The SHOCKING TRUTH About The Sith in The Acolyte! NOT WHO YOU THINK! (Star Wars Theory)

[@Onasaki]

I don't think Qimir is the apprentice. I think they're both Acolytes. And working for the apprentice. Not the Master. I have this feeling we won't *see* the master. Always two there are, a master and an apprentice. I'm 80% sure that Qimir and Mae are sitting in Asajj Ventress's place rank-wise. Working for the Apprentice of the Dark Lord.

[@mwg500]

Palpatine/Sidious didn't seem to have any issue with Dooku/Tyranus having Ventress or Savage as "help", or Vader having the Inquisitors working for him. So the true Sith lords don't seem to mind having multiple underlings that are way weaker than actual Lords. I really hope the true Master/Apprentice in this show ARE Tenebrous (Bith) and Plagueis (Muun) as they were in Legends. And hopefully this show explains how Yoda knows about the Rule of Two by TPM.

[@MrDrama49]

Yes I agree u think the apprentice is darth venomous the other apprentice of tenubris

[@stevena.7022]

That's my take too. It's a better option, And the plot of Come Drink with Me an old shaw bros kung fu with a tea house fight. That makes alchemist Qiwir guy "Smiling Tiger"🐅

[@harryplaysyt1234]

One of the cats or directors or someone said we would see more than one sith in the show which mean we might see the master even in a short scene towards the end

[@AR-io8fv]

Is it Master -> Apprentice -> Acolyte in terms of ranking in common English or just in Star Wars?

[@mooonpaw]

What a lot of people didn't pick up on, is that Qimir quite effortlessly stopped Mae from attacking him further when she tried to kill him. He did it in an instant and pushed her up against a wall, somewhat shocking her. That, coupled with is unnatural knowledge about the whereabouts of the jedi means he is certainly a person to keep out eyes on.

[@fallenintotrance]

Sol is Mae's Darth Master.

[@dnbeckmann]

That sith helmet has a mouth decoration I'd say inspired by Abeloth.

[@gabrieleguasti5503]

I think Abeloth is coming if The Acolyte ep 3 rumours are right

[@MatthewTadder]

Thanks for getting me hyped!! I love speculating on S.W. For whatever reason I haven't been doing that with this show. It would be fun to see Abeloth setup in The Acolyte then return in Asoka season 2.

[@gabrieleguasti5503]

​@@MatthewTadder Mae eyes in Osha dream-vision became deep Black like Abeloth eyes are. And even Young Torbin eyes do the same in the Trailer

[@mattm600]

The masked Sith could be the first apprentice to Darth Tenebrous, Mae and Qimir are simply acolytes with no chance in hell of becoming an actual Sith. Seems like the masked Sith is set up to die, and it'd be cool if Plagueis kills him and takes his place. Remember Darth Tenebrous had Darth Venamis as well as Plagueis, so it isn't out of the question for them to break the Rule of Two in canon.

[@alexosborne1613]

I don't think we have seen the Master in the show. I think Qimir will be the helmeted Sith lord, but he will be the apprentice. Trying to recruit someone who can then help him take down the master. We'll meet the true master at the end of the show. I also think Osha will become the new apprentice and not Mae. With what she finds out in the show I think she'll eventually turn against the Jedi.

[@TheEbonyEngineer]

Thank makes so much sense.

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

The masked Sith could be their father…

[@Ann-xt4qi]

Haha I see what you did there

[@cian239]

It’s the lesbian witch lady it says on imdb

[@wesley8616]

@@Ann-xt4qi I thought she had 2 mothers?

[@OldmanSk8ing]

The I am your father line again. Could work.

[@typeonegative1835]

No… I’m your MOTHER! NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO NNNOOOOOO

[@isaackim7675]

It really got me in the second episode how fast that one Jedi Master already accuses Mae of being the murderer

[@NoPe-no4sn]

Well she’s bla……

[@carolbriscoe9337]

I don't trust her, the Jedi Master. I find it amazing that in an era of peace, they rush to judgement!

[@jarhn6685]

3 things. In episode 1 when the Jord wants to read the mind of the cargo ship captain, the second in command rushes to say where the girl is. They did not want to reveal what the cargo was. Battledroids maybe? I think Palpatine mentioned at one point, that the jedi are arrogant, and you could say he is right, when you see how they dont engage fully in their fight with Mae. Could the twins be an experiment to create life with the force?

[@webbdanster5286]

One issue I have is Qimir was stated by a lookout as someone new at the shop. Qimir told Mae he got clothing off the body of the old store owner (as if he killed the previous store keeper). So, why did the Jedis and Osha not investigate Qimir while at the store? One would think that’s a serious red flag for not detaining Qimir. As for who is the Sith? Look no further than the Jedi calling Sol and company back to Curisant, while Qimir and Mae are off to kill Jedi #3 (the Wookie Jedi). After all, she already has established she is in favor of cover-ups.

