The Shangri-Las on Entertainment Tonight 1989

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@Marsena
@Marsena 8 жыл бұрын
No fake groups will do! The original Shangri-Las will always be the ones I regard as the real deal. I'll listen to the real thing!
@tonyfriend7413
@tonyfriend7413 7 жыл бұрын
At Marsena.. Just like Coca-Cola rite? It's The Real Thang! 7.01 am 5/29/17
@Marsena
@Marsena 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@jackanthony976
@jackanthony976 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Shangrilas should never have quit...you can see what happens when you throw away fame to become housewives.
@spideraxis
@spideraxis Жыл бұрын
I feel the same.
@nicolegalloway634
@nicolegalloway634 9 ай бұрын
​@@spideraxis me too
@ronninj
@ronninj 8 жыл бұрын
Supporting the real Shangri-las all the way
@araymond1able
@araymond1able 5 жыл бұрын
Good but the New Shangri-las have already stole and made out.
@donmartin986
@donmartin986 2 жыл бұрын
Let's all just never forget the original Shangri-las ! Brilliant act with 3 (or 4 ! ) beautiful young women. Always loved them and all of their hit records.
@SuperBigblue19
@SuperBigblue19 4 жыл бұрын
That producer acting like he was shocked that they were pretending to be the original group was as fake as his fake Shangri-Las.
@bonkeydollocks1879
@bonkeydollocks1879 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahahaha 👍🏼😷
@reesemorgan2259
@reesemorgan2259 2 жыл бұрын
I felt like I was watching a parody about the music business. I laughed out loud. He wasn't even fully committed to the lie. His mouth was curling up at the ends.
@veneration1
@veneration1 11 ай бұрын
At least he wasn't dumb enough to admit it on camera at least I guess.
@vincentm614
@vincentm614 4 жыл бұрын
Its now March 2020 and two of the original 4 members have since passed. But even today through the lens of 31 years later that guy stealing their name and sending out a fake group is sleazy!!
@squeakyandpepper6658
@squeakyandpepper6658 Жыл бұрын
Which ones passed ?
@jehobden
@jehobden 10 ай бұрын
@@squeakyandpepper6658 The identical twins, Mary Ann (died in 1970) & Marge (died in 1996) Ganser. Marge was on ET w/ the Weiss sisters.
@ivanrosa3254
@ivanrosa3254 9 ай бұрын
The lead singer, Mary Weiss just passed away on January 19, 2024
@blueeyedsquirrel2
@blueeyedsquirrel2 4 жыл бұрын
The Original Shangri-las!! You are Rockin Roll History!!! How dare those imposters!! My heart goes out to The Original Shangri-las!! Your number one fan!! Robert Bigaouette
@dean828
@dean828 9 ай бұрын
Mary Weiss (28 Dec 1948 - 19 Jan 2024) has passed on, age 75. Her sister, Elizabeth "Betty" Weiss (lead singer on "Leader of the Pack") is the last living Shangri-La...
@franko6677
@franko6677 9 ай бұрын
Mary was the lead singer on Leader of the Pack.
@KingOFuh
@KingOFuh 9 ай бұрын
Mary was the lead singer on every Shangri-La hit. @@franko6677
@scatrrr
@scatrrr 9 ай бұрын
New York Dolls
@63Kava
@63Kava 10 жыл бұрын
For a minute or two I actually thought this guy was a SNL parody of an entertainment lawyer....
@Blabette
@Blabette 3 жыл бұрын
It’s almost 2021, I’m 16 years old, and I’m a fan of The Shangri-Las. I hope they make a comeback.
@blairseely7394
@blairseely7394 3 жыл бұрын
They're old AF, and half of them are dead.
@Blabette
@Blabette 3 жыл бұрын
@@blairseely7394 They’re only in their 60’s and Mary’s voice was the most important anyway.
@kenotube3160
@kenotube3160 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blabette Mary has made new solo recordings not long ago. Her voice has gotten deep. I think she's 72 now.
@kb6kgx
@kb6kgx 2 жыл бұрын
@@blairseely7394 unnecessary comment
@blairseely7394
@blairseely7394 2 жыл бұрын
@@kb6kgx It's just the truth. The twins died years ago.
@christianlegault6330
@christianlegault6330 9 жыл бұрын
What a slimeball...he just drips with greed
@michelineshort9822
@michelineshort9822 8 жыл бұрын
Christian LeGault
@QueenlySweetpea
@QueenlySweetpea 4 жыл бұрын
Christian LeGault .. Who is " he " ??
@TimBurVlogs
@TimBurVlogs 4 жыл бұрын
He looks exactly like someone who would do that,
@benson2873
@benson2873 3 жыл бұрын
@@QueenlySweetpea Can’t believe he’s like that.
@yoga4u283
@yoga4u283 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's a scumbag
@paintbokx
@paintbokx 4 жыл бұрын
Entertainment Tonight did a good job with this story. Really did some real investigative reporting. And even dug up alot of old video of shangri-las TV performances.
@Musicblue22
@Musicblue22 9 жыл бұрын
they need a movie biopic done on them
@Dougdenslowe714
@Dougdenslowe714 8 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@Musicblue22
@Musicblue22 8 жыл бұрын
+doug denslowe just not done by lifetime though lol
@Dougdenslowe714
@Dougdenslowe714 8 жыл бұрын
+babybluemusic42.7 oh,I agree.It would have to been done right.If it's done "on the cheap" it would do more harm than good.There are great films done about singers of every description.Some,like Buddy Holly,were great.Others are trash,too many to name.This group has so many unanswered questions;what happened to Mary's sister,Betty?Im dying to know.This group was so controversial,it needs to be told.This is a producers' opportunity to make a film and get some attention.I say producer, because there are so many rich guys ,with nothing to do with their money.A director or actor would have to be good ,to get noticed,where a producer just puts up the money.
@Eddieb715
@Eddieb715 5 жыл бұрын
Who would play Mary?
@TahtahmesDiary
@TahtahmesDiary 3 жыл бұрын
@@Musicblue22 Yeah they always drop the ball smdh
@EAP--
@EAP-- 4 жыл бұрын
Those ladies were the talent. Their management dropped the ball 55-60 years ago. The rights to the Shangri Las name should have been nailed down. Protected from loopholes and fast talking, ethically challenged attorneys.
@missdee4927
@missdee4927 4 жыл бұрын
exactly.
@jackjules7552
@jackjules7552 Жыл бұрын
According to Shadow Morton who was the original Shangrilas's producer, the Shangrilas walked out of their contract in 1968 without notice or reason and just sort of disappeared for years. The record company did not even know where to contact them for recording sessions that had been set up for them in 1968. In fact, the Shangrilas were supposed to record Society's Child written by Janis Ian but no one knew where the Shangrilas had gone. So the girls are partly responsible for this happening to them..
@donaldgruntz9999
@donaldgruntz9999 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you don't have a lawyer and you sign with the company
@KiMi-uh9hx
@KiMi-uh9hx 9 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Mary...Betty is the last one left.
@rapman5791
@rapman5791 8 ай бұрын
Sweaty Betty….knocked up at 17
@jefferygoodman9928
@jefferygoodman9928 5 ай бұрын
@@rapman5791 Awful comment, maybe that’s how u came into this world?
@chrishultgren777
@chrishultgren777 22 күн бұрын
​@@rapman5791noice
@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III
@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III 10 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the Drifters situation, I used to work for the last of the original Drifters to tour under the name and at the same time there were multiple other groups touring under the Drifters name and singing their songs.
@bobalan3179
@bobalan3179 11 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Maryann, Margie and Betty. I'll never forget them rehearsing at the front gates of Andrew Jackson High School before we went in to class.
@viralbuthow000
@viralbuthow000 4 жыл бұрын
Betty still alive
@MoyaBrennan6825
@MoyaBrennan6825 3 жыл бұрын
u still alive?
@goldencheese7247
@goldencheese7247 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing story! 😯🙃
@garyvandecar2580
@garyvandecar2580 2 жыл бұрын
Only the Ganser Twins have passed away, Elizabeth Betty Weiss is still very much alive.
@SebastianSmith-c5t
@SebastianSmith-c5t 9 ай бұрын
Mary Just died a few days ago.
@hoss73ford
@hoss73ford 10 жыл бұрын
sadly, Marge died 7 years after this broadcast, she was only 48.
@rapman5791
@rapman5791 8 ай бұрын
Be sure and tell ‘em large Marge sent ya!!
@MargauxHemingway
@MargauxHemingway 4 жыл бұрын
Bananarama are still performing after 40 years! The Shangri-Las could have been performing up until the 2000s! That sleaze man stealing their name!
@jpolar394
@jpolar394 6 жыл бұрын
The last time I saw Mary Weiss was at a outdoor concert in Hoboken New Jersey around 7 years ago. She was performing with a band and she was singing her songs by herself. No Shangri Las. (The other 2 women were not there) But she can still belt them out. Go get them Mary and don't let anyone stop you. You sound terrific!
@Motown65
@Motown65 17 жыл бұрын
The good news is that Mary Weiss returned last year with a whole new album and she is singing again and sounds great!!!!
@akshaykumarjha9136
@akshaykumarjha9136 3 жыл бұрын
You know I'm a bit late. But thank gods. I'd recently discovered them and will follow her career with great interest.
@tomaugustine1295
@tomaugustine1295 3 жыл бұрын
Mary and Betty need to make an appearance and let everyone know who they are and are to be treated as respected entertainers! Vegas is waiting for you ladies!
@monto39
@monto39 2 жыл бұрын
God, Mary and Betty Weiss are a hot pair of sisters. Betty especially looks amazing in this
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
Yes, here they are a quarter of a century later and still extremely beautiful inside and out to match their talents. Having Queens accents didn't hurt either. Viva the Weiss sisters.
@chriscampbell9191
@chriscampbell9191 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that record store had CDs in long-boxes. What a time trip. As for the subject matter, the fake band saying it was 'our hit' -- that's taking it to the limit.
@Soapking1965
@Soapking1965 15 жыл бұрын
Yes. In June 1989, Mary, Betty and Margie performed together for the last time at a Cousin Brucie show in New Jersey.
@alfx5432
@alfx5432 20 күн бұрын
Was it recorded I hope.
@rospinner
@rospinner 13 жыл бұрын
@RareMusicalGems I grew up with the Shangri-Las and was in Betty's class. We were so proud of their accomplishments! A few years ago, I attended a doo wop concert where the "Shangri-Las" were billed (I knew it would be fakes). We sat on the aisle seats and when they left the stage, I reached out to one of them and said, "How dare you refer to these songs as one of YOUR original hits?" They got very embarrassed, and rightly so. Fox is a slease-bag, and opportunist parasite.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
What a great high school story. Thank you for sharing. I'll bet that was a great time and place to grow up. Where all girls from Queens so beautiful then? I imagine Betty was actually the shy and unassuming type. Did she go by Liz in school?
@Corporations8MyBaby
@Corporations8MyBaby Жыл бұрын
Am I the same age as Betty/Liz's daughter? She had such poise and such a powerful sound. I'd love to know if she was a happy high schooler.
@alfx5432
@alfx5432 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@drivinsouth651
@drivinsouth651 8 жыл бұрын
Crooks; they ripped off EVERYTHING; except originality.
@sporting06
@sporting06 18 жыл бұрын
Those girls who call themselves the Shangri-las don't even come close to the originals.Mary Weiss you are the greatest! along with your sister and the twins[rip].
@mikemin100
@mikemin100 8 жыл бұрын
They will never be like the original Shangri - las
@dennylabranche947
@dennylabranche947 4 жыл бұрын
Great group Way better than the Supremes📺
@Emleandroo
@Emleandroo 11 жыл бұрын
The "new" shangri-las were horrible!!!! The original are so amazing♥
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 4 жыл бұрын
There's only one shangrilas and no one else never will replace them!
@pbamse
@pbamse 9 ай бұрын
MARY WEISS (1948 - 2024)
@coffeesnob7600
@coffeesnob7600 4 жыл бұрын
The Shangri Las (original) were rippid off in the 60' 70' 80' 90'... they never got their due recognition. Sadly also only remembered for one or two songs, when in matter of fact all their output was absolutely fantastic, not to mention their influance they had on many to this day.
@kb6kgx
@kb6kgx 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, MOST of those groups from that era were only remembered for one or two songs. Yet, many of them recorded a lot of material that was just never heard on mainstream radio.
@horarwgt
@horarwgt 16 жыл бұрын
I hosted a concert at Playland in Rye, NY around 1988 that was billed as starring The Shangri-Las -- and was shocked to go backstage before the show and meet the fake quartet -- all obviously not even BORN in the '60s. Incensed, I refused to introduce them onstage as The Shangri-Las. Instead, I spoke of the REAL group and retitled the show "a tribute." Afterwards I told Fox to go to hell. BTW -- the real girls won their suit against the jerk. Sadly, Marge died of breast cancer in 1998.
@hoderharris
@hoderharris 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment 13 years ago. I was scrolling through the comments to see what happened to the law suit. Good for you for refusing to introduce them as the regular group. Cheers
@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782
@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782 Жыл бұрын
@@hoderharris Same here, 1 year later December 2022
@robertpolhemus6584
@robertpolhemus6584 Жыл бұрын
@@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782 I knew one of the fakes. The so-called lead singer.was a pleasant enough person but as my Band The Teemates backed the real girls several times in the 60s.Could not help but stifle. a go to hell. (Bobby of the Teemates)
@christheone8773
@christheone8773 14 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that Mary Wilson, one of the original Supremes, spearheaded a campaign to prevent "new' groups from using the group names if there aren't any original members included-
@spideraxis
@spideraxis 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best girl groups of the 1960s. They lived a short distance from where my home was at the time.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
Did you attend Andrew Jackson High School as well? Do you have any Shangri-Las stories to share? Did you have a chance to see them perform, specifically with Betty singing lead vocals on some songs? Any reply would be appreciated. Viva the Shangs!
@spideraxis
@spideraxis Жыл бұрын
@@davidjackson7281 No, I lived a little distance away. My cousin went to Jackson High School, I believe the time they went there. I knew in which house they lived, and have a newspaper article about it. I have passed the home, it is kept in good condition. Their music was always popular among my peers, and we heard it often on the radio. What I liked about them was that their songs weren't sappy sweet. Instead, they bespoke teenage tragedies. By one's teens, a person knows everything in life is not all happiness and joy. I never saw them perform. They stopped performing shortly after breakup, and unfortunately had their own tragedies after that. The news article explains it. It's a shame, in the history of pop music their songs and messages were of an entirely different element than other groups from the 1960s. It was for all audiences. In honesty, I would rather listen to their music than just about anything recorded today. The Shangri-Las have withstood the test of time. Hope I was able to give you useful information.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
@@spideraxis Thank you very much. I believe I may have seen that very local newspaper article where the nice Ganser house is on 221st. Nice to read your answer. I believe the Weiss house was on 219th. I get confused so it might be the reverse. Yes, they sang the best teenage angst songs. Their career was way too short. They were very unique in a lot of ways. Trend setters and future influencers within the music industry.They are timeless like you said. It's been way cool chatting with you.
@spideraxis
@spideraxis Жыл бұрын
@@davidjackson7281 The article was in the Queens Chronicle July 30, 2020. It shows the home of the Ganser twins on 219 Street in Cambria Heights. Do you know what became of the lawsuit?
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
@@spideraxis Thanks so much for the info. That was the article I had remembered seeing. I just enjoyed reading it again. Regarding the lawsuit, the best I can ascertain from comments on YT (perhaps from one or two of the 534 comments in this video) is it was settled in that the real group could perform with their name as they did for that last reunion time in 1989 I believe it was at CBGB. An agreement was reached that they would receive some kind of compensation for each imposter show. Again, this is way cool corresponding with you on a topic dear to my heart. The article also explains the origin of the name which is interesting for anyone not familiar with that. As you probably know Dick Fox passed away last June. So the Weiss sisters outlived him. I don't denigrate the dead.
@NICKPOFFAUTHOR
@NICKPOFFAUTHOR 12 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing I didn't know about this in 1989. I would have gathered up every hardcore Shangs fan I knew, found this guy, and uh...made him change his mind. You do NOT mess with those girls OR their fans!
@araymond1able
@araymond1able 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds good but it has already happened. It continues to happen in every form of ripping people or things off for fame and all the money it brings.
@Marsena
@Marsena 11 жыл бұрын
Betty and Mary are both still living; it is the twin sisters who are deceased
@gevansmd1
@gevansmd1 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way Fox pretends he's shocked that the new band pretends to be the original band. I think he was actually shocked that it was caught on tape. What a slime.
@moondogaudiojones1146
@moondogaudiojones1146 7 жыл бұрын
Such a shame! what a slimy thing to do...and then who told the newbies to say "our first number one"...!
@spacedoginnebraska
@spacedoginnebraska 9 жыл бұрын
the slime is thick here
@rick4electric
@rick4electric 3 жыл бұрын
"That's why I made them young!" Only a lawyer could say that!
@fgldnglbs
@fgldnglbs 9 жыл бұрын
This reminds of what happened to Dennis Yost, who did want to perform(the Classics IV's songs were more transcendent of age). . At least he got the rights to the Classics IV name back before he died.
@AppleSlicesUnite
@AppleSlicesUnite 3 жыл бұрын
Back in those days, I would imagine it was a time when no one sued each other over what is clearly not there's, etc... so they didn't think to trademark the name. That guy knows what he's doing. what a scumbag.
@SteveBrant55
@SteveBrant55 9 ай бұрын
RIP Mary Weiss. Died in January 2024
@gman-xd5hd
@gman-xd5hd 2 ай бұрын
The old Shangra-las will now be known as The Jackson Five.
@sgtjeff56
@sgtjeff56 14 жыл бұрын
About 20 years ago in 1990 or '91 I went to the Dick Fox Rock & Roll Revival at Westbury Music Fair on Long Island and saw the Shangri-Las. (I guess I never saw the Entertainment Tonight episode the year before and all these years until I saw this on KZbin a few mos. ago I really thought I saw the real group and couldn't believe how young they looked. I FEEL SO CHEATED!!! Thank G-d for KZbin!!!
@odonna17
@odonna17 11 жыл бұрын
Those dark-haired twins scared the life out of me then in the 1960s as a kid -and some of these records still do ! Great music and what a great singer Mary was -only about 15 at the time -great memories -joyce s.
@cookiesdaddy
@cookiesdaddy 16 жыл бұрын
Look at Mary rolling her eyes at 1:35....love her!!
@michael0.770
@michael0.770 4 жыл бұрын
It's almost funny, Richard Fox refers to himself in the interview as Dick, and that's exactly what he was.
@sporting06
@sporting06 4 жыл бұрын
when these fake shangri-las showed up at Rye Playland,NY. in the mid-90's I was in the audience. I had my panasonic[vhs]camera and started to record them.all of a sudden this guy comes over and try to yank my camera away.now I know why.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
There were still imposters in the mid-90s? Did you know they were before you paid admission? Not judging, just curious, just asking.
@sporting06
@sporting06 Жыл бұрын
@@davidjackson7281 it was a free concert.nonetheless I was disappointed because one of the fake Shangri-las was a tall blonde pretending to be MARY WEISS.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
@@sporting06 Free or not that sounds no bueno. Thanks for sharing. Sorry for the disappointment.
@fabricadojoe
@fabricadojoe 7 жыл бұрын
Only one Shangri-Las. The rest are just tribute bands. Or worse.
@samuelparker9882
@samuelparker9882 4 жыл бұрын
fabricadojoe It's just sad that people no longer can even attempt to be original with name or musical content. What a sad white dude.
@MeMeDaVinci
@MeMeDaVinci 2 жыл бұрын
The copyright reverts to when the work was produced and by whom. When the album came out, what the liner notes say, and the photographs. It happened to other bands as well. It's why the ruling came down that a group has to have at least one original member to continue being called the name. Ownership (who has the original rights) is everything.
@MACTRUQUE
@MACTRUQUE 4 жыл бұрын
What an amazing nuance in the history of that word.
@DRIVEIN101
@DRIVEIN101 Жыл бұрын
What a crock! Those girls in the fake group were undoubtedly in grade school or younger when Mary, Betty, Margie and Mary Ann were churning out their hits.
@Musicblue22
@Musicblue22 4 жыл бұрын
They need a biopic
@tapmuroc
@tapmuroc 8 жыл бұрын
Betty and Mary were still hot 25 years later!
@alanmurr6562
@alanmurr6562 5 жыл бұрын
Mary and the twins were as beautiful as you could be. So how do you rate Betty? She was the most beautiful woman ever. Not even Betty Davis was as gorgeous as Betty Weiss! I'd love to see Betty today, I'm sure at 72 she is still beautiful. Not even age can take that kind of beauty away. I LOVE YOU BETTY WEISS!!!!!!!!!!
@billwinnbustos8587
@billwinnbustos8587 5 жыл бұрын
tapmuroc deffent
@StandWatie1862
@StandWatie1862 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanmurr6562 Not even shitting in diapers
@blahblah606
@blahblah606 4 жыл бұрын
@@StandWatie1862 That's a shitty thing to say ;) But seriously NO! Beauty is generated from the soul not the skin.
@tryithere
@tryithere 14 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of record compilations they had back in the 70's sung by "The Original Artists". Turned out the name of the group was "The Original Artists". There is always some piece of crap out to try and rip off people by being a sleaze bag.
@alfx5432
@alfx5432 4 ай бұрын
I can't belive someone wouldn't do such a thing.
@lincbond442
@lincbond442 4 жыл бұрын
Those Weiss sisters were looking really good in the 1980's, especially Betty.
@TTM9691
@TTM9691 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me so angry, and hurt for those three women who gave the world so much. They got ripped off over and over and over again. I'm disgusted. How could anybody else other than these three women even THINK of going onstage as The Shangri-Las? I know they weren't the first to be ripped off - and I know lots of their contemporaries got similarly screwed - but for crying out loud, these girls held their own against THE BEATLES. When virtually NO ONE could. They should have gotten medals from the American Army of Rock And Roll! If I remember correctly, they lost their court case, and these imposters continued to do appearances. Those fake-Shangri Las should be ashamed of themselves.
@ShakaCthulu
@ShakaCthulu Жыл бұрын
The Shangs should be in the RnR Hall Of Fame. Probably the most influential group from the 60’s not inducted. Decades of chart-topping musicians both male & female have cited them as a major influence, the list of cover versions & homages is long.
@TTM9691
@TTM9691 Жыл бұрын
@@ShakaCthulu Too bad you don't how to spell the band's name, lol.
@ShakaCthulu
@ShakaCthulu Жыл бұрын
@@TTM9691 too lazy to spell it out. :)
@TTM9691
@TTM9691 Жыл бұрын
@@ShakaCthulu I misunderstood your original comment! I didn't check to see what post or video you were responding to, I thought you were talking about "The Shaggs"!!! So sorry!!! My bad! That will teach me a lesson! :D "The Shangs" is a GREAT way of referring to The Shangri Las, sorry about that, Shaka! Viva The Shangs! :D
@ShakaCthulu
@ShakaCthulu Жыл бұрын
@@TTM9691 No worries. There’s also a Shangri-Las cover band called The Shangs. Not half bad.
@latice
@latice 16 жыл бұрын
It's an outrageous situation, but I have to admit I enjoy watching Margie Ganser's fury--it makes it obvious their tough-girls image wasn't just an image!
@joejones9520
@joejones9520 Жыл бұрын
yes, if not for this sleazy guy doing this to them we'd not have this little bit of footage of them, he actually in the bigger pic, did the SLa's fans a favor!
@angelicaquirarte
@angelicaquirarte Жыл бұрын
Very grumpy lady
@jennifursun3303
@jennifursun3303 7 жыл бұрын
sadly this happend a lot. the same thing happened to the Chiffons and others. in fact The Drifters never had their name, and producers used others to go on the road and sing thier songs. The Dixie Cups never got royalities for their song, neither did the Drifters.the lead singer of the Coasters also took people to court to get the name back it happened all the time.
@araymond1able
@araymond1able 5 жыл бұрын
Along with thousands of others and even companies like Apple getting sued for stealing tech and things. It's The Money Game.
@kb6kgx
@kb6kgx 2 жыл бұрын
There never WAS an official "Drifters". The members, including the lead singers, came and went over the years.
@ViperJon
@ViperJon 6 жыл бұрын
Betty was the most attractive of all the members...by far.
@bernie6485
@bernie6485 3 жыл бұрын
The epitome of record executives
@petie71
@petie71 16 жыл бұрын
I totally remember this segment when it was first aired. The brunette in red is Betty Wiese, the one who sang on 'Leader of the Pack'; it wasn't Mary who did. Betty often didn't appear live with the girls (her choice), although she performed on all the tracks - sometimes as the lead voice. I can't believe they were only teenagers. Good on them! x
@richieluckenbill1590
@richieluckenbill1590 2 жыл бұрын
Actually you are incorrect. It was indeed Mary who sang on the hit version! There is an alternate take of Betty singing lead but at some point, they realized that Mary was a better fit for the lead vocal. But, they kept the intro dialog the same where the narrator (Mary) is called by Betty.
@davidchavers5881
@davidchavers5881 2 жыл бұрын
Mary Weiss, the blonde sister, sang lead on Leader of the Pack and their other hits.
@joejones9520
@joejones9520 Жыл бұрын
goddam i get so tired of people like you confidently spreading lies. Please delete your comment, history is sacred and getting it right is everything.
@porridgeeveryday
@porridgeeveryday 14 жыл бұрын
i'm going to call myself the beatles.
@interstategar
@interstategar 2 жыл бұрын
This same situation arose with Fleetwood Mac,. The band members had to settle with their manager and he got royalties for certain songs, because when the band was started they signed contracts giving up their publishing. The settlement also officially gave the name and rights of Fleetwood Mac to Mick Fleetwood, and John McVie.
@KingOFuh
@KingOFuh 9 ай бұрын
And as everyone knows, Fleetwood Mac brought legal action against a fake group touring with their name in the 70's, just before Buckingham-Nicks joined.
@NathanThePrezPretlow
@NathanThePrezPretlow 9 жыл бұрын
That's why I don't go to oldies show with young performer claiming they are the real thing. I rather play the original music from the the original singers.on my Mp3 player.
@Tr0nzoid
@Tr0nzoid 9 жыл бұрын
Nathan Pretlow Even worse is that people attending a lot of those shows, particularly at small city music festivals, don't even know the differences.
@gortbot7748
@gortbot7748 Жыл бұрын
"Nobody owned the name". That guy is dripping slime.
@marleneriegel5181
@marleneriegel5181 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up listening to the “REAL” Shangri-Las and those imposters just kill the true sound of Orginal Shangri-Las, then to ha e the nerve of passing themselves as their original hits! Go get them and save your name, you worked for it👍
@gsnfan
@gsnfan 9 ай бұрын
RIP Mary and Margie
@KingOFuh
@KingOFuh 9 ай бұрын
And Mary Ann Ganser
@laminage
@laminage 11 жыл бұрын
Sadly enough a lot of Girl Groups of that time didn't "Own" The Rights to their names. When Florence Ballard of The Supremes left Motown in 1967 after getting Fired she signed a Contract that said that if she went solo she could never say she was a Member of The Supremes or affiliated with Motown. Also Phil Spector was notorious for owning the Rights to The Girl Groups he worked with back in the day.
@Fireglo
@Fireglo 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think such a contract would be legal as it goes against free speech besides it'd be impossible to implement as the media would always bring up her past and they would have no legal power to stop the media from saying it.
@kb6kgx
@kb6kgx 2 жыл бұрын
That's how it was done back in the day. The record companies had better lawyers than the artists had, if the artists had any at all.
@zagozago9893
@zagozago9893 3 жыл бұрын
This happened to The Sugababes too. Women are still treated this way in music.
@tomjones7089
@tomjones7089 4 жыл бұрын
They were great, punk before punk existed. Ramones loved them!
@emerybayblues
@emerybayblues Жыл бұрын
Back when ET actually did entertainment reporting.
@laminage
@laminage 6 жыл бұрын
In the 1987 Bestseller Rock Star by Jackie Collins (RIP) there was a Girl Group called Nellie & the Knockers loosely based on The Shangri-Las who were together for Three Years. The Group Broke Up, and Nellie became a Nun. The Same thing happened with The Temptations. There was The Group that Otis Williams the only "Original" Member leads, then Three Former Temptations Eddie Kendricks, David Ruffin (RIP) and Dennis Edwards who is retired performed also as The Temptations and Paul Williams Jr., is in a Tribute Group. They talked about the same thing on 20/20 as well as Jackie Wilson's downfall.
@rocksolid71
@rocksolid71 17 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for copyright law. I can't believe this dude went on tape trying to make this argument. The old Shangs must have cleaned house with this lawsuit.
@Nonduality
@Nonduality 4 жыл бұрын
Call yourself a Shangri-Las tribute group, sing their songs, and pay proper respect to them, and you can book some gigs if you're good.
@timbaone
@timbaone 16 жыл бұрын
yeah, what a joke! mary s got one of the most distinctive voices ever, and her new record rocks! cant wait to see her its so cool that she s playing shows and singing the clasics!!!
@englishsinger
@englishsinger 18 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this clip. Those fakes are just a joke and it's a disgrace that they can live of the reputation of the brilliant orginals.
@oldermusiclover
@oldermusiclover 5 жыл бұрын
sadly this happens a lot. there are a lot of groups who had to sue in order to keep the groups name and be able to use it on stage
@StephenDBurge-in5qi
@StephenDBurge-in5qi 3 жыл бұрын
No one beats the original 💓. Sucker punch em grls 🏴‍☠️
@Behdoc1
@Behdoc1 12 жыл бұрын
Few groups were registering their names in the late 50s/early 60s. It wasn't common business practice then.
@robertpolhemus6584
@robertpolhemus6584 6 жыл бұрын
I met one of the Copy Girls posing as Mary or Betty performing at Venues in Atlantic City. She was a friend but it really upset me because my band THE TEEMATES backed up the original Shangri Las a number of times at Venue we were the headline Band. As the headline Band we were the Act that also backed up musically the Stars who appeared at these Venues....
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. What was the name of your band? What instrument did you play? Do you recall how many times you backed the Shangri-Las? Do you remember seeing Betty sing lead vocals on any of the songs.
@TungstenKid
@TungstenKid 12 жыл бұрын
Dick Fox didn't break any legal laws by picking up the name, but he did break the unwritten laws of honour and decency..
@araymond1able
@araymond1able 5 жыл бұрын
Since when did humans care about honor, decency or what is fair. Fair to them is making money anyway possible, legal or otherwise.
@TZKeyz
@TZKeyz 14 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see Richard Nader in this clip, may he rest in peace. His wife carries on the booking business.
@jonathancaldwell6342
@jonathancaldwell6342 Жыл бұрын
RIP, Marge😢
@missdee4927
@missdee4927 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to that producer totally bullshitting. "I made them young so people wouldn't confuse them." They were up onstage playing like it was their music. Sad how the music industry did its artists.
@Corporations8MyBaby
@Corporations8MyBaby Жыл бұрын
OMFG ... Betty (Liz)'s bangs, vibe and face at 2:03. She's such a rockstar. Amazing 20th century singer-performer.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
She sang lead vocals on about 11 songs and was fantastic.
@KingOFuh
@KingOFuh 9 ай бұрын
No hits, though. She got preggers and dropped out of the band in 1964. She returned for a few gigs in the next couple of years. @@davidjackson7281
@andersport
@andersport 3 жыл бұрын
No phony baloneys!! Just the real ones.
@rolandoalcorta5711
@rolandoalcorta5711 9 ай бұрын
cant beat the real thing😮
@jesseowensrobinsonjr.2460
@jesseowensrobinsonjr.2460 10 ай бұрын
This is how this world is. It take from you and lie right to your face. That name belongs to the first group back in the 60s. That’s like the singers in Los Vegas acting like they are Elvis every one on this god green Earth knows better. Even the kids who are being born today knows it only one Jesus and only one true king of rock and roll. Elvis Presley
@ifeelallright
@ifeelallright 16 жыл бұрын
Fran and Joe Canfield probably were interviewed for at least a 1/2 an hour, and all that was used was Joe saying "shocked" lol
@McCannon21
@McCannon21 3 жыл бұрын
The Gasser twin looks really pissed-off about this issue.
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
What is really sad is that she, Margie, died in 1996 only seven years after this incident and her Mary Ann had died in 1970 at only age 22.
@R_Jackson
@R_Jackson Жыл бұрын
He wouldn't have tried this with an all-male 60s band. He, like many men in the music industry, sees girls as interchangeable.
@TheMauvetys
@TheMauvetys 11 жыл бұрын
well, who does remember the fake "Shangri-Las" of the 80s? now?
@alfonsoadalberto8472
@alfonsoadalberto8472 8 ай бұрын
If I had been born 50 years later, Tiktok would have done them ju$$$$$$$$$$$$tice hahaha
@Mustangladyme
@Mustangladyme 13 жыл бұрын
I love watching this guy squirm . I have seem a lot of these fakes. I don't care whether he can buy the name or not. It's deceiving .
@georgerussell9525
@georgerussell9525 10 ай бұрын
Today the new group would be a tribute act, called something like The Walkers in the Sand.
@Dramawitsvu17
@Dramawitsvu17 4 жыл бұрын
They need to make a movie....I know the perfect person to play Mary!
@davidjackson7281
@davidjackson7281 Жыл бұрын
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