The Secrets of the Golemancer - Necromancer Skill Guide [ Golems ]

[@Alzorath]

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[@tdub9965]

I've always thought that the fire golem should have cannot be frozen. I mean.... he's literal fire

[@kafrikotroll8610]

Amen to that 👍

[@stofsk]

that's such an underrated point, they shouldn't be able to be poisoned either. They should also have a constant Blaze effect active that pools into a firewall effect when they're standing still.

[@Trojianmaru]

@@stofsk tbf, the skeletons and all the Golems shouldn't be able to be poisoned. They don't have any organs. At most, I would say maybe the blood Golem should be able to be poisoned, but that's it. But that would be pretty op

[@Людмила-з1т7я]

Hey. Blood Golem is amficryed fire/lightning resists.

[@zach11241]

Poison is fine because some poisons can melt bone.

[@MagicE13]

They really need to think about giving the Golems a few skills or chance on hits, I'm just throwing out a few ideas - Clay Golem - Bash, Stun or Knockback, 5% Crushing Blow. Blood Golem - Bone Armour on summon, 5% Bone Spear on hit or 10% Teeth, Corpse Explosion on death. Iron Golem - Blade Barrier on summon. Fire Golem - Rework into Elemental Golem Fire, Frost or Lightning on Summon like the Skele Mages.

[@PH03NIX96]

They need to do what they did with Druid, let us have all golems out at once. Along with skeles and mages and revives if we wanna do a full summon build.

[@Fakeslimshady]

no

[@SelevanRsC]

No f that

[@dgunn4408]

Am I remembering this right: The exploit with blood golem wayyy back was that if you cast iron maiden on a pack, the returned damage registered as if the golem had done that damage in an attack and therefore leeched life from it; making the necro functionally immortal as long as the golem was surrounded.

[@Alzorath]

pretty much (was a little more complex than that, but that was the general mechanic, yes) - you were pretty much immortal unless focused down by ranged/elemental damage.

[@skysoldier29]

Thanks for the info. The fire golem is best in slot for a summoner. Bramble on merc gives it thorns aura. Bosses already do 4x dmg to it and with its fire aura it holds aggro. So when the bosses attack it they do 4x their damage to it which is multiplied by thorns aura and reflected back to the boss. Ez mode. Works best on players 8.

[@Forty2de]

Pet the golem. Golem is my best friend.

[@SamanthaVimes177]

The understated point from this guide for new players is that in online play the iron golem is huge help with leveling. You can easily find a Immortal Kings Maul or other similar high damage weapons with high crushing blow or other helpful perks that will allow the golem to just go around 1-shotting enemies - the perfect setup for corpse explosion. This combo can help you power through normal and nightmare in no time flat.

[@BPTVSleepyPanda]

Immortal Kings set weapon requires lvl 76 and does not drop anywhere in normal mode. How is that useful for finishing normal?

[@SamanthaVimes177]

@@BPTVSleepyPanda it's a tip for online play where these items are often just randomly tossed on the ground in free games or easily traded for. You're right it's obviously unhelpful for single player.

[@BlaX613]

Fire Golem is very useful in PvP to accompany the Poisonmancer cos his Holy Fire Aura can kill a Player with 1hp easily just by being near them

[@TheGhjgjgjgjgjg]

Oooooooo look at me with my tactical thinky brain, big man!

[@HidaMan]

They really need to show some more love to golems. I have always wanted to do a heavily golem-centric build, but as it is now, that really can't make it all the way.

[@raphaelantoine7331]

To think that golems are the only summons(with Valkyrie) where you can spend 100 skill points to boost them and they still aren't able to kill basic monsters quite fast

[@mrhappystore8611]

I’m more curious about +6% damage per level from fire and when it applies to iron golem.

[@Alzorath]

(Golem Base Damage + Weapon Damage) * (sum of all off-weapon % Damage Sources)

[@mrhappystore8611]

@@Alzorath I did some testing on Maxroll d2planner now the question is if fire is a 1 point wonder or 20 point investment to double iron golem damage.