[@carlosandres7006]

Venestra?

[@noahbennett5420]

Agreed

[@blucheer8743]

I agree… but I wrote that off as bad writing.. they both talked about “killing Jedi” in a childish matter as if just another day at the office! Same bad writing that tells us no matter what it’s the good guys are actually the bad guys!!! Surprise surprise surprise!!!

[@KelbornXx]

We're only 100 years (roughly) away from the Sith taking over the republic. Surely, at this point, the Sith will be in higher places than a shop owner on a distant planet? Yes they're still in hiding but they've had 900 years of hiding. Surely they are in much stronger positions of power? If Qimir is the apprentice, his shop keeper cover is fine, but the master must be someone who holds a more powerful public presence, Banker, Senator etc.

[@chrismorrell6950]

Good points. But Qimir admitted to Mae that he took the shop keepers outfit. The Jedi from the outpost noted that Qimir is not the normal shop keeper either.

[@markkuykendall5475]

Maybe? Maybe not. Luthen Rael was antiquarian shop owner. We'll see what happens. :)

[@wesley8616]

Agreed, the Master being in the show would be strange. And based on SW timeline we know who the master should be.

[@infiniteethernal]

Quimir being the sith is awesome 😎

[@Pinkorchid72]

His acting was very good. Only JJ and Manny stand out…Carrie Ann Moss is awesome without saying. But, the actors who play Yord, Vernestra…flat and boring.

[@infiniteethernal]

@@Pinkorchid72 to be fair those two actors didn't even deserve the rolls they just got them because they have personal relationships with Headland lol

[@tw19771]

Qimir is either the Apprentice or the master, but he's definately the guy in the helmet. I don't see Banite Rule of Two Sith allowing a member of a coven of witches into their ranks. They'd probably ignore them as heretics, and wouldn't bring them on board because of too many loose ends as far as secrecy. And also, witches are outcasts, and thats the opposite direction a Banite Sith would want to go in. My major question is that this Sith seems to want Mae to kill these Jedi without a weapon. And at first I wondered if it was alluding to taking a Jedi's lightsaber in combat and bleeding the crystal. But she beat Indara and didn't take her lightsaber or even her comlink, she just left her for dead. So I find that a little peculiar, and a mystery why that requirement exists. It seems like one of those ridiculous requirements in an RPG game. All that said I have enjoyed the first two episodes, seems to be decently paced. And has some of the best acting I've seen on a Disney+ Star Wars show in a while. Manny and JJ are the standout performances to me, they are just wonderful in this.

[@GazingTrandoshan]

@@infiniteethernal Tbh Yord fits fine considering yea hes suppose to be a stick up the ass Jedi, im unsure how else you can portray that in a way people like

[@infiniteethernal]

@@GazingTrandoshan yeah personally his performance is fine for me too

[@artiemedley9369]

My suspicions were raised when Quimir talked about Torbin like he's either studied her four targets for a long time, or he's ex-Jedi, too. I believe he killed the original apothecary owner and disrobed him. Something is afoot.

[@runningisfast]

Whats apothecary?

[@JesuswasLeftist]

@@runningisfastpharmacy/pharmacist

[@malchalati]

@@runningisfastlike a chemist or pharmacist in the past. Use herbs and such to make medicines or poisons.

[@crimsonjedi]

Contrived writing

[@MC-zr7hl]

He said he did that

[@lorigoshert6667]

In the legends Darth Plagueis novel, Darth Tenebrous had at least one secret apprentice whom Darth Plagueis discovered and killed. I suppose that was fairly common. If Qimir is not masking his appearance and is in fact an apprentice, he could just be one who didn't survive to become part of the "rule of 2" lineage. Same with the nightsister, if she is intended to be the master or apprentice. If they're canonizing the Tenebrous-Plagueis-Sidious lineage, she might just be someone who didn't survive that long (unless they're compressing the legends ages of Darths Tenebrous and Plagueis and she's Tenebrous's master).

[@Hooligoon-Hāfu]

His master was a Twi'lek.

[@lorigoshert6667]

@@Hooligoon-Hāfu Ah. Remembered his master was female but forgot the species. Thanks.

[@mlgcarra]

I think is the mother, if the daughter survives, she could had too. Plus i think the hand that catches the red lightsaber is black and there is no glove on it.

[@IggyStardust1967]

Thing is, that Sith Apprentice (we're assuming Apprentice) is using a voice modulator.... so the gender of the person using it COULD be either male or female.

