The Antonine Wall: Rome's attempt to control the rebels of Northern Britain

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7 ай бұрын

The Antonine Wall was built around the year 142 as an attempt by Emperor Antoninus Pius to push the frontiers of the Roman empire deeper into northern Britain. At less than 70km long and running from the Firth of Forth to the Firth of Clyde, the wall was a mixture of stone foundations, high earth bank and deep outer ditch and provided a formidable defence against the tribes to the north who may wish to raid into Roman territory. But, like its predecessor Hadrian's Wall, the Antonine Wall, may also have been a way of controlling those within the empire, to stop them fleeing to safety.
Although only actually used for less than 20 years, the wall still exists in the landscape even today, and is one of the more overlooked of all Roman remains in Britain.
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@WILLIAM1690WALES
@WILLIAM1690WALES 7 ай бұрын
One of the best videos I think I’ve ever seen about Roman Britain and I would’ve thought done on a modest budget but kudos to the filming to the music and your presentational skills. Well done.🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧
@chrisdooley1184
@chrisdooley1184 7 ай бұрын
The Caledon remains are a fabulous way to spend a day hiking and stopping for a picnic. The sheer manpower that was necessary isn’t given justice by just drone photography and video. To walk it and to peer up five six meters and then imagining another four five meters of wooden fences on top of that, the tribes must’ve been quite fearful of trying to attack it! Anyway very informative video! I’m so glad I came across your channel as I subscribed for more. The use of the drone really helped push the quality to the top mate. Cheers
@tbjtbj7930
@tbjtbj7930 7 ай бұрын
I was reading the plaque describing the section of the wall at Falkirk. A small girl came up to me and asked what it said. I told her it said how the Romans came here long ago and built the ditch and wall that we could still see. She thought about this, and feeling she should give something back, said "At night this wood is full of strange men". So now I know something about the wall that the archaeologists somehow missed.
@kevwhufc8640
@kevwhufc8640 6 ай бұрын
Maybe it's the ghosts of the lost 9th legion she was talking about.... Apparently they disappeared in that region..
@Fr.FintanStack
@Fr.FintanStack 7 ай бұрын
Sad to see the Sycamore Gap tree has been vandalised
@davidbraithwaite704
@davidbraithwaite704 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, saw that...two more arrested! Why I wonder 🤔
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 7 ай бұрын
I think I guessed which tree but I can't see any vandalism of any sort. The video is quite new so it must have happened very recently. It's a big tree. What happened to it?
@IndependentHeathen
@IndependentHeathen 7 ай бұрын
​@@larsrons7937 15:04
@IndependentHeathen
@IndependentHeathen 7 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3S8dah5i7qEjLcsi=kuZc1cRXHAmcF-GR
@glen1555
@glen1555 7 ай бұрын
Nice to see a quick view of the old tree
@ClassicalRaritiesChannel
@ClassicalRaritiesChannel 7 ай бұрын
Yet another fantastic video Ollie - thanks. This channel should have way more subscribers than it does now 🙂
@fe3bal
@fe3bal 7 ай бұрын
I've always believed the walls were not only for defense, but also trade barriers. Ensuring goods entering and leaving the empire was properly taxed and levied.
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 6 ай бұрын
The Picts (Scotland) did not have any trade goods that were worth much to Rome.
@ronhall9394
@ronhall9394 7 ай бұрын
One small point - the territory betwixt the two walls was not simply 'the Lowlands of Scotland' as you said (about 8.56) but a considerable chunk of it is Northumberland, which - last time I looked - is very definitely England. Good video by the way. PS The ditch in front of Hadrian's Wall was not just a simple ditch, there's evidence from excavations in the part of Newcastle where I live (Throckley) that the bottom was line with stone slabs that had holes drilled into them to allow sharpened stakes to be deployed, their version of razor wire I suppose...
@derekweir7692
@derekweir7692 6 ай бұрын
you need to learn history when Northumbria went up to the Lothians it wasnt apart of your present day England, Athelstane lost it all at the battle there in east lothian to the picts. on that day in 832AD was born the Saltire a lot older than your stolen Dodes cross from Catalunya when you yo-yos were fighting the Moors.
@ArmstA79
@ArmstA79 7 ай бұрын
Excellent again Ollie, loved the added production in this one. I find it quite amazing how politics and conflicts from 2000 years ago still boils up anger and conflict today!
@markstuartwakeley
@markstuartwakeley 7 ай бұрын
Great video must get up there for a look
@paulhargreaves9103
@paulhargreaves9103 7 ай бұрын
You are a veritable raconteur Ollie…..thank you.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 7 ай бұрын
12:30 RIP the tree.
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 7 ай бұрын
What happened to the tree? In this quite newly uploaded video there's nothing special to see.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 7 ай бұрын
@@larsrons7937 Some vandal chopped it down.
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 7 ай бұрын
@@zapfanzapfan That's so sad. It was a beautiful tree, it seems it was dear to many, and possibly also had historic value. In old times they would have raised the tree again, and those who did it would have been punished with a rope.
