The Seven Day Week Proves God? | Mr. Delicieux (he/him) - CAN | Skeptic Generation S1E9

This is perhaps the strangest call Skeptic Generation has taken. Mr. Delicieux calls in claiming that the seven day week is proof of Jesus’s divinity. According to Mr. D, other atheist KZbinrs have failed against this argument. Will Eric and Vi be the ones to stump him? Watch the hosts get progressively more dumbfounded as he plows ahead, dropping insults throughout.
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[@quercus4730]

Everything proves god, except evidence.

[@TheVicar]

Everything that currently has no evidence is happily filled using GodGap technology

[@telsonater]

Nailed it

[@johnrap7203]

Yes, very good! 😆😆😆👍👍

[@johnaz7778]

This caller was so disinterested in anything Eric or Vi said that he never even noticed that Eric kept calling him Nick.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

If he listened to then he might realize how bad his argument is. Easier to ignore them.

[@locutusdborg126]

Well, we use Arabic numbers, and every human on earth uses those. So that really proves Allah exists, praise be to whomever.

[@danhemming6624]

Zero is from India.

[@Lupinemancer87]

I have a colleague who looks like santa clause, and since he was based on Odin, that proves the Norse Gods.

[@danhemming6624]

@@Dennistube001 A paedophile too. Taking a 6 year old as a wife and knowing her? WTF?

[@Dennistube001]

Yet Mohamed was illiterate, others wrote down his silly claims, when he got stronger he brutally forced people to believe his claims, such as "one thing does not infect another" also he advises to drink camel p as medicine, but drinking camel p is the source of M.E.R.S. (Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome ) its a COVID virus passed from camel to humans, I wonder how, yet Mohamed's Allah only knows what a desert dweller "knew" at the time, such as "one thing does not infect another" or "water can never be made impure" or "water can never be defiled" or how about "you can only catch leprosy on Wednesdays or the night of Wednesday"

[@Dennistube001]

@@danhemming6624 at one point i had evidence of instructions to what you can do to them, it was in a guide book by ayatollah khomeini, (he was the Former Supreme Leader of Iran) it explains that if you split the girl e.g leaving one big hole instaed of two you must pay her some money, but there is zero punishments due to the guy that does it, i recently did a fresh install of windows and lost a lot of bookmarks but will track it down again

[@49perfectss]

Vi nailed this right away. The seven day week predates this prophesy and it's entirely unimpressive lol.

[@aazhie]

Absolutely. No better a claim than we should all worship Allah because Arabic numerals... this guy induced some painful eyerolls on my life xD

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

It's not like it happening after would help his case. If I prophesize that I will eat a pork roll sandwich for breakfast tomorrow no ones gonna be impressed when I go out and buy one.

[@wilberforce1826]

Moreover, the 7 day week is anything but universal, any more than the US Dollar, the metric system, and the Oxford comma. And that's not even including that he absolutely cannot demonstrate authorship, in any way whatsoever.

[@hank_says_things]

Mr D, like so many apologists, seems to think that the faster & louder he talks, the more convincing he is. Also like other apologists, he’s tried this line on numerous atheist shows in an effort to build his brand. Sad!

[@aazhie]

As someone with social anxiety this is the worst part. I can handle the delusion, I don't mind belief, it's the frantic "I'm better and smarter than you" shouting and speed talking stresses me out.

[@nathanielthomson6600]

Caller: "I don't do that philosophy stuff..." You are literally engaged in a philosophical debate in this video.

[@jns8393]

*Caller: "I don't do that philosophy stuff..."* Clearly!!

[@Sharetheroad3333]

“Please let me finish my statement” says everyone on the planet who never lets other people talk.

[@TheVicar]

I happily stop listening when people try that on. Then say "Sorry, what did you say? I missed the end bit".

[@mobydickswife9512]

They are so used to carrying on conversations in their own heads they truly don't think other people are answering them.

