THE SHOOTING RANGE 158: The best MBT? / War Thunder

[@God-yr9rs]

When you had to play 2,000 hours to get the worst MBT in this list. Edit: 24.6.2020 - Finally reached Top tier.

[@Trigg3rHippie]

Yeah, the British got shafted big time. Challenger's mobility is poor due to a weak powerpack for it's weight. The Stormer is a specialised AA system while the other nations got more universal AA vehicles. Every time somebody says Germany suffers I say play the British and discover the true meaning of suffering.

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

@@Trigg3rHippie I play both and I can confirm, German tanks are way easier compared to the hell you go through when playing Brit tanks

[@manidontknow9526]

Chally 2 is a great MBT until Gaijin just makes it really weak and ruined the whole British Tech Tree.

[@chewbecca3830]

:'c

[@tigerii10.5cmpog4]

@@Trigg3rHippie You asked for it Germany suffers

[@hansm_0161]

Of course the best mbt is the Archer

[@petrkocich2014]

BoB SeMpLe MBT!

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

The M2 light. The double machine gun reserve tank which got removed

[@hansm_0161]

@@abdullahakhtar9824 wait you serious that it just got removed?

[@hansm_0161]

@@abdullahakhtar9824 the M2A2 got removed?

[@bananaman7529]

@@petrkocich2014 wdym Big Bob Mbt is the best mbt

[@jakobc.2558]

"What is the best MBT" Why is the Leo 2A5 standing in the background?

[@husky8894]

Becouse it's on the top

[@jakobc.2558]

@@husky8894 You are probably right. Also very uncreative channel name. Weard that I have never Seen any of your videos before (I like the one with the secret House👍)

[@husky8894]

@@jakobc.2558 :D ok,

[@gabrielg.e.j9060]

Standing on a higher spot on a ranking pyramid means that he is on the first place

[@willmarcheselli1986]

Why is the challenger 2 even there?

[@russianoldschoo48]

“Has no flaws big enough to mention” Nice repair cost you got there

[@jootkujo9075]

War thunder balancing tanks be like lets make leopard2a5 broken af and add in a stupid crazy repair cost so its "risky" if not counting in that it dominates high tiers like fire dominates small piecw of paper

[@tommyleesheils2061]

Give the challenger a reason to be one of the best and give it the L27 round. It’s getting silly now.

[@jPlanerv2]

and buff its armor, whats the point of playing challanger 2 hulldown when leo2a5 does this job better.

[@vladimirseesyouwatchyourba8928]

TigerLoaf Games I asked around and the apparent ‘weak point’ around the barrel of the challenger 2 does not exist the turret of the challenger 2 nigh near impossible to penetrate from the front its ridiculous how Gaijin abuses the British tech tree

[@JamesVDBosch]

@@jPlanerv2 They can't really buff it's armour unhistorically, the problem lies with Gaijin having introduced them at the same patch and at the same BR.

[@jPlanerv2]

@@JamesVDBosch but whole inside of the chally2 and armor is pure fiction made by gaijin so its their fault.

[@JamesVDBosch]

@Emperor Vitiate What?

[@foo-foocuddlypoops5694]

So how about that B.R decompression?

[@lafosh7234]

Best comment in this section

[@Hollycalvey]

that would make too much sense foo smh

[@Tankliker]

They only do that after more player get hightier vehicle. Gajajin isn't that stupid to just decompress and in the end don't have enough players at hightier.

[@adibar9066]

act it would barely affect the mm on top tier or the player count.

[@Lukos0036]

This.

[@stefannesic1495]

Yes the Leopard 2A5 is vairy "balanced" at BR 10.0, as are the rest of them. Vairy "balanced"

[@TheRealPatrick_Star]

Stefan Nešić vairy? Do you mean very? Maybe work on your english before you complain about other stuff .....

[@lukasvtipil9951]

@@TheRealPatrick_Star Maybe you should work on your social skills before going on social network... It is obvious english isn't his first language, but that doesn't mean he can't comment on youtube.

[@TheRealPatrick_Star]

Thelower Terrarian it’s not my main language either dude

[@TheRealPatrick_Star]

Lukáš Vtípil ^^^^^

[@halo3063]

@Dizzy_Naashne The M1 Abram was complained about which lead to it then adversaries, the Leo2k and the T64A, BR to be lowered while it own BR was increased along with new adversaries to fight against. Now I don’t see any announcement about the Leo2A5 BR being increase nor news about new vehicle that can properly fight it. So until then, the complaints shall continue.