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 7 ай бұрын
@@zapfanzapfan That's so sad. It was a beautiful tree, it seems it was dear to many, and possibly also had historic value. In old times they would have raised the tree again, and those who did it would have been punished with a rope.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 7 ай бұрын
@@larsrons7937 I'm usually against capital punishment but sometimes I have my doubts...
@Jinty92
@Jinty92 5 ай бұрын
I have to travel past the area of the Antonine wall driving daily to work at Old Kilpatrick, West Dunbartonshire. Locally there are Sports clubs and other buildings called Antonine. The classes in my school have different names and one is called Antonine. You can see remnants of the wall at different locations. Some slabs are preserved in a museum but there is some parts at Bearsden, East Dunbartonshire, near Glasgow.
@london2resistance
@london2resistance 6 ай бұрын
I disagree, the Romans didn’t just conquer indiscriminately for the sake of it. There had to be economic benefits to very expensive military campaigns. A lot of the times the romans just let people self-rule and pay tribute to the emperor. Antonine and Hadrian wall served more as a customs border
@Ian-if2lf
@Ian-if2lf 6 ай бұрын
the self rule is sometimes referred to as Hellenization, but that is not this, sometimes they had an unbeatable enemy, they could have thrown all their might and still gone home with sore feet missing eyes and 10% of what the left with, you can call it ''economic choice'' but you can also call it lack of will or ''cowardice''. depending on the campaign and what was hoped to be achieved.
@brettroman3218
@brettroman3218 6 ай бұрын
Excellent commentary!
@andrewwoodgate3769
@andrewwoodgate3769 7 ай бұрын
Excellent, well-edited documentary
@chriswatson7965
@chriswatson7965 6 ай бұрын
My understanding had always been that the Antonine wall was put in as a method of saving costs as it was shorter and required fewer troops, but that it was a failure and it ended up more costly to maintain. Having a wall at all was a cost saving exercise, to reduce the cost of maintaining law and order. The tribes north of the wall were considered unsuitable as they were unproductive and costly, whereas large areas of Britain south of the wall were vital to the Roman economy, namely from tin mining and wool. Whereas ego did play a part in Roman politics and government it was mostly dictated by the realities of costs and taxation.
@expatexpat6531
@expatexpat6531 7 ай бұрын
Very good! There also seems to be a cycle path - so well worth exploring as a destination.
@MrUniman609
@MrUniman609 7 ай бұрын
Such a shame that that tree has gone.
@JamesRattray
@JamesRattray 6 ай бұрын
What about the Gask Ridge Frontier? It ran along the Gask ridge from just south of what is Perth today, to the bogy lands to the west around Loch Lomond. It believe it was the first Roman Frontier constructed before any other.
@claytonbarnett7084
@claytonbarnett7084 6 ай бұрын
A quarter century ago, my wife and I (FUSA) were two week on holiday in Scotland. Being the amateur historian I was, we drove about here and there until, passing some slag heaps, we found a part of the Antonine Wall. I took pictures; she was less than impressed.
@ruairidhmunro
@ruairidhmunro 6 ай бұрын
I recall my niece (born in Scotland) being told by a history teacher at an English school that the romans never travelled beyond Hadrian's wall and that when she mentioned the Antonine wall in an essay that she was wrong and actually meant Hadrian's wall.
@georgeroberts-morehen9147
@georgeroberts-morehen9147 6 ай бұрын
TEACHERS😂😅🤣 STATE sponsored lackeys & 'Know it alls.'
@kevwhufc8640
@kevwhufc8640 5 ай бұрын
That's shocking, I can understand that people who are not interested in history not knowing anything about the antonine wall, when I left school I wasn't interested in history, I'd never heard of the antonine wall. Most people wouldn't have known about it, only those who lived in the area wouldve But for a history teacher, its terrible they didn't know. Even worse that the teacher said it didn't exist.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 7 ай бұрын
That big tree in the dip in the land at 1:05 and 12:31 is one of the film locations used in the 1991 movie Robin Hood. Ollie, thanks for another great historical watch, always enjoyed Roman History. Thanks for your time, work and posting...... mike
@shizzlenizzle98
@shizzlenizzle98 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately its now been chopped down by some scumbags :(
@BeeHereNowuk
@BeeHereNowuk 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah sadly that tree was chopped down last month. It was national news over here. Big scandal
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 7 ай бұрын
Who in the world would do something like that? @@BeeHereNowuk
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 7 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it, the story did make the news over here, it was on "Fox Cable News," but I had no idea it was THAT tree. I just read it was two people that did it, some kid and a crazy old guy??? Instead of cutting down trees why not pick up trash or get rid of graffiti or something like that -- but to chop down a tree.@@BeeHereNowuk
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 7 ай бұрын
I don't know if they have scummy prisons in the UK but that would be too good for those two.@@shizzlenizzle98
@mancdave123
@mancdave123 7 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video Ollie, very much enjoyed this one ❤
@RingwayManchester
@RingwayManchester 7 ай бұрын
Another great video mate
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence
@RossMaynardProcessExcellence 7 ай бұрын
Great video. I live less than a mile from the Croy Hill section of the wall. The nearby Barr Hill is probably the most atmospheric part. The Westerwood section (about 2 miles east of Barr Hill) is also atmospheric, and Rough Castle behind Falkirk (near Bonnybridge) is really interesting. More on the Romans in Scotland please because they went much further north than this - the Roman fort at Braco is good.