[@aazhie]

@@mobydickswife9512 oof yes! Their only form of communication is the steamroller

[@kinglyzard]

"I don't do the philosophy thing" [Hits Crack pipe]

[@brucebaker810]

"...I do the Gish Gallop thing."

[@mewho6199]

Hmm. Why crack? Hmm.

[@Vhlathanosh]

@@mewho6199 cause he's rambling like lunatic

[@burningmisery]

​@@mewho6199 Crack or speed.

[@andyrihn1]

“You separated my premises”. Yeah dude that’s how logical refutations work. If any premise doesn’t stand on its own the argument fails

[@aazhie]

XD my ice cream started to melt as soon as I removed it from the freezer!!

[@stoneybologna1982]

This callers demeanor brings to mind the adage about playing chess with a chicken. No matter what, they're just going to knock the pieces over, shit all over the board, and strut around like they won.

[@aazhie]

At least birds are cute, and can often make for good eating xD Still a waste of time, lol

[@sycofreake1]

"Mute this person" Vi kicked so much ass in the following speech! I was like "YEAH! DAMN RIGHT!!!!"

[@aazhie]

YES

[@simeonemascarpone]

You know it's not going to go well when someone starts with the words "I will be an atheist if you can convince me" 🤦‍♂️

[@koljag5]

"You are muted, shut up" that was fantastic. Great job.

[@brianbeattie3305]

The seven day week comes from the sumerians via Babylon, it corresponds to a phase of the moon.

[@andyrihn1]

Actually it’s for the seven “planets”: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn

[@lynettekomidar2819]

@@andyrihn1 hahaha

[@minutemansam1214]

@@lynettekomidar2819 He is right. That is why there are seven days. For the seven planets in Babylonian astronomy. The Sun and The Moon are considered planets in Babylonian astronomy.

[@lynettekomidar2819]

@@andyrihn1 ?? Named after the planets yes. But it corresponds to the phase of the mood as Brian stated above

[@lynettekomidar2819]

@@minutemansam1214 NO

[@lcceo22]

The performative arrogance and grandstanding relative to his argument is damn near impressive.

[@JacquesduPlessis11]

If you are reading this mr delicieux, I stopped caring what you had to say, when you repeatedly failed to listen to the hosts responding to you. If you call again, please allow the hosts to respond, because they really tried to allow you time to respond, and at least if you disagree you might actually respond to what they are saying.

[@richardvastine7486]

Once upon the time Lloyd Evans was cohost on the Atheist Experience and made the observation relative to callers that day. If I am correct his comment was "onslaught of nutters". Mr. Delirious (Delicieux) definitely falls into the ranks of nutters.

[@dhwyll]

"Jesus claimed the 7-day week!" I don't care about who claimed it first. "But that's not important!" So which is it? If it's not important, why is it a proposition?

[@SB-cm9jh]

Vi: "You are muted, shut up." Me (grabbing the popcorn): "This is gonna be good." 😂

[@jayv9779]

I guess after Matt and Dave shot down this idea on AE 25.18, he thought this would be better. He thought wrong.

[@Max-yo4cz]

Kind of a "week argument" if you ask me...

[@Sharetheroad3333]

Haha. Nick behaves like he puts cocaine in his coffee and then when people get fed up, that’s his evidence that he is making spectacular points. Niiiiiiiccceee. Always pleasant to be reminded of the part of the species that will ultimately cause our demise.

[@harrypothead42024]

This man talks so fast I think he is inflicting hypoxia on himself

[@glassmonkeyface8609]

This guy subscribes to the "the louder and faster I talk, and the less I let other people talk, the MORE RIGHT I am!!!!".. and if that fails, just start trying to antagonize the other person to distract from how batshit crazy what you're saying is.

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

The reverse. People do that because they know they're losing.