[@havitins419]

It’s gonna be they

[@orionarclight]

Okay wow, why would you assume it'll be a he or she, it could be a lot of other things. This show has been amazing just like the rings of power, can't wait for the reveal ❤ 🌈.

[@GazingTrandoshan]

@@orionarclight Do you have like a job, the ops comment is perfectly normal cause people are trying to guess???? Dont need to put in a passive aggresive bait post

[@SaintWombo]

Its 100% gonna be a woman

[@colincrooks3307]

Why Meg do you keep insisting the helmeted character is the Sith. They are more than obviously is the acolyte We know the director is using legends & Disney canon, we know Darth Tenebarous is the Sith Lord, we know he is Bith. We’ve seen the clearly white fleshed human hand of the masked figure. White flesh cancels out the mother. Just because the helmeted character has a red lightsaber does not mean they are Sith, remember Asajj Ventress? Plus this character has revealed themselves to the Jedi, that would completely contradict Maul to Sidious “AT LAST we can reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge” so that means every single Jedi to encounter the masked figure will definitely die or the masked character IS the acolyte.

[@jamiarab]

The master is David Harewood.

[@discobroccoli198]

I really think the helmet sith is the apprentice and the master will be revealed near the end of the season.

[@infiniteethernal]

Considering his mask, I think we should all know who he admires 🐙👱🏻‍♀️

[@BobFresno]

Jaws 😂

[@infiniteethernal]

@@BobFresno bruh you gotta aquaint yourself with Abeloth 😎

[@James-qi6zi]

But the real question is what are the sith pronouns because that’s so important

[@infiniteethernal]

@@James-qi6zi 🥱

[@xurxopineiro3373]

It's just a theory. But what if. The jedi burns to the ground the home planet of the twins in a effort to destroy the covenant of the witches. Cause they didn't like they approach to the force. For been too similar to the siths. For the sith himself I think that is a mind projection.

[@IggyStardust1967]

Aside from that last line, I think this is quite possible. Aren't these people similar to, or part of, the Witches of Dathomir? Whom had a long beef with the Jedi? The one thing I'm really hoping the "secret Sith" isn't, is like that "Assassin" in the Ahsoka series (can't remember the name off the top of my head)... when the armour is pierced, green mist comes out and the armour drops to the ground. THAT is one thing I would find just too repetitive, given how recent the Ahsoka show came out. The more I think about what some of the Jedi involved with the Twin's "fire" said, the more I'm thinking they went "outside of the Jedi Code" that we are familiar with to, in their mind, prevent a tragedy.... but which causes a tragedy. This ALSO would "rhyme" with Anakin's story if you think about it.

[@RinusSwiegers]

He has to be Darth Venomous.

[@MrJustwatchin9]

I think qimir is using Mae. He’s the one killing Jedi without a weapon. Because Mae is the instrument that does his bidding and is playing on her ambition to mastermind his way into that acolyte position.. The acolyte that kills Jedi without using a weapon has to be a master manipulator. He creates the circumstances that will lead to the death of other powerful people. I think Mae might even end up being killed and osha could end up turning to the dark. But I’m not sure. The great reveal could be that osha may have been the malevolent twin who may have probably even manipulated her way into the Jedi which could have sent Mae on a downward spiral. First clue; “I want justice!” “You want revenge!” Could be that osha might show more arrogance towards the end of the season or possibly towards the series finale. We’ll be left on a cliff hanger on episode 8. I have a bad feeling about this

[@stevenjaquin8218]

Watched the sith guy and thought, Meg called it.

[@jonathanfreyone526]

I think Kimera is another Acolyte.

[@toddmeadows8179]

It's Indara. Sith illusion techniques. Callin it

[@mattmillie007]

The Sith Lord has gotta be Tenebrous. I really hope it is at least. Maybe he’s searching for his next apprentice & testing both of them to see who makes the cut. Would be super cool if Qimir ended up being Plagueis in hiding lol

[@fljotavik111]

Rewatching the first episode and I am wondering if we just all missed an important dialogue in that interaction with Mae and Indara when Indara said that "the Jedi do not attack the unarmed", in which Mae emphatically replies with "yes, you do!" and not "yes, they do!".

[@typeonegative1835]

Star Wars Meg had a more dramatic powerful line delivery of the Sith code than any current actress in Disney Star Wars could deliver

[@ianhenry1031]

Hi Meg, awesome news update, very interesting video, I hope we will see more flashbacks and find out who hid what and when and kept it a secret which jedi are not supposed to do, thank you SWM

[@srfjolnir]

Mai, I am your mother!🤣🤣

[@penpointred]

Thnx for diving into this 🖤🤘 I can’t wait for the next episode(s)

[@carolbriscoe9337]

I've been wondering if the Witches were an offshoot of the Night Sisters? Otherwise, why would the Jedi fear a coven of Witches?