@AScottishOdyssey
@AScottishOdyssey 7 ай бұрын
I've been to the Ardoch Roman Fort, which is the one at Braco, as well as Rough Castle. Exploring Scotland's Roman history is reall interesting.
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 7 ай бұрын
I'm fascinated by the Antonine Wall. I've read several books on this little known facet of Classical World Roman history. Yet there's so much we don't know due to the dearth of historical documentation. During its short, near-20 year existence, almost no one wrote about their time spent on the Antonine Wall as either a legionary, auxiliary soldier, dependent, or civilian. There is little to be had from contemporary Roman writers. This remains a great mystery to historians and archeologists. As a result, we know little to nothing about actual life on the Antonine Wall. This is a great loss. Perhaps in the decades yet to come some archeological evidence or missing documentation may as yet be unearthed. If an archeologist could unearth someone's diary from his time on the Antonine Wall, it would be priceless. As yet none has been found.
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 7 ай бұрын
Aye, it'd be a dream if they could find something like the Vindoland tablets!
@stephennesbitt6059
@stephennesbitt6059 7 ай бұрын
Never knew of the Antonine Wall,interesting to hear all the theories of why it was built!
@simonclarke2939
@simonclarke2939 7 ай бұрын
Couple of points - Hadrian's Wall has long lengths built in turf rather than stone and the stone foundations of the Antonine wall are not evidence that a stone construction was planned. Stone foundations are fairly common for turf ramparts, they extend the life of the turf rampart by keeping it out of the wet and stopping it from spreading. Did make a good point that by the early 160s the original construction would need reinvestment - decision needed to be made. Also correct to suggest that the Walls have more about control of the occupied territories to the south.
@marvinegreen
@marvinegreen 7 ай бұрын
I visited both walls in 2010. The fort foundation plaque on Hadrian's Wall suggested that an additional Roman motivation was to force merchants through a gate so as to collect taxes.
@BeeHereNowuk
@BeeHereNowuk 7 ай бұрын
That sounds like it makes a lot of sense actually. The Romans loved taxing a bit of trade
@YTC9
@YTC9 7 ай бұрын
@@BeeHereNowuk Before currency was up and running Taxus Baccata the Yew tree was a favoured tax as it disconnected the natives from the land and they're druid ancestry which was believed to give strength bordering on immortality, Taxus is the base compound of lab synthesised chemotherapy today but that's another story. I think there may well be a third less physical more spiritual angle, everything is energy, air, soil, wood but especially rock containing quartz, hence megaliths at altitude, the Romans had to break that energy connection with a higher power that our druid ancestry had and the way they did that was by removing tree's like Yew in particular and building a continuous (very important) wall as a barrier to stop the flow of electro magnetic energy in from the north thus also making the energy within more manageable. In simple terms if you orientate a brass horseshoe with the opening facing north you let the most energy in, if the opening is facing south you let less in and and if you close the gap making a continuous ring you let the least in. Are you able to determine if or not he rock/granite foundation is/was continuous or just partial? Good channel, thanks for that i will follow with interest.
@garethde-witt6433
@garethde-witt6433 6 ай бұрын
It’s sad that the tree has been vandalised
@MrDhalli6500
@MrDhalli6500 6 ай бұрын
Sycamore gap tree?
@Thebrooksable
@Thebrooksable 6 ай бұрын
@@MrDhalli6500yeah I think some teens cut it down if I remember
@alexanderSydneyOz
@alexanderSydneyOz 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, it's just a frigging tree, and it wasn't part of the wall.
@georgeroberts-morehen9147
@georgeroberts-morehen9147 6 ай бұрын
WHAT a Philistine ewe are. A tree that was hundreds of years old, in an unspoiled, by man, part of the British countryside.
@MrDhalli6500
@MrDhalli6500 6 ай бұрын
@@georgeroberts-morehen9147 Do you even speak English? Because I didn't understand a word of what you said.
@johnjones9782
@johnjones9782 6 ай бұрын
The Northern British were not rebels, a free people defending their homeland from a brutal, greedy agressor!
@marcus_Aurelius461
@marcus_Aurelius461 6 ай бұрын
Jon jones?
@angloaust1575
@angloaust1575 6 ай бұрын
After 330 ad when christianity Became legalised by Constantine the gospel Would have reached the heathen scottish tribes!
@thomasdonovan3580
@thomasdonovan3580 6 ай бұрын
The English?
@arturovaldes546
@arturovaldes546 6 ай бұрын
Naked with blue painted pictures on themselves. Can you blame the Roman's for building a wall .
@manuelabertazzoli9295
@manuelabertazzoli9295 6 ай бұрын
It seems to me that the British learned well how to subjugate free people in brutal greedy aggression
@sweb23879
@sweb23879 6 ай бұрын
I like the connection to walls of today, and what they actually mean to a landscape and a populace. The dividing families comment kind of got me; it’s easy to forget that people still loved their relations in antiquity, and that political violence and the violence of borders might tear them apart. Thanks for this video.