[@Alzorath]

@@mrhappystore8611 really, for most players - you'll only want 20 points in golem mastery, and 1 point in the golems you plan to use. There are niche "gimmick" builds that do the 20 in Fire Golem route, but they're more challenge builds (ie Golemancer) - rather than actual main stream builds.

[@mrhappystore8611]

@@Alzorath I feel like it fits into fishymancer nicely just min max between golem mastery and fire. D2 planner had it change from 779 with thresher obedience to over 2k with 20 points in fire and might aura. To me that’s a second merc and the power behind fishy.

[@Alzorath]

the real catch is their chance to hit, and the attack delay :( - they absolutely can bring stuff down though.

[@MrJueKa]

Although activated, I cannot trigger the skill "clay golem" and thus cannot summon this golem, not even with any "F" key. Have I missed something?

[@Alzorath]

Not sure what could be causing that - though it is a right click only skill.

[@MrJueKa]

@@Alzorath I've experimented with it again and now I've found out that I have to right-click on a corpse for the golem either, just like when summoning skeleton servants. Sometimes I'm just too stupid. An "F" key has nothing to do with it other than selecting a certain skill for the bar.

[@ohtheforlanity3205]

To me, the slows target on a Clay Golem makes them the most useful, cheap (in comparison) to cast too. Unless you can burn runes on an Iron Golem then I can't see how the others are viable at the moment

[@bobnewkirk7003]

I love the slow, Decrep + clay golem on Baal drops his attack speed so low that his attacks timeout before they finish. It would be laughable if it didn't take 10m for a summoner to burn his enormous health pool...

[@Alzorath]

Iron can also be useful made out of trash, if you need something a bit more damaging, but yea - clay is my favored one (I do sometimes use Fire in Cows though to draw them in for CE, since I don't need the clay slow)

[@Aliceinchains1234]

blood golem is amazing now for survability. Namely HC. If he hits something it's basically like a rej potion healing you.

[@MephProduction]

@@Aliceinchains1234 plus he does so much more damage when clay, noting slower than a dead demon.. and clays slow ability does nothing unless you're gong to waste so many points in him.

[@windwalkerrangerdm]

One interesting use for fire golem was for poison builds. You basicslly dropped enemy players to 1 hp and then popped a fire golem to deal the final damage.

[@greatdude7279]

PVP only in PVM monsters die from poision.

[@windwalkerrangerdm]

@@greatdude7279 yep, only players.

[@bobnewkirk7003]

As with many of the other skills in the Necro kit, there is so much wasted potential here. Normally I only get points in a golem just to get down to Summon Resist or Revive and forget about it after popping my clay golem once per game. imo the two issues with golems are first their damage on hit, and second the lack of any meaningful synergies. I mentioned it in the CE video, but I would love to see a fire centric build that synergized Fire golem, CE and LR while leaning on the Trang set. this could easily be replicated on any of the other golems, however being forced to take points in a golem you don't use really cripples the build potential for me. The one golem-centric build I have seen that has "Decent" effect, is a P1 pure CE-Infinity-Insight set where the only summon is a buffed iron golem (insight) and the rest of the points are put into maxing CE and Amp. The merc (infinity) and golem burn down the first mob with a telestomp and amp and then the Necro CE's the rest down and teleports on at 125% FCR. it is potentially faster than the Nova build at clearing P1 trash, but the gameplay is super boring and real slow doing bosses.

[@frankenstein3163]

To bad fire golem doesn't have explosion's like fire ball.. enchant would own if he did. Does fire sunder charm affect fire golem and summons that are enchanted or is it just me.. penalty and sundered enemy's affect ?

[@Alzorath]

They get the benefit of sundered, and sundered only (so they'll be dealing with 95% fire resistant enemies if you use a fire sunder charm, regardless of your other gear)

[@jimpennin9588]

Being able to resurrect an iron golem would make it so much better

[@Alzorath]

definitely one of the things on my short list (being able to summon IG from an IG corpse...)

[@xx3uddhaxx]

I need a GG IG Guide. Going to make a Pride Golem soon but I have idea where to put pts in.

