The Shining (1980) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!!

The Shining (1980)
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[@TBRSchmitt]

We loved this movie! And we absolutely talked ourselves into circles after the ending with the old photo of the hotel lol! So much to enjoy and so much to be terrified by! Thank you all for the support!

[@williamsmith5340]

One of my favorite movies

[@doolittlegeorge]

"redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum redrum..

[@jessecaldwell4195]

As far as I know.. it's the only horror movie that has esp as it's main subject..kind of like "Carrie" being the only one about telekinesis.

[@dnazen]

Hey guys loved the reaction, Stephen King was very unhappy with Kubrick's adaptation and many years later he wrote another book that was a sequel to The Shining, called Doctor Sleep. In 2019 filmmaker Mike Flanagan made a movie of Doctor Sleep that tried to do a little more justice to King's work while still being a sequel to the movie of The Shining. It's actually quite good and would probably answer some of your questions as well as being enjoyable in itself. The main character is an adult Danny who is played by Ewan McGregor.

[@samoracien1269]

I wish TBR Schmitt world put Dr. Sleep In the poll after he just watched the shining it's a great sequel to Danny Torance store and how he dealt with his father going crazy.

[@robincraft4682]

I never understood the criticism Shelly Duvall received after this movie was released. I thought she did an outstanding job as Wendy.

[@loudoesreviews]

It's not her ability, it's how Kubrick changed the character of Wendy to a total dishrag that is the issue.

[@iliketostayhome]

Thought she was perfect. That look of terror and uncertainty backing up the stairs. I love her in this.

[@SolProxy]

Critics said her acting wasn't believable, even though she's actually in fear for her life XD

[@TheJuRK]

At the time, women in horror films were young and hot. The sluttiest girls died first. The sweet virginal one survived. Wendy in The Shining was probably too close to reality for audiences to feel comfortable watching. Over the years, people have come to appreciate Shelley's performance. The film is obviously a classic and still watched to this day.

[@noctambule5726]

Kubrick broke her down completely

[@jandelano]

Over 40 years later, people are still talking about this movie. Questions, hidden secrets, and the consequences. A true Classic.

[@Theomite]

Even more hilarious is that it's all based on the dozens of mistakes that likely occur when you shoot a single scene over 3 weeks and hundreds of takes.

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

@@Theomite I know. People get in a tizzy over a chair disappearing behind Jack Nicholson in one shot and claim it can't be a mistake, when mistakes like that occur in many if not most films, including other Kubrick films.

[@serpentsepia6638]

The typewriter is different at the beginning to when Jack starts going crazy. One theory is, at that point onward the movie turns into Jack's story. Or it could just be that they switched one typewriter out for another.

[@Lethgar_Smith]

There's a video where a guy analyses how the interior of the Overlook hotel is deliberately designed to disorient the viewer. This is why the director spends time following the actors around inside the hotel. The floor plan doesnt make any sense and is intentionally confusing.

[@basecode8]

@@Lethgar_Smith Doors that physically shouldn’t exist… people walking from alcoves that have no logical exit… f’n amazing

[@dlweiss]

My interpretation of that final photo isn't that Jack was somehow reincarnated, but rather that his soul has now been absorbed into the communal "old soul" of the Overlook Hotel - just like what happened to the previous Caretaker Grady. After all, Grady was a recent caretaker (1970), not a 1920s man, yet when we see him he seems to look and speak like he belongs in that old-timey 1920s-style world. So I think that same thing has now happened to Jack himself.

[@Dylan_Platt]

Yep, this is how I always take it too. If you allow the Overlook in, like Jack did, it kind of absorbs you and you become a part of it, just like Grady and the twins, the partygoers, the woman in 237, and many others. At that point, you're part of the hotel, and "you've always been" there.

[@zedwpd]

@@Dylan_Platt kids are 8 and 10, not twins

[@Dylan_Platt]

@@zedwpd yo, we already had this exchange a month ago when Auzzie Dillon watched it. I'll just copy paste my reply to you from back then: @Viking6 I mean, they dress the same and talk the same and look the same. Also they're played by a pair of identical twins. Ullman is telling a story of something that happened when his predecessor was in the position, and the quote is actually "...came up here with his wife and two little girls, I think about 8 and 10". Seems like he is slightly misremembering.

[@jadeandjesse5908]

@@Dylan_Platt that, or it could have been that Kubrick found the identical twins actors creepier, but also found it thematically fitting with the visual theme of twos. If the hotel really absorbs people's souls into its shine, creating a communal soul, then the sisters "becoming" twins could support that. Maybe that's why Kubrick chose the visual theme of twos. That could be why he chose to have the hotel built on and themed around the Native American burial ground. Why Jack tries to kill his family the same way Grady did. It's about the recurring and unending cycle of violence and death. What makes the Overlook special is that nothing bad that happens there ever goes away like it does elsewhere. I think that's why Stanley Kubrick was drawn to Kings novel to begin with, he found the setting was just the absolutely perfect setting for a horror film, one that could be truly scary and resonant.

[@Dylan_Platt]

@@jadeandjesse5908 I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, but just because there are artistic/thematic reasons behind the choice doesn't mean that there shouldn't also be an in-plot reason as well.

[@wilhelm-z4t]

RIP Shelley Duvall. 7 Jul 49 - 11 Jul 24. You were incredible in "The Shining."

[@aleistergein114]

"His smile is *not* comforting." C'mon man, it's Jack Nicholson, he's doing his best.

[@steveself4581]

I know!

[@scotthewitt258]

"Wait until they get a load of me."

[@godzillasimpson8357]

Gentlemen, let’s broaden our minds.

[@scottknode898]

@@scotthewitt258 Gotham city always brings a smile to my face.

[@SilhouetteJudas]

He just looks like that.

[@KahnuevsKrake]

Fun Fact: Danny Loyd (Danny) was completely oblivious to the fact he was filming a horror movie. Stanley Kubrick was very protective of the boy, so he cleverly directed him in such a way that he wouldn't be exposed to the potentially traumatising content.

[@LordLOC]

Oh but he sure didn't mind traumatizing Shelley Duval :(

[@dracoargentum9783]

unlike Shelly Duvall...

[@Xehanort10]

@@LordLOC Yeah the way Kubrick treated Shelley Duvall was awful. It resulted in a good performance but it messed her up for life.

[@Bodypit1]

​@@Xehanort10 not trying to belittle what Shelley has gone through, I know she's been very sick and all that but I wouldn't say it was only because of Kubrick or her work on The Shining. Kubrick was known for having a very short temper with his actors and being harsh when he lost time and/or money because they couldn't do their job but when you start researching what different people have actually said about him he doesn't seem to be that cold monster who liked to torture his employees like the media has painted him. What I really think happened between him and Shelley is that they simply couldn't get along and had different viewpoints on the movie and character. That being said I'm sure Kubrick acted like a dick with her in several points during the production, because of that said short temper with actors and being incapable to connect with them when it was about his vision. He always needed to have full control on everything with his films. Also Shelley's time with The Shining could have been, and most probably was, a major catapult to her illness but I'm sure it's not the sole reason for it. Or at least that's my interpretation after doing all the research about them. You could say I'm just biased and protecting my idol since Kubrick is my all time favorite director by far but that's not the case. If I had a chance to meet him I probably wouldn't because I have a feeling he wouldn't had liked me. He didn't like stupid people lol. But he was still very social and cared about people in his life and most people who worked with him speak about him very fondly.

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

@@Bodypit1 I think you must be biased because none of this tracks with what actually happened. It's not a matter of interpretation. You keep mentioning her illness. That is in no way connected to her experience on The Shining. Where did you even get that? All we're talking about is the immediate effects of shooting the film and the insane demand and harsh treatment of Shelley during the shoot. The 127 takes of the baseball bat scene. They went through 60 doors for "Here's Johnny". Kubrick's own daughter says that Kubrick told the crew to ignore her and show no sympathy to make her feel isolated and feed into the performance. Jack Nicholson says that Kubrick became a completely different director when he worked with Duvall. These are facts related by people who were there. Shelley Duvall was so stressed that her hair started falling out and she nearly gave up acting. She did appreciate it was for the film but it was still the most difficult film she's ever had to make.

[@babs3241]

Tony: The movie doesn't even address it, but the book specifies. Tony is an older version of Danny who appears to give Danny flashes of the future and try to keep him safe. (Danny's full name is Daniel Anthony Torrance.)

[@randall-king]

I never heard this before, but it helps a lot and makes so much sense. Thank you!

[@redjakOfficial]

I always saw Tony as an incarnation of his powers.

[@zolibako4816]

The mini-series from the 90's does make that clear

[@Wang_Monkey]

I've really gotta get the book, cheers babs!

[@leovenegas4785]

That's right, Tony is future Danny in like his mid 20's if I'm not wrong. Also, in the book Danny doesn't talk to or as Tony through his index finger like in the movie. It's a bit more complex and abstract than that, and it would have been more difficult to translate to screen. At least back at the time, I guess. I think going with the finger thing was the right call.

[@Malcontent-]

In the book it's made clear that the hotel is drawing power from Danny's shining ability. That's how the hotel is able to manifest things mentally and physically. The longer Danny was there the more powerful the hotel got.

[@billybarnett2846]

Also the person he was talking to was his future self. The tv version had a happier ending for Danny.

[@DANTE83100]

There is an interesting theory. That Jack, abused Danny more than was let on. And through the hotel and Tony, Danny is subconsciously taking revenge on Jack. The visions he's seeing are a manifestation of his rage and revenge, increasing his powers.

[@jadeandjesse5908]

@@DANTE83100 i've never been a fan of that theory because if i am thinking of the right thing, it hinges mostly on the use of Bear imagery throughout the film. The bear man scene would add to this theory but I think he may just be an easter egg of the Rover character from the novel. People always say the book and movie are super different but they really aren't, they just focus on different elements of the story.

[@steveclapper5424]

I loved the book and the movie. I think it's King's greatest work.

[@llywelyngruffydd8474]

None of Kubrick's movies have much to do with the books they're based on.

[@HuntingViolets]

It’s funny how people don’t get the “Here’s Johnny!” reference anymore. This is how Ed McMahon used to introduce Johnny Carson on the Tonight Show.

[@adgato75]

It is also a reference to the fact that Jack's name is actual John.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@adgato75 Yeah, but the "Heeeere's Johnny!" could have been does regardless of his name.

[@darcymoon2109]

I feel like that was 10 years ago.

[@adgato75]

@@HuntingViolets But it isn't. The WAY he said it is because of Carson. The fact that he said it at all is because it is his name.

[@tibb75]

Well, yeah, it'd be like if you made a reference to the Dick Cavett show in the 2000s. It's just not a culturally relevant thing anymore.

[@susanalexander6721]

Side note, I am 61, read The Shining when I was 19. There was nothing like Stephen King before. I was absolutely terrified by a book. Didn't want to be without a light at night, or even sleep alone. Mr. King had done his job!

[@dustandroktwok1447]

The book is terrifying. I read it at 13 before I saw the film at around 17. It’s completely different from the film but great in it’s own way. My favorite chapter is in the boiler room with Jack when he discovers the scrapbook. Which is totally cut out of the film. But when King goes into the backstory of the Overlook it was absolutely mesmerizing.

[@susanalexander6721]

@@dustandroktwok1447 Absolutely. Think I would have enjoyed the film more if I hadn't read the book. The fate of the hotel in the book was much better in my opinion. Nicholson was great of course, but he and Ms. Duvall had 0 chemistry.

[@jeremyalty6693]

I agree. I read all of his old classics when I was a kid, and his books, although Huge, we're always so captivating!

[@mapesdhs597]

Friend of mine long ago told me she'd read one of King's books when she was that age (possibly the same one, can't recall now), she said at one point a particular thing made her freak out so much that she threw the book across the room. :D Then she put the book into her fridge and left it there for some days before continuing. Rob Ager's "Collative Learning" channel has some good videos about this movie.

[@crazypuppies3650]

@Dustan Droktwok I personally liked the part where jack got sane again, and then the ghosts made him hit himself in the face with his Roque mallet

[@wampa25]

The ending is definitely open to interpretation. I think the hotel takes the souls of its victims and sticks them in this continuous loop back in 1921. I'm not sure if you see that photo in any other shot, but I bet if you do, Jack's not in it. I think at the end, the hotel collected him.

[@davidr1050]

Gotta catch em all !

[@JustAPakistaniGamer]

read the book..... it's the hotel.... it absorbs souls.... it makes people evil... the reason this doesn't get across is because kubric and stephen king essentially disagreed on the concept... Stephen king to this day hates the direction the shining took.... Jack Torrance is a victim of the hotel not the villain of the story... and there's so much more meat on the book that's skinned and mutilated in the movie, but the concept itself was so strong most of the concept still goes along..

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

Corpse Party vibes

[@cococherrymango1225]

@callmecatalyst this is English paper worthy- overall good read 📚 👌 Happy Holidays mate 💋

[@davidw.2791]

It’s like the “Evul Redheads and their freckles” thing.

[@nealnoir]

*long pause* “What the hell was all that?!” Thats the best reaction to that I’ve seen. 😂

[@russellh.3150]

28:49 One of the best was the "What the fu.....?" *long pause* "What the hell is this?" Hilarious! Confusion abounds.

[@chrisleebowers]

The twin girls, the hall flooding with blood, "Redrum" and "Here's Johnny" are referenced a lot, but the biggest thing from this movie you will see again and again and again in pop culture is the carpet pattern

[@IR4TE]

Even fucking Toy Story has that carpet pattern. :D

[@conureron3792]

For another movie that had a RUG play a central theme: The Big Lebowski! :-)

[@Tero92]

@@3sappington ah yes The Hollywood pedo thing, all of them are pedos! U seen it on KZbin bruh! Must be true yeashh!!

[@nettieforce1]

Twin Peaks?

[@ChucksCherubs3]

I have the feeling these people have seen this movie before.

[@smootsprint4722]

The camerawork of following the axe from left to right as it follows his swing busting the door open was such a simple but effective way to enhance the rage-filled insanity of that scene

[@mapesdhs597]

It's a simple thing rarely mentioned, but yes indeed.

[@michaelinlofi]

What really sells it is that it's not a handheld shot. It's clearly being swivelled on a tripod. So it looks precise but angry all at the same time. It looks weird and off-putting, and therefore all the more scary

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

"I'm curious what he's writing about." **giggles**

[@karlmoles6530]

*TBR* "I just don't want anything to happen to the cook." *Jack Torrance's Axe* "HOLD MY BEER!"

[@anamorphic74]

Before I even start the movie- the “Here’s Johnny” was Johnny Carson’s lead-in on the Tonight Show. Very popular exclamation for 30yrs

[@SueSnellLives]

Exactly. And any show that parodies Jack Nicholson doing it in this movie is actually parodying a parody 😆

[@flibber123]

"Here's Johnny" was basically a meme before anyone knew what memes were. It's kind of funny how people today recognize "Here's Johnny" as being from this movie when this movie used it because people knew it from the Tonight Show.

[@anamorphic74]

AKA f**k, I’m old

[@christopheryochum3602]

@@anamorphic74 You're not old; you're vintage, classic, like fine wine! By the way, I was going to mention the "Here's Johnny" because TBR didn't seem to react, just thinking it was a salutation from a now-mad person. I don't think he's old enough to have recognized it as from Carson. :)

[@Lethgar_Smith]

and for those who dont know what were talking about, here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYuunqZ3bcetl9E

[@brandonhendrix7223]

If I remember right it is insinuated in the book that Jack has a little bit of the Shining, but not nearly as powerful as Danny. Which is why Jack is able to have visions too but Wendy (who doesn't have it) doesn't have any until near the end because by then the hotel is so strong it's able to manifest itself physically.

[@leovenegas4785]

Not only that. In the book is implied that the world is actually full with people that 'shine' to some degree. This would later on be confirmed in Doctor Sleep (at least in the movie, I have not read that book yet), where there's creatures that hunt and literally fed on those who have this power.

[@brandonhendrix7223]

@@leovenegas4785 I have read Doctor Sleep. The movie is pretty faithful--a few changes here and there (the big one being they removed the fact that Abra is Danny's neice! Which explains why she has such a connection to him.) But the biggest change is the entire ending (which frankly where I think the film falls apart)--which is ironically closer to the original ending to King's Shining while taking place in Kubrick's universe (got that?). In other words, unless you just need to read the original ending the movie of Doctor Sleep gives you the story pretty close to the book.

[@piratetv1]

Jack has the power too. He uses alcohol to quiet the voices. He passed it on to a grand child in another relationship as well

[@dewey70]

I think its implied in the book that if someone with the shine dies in the hotel, the hotel absorbs the shine. Its interesting that the crazy visions Wendy sees don't really start until after Halloran dies.

[@brandonhendrix7223]

@@dewey70 well yeah, that's why the hotel wants Danny so much--to absorb his shining since he's very powerful with it. (Funny enough Kubrick dispensed with this point and in doing so almost makes The Shining secondary to Jack's ordeal. When in King's book that's the reason the hotel is duping Jack into killing him.)

[@KyleMcintoshMAC316]

RIP to Scatman Crothers. Wonderful actor. He was the voice of Jazz in the original G1 Transformers

[@dalehoward3704]

He was great in this film as well! Scatman was in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest with Nicholson as well!

[@chrisb9577]

He was also the voice of Hong Kong Phooey.

[@richardkaltenbach3961]

He Was Also In SILVER STREAK With GENE WILDER AND RICHARD PRYOR!

[@guitarmaniac004]

I think the greatest part of this movie is that it never shows you its full hand. You're constantly left guessing, wondering and letting your mind fill in the blanks. It's one of the greatest movies I've ever watched. I watched this movie for the first time 5 years ago and I'm still wondering what the hell it's all about!

[@danreilly6528]

"Here's Johnny!" was also the intro phrase for Johnny Carson, the iconic late night talk show host on NBC's The Tonight Show. He served as the host for 1962-1992.

[@ejtappan1802]

Not really "also" because the scene in this movie is absolutely a takeoff on Johnny Carson's intro. When this movie came out everyone knew that phrase.

[@randall-king]

@@ejtappan1802 I thought it was funny when she said, “Here’s Jimmy” because, to me, the phrase is so iconic due to Ed McMahon saying it to introduce Carson each night. I was initially thinking, “How could somebody not know that?” But I understand why she wouldn’t. I worked in a grocery store during high school in the early 90s. I remember an older employee mentioning The Eagles and me remarking that I didn’t know who they were. That co-worker couldn’t believe that I didn’t know them. (My younger brother got their greatest hits album years later and I became familiar with their music then.)

[@leovenegas4785]

@@ejtappan1802 Actually, Stanley Kubrick was not familiar with the phrase at all an almost nearly didn't use it.

[@JoeBlow_4]

@@leovenegas4785 One of a handful of people at the time apparently, because Carson was the biggest personality in America. Everyone went to bed watching Carson every day and he was introduced that way every day for decades.

[@lykkeej]

I've read that the line wasn't in the script either, Nicholson just improvised it and they kept that take. ANOTHER interesting thing I read was that they had a fake door for Nicholson to axe through - but he used to be a volunteer firefighter and kept destroying the prop door in one swing, so they had to do it with a real one. Unfortunately I can't cite my sources, I just remember those two little tidbits from a ways back.

[@flibber123]

Here's what I think, just based on this movie: We know Grady was the caretaker, he admits to having the wife and two daughters that we know Grady had and killed. Therefore when he tells Jack that Jack has always been the caretaker, he's talking metaphorically and not literally. Jack is in the picture at the end because since he died there he is always going to be part of the ghost lineup at the hotel. Hallorann tells Danny the basic setup. Things that happen at the hotel leave traces behind(aka ghosts). People with the shining power can see these ghosts. Danny has a particularly strong shining power, we know this because he's able to use it to summon Hallorann from across the country. The hotel wants Danny's power because then the supernatural aspects of the hotel will be active all the time. This is why the hotel wants Jack to kill Danny. By the end the hotel is feeding off Danny's power enough so that Jack and Wendy both can see the ghosts. Tony is just a part of Danny, he's not an outside force. Danny is too young to figure out what's going on but Tony is the part of his mind that sort of senses what's safe and what's not.

[@flibber123]

@Meanie Panini The reason I don't think Jack had any shining power is that he didn't see or experience anything in the hotel until after Danny got there and they had been there awhile. Danny's power is what allows the hotel to manifest its ghosts. I think the hotel chose Jack because he's a substance abuser who has recently gotten sober, so therefore he's more vulnerable to manipulation. He was mentally on shaky ground before the movie starts. I agree Wendy has issues too. The way she brushes off Jack's abuse of Danny is a clear sign of that.

[@chart6454]

@@flibber123 I believe that Danny states his father had a weak shine to him in the sequel, “Dr. Sleep”.

[@88wildcat]

One thing that never gets explained, the guy that spills the drinks on Jack says his name is Delbert Grady yet when Ullman first tells the story to Jack during the interview he says his name was Charles Grady. Are they the same person or two different people? Was there more than one occasion of someone's family getting chopped up with axes? Is he going by his middle name or is this just one of those things Kubrick does to fuzz up the movie?

[@flibber123]

​@@88wildcat My opinion on that rests on the fact that Ullman tells Jack that the Grady situation happened when Ullman's predecessor was running the hotel. Ullman has no personal knowledge of it, he's passing on second hand information. So it might not all be correct. This is supported by Jack later telling Grady he saw him in the newspaper. Jack didn't say "Your real name is Charles". He accepted him as Delbert Grady. This to me implies that even the newspaper called him Delbert.

[@theonewhoistornapart2506]

@@88wildcat The guy who surprises Wendy later with the big scar down the middle of his face may have been the actual Charles Grady. The scar may have been from having been shot from the shotgun he killed himself with.

[@Notepad37]

"I just don't want anything to happen to the cook" Oh you poor sweet, summer child

[@stephen-truthseeker]

The cook was a very nice man.

[@TerryNationB7]

If only he'd brought along his trusty 'The Hong Kong Book Of Kung Fu' or better yet, Spot the cat.

[@Tero92]

Cringe so fkn cringe these summer child comments, come wit sum new

[@Notepad37]

@@Tero92 better than people cringing at your face every time they see it, children running in terror, like the way you live

[@Notepad37]

@@Tero92 come with an IQ over 70

[@johnw8578]

The hotel was really waking up when Wendy saw the ghosts. Also, the blood elevator was the trailer that was shown at theaters. When I was a kid, the trailer scared the heck out of me at theaters.

[@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime]

Me too. That trailer scared the crap outta me.

[@patriciaalvareztostado8170]

I saw three scene by mistake when I was a kid, the blood on the corridor, the woman in the bathroom. I was 10 I think I dream with it, nightmatter, I generally dont remember my dreams but this nightmares I remember

[@misterkite]

Back in the late 90s I and a bunch of college friends did a road trip to Denver. Along the way we stopped at the Stanley Hotel, which is where this is filmed. They had renumbered all the rooms to discourage film fans, but you could still see the faded outline of the old 237 numerals on the door.

[@stevetheduck1425]

The hotel used in the film (mostly only seen in the opening shot of the hotel and mountain (no maze visible), and re-created as a set for the film) was the Timberline Lodge, but the hotel King stayed at and inspired the book was another.

[@misterkite]

@@stevetheduck1425 You're right, and I misremembered the room number too.. It's room 217 that is the infamous room (King changed it to 237 for the book)

[@streakermaximus]

Fun fact: Jack Nicholson was a volunteer fireman. When he had to smash through the door, he was to effective. Props department had to build a sturdier door.

[@superstraightandproud9087]

This movie isn't scary it's more the feeling of constant dread which drains you and stresses you making you relate to the emotional state that Wendy is going through

[@krwawyrzeznik]

And that's what makes it scary

[@leemcqueen500]

I disagree it’s very scary.

[@johnkennethwiseman682]

you are right because there are no real jump scares

[@shrøømpizza-u1t]

@@johnkennethwiseman682 There's one, i remember showing this movie to my friend and he actually jumped a little when jack kills Mr hallorann lol

[@stepbystep48]

No it isnt acary its scary ass fuck

[@davidahmed7792]

What always struck me about Jack and Wendy, is that because he's so lazy and self indulgent at the hotel - Wendy ends up doing his job for him. Jack inadvertantly gave Wendy all the tools she needed to survive him, by learning the layout of the hotel, the grounds and how things work. Tony is Danny's shine, he just gives it a name to deal with it as a child would. Great reaction again. You're one of my favourite channels! I understand your reaction choices are film recommendations via Patreon, but if you ever get the chance I think you'd really find "Los Ojos De Julia" (2010) really interesting and terrifying.

[@dreiserrules9414]

Excellent observation.

[@babadook4404]

Duvall doesn't get enough credit! Literally one of the greatest performances in a horror film.

[@waynesimpson4081]

I think appreciation of Duvall's performance has grown greatly in the intervening years. She's an unconventional actress in looks, accent and style. Robert Altman knew how to cast her, but Hollywood in general didn't know how to use her talent.

[@gwesleycrow]

The Shining is one of the most ingenious and brilliant films that Stanley Kubrick ever made. It is so multi-layered and complex that he is almost daring you to try and figure it out. Are the ghosts real? Is everything simply in Jack's head? There are no easy answers. I also love the fact that there is a running commentary on and critique of American society and culture, with the references to the atrocities committed against the Indians, as well as the references to the Watergate scandal, which is, unfortunately, very relevant now. I especially love the line of dialogue spoken by Wendy, as she and Danny are racing each other into the hedge maze: "The loser has to keep America clean."

[@robcop993]

When your wife exclaimed "Here's Jimmy!" I suddenly felt very old.

[@abuanderson7878]

You and me both

[@shainewhite2781]

21:36, it's the Hotel! Whenever someone has died in the hotel, their soul is trapped for all eternity with no way out.

[@MikeB12800]

I havn’t read the books, but I thought in Dr. Sleep (movie), they say the hotel isn’t haunted, the hotel itself is evil.

[@charlese2714]

The souls are indeed trapped. Except for when the hotel is destroyed by the most incredibly obvious foreshadowing this side of sanity. That situation would never happen. The government wouldn't allow it, insurance wouldn't allow it, the hotel itself wouldn't allow it, guests wouldn't stand for it.

[@charlese2714]

@@MikeB12800 That explanation in the movie really kind of misrepresents what's going on. The Hotel is both evil and haunted. The Hotel itself is trying enhance its own strengths by causing tragic and psychotic situations where it can trap their souls. This is especially true when someone who has the ability to Shine arrives. Then comes one of the most important differences between the Shining book and movie. The ghosts or illusions or beings that Jack interacts with is far beyond anything shown in the book. Those beings are the primary driver of Jack's decisions from then on. So the truth is the house is both evil and is haunted by ghosts. Evil in the fact that it was once just a building that was designed and built. Once it discovered it could become stronger as well as increase the range of abilities at it,s disposal. From then on it worked towards having the people there murdered in gruesome fashion to collect their souls. This is also why it's fair to say the house is haunted. The hotel can be thought of as its own entity that no one in the movie interacts with directly. Instead h Jack converses with several ghosts who provide inside information as well as convince him to murder his family. These ghosts are bound to hotel no question but they are also actively aiding the hotel. They are quite content to condemn other people by forcing their fate upon them in order to increase the amount of exposure and influence they have on the living world. So the hotel is definitely evil and is also haunted by its victims.

[@MikeB12800]

@@charlese2714 Thanks. That makes sense.

[@dracoargentum9783]

you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave...

[@rrmenton8016]

"Heeeeere's Johnny!" Was the iconic intro to every broadcast of the tonight show when johnny carson hosted for like 20 years.

[@onejester]

When the Twins showed up and there was just a big "Nope" behind the two of you and TBR is shaking his head, I about spewed my drink.

[@TriScorp]

This was one of the first uses of a steady-cam operated by the dude that invented it

[@marcusosuna687]

Didn't they call it PANAGLIDE or something like that? I remember seeing it in John Carpenter's Halloween and Escape from New York, I think.

[@BangTanPrettiNikki]

The steady cam in this film is one of my favorite parts of this it. It’s makes me so uneasy I love it.

[@ThatBlakeCampbell]

Rocky was the first big movie to use it, but I think it had been used two or three times before.

[@Bhint320610]

The “NOPE” and the “NAH” big text had me 😂

[@johnmorris8444]

The sort of sequel to this is worth the watch. It’s called “Dr. Sleep”. It goes into more of what the “shine” is. It was made very recently but it’s very enjoyable.

[@clayjohanson]

"Doctor Sleep" is one of the best horror movies to come out in a long time and is a worthy follow-up to "The Shining".

[@rafaelamaral506]

Yes, I love watching both movies back-to-back

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

@@rafaelamaral506 Me and my wife recently watched the two of them in a row. I was really pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Doctor Sleep; it's a sequel that totally deserves to exist.

[@matias5817]

@@clayjohanson Dr. Sleep is a decent sequel and a good movie but it isn't a horror movie, not even a little

[@jima6545]

The book was decent

[@moonsugar1]

20:08 The woman that walks past the waiter has a bloody handprint on the back of her dress. One of the hundreds of hidden messages in one of the greatest films ever shot.

[@dreiserrules9414]

It took me decades of watching this movie to spot that myself. It's so casual. I remember when I first noticed that handprint on the Blu-Ray version I thought, "Stanley did it again."

[@polypeptide]

Whaaa! Never saw that before!

[@hadassah179]

never noticed that easter egg. what is that supposed to mean though? she doesn't look anything like one of the women right next to Jack in the photo.

[@separator94]

The picture at the end confuses everyone. The book and the film have a lot of differences. In the book it explains that the hotel hosted many Satanic, elite parties where the wealthy and powerful would sacrifice people. It happened many times and now the hotel is extremely cursed. It was never supposed to have anything to do with an Indian burial ground. That part was made up for the movie. Also, those types of parties have been happening all over the world since ancient times. They still take place regularly as well. The director of this movie, Stanley Kubrick, knew a lot about them and even made a film called Eye's Wide Shut that was literally a reenactment of one such party that took place in the Rothchild's mansion in 1972. He knew if he made the movie he would be killed so he waited until he was in his 70's to make it. He died in his sleep 6 days after it was screened. Many people in the know say that he was poisoned.

[@gabe6550]

Please stop this conspiracy-theory-bullshit!

[@separator94]

@@gabe6550 Keep swallowing all the Marxism you're fed, hook line and sinker.

[@bill8856]

@@gabe6550 Willfully ignorant people, like yourself, is why global society is failing. Stop flaunting your ignorance, and stupidity. It disgusts all of us knowledgeable adults.

[@waltrohrbach2459]

interesting, that the original book makes references to elite satanic parties. Hence the baphomet "As above, so below" hand gesture the "caretaker" makes in the final 1921 photo of the gold room. (just pause right there to see it.)

[@separator94]

@@waltrohrbach2459 Very interesting. I'll check it out.

[@meowenstein]

"I'm sorry to differ with you, sir... but YOU are the caretaker. You've ALWAYS been the caretaker..."

[@ThePoorBoy]

"Will the white man ever change his ways?" I often believe that this was Kubrick's hidden question in his adaptation of King's novel.

[@systerkeno]

@@ThePoorBoy So you believe it's racist motives for doing this movie. It's absolutely not about race, at all.

[@ThePoorBoy]

​@@systerkeno I don't believe that Kubrick was a racist, nor do I believe that he had racist motives in making it. But the theme of racism is part of the subtext of the film, and I'm far from the only person to hold that opinion.

[@crappiefisher1331]

@@ThePoorBoy lol, i guess people see what they wanna see.. nowadays sometimes it even does not matter how hard you have to try or stretch things to see what you wanna see... there is always a way

[@chart6454]

@@ThePoorBoy yeah I don’t see that at all.

[@rojopo1971]

Danny is very powerful, the hotel becomes stronger cuz he's there, the ghosts want him as a permanent guest

[@goochdawg]

Same as in doctor sleep when danny returns the chandelier lights up its like saying welcome home danny....

[@susanalexander6721]

Absolutely. It didn't want Jack. It wanted Danny.

[@goochdawg]

@@susanalexander6721 Also in doctor sleep you noticed rose the hat loved the overlook hotel but the overlook hotel did not like her.

[@raviodelorule]

@@susanalexander6721 the hotel feeds in the tragedy and despair, but danny having a Shining flashlight is just the perfect meal to keep it full power

[@morganyakkofan9052]

Sounds like “Poltergeist”, where the Poltergeist’s abducted Carol Anne. Sorry if I spoiled the movie for you.

[@stiofanmac3376]

the line from the butler dude ''i corrected them'' is pure chills talking about his wife and kids.shelly duval never once broke charecter once ...jack did a couple times.

[@kristopherwood7521]

In the book there's a lot more at first about Jack's determination to not drink after a near miss driving accident. Jack grabbed Danny's arm and twirled him around, breaking his arm.

[@cardaderdention]

The ending has been speculated for years there has never been a definitive explanation and probably never will be. My thought is that once Jack died he was absorbed into the hotel. Basically another victim of the Overlook hotel, and just like the Grady and the countless others that the hotel has claimed, his spirit will "shine" in the hallways of the Overlook.

[@guysebastian9072]

This movie wasn't scary but creepy all the way through with mystery, Jack was sexy and scary at the same time lol

[@screviews]

Great reaction. Yeah it's definitely a mind-fuck but that's part of what makes it so good. Kubrick is operating on another level lol. Go check out the making of documentary it's on KZbin.

[@markstoudenmire4935]

Yeah, to say he was operating on a different level is certainly an understatement!

[@omnipop4936]

Yeah, the "making of" documentary (filmed by Vivian Kubrick, Stanley's daughter, when she was just 17) is great! She also did an audio commentary track for it, 23 years later. It's on KZbin too.

[@superstraightandproud9087]

I'm strugglin eeeeeere!!!

[@JustAPakistaniGamer]

kubrick deserves credit fo sho... but KING is the man who MADE the story.... and the book is waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy more amazing... fun fact... kubrick and king had a massive disagreement on the direction... even the ethos of the concept itself... so kubrick's vision of the shining is actually an antithesis of what king's concept is.. Kubrick made JACK TORRANCE the central aspect of the story whereas KING"s vision was what if a building itself was evil... and you guys have no idea how evil the overlook itself is.... the real villain is the hotel itself.... !!!!

[@scotthewitt258]

Kubrik definitely had a way with film. So many iconic movies over the years. And such creative ways to make a movie. For instance, in "Barry Linden" he shot a dinner scene lit only by candlelight, using a newly designed and built F0.95 lens.

[@louisenglish8069]

Masterpiece. Young directors take notice of Kubrick's sublety and symmetry. Kubrick was a genius, not recognized during his time, which is often the case...

[@mikemath9508]

I got over my obsession with symmetry in my teen years, its fun, satisfying, but I can't see rigidly sticking to it unless it is thematic

[@LeonWagg]

It's not true at all that he was not recognized during his time. Although many of his movies were controversial and criticized when they first came out, everybody did acknowledge that he was one of the great masters in cinema at the time. The Shining, for example, received bad reviews when it first came out but already in the mid-80s and early 90s, people were already considered it a masterpiece.

[@Theomite]

He was totally recognized during his time, but without the Internet his popularity was divided. The film industry knew his name and his work, but not his face because he allowed so few photos of himself to circulate. The audience knew his films but not his name; everybody saw FULL METAL JACKET and THE SHINING but those same people couldn't tell you who directed them. Kubrick is recognized in a completely different way now than when he was alive because when he died, the Internet was a completely different thing.

[@joeymac3777]

The other thing is....every time you watch it, you pick up on new things. You watch it again and again, but you already know what's coming, so you pay attention to different things and pick up on new things.

[@gulluin2993]

the Hotel draws people in it can manipulate. With Jack, he was already unstable. And to add Danny to the mix would amp the abilities the Hotel already had. It traps the souls in the Hotel, and that is why Jack is in the picture. His soul is added to the Hotel.

[@drlee2]

In terms of Stanley Kubrick, I highly recommend 2001:A Space Odyssey and Paths of Glory. In my opinion, those are his 2 best films. I rate 2001 as the greatest film ever.

[@richardb6260]

Saw 2001:A Space Odyssey when I was 12 in 1968. Saw it thirteen times in the theater before it was released on home video (thanks to near yearly re-releases) The first time I saw it was in 70mm Cinemascope. One of my favorite films of all time.

[@dustandroktwok1447]

13 times is impressive. My own personal record is 4 times for Titanic.

[@richardb6260]

@@dustandroktwok1447 it helped that the theater 2001 played at was at a mall within easy biking distance.

[@billrab1890]

"Here's Johnny" did not originate from this movie. It is how Johnny Carson was introduced every weeknight at 11:30 PM for the 30 plus years that he hosted the 'tonight show' and was commonly known by everyone in the United States who was old enough to see this movie at the time of its release in 1980. I enjoy watching your reactions but I just thought that I would point that out.

[@jkocher6973]

When I see these two youngsters (I use that term with nothing but affection) not getting the reference for 'Here's Johnny!' -- I suddenly feel very old. LOL. Then again, Johnny Carson has been off the air since 1992.

[@DraylianKaiju-zy7nc]

Classic Kubrick!!! As a married couple and if you both haven't seen it you should totally watch "Eyes Wide Shut"....Kubrick's final film.

[@joaosantos5503]

Definitely.

[@PatrickRyan147]

The first minute is the best, imo.. and that's it.. (It's a view of Nicole Kidman from behind, naked basically). The rest of the film, meh!

[@CaesiusX]

While I _really_ like *Eyes Wide Shut,* I don't see how watching *The Shining* would lead someone to recommend it, aside from simply being another *Kubrick* film. It's a completely different animal IMO.

[@nealnoir]

Agreed

[@anamorphic74]

And yet still very much a Stanley Kubrick movie. There was that technical and tonal consistency between each and every one of his films.

[@williamcodywinter]

Stanley Kubrick said, “The ballroom photograph at the very end suggests the reincarnation of Jack.” That means that Jack Torrance is the reincarnation of a guest or someone on staff at the Overlook in 1921. ... Either way, the end result is Jack becoming part of the hotel.

[@1920sBuffaloGuy]

One of the deepest and most layered films ever made. Top 5 film of all-time for me.

[@el34glo59]

Agreed

[@TwilightLink77]

The actor that portray the man who asked if Danny wanted ice cream was the original voice of Hong Kong Phooey.

[@renee7407]

I will now have the Hong Kong Phooey song in my head for the next week 😭

[@leovenegas4785]

He also was the voice of the autobot Jazz in the original Transformers cartoon

[@Steve_Blackwood]

I was beginning to think I was the only one watching these reactions who remembered who Scatman was. 😂

[@renee7407]

@@KabukiKid cruel! lol 😂

[@Ivy94F]

@@renee7407 Haven’t even thought of that song for years and now because of you, I can’t stop hearing it in my head. 😂😂😂

[@ThomasKnip]

This movie just creeps beneath your skin and touches for your mind ... Stanley Kubrick put all he got into his movies and pushed the actors to their limits.

[@superstraightandproud9087]

The impending doom soundtrack never let's up ! No mercy

[@brownstarslots]

"Light of my LIFE" is my absolute favorite line from this movie. Cheers

[@washo2222]

Enjoyed your reaction to this masterpiece of filmmaking. Danny was portrayed by Danny Lloyd. Because Danny Lloyd was so young, and since it was his first acting job, Stanley Kubrick was highly protective of the child. During the shooting of the movie, Lloyd was under the impression that the film he was making was a drama, not a horror movie. In fact, when Wendy carries Danny away while shouting at Jack in the Colorado Lounge, she is actually carrying a life-size dummy, so Lloyd would not have to be in the scene. He only realized the truth several years later, when he was shown a heavily edited version of the film. He did not see the uncut version of the film until he was seventeen, eleven years after he had made it. The idea for Danny Lloyd to move his finger when he was talking as Tony was his own. He did it spontaneously during his very first audition. At last check he is a Professor of biology at a community college in Elizabethtown, Kentucky. Interesting trivia note: Kubrick considered Robert De Niro and Robin Williams for the role of Jack Torrance but decided against them. Kubrick did not think De Niro would suit the role after watching his performance in Taxi Driver (1976), as he deemed De Niro not psychotic enough for the role. He did not think Williams would suit the role after watching his performance on Mork & Mindy (1978), as he deemed him too psychotic for the role. According to Stephen King, Kubrick also briefly considered Harrison Ford. Kubrick also decided that having the hedge animals come alive (as they do in the book) was unworkable, due to restrictions in special effects, so he opted for a hedge maze instead.

[@terrycharnley]

The music for this movie is amazing. It's like a non-stop creepy soundscape and gives it even more of an epic feel. It feels epic anyway, and not just because it's long. It's a supernatural masterpiece, plain and simple. Still has shock value and keeps people talking about it and analysing it after more than forty years. The ending is also brilliant and maybe up to individual interpretation. I think what it's saying is that the hotel has claimed Jack's soul and is locked in its own evil time zone. But the boy, Danny Lloyd, what a performance. The only film he ever did.

[@tallykev6608]

The movie was based on a novel by Stephen King, so a lot of the details are in book. Kubrick made a movie (that King hated btw) that didn't explain everything and left some things open to interpretation. But the movie in and of itself is fantastic and the performances were great. Nicholson's performance in particular was out of this world.

[@Johnny6666]

You two would really benefit from watching the documentary 'The Making of the Shining'. It was shot by Kubrick's daughter Vivian, and has a wealth of behind-the-scenes material that is fascinating to watch (including Shelley Duvall's near breakdown on the set). It's also amazing to see that most everything was shot on sets. The documentary should be available on whatever Blu-Ray release you have of the film (as an extra...)?

[@brigidtheirish]

Unfortunately, the documentary seems to be mostly fiction in regards to how Kubrick treated the cast.

[@iliketostayhome]

Another Kubrick movie :') He never makes the same movie twice. Hope you guys watch more. Edit: "Barry Lyndon" and "2001" are my favorites. Amazing movies. Nothing like them.

[@MrRondonmon]

I think I will give Barry Lyndon a try, it's on HBO MAX right now. I saw Clockwork Orange when I was like 6 (LOL) my mom and dad took my Sisters to the Osmonds Concerts and thus I had to go to the picture show with them, my guess is it probably was a very bad choice for them, seeing as they were born in 26 and 34..

[@iliketostayhome]

@@MrRondonmon Let me know how it goes. When you watch Barry Lyndon, look for scenes that would make great Renaissance paintings. I can't imagine watching a Clockwork Orange at 6 years old. Jesus Christ

[@kalandkarazor-el3088]

Anyone who like Barry Lyndon gets a thumbs up!! Love that movie. It's long, for sure, but the candlelit scenes alone are worth it. So beautiful!!

[@filegrabber1]

@@MrRondonmon Barry Lyndon is incredible, perhaps Kubrick's best. Damn, I can imagine you got traumatized for life, seeing Clockwork Orange on age 6. At least you didn't understand it on that age, so good reason time to actually watch it now, because it's an amazing movie.

[@MrRondonmon]

@@filegrabber1 Wheen they said FART I busted out laughing, and everyone else turned around looking, lol. I think watching the Osmonds would have traumatized me even worse.

[@BloodylocksBathory]

I love that you picked up on that "Kubrick stare". It shows up in almost all of his films, though there's uncertainty to why he used it, maybe even just liked the way it looked.

[@LuckyBastardProd]

That’s the infamous scene where Nicholson was getting pissed off and he said “You know I’m with you all the way here, Stan. However I usually peak around the 50th TAKE!” I think Kubrick was trying to torture him to get a genuine crazed look more than just the typical Nicholson eyebrows and grin and it worked😂

[@BloodylocksBathory]

@@LuckyBastardProd Exactly! It's these experiences from Jack Nicholson and Scatman Crothers which makes me the teensiest bit annoyed when people go at length about the trauma Shelley Duvall experienced. Kubrick made all of the actors (save for Danny Loyd) suffer so that their performances were genuine. Shelley does live with mental illness, but she made peace with The Shining a long time ago. Uh, anyway...

[@lukeharbolt7681]

Alex de large does it too in clockwork orange I believe. And full metal jacket as well as some do it in A.I. which is a Kubrick concept

[@Slankadanka]

R.i.p to Shelly and Scatman. 😇😇 All the performances in this classic are of course super incredible. And usually kid actors in a lot of horror movies are average at best or even a distraction, but this kid was a phenomenal actor here and made the film work perfectly.

[@juancarlos23alva]

Doctor Sleep, it’s the sequel for The Shining. That need a reaction

[@Brian25091]

Nah. Other than that really fucked up scene, that movie doesn't need a reaction. Book was 1000 times better. I'm not trying to be one of those people but reading half the book and then watching the movie, really showed me how bad the movie was. The final third was decent but man did they leave out a TON of information about a lot of things that needed explaining, plus leaving out a huge character.

[@w1975b]

@@Brian25091 what scene do you consider to be really fucked up?

[@Brian25091]

@@w1975b The torture scene of the "baseball boy" as Abra called him i believe. That scene was just as disturbing and fucked up as it was in the book. I was surprised they even put that in there since after reading half the book before watching the movie, they cut out A LOT. Like as to the reason why the little boy and his mother died from Danny's one night stand in the first third of the movie.

[@MrPerthglory]

@@Brian25091 have you watched the directors cut ? Adds 30 mins or so. Much better cut of the film

[@Brian25091]

@@MrPerthglory No I haven't. Is it?. I may have to check it out.

[@Uncle_T]

- It's 237. - Is it? - Yeah. - Oh f*ck! Made me laugh. :)

[@armitagehawkshaw]

Roger Ebert wrote a piece on this movie with a reading suggesting the possibility that Wendy and Danny were never there (at the hotel during the winter) - only Jack was at the hotel, their presence at the hotel were figments of his imagination. It's fascinating.

[@jacoblofthus7908]

I think you two are my favorite movie reactors! You're just so cute and funny together!

[@JohnWick-yu6je]

The Shining is in The Guinness Book Of World Records for most retakes of single scenes. The famous stair scene took 127 shots but the 'shine' scene with Dick Hallorann and Danny Torrance was reshot 148 times!

[@Nick_CF]

"What does that even mean though?" Dude you have no idea the can of worms you are opening with that question lol

[@keavabonner1625]

The shining gift shows up throughout multiple Stephen King novels. You guys should watch some analyzing videos afterwards about this movie. And I would definitely give dr sleep a watch. It's a great follow up to this. That ending with the picture has always baffled people. Also Stephen King hated this depiction of his novel. Oh the hotel design is off as well. The exterior doesn't match the interior layout.

[@MarkJohnson-gk6kc]

I think the clash between the exterior and interior layouts was intentional, just another layer of the uncanny that Kubrick weaves into the film to keep the audience off guard.

[@keavabonner1625]

@@MarkJohnson-gk6kc oh it definitely was intentional

[@raputathebuta]

@@Scary__fun I agree - Jack appears already nuts the first second we see him. I think the miniseries showed Jack's slow descent into madness much better. I had empathy for Steven Weber's Jack. I was rooting for him to overcome The Overlook's control. I mean, I do love Kubrick's movie - for what it is - which is not Stephen King's The Shining. It's still highly entertaining & creepy though.

[@Ivy94F]

@@raputathebuta Me too. I love King’s story more than Kubrick’s plot, but the way it looks is amazing. This cast is fantastic, and the imagery is creepy and gorgeous at the same time. But King’s story made me cry it was so good.

[@1938superman]

42:38 The thing you got right off that I don't know if I've seen anyone get right away before is that the twins were Grady's murdered daughters right at the beginning. Most people are just like, "why are those creepy girls standing there?" They don't usually pick up that they're the daughters until the hallway later.

[@nathanfitzgearl650]

The fact that after 42 years this movie provokes so much discussion and so many emotional reactions - that proves what a cult classic this film is.

[@mattsnyderARTIST]

"Heres Johnny" was the intro to The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson

[@algi1]

I think it's great that while this is a horror movie with ghosts, the big bad is domestic violence. It's so banal, so real, and we can even empathize with what's happening.

[@unclebounce1495]

No it's not. It's ghosts and possession, lol.

[@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340]

@@unclebounce1495 There’s a vary clear theme of domestic abuse incredibly present throughout the film though, they even establish Jack from the vary beginning to be a past abuser and there are plenty of instances of the film of him acting abusively towards Wendy or the implied possibility of him abusing Danny at the hotel. Plus, this is a film where you don’t have to take everything completely literally or just at face value, Kubrick often used visual metaphors in his films to convey more complex ideas or concepts, he also always encouraged people to come up with there own ideas and interpretations of his films based on their own viewings, so both of your interpretations are completely valid.

[@unclebounce1495]

@@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340 Who said he was abusive beforehand? The audience is allowed to draw their own biased conclusions, of course. He injured the child once. Excessive? Yes, and he recognized and corrected himself immediately. Abusers never abuse only once. He had not abused before or after that one incident. You labeled him an abuser because he "injured the child... once." It's called narrative misleading. You're led to think it's a natural/mundane explanation at the start until supernatural explanations are clearly undeniable. The reason he kills has nothing to do with "being an abuser." That's absurd. That's why it's a cycle that happens to anyone who comes to that hotel. It's about a cycle of evil possessions/past lives/spirits haunting and revisiting trauma to any who inhabit the same local. It's a horror story (based on a supernatural phenomenon around that area called the shining). The head of the anti-DV department would have been equally affected if spending the winter there. so, it's about possession. Scream, on the other hand, is most about DV.

[@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340]

@@unclebounce1495 Jack is shown multiple times verbally abusing and gaslighting Shelly. Even when he talks about injuring Danny’s arm, he doesn’t exactly show much remorse or for his actions, even rationalizing it and mocking Wendy for her understandably horrified reaction to it. Also, Wendy definitely exhibits certain traits that are common in many abuse/manipulation victims, with her incredibly timid, insecure demeanor and frequent self doubt, and Jack isn’t exactly shown at any point to be a warm or caring father, even before the hotel could have presumably possessed him, which I don’t think was an accident on Kubrick and Diane Johnson’s part.

[@unclebounce1495]

@@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340 How amazingly gullible you are. Confirmation bias confirmed. Shelly "exhibits" what you want her to exhibit. She could be a terribly abused victim cowering in fear (no reason to think that unless you want to; she could just be a meek person who, as the movie demonstrates, is meek and gentle when interacting with her own son or with Jack or with strangers (but invent whatever damsel in distress syndrome you like imagining). Again, movie gave no reason to suspect he's a real abuser - meaning prolonged harassment/torment over time). The Johnny Depp "casual cowering" behavior of abuse victims takes time to develop, not a single incident. And Jack did not speak "abusively" to them until he had reached the hotel, where his disposition clearly changed to much more nasty, aggressive, and vindictive. You're welcome to see what you want to see. The author created the misleading hint or two at the beginning so you would ASSume a stereotypical trope about the "mean man" of the family, when in reality he's simply a burn out ambitious business man who admittedly (by the character and the narrator) committed only one act of harm against any of his family members ever. I think it greatly exposes the bigots who like to think themselves perfect and quickly label people when they admit they made one single mistake in their past. The labelers and their label-makers are more zealous than any cult fanatic, that's for sure. In the end, it's your imagination; exercise it how you will. If you enjoy imagining a woman being abused, go ahead. But to say the movie is "about DV" when hundreds of evil demon-like spirits are possessing and slaughtering hundreds of victims over the span of a hundred years (INCLUDING the men, btw. They're murdered too by the spirits, in case your bias forgets to count them as victims and not perpetrators)... ya, I think it's "about" something a little more.

[@toecutterjenkins]

This movie is visual poetry, it can be interpreted different ways. The book 100 percent evil hotel possessed a loving father. Kubrick changed the story at its core.Look into the significance of the bear, it was changed from a wolf in the book. Tony may have put visions in Jack's head and drive him crazy in order to kill an abusive father who was hurting Danny.

[@jadeandjesse5908]

The story isn't changed at the core, though. The hotel is haunted, and Jack is crazy. Danny's powers allow and fuel this. Why a bear instead of a dog? What's the deliberate meaning behind it other than it being a superficial change?

[@666FallenShadow]

@@jadeandjesse5908 it is changed at the core because book jack is a good man deep inside but gets corrupted by the evil whereas film jack is an abusive piece of shit from the start. in the film the supernatural elements are almost superfluous whereas in the book they are a key element

[@robertyeah2259]

@@666FallenShadowI like that, though when I imagine a wolf and a bear I imagine the wolf is the one that’s dangerous from the get-go. I have seen the Rob Ager videos about the bear stuff and eh, I’d be willing to bet it’s intentional but I also found the whole thing redundant. Like domestic abuse, and specifically abuse against children, is already the core theme of the book so making it a subliminal message isn’t really necessary. In the book, the lady in the bathtub literally molests Danny and he’s covered in lipstick and hickies and bruises.

[@sbunc92]

When there is a shot of a character with their head tilted down and the eyes peering upward that is known as the Kubrick stare. It was used in almost all of Kubrick's movies.

[@thoso1973]

Most famously in the zoom tracking opening shot of A Clockwork Orange.

[@emilytrott]

"Here's Johnny!" is the way that Johnny Carson was introduced during his thirty years of hosting 'The Tonight Show', from 1962-1992

[@chiefsteps-in-poo8447]

HEEEERE'S JOHNNY!!! That's an opening line for The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.

[@1s23d]

Stephen King "Salem's lot" was pretty creepy back in the day

[@lloyddobler2227]

I was thinking the same thing. For the longest time, I didn't know it was a made-for-TV movie in two parts. The director of it was Tobe Hooper of Texas Chainsaw fame.

[@johncampbell756]

Not a fan of the miniseries, but 'Salem's Lot and The Shining were my favorite of his novels. They are supposedly remaking 'Salem's Lot.

[@lloyddobler2227]

@@johncampbell756 I heard that Stephen King wasn't fond of the movie The Shining, I wonder how the remake will be.

[@johncampbell756]

@@lloyddobler2227 "Bitches, man." (Had to) They made a miniseries of The Shining that was closer to the book starring Steven Webber of Wings. I believe it was boring. King didn't like The Shining or 'Salem's Lot?

[@lloyddobler2227]

@@johncampbell756 LOL. Few get the name reference. Good lookin' out, bruh! 😂

[@Hawk170122]

Being a radio operator in the Marine Corps, you learn quickly that when all else fails radio is your best friend in emergencies. Going old school is a good thing!

[@xKagryx]

Part of the fun of this movie for me is hearing people pick it apart, loved this reaction!

[@johnmckenna5782]

I will break the movie down for you: the Overlook Hotel is Spook Central. Ghosts (and worse)) reside at the hotel. They keep a low profile when a lot of people are there, but when people are isolated and alone during the winter months the ghosts act up. Jack in a past life was at the hotel, and the hotel wanted him back. That is why Jack felt so familiar and comfortable at the hotel. Some malevolent force at the hotel was driving Jack mad and wanted Jack to murder his family and himself, so that their souls would be trapped there. Luckily Wendy and Danny escaped. I believe that Tony is a benevolent spirit that latched on to Danny because his shine was so strong.

[@TheCamarosBand]

As far as Jack being in the ending photo from 1921, Grady said to him...you’ve always been the caretaker, I should know, I’ve always been here. And Jack while having breakfast in bed says...I’ve had moments of deja vu but this is ridiculous. Common tropes of a ghost story. The Shining is a GHOST story. And easily one of the best of all time. ALL Kubrick movies are pure genius and masterpieces.

[@stevetheduck1425]

Previous lives: Jack was there in 1921 as well as in 1980, Charles Grady 1970 was there as Delbert Grady in 1933-4, there's more. Perhaps even the young / old woman had been there before.

[@el34glo59]

Agreed

[@1138gabe]

I concur that you watch the documentary Room 237 on your own time. Gives some different perspectives, and shows that the hotel design was made to make you feel lost the entire time.

[@ThatBlakeCampbell]

Too bad it’s a really poorly made documentary.

[@chart6454]

What the last shot means: “You’ve always been the caretaker.”

[@andrelima7425]

A little piece of trivia: a lot of people describe the girls as "the twins", but Mr Ullmans says at the beginning they were about 8 and 10. They just dressed alike.

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

The actresses are also clearly not twins...they just have the same dresses and hairstyle. They definitely have different faces.

[@VincentSaan]

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks dude.. theyre twins theres a video of them grown up on youtube

[@nathanjudy7705]

Some of the most tense music in this wasn't actually made for this movie. It is music made by composer Krzysztof Penderecki, who made very experimental and disturbing orchestral music in the late 50s onward. He was asked to make the score but he didn't have time so he gave permision to Kubrick to just use some of his music for the film. If it sounds insane, but not a sting for a scare, it's from Penderecki. Outside of what he made that was weird or disturbing, he was one of my favorite composers, so that is one of several connections I have with this movie. He saddly died last March just before the pandimic truly started.

[@dunbarf2413]

"The hotel that inspired Stephen King to pen the novel is The Stanley in Estes Park, CO just outside Rocky Mountain National Park. He checked into the hotel in 1973 for a one-night stay with his wife, Tabitha. Fortuitously, they were the only guests at the hotel that night. They pretty much had the run of the place, but King wasn’t convinced they were actually alone. The room he stayed in was Room 217, which is, to this day, the hotel’s most-requested room. The Shining, was inspired by these events and the overall experience of being secluded in the grand resort hotel alone. The Stanley appeared in the 1990s King-sanctioned made-for-TV series version, as he wasn't a fan of Stanley Kubrick's atmosphere-heavy, plot-light take on his material. Today you can watch both King's and Kubrick's versions on a nonstop loop on the hotel’s Channel 42. King might not have been crazy, though. The Stanley Hotel was originally opened in 1909, by Massachusetts couple F.O. and Flora Stanley, as a secluded, grand mountain resort. Though the Stanleys have passed, many believe they never actually left. Mr. Stanley has been reported as hovering behind employees at the reception desk, and Mrs. Stanley can still be heard playing piano in the hotel’s music room." maps.roadtrippers.com/trips/15921824

[@aguychannel6526]

oh my god if y’all enjoyed the movie, y’all should react to the sequel they did recently Doctor Sleep (it’s actually worthy to be a continuation of this classic)

[@buffstraw2969]

Loved your reactions to this classic Kubrick film! As in many Kubrick films, he invites the audience to make their own personal interpretations. The ending, with Jack in the old 1921 photo, suggests to me that Jack (after his death, from freezing) has joined the ghosts that haunt the hotel. They're immortal, so time means nothing to them. They're still partying like it's 1921. Edit: the ghost of Delbert Grady removing the locking pin from the walk-in pantry door is literally the linch-pin of the film. Before that, one could explain it all away as Jack's madness, or Danny's autism, or Halloran's superstitious beliefs, etc. But pulling the pin out of the door means the ghosts must be real.

[@michaelsims1160]

There’s actually an alternate theory to how Jack got out of the pantry. If you watch the movie when Halloran is showing Wendy the pantry at the start you can see a small door along the outside wall where the pantry would be. Figures Kubrick would do something like that to confuse the audience even more though 99.9 percent probably missed it.

[@mikemath9508]

15:45 my favorite jack nicholson frame I've seen yet. His incredulous, flabbergasted, and his hair, his hand up

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

8:39 - This sequences in the tricycle were done with a novel technique that Kubrick used for the movie that is still studied today. Back in my university days I used to study at the Literature faculty building because it was quiet. One day I was taking a break and in a classroom they were watching Shining. I bought some chips and sat at the bottom of the class for a while enjoying the movie (trying to be silent). 9:19 - In the book the maze was actually creepy with hedges moving and following Danny. In this movie it's just a maze. Also the hand technique is real but it only works if the maze is simply connected (it's not composed by physically separated parts). 24:22 - In this scene the actress was not playing, she was actually broken down because Kubrick made her repeat the scene hundreds of time without being satisfied.

[@dianedeck]

I think the purpose of this movie is to keep you wondering, or feeling like something is missing. I just resigned to it is just so bazaar that's all its supposed to be. After the supernatural is the unknown. I had a Big Wheel just like Dannys when I was a kid. I loved that thing. Rode it to death, literally wore the tires down till they had holes all in them.

[@sleestack13]

If you ever read the novel for The Shining, you may wind up with a different final opinion for the Jack Torrence character. Some of this is based upon the different ending, for sure, but also learning about Jack's own childhood and HIS relationship with his own father. It puts some things in perspective.

[@charlese2714]

I believe the changes made from book to movie are managed incredibly well. That is why Steven King has essentially disavowed this film and later got a tv miniseries that was released much closer to Kin

[@elskeletor3566]

If you watch the Wendy theory on KZbin you'll realize that Wendy is the one who is crazy and hallucinate or imagines most of everything in the film.

[@ThatBlakeCampbell]

@@elskeletor3566 fan theories are largely garbage and can be disproved if the entire subject is paid attention to, and not just the parts that fit the theory.

[@elskeletor3566]

@@ThatBlakeCampbell I received you watch the video first

[@jadeandjesse5908]

@@ThatBlakeCampbell i want to encourage theory culture because i love when people are invested in art, but so many theories are just awful and stupid 🤣

[@loganwagner1816]

There's a documentary called, "Room 237" and it trouble shoots like 8 different theories on this movie and there all completely insane. From the Apollo 11 moon landing, to Greek mythology, and government mind control.

[@allisterfiend_2112]

Just look up 'The Wendy Theory', I believe in this one. I've seen the others, but this one really seems to get it. The voice the guy uses for the video is strange, but he goes into detail.

[@MikeB12800]

I love how Samantha said “No, I think he’s talkin bout the cook!”

[@omnipop4936]

Yeah, they refer to him as "the cook". I just think of him as Scatman. 😄 Different generation I guess. Or perhaps I've just... _"always been here"._

[@Dogslife_]

And there's that one thing Delbert says (often edited out) that confirms it and comes across horribly.

[@TigerGreene]

18:30: "I legitimately almost threw up" LMAO!!! I had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard at that comment. Priceless reaction! That grisly old hag was pretty horrific indeed.

[@HonRevPTB]

You guys have to understand that Kubrick was one of the most intelligent humans ever to live, literally, he had an IQ of 200!!! Every single thing in this film is intentional and has meaning, every prop, every word, every camera angle, EVERYTHING!!!!!!! There have been many documentaries, college thesis, books, interviews, short stories and television programs done about this film that absolutely disect it, this film and Stanley are still a mystery, but I hope you enjoy delving into it all, because it's all amazing!!!!!!! Glad you enjoyed it, cheers!!!

[@JKM395]

This is the way horror should be done. Instead of it being all in your face, it gets in your head.

[@ibuprofriends]

horror can be done in many ways and dismissing certain kinds is ridiculous imo

[@brandonhendrix7223]

@@ibuprofriends preach on! I love everything from Repulsion to Blood Feast. What makes horror such an enduring and inventive genre is the many diffrent approach you can take on it. If horror only had 'one way' the genre would've died off years ago.