tribes.
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
I agree, Michael. From what l have gathered, there wasn't much in the way of rich pickings north of either wall.
@andrewheaney6858
@andrewheaney6858 Жыл бұрын
Rich pickings or not they could never completely subdue the indigenous population even after their victory at the battle of Mons Graupius
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewheaney6858 with nothing of particular interest to fight over, what incentive did the Romans have?
@andrewheaney6858
@andrewheaney6858 Жыл бұрын
@@jebrindle9380 They were motivated by an unquenchable desire to conquer and subjugated which their culture was totally immersed in, anything less than this would be considered a defeat !
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Жыл бұрын
That's bad luck catching a rainy day 😂
@chrisardern4594
@chrisardern4594 Жыл бұрын
The thumb nail of this post looks exactly like the scene in Robin hood prince of thieves when Costner meets little Johns son.
@linseyyoung1772
@linseyyoung1772 Жыл бұрын
Instructive that you use terms like "enemies" and "aggressors" when describing the people who were being invaded by the Romans. Still, at least you found a token Scotsman or two to talk about something in Scotland...
@museonfilm8919
@museonfilm8919 Жыл бұрын
Mostly English ponces in museums, no locals.
@paullambert9720
@paullambert9720 Жыл бұрын
@@museonfilm8919 Well in fairness, they did interview a Scottish ponce in a museum.
@cammacgregor9354
@cammacgregor9354 Жыл бұрын
Young---perhaps if you paid attention to the context of her comments and the physical gestures made during the statements, you be inclined to make less foolish statements.
@blueviper181
@blueviper181 Жыл бұрын
Scotland is over run by people from England fleeing immigrants
@linseyyoung1772
@linseyyoung1772 Жыл бұрын
@@cammacgregor9354 Perhaps it's you making foolish statements.
@Johannes_Brahms65
@Johannes_Brahms65 Жыл бұрын
I can't help wondering if youtube suggested this video to me because I'm working on my steinway action rail.
@thomasmcgregor2011
@thomasmcgregor2011 Жыл бұрын
I used to live on a street in Kirkintilloch called Antonine
@StephenReid-hk8hs
@StephenReid-hk8hs 4 ай бұрын
I also used to live in Kirkitilloch, there's also the Antonine pub on the main street 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 Жыл бұрын
I'm only 37 seconds in (the intro) and it's already historically inaccurate. 🤦‍♂ Instantly added to my 'Don't recommend channel' list.
@stustanski3912
@stustanski3912 Жыл бұрын
Looks like where they filmed a scene from Robin Hood
@eddieboy4667
@eddieboy4667 Жыл бұрын
A history lesson for our modern army. Logistics!!!!! Supplies must be organised to follow the front line. Take note Russia.
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure it would have been much different than supplying the Hadrianic wall. Both would have been supplied by ships and local foraging. The supply to the Antonine wall would have been further to go for the ships but a shorter journey across the land to get to the forts.
@vincenthawke3049
@vincenthawke3049 Жыл бұрын
A scene from Robin hood price of thieves was filmed there.... Where Guy or Gisborne first crossed swords with Robin after chasing "Wolf" up the tree..
@williammcilwraith9304
@williammcilwraith9304 Жыл бұрын
That was on Hadrians wall.
@antonyreyn
@antonyreyn 5 ай бұрын
Got no Tree luv
@AQ-bd8ry
@AQ-bd8ry Жыл бұрын
Fighting For My Country 🇺🇸💎
@grahamfleming8139
@grahamfleming8139 Жыл бұрын
Yip Alba Agus USA 🇺🇸
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 Жыл бұрын
At the edge of Scotland? Really? I don't know who did your research but when Hadrian's Wall was built the Scots were still in Ireland. So that was not the land of the Scots.
@section5760
@section5760 Жыл бұрын
So who were the Romans fighting and scared of?? And ware did the 9th legion disappear to?? 🤔🤔🤔
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 Жыл бұрын
@@section5760 The Britains. The Scots did not leave Ireland until long after the Romans built Hadrian's Wall. And if it was built to keep the Scots out all they had to do it sail around it from Ireland. In fact the Roman navy had scout ships out in the Irish Sea for just such a purpose. Interestingly the ships hull and sail were painted blue to make it harder for them to be seen by the raider. The wall was built not to keep anyone out, there were many gates in the wall to let people pass through, but more of a marker to show where Rome ended and the rest of the world began. I hope that helps.