[@WrvrUgoThrUR]

That title sums up the callers bad argument perfectly!!🤣 basically: “Because humans (almost)universally agreed to a temporal measurement, a god exists.” How can he not see the fault in that premise?! Not to mention that there are cultures outside of “modern industrial” society that have ZERO sense or reference to a 7-day week.

[@miconis123]

Instead of "look at the trees" it's "look at the calender"

[@locutusdborg126]

Google Sentinel Island, the only population that is untouched by civilization. Except for a Christian missionary who was warned multiple times to stay away, to the point where they shot a warning arrow into his bible. But, being American and arrogant, he ignored everyone and swam back, only to be killed. You see, missionaries bring disease (like the cold) and the concept of sin, both things the population does not need or want.

[@WrvrUgoThrUR]

@@miconis123 Matt would have broken this callers argument down to repeated uttering of “so what…so what?!” And the caller’s argument is. I thing more than a mixture of the Argument from Authority and Popularity.

[@trishayamada807]

My friend in Iran lives in a different year. Ok we are in the same time but he uses a different year. He also uses a different hourly time too.

[@petermirtitsch1235]

@@miconis123 consider the Lily.

[@TheVicar]

So God made everything in 6 days and took Sunday off? The problem is God didn't go back into work on the Monday. That's what I call lazy, 6 days work in your entire existence and no response to any emails. No wonder the world is in such a mess.

[@Sharetheroad3333]

I love that you guys do a respectful show and I do realize there are limitations. Lol. He isn’t stable. I feel like I’m at work. I will leave it at that.

[@aazhie]

Lol I have coworkers that fall into this kind of frantic babbling and verbal steamrolling

[@kunedoman]

Oh, okay, because of the 7 day week I should believe in a talking donkey, a lady being turned into a pile of salt, an ark of all worldly species, Sampson defeating an army of 1,000 with just a donkey jaw bone as a weapon (I know, enough of the donkey references already) ???

[@aazhie]

I mean there's a lot of jackassery occurring in this call alone, I can't blame you for perhaps thinking this call was a lot of empty braying xD

[@hank_says_things]

Can I just ask why it seems so improbable for use of a calendar to become widespread out of sheer convenience - or obedience? Why wouldn’t you align your week with a major trading or military partner, or whatever your emperor decrees? In the latter case, it may be seditious to *not* adopt the official calendar. Please help me understand why this is supposed to be compelling. It’s actually worse than “look at the trees.”

[@TheTruthKiwi]

Exactly Hank, nailed it 100%. With all the christian missionaries travelling the world brainwashing everyone and established economies/empires enforcing their rules it is no wonder there's a standardised calendar around most of the world. That is such a piss weak argument for gods.

[@barbiedahl]

One of the first statements out of his mouth is that converting him would basically be a mission impossible thus showing that he is not open to new information or having his mind changed. He's a bad faith interlocutor with a script I'll bet so the only good that can come in engaging with him is in having an audience that is not as close-minded as he is.

[@ThePlumAbides]

Y'all have so much more patience than I do for this level of word salad

[@NanoBurger]

We need to change the Gish Gallop to the Delicieux Gallop.

[@JerryPenna]

Mr. Delici needs to work on the syllogism. The form is not not in p, p c form. But that’s just the start of his issues. It’s just an incoherent mess that makes no sense.

[@jeffparent2159]

Sounds more like he is working with the PCP form

[@mikeyjones5901]

This caller is begging for a perma-ban 😕

[@Heathen.Deity.]

He also has his own awful KZbin channel where he posts the clips from shows like this he’s been on. Unfortunately for his already laughable credibility, he massively edits them in a desperate attempt to appear like he wasn’t shown to be utterly flawed at every stage.

[@samanthaadamson9609]

Litteraly 10 seconds on Google proved him wrong Around the 6th century BC, the Babylonians were a dominant culture in the Near East, and their ideas spread far and wide, including the concept of the seven-day week. The Jews happened to be captives in Babylonia around that time, and adopted the week concept. So did the nearby Persians and the (not yet dominant) Greeks. The Jews already agreed with the Babylonians that "7" is a very cool number indeed; creation in the Jewish tradition (and Jewish-derived traditions, like Christianity) took place in seven days. (Though it’s worth noting two things: first, nobody’s totally sure that the Jewish creation myth actually predates the Babylonian captivity, and second, that “days” in that case probably translates better to something like “periods” or “intervals.”) Anyway, the Jews got on board. The Greeks did, too, and when they began traveling and conquering around the time of Alexander the Great, from 356 to 323 BC, they brought the seven-day week with them as far east as India and, either directly or, more likely, through Indian contacts, to China. The last major society to fall to the tyranny of the seven-day week was the Romans; they had observed a strict 8-day week up until 45 BC, when the Romans adopted the new Julian calendar, which is extremely similar to the Gregorian calendar we use today. The Julian calendar used seven-day weeks, but the Romans observed, weirdly, both seven-day Julian weeks and (to a smaller degree) the older eight-day cycles until Constantine officially banned the eight-day cycle in 321 AD

[@yoredeerleader]

There are exactly 7 things visible in the sky that don’t move with the background stars: sun, moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. The number 7 can organically become culturally important for any civilisation that knows the sky (all of them).

[@reddevilreports3071]

We use Standard time because of UK, Therefore QUEEN ELISABETH RULE THE WORLD 😂😂

[@Corporations8MyBaby]

The fact that he needs to show horn in every single syllable he can and pepper it with ad hom means he is not sure of his argument… he just likes confused listeners. Is that what is god wants him to do when spreading the gospel?

[@austinperkins8348]

If the facts were on your side you would be able to have a coherent discussion and not talk over the people you're trying to convince.

[@johndoe1909]

7 days week is not universal either. Its an arbitrary set of days in various point in time other setups has been invented and been used.as late as during tje french revolurion a ten day week was used... I modern times however nearly all countries has adopted the gregorian calendar, with a 7 day week for practical reasons

[@puckerings]

The caller is not claiming that all nations have always used a 7-day week. He said that NOW all countries use it, and that fulfills a prophecy that it would eventually happen. Now, the fact that there are many tribal societies in the world that do not use such a week refutes his claim. He's relying on the UN representing all people on Earth, which is invalid.

[@williammeck3466]

When you live with nuance free thinking, everything can be defended with such fervor and claim to knowledge.

[@miconis123]

Being able to accurately quote something doesn't mean you understand it. With enough practice, I can memorize a physics paper without having any understanding of it.

[@MAR1N4M1]

This caller was dishonest from the start. Stating that he was going to become atheist if he was proven wrong. He was all over the place and failed to directly respond to almost everything. He was proven wrong. Just not to him.

[@aitorgonzalez4657]

I get the feeling that Mr. D makes me facepalm very often. Like, VERY often.

[@kyleepratt]

9:18 Vi does a **perfect** Kermit drinking tea impression. *Chef's kiss*

[@brianharris7243]

My foot is a foot long therefore.... Yahweh!

[@locutusdborg126]

My inch is...uh, that didn't work out. But still results in Yahweh because our very existence points to him. I'm assuming god's pronouns are he/him.

[@yeungdoug]

One thing he is really good at is post how rationalization. It’s like taking everything related to a seven days week and post job rationalize it back to Christianity.

[@starfishsystems]

The comedy value of these callers is priceless.

[@greendragonreprised6885]

I think the standard 7 day cycle of the week comes from the 7 Heavenly bodies the ancients could see moving across the sky. Those are Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the Sun and the Moon. We still retain the names of the days given to Saturn, the Sun and Moon (in English). So this pre-dates Christianity by thousands of years.

[@miconis123]

The names of our days are also not very Christian.

[@romankvapil9184]

Thursday is the translated and changed version of Thor’s day. The seven day week is anything BUT founded by the Christian theology.

[@locutusdborg126]

Babylonians invented the 7 day week, WAY before Christianity or the Hebrew bible existed.

[@AnotherViewer]

@@locutusdborg126 They also came up with the 60 minute hour and 60 seconds to a minute because they used a sexagesimal (counting in 60s) system for mathematics and astronomy.

[@Julian0101]

In spanish 6 of those 7 are retained, the only one that changed was sunday. Also, the reason why christianity uses the number 7 is becasue that number was already established as a magical number before even the old testament existed.

[@santicruz4012]

I just did a quick google search and I found out that Aztecs had a week of 13 days.

[@Jprimus]

Neil DeGrasse Tyson does a very interesting video on the calendar and how many days in a year and all that stuff, none of it to prove god. Gotta love the whole "I'm right and I am going to ignore your counter arguments". Eyeroll

[@cameroncimmerius1203]

My understanding is that it comes from how it takes roughly seven days for the moon to move from one phase to another. We know people used the moon to keep track of time, some cultures still do. Seven days is convenient, we can manage that amount in our heads which we couldn't do with a year or a full moon cycle and we can compare it to the moon to see if we have miscounted. And another thing, I'm no biblical scholar but I'm not familiar with anywhere in the bible where it says we would submit to the seven day cycle. It wouldn't prove anything if it did, but it puts his argument on even weaker ground. I think 40 days is referenced far more often anyway.

[@wax99]

I've heard it once before but I can't remember what channel, most likely AXP. And he did say he brought it up to matt too so I could be talking about the same guy.

[@davisantos3431]

@@wax99 yes, it was exaclty him who was on the axp with Matt and Dave

[@jimroberts1943]

Exodus 20:10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

[@davisantos3431]

@@jimroberts1943 ??????????

[@minutemansam1214]

@@davisantos3431 The reasoning is due to the seven planets in Babylonian astronomy. This is why there is seven days of the week. The Sun, The Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. This is why it's Sunday (the Sun's Day), Monday (The Moon's Day), Tuesday (Tiw's Day, Romans equated him with Mars), Wednesday (Woden's Day, Romans equated him with Mercury), Thursday (Thor's day, Romans equated him with Jupiter), Friday (Frig's day, Romans equated her with Venus), and Saturday (Saturn's day).

[@mickio9877]

Thank you Eric, I always knew if there was a God they would be British, and probably from Northumberland. Actually the bible is similar to the the British national anthem, God save our gracious God (Queen)

[@michaelm8529]

Based true northerner! Shame God didn't save the Queen though

[@scottmoore7588]

I bursted out laughing when the caller told Eric that he seemed agitated because the caller was nothing but agitated the whole damn call XD

[@Nivola1953]

In Italian and all Latin rooted languages the days of the week are inspired to Greek/Roman mythology, with Monday and Sunday dedicated to Moon and Sun, like in English where there is an influence of Nordic religion like in Thor’s day, totally pagan, no Jesus in sight. Guess Mr. Dely here will claim cultural appropriation.

[@andyrihn1]

“The Babylonians used a 29 day lunar cycle not a 7 day week.” That 29 day cycle is the basis for months. The Babylonians did have a 7 day week which isn’t surprising given they thought there were 7 “planets” (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn)

[@minutemansam1214]

@@MrOttopants Especially given that these people lived in the Middle East, where seasonal variation is mostly from wet-dry season, not the four seasons we experience. So they used a lunar calendar. Further north people tended to use Solar calendars since those are better for keeping track of the seasons.

[@MarceldeJong]

And thus the Church of Vi was created! For they made a prophecy that they would hung up on a gishgallop and they did and saw that it was right.

[@grantlauzon5237]

A 5 day week would divide into 365.25 better. So I guess Jesus messed it up. 73.05 weeks in a year.

[@not-a-theist8251]

the 7 day week is older than christianity though lol

[@FeeFyeFoeLLC]

Every human on earth needs oxygen to breathe! That's power!

[@sparky8878]

The caller fails to reconize that talking about something requires that you actually listen to others and not just talk than wait for your turn again to talk.

[@NubianNarrator]

"People in China don't call Wednesday, Wednesday." I should think so; they don't speak English. It's Cantonese or Mandarin, mate!

[@SPL0869]

I started listening to The AXP and it’s related content about six years back or better. Outside of possibly Matt Slick, has ANY theist ever called the show that wasn’t dishonest, on drugs or simply batshit crazy?

[@Josiah_Cornett]

I wouldn’t characterize all callers that way. I wouldn’t even characterize MOST callers that way. There have been plenty of good callers or at the very least honest callers.

[@SPL0869]

@@Josiah_Cornett I’m not saying that every caller checks all three boxes. But I’m having a hard time remembering the ones that don’t check any.

[@unkaumanguy1439]

When your argument cannot be supported in any way, you can only argue dishonesty.

[@puckerings]

Wait - are you saying that Matt Slick was neither dishonest, on drugs, nor simply batshit crazy. I suspect the first and third apply to him extremely well.

[@SPL0869]

@@puckerings I’ll give you that one! Lol. Ole Matt Slick is definitely dishonest.

[@Justwosweet]

Is this why anyone believes in God. Is this what convinced Mr. Delicioso

[@CraggRock]

Talk about circular reasoning! If he circles any faster he'll disappear up his own backside!

[@kaihedgie1747]

I think this guy is a troll

[@admrs6822]

Tbh, I got the feeling he was honest but extremely anxious and insecure. It could be an internal issue, could be amphetamines, either way, he is impossible to understand without a speed knob.

[@romankvapil9184]

He’s not. Dude has a KZbin channel of him with his own vids “debating” atheists and doctoring the footage to make himself seem like the rational one. He’s not a person any rational and honest person should associate themselves with.

[@nobeoddy1664]

gad, these rapid fire yakkers are so hysterical

[@TheAntiburglar]

The fact that the seven day week dates back to the 21st Century BCE Babylonians and NOT Jesus is not a good start for Mr. Nick Delicious. >.> Edit: Watching this dude continually run face-first into a wall trying to overrun your arguments and simultaneously ignore every single thing you've said is mind blowing. Once again, your patience levels are saintly o.O

[@49perfectss]

"...it's also stupid" fucking gold Vi!

[@DefendUrPolicyDontScapegoatLie]

This kid is throwing a hissy fit because this is his ONE AND ONLY piece of evidence.

[@MurshidIslam]

Never before have I heard anyone say such a load of BS with such confidence and condescension. Oh, wait, no, I've heard WLC speak.

[@deviantoutcast]

8:53 What's he saying? I've listened to it somewhere between 10 - 15 times - I even switched from amplified surround system, to noise cancelling headphones to try and get as close to my brain as possible ('cause that's how it works, right? The ear's just the built-in, standard feature, portable, carry-on ear trumpet, sucking in soundwaves from the surrounding, into a tube leading straight into the cerebral cortex, right? Yeah, so just as I though then. Perfect. Okey.). But I still can't make out what he says that renders the outstanding respons that is the looks on Eric's and Vi's faces, and the sharing of looks between them. It must have been... well, something - something really something! - but what?

[@tsnide34]

Same. Would love to know. Seems to have slipped in one more little jab right after acting apologetic.

[@Cellidor]

Good lords, does he even breathe? More to the point, does he think that the faster you can belt out your argument, the more accurate it is? Cripes dude, slow down and take a moment, it's not a race. You're not doing your argument _any_ favors when you vomit it out like a chihuahua hyped up on crack.

[@bassmit7]

I've heard this guy try his shtick on all possible channels. He's the posterchild for Dunning-Kruger.

[@ianmccoll7907]

This "Delicieux'character is why I think faith based ideas produce a mental issue within peoples brains.

[@richtraube2241]

Moon has phases, therefore god. Hmm..... Maybe not.

[@Karras353]

I think you were on the right track with Rome tbh. Their military conquests in the latter days of the empire (western in particular) may have been limited but the roman church was a dominant force in Europe for a long time. Christianity did not need to conquer through force of arms to impose its will, though they did that on occasion too. For a substantial portion of our history much of the scholarly world and also record keeping would have been centered on the church, so it makes a lot of sense that they would also have influenced how time was measured.

[@dwendt44]

The seven day cycle is based on the phases of the moon. The 28 day 'month' as well.

[@romankvapil9184]

Some of the name of the days in that week are Norse based.

[@dwendt44]

@@romankvapil9184 6 of them.

[@minutemansam1214]

It's not based on the phases of the moon. It's based on the seven planets in Babylonian astronomy: The Sun, The Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. And only four days are named after Germanic gods. Tuesday (Tiw or Tyr), Wednesday (Woden or Odin), Thursday (Thunar or Thor), and Friday (Frig or Frigg). Saturday is named after Saturn, Sunday is named after the Sun, and Monday is named after the Moon.

[@minutemansam1214]

@@romankvapil9184 Anglo-Saxon, not Norse. They by and large worshipped the same gods, but we use those gods because the Anglo-Saxons worshipped them. But it's not the Germanic pagans who necessarily named the days that. It's because the Romans named the days after their gods, and the Romans had a tendency to equivocate their gods with other gods. Tuesday was dies Martis. Day of Mars, because Tiw (Norse Tyr) was considered by the Romans to be their name for Mars. (Odin was Mercury, Thor was Jupiter, Frig was Venus).

[@petermirtitsch1235]

@@minutemansam1214 That doesn't work if Wotan was the highest if the gods. He'd have to equivocate with Greek god Zeus, but Zeus doubles up as god of lightning. Thing is, he could also double for Jove/Jupiter, the Roman god.

[@kr00m]

Does the use of Arabic numerals and algebra mean Islam is true too?

[@koljag5]

I've messaged back and forth with this guy on KZbin, he's persistent, but really has a different standard for prophecy.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

He replied to me a couple of times once. It was painful just how many flawed arguments he provides. He also shows just how dishonest he is by how he has posted at least one video clip from the Atheist Experience (where he gave the same argument and was slapped down just as easily), but he massively edited the clip in a desperate attempt to make it seem like the hosts were wrong. The whole attempt was woeful, but just shows he’s as equally incompetent as he is dishonest.

[@locutusdborg126]

@@Heathen.Deity. He is really brainwashed and is not bright enough to find his way out.

[@bb1111116]

The caller has a strong confirmation bias. He is convinced that the ancient Babylonians did not have a seven day week. They did. It was just that they had 3 - 7 day weeks and then a final week of 8 to 9 days. But the caller either ignores or is unaware of that. The caller quickly shifts arguments saying that Jesus was a Greek name. True, then the caller says Jesus’ name was Yeshua in Hebrew. OK, but that is Joshua, a common Jewish name. * Anyway, from Wikipedia about the origin of 7 day weeks. “the Babylonians celebrated every seventh day as a "holy-day", also called an "evil-day" (meaning "unsuitable" for prohibited activities). On these days officials were prohibited from various activities ... Tablets from the sixth-century BC reigns of Cyrus the Great and Cambyses II indicate these dates were sometimes approximate. The lunation of 29 or 30 days basically contained three seven-day weeks, and a final week of eight or nine days inclusive, breaking the continuous seven-day cycle.[6]”

[@cmack17]

Claim: an assertion of something as a fact Assertion: a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason Even if Jesus made an exclusive claim to a 7 day cycle... So what?

[@tomsmith7742]

The seven day-per-week cycle derives from the lunar cycle, not the Bible. It is a cycle that has existed for 4 billion years- roughly 4 billion years longer than the Bible has been around. It is a four-part cycle to which every human being with two eyes and a brain has been privy (New, Waxing Crescent, Full, Waning Crescent). The word "month" itself derives from the Moon (which is why American Indians used the word "moon" to describe a unit of time). Western society has never been very careful about its time keeping, and that's why a week is 7 days instead of 7-point- something days. We just like to round ugly numbers down to whole numbers. The Mayans, for instance, had a week that was wildly accurate, to within a few seconds of 1/4 of a lunar month (the approximately 29.5 days this maniac kept referring to. Does that make the Mayans better Christians than modern Christians are?

[@mebesceptic]

Thank you Vi.

[@Frynge357]

"...I don't know if you were paying attention..." wow. the arrogance on this guy!

[@tastytumors9490]

If arrogance were a powersource this man could power earth for 1000 years.

[@suburban-vampire]

Why is it that the people who think "I should call in with my universal truth!" are also the people who don't know how to not use speaker phone? Like, God's team always has the worst audio quality...

[@garlandgarrett9806]

They think Jesus is Emmanuel. Wrong.

[@KiteDoodle]

The bible quote Mr Delicieux gives in AE 25.18 from Isaiah 66:23 is, '"From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,” says the LORD.' This is far from happening, there are lots of non believers in the Abrahamic god or whatever. Saying the 7 day cycle is enough proof is terrible.

[@Wheres_the_money_lebowski]

The moon has 4 phases over a 28 day period, 28/4 is 7. That's where it came from. Stupidity and arrogance are a dangerous combination.

[@lovelyguy5345]

I just want to say I am a Christian, but you have the weirdest religious people ring in and it makes me giggle. Lol.

[@lovelyguy5345]

And your patience is amazing

[@michjefferson77]

Yeah i'm afraid these are the types that call in. I think he found like some ancient secret like in the national treasure.

[@johnwestcott5612]

Jesse really revealed himself as a true monster here, telling us all that babies should suffer. I also don’t know how he graduated or why.

[@sfprivateer]

What is it with these most out-there callers? When their agenda fails in one show, they seriously think they have more success in other shows and just keep browsing for million forums until they find one who agrees with them and BOOM MY THEORY PROVEN CORRECT! ???

[@Sampaxi]

I applaud the people on this channel who keep playing mental chess with pigeons. If I was religious I would say you are doing gods work :D

[@RealTimePogo]

52 weeks in a year proves a deck of cards

[@sadderwhiskeymann]

OMG! He is right!!! 7 days/week therefore gawd. I now believe! Amen 🙏🙏🙏 (💅)

[@pandora8610]

IF the verse in question prophesies that all nations will follow the Hebrew week (which seems an extremely tenuous interpretation to me - as far as I can tell it just says that everyone's gonna worship Yahweh all the time), it still fails. Because if we accept that interpretation it must also predict that the whole word will follow the months of the Hebrew calendar. After all, it speaks about flesh worshiping from "one new moon to another" in exactly the same way that it talks about flesh worshiping from "on Sabbath to another". Whoops! And that phrasing, "one Sabbath to another", implies that the week would start and finish on Saturday evening, as the Sabbath was measured from Friday evening to Saturday evening. As long as anyone's counting from midnight or counting Monday as the first day of the week, or any other variation, that's another unfulfilled prophecy. Whoops! And of course, it doesn't say that all mankind will follow the Hebrew calendar, it says that all flesh will come to worship before the Hebrew god. Meaning that it's a prophecy designed to motivate believers, not convince unbelievers. For it to be fulfilled, there can't be any unbelievers. Our mere existence proves that it's unfulfilled. Whoops!

[@freddan6fly]

Seven days, one of the most dishonest caller all time.

[@llwpeaches]

If Jesus supposedly gave us the 7 day week, then why did we name them after pagan gods?

[@nex_1ne]

Man that hold button looks shinny.

[@northernbrother1258]

Vi and Eric need to take call mute lessons from Matt Dillahunty!