[@Alzorath]

I usually recommend against pride or infinity golems due to the cost in making them, and the fact that golems will die due to mediocre ai more than anything - and to make them 'golemancer' levels, requires a main-skill level investment (80+ points) - the funny thing about using Iron Golem for it, is that you don't bother maxing IG - the focus should be on the synergies (blood for life, fire for damage, clay for attack rating) - so when doing a golemancer I usually only have 1 point in my IG.

[@Ironclad6661]

Thanks for the video. It made me not want to waste time with Golems. LOL....still very helpful.

[@cryptblitzer3645]

Im pretty sure that you no longer recieve the damage the blood golem takes.... ive been running just him since update and I never take damage from him anymore. I know this use to be a problem but ive been having him tank pack and such since update and my life inly goes up.

[@Alzorath]

yup - they removed the backflow damage around the time they removed the IM exploit.

[@SelevanRsC]

3:03 god damn it, how could you not let him kill that huntress. :((

[@Alzorath]

because I'm cruel ;)

[@SelevanRsC]

​@@Alzorath You... you monster!

[@slwong3]

I still have hard time keeping iron golem alive. Especially I found it easily died if the enemies cast iron maiden on the golem. (I hope I actually saw it right) It's either the health bar wasn't reflecting the health properly or the damage reflection just killed it in one shot. I only put one point for iron golem and plus all the +skills items, the iron golem is around level 13.

[@Alzorath]

Iron Maiden from enemies was patched out in early LoD.

[@slwong3]

@@Alzorath I'm not sure about it because my iron golem still dies easily whenever it is being cursed, that's my experience right now and I'm using the golem with skeletons as well, it's not like the golem is soloing by itself. It would be great if someone can test it as well.

[@emperorpelpitine2324]

​@@slwong3hello, I know this is a old post but I made a iron golem out of a beast an it hasn't died yet from level 88 to 92, all summoing kills because that could also be a big factor. I have done over 20 ubers with out the beast iron golem dieing With my gear, 49 skeleton mater, 47 raise skeleton, 46 skeleton mage,26 revive. all golems are level 25, but the golem mastery is level 44 bringing the hp to 9653 with level 25 sum resistance thats 68 resistance all.

[@adamgreyson7102]

Fire golem is fire skill?

[@Alzorath]

yup, and it will get +levels from stuff like magefist, though it makes very little difference in their potency.

[@adamgreyson7102]

@@Alzorath leaf runword work on fire golem

[@stofsk]

@@adamgreyson7102 hmm. yeah it should, boost the fire golem slvl so you cast it at a higher level. Now I'm kinda wondering if a partial trang's set mixed with a Leaf staff can boost the fire skills trangs set gives you... you couldn't use flickering flame or magefist tho...

[@istvanjuhasz210]

Why do you say BG has less life than CG? It was improoved in 2.4 and now has a huge lifepool, the highest of all golems, if you max them out. Their AR and dmg still sucks thouhg. At lvl 45 Golem Mastery, lvl 45 CG has 49610 life, while lvl 45 BG has 62426 life.

[@BafroomHumor]

it's also odd that he doesn't find the life leach useful... I mean the thing doesn't have enormous damage but it's better than IG without a powerful weapon and I get 1/4+ of my health back every time it hits something, it definitely has saved my life on a few occasions and helps me not have to use health potions every time i get slapped a couple of times. I use CG for bosses and BG everywhere else, it's not bad.

[@istvanjuhasz210]

@@BafroomHumor The LL is not that good, but you won't be in the front line whit a summoner necro, so it's good enough, but they could have more AR, and it would be way better.

[@eclipse369.]

@@BafroomHumor yea i use bg all time except for bosses

[@terrodar19]

If u think about it, necros still need a LOT of skill rework…. come on blizz

[@bobnewkirk7003]

If CE wasn't broken, and PNova wasn't P8 viable I'm sure you would see a lot more vocal criticism from the community, but the necro has 3 specs that do the 3 main facets of the game (bone for pvp, summons for early MF and PNova for endgame) so no one is vocal about how the rest of the kit is entirely wasted...

[@terrodar19]

@@bobnewkirk7003 but not one developer can say that poison explosion and dagger and fire/blood golem are not completely useless

[@bobnewkirk7003]

@@terrodar19 there are actually some fixes floating around for those skills, but you are right we have no indication that anything is going to be done with them. Personally I would love to see all poison effects stacking into a rolling debuff because at present there is an anti-synergy between poison builds. a stacking debuff would make poison dagger a SUPER lethal boss killer, and if the cloud left by PE did multiple instances of its effect it would also be crazy lethal. I would love to see the Fire Golem get a synergy with CE and maybe LR or SR. you could move some of CE's Fire damage into the synergy to tone it down a bit, and buff the Fire golems physical damage from CE. LR or SR should provide a buff to both mages and Fire golem with a flat increase to damage passively, which would give us a reason to take more than 1 point in it. imo the whole summoning tree needs a major rework: both masteries need to be consolidated, summon resist should do more than be a flat buff (or also get consolidated), and CE should be moved to the summoning tree, just to start with.

[@jesserichards5582]

Blood Goblem is my main usually

[@Людмила-з1т7я]

H fire golem for Pitrie /sdd

[@sampaskung]

the problem is : you spend 100 skill points into the golem tree, it is only as good as the Amazon spend only 20 points into Valkery!

[@Alzorath]

actually, for a strong valkyrie, you spend more than 20 points though there's a skill video for that too ;)

[@Bendertrickster]

31.6 k life Jeez

[@GoldbondPowder]

Rip iron maiden

[@captainmurphy809]

If you value teleport and think enigma is the best item in the game, by that same notion, clay golem is the best golem of the golems. The reason being utility is king. The clay golem slow by itself is monumental usually getting at least 60% slow on enemies it hits or enemies that hit it. When you combine this with decrepify, which slows movement speed, attack speed, and lowers damage of enemy AND increases physical dmg received, bosses become immobilized. It’s a no brainer, at least for bosses. Necro doesn’t need infinity. I always use insight for necro on the merc.

[@Alzorath]

the only one I really can't build around is the blood one sadly - but yea, clay is the best consistent pick - iron requires a specific plan, and fire is for a very specific aggro build.

[@MephProduction]

Not sure what anyone would pick Clay over Blood considering blood has more life and does more damage, while Clay slows monsters down there's nothing slower than dead and the more damage done the faster they die.

[@MephProduction]

Decided to return to the Clay for a bit as everyone raves about it, it dies twice within 6 minutes and it's slow ability barely made a difference so went back to Blood for a proper killing machine that can survive.

[@d_no_allyn_86]

Sir, it is go lumm not Gah lum.. it's not gollum from lord of the rings lmao. Good video though.

[@Alzorath]

There is irony in this, considering I schedule my "for fun" community polls about a week ahead unless there's something newsworthy or I'm doing a serious poll lol - you'll see why if you check back in about 4 hours ;)

[@NinjaSushi2]

This game was only ever designed with normal in mind. I don't think they ever intended for people to replay the game to nightmare or hell difficulty but threw it in there just in case. If you look at all the items that were released with the initial game, everything is geared around normal gameplay.

[@Alzorath]

It's a bit of a misunderstanding of the design - the original release the game was designed around normal being the gear up, nightmare for playing with uniques/rares, and then hell gear requiring extremely rare drops in top-tier rares/magic items ( much like Diablo 1 ) - gems were pretty fun too, but usually mostly useful in norm/nightmare. Early LoD was a difficulty shift, where new additions made the game significantly easier in nightmare/hell (nightmare uniques were more than strong enough for hell - as were many runewords). Then came a difficulty pass - with the greater focus on immunities and such, as well as the acceleration of gear to compensate (to an extent), that made it what it is now - where normal is the warmup and experiment (with a bit of challenge because you have no gear), nightmare being the 'power fantasy' since you're coming into the zone with properly leveled top tier skills, but not dealing with the hell spike - and then hell meant to challenge the normal player without min-maxed gear (min-maxed gear makes hell a cake walk in all eras of the game - and did the same with D1 as well)