@baldy3405
@baldy3405 Жыл бұрын
Wow didn’t realise u time travelled thanks for that. 👍
@sanjivjhangiani3243
@sanjivjhangiani3243 Жыл бұрын
They are using the modern names of countries to make the program more relatable. As for your Scotti, remember an invading force was always a lot smaller than the existing population. So, the people in Scotland today would be descended from the Picts, the Scots, and others.
@davidlittle7182
@davidlittle7182 Жыл бұрын
@@bigblue6917 you mean ‘Britons’ which is a range of kingdoms with languages of p-Celtic origin
@prc789
@prc789 Жыл бұрын
Very weird video, the whole concept is flawed as I'm sure that I wasn't in the only classroom at 8 years old, learning about the Antonine wall!
@PShawtx
@PShawtx Жыл бұрын
So what was stopping people from the north from going across the water at either end and going around the wall ?
@IDPYouTube
@IDPYouTube Жыл бұрын
Roman navy. Roman lookout towers.
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
they hadn't got wellies yet
@kopynd1
@kopynd1 Жыл бұрын
the chief of the brigantee, was tommy douglas
@neonskyline1
@neonskyline1 Жыл бұрын
Actually they did do things by half, Hadrians wall started 3m wide and ended up skinny, same as the ditches, they couldn't be bothered finishing them correctly
@barryohara2099
@barryohara2099 Жыл бұрын
Maye wasn't that couldn't be bothered finishing them correctly just maybe were guarded more and had garrisons at those parts .. so knew were safe ..
@jonaldous6720
@jonaldous6720 Жыл бұрын
I think the wall was built for controlling the movement of locals and an economic barrier, than a defense military structure in most places.
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
Maybe there wasn't such a threat from the north as some would have us believe.
@barryohara2099
@barryohara2099 Жыл бұрын
@@jebrindle9380 if wasn't threat from North and us Scots then why build wall 1st place ?? Romans never done it anywhere else that went in world ?? ..
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
@@barryohara2099 Several reasons for building a wall have been posted here. You may wish to wonder what these ferocious Picts were doing whilst the Romans spent six years building Hadrian's Wall? Were they actually helping to build it? And then, just 19 years later, the Romans moved 100 miles further north and built the Antonine Wall. The local tribes didn't seem to be much of a problem in either case. The resources around both areas were pretty meagre and possibly not worth the effort of maintaining such demarcations. Both walls may have been vanity projects to an extent to impress different emperors. Perhaps they were built to give an otherwise idle army something to do. Take your pick. Btw, the Scots had not settled up there at the time. They were still in 'lreland'
@JCox-zp1bk
@JCox-zp1bk Жыл бұрын
l don't remeber the length time required to complete the project given in the presentation. Maybe no one knows how much time was required. My question is, why didn't the enemy tribes attack the Romans while the barrier was being constructed. I would think the Romans would be vulnerable to an attack during that time. Surely the enemy tribes were aware that the ditch and wall were being constructed.
@redf7209
@redf7209 Жыл бұрын
Romans didn't hide behind walls so it probably didn't make that much difference. The romans would have slept and kept stores in temporary camps that could have been created in a day,. the soldiers had to keep swords within reach at all times.
@raysargent4055
@raysargent4055 Жыл бұрын
It is a testament to failed ambition.
@RickPop85
@RickPop85 Жыл бұрын
gask ridge was the most northern frontier of the roman empire
@tobiasfreitag2182
@tobiasfreitag2182 Жыл бұрын
The tree in the very beginning looks just like a place in one of the first scenes in robin hood with Kevin Costner. I think it's the scene where he saves the poacher fro the sheriffs soldiers...
@mondriaa
@mondriaa Жыл бұрын
its indeed the same place
@DrBLReid
@DrBLReid Жыл бұрын
Beautiful lady MC
@Hadi31689
@Hadi31689 8 ай бұрын
It is the work of quintus lollius urbicus
@cyclist68
@cyclist68 8 ай бұрын
Drones must have wrecked the commercial helicopter market 🤔
@bremnersghost948
@bremnersghost948 Жыл бұрын
Always wondered why the Romans didn't use their Navy to Attack the Highlands, Lot easier than Marching.
@tombarac8253
@tombarac8253 4 ай бұрын
They didn't have intention to conquer it. They conquered Illyrians, it took few centuries but they finally incorporated it in their borders. Scotland they can conquer it in few months due to its geography.
@patrickporter1864
@patrickporter1864 2 ай бұрын
They did they sailed the hebredies and up the coast. It was their activities in Scotland and the north of England that kept them out of Ireland.
@01karmacop
@01karmacop Жыл бұрын
The presenter is so beautiful
@lochlainnmacneill2870
@lochlainnmacneill2870 Жыл бұрын
Wha Daur Meddle Wi' Me?
@clarepover4978
@clarepover4978 Ай бұрын
let's see the map not talking heads in close up or the top of the car boot supporting what we the views want to view in depth.
@cynthiarowley719
@cynthiarowley719 Жыл бұрын
Diplomacy or bribery. What can you buy with gold in Scotland? Was there shopping?
@jebrindle9380
@jebrindle9380 Жыл бұрын
Wages to be spent at the Roman hypermarket, perhaps?
@bettyswallocks6411
@bettyswallocks6411 Жыл бұрын
Why call it an “OctoCopter”, when it only has 4 rotors?
@davidgee1451
@davidgee1451 Жыл бұрын
Surely a quad copter...?!
@islandnug9885
@islandnug9885 Жыл бұрын
Two rotor assemblies on each of the four booms.
@conormcmenemie5126
@conormcmenemie5126 Жыл бұрын
What rubbish from the first sentence.
@secdetau
@secdetau Жыл бұрын
Gnaeus Julius Agricola
@grantquinones
@grantquinones Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised BBC didn't make a documentary about Hadrian and make him black
@huw3851
@huw3851 Жыл бұрын
10 minutes worth of program puffed up by excitedly staring into drone camera footage, unnecessary recaps and pausing to look at the scenery.
@forbesmeek6304
@forbesmeek6304 9 ай бұрын
In Scotland whins (gorse) were ground up and fed to cattle in the winter. I'm sure the Maoris viewed white settlers as being big a pestilence as the gorse. 😂
@robnewman6101
@robnewman6101 Жыл бұрын
Robin Hood. Prince of Thieves 1991.
@richardlove4287
@richardlove4287 Жыл бұрын
Lol, the Scottish were so much trouble that the Roman’s had to build ANOTHER wall to keep the Scottish OUT. Then the Scottish made their lives so hard the Roman’s abandoned it all.
@ianlangbridge1649
@ianlangbridge1649 Жыл бұрын
I am no longer British, or English, I have realised that I have become indigenous
@hetrodoxly1203
@hetrodoxly1203 Жыл бұрын
All English are indigenous.
@ianlangbridge1649
@ianlangbridge1649 Жыл бұрын
@@hetrodoxly1203 all Australians are indigenous, all Americans are indigenous all Africans are indigenous? Think again.
@hetrodoxly1203
@hetrodoxly1203 Жыл бұрын
@@ianlangbridge1649 No they're not.
@grahamfleming8139
@grahamfleming8139 Жыл бұрын
Ger oot. Glan a mach a seo!wha daur meddle wi us!
@user-hf3lj8jh8x
@user-hf3lj8jh8x 4 ай бұрын
Ok, fess up. How many clicked just because you missed the tree?
@EVZYL
@EVZYL Жыл бұрын
A suggestion to add to the script at 20:15 after ' between the power both of oppression and resilience' add: 'or between the power of civilization and barbarity.' It all depends on your perspective.
@MENDNZ
@MENDNZ Жыл бұрын
And down here in NZ we suffer badly from terrible infestation of Scottish gorse...kindly brought by some homesick settler. It grows too well in NZ climate and costs $billions each year to spray and control.
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