@fatfreddyscat2
@fatfreddyscat2 7 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thank you so much!
@keithwalmsley1830
@keithwalmsley1830 7 ай бұрын
Nice one mate, I'm new to your channel and love the content, just watched the 7 episodes of your history of Manchester and loved it!! 👍👍
@jezza1953
@jezza1953 Ай бұрын
another good one from you bud
@Angus-22
@Angus-22 7 ай бұрын
No mention of The Gask Ridge. The forgotten frontier.
@marvinegreen
@marvinegreen 7 ай бұрын
Explain?
@Angus-22
@Angus-22 7 ай бұрын
@@marvinegreen Gask Ridge 79 to 80 AD. 37klm long from The Tay to Glenbank built under orders of Agricola British Governor. Schoolboy History. Does that explain?
@marvinegreen
@marvinegreen 7 ай бұрын
@@Angus-22 I grew up in SA learning about Vasco De Gama and the Boer War...
@marvinegreen
@marvinegreen 7 ай бұрын
@@Angus-22 I looked it up. Greedy Romans. Although, genetically, according to 23andMe - great grandaddy was one of them.
@eleveneleven572
@eleveneleven572 7 ай бұрын
The Romans "retreated" because it was obvious that, compared to what is now England and Wales, the economic possibilities were small. Too dark, too cold, too wet and nowhere near as productive. South of that wall Britain already had extensive agriculture, tin, copper, lead and gold. The weather was good, there was a warm spell that allowed vineyards as far north as Yorkshire. It was business after all. Romans didn't invade for the fun of it. Britain became a bread basket for the empire.
@SMC01ful
@SMC01ful 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I'd love to think it was Brit/Caledonian/Pictish hardness, but nope, Rome's lack of penetration was economic and topographic, with one or two acts of bravery thrown in, i.e., guerilla warfare, sabotage, etc. People forget most of Scotland was densely forrested, some say the thickest in Europe. Lets not mention the swamps, peat bogs, and midges. All of which, when combined with aformentioned lightning attacks by the natives, would lay Severus' invasion low. It's made me rethink the Mon Graupus thing with Agricola, well prior to Severus' invasion. It seems the Romans turned up, had a scrap, but realized the Caledonians/Picts weren't coming down from their forrested hill, and they, being the Romans, certainly weren't keen on going up there. The thinking is, Agricola, knowing the natives coiuldn't sustain armies in the field for very long, went back to the coast and bargained with the tribes individually.
@SlowLane-pv3nf
@SlowLane-pv3nf 6 ай бұрын
And yet they made the attempt.
@eleveneleven572
@eleveneleven572 6 ай бұрын
@@SMC01ful Yes, the Romans went in, had a look around, and took a business decision...risk, expense and little or no reward. That's why they were so successful. The Scotland of those days was heavily forested, little agriculture and resources...plus dark, wet and cold. It was a no brainer.
@orbytl2799
@orbytl2799 2 ай бұрын
@@SlowLane-pv3nf not much of one, as has already been said the land was grim and wasnt fertile and not worth much to them for the effort i know scots like to romanticize that the Romans couldnt take scotland but the reality is they never really wanted to 😁
@Baloski46
@Baloski46 7 ай бұрын
loving your work!
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 7 ай бұрын
AGH.... Lunch break is over, will watch when I get home. Thanks ahead of time..... mike
@Alanvids
@Alanvids 4 ай бұрын
An old (now deceased) friend told me when his father was the local gamekeeper, he would go up to Barhill Fort and it was possible to still draw water from the Roman well. It is filled in now and caged
@MortarIvy
@MortarIvy 3 ай бұрын
The whole ordeal sounds rather unwell
@Alanvids
@Alanvids 3 ай бұрын
@@MortarIvy well I never
@Alanvids
@Alanvids 2 ай бұрын
Put it on your bucket list
@brynvjones6679
@brynvjones6679 7 ай бұрын
Never knew of it. Thanks. Most informative.
@hamshackleton
@hamshackleton 7 ай бұрын
Is this a re-upload, for some reason? I watched it yesterday!
@Fr.FintanStack
@Fr.FintanStack 7 ай бұрын
Yeah there was copyrighted music in the original apparently
@johanneswerner1140
@johanneswerner1140 7 ай бұрын
Drat! That explains it...
@jeffreyhildebrand4387
@jeffreyhildebrand4387 6 ай бұрын
Excellent closing point! Informing the present is why studying history is so important.
@lahoku
@lahoku 6 ай бұрын
He forgot to mention that walls keep others out! Walls are not only for control of those inside as he so greatly suggested.
@fearnpol4938
@fearnpol4938 6 ай бұрын
If the governor of Briton was from Libya and a Berber why show him as black/sub Saharan?
@philipmurphy2
@philipmurphy2 7 ай бұрын
Another great video for sure
@keithattwood59
@keithattwood59 6 ай бұрын
There once was a common culture from the Humber to the Clyde. This was a more natural barrier of its time. Retreat to Hadrian's Wall expanded the influence of the northern tribes.
