The SECRETS of the ACOLYTE Premiere! A Dyad? Sith in Plain Sight? WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FIRE??

The ACOLYTE kicks us off with layers and layers of INTRIGUE! But... is it really the fresh new Star Wars take we were hoping for?
Let us know YOUR thoughts in the comments down below!
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[@jithwheels]

I am so glad that I’m finding some amazing new SW channels after the acolyte premier. I really liked your discussion. I think Qimir could possibly be one of the three characters 1) the Sith master (probability < 10%) 2) the Sith apprentice (probability > 50%) 3) a Sith acolyte of higher standing than mae (probability > 40 %) The word “Qimir” seems like a cognate of **chimaera**. Per Greek mythology, a chimaera is a mythical beast that can “breathe FIRE”. ***It looks like a lion, with a GOAT’s head protruding from its back. In other depictions, it also has a snakes head.*** The name implies deception, could be interpreted as hiding in plain sight (lion and goat) and also strength/evil/danger. So far the names in the acolyte seem to have specific implications that shed more light on the plot. Sol : sun in Latin Jecki lon~ lun(a) : moon in Latin Yord Fandar ~ jord : earth in old Norse Mae~ maestitia : dullness, gloom, sadness, sorrow and grief in Latin Osha~ usha : bright, dawn, shining, burning in Sanskrit Torbin ~ Þor-björn: thunder-bear in Norse (Invokes a ferocious fighter or a terrible act/event- the scarring and him taking the barash vow are consistent with that) And finally Qimir ~ chimaera : sneaky (?), dangerous (?) **Either Qimir played a role in the twin’s past (responsible for the horrific fire ~ fire theme) and/or is the origin of conflict in the present day(lion in the shape of a goat).** I’m pretty sure the actual dark lord of the sith (the Sith master) is not in the first season. It’s heavily implied by headland that the dark force user in the promos and the first episode is the sith APPRENTICE. This tells me, either that Qimir is the Sith apprentice masquerading as another acolyte with Mae, or is indeed an acolyte of higher standing with the sith. Another speculation of mine is that mae will be successful in killing kelnacca without a weapon. Sounds fantastic, I know- but for sol to die in an impactful way, she’d probably need a lightsaber of her own. I think she gets her sith lightsaber after kelnacca’s death. Keep up the good work, fellas

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Great insight!! Thanks for sharing!! I think you’re right that the Sith Master will likely not be revealed until very late in the season or not at all. Could leave the door open for some EU nods, but we’ll see!

[@8bitbeardco]

Their channel has been amazing from the very beginning......always amazing discussion and they counterpoint each other really well. Welcome!

[@michaelcramer_98]

33:07 Too add to your point Konnor it’s amazing, that in the First 10-15 minutes of the first episode that they were already trying to cover up that Jedi’s Murder. It comes to show you that the Jedi at that point in time were so unstable.

[@andrewg4639]

I’m just gonna drop that it is refreshing that you guys have a much more positive place to discuss SW over others on the internet that either love everything too much or is just all hate. You have healthy discussions, logical well thought out point of views, even if I don’t agree with everything, which is OK.

[@michaelcramer_98]

13:36 it was also pretty neat to hear the Cato Neimodioans mention the Trade Federation.

[@Fedaygin]

Yes it was & the way they reacted when saw beautifuuuul Jedi ship 😋 I hope Kelnacca survives this week's episode.. 🤞 Streaming at D+ 🙂

[@Fedaygin]

El Excellente 🙂 Some good things talked here. Happy to hear more after third episode has landed into Disney+ 🙂 Last night i restreamed S01E02 & really wanna restream soon again before zz starting 2am ^^ I'm hoping that Kelnacca survives S01E03 & look forward to more screen time of Jecki & Zyggerian Jedi. Yord is cool & so is Sol. That unarmed close combat between Sol & Mae is a nice scene 🙂 Yord lighting up the area with Lightsaber is good way & facehuggah V2 was a nice touch. Just as Leslye told in interview that there will be some darker elements 🙂 May you have good relaxing time with S01 via D+ & stay well ^^

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

So glad you’re enjoying it!!

[@Fedaygin]

@@BeyondTheDuneSea Thank you & may you both have the same experience as beautiful S01 rolls forward 🤞

[@michaelcramer_98]

2:18 we will always support you guys no matter what decision you both agree on. You guys are one of the best Star Wars content creators!

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

❤️

[@michaelcramer_98]

@@BeyondTheDuneSea 🤟🏻❤️

[@elcantantedecorcho]

Thanks for the call out in the comments guys! Means a lot, you are my friends, feels like a conversation jejejejeje!

[@googlewasouridea]

Great to have some real criticism and not just Disney hate. The plot is intriguing. Your discussion was eye-opening.

[@bdub1934]

Dude this show is trash! have you watched it?

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Appreciate you!!

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Let people like things. It’s okay if you didn’t like it

[@CheriZen]

I think both sisters might actually be one physical person with two spirits living inside. The one who died may have bonded with the living one in the force. It may also have something to do with Abeloth. The current main Sith's mask has a mask similar to the entity's appearance. The witch coven may be a cult dedicated to her. The Sith may be Abeloth herself. It may be the Mirialan that everyone hates. She seems so misplaced. That's a long shot however

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Definitely agree, the Abeloth connections seem deliberate. We will see!!

[@8bitbeardco]

Seth chose the little droid as his favorite character and that 1:25:47 speaks volumes about this show so far. 😂😂

[@talesoftheforce]

Sith double life as a Jedi pulling strings 😳. Love it! Great discussion.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Thanks for popping in!

[@SpaceBearUnlimited]

Fun episode. Lots of good stuff in here that I wasn’t thinking about.

[@michaelcramer_98]

46:20 maybe those dathormi witches that we saw in the Trailer for acolyte saved Mae’s Life and introduced her to the Masked Sith Lord

[@michaelcramer_98]

45:11 not to mention Indara Reaction when she saw Mae in the Cantina.

[@katanaridingremy]

Really great show, you have my subscription! So refreshing to have real criticism and not just Disney + minorities = bad. The show has room to improve but I thought it was mostly fun

[@bdub1934]

did you even watch it? It's really bad and race has nothing to do with it

[@katanaridingremy]

@@bdub1934 I watched it, did you read what I wrote. It was fun and it mostly came down to nitpicking finding something to not like. What didn't you like about it

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Thank you so much! There’s so much division and hate in the community right now. It sucks to see. Our policy on the show has always been to be kind and when we have criticism to give it with grace. Thanks for tuning in!

[@lustrazor44]

It’s poorly written, poorly paced, poorly acted. Race has nothing to do with it. People like you just don’t listen to any criticism then just call everyone racist or sexist. It’s not a good show at all. The editing is sloppy, the plot is predictable, the characters are bland, the writing is sub par, the pacing is way off etc.

[@XAQ_UH_TAQ]

(Forgive me if you did answer this in the past and I missed it, or answer it at the end of this video, am currently watching it LOL) Hey, Konnor and Seth! I just wanted to say I found you guys through your last video (Villains Tier List) loved what I was watching so much I went back to your first videos and managed to marathon them all in only a few days. Your skits are visually impressive, funny, and really creative! I love the positivity and acceptance of others' Star Wars opinions (some people have trouble with that from time to time LOL) You both have a unique charm that made me want to hear more from both of you. I believe you guys have mentioned other channels, I looked and didn't find any, just wanted some clarification if you both have your own person channels or another shared channel, unless I just imagined you guys said that. And if this channel is truly all you guys got going right now, that just baffles me, because of the quality and engaging banter and sense of professionalism you both have, you both give off having prior experience in something like this, so I was just curious. If somehow, someway this is the only thing you guys have going, you'll have a much larger following by the end of the year, I'd bet money on that. Anyways, you guys are awesome, keep up the rad content! And May the Force Be With You ... Always.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Zach (Konnor here), thank you so much for your comment. I made sure Seth saw it too and I can’t tell you the smile it brought to us. Made our week! As of now, yep this is all we’ve got going! Seth and I both come from filmmaking backgrounds so this isn’t our first attempt at making videos and stuff like this. Thanks so much for tuning in and commenting! We’re so glad you’re here!

[@XAQ_UH_TAQ]

⁠@@BeyondTheDuneSea(Hey Konnor! Congrats on the new kid, man!) Wow okay, film making background makes a lot of sense. I’m an aspiring writer/filmmaker and hope to even produce Star Wars fan films on KZbin myself one day. (You guys actually inspired me into an idea for a Star Wars related video, not sure when I’d get to making it but yeah, thanks for that lol) Anyways, great stuff, hope I can catch a live stream sometime!

[@nocturnenoble2468]

After spending a significant time sifting through bigotry it was a sincere relief to find your open and considered opinions, thank you.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

❤️

[@ggleam88]

Great episode!

[@8bitbeardco]

Thanks for breaking this down fellas. So far I feel underwhelmed by a lot of this story----similar to the Kenobi first two episodes. I actually thought most of the set design was just that......a set.....where as in Mandolorian, Andor, Kenobi and Ahsoka you actually never felt it was an actual set. Just a feeling.....and then in the third episode (semi-spoiler) when the wookie is by the speeder.....you can totally tell that is a giant cavas painting behind him....stands out like crazy. So far the sets have been underwhelmed and you don't feel like you are actually in a different world if that makes sense. The dialogue contradicts itself in the same episodes......Mae says "only a JEDI draws it's blade with an intent to kill".....then the yellow lightsaber young dude lights up his saber like 5x after that in the episode...haha The Jedi definitely feel like a Police Force and Child Protection Services. Character development will come I know......but it still didn't happen in the E3.....like why does Sol feel so connected to this young girl he does't really know?!?!? Interesting for sure to see how this will develop. So far I am underwhelmed and is prob the worst show they have put out.....will continue to watch.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Dude I’m totally with you. The contradictions in the dialogue are EVERYWHERE. And I can’t figure out if that’s intentional. Hoping the series improves but so far… it’s just not hitting for me

[@michaelcramer_98]

0:50 love the new introduction

[@elcantantedecorcho]

I believe that Mae survived the presumed dead and was cured or saved by the Sith master, who lie to here and told her that her sister is dead and that she killed her in the fire, similar to Lord Sidious telling Anakin that he killed Padme. Is interesting to me that only Yord draws his light saber in a menacing way, when supposedly Jedi's only draw them to kill or for defense. We have to be careful with this super correct characters, he may be hiding something. Qimir is my choice to be the Sith, but maybe he is the apprentice and some one else is his Master, Mae is just a tool.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

A lot of interesting ideas! Great call out about Yord drawing his saber. Definitely an interesting detail…

[@bc_scrubs217]

Great show lads, I enjoyed the Acolyte and the return to practical effects. I’m with you re: Yord being painful but I think he’s deliberately being painful and he’s playing the role of “stickler for the rules Jedi” as I think it’ll be revealed he’s the Sith Master. I still think there’s a twist with Mae and Osha and they may be one person & that Yord defending Osha was him covering his potential apprentices tracks…

[@Steve-zc3rg]

Nice balanced episode centric from guys that like the subject and hope it will deliver. Nice work guys

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Thank you!!

[@TheDravensixx]

On the Jedi robes, In the high republic books the fancy white robes are used in the temple kind of like ceremonial or stately dress and they have the more toned down everyday style Jedi apparel for missions and normal dress if I’m remembering the books correctly

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Oh now that’s fascinating! They did something similar here in the show when Sol changed his clothes before going on a mission

[@jithwheels]

@@BeyondTheDuneSeaThe white and gold are formal ceremonial robes, while the brown and gold are for when they’re in the field. But these robes are mainly worn by the Jedi based in coruscant or other temples, not the outposts. The Jedi located at the outposts wear robes that are more akin to the attire of the prequel era Jedi like indara in the first scene.

[@blech71]

Timestamps in the general info would be nice to have my doods! Great show here as it’s my first time exposed to it. Def subbed!

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Thank you!! Appreciate the feedback. We’ve experimented with chapters in the past but I always thought they spoiled too much. I’ll look into trying them again with a different approach!

[@damiendehorn6350]

The Acolyte story in my opinion is based around the the Medieval Inquisition plot line with revenge (kill bill) and twins (frozen). In my take these young Jedi zealots come across a village of witches that practice a form of the force that they consider an abomination, while looking for force sensitive children. The witches refuse to let these kids go with the Jedi, and resist. The Jedi, burns the village with all the witches to cleanse it, and Torbin is unable to bear the guilt.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Oh now that’s an interesting take!

[@TheDravensixx]

Maybe it was just me but when we first see the Wookiee, didn’t he look like Bigfoot? The sort of Mohawk ponytail made his head look very pointy in the long shot lol

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Haha a little bit, yeah! Maybe that was intentional with them being in the woods

[@AngelHernandez-tn4re]

they should do beans story!!! and doesn't Maes master look like kylo wren? maybe the original wren?

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Beans??? And we thought that as well! Definitely has a knight of Ren vibe to it

[@thejuansnow]

Ani was around 22 when he became a knight

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Yes 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m a dummy

[@thejuansnow]

@BeyondTheDuneSea nah not a dummy

[@starwarssith66]

So Seth hates Qui Gon, Darth Maul, and Cad Bane wow. Does Seth even Star War?

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

He really likes Babu Frik

[@starwarssith66]

@@BeyondTheDuneSea we all should love Babu!

[@jacobwilliamson2370]

Hey guys! Just wanted to say thanks for the effort you put into each episode! Your videos are a highlight of my week. The way you two think about and discuss SW is very similar to how I feel about it, but I don’t have many friends that are as invested as I am so it’s nice to have a community to be a part of. Thank you for the community you’ve created and for the other creators you’ve introduced me too! May the Force be with you, always.

[@famousthaneus9810]

I honestly feel like Yord is, at the very least, connected to the guy behind the mask. Like he's just too keen on (conveniently) observing everything from afar and his demeanor overall just feels shady.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

I think that’s interesting. someone else pointed out to us that they make a point to say they Jedi only draw their sabers when they’re willing to kill, but Yord draws his before an altercation even begins. Could be something there

[@famousthaneus9810]

⁠@@BeyondTheDuneSeaHe’s also the only one to appear shirtless, and the only people I’ve ever seen shirtless in Star Wars have been connected to/having an internal struggle with the Dark Side (Anakin & Kylo)🤷🏾‍♂️. That logic’s more of a joke than anything, but time shall tell

[@VIBEROCKS96]

Super late but I get the joke of Osha, I said it’s the origin story of labor laws

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Hahahaha

[@kumarg3598]

So Mae is Sallie mae?

[@RiceDaddy07]

So did Torbin eat and poop during his ten years of meditation?

[@Fedaygin]

It wasn't constant meditating for ten years.

[@Viper_75th_RR]

It looks like a CW show. I like the premise of a show from the dark side perspective, but this isn’t it. But I also hated the sequel trilogy.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

I wasn’t a fan of the ST either, personally. But I don’t get CW vibes from this show. There are definitely “TV” looking shots but I thought it looked pretty decent for the most part.

[@Viper_75th_RR]

@@BeyondTheDuneSeaI thought it looked cheap. Plus, depicting the Jedi as cops and Department of Labor enforcers was also incredibly stupid. I see why they named one of the twins OSHA: Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

[@Scottadamsfan3481]

Sad seeing these shills

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Same 😔

[@Scribbles69]

Ya I feel like the music is the weakest aspect of the show doesn't really seem like they made strong themes for characters

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Maybe that’s it, that the characters don’t have strong recognizable themes for me

[@Scribbles69]

@BeyondTheDuneSea ya its all just kinda ambient noice

[@Fedaygin]

Composer for beautiful The Acolyte Live Act show is very talented. I look forward to more Ear Massage during S01 when streaming at D+ ^^ In first 2x episodes there are some parts that tickle earways 😋

[@QuinlanVoss.]

Yellow lightsabers are soooo dumb lmao.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Me 🤝 Quinlan Voss Hating yellow lightsabers

[@MortisFM]

Yellow sabers are goated, YA HATERS

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

Rare @MortisFM L. You hate to see it 😔

[@MortisFM]

@@BeyondTheDuneSea imagine hating a lightsaber color and you’re supposed to be the Jedi on this show! Blaster shill if I’ve ever seen one

[@Wizard_Pikachu]

I really wanna watch it, but everything I'm hearing is that its just trash and so many plot contrivances.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

There’s so many insane takes and opinions on this show out there, a lot from people who haven’t even watched it. My advice would be to give it a shot and decide for yourself. And if you don’t like it, that’s totally cool. The worst thing I can say about it right now is it’s kind of bland to me at moments.

[@jonathanacacia257]

It's very clear that they're going to play off of some lame colonizer story where the Jedi outpost wiped out some witch order that the twins were a part of and thats who's she's out to get revenge on.

[@alasdairboswell4654]

I mean Star Wars has always been about the Rebels going up against the evil colonialist Empire sooooo 🤣

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

That’s interesting. I could see them going that angle. I’m not sure that would be a bad thing in this case if played right. We’ll have to wait and see

[@jithwheels]

Newsflash buddy, that’s what Star Wars has always been about.

[@thejuansnow]

So...star wars lmao

[@WonderingDisneyParks]

Who do you love more Yord or Jar Jar Binks? Also with all this WOKE talk would not be surprising if the new Sith / evil being is female! Not a male Sith.

[@bdub1934]

This show is 100% garbage. Feels like it was wrote by a 5th grader

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

I’m sorry you feel that way. I think it’s alright so far

[@Fedaygin]

​@@BeyondTheDuneSea Yes it's el bueno and written by same person who wrote Amazing Russian Doll Telly show. If you haven't seen it then i recommend stream time for that nice telly show. Woop S01E03 of Beautiful The Acolyte on this week via D+ 🙂

[@EF-fc4du]

No interest in DEI Star Wars.

[@JediMassa]

I would like to say I’m enjoying it…but the outside discourse and clips of interviews has put a cloud over this show.

[@BeyondTheDuneSea]

I totally get that. The discourse alone has been a real bummer.

[@bretkester8316]

@@BeyondTheDuneSea100% agree. This last week’s episode was horrible from the outside…noise…. Before it even aired.

[@lustrazor44]

I wish I could get excited for such low quality content. This show has terrible writing, pacing, editing, the characters are bricks, etc. it’s just not good. How in the world did this cost $180m? Where did the money go?