[@idiot_city5444]

People actually think Yord is the Sith...? Bahaha

[@greg.anywhere]

Yord was literally spotted dueling the Sith in one of the trailers

[@JO-qn8gy]

Torbin

[@allthatwecan]

Anyone who knows about The Corporate Ministry should also know about The Acolytes and their protection agency.

[@IggyStardust1967]

First off, they're getting old..... second, do they even take Republic Credits? ;)

[@hunterstark9556]

Wwf attitude 😂

[@thestreet4540]

Damn!

[@allthatwecan]

@@hunterstark9556 testing for genre overlap 😅

[@_thomas1031]

I'm trying to convince my brain that ISNT Ezra Miller lol

[@allthatwecan]

Be cool 😂

[@danyondavis]

🤣🤣🤣

[@AR-io8fv]

Manny might be a better actor than Ezra and Ezra is pretty damn talented

[@joshcoop1295]

It looks but that's not Miller

[@joshcoop1295]

This guy could easily been used as DCEUs Flash when Miller messed up..

[@mattmillie007]

I love that we’re getting to actually see more than .2 seconds of yellow bladed lightsabers. They’re beautiful in live-action.

[@VillageIdiott]

I like how Mae and Osha have the exact same haircut , even though they haven't seen each other in 20 years

[@malchalati]

Actually Mae has longer hair.

[@TriggerJim88]

The rule of two is explained by Yoda, a Jedi. How would he know? This is a case of an unreliable narrator. It's obviously a lie as Palpatine had trained both Dooku and Maul. Going back further, the Sith began as a race on a planet in a different galaxy. During the Old Republic thousands of Sith exist at one time and force sensitives can become Sith, as Vader does. It's insane how people took this one idea and ran with it and turned a blind eye to all the evidence to the contrary for so long, or otherwise nitpicked and explained it away.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

I find it funny how Disney markets The Acolyte. It says from the studio that brought you The Mandalorian, Andor, and Ahsoka. No mention of The Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan? Not Disney’s proudest SW projects. Both were being conceived when TFA came out. I read the ideas for an Obi-Wan and Boba series nearly a decade ago and years before Disney+ came out. Ended up as the worst ones. The complaints about these characters in The Acolyte are very valid as I feel the same way. But you can make the same case for Qui-Gon and most Jedis. Was Qui-Gon really that interesting? Not really. But it’s been 25 years and nostalgia glosses over the Prequels’ flaws. Prequels are now altered by revisionist history from kids who grew on them. Funny how Star Wars Theory whines about The Acolyte while Amandla said her favorite SW movie is Revenge of the Sith. She’s a Zoomer who grew up on the Prequels that Nia grew up on and praises to us. The irony. They share the same level of love for the Prequels. I’m closer to the same age as Hayden and Natalie but I see the Prequels much worse than they did. The Original Trilogy only had 3 Jedis: Old Ben/Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Luke. It had the least amount of Jedis but it was the most consistently good among all the trilogies. What made the OT work especially the first one from ‘77 was the banter between Han arguing with Luke and Leia. Han Solo made the OT more fun and funnier than it would’ve been. The Jedis really aren’t all that. A lot of them are devoid of great personalities. They’re just outer space samurai monks with telekinesis wagging their laser swords/penises at each other that Star Wars Theory enjoys watching. “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!” Great acting, Hayden. The whole diversity thing doesn’t bother me. Do Star Wars fans want to continue with mostly white male protagonists? Everyone needs to look like Ford, Hamill, Christiansen, and McGregor? Or in this era, Henry Cavill needs to have every lead role. Then surround them with an emperor, admiral, and imperial officers with British accents that Threepio has. I’m a registered Republican who will vote for Trump again in Nov, so I should be anti-WOKE. But I think too many KZbinrs do too much hating that it ruins the joy of anticipating for it. It’s all about algorithms and using hate and mockery to draw subscribers. It’s fun when people gang up on something. That beehive mentality. I’m fed up from both the WOKE and anti-WOKE groups ruining my excitement for content I want to watch. My family has lived in SoCal for 40 years. White people are minorities in this region. Hispanic dominates. There’s more people like Diego Luna than there are who looks like Henry Cavill. There’s more people who look like Ke Huy Quan in LA than someone who looks like a young Harrison Ford. Hollywood is populated by mostly non-whites. We’re no longer living in the 1950s anymore. Andor starred a Mexican while many of the best characters were females. Nothing WOKE about it, right? But if the roles are given to Blacks, females, lesbians, that’s all WOKE, huh? Both sides are lame and want to politicize everything out there. I’m not saying The Acolyte is great or anything because it’s not. It’s neither hot garbage that some KZbinrs are saying but it’s not exactly amazing. I think even if it was amazing, it would still draw low viewership like Loki and Andor did. Star Wars movies died in Dec 2017. The last real SW movie to me was Rogue One. Perhaps Rogue One is the only SW movie from Disney that I would consider canon. The Good Disney Star Wars Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) The Mandalorian (2019) Andor (2022) The Average To Bad Disney Star Wars The Force Awakens (2015) The Last Jedi (2017) Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) The Rise of Skywalker (2019) The Book of Boba Fett (2021) Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) Ahsoka (2023) 3/10 = 30% good Disney live action SW The jury is still out on The Acolyte. For me, it’s probably slightly below Ahsoka which puts it at very mediocre. Most of us still have 75% more to see while I’m aware some KZbinrs have seen the first four episodes of The Acolyte. Why judge it this quickly after only two episodes? Be like watching the first 38 minutes of The Dark Knight and calling it mid because you failed to see the other 1 hour and 54 minutes. Look at every season from Game of Thrones. Most of their best episodes came from their penultimate episode (Ep 9) with the exceptions of Season 7 and 8 which had only 7 and 6 episodes. Most of their best episodes didn’t come from the first half of the season. We still have two reveals that haven’t been answered because why try to answer them this early? It still needs to be a mystery crime thriller. Who is the Sith? Everyone has been saying it’s Qimir. Perhaps that’s who writers want us to think. And what really happened to Mae and Osha’s family? What’s the real story in Brendok? What were those four Jedis hiding or what did they cause that made Mae want to go Kill Bill on them? Star Wars can never win. If it tries to do the same thing (TFA), it sucks. If it tries to do something different that isn’t part of the Skywalker era and is set 100 years before TPM, it sucks. If it uses Blacks, females, Asians with broken English, and lesbians, it sucks. It wouldn’t have mattered if The Acolyte was good. It would still receive scrutiny and low viewership. If The Acolyte truly does suck, we still have The Boys next Thursday and House of the Dragon two Sundays from now. We get to see more Homelander, Soldier Boy, Butcher, and Daemon be complete jackasses and that’s a good thing!