[@cupofchaffee8875]

Shoichi Sugita *Player has been kicked for cheating*

[@Rennonetus]

USA Army has been BAN for cheating whit atomic bomb

[@Mrwednesday84]

@@Rennonetus US military MVP for using atomic wapons! GAME WON!

[@MAG_1204]

Nah man, he was blessed by the Emperor himself

[@christiannemec2324]

Why do mg in the hull on some tanks don't work

[@LordPotato22]

yes, answer this or ill stab your wall

[@unusualcrate4100]

I asked this on the r/warthunder subreddit a few weeks ago, a lot of people say that they would be useless and therefore not worth implementing

[@legogenius1667]

@@unusualcrate4100 I use them on the jagdtiger and other German TDs that have them. I'd love to see them implemented on other tanks!

[@LordPotato22]

@@legogenius1667 i like your spirit bro

[@TheCat48488]

Because coaxial mg exist

[@swedishstyle9778]

Here is what War Thunder have said about a Swedish Tech Tree :) Q. Sweden had a lot of interesting vehicles, especially ground vehicles. Should we wait for this nation to be added to the game? A. We see Sweden as one of the candidates to be added as a new game nation. Edit: Italy tree right now. Rank 1-3 = 25 Tanks Rank 4-7 = 15 Tanks Sweden Rank 1-3 = 27 Tanks Rank 4-7 = 25 Tanks

[@chadleyjohnsonson4865]

Great. Still dgaf about Sweden

[@royblekman8186]

We already know for the past 3 weeks.

[@yudhat1700]

ohh boyyy see sweedeb tech tree in WoT if STRV got in warthuder good luck spotting in with your own eye.. also it got demonic fire rate god bless u to kill this camping demon

[@swedishstyle9778]

@@royblekman8186 some people dont know :)

[@michelangelomiano4431]

Wait for next update for the planes and then for Christmas for the tanks

[@stevenjodoin4894]

When can we set a spawn altitude on test flight?

[@2milk867]

Still no answer...

[@poplee6478]

@@2milk867 Because then you would have fun. Fun=no buy golden eagles Not true though, if they fixed the game I would start spending money again

[@willmarcheselli1986]

The 2a5 is a highly balanced tank And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself

[@teddly2277]

You're an independent thinker, And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself

[@samsonstone764]

Don’t see the problem I kill it just fine all the time but that must be because I can aim

[@standardheat-fs8159]

Samson Stone yeah I know the feeling of having braindead enemies! Didnt manage to kill my leopard 1 on the side they needed 5 minutes with T62!

[@aidonger42069]

@@samsonstone764 boy your pixel hunting to kill that thing sometimes. that .7 br difference is killer man

[@ramenjoyer3463]

Be mad . We are te best and you know it

[@THEGREATMEMEWIZARD]

Clearly this video is wrong. The KV-2 is the greatest MBT.

[@SpaceCommunism]

it can one-hit leo 2A5 from front

[@thenicemaykr5583]

sturmpanzer II : am i a joke to you

[@hansdaspanzeriv1935]

No, it's obviously the Mk1 tank

[@SpaceCommunism]

No, bob sample tank is best

[@hansdaspanzeriv1935]

Da Vinci tank is OP

[@-Sober-]

“Best MBT is leopard” “greatly balanced” “no weak points worth mentioning”

[@esadkurt1095]

Now that the official War Thunder channel told some mbts are far superrior to the others, wouldn t it make sense to decompress top tier?

[@resistivewig610]

Yes. Maybe they will in like 2 or 3 years.

[@teddly2277]

Not far superior. There are always things that are better. They're not *a lot* better. Just better.

[@СергійКузніченко]

@@resistivewig610 oh boy, I have a story for you

[@thewonderwaffle111]

Who created the first War Thunder account that wasn't a Gaijin Entertainment employee?

[@warbirdgaming8091]

Putin

[@glendamaala4564]

I'm PUTIN my bet on that one.

[@Joopyter724]

The legend 27

[@poplee6478]

@@Joopyter724 Please spare my panzer IV f2

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

OMG ! The first question ! THIS ! This is the reason why WT needs a solid tutorial for EACH tier ! A tutorial pops everytime you enters a new Tier !

[@RogueCloud]

A tutorial for what? To teach players what? For tanks, everyone has to learn how to angle and to aim for weakspots. That's not something that should be reminded every tier. For planes, it's just climbing, energy, and aiming. If there was a tutorial for every tier, what would be taught? All the things I just mentioned would be learned through experience and at the beginning of playing.

[@josephb404]

It's about learning yourself and getting better as you go on. You can't teach experience.

[@polaskatyu9368]

You can’t put that into work since the META (most important thing in any game) changes every update, so no, even at low tiers the meta changes.

[@ricardoricardoricardoricardo]

Of course the winner is the biggest power creeper of this game.

[@legogenius1667]

And the M1 and IPM1 that are some of the oldest MBTs in the game? They are at 10.0, THE SAME LEVEL AS THE LEOPARD 2A5 AND LECLERC. Literally a tank from 1980 put at the same level as tanks from the 90s and early 2000s.

[@happalula]

the leo2a5 isnt as great as gaijiggles wants you to believe the hull is paper, the ammo isnt special, mobility is atrocious and its selling point (the armour wedges) often drop after a single hit taken..... all that for 20k+ repaircost

[@s3r094]

Also its gun is not op either its has significantly lower pen on the best apds-fs round than the abrams also using manufacture dates as a argument for balance is ignorant bc the technology of the 2000's arent in the game and the abrams got these improvements too f.e better radar

[@josephb404]

@@happalula no your just stupid have you ever even looked in ones general direction and it's not like you can do anything to it with the old abramsor even the new one really it's more OP than the e100

[@happalula]

@@josephb404 how about you dont throw random insults around and instead try to make some sense, josy? if you played top tiers for the alst year or so, you would know that the meta is "aim for the freaking breech", and since the 2a5 got its trunnion removed to decrease its armour around the gun and ensure it can now be oneshot through the breech from the front... and yes, you can fight against a 2a5 in the M1, you just aim for the breech like you do in absolutely ANY other tank as well, get on its side and finish it off

[@rebuffcard12]

Can there be dynamic campaign for tanks?

[@praoscrihdoe5463]

17:09 maus is being removed, so apparently that answer is not accurate now

[@stefantanket8735]

"The maus made a lot of players very happy.".... you don't say Gaijin...

[@lgfldon1]

I think a pretty large flaw in the test is the ammo choice per tank, especially at higher BR. In todays case should have had to do the test, once with the best kinetic round and once with the best chemical round. The T-80U with the ATGM would have looked silly next to the others if it used anything else.

[@omnipotank]

Lol ... HESH from challenger 2

[@greyfox7431]

If there gonna be a monster/boss battle on Halloween like your team need to fight the P1000 Ratter or something like that? That would be terrifyingly awesome

[@edelweiss-]

Haha yes:). Or someone can move the heavy gustav

[@PrintScreen.]

@@edelweiss- maybe an overwatch/TF2 style payload gamemode...someone made a video about this long ago basically tanks have to drive next to the payload for it to move until it reaches a point

[@lilyfurley9833]

get beckett to make it too

[@m1a1abramstank49]

GreyFox *Coughs in CAS*

[@tht1germankd576]

Me in the Ratte be like, "HA HA YES DIE TRASH"

[@sithrulezz423]

Here is a suggestion that would be easy to implement and greatly increase gameplay without any unfair advantages: The game already has some trucks with troop transport capabilities (M3 GMC, BTR, etc), but they do not bring any soldiers. My idea is that troop transport trucks could carry the troops to friendly capture points, at which point they would be "dropped off" and (I will explain this with an example) let's say that a troop transport truck drops off 6 soldiers at a point. the "soldiers" at a point will be marked with a small number at the point either on the map, next to the point indicator, or will appear on screen while standing on the point. Now that the point has 6 soldiers at it, friendly tanks sitting on the point may use these as a bonus to crew replenishment. After a tank replenishes its crew using the soldiers the troop transport dropped off, the transport player will gain spawn points, lions, and research points based on a portion of the kills/assists made by the tank which is carrying the crew members that the truck dropped off originally, this reward being similar to rewards made for destroyed targets that you have scouted. It will be harder to crack down on enemy capture points, but only slightly, as this will require defenders to sit on the point, as well as the troops being very limited, and the fact that players on the team are being devoted to transport instead of fighting. Here are other ways you can further this: Troop transports could return all the way to spawn, and then reload troops in a manner similar to an airfield's reload mechanics Troop transports could transfer troops between capture points, particularly on maps where there is a "home" point and a mid point in order to help supply the front lines instead of having them sit uselessly in the rear. Troop transports could supply crew directly to allied tanks, similar to the "help with repairs" mechanic. Unarmed troop transports could have a soldier on either side with a controllable machine gun (like the commander uses on open topped tanks) Those ideas I listed are totally optional. Thank you for taking the time to read this!

[@Que_Drum]

Who knows it could be it’s own game mode where you escort cargo and transports.

[@sithrulezz423]

@@Que_Drum Sounds interesting, but with gaijiin you start with smaller things like adding transports before asking for an entirely new game mode XD Altho in sim you do have to escort AI convoys

[@Que_Drum]

D Jedi start off small, see if it works, if so, maybe implement it.

[@kaijuslayer3334]

Troop transports could be interesting. And I believe most if not all countries have a vehicle capable of playing said initial role. Although only one I can give by name at the moment is Japan’s Type 64

[@anupamkumar4335]

No flaws for leopard 2a5 joke wht about its repair cost

[@theflyinggasmask]

That is why the repair cost is so high.

[@anupamkumar4335]

Try getting profit out of it.ok then wht about adats tht thing more OP than leopard 2a5 then why doesnt it have same repair cost

[@jakobc.2558]

@Chuck C Newer generations of MBT's? Well the M1A1 HA is older than the 2A5. Also most of the MBT's could already pen it if most of the shells where Not classified(Challanger 2, M1A1 . . .)

[@zuccx99]

That's why it's "balanced")))).

[@Seraphinus112]

The repair cost is that high now "because" people complained how good it was.

[@dirkvanhaperen]

Gaijin tbh the german 251 halftrack with the pak 40 would be an awesome addition to the game ! It's a very iconic ww2 machine ❤❤

[@edelweiss-]

But how you want to add it?

[@iota515]

@@edelweiss- low tier open top td

[@shimozukachi5887]

anyone else here who remembers the battles of sicily? the swallows had no chance against the skysharks

[@krosskreut3463]

What happened ?

[@wsmith6170]

Question: Is it possible for us to spawn in a more organized manner? When we start the game we are all bumping into each other. Tanks spawn directly in front of others and facing different directions. Can we fix this?

[@armoredlumberjack1999]

^^^

[@winchesterchua3311]

I don't really see this as a problem on the ground.

[@bob-ex1jr]

@@winchesterchua3311 it is a bit uncomfortable. A full minute wasted on pushing each other...

[@ukoctane3337]

The sad moment when the challenger 2 should keep up with the others off road thanks to hydrogas suspension but it still can't push 40km/h offroad and has a 30mm thick mantlet. You can't call the thing a challenger 2 when it isn't even vaguely accurate. SoMe OuTsTaNdInG WoRk ThErE

[@francescorapana3949]

If the Abrams is so bad, why did you make his repair cost so high?

[@JjjCDsjsjshs]

Its not that high anymore.

[@flyingdonut2799]

Cause warthunder listens so the axis players saying it's to OP so the Abrams sucksnin almost everyway until next update hopefully

[@francescorapana3949]

@@JjjCDsjsjshs before it was 6500... (rb)

[@marcusm5127]

@@flyingdonut2799 They don't listen more to axis players. They do their best at balancing with statistics. Unfortunately they balance with repair cost too.

[@francescorapana3949]

@@marcusm5127 T80u has more armor and same speed but has the same repair cost as Abrams ....

[@yuanyuanxi262]

10:30 everybody gangsta until the type 90 stands up

[@CaptainRockyFurry]

Hey, Bruce remember me? I asked a question about submarines in shooting range 128, I'm just here to say I love the game and all the videos on this channel. My question this time is when will resupplying fire extinguishers at cap circles be implemented into the game?

[@granmarbg]

Hi Pilot 22117… I am the wrong person to ask, my friend! The Devs will determine that, but are unlikely to announce it before they are ready!

[@letsgobrandontrump2024]

Bruce can you put in a word for of40mtca getting thermal sights please

[@teutonictovarish9626]

There probably was a ton of documentation of the HoRi production. The vehicle was designed in 2017 after all

[@arthursoares2544]

Obviously yes The HoRi was created by my father in 5th July 2017

[@southernbear736]

"The construction of the prototype was completed in 1944. The tank achieved a speed of 40kmh during the trials. The tests were seen as a success, resulting in the Army ordering 5 units of the tank. The tank was put in service as the Type5 Ho-Ri, as the production model started in 1945. However, by the time of the war's end, the series of tanks only made it to 50% completion. Only one operable prototype had been completed fully." sensha-manual.blogspot.com/2016/11/type5-ho-ri-japanese-ferdinand.html Considering we have the E-100 and the Maus the 'Production' can still be there if they wished to have 2 versions as the tank technically went into 'Production'.

[@teutonictovarish9626]

@@southernbear736 yes. And we have this vehicle in game as the HoRi Prototype, which is a decent T4 Premium. The HoRi "production" as it is in game, is complete fantasy. Japan in 1945 did NOT have the technology to build a 1,100hp gasoline engine. At least the Maus and E100 were actually partially built.

[@oliverhobbs2231]

I hate the fact that the chally is portrayed in such a bad light, I know for a fact the front armour of the chally one is over 800mm

[@Alpha1598753]

Missing its standart issue armor package it always get before getting on any battlefield, so its lacking quite a lot of armor

[@theScottishKoala]

Thank God Bruce didn't say "AMX-56" this time! XD

[@snonsig2688]

Ah there he is

[@SymmbolZS]

everyone gangsta until that tier 1 german tank that shoots 150 mm HE shows up

[@meesdoetregie]

will silent thunder ever be a real thing

[@Alpha1598753]

1. April fools events are, since the past years, always used to test new features or vehicle type 2.They didn't said no when asked, wich means "yes but more important things have to be worked before we start on this" so expect them in a year or two

[@vincentrees4970]

Don't listen to him Challenger, you're perfect just the way you are.

[@CK-td6lj]

How about next time you bring an M1A1HA or M1A2 and see how it stacks up....

[@CK-td6lj]

@Bleagle original T-90(1992) maybe the T-90A(1999) are counter parts to the M1A2(1992) and Leo2A5(1995)....

[@Kenny-ww4uz]

@@sdasdadasda2460 nope

[@jakobc.2558]

@@sdasdadasda2460 Makes sense. The US get a tank from 1988 and the germans get a tank from 2001. If you thought that this would be in any way logical or even slightly balanced please do the world a favor and never Talk about Balance in any game ever again.

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

Sher- Man You say that but the Challenger 2 is from 1998.

[@jakobc.2558]

@@Bullet4MyEnemy yeah, but the Challanger 2 is also fits in the current top tier Meta and is in no way overpowerd. The Leopard 2A5 doesn't fit the date and the balance!

[@romeovictor6223]

Some fine MBTs, indeed. I’m glad it’ll take three years to get one.

[@hennbu]

Tells why the Mouse is in the game for a reasen Gajin: Removes Mouse...

[@spindash64]

That was a genuinely heartbreaking story. Someone who survived million to one odds... when he really didn’t want to survive

[@GrahamMilkdrop]

I'm glad at least 1 person commented on the Shoichi Sagita story. I was beginning to think that people no longer cared for heroes and legends!

[@vladimirseesyouwatchyourba8928]

What about the scimitar and scorpion scout vehicles of the British tech tree also TOG TOG TOG a prototype WAS built and should be put in the game

[@thesnazzycomet]

And the scimitar plane too

[@Joopyter724]

Scout vehicles would be really fun for custom battles

[@tht1germankd576]

Btw people GOOGLE SAYS THE L2A7 IS THE GREATEST TANK TODAY.

[@saki1739]

I've been playing the game for some time and I really would like to see the Yugoslav m-84 tank

[@stefanmijailovic7733]

Yes pls

[@polakus9812]

Players:GeRmAnY SuFfErS Leopard2a5 :happy noises

[@vektorianwolf5827]

The Type 10 would be a great addition. it would make more Japanese players want to grind the line.

[@Roman-vj6pt]

“Authentic”, they got so many things wrong with the Maus.

[@batingbaton4588]

You kidding right

[@Roman-vj6pt]

@Eliza Cohen No

[@batingbaton4588]

Ight fam

[@Roman-vj6pt]

‘Ight fam’.

[@teddly2277]

Wait what did they get wrong with the Maus?

[@Rennonetus]

Japanese aces have always fascinating story! Brilliant Souls :)

[@davenicsky9375]

Currently the biggest bomb from my point of view is the Pe8's 5000 KG - FAB 5000, but I would like to see in the future. The Grand Slam - a 10,000 KG bomb developed for the Avro Lancaster that was in service around 1944 to 1945.

[@shanechambers9529]

yeah that would be cool they might as well add little boy, too

[@Ccofi123]

T80u is on a good place. Just think that is a tank being 10 years older than leclerc and leo2a5. I dont know how should future updates go on because most nations are reaching their final mass produced MBTs.

[@marloyt7786]

1:49 it's contra rotating proprellers not counter rotating proprellers

[@T0MB5T0NE]

Imagine what the Leopard 2A6 and Leopard 2A6 HEL (maybe premium) could do!

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

yeaaah, more power creep !

[@efewtenekeci]

Hell yeah with Dm 43-53

[@T0MB5T0NE]

@@efewtenekeci oof man thats gonna go through like butter 100%

[@touyube481]

The more modern versions of the leclerc are better irl

[@ashati3176]

Gamebuddymass m829a4

[@justinthomas818]

So the M1A1 came in last basically, not suprised at all.

[@skrrt1321]

Yup

[@burnttoaster6313]

The m1a1 has much better armor than in the game. I think the one in the game is the export version. It was supposed to be an M1IP with a 120mm smoothbore gun

[@bravo099]

I've been enjoying the "Legends" series , well the bf109 and spitfire since they're the only ones... My question is , will there be more of these videos with amazing visiuals and quotes and so on?

[@steelgear3876]

Why is the Warthunder channel so wholesome?

[@Loki1701e]

Wow the 1996 tanks beat the 1984 tanks. WOOOOOOOOOOOW, didnt see that coming. Lets give a round of aplause to the leo2a5 which never ever met a standard m1a1 or t80u. So balanced ))))).

[@jonathanchaves8589]

So why the USA army is still using it even now ?

[@johanlassen6448]

@@jonathanchaves8589 USA is not using standard M1A1. Even the M1A1 has seen several upgrades: M1A1(HA), M1A1(HC), M1A1D, M1A1AIMv1, M1A1AIMv2, M1A1FEP and M1A1AIDATS. That is not counting the M1A2 and its variants (M1A2, M1A2SEP, M1A2SEPv2, M1A2C and the upcoming M1A2D).

[@jonathanchaves8589]

@@johanlassen6448 then they will come eventually for now is our turn for being op you selfish north american capitalist pig.

[@Blandy086]

Some tank stats for you... M1A1; Main gun - M256 smoothbore (Rheinmetall Rh-120 L/44 smoothbore) Ammunition - M829 Depleted Uranium APFSDS Penetration value - 484mm at 500m Leopard 2A5 Main gun - Rheinmetall Rh-120 L/44 Smoothbore Ammunition - DM33 Tungsten tipped APFSDS Penetration value - 470mm at 500m So... What are you whinging about? If they bring out the Leopard 2A6 with the Rh-120 L/55 gun and DM53 ammunition, then you have my permission to whinge... Furthermore, why get upset at Warthunder? It isn't their fault that the U.S military upgraded all systems on their tanks, but left the guns alone... Remember, the M1A2 STILL uses the SAME M256 gun as the M1A1...

[@alphawolf1786]

@@Blandy086 that gun that we use still gets the job done hell it wasn't til when Germany upgraded their 120mm gun to where it can match the US version

[@Kevin-fj5oe]

Wait until the have the leopard 2a6 those L55 would wreck havoc

[@leisekrieg]

Hey Warthunder gang, could you guys look into the Japanese panther tank they purchased? Will it ever be implemented?

[@pablosarmiento3767]

LeiseKrieg if u want a panther play Germany...

[@4kato668]

if you could provide that japannese actually buy panther please posted it since the last time i heard from military history visualized and mark felton the japannese only buy panzer 3 or 4 and a tiger

[@rexforce6072]

@@4kato668 i just watch that video back and he say the Japanese buy a tiger, Panther, and some pz3 and 4

[@4kato668]

@@rexforce6072 ah yeah you were right thank you

[@thundercho]

And in the same vein, why not add the Panther A or G to the French tree. They used a number of them after WW 2 until the early 1950s.

[@blacktemplar7102]

1. add scouting to scout cars and scout tanks even on tier1 and remove it from not scout tanks. 2. add more scoutcars and halftracks like the German: Sd.Kfz. 222, Sd.Kfz. 231 (6-Rad) Russian: BA-64 PTRS, BA-3M or BA-6, BTR-82A UK: AEC Mk.I British Armoured Car, ... and the Skink AA-tank France: Panhard 178 Japan: Typ-98-20-mm-Flak-Halbkettenfahrzeug

[@Zsycho1010]

I love the Chally 2 and 1, they're very underrated imo.

[@gentlemancroc3767]

Are they good mbt?

[@rohanahern5053]

Luca C They aren’t bad, but not great either. I’d recommend going for the leopard or Abrams

[@gentlemancroc3767]

@@rohanahern5053 is the ariete good or the Chinese tech tree or russian ?

[@rohanahern5053]

Luca C The Russian tech tree is pretty good, they just suffer from a different type of transmission that doesn’t let them turn on the spot (T-64 upwards), and the Chinese tech tree is mainly indigenous vehicles, mixed with Russian and American vehicles.

[@gentlemancroc3767]

@@rohanahern5053 Germany?

[@MegaloHorse]

Pages of history up until now: -He grounded dozens of planes -He destroyed whole squadrons -She destroyed so many tanks Pages of history in shooting range #158: -Man fueled with rage and promise goes on a killing spree trowing himself almost hoping to die, but ends up winning every single time and being last man standing. Then kills himself in order not to become a demon. .....wow

[@randomless4603]

That epic moment when the first plane is premium

[@sticc.5483]

Everyone gangsta until Japanese pilot plays War Thunder in real life.

[@chxis2161]

look it up Gaijn, the m1a1 had 600mm kinetic protection against APFSDS on the turret and hull

[@fillantaufan4058]

Leopard weakness : 1. Lower glacist right side : ammo rack 2. Lower glacist left side : driver, gunner, loader Your choice gentlemen

[@capscol]

14:13 they dont capitalise they communize

[@certifiedomlayoo]

The Abrams looks so recognizeable when in a desert camo,when using normal jungle camo or winter it looked just like the challanger and leopard

[@Maxtaticful]

*work is going turtle slow... where is the Mig21,23 the phantom, T72B, T90, etc... some modern maps for the modern era vehicles, I mean Leo2A5 and Abrams fight in Stalingrad or Kursk? Not too accurate is it?*

[@kynanledee5089]

Emperor Vitiate plz no

[@bigbanana6766]

Maps bein realistic with vehicles isnt a thing, unsless it is a dedicated mode. We have tanks fighting in a USA map?!?! As long as they're cool and offer something different I'm fine with it, perhaps a new mode....

[@swarmergaming9546]

i think soviet tanks schouldn't be using rocets to destroy ground target

[@collinramsey3935]

When will more flying wing aircraft be implemented into the game, like the YB-35 and the YB-49?

[@randomless4603]

Collin Ramsey I think the idea is cool but I think they need to focus more on fixing issues with the game and not just add more, but they don’t like to listen to the community either way so we will probably get neither.

[@collinramsey3935]

@@randomless4603 That will be a big shame, since both are interesting aircraft, with 1 being a bomber and the other being a jet bomber.

[@CaptainRocky]

18:56 BalkanBeast is the undisputed champion for not installing this game. Kudos Komrade.

[@Seeras]

So what are the odds for the VK 16.02 "Leopard" to get implemented?

[@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544]

Seeras I don’t think it has a chance. Unless it’s in a museum somewhere with blueprints. It’s unlikely

[@yaotails6630]

It was planned and never produced, so there's a 0% chance of that chief.

[@Seeras]

@@yaotails6630 Some parts were produced. Would not be so different from other vehicles that we already have in the game.

[@darjeeling6721]

Still something funny I find is a lot of people forget the Challenger 2 has a 5.8 second base reload if your loader is maxed out and it’s 5 seconds with an aced crew, there for it ties with the Type 90 for fastest reload

[@Norrikan]

You forgot to mention one important aspect of the Skyshark: The fact that she's an absolute beauty.

[@generalrommel5666]

16:09 regarding this. I think the Object 279 fulfils all the requirements! It’s unique!

[@waraftermath4202]

I’m not going to touch 10.0 with my M1A1 until it gets buffed/better things or something.

[@michaelvigil5321]

Depleted Uranium armor😫😫🤤

[@shanechambers9529]

@@michaelvigil5321 AND DU darts, too

[@abstract0014]

The type 90 looks ridiculous with the high ground clearance lol

[@cero5094]

How about single missions for tanks? There are single missions for planes allready in the game so.. why not for tanks as well?

[@cero5094]

@ Ya and how about new engine sounds...

[@xen1874]

Challanger 2 * cries * where did my engine power go

[@hanz5555]

Where did my 5sec reload go... Where did my superior accuracy go (its better than german L44 because Its rifled) Where did my suspension go... Etc etc etc

[@xen1874]

Honza SHelly yes ik and wehr did the Good Turret armor go and LF plate ERA go all that stuff and the good L27 round as a standart

[@truck-kun5924]

Are you planing add some bipplane heavy bombers. I realy want play with a bipplane heavy bomber

[@Graczent.D]

We got the Po-2 Boi

[@nyarlathotep7204]

@@Graczent.D But Ilya Muromets better

[@truck-kun5924]

Po2 is not a heavy bomber

[@Graczent.D]

@@truck-kun5924 Like what? Most Biplane Heavy Bombers from WW1 they wouldnt be able to do anything

[@bigmeme8464]

Go to battlefield 1 and is done

[@Mgaming61]

*"The winner is the German Leopard 2A5 !"* Me: *Deutsche Qualität* ;)🇩🇪

[@ГајаН]

What you think about adding Yugoslavia, some kind of sub faction of ussr or like ussr because it has a lot of interesting light and medium vehicles interesting for game? Something like Israel in Britsh tech tree...

[@vladimirseesyouwatchyourba8928]

If they fix the problems and bias in the game I might start playing again I wouldn’t mind seeing Finnish Yugoslavian etc tanks in the game

[@ColPoutting]

Best show i know of. Entertaining, smart, great footings, very informative, cool music, passionate speaker and about the best military simulating game. Congratulations and thank you to all involved!!

[@snonsig2688]

War thunder is in no way a "simulator"

[@isni1946]

Why is the leo 2a5 in tge background😕 ?

[@gabrielg.e.j9060]

Vinh-San Bernaud Becasue it is on the elevated spot which means in most ranking pyramids the first place

[@CryBite]

The triathlon was rigged. Leopard 2A5 has the spear pointing things with which it can be effective about as good as the challengers or T-80Us front of the turret. Though once you shoot it off and with ATGMs or HE it goes off in ONE shot. it is about as protected as a 2A4 and we all know that the 2A4 has no armor to speak of when comparing 10.0s. + you can kill it trough the lower and upper front of the hull. So basically its hull is unprotected compared to leclerc which has the huge line of "no pen here", T-80 has a huge front upper plate that says no pens here. And Challenger has like some kind of upper plate that is also better armored than the front of the leopard 2A5. So the armor challenge is pretty much wrong. Since Leopard can only hold on with its armor compared to the T-80, Leclerc and Chally2 as long as it has the spearheads which fall off. And the hull isn't protected at all compared to the others. Every tank with the exception of ariete and possibly abrams got some useful armor protection in the hull While leopard 2A5 gets shot trough there easily. Just like the ariete. Its only place where you can't pen it is the armor that falls of and is on the front of the tank. Do you see where I'm comming from? Unpenable places of T-80U: upper plate, whole front of the turret with the exception of the tiny mauntlet Unpenable places of Chally2: some of the uneven upper plate, whole turret basically with the exception of a weird shaped mauntlet Unpenable places of 2A5: the outside parts of the turret from front - thats it + if you shoot them accidently enough times they will fall off anyway and then the 2A5 remainds with no armor to speak of if you're talking about afpsds 500-630mm pen In my opinion the right answer would be: 1. T-80U 2. Leclerc and T-80B 3. M1A1 (2A5 has more armor - M1A1 has more mobility, better surviveability, working blowoff pannels compared to the 2A5, has a better shell) 4. 2A5 5. Ariete and challenger 2 - exact opposites no armor, pens everything. And tons of armor, slow and pens less 6. XM-1 and 2A4 (XM-1 most agile vehicle in the game, 2A4 - a little bit more armor and a little bit better gun with the trade off of mobility) Now a little question for developers: Will something be done with the sanctions on germany in this game? I've been playing 10.0 germany for one day and lost around 400k in SL. It is the only nation I play on 10.0 that actually catastrophically gets to eat my ingame money away like a blender. Why does the 2A5 cost nearly 20k SL to repair. Which is more than twice the cost of any other MBT on 10.0. And most importantly why does 2A4 cost 14k SL in repairs even though its obviously by far not the best? You guys have just made a triathlon and found out the order in which in your opinion are what vehicles good and bad. Yet the vehicle that is so bad to even participate still costs twice the repair cost of these winning the challenge/triathlon? Its unfair. Type-90 is better in every way compared to the 2A4. Even has a newer generation ammo, is more nimble and still pays less to be repaired. Question for developers #2: why is type-74 at 8.7 with no huge repair cost even though it has the same default round as M1 Abrams. Type-74 has a better default round than the one Leopard 1A1 on the same br has to research and pay for? APFSDS 360mm on the copy of the tank that has a 303mm APDS. And has to research a DM23 APFSDS with a pen of 337mm ? How is that fair. Type-74 pays 2k in repairs more. -So a 2A4 is worse in every way that you can possibly measure how good a tank is yet it pays more in repairs. This is unbelieveably unfair.

[@maciekchrapkowicz6435]

M1a1 gets blow up when u shoot cheek so it's one shoot for everything...

[@panzerdespenser9030]

It actually depends on the person using it. But the best Mbt in my opinion is the 2A5. The worst one is the Abrams

[@panzerdