The Seiko Monster is overrated. Watch this before you buy | Seiko SRPH75K1 Monster Save The Ocean

[@saptarshimozumdar1657]

Just the dial, the case and the indices makes me feel like getting it despite the shortocmings. This will also be my first expensive watch, I know 500$ is not much for most of you all, but for me its an huge amount for money for a watch.

[@Tom_H327]

There is more of us poors than you think.

[@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14]

whats the shortcomings?

[@jamesdoherty6558]

its still a better looking watch , than any 480 pound watch i can find, and thats why i love it

[@marioaquilina248]

Its worth every penny.

[@rightthroughthecounterstri3961]

Tremendous watch. But you are lying to yourself if you don’t think these are overpriced..

[@marioaquilina248]

@rightthroughthecounterstri3961 for me it's fine. I collect Seiko only without regrets.

[@supermoduleprime]

I've had my Orange and Black dial for a little over 16 years. No a single issue. Best watch ever.

[@96kyh]

I'm aware of the shortcomings of a Seiko at this price range these days, but I still like the Monster design and I'll buy this for the awesome dial.

[@cedricduyongco]

The Monster is not my type but I do like their Samurai,Turtle/Tortoise and Alpinist line. And they do make beautiful dials. I guess the motto of Seiko is there is a watch for everybody (by churning up all different designs at different price points). I used to be a Seiko snob and my collections were all Swiss brands from entry level to high end. Now I realized I am missing out a lot by ignoring Seiko. There will never be a perfect watch even at the Swiss brand higher price point. It's a matter of what you're willing to compromise. I have noticed that people are more critical of Seiko's fault but are forgiving of more expensive Swiss brands fault. Just look at the rehaut of my Rolex and see if it's off by a mm. In the logic of the people complaining with Seiko having misaligned bezel, at the price point of Rolex the rehaut should be 100% aligned. But in reality, only WIS people can notice that when inspected closely. But practically nobody will do that when it's on another person's wrist.

[@96kyh]

@@cedricduyongco I agree with your points. For that matter, WIS people are complaining about imperfections on AliExpress watches (homages) that cost from USD 60 - 250; which are otherwise incredible value for the money. Of course these are usually homages, but with outstanding specifications and finishing, considering the low prices..

[@alantaylor6619]

I watched this video and still brought this watch 😂😂 I love it.

[@alantaylor6619]

@Mtown Bound I tried the penguin feet one on, it was lovely. The subtle changes of the dial colour in different light swayed me in to getting the dark penguin though.

[@alantaylor6619]

@Mtown Bound exactly that.

[@alessandrocerioli2151]

I really don't understand the negativity and the hate for Seiko...I just bought this watch from an AD for 20% discount from retail price, IMO it's great: case finish is top notch at this price point, accuracy is about 6 seconds per day. On my own alignment is good, I thought the cyclop iwas off but after staring very carefully I noticed it was an optical illusion. Bezel action is also very good and just after checking the alignment for a while I noticed the paint used for the engraved numbers of the bezel is indeed dark blue matching the dial. Yes there is some play in the endlinks, but underneath them my case was polished well. My main complaint is the clasp that IMO is too wide for the watch, I understand previous generations had a slimmer one but complainers complained it looked weird. I also noticed that the notches of the case aligned with the ones on the bezel but the latter should have been a tad wider in order to match their counterpats but here I'm nitipicking. Overall I would recommend this diver to people that are more interested in substance (ISO 6425 tested) than form (0.5mm play in the endlinks). Oh, hardlex is IMO better than the cheap and hazy sapphire you find on the knockoff brands at the same price point, even if it made more sense with the original design without lens because the bezel protected the recessed crystal...I am thinking about removing it to be honest. P.S. It's sad to see this channel recommends to go with AliE because they have a blue tinted sapphire, in the 70s an advertisement stated "just fake people buy fake watches".

[@LumePip]

I totally respect your position and am glad you've had a great experience with your Seikos. But I have to say, the sapphire crystals on watches I've experienced and reviewed at £480 (the current RRP of this watch) are not hazy or cheap looking. Likewise, most people paying £480 for a diver likely aren't using it for diving, and if they were, the poor diver's extension would be a disappointment for them. I think a lot of people - and admittedly this is based purely off anecdotal feedback and my own inclinations - would go for a combination of specs AND design/brand heritage at this sort of price point. There are better offerings from Seiko at this price, or just above this price. And let me add I absolutely don't condone fake watches. You imply I do - that's wrong. The Heimdallr homage that many argue is better than the real Monster (but I can't say as I haven't handled it) is not a fake.

[@hjkhhjkh3635]

It’s because people like him would rather buy microbrands copying big manufactures and producing value homages with nh35, sw200 and sapphire crystals 😂 I’d rather not have sapphire crystal and have an original design than having a homage of a huge brand.

[@mttqll8623]

That watch really looks cool in your wrist. You dont like it but it certainly likes you.

[@dire67]

I love mine. I dive so the hardlex makes sense. Beautiful watch but what I have issue with is the diver's extension. Has anyone figured out how to deploy it?

[@arthurlongshanks]

Pretty happy to have picked up this version of the Monster on sale brand new for $399 AUD - about 200 quid plus a few bob in loose change when converted to GBP.

[@nozydog771]

I went for the King Samurai STO with sapphire AND ceramic bezel. Got it for £470. Love this watch tho and may look for one to go with the sammy in my collection! Seiko just do great designs, putting out far more choice than pretty much any other brand! Just make sure you buy online with a free return period so you can scrutinise the watch to ensure no QC issues!

[@halfpastblog]

Huh. I really love my Monster. Although I'd have preferred flat Sapphire with no magnifier, that's for sure.

[@LumePip]

I think some of the other models might have a better price-value ratio - but honestly, mate, not in this case! A lot of people also recommending it once modded... I think with Sapphire and maybe without the magnifier it could be a better watch, but I also don't think this should be a prerequisite to buying a watch! 😅

[@halfpastblog]

@@LumePip For me personally price to value rations don't factor in a whole lot. An emotional connection makes a bigger difference. I have Aliexpress watches that cost way less and have sapphire and enjoy them less.

[@jananilcolonoscopu4034]

@@halfpastblog that's weird, I have AliExpress watches that cost way less, and I love them more. Partly because they cost less. Because I'm not a mug who flings his money around on pointless brand cache

[@ringaleavo]

I like it, you apparently don't. Inflation and the improved hacking movement over the 7S26 hasn't increased the price at all once you consider inflation. FWIW these can be purchased all day long for under $400, which is actually less than I paid for my Monsters in 2001.

[@dogsarebetterproductions]

What’s worse is my spb143 $1899 aud watch has the same diver’s extension. I wish I knew how to remove it.

[@bradd5961]

Are the previous versions of the monster made any better? Also can you replace the glass with sapphire crystal? Not sure what mod options are available with the monster. Anyone? Thanks

[@LumePip]

Good question, mate. That was my first Monster - I would be up for trying different models and I'm not anti-Seiko by any means. I'd say these are definitely mod-able. Seiko Mods seems to stock Monster parts, too: www.seikomods.com/product-category/monster-watch-mod-parts/page/2/ (That's not an affiliate link nor do I have any affiliation right now with that website/company, just so you know)

[@fulcrum6756]

Hey so I like the look of this watch and found one at around $300. Anyone recommend getting it at that price despite some of the critics?

[@sebcasa2711]

Does anyone else date wheel jump when trying to adjust it???

[@roman9509]

I love the that the stainless steel case is back! and they even improved the bracelet with a nice fit with the case and a wider clasp. now they price have come down to below ~$380 it's a much better deal

[@sebcasa2711]

Where did you buy from??!

[@DzejWiJV]

Mate, chill 😐

[@VivekSingh-hy1dk]

Do you have the same views on the baby tuna? Srph 77

[@LumePip]

I haven’t tried it out, mate, so couldn’t say either way. I hate Hardlex though and think Seiko massively overcharge for sapphire crystal- saying that, I do have a new Seiko that I’m really enjoying. They’re great watches but don’t offer the specs others do for the same price - a take as old as time. Nice finishing, great historical brand, but you’ve just got to pay a bit of a premium to match other brands that offer the same/better specs for less.

[@victorvannunen9410]

As an owner of this watch. I feel some of the points you made were very valid such as the crap beneith the glass and not having a chrystal glass in the first place. However, I would like to argue that these mistakes don’t happen on every individual watch. It sound like you argue against the entire lineup. Im not saying I disagree with you. Instead, I think Seiko’s ”high level” quality control has begun lacking. I love mine very much and I think its a cool piece. I do not mind the small things too much. And yes, I have a scratch on the candybar as well😂 Thanks for the constructive critisism👍🏼

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

What does it weigh?

[@Cptcan5150]

~186 gram

[@Justthinkin502]

Compare the NEWER MONSTER to the OLDER SKX779 The Original MONSTER STILL outshines anything today

[@daleclark3138]

Prices will continue to rise and have poor QC as long as they have little competition. I buy maybe one Seiko in a year now. I find Seiko homages from the far east to be be better value with better finish and materials plus Seiko movements at 1/4 the price or less. I like an honest review like this.

[@LWIN729]

No matter how much seiko rise they are not as expensive as the overprice "swiss" watches that burnt our pocket 😂😂

[@roycedayton5364]

Brilliant review I have a SEIKO King Turtle Mantra and it is brilliant. But you need to look and search for your SEIKO because the QC issues. So part of the watch appreciation is the hunt that goes with it to find the perfect watch. I am happy and am very pleased with my SEIKO but as I said you can’t buy the 1st one you find you need to have your wits about you when fishing for your SEIKO Oh and it had the best Lumibrite going around 😁

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much! 🙏You're absolutely right. I've tried/bought a couple more Seikos SINCE this but I really had to do my research and actually talk to ADs/sellers about the actual pieces I'd be receiving etc. As long as you can find the right specs on the right piece for the right price, plus some QC checks, then you'll (probably) be OK 😅

[@noelbeacher8016]

Thanks for the video…I’ve been considering this for a while as I’ve not experienced a monster and as you say that disk is sublime. You’re right for the best part of £500 the specs and build quality just aren’t good enough. I recently purchased as C Ward Trident pro 300 for £750 (with a coupon) and for what you get for the extra £250 is staggering. The quality equals that of my BB58 navy. Sorry…rant over!!

[@LumePip]

No worries, Noel. I think you've nailed it there - brands like Christopher Ward, Nodus, Tissot, Steinhart, Squale etc are way better value propositions. I love the Trident Pro (and miss my old white model, as well as my Tide LE) - great watch with sublime finishing, as you rightly point out!

[@paultaylor8849]

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[@pinikpikantv3555]

Seems good for 200$ . I bought mine without box together with sumo hulk sumo. Paid 400$ equivalent for both but they did not come with a box. I know it is real seiko as I have the real sumo hulk to compare. Besides the cyclops and without box, I like em. Wearing it today just got them few hours ago😂 with stickers and all from a very unhappy wife. Great size. Great color and my first special edition. Happy feet monster penguin doesnt sound correct but they look really cool as antarctica. Same size with my kamasu but with same dial with my king samurai and bezel action is seiko as it is quite not perfectly aligned but better clicks than my sumo hulk. Lumes is same as seiko samurai. Its my most loved piece so far. I will be checking if an SKX 007 will give same feeling of satisfaction after I will get it few days from now. But this one is cooler than what I currently have. I just ordered a SD1970 Captain Willard on the 11-11 sale and was thinking this black friday to get the heimdallr with the same dial and saw someone selling this. What a bargain . Better than buying something homagjng it. Perfect size for my wrist so far.

[@allenkasner6290]

After over 500 or so dive watches this baby is da bomb ! Love mine

[@A2Z_Productionz]

Great review, I have managed to find this watch on sale for £360 in the UK. Would you say this is worth the price instead of the RRP of £560? Thanks!

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much! I’d say at that price, it’s a much better proposition. Especially the dial. Honestly, the dial is stunning. The rest is standard Seiko fare, but at over £500, that’s not on. But £360 is a good price! 👍🏻Let me know if you decide to get it and what you think 😉

[@A2Z_Productionz]

@@LumePip Thanks for the opinion, will let you know!

[@iangraham705]

I’m a seiko collector and I’ve got quite a few divers, including a jade green monster which is pretty similar to this one. It’s probably the watch in my collection that I’ve got the most mixed feelings on, sometimes I love wearing it but it gets less time than any other seiko diver. I have to say I agree this bracelet is a bit of a waste of space, it just doesn’t match the case and dial. The diver extensions generally are just a load of nonsense for 99% of users, they just look like a cheap afterthought to tick a box. I’ve got mine on a strapcode superengineer, much more in line with the industrial case design I think. On a positive note it seems to have nearly doubled in value since I bought it….

[@LumePip]

I had a Strapcode Hexad bracelet on a Samurai I used to have and it really did lift the watch into a new tier entirely, so that is always an option. But it seems like a lot of these $500 Seikos now come with the understanding you might have to do upgrades on it for it to match other brands' watches in the same price category! 🙃

[@iangraham705]

@@LumePip yes I’ve got a hexad on my Samurai, which looks great for about 340 all in as I got it used/barely worn. Got a super engineer on my monster.

[@raven_of_zoso455]

Lumey! I've been really falling in love with your videos lately. Also, I kinda had built you up to kinda look like if Johnny Rotten was a Top Gear presenter in 2005, but you instead look quite dashing and really respectable. I don't know if I might be a bit disappointed... Now, about the watch, I think it is obvious that Seiko has become immune to make a 10/10 watch these days, especially divers, but also other styles. I mean, they make great watches and mostly worth their buck, but I think they're currently in a bit of a rut when it comes to certain things other brands seem to master with little to no problems. A few weeks ago I was looking at a Presage model, I liked it a lot, but there were some minute details that made me shy away a bit. For me it was the hands, that watch model would have been a solid 9/10 if they had gone for some coffin shaped hands like they do on the GS. All in all, I kinda felt there were better options out there that was more appealing for the money. Then I had a look at a Orient Bambino and I just fell head over heels for that little rascal. I was really close to pulling the trigger on it, but I already have a Seestern 600T homage on the way (thanks to you), and now I am about to order another watch which will kinda serve the purpose of any Presage or Bambino. It's the Selten 00.00 with a meteorite dial. That's a watch I think you should try and get for your channel, not many reviews on KZbin for it, and the guy who makes them is a really nice and helpful guy, and the watch looks quite nice, although I will admit it is not a 10/10, but I felt it was unique enough to get my hands on. Good health to you, sir. Cheers.

[@LumePip]

That's probably the most unlikely comparison I've ever had but I'll take it! Also, dashing and respectable aren't adjectives I've ever associated with myself so thanks so much for saying so 🤣 There's a fair few pieces mentioned there. Some of the Presage models look great (the Cocktail Time ones, to be specific), but I think the lack of a sapphire crystal on the models I like has put me off. It's a little thing but I'm a right clumsy bast**d, so that Hardlex would look like a used vinyl in no time. As for the Bambino, it's another I'd like to try. Maybe I should and just upgrade the crystals on both. It's just an expense I resent having to do having already paid for the watch. I think you'll be made up with the Seestern, but do let me know your thoughts. I'm buying another one of them. They're just fantastic value for money IMO. Not sure even San Martin gets close to them, really - at least at that price. The San Martins at £200-£350 ovbiously do, but for about £140, Seestern is the GOAT. I know the Selten watch you're talking about! It's a beautiful piece and one I'd love to review. They actually offered me a small discount on the piece but I couldn't get one at the time. Maybe one will come into my possession in future if I keep my ear* to the ground**. *eye **eBay I hope you continue enjoying the videos, mate!

[@nicolaslaloge4811]

I find the same QC issues on my king turtle, with a little fiber and dust on the dial marker.

[@LumePip]

It’s a shame because Seiko’s dials are kind of unrivalled at the price! It’s what they do best IMHO, and one can forgive a lot if you look down and see a near-perfect dial

[@arielargo]

I just found this same model on eBay for $290 brand new! At that price, there are no complaints from me.

[@CorkKNIFE]

Well, my SKX779 is still in rotation after 19 years, most of those years as a daily. Maybe I will get it serviced someday.

[@markbrennan4693]

Got me thinking, had a gen 1 black monster and had to sell my small watch collection due to circumstances. Like the look of this new one, my eyes are getting old so don't mind the day/date magnifier. Bit on the fence. Thanks for the video.

[@bigfish786]

I’ve had the original orange monster for over a decade and not a single scratch on the crystal. Still one of my favourite watches in my collection. I didn’t pay anything like £500 for it though, probably half that.

[@ChrisDuncan]

A bit of a harsh review...even though I tend to agree (generally) with your points. Full discloser: I have three Seiko Monsters (including the model featured in this review) and I have two Heimdallr "monsters" as well (an orange dial and a really cool green dial). While it's true, spec-wise, these homage watches (fake-o's) are superior to the real deals (again, by specs) and the prices are WAY cheapter, I must confess that the sum of the parts doesn't necessarily trump the whole, if that makes sense. In other words, I'd rather have the real thing, short comings or not. The finishing on the real Seikos I've found to be superior and then there's the grating, nagging little voice that bugs my horological OCD: you're wearing a fake!

[@LumePip]

That's a really good point, mate - no doubt, there's a magic to certain brands and pieces, and that goes for this too. I think sometimes when you're trying to review stuff, it can be difficult not to let it boil down to hard facts, but then something will happen when those facts come into play. In this case, the Hardlex got scratched and I wasn't even sure how, and I think that's something that would really annoy me (and it did!). Seiko perhaps are riding the wave of goodwill because their watches have that certain magic that their history and designs hve afforded them, but that'll only go so far. If they could have better QC (alignment issues, etc) and ramp up specs the way they've ramped up prices, it'd be better for us all :)

[@brianmurphy8154]

I like the monster...but because Seiko keeps being Seiko, this is a case where an Islander homage or Heimdallr homage is better in my opinion. You get sapphire, better clasp, better build and a cheaper price. That being said I just bought a Seiko Marine Master 300. I guess it takes that price to get a better movement, build, sapphire and signed crown from Seiko. But it is a great watch. If I want a monster, I will go homage...great vid...I have no idea if I spelled Heimdallr correctly....

[@brianmurphy8154]

@@Michael-ko8uf As I said, I own a Marine Master 300. I’m not a Seiko hater by any means. But to think that they don’t cut corners is just not honest. Singed crowns, milled clasps, these aren’t hard to do but yet Seiko requires a customer to spend in excess of $1k to get these basics.

[@RJ-cq8dd]

​@@Michael-ko8ufMy Heimdallr will age just fine.

[@1968jpy]

I own the JDM model SBDY115 and the previous Save the Ocean Antarctica Monster SBDY105 as well. This is the first negative review I’ve seen on this watch . I don’t have any of the issues you have with yours on either of mine and I’d say these are actually excellent Seiko divers . I’ve even thought of adding the Padi edition of the fourth generation monster as well. The only point I agree with you on is that I do wish it had a sapphire crystal. Other than that my two Save the Ocean Antarctica Monster watches are amazing 🤩

[@LumePip]

I think if you've got one and haven't had the same issues as me, more power to you 🙌 Unfortunately, based on my experience, I just can't recommend it. A lot of people are saying I could upgrade the crystal, bracelet, clasp etc, but I think for the price, I shouldn't have to! Nevertheless, glad you like yours, Joseph 👍👍

[@tomaskew1936]

Wow I do like the styling of the Monster, but I have to agree with you that in this price range you have a sapphire crystal. Dust inside the case of a 500-dollar watch is unacceptable. And I don't like the idea of all the crap collecting around the bezel. I think they made a decision at the top to pocket the money they save by giving their customer less quality hence no sapphire in many of their mid-price so-called better-quality watches. That said most of my Seiko's are still looking great even with Hardlex Crystal, Mineral instead of sapphire. There are always pro's and con's, I like Seiko and I do wish they would start using Sapphire in more of their mid-range choices. Orient Triton has sapphire Crystal and they do it at a price point below 300 dollars and great accuracy, the but on the Triton though is I am sure it is no ISO certified for diving and that does cost! And hey I am no professional, but I do like my watches and I have them ranging from an Omega Planet Ocean to an Invicta Pro diver, everyone needs a beater watch. LOL!

[@DelaneySeamus]

Happiness is seeing lume pip has uploaded

[@cyrussataravalla6731]

Ma786sai dua After seeing their absolutely handsome, robust 3rd Generation Jade SZSC005 I pulled the trigger happily after finding a 2019 Jade for 1300 US dollars. A Blue coral reef Monster SBDC067 was next. Just one look at both these 3rd Gens and my mind was made happily made up. The blue cost me lots 1400 US dollars with papers and box but it was well worth it. And next will be a navy blue dialled Gen-3 SZSC003. I agree with you the 4th Gen just don’t do it for me in any way.

[@hugohernandez3651]

I got a Monster...the original orange moster for $200 approx. It was quite a fair price. $500? 🙄. With that being said, I got a Prospex Samurai Dark Manta for less than $500. Sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel..simply beautiful. I think it is a lot of watch for $.

[@LumePip]

I used to have that very watch. Paired with the Strapcode Hexad bracelet it's absolutely fantastic. It was slightly misaligned, though...

[@hugohernandez3651]

@@LumePip Yes. Mine has a small misalignment as well.

[@DanielRodriguez-tj5xx]

Nice I managed to snag king samurai padi edition at Macy’s one day sale 327 otd

[@MarkoMarkovina]

Yep! I absolutely agree... Just sold mine few days ago

[@brocookies]

that’s my first ever seiko watch, bought it a year ago before knowing much about watches and diver, I would say the first thing i didn’t know i hate is hardlex crystal because i got scratches in a few days, so now i will upgrade to another watch but you really cannot hate the fact that seiko has a brilliant dial,

[@LumePip]

Couldn't agree more, mate. In fact, I'm in the process of getting another Seiko but this one WILL have sapphire! Those dials are stunning, but do need some protection 😅

[@Scortd]

Beautiful dial. Wish it had the bezel color of the Padi as well, it would be a no brainer then.

[@arkadiuszswiezynski6281]

If you buy the Seiko, only what you pay for is a different case design. Movement is mostly the same with some examples but is still same. So if you like Monster design, is only someone choice. I got Monster, Samurai, Presage, and 5. Every one is different and I like it, someone else doesn't need like it. if you don't like this type of crystal, is easy to replace with Sapphire - flat or not. Can't see the sense of this video.

[@clontstable1]

I love my Orange 2nd Gen, with its quirks. I bought it in 2014 for $175.00 (you’ll never see that again!) I also own Mark’s, Islander with the 1st Gen black dial & Sapphire crystal.

[@erikvermeulen9295]

I have never been a fan of the monster and for some people it is a musthave in the collection, a classic. I think for that price there a better offerings on the market nowadays. Also not a fan of these 'limited editions' Seiko thing.

[@raduarisanu6421]

I have the watch and I completely disagree with you. Not only is a great watch is also unique in design, original and most importantly part of the money goes into saving the ocean. So if for this price I should get a sapphire and I get hardlex, for me is fine with the thought that the rest of the money goes into a good cause. I want to see you so keen on what you get for your buck from a 15.000$ Rolex Sub vs this 500$. Or if you want absolute best back for the buck go get a Zelos. This watch is not for you because you clearly are missing the point of it. For me is the absolute best watch.

[@AlexanderB.]

Couldn't agree more mate! My best guessing is Seiko see their sub-500-$ watches as entry drug. They figure they would sell enough of their more expensive models if their cheaper models already had decent specs like sapphire crystal and milled clasp elements. But once you spend more than a certain amount Seiko watches can be amazing.

[@LumePip]

Of that there's no doubt, bud. I had a King Samurai a year or so ago that I loved... But it was still misaligned, and that cost me nearly £550. And I think I remember Jody at JOMW getting a Seiko for about a grand that was STILL misaligned. Now, for that, I'd be livid. But I don't want to spend Grand Seiko money for something as basic as an aligned bezel. Maybe something more simple and dressy (like a Cocktail model) might be an easier sell to someone like me. But then again, Hardlex... 🤣

[@MirrlyonTime]

Great honest review. I struggle with the price of a lot of Seiko prospex watches as well, and I wonder if the whole save the ocean bit has added a premium of sorts to the price. I bought a prospex Solar padi that I am quite pleased with though, but since it was solar quartz it was a couple hundred or more less than the automatic I was looking at, so that was a win for me. Thanks m8

[@tonyzeno2715]

I'm partial to seiko 7S26-0020 models... I had 2 batman split blue/black dials that I sold and regret

[@OrologiAmo.33]

it's a very robust and nice watch. Wonderful dial. Good quality/price ratio!

[@michaelbradley6488]

If your winter coat/jacket has a metal button or snap on the sleeve, you will scratch the candy bar magnifier. I know from experience, that said my Gen 1 Monster looks great after all of these years. I can live with the bracelet clasp, bothers me not at all.

[@JerreMuesli]

I totally agree that hardlex at this price range is an outrageous decision. Seiko sure makes some weird decisions these days. It makes all these limited editions at ridiculous prices solely for boosting sales. Yes, FOMO is a thing. I salute you for giving your unpopular opinion but you made some excellent points

[@burhanbaik2806]

to be fair, on the dust thing, just because your cheaper watches dont have qc issues, doesnt mean the rest of their production dont have one. i like the bracelet. got 70s feel to it. but the extension is horrible. even worse that you cant remove them.

[@LumePip]

I get that, but I can only review the watches in front of me and each, at least for the sake of review, is representative of the batch. There will definitely be some of those cheaper watches with QC issues, too, like you say, and no doubt watches more expensive than this will have some, too! I think a lot of people have jumped on this video thinking I'm a hater of Seiko, but I've got plenty of positive Seiko reviews, too 😅 And I have another watch at the moment with that horrible extension and I can't even

[@johnp.g.2146]

With the history and legacy of Seiko that is not overpriced at all

[@fflonsitellc]

Seiko is awesome! Because of your video I am buying a modern PADI Monster SRPE27 🙌💪

[@mixodorians12]

Seems you can either have a something that shatters or something that scratches. Polywatch does not seem to work that well with hardlex though. If you are going to quote me in your videos I want a slice of the action. How about you send me the watch? ;)

[@LumePip]

I think the pedantic, precious side of me needs that scratch-free crystal! And I am getting myself another Seiko soon... All will be revealed in due course. 😅 And I'll try and limit any and all quoting so as not to incur royalty fees haha.

[@edsmith4821]

This watch is in Prospex price country so indeed it doesn't make sense or value ! Better to buy that or buy a SKX779 which officially limited to orange or black at around £300 is better value for money. Cheaper still if you get with the rubber dive strap

[@steveb4012]

The review is spot on, I've often been tempted by a Samura but the ongoing qc issues and the price deter me. I have Citizens that have been half the price better qc and blow the Seikos literally out of the water. I'd like to buy a Seiko but I will not pay through the nose for sub standard procedure.

[@ahha6304]

You can never go wrong with Citizen, and I have a vid that I have a speed problem on this Seiko in my account. (edit: already change the calibre, as it is till in the warranty time) The only reason I bought this one is that it makes fine dress watch, but if I have to get through hard stuff, my Promaster Eco-Drive Chronograph is always the choice.

[@oliviersebastian1516]

I bought one exactly like that, but i like it, i love the all metal look,

[@Patrick.Knows.Nothing]

Dude! Thank you! Have been eyeing this watch, as well as others (with a $500 price point in mind), for about a week… looks like I’ll keep my eyes open

[@amlesh8638]

It's not overrated

[@DanBarksey]

Seiko can put sapphire on their $130 solar watch but not on a $525 monster , it doesn’t make any sense .. this is why people go to micro brands with Seiko moventents

[@archie2archie]

Seiko snk809 black field watch, sna411 flightmaster, and this because it's a diver and i love penguins. Thinking about a gmt

[@edmunddantes4757]

Couldn't agree with you more. They are driving people down the road of getting the exact same looking looking watch with twice/3 times the specs for less than half the price. And better quality control. Wake up seiko, cuz ur getting laughed at.!

[@MrPleers]

I agree about the hardlex . For a watch of the same price, other brands (like Tissot or Hamilton for example) offer sapphire.

[@jackdanyal4329]

but you will get only quartz versions with those brands. so, for me, movement is more important than the glass

[@KaeXi]

I'm looking to add this to my collection but for me that crystal is a turn-off.. I detest date magnifiers on any watch. This would be so much better with a domed sapphire crystal.

[@LordCommanderHo]

This is the closest thing to looking like a Stargate. I want it😅

[@RJ-cq8dd]

Completely agree. Bought it and returned it immediately. Bought a Heimdallr frost monster instead. $170 and you get a better (milled) clasp and better (sapphire) glass.

[@djzrobzombie2813]

I think people should buy a citizen promaster!!!!!!

[@iangraham705]

I’ve had two and they’ve had the worst QC on any watches I’ve bought 🤷‍♂️

[@LumePip]

Funnily enough, I have a Citizen in the queue to review... 😬

[@mannykhan7752]

9:01 Whoa whoa whoaaa.....I think you're making a bit of an understatement there.

[@rafaelribeiro404]

I wonder how much of this money goes for the saving the ocean stuff.

[@Michael-ko8uf]

I hope more than other manufacturers spend on it.

[@legmantillidie1030]

I totally agree. I have a 1st gen I paid $160 for. At these prices I don't believe they're worth it and their qc issues just scream laziness and arrogance. This has really shied me away from purchasing a Grand Seiko.

[@oliviersebastian1516]

I had exactly this watch, the numbers on bezels faded in just 2 months, so dissapointing

[@Daniel-bv2wc]

Whilst some of your gripes are legitimate. If you are buying a new watch and there is dust or dirt on the dial or other QC issues,, just send it back get it replaced or full refund. As for Seiko's pricing model who ever pays full price? It's clear they over price and then half the price come sale time. That is the true value. Never pay RRP on a Seiko! Finally the monster looks best on the rubber dive strap IMO, I would not be bothering with the shanky bracelet on an entry level diver.

[@thor4odin749]

Overrated?? Bought a 1st Gen Monster in Black SKX779 the month it hit the US Market. Have worn it for 20+ years daily....never opened it, had it serviced, never adjusted.....still keeps great time. Have dropped it dozens of times, banged it hard more times than I could remember, have snorkeled hundreds of times, swim regularly with it.....works like the day I bought it. Overrated.....I think not, worth every penny!!!

[@peterreston6478]

I've owned many watches during my long lifetime including several Rolexes. The Seiko Save The Ocean Monster is the best watch I have ever owned.

[@Zeus-kj7nn]

I think the previous Gen's get away with the bracelet shortcomings because of the time of production. They will become iconic, this Gen' four has missed the boat. Good video subscribed. 😊

[@wasp4eva1]

I have this watch and this guys gripes are ridiculous. It’s a great, beautiful, well functioning watch.

[@LumePip]

I also had this watch when I made the review. Your opinion's valid and so is mine :)

[@LaskMaestro]

More. More. Honesty is the best policy! Thanks!

[@zbignevbjejinski4267]

Thank you for pointing some important details. I hope Seiko Inc. see your indipendent review and likes of it and make their conclusions. I just changed my mind having that watch.

[@MuscleFlexPro]

Why did you buy it id you didn't want it?

[@LumePip]

I didn't know I wouldn't want it. The dial looks incredible, and there's no doubt with better build quality, it'd be a much more appealing proposition. I also have to sometimes review watches negatively, if I don't have a good experience with them, for example. If you like Seiko and their offerings, then more power to you. If we all liked the same thing etc etc etc

[@carlosvillsa]

Buddy, you complain too much. Take it easy, otherwise you gonna get older faster.

[@cosmodoc]

it sounded like you farted at 2:24😂

[@LumePip]

If I said I didn't, it would look like I'm protesting too much, so let's just put on record that I defintely did. 🙃

[@cosmodoc]

@@LumePipto edit it is cheating🤣

[@pclayto3]

Heimdallr monster - better quality, 5 times cheaper. End.

[@californiacastle]

Honest review. Didn’t seem like a hater at all. Having said that, if I could downvote this video twice, I would.

[@LumePip]

😂I'm not a hater though - I think I've got like three other videos about Seiko watches I really like! It's subjective, obviously

[@simonthomas5113]

Frustrating how you need to hit the £650 mark before Seiko will provide sapphire crystals. Orient really show them up in this respect.

[@renebense]

Seiko makes their watches the same way as the Chinese make watches. The difference is, a Chinese worker working for a Japanese company is less eager to make a precise product, because he hates the Japanese owners. Chinese workers work harder for Chinese firms, more accurate and are more proud of the end product. That´s my take on it. Stop buying crappy Seiko´s and demand better QC from Seiko. If you keep on buying badly aligned dials, Hardlex instead of Sapphire, pressed clasps instead of milled, than Seiko won´t stop producing these substandard watches. Go San Martin or Cronos all day, or even Pagani Design or Heimdahler. These Chinese brands are superior to Seiko and half the price or even 25% of the price of a Seiko.

[@RichardByrneUK]

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[@LumePip]

Wow, that's a really interesting take, Rene. I genuinely hadn't thought of that before. Totally agree on demanding better QC from Seiko, and the Cronos/San Martin watches I've handled have all been far superior to the Seikos I've paid a lot more for, but I wouldn't go as far down as Pagani 😅 But it's a good point nonetheless!

[@bccmorgan984]

It's a tool watch that looks best with some battle scars...like a Lexus GX460...ya it's an upscale SUV, but it's meant to be seriously off-roaded. It's a Seiko, it's meant to be abused and keep on ticking for years and years, it's not an investment and I never expect to see my money back. Besides, I can't see the lint on the dial...I'm old.

[@Pianoman999]

I have this watch and I love it. No regrets whatsoever.

[@peroperic3692]

Just seen it in store. Amazing in flesh.

[@LumePip]

The dial really is spectacular. The old adage about Seiko doing the best dials at the price is true, to be fair 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@peroperic3692]

@@LumePip Its really interesting. Something different from all the Submariner clones, and works well for the small Wrists too. I dont know how this guy managed to get it so dirty but it looks stunning live.

[@ISOTT78]

You have so right with your words. Seiko have forgotten to sience in new features. on the wristband and on the movement. for this price i will not get the same movement as i pay a seiko sport. And what i hate most on sseikos are this garbage hadrlex. when i pay more than 400 for a watch a saphirre must be. MUST BE possible.

[@anthonydanielgittins1864]

My wife bought me one for my 50th birthday. It was my fault, I asked for it. After a year...disappointed. Power reserve shit. Got a Longines Hydroconquest instead. Far better...

[@YannickKhong]

OMG THE COLDPLAY REFERENCE ON SEIKO hahaha yesss HE SAID IT.

[@kevinclose5840]

Totally disagree with you. Bought mine new 22 years ago,never skipped a beat and never been serviced and I always liked the classic look. Paid $240 but would probably buy a knock now from China. I think you should research your watch purchases better next time. Your channel your cry.

[@deanivan3951]

Gorgeous Watch, i still love mine!

[@Jackonda21]

Hi. Thank you very much for good review. I had new monster and I sold after one week. I agree 💯 it's not worth it. The watch feeling cheap and is uncomfortable on the arm because of the quality of bransolet. My advice don't buy it because not worth it! Stay safe.

[@SLVRFOX88]

I just bought the Padi version hmm