[@amneziach7227]

Perfect take!

[@donnicholas7552]

Interesting theory, Meg!

[@brianpayne-q5t]

if they allow the legends plagueis story to assimilate into canon(which hopefully they will most of it because it is such a great novel), plagueis at 16 would have been well immersed with knowledge of the dark side. he was aware of his force sensitivity at a very early age and his mother confirms this to him. he used the force at 5 years old to influence another muun child to kill them self, so at 16 he would have probably already become very powerful. darth tenebrous taught him that every living thing in the galaxy exists only so that they can enforce their will and bring about ascendency of the dark side and the revenge of the sith. i'm sure there are many acolytes of both sith lords. the master hasn't made his/her identity visible in the force yet. no chance. so believe whatever you want, it's wrong. he/she is the phantom menace. also, everyone within the jedi order that has any knowledge of anything sith are all going to die with that knowledge... or that information gets deleted from the jedi archives. it's happened before.

[@breachparty3219]

Qimir is the Sith Apprentice of this era. He is the masked character. He is working to have Mae chase trouble to the Jedi for a specific purpose on belay of his master, Darth Tenebrous. The acolytes means nothing to the Sith. They are tools. Mae is a tool.

[@RG2088]

Could Qimir be Plagueis using a Sith mask? He's a heavy sleeper after all so it seems, which would be wild but highly unlikely. I also wonder if the Mother will resemble Darth Traya, in the way of seeking to destroy the force itself after her people are annihilated. If so, this could tie into the High Republic books and she could end up using the Nameless. If they do something like this id be very satisfied.

[@mayorpufnstuf4470]

The guy named Kimera is kinda like a chymera...

[@thedawninglight41]

During trailers, I was thinking Sol was going to be my new Jedi crush. I forgot this show was advertised as a Sith focused show. Nonetheless, I really don't care for how the Jedi are represented, leaning in on the not original, tired, Jedi-bashing trope. Everything is from a certain point of view. I will give it a view, but it is already leaving me with a negative feeling.

[@wyruZzah87]

Disney literally revealed in the trailer, that Acolyte's Master is black skinned (hand), so its either played by David Harewood ("he" would fit) or that Jodie Turner-Smith (Mother Aniseya), who masks her identity. Headland said that Acolyte's Master is inspired by Darth Traya/Kreia, so its probably gonna be woman, just because...

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

Lol no that hand is pale, the scene is just dark.

[@wyruZzah87]

@@Lilac-and-Gooseberries Nah, even in dark/night scene you literally recognize black skin, come on... use google and write "The Acolyte sith hand" its 3rd image.. and dont tell me its not black skinned person.

[@wyruZzah87]

@@Lilac-and-Gooseberries Nah, are you blind?! Check the screenshot: use uncle G... its nightime but you still recognize black skinned hand.. jeez.

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

@@wyruZzah87 Lol I did and it’s definitely not, at most it could be tanned. Definitely not as dark as David Harewood or Jodie Turner-Smith thats for sure.

[@wyruZzah87]

@@Lilac-and-Gooseberries Its bad quality, but its black hand in my eyes for sure. Tone literally fits Harewood or Turner-Smith.. lets wait for reveal i guess...

[@icedthai]

Vernestra Rwoh (played Headland's wife Rebecca Henderson) is the Sith Lord. Smiley is the acolyte.

[@billyjo316]

If she says “no I am your mother.” I will be pissed.

[@IggyStardust1967]

Why? It would "Rhyme"... like George Lucas intended.

[@stevena.7022]

We are your mommies?

[@toooriginal3816]

Qimir is the Master. He is also Darth Plagueis. The masked one is the apprentice, its Mother Koril. Osha is the Acoylite not Mae.

[@Steven-093]

Oooo I like your theory. I think the Jedi, particularly Sol, wanted to avoid Mae and Osha coming into contact. He even jumped at the chance to lead the investigation. “Please let me take accountability” yo he really just wants to make sure the Jedi council doesn’t find out the truth 😱 *possibly* Mae might very well be the only other person that may know what the Jedi are lying about. A big thing about the Jedi in this show is that they are very manipulative. With people. With the truth. I fully expect OSHA to lose faith in the Jedi and join her sister. At least that’s what I hope for. Having the series end with both protagonists being sith would be different and cool.

[@behavior852]

Meg, he wasn't the owner of the shop. Even the Jedi revered to this. By the way, I like where this is going. Plus, I'm smitten by the lead.

[@nathanoutdoors7981]

Yeah, I’ll watch the show when all the episodes come out and season one ends.

[@sw-gs]

I wish this TV series would show us a good Sith and evil Jedi.

[@zshah3107]

Fair enough!

[@Valandhir]

I hope that whoever the Sith is, it is not one of the Witches, that would be so cliche and done a thousand times over. Quimir is much more intesting. Did you notice that his name, when spoken, sounds a bit like chimer as in chimerea? WHich again hints at a mask, or a different form. Also, if Mae was trying to replace Quimir, she would be stupid to trust him. He also is not an apotecary, he says he took the clothes from the former owner of the shop, which means he killed the real owner, and took his place, definitely a Sith action.

[@noahbennett5420]

Agreed!

[@SourBogBubble]

Pretty safe to say this show is a money laundering scheme, there's no way the outfits settings scenes cost what they are saying and then what we are seeing on screen.

[@nutmegriot209]

unless post-Covid inflation has gotten THAT bad 🥹

[@empireofengland6039]

So,i finally watched first two episodes. My honest thoughts. Something new for star wars. Never before we saw on screen something like this. I love character of Venestra,even though i never read comic books. I consider all hate around series overreacting and hate just because hate. I consider those two episodes really good beginning. I want know more in this era,i want know more outside of Skywalkers. Thank you for reaching this. Whoever you are,be blessed,maybe force be with you always.

[@itz_Prettyboijay]

I almost want to say that maybe he’s just part of the knights of ren but that’s impossible cause they weren’t even a thing until Vader came to be. Idk lol

[@phoeni3902]

I think one of this shows biggest flaws is it's hour long runtime, it feels like the episodes were supposed to be maybe 30 minutes long but have been needlessly stretched out in order to accommodate a requirement that they be an hour long, regardless of if the script actually works well for that length, and so as a result it feels like hardly all that much happens in these episodes We've had 2 hours worth of content, that's the average length of an movie, and yet we still cant bring ourselves to really care about the fate of any of these characters, I think the hour runtime is making the plot of each episode feel mostly uneventful

[@obmarte3803]

Qimir looks like Flash, can't unsee it. Vernestra is the sith by the way.

[@joebaumann1083]

Odd I'm not hesitating to hear a spoiler from this. lol

[@marshalllatta2073]

I love the new sith lord in this Acolyte series he is so cool 😎

[@OldmanSk8ing]

What Sith Lord? Haven’t seen anything yet.

[@chrissanabria9891]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mahendraskumar1178]

What if it's a she, not a he. Sounds like a voice changer is used.

[@drumsofspace]

The Sith - Not being the ONLY dark-side users - IMO would be best for the story as some other dark-siders than the Sith. The galaxy had plenty of them, and to think there isn't any meddling around . . .

[@chadhicks3212]

Why does that sith helmet look like something found in the back of a local theater companies closet

[@alainorozco8032]

Qimir specifically asked to not have memory wiped.

[@Tarik_sldt]

Tbh Im kinda dissapointed by the tone of the show and the cinematography. When it was first announced i imagined something way different with "mystery thrillers about emerging darkside powers". It could even have had the potential to be the first R rated star wars show/project. And i hoped the cinematography would be more like andor

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

Facts

[@OldmanSk8ing]

Always with the Andor. Just forget Andor.

[@Tarik_sldt]

@@OldmanSk8ing just a good example of how its done right

[@nutmegriot209]

I love Andor, but I think this show has its own strengths & many intriguing characters already

[@kevinpotts123]

​@@OldmanSk8ingwhy forget Andor? Andor is the best Star Wars made under Disney so far.

[@MrSmiley1964]

The Republic has Stagnated. I look at the technology and the architecture and it is not only old but by the time of A New Hope it is unchanged. Has the Galaxy reached peak?

[@TriggerJim88]

I've heard Mae is the one that started the fire and it grew out of control. The Jedi just happened to be there at the time. The masked Sith lying to Mae to turn her into an Acolyte is on brand for a Sith. One character using a, perceived incorrect, pronoun being the only thing that works against the mother theory is wafer thin. Pronouns are fluid in modern Hollywood, the traditional meaning of words has been obscured and I wouldn't be surprised if there's some overall message about not assuming someone's gender, when the Sith is revealed to be a woman, or a 'they.' Non-binary?

[@KingArthurCrypto]

So why did he ignite his lightsaber at the end? To show off?

[@noahbennett5420]

I didn’t care for that

[@nikkenikNick]

They got that helmet off Amazon. Its one of those 40 dollar cyberpunk ones.

[@marknovak6498]

The Sith are evil, and a Jedi does not commit suicide. Just how does she get the undetected.

[@malchalati]

These Jedi were not as strict or emotionless as they would be later on.

[@marknovak6498]

@@malchalati Jedi do not commit suicide. this is just an unacceptable break in cannon. acter ten years of meditation a person just off himself?

[@Onyxmoon]

The Sith master is probably right in front of our eyes. It could even be Osha.

[@DudleyCreekStudio]

Chimera doesn't own the shop. He disposed of the owner.

[@DreadfulUtopia]

I have two theories so far. 1: The Sith character we see is an apprentice to either Darth Plagueis or Darth Tenebrous. His goal (aside from destroying the Jedi) is to defeat his master and replace him, most likely using Mae to help him, with the intention of making her his apprentice afterwards. 2: Jedi Master Indara is potentially not dead. The person we see killed by Mae could in fact be Darth Plagueis or his apprentice in disguise. We know that Darth Plagueis had mastered the dark side of the Force to such an extent that he could cheat death and create life; unnatural abilities which are unknown to the Jedi. It is possible that he impersonated Jedi master Indara to test Mae and see if she would go through with killing a Jedi, then used his abilities to heal himself from the stab wound afterwards. We don't know what happened to Indara's body after she was "killed" by Mae, so I'm considering this a possibility. Jedi master Indara could then potentially show up at the Jedi Grand Temple after being out of the galaxy for a while which is when the Jedi realise that someone had impersonated her, learning that Mae was being manipulated from the start.

[@TheGhettoGinger]

Plagueis is roughly 16 at the time of this show. He would have to be an apprentice as he's too young to be the master and he would not be talented enough to use Sith Mask just yet

[@DreadfulUtopia]

@@TheGhettoGinger Sure, so in that case I think the Sith character could be Plagueis. I do think the Sith character is an apprentice and not a Master.

[@TheGhettoGinger]

@@DreadfulUtopia I do agree the masked Sith is the apprentice but I don't think it's Plagueis. He would be too young to attempt to overthrow his master with an acolyte. Unless he's just arrogant and thinks he can do it but fails and that's how Mae dies but we'll see. Also the character model looks human and he's a Muun, a species that's incredibly tall and has a large head.

[@DreadfulUtopia]

@@TheGhettoGinger Yes, I do agree the Sith is probably not Plagueis. It's More likely he's Darth Tenebrous' first apprentice, who will fail to kill Tenebrous in the end. And eventually we will see Tenebrous recruit his new apprentice, who will be revealed to be a young Plagueis. This way they can both introduce a new character to the story while respecting the canon/lore.

[@TheGhettoGinger]

@@DreadfulUtopia Honestly, that would be pretty cool

[@Diatribal_Warfare]

I also have a similar theory Meg. His name sounds eerily similar to chimaera.....🤘🤘

[@stephenrodwell]

Thanks Meg! 🙏🏼

[@timpeifer6682]

The jedi found out the Mothers where A sith cult serving a sith.. mae and osha father is the sith lord and the 4 jedi tryed to hide it by burning it and never talking about it thinking they killed the sith ..but they didnt ..2 jedi in hiding and 2 jedi with regret

[@noahbennett5420]

There is no father

[@funTV-x2g]

I think Sol will become Darth Vader eventually.

[@williebanks1545]

Kymere is not the sith. She wouldn't have attacked him as an equal.

[@debbralehrman5957]

Thanks Meg 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@acenem]

More new characters put in place just to die? I’m sorry, I had better hopes. I’m not going to be staying up anymore to watch this stuff. I hope I’m wrong, but it’s my time to move on.

[@FanBoy_Prime]

What if Sol is the Sith master?

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

We see him confronting the Sith in the trailer.

[@kingpolu]

Abit ovs I think the jedi accidentally killed her family & when the sister finds the truth they will join up & then big fight at the end lol

[@standoutsteel023]

i love the speculation

[@mattmillie007]

So was that whole dialogue between the 2 of them a lesson then?

[@TonyMidyett]

I hope that the Toothy Sith is a tiny alien in a droid suit. 😊

[@wesley8616]

I don't think the SITH Master is in this series... Likely the apprentice training some potential acolytes.

[@ChristopherLeeGallant]

The Sith that we see is the Sith apprentice. The Apprentice is planning to make a play to kill his/her master. But in order to do so, the Apprentice NEEDS an apprentice themselves.

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

Yeah and this apprentice could be the one before Plagueis or possibly before Palpatine.

[@bantuboi3131]

​@Lilac-and-Gooseberries the one before Plagueis is Tenebrous, a Bith. It'd be super noticeable if that were the case.

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

@@bantuboi3131 Sorry I meant Tenebrous’ apprentice before Plagueis or Plagueis’ apprentice before Sidious.

[@davec8829]

Ok Meg: very eloquent theory. The problem is that even if some of those story elements come to pass, the direction, acting, editing are so poorly done so far that there is no suspense. Half the plot or more is so illogical that they should be ashamed. Plus, their publicly admitted efforts to pull current social issues into a timeless story is in no way a representative of the heart of Star Wars’ formerly large audiences.

[@pcb462]

Can’t wait!

[@GarretThornton]

Maybe the Sith master is a certain green skinned jedi master...the actor said that she had "been through some shit" ,

[@DRFOP]

Well this didn't age well. Disney did the obvious and gave us what we didn't want.

[@freddyb6105]

The Jedi are coming across as villains

[@captainmofongo584]

At present, that is my biggest issue with this show. Jedi also do not commit seppuku.

[@freddyb6105]

@@captainmofongo584 i didn't have an issue with the Jedi looking like the bad guys. This story is from the POV of the everyday people in the galaxy and most folks don't fully trust the police anyway

[@captainmofongo584]

​@freddyb6105, I've not read a lot of the High Republic, just the first book but policing seems antithetical to what the Jedi Order stands for. They are supposed to be keepers of the peace, diplomats, not cops. Investigating the death of a Jedi is perfectly plausible for this story, but telling a society where they can dump their trash (hypothetical) is something they would defer to a local governing body. If they took part in killing Osha/Mae's people and hid that from the Order, I feel like that would break canon.

[@carlosandres7006]

Since the beginning. They asked Luke to kill his father and in the prequels we see how this order created his own demise: Darth Vader.

[@pkk8526]

Master and apprentice - who is the master

[@amazingtop10q]

Darth Vectivis? Or Darth Tenobrous clone?

[@sindashsei]

I think there are 2 twins. Yord has one and he’s the Sith.

[@Lonewolfe80]

Ezra Miller from wish

[@macrotech6507]

Just curious, what's an apocathery?

[@cardsfan1590]

Like a drug store or pharmacy

[@macrotech6507]

@@cardsfan1590 No. That's an apothecary. There is no such thing as an apocathery.

[@wigglemd]

Thanks Meg! Have a Good Weekend

[@darthnito6336]

Am I the only one enjoying the show? my hopes is its another rogue one were all heroes die but instead of the a plan making it out to the good guys a plan is kept secret for the bad guys. And the fire in space argument is so wack really reaching to make a complaint, There is explosions in space in star wars with fire and the most out there one is that there is sound in space in star wars lol its space fantasy

[@davidmoore1102]

I think somehow palpatine has returned

[@AchyllesBr]

Its kinda obvious its Qimir

[@dotorg5782]

It's Palpatine. He has returned......somehow.

[@nutmegriot209]

😂

[@WhyNotCollect]

Maybe if they do a season 2 😂

[@truth_e-lectric50]

Palpatine was not alive during the High Republic

[@WhyNotCollect]

@@truth_e-lectric50 this is only set 100 years or so before The Phantom Menace so I mean........

[@dotorg5782]

A joke it is called