@terryansell6641
@terryansell6641 6 ай бұрын
Thank you this was so interesting thank you from New Zealand
@wackbatt4746
@wackbatt4746 7 ай бұрын
enjoyed that!
@barrydysert2974
@barrydysert2974 7 ай бұрын
Timely !:-) 🙏
@DanHaug
@DanHaug 7 ай бұрын
Nice video! It's a shame that the lovely sycamore that you had so many shots of is now gone. :( BTW, don't know if you're aware of this, but Sarah Woodbury uses a site near Bar Hill for an ambush in one of her books in the After CIlmeri Series set in the 1280s. I can't remember which book though, maybe Outcasts in Time?
@giuseppemezzetti5326
@giuseppemezzetti5326 6 ай бұрын
Bellissimo. Interessante. Dalle immagini colpisce il rispetto per l'ambiente e per le vestigia del Vallo.
@davidhookway514
@davidhookway514 7 ай бұрын
At that time the tribes between the two walls were Britons, with mostly Pictish tribes to the north.
@VanillaMacaron551
@VanillaMacaron551 7 ай бұрын
Fascinated to hear how quickly both walls were built. They must have been absolute hives of labour and activity during construction, to have been completed in a dozen years or fewer.
@christopherx7428
@christopherx7428 7 ай бұрын
Why would the wall in the east not roughly follow river Carron, to the sea? It seems a lot shorter.
@paulhargreaves9103
@paulhargreaves9103 7 ай бұрын
It was a way to control goods and services…. And therefore minds. Imagine a peasant seeing the wall for the first time.
@mikego18753
@mikego18753 7 ай бұрын
Thumbs up mate.
@MrChintaro
@MrChintaro 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting thank you. What movie is the music from? (or rather what is the music around the eight minute mark?)
@user-jo3gj1jx3e
@user-jo3gj1jx3e 7 ай бұрын
It's from the KZbin audio library - see the introduction notes.
@MrChintaro
@MrChintaro 7 ай бұрын
@@user-jo3gj1jx3e the one I am talking about isn't listed unfortunately.
@RickPop85
@RickPop85 7 ай бұрын
The Gask ridge in Perth shire was the furtherest Northern Roman frontier at one time
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 7 ай бұрын
There's a fort up near Inverness that looks like a Roman fort, but there's further research needed!
@dougalmcdougal8682
@dougalmcdougal8682 6 ай бұрын
Having grown up in the Falkirk / Polmont district the remnants of the wall are pretty easy to find.
@etiennesharp
@etiennesharp 7 ай бұрын
You missed the more impressive bit just a bit south of Camelon at Tamfourhill. Standing on top of the rampart and looking north over the Forth valley shows exactly why it was built.
@martybhoy72
@martybhoy72 6 ай бұрын
I'm wanting to visit the Antonine wall at some point. I've been to part of Hadrian's wall. We stopped off while were returning home to Scotland. Hopefully in 2024.
@SlowLane-pv3nf
@SlowLane-pv3nf 6 ай бұрын
Most of what is still visible was shown in the video, but at Bearsden (near Glasgow) there are some remains of a Roman bath house to see. The Hunterian Museum (Glasgow University) has some of the mile stones and other remains of the Antonine Wall on display.
@stephengeraghty3368
@stephengeraghty3368 6 ай бұрын
Enemy with in great Rush song .At side of the Coloseum in Rome there are stone maps on the wall showing uk and the line where it stops that they invaded to .Other countries maps are on there as well.There was a lot of construction work for the Metro right next to them
@racheltaylor6578
@racheltaylor6578 5 ай бұрын
I was brought up a couple of miles away from Barr Hill fort.
@gijgij4541
@gijgij4541 6 ай бұрын
Was the wall ending at Old Kilpatrick the reason the Erskine Bridge was built?
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 7 ай бұрын
Even the Scots are rediscovering this ancient part of their own history. The medieval Scots incurred hundreds of years of political, diplomatic, and military conflict with the English to the south. Yet for just as long, the ancient Scots and Caledonian tribal peoples confronted an earlier enemy, the Roman Empire. These would-be masters of Scotland hailed across the world in a warm, Mediterranean land called Italia, or, Italy today. But in 142 A.D. as three Roman legions and a large number of auxiliary units marched north, few of these foreign interlopers were actually Italian men from Italia. The Roman emperor's expeditionary army was a polyglot, multi-ethnic mixture of men from Upper Germania, Lower Germania, Transalpine Gaul, Cisalpine Gaul, Spain, Illyria, Noricum, Pannonia, Moesia, Thrace, Syria, brown-skinned men from northern Africa, and dark-skinned men from Mauretania and Nubia, Africa. There were even men from southern Britannia who opted for a well-paying military career in the Roman auxiliary units. The ancient Scottish, Caledonian, and Pict tribal warriors would glare warily at these strange foreign invaders from so many different lands marching under the Roman Eagle. Taken by surprise and disunited at the time, they could not mount a united and concerted resistance to the Romans rapidly throwing up a new frontier border wall right across their traditional tribal lands, some containing valuable agricultural land. But the tribal peoples of the Highlands would not simply roll over and take this new Roman conquest of southern Scotland lying down. The time would come to resist.
@tomcarslaw2117
@tomcarslaw2117 6 ай бұрын
Even the Scots. Meaning?
@orbytl2799
@orbytl2799 2 ай бұрын
yet the reality is the Romans had no interest in the land north of the wall so never really even bothered trying to take it 😆
@robertmaitland09
@robertmaitland09 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting and poignant. Thank you.
@bullfrommull
@bullfrommull 7 ай бұрын
Great video. What about the Gask Ridge. Even further north
@wales1945
@wales1945 5 ай бұрын
Strathclyde was called Ystrad Clud which is Brythonic
@anthonyrader3466
@anthonyrader3466 5 ай бұрын
I dunno. I guess walls can have a sinister purpose. Prisons are surrounded by them. However, walls serve a defensive purpose as well. I don't think everyone in Roman Briton was a slave or even resented the Roman presence over time. Rome brought with it trade and wealth and literally raised the living standards where it went. Walls are a way of establishing secure borders as well. If you look at Hadrian's wall there were all kinds of ports of entry for those in the north and those in the south to come and go, but under the watchful eye of the military just like borders are watched today.
@janmalaszek1459
@janmalaszek1459 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes walls are built to keep people safe. Not all countries are surrounded by water.
@YTC9
@YTC9 7 ай бұрын
I think there may well be a third less physical more spiritual angle, everything is energy, air, soil, wood but especially rock containing quartz, hence megaliths at altitude, the Romans had to break that energy connection with a higher power that our druid ancestry had and the way they did that was by removing tree's like Yew in particular and building a continuous (very important) wall as a barrier to stop the flow of electro magnetic energy in from the north thus also making the energy within more manageable. In simple terms if you orientate a brass horseshoe with the opening facing north you let the most energy in, if the opening is facing south you let less in and and if you close the gap making a continuous ring you let the least in. Are you able to determine if or not he rock/granite foundation is/was continuous or just partial? Good channel, thanks for that i will follow with interest.
@AScottishOdyssey
@AScottishOdyssey 7 ай бұрын
Why did you not stop at Rough Castle? It is a really stunning section of the wall, with the remains of a fort.
@BeeHereNowuk
@BeeHereNowuk 7 ай бұрын
The weather turned on me at that point and my camera didn't like it 😄
@AScottishOdyssey
@AScottishOdyssey 7 ай бұрын
@@BeeHereNowuk It's a shame to hear that. I hope that you get to see it as some point.
@davidbarrass
@davidbarrass 7 ай бұрын
He did, but for some reason he called it Camelon
@AScottishOdyssey
@AScottishOdyssey 7 ай бұрын
@@davidbarrass I think that Camelon is the nearby town.
@davidbarrass
@davidbarrass 7 ай бұрын
@@AScottishOdyssey I was just about to say nah- but you're right, it is close than I reallised. Rough Castle is just easier to get to from Bonnybridge than Camelon. Also there was another Roman fort at Camelon, situated just north of the wall and pre-dating it, so that one is the one mormally refered to as Camelon roman fort.
@glynluff2595
@glynluff2595 6 ай бұрын
I see what you are saying about the view but would it have been so in its day? Many seem to feel that the area that is now Scotland had a high incidence of oak forests which would have reduced vision where below tree line. So would it be fair to say much of todays view would not have been visible?
@shaneclaridge2308
@shaneclaridge2308 7 ай бұрын
Love the chat about walls ,always about control.
@mrmarmellow563
@mrmarmellow563 7 ай бұрын
NO 👎 TIS #SHAMEFull To Link Ancient Picts wit #NOBLE 🫒🫒Farming 🆓#🅿️ALISTINE🏝️🫒☪️🕌
@JPMitreN
@JPMitreN 6 ай бұрын
Wonder why the Romans didn’t use the stones from Hadrian’s wall to build Antonian’s wall?
@craigix
@craigix 6 ай бұрын
Far too far to carry them. They used local quarries. Also the wall was notoriously well stuck together, even in the 1400s when they were taking it down for use elsewhere they still had issues breaking it up due to the roman cement/concrete being rock solid 1000 years later!
@matthews4159
@matthews4159 7 ай бұрын
good new production values . conflict & human race,, walls ,,, then & today
@cdybft9050
@cdybft9050 7 ай бұрын
Mine fields are better.
@dimsum435
@dimsum435 6 ай бұрын
I doubt that either the Antonine or Hadrian wall would have held up a rufty tufty trouble maker for more than five minutes. However, get rufty tufty on the south side of the wall and the Romans would settle your hash pronto. More of a 'my house--my rules' kind of a wall.
@user-ht9jw5mo4s
@user-ht9jw5mo4s 6 ай бұрын
Looks like a decent golf course.
@gijgij4541
@gijgij4541 6 ай бұрын
Why spoil such a good walk?
@bobblue_west
@bobblue_west 6 ай бұрын
Enjoyed greatly. Thoughts while watching: i) Seeing the maps, I always thought it odd the Romans didn't invade Ireland. A short hop considering the distances they travelled. ii) Nationals Walls - mostly to keep people out. You showed Belfast suburbs and E. Jerusalem. There are miles of walls on the eastern side of European countries to keep out migrants. Same with the US/Mexico wall Trump started and Biden stopped. It sure ain't to keep hoards of people from the US fleeing to Mexico. Egypt has a wall across Southern Gaza to keep the Gazans out of Egypt - they've said so. And so on.
@simonfunwithtrains1572
@simonfunwithtrains1572 7 ай бұрын
I have just been reading a book about the Antonine Wall from the history of England in the north by Brian Groom. A very interesting book, which I expect you are already aware of. Thank you. for another interesting video. J&S
@robinmcewan8473
@robinmcewan8473 7 ай бұрын
Do you mean the history of Britain?
@troyfrei2962
@troyfrei2962 6 ай бұрын
Have you use a metal detector on the road (or other parts)?
@kevwhufc8640
@kevwhufc8640 6 ай бұрын
I have a metal detector and use it on lands around verulamium, I have a decent collection of Roman coins, silver and bronze ones . Plus artifacts, such as small bronze animals, owl, a dolphin's head, a couple of finger rings, Plus coins etc from other eras , post Roman up to the present. Although for every 'good historical' find , we dig up 30 bits of trash , such as tabs from old Coke cans ,and other modern junk . It's a good hobby when the weather's nice .
@troyfrei2962
@troyfrei2962 6 ай бұрын
@@kevwhufc8640 Great!
@DukeJon1969
@DukeJon1969 6 ай бұрын
Still waiting for reparations from Italy. Also owed by Normandy.
@paulbennett772
@paulbennett772 2 ай бұрын
Glad that you didn't repeat the old canard that Hadrian's Wall was a barrier - it was more a Customs point where passage was controlled. Otherwise, why build holes in it?!
@kevinjamesparr552
@kevinjamesparr552 6 ай бұрын
Hadrian built a token wall only.The Empire was peaceful no work for his army .So he brought his troops to build wall to keep them occupied. Only Antonys wall was intended as border marker
@alexanderSydneyOz
@alexanderSydneyOz 6 ай бұрын
Hadrian's Wall was hardly "token", and your dismissive description is simplistic and unrealistic. Try WP for a basic but sensible understanding
@kevwhufc8640
@kevwhufc8640 5 ай бұрын
@kevinjamespan552 Hadrians wall was never a token wall , before it was built the land and geology was studied and chosen for two main reasons, 1, is the narrowest part of the island, 2, its built along a natural geological faultline that rises higher than the northern side. So it made sense to build a wall along a natural ridge, when approaching from the north side it's an impressive structure. But the reason it was built was to denote where the Roman empire ended... The antonine was a token wall , built of mud and turf with a ditch. A pointless waste of time imo
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 6 ай бұрын
They seem to be implying that the Romans manned both walls at the same time, when you say it was more expensive.I had always assumed, based on nothing, that when they moved to the northern, shorter wall, they would save money. Did they man them both at the same time.
@georgeroberts-morehen9147
@georgeroberts-morehen9147 6 ай бұрын
NO they didn't. EVENTUALLY the Antonine Wall was abandoned in favour of Hadrian's Wall. 357 years the Roman Occupation of Southern & Middle Britain lasted. AMAZING in the equivalent time back to the time of the Great Fire of London & CIR in 1666.
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 6 ай бұрын
@@georgeroberts-morehen9147 You seem so angry, and you didn't even seem to address my question. Sad.
@georgeroberts-morehen9147
@georgeroberts-morehen9147 6 ай бұрын
@@PtolemyJones ANGRY? I'M not repeating myself. 🤔
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 6 ай бұрын
@@georgeroberts-morehen9147 caps are internet speak for yelling, so yes, angry. And you don't need to repeat yourself, you already repeated the content of the video. What you did not adress was my question; when the Antonine wall was manned, did they still man Hadrians?
@georgeroberts-morehen9147
@georgeroberts-morehen9147 6 ай бұрын
@@PtolemyJones 😴😴😴
@bobb1870
@bobb1870 7 ай бұрын
True, walls are designed to keep people in and out. The American border wall, is designed to do exactly just that.
@jimmcfarlane5611
@jimmcfarlane5611 2 ай бұрын
The Romans had trouble with the Scottish Accent 😂
@glen1555
@glen1555 7 ай бұрын
Have visited parts of the lesser known Antonine Wall. Is not well preserved as you show in your video
@AScottishOdyssey
@AScottishOdyssey 7 ай бұрын
There's the Bearsden Roman Baths, the section that you can visit at New Kilpatrick Cemetery, Barhill, Croy Hill, Rough Castle, Watling Street (Falkirk). It may not be as well preserved as Hadrians Wall, but there are still really good sections that you can visit.
@henka899
@henka899 6 ай бұрын
Interesting that north of England there was northern Britain. Is there a southern Britain also?
@jh-ec7si
@jh-ec7si 5 ай бұрын
Great Britain is the island they're on
@wales1945
@wales1945 5 ай бұрын
Yes Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@wales1945
@wales1945 5 ай бұрын
Edinburgh castle was called Castle Rock
@comentedonakeyboard
@comentedonakeyboard 7 ай бұрын
The costs of the wall caused a long lasting aversion against wastefull expenditures among the local Population.
@ferness261
@ferness261 6 ай бұрын
How many times? It's Came-lon, not Cam-eh-lon.
@MortarIvy
@MortarIvy 3 ай бұрын
Hadrian’s Wall succeeded because Hadrian oversaw it himself (a renowned engineer). The Antonine wall failed because it was phoned in long distance. (Edited: spelling error)
@harrisonofthenorth
@harrisonofthenorth 6 ай бұрын
I was a bit horrified that in the title you referred to we indigenous natives as rebels :D
@Farmer-bh3cg
@Farmer-bh3cg 6 ай бұрын
Hadrians wall may have been meant to prevent escape of brigands to the Lowlands. However, after 100-150 years of Roman rule Britannia was far more settled and civilized than it would be 1,000 years later. It doesn't seem if the presenters view of keeping people IN to subjugate them is entirely correct. After 4-5 generations, the wild tribes would have been largely civilized and Romanized until the abandonment of Britain around 450AD. Hadrian's Wall would still protect against the northern tribes all along. And again, as the presenter said, it always did mark the effecti9ve northern border of the Empire.
@scottwaldie4979
@scottwaldie4979 5 ай бұрын
Control the rebels of northern Britain? What are you on?
@mariadespina80
@mariadespina80 Ай бұрын
BANNA ! The Dacians Fort on the wall of Hadrian. Banna-Birdoswald, Britannia-UK. BANNA - In Northumbria - the largest and oldest fort of the sixteen inscribed along the wall, the best preserved, with most vestiges, the only inhabited, and after the breakdown of the Roman empire, long after, by the descendants of those soldiers coming from Dacia . Banna! ... Birdoswald, as the Englishmen baptized it . This fortress was built and inhabited by 1000 soldiers from COHORS I AELIA DACORUM , recruited by the Roman Emperor Hadrian from Dacia ( actual Romania) at 120-125 AC , to fight against Scottish, Iuti and Picti from the north. After the Dacian wars (101-102 and 105-106), the Roman Empire used Dacian cohorts (military units of 500-1000 soldiers) throughout the Empire, archaeological discoveries pointing to their presence both in the United Kingdom today and in Turkey . '' '' They were remarkable warriors. They fought without fear of death and died laughing because they believed that their souls were immortal. The title "Aelia" itself was a great honor, for it derives from the entire name of Emperor Hadrian, a name that could be won only because of a military or cultural service out of the ordinary. At first they were sent to the Wall, in an outpost called Bewcastle, to fight first with the barbarian tribes. Send somehow to the sacrifice. At a fort located in an open, wilderness, without a wall, without forests, without anything around. That, precisely because they knew their courage and devotion in the fight. They were supposed to die, but they did not die. Then they came here to Banna, and they lived here until the end. They got lands, rights, ranks. They have remained forever there in their city. Yes. They were undoubtedly among the best fighters brought here to fight at Hadrian's wall. These are facts, certainties, "says the archaeologist Robin Birley ''' , British archaeologist Director of Excavations at the Roman site of Vindolanda and head of the Vindolanda research committee . The Dacians, the Romanians ancestors..
@derekweir7692
@derekweir7692 6 ай бұрын
Hadrians wall where Nigel heritage want you to pay for parking out in the middle of nowhere.
@jonathanchester5916
@jonathanchester5916 7 ай бұрын
Hadrian, US, Israel, the wall building nonsense never ends. Maybe eventually we will all learn not to hate one another so much. Judging from the petty comments below, perhaps not any time soon. Sheesh.
@bobblue_west
@bobblue_west 6 ай бұрын
(wall building nonsense never ends.) Naive comment. You must be young. Walls have been with humans as long as there have been humans.
@ghostlyimageoffear6210
@ghostlyimageoffear6210 6 ай бұрын
Build the effing walls, we're being overrun by invading hordes!
@paulalexander8874
@paulalexander8874 7 ай бұрын
Camelon - pronounced "Kemlin"... Don't ask! 😂
@BeeHereNowuk
@BeeHereNowuk 7 ай бұрын
Ugh there's always one thing I pronounce wrong per video 😄
@paulalexander8874
@paulalexander8874 7 ай бұрын
@@BeeHereNowuk I honestly wouldn't worry about this one. I grew up an hour away and only found out after an embarrassing conversation when I was 30 and I still think they were taking the piss!
@TheDickPuller
@TheDickPuller 6 ай бұрын
A couple of popular misconceptions; Empires like the Ottoman, Roman & British etc etc were not conquered lands, a superior force of people just Traded with the locals & moved in to control trade in these areas. Most, if not all the Land was controlled by local tribal chiefs, who were easy to persuade with luxury goods they’d never seen before. Uprisings, were rare. Famously, a Small African country was overseen by only two British Civil servants in the late 19th century. The Romans settled in many parts of Scotland, there’s a story, though fairly difficult to believe, but that Pontius Pilatus, was born in Perthshire Scotland. There’s evidence of Roman Settlements in Aberdeenshire. Also, there’s a very visible Roman Bathhouse In Strathclyde Park south of Glasgow. The Romans were settled in Scotland for a number of years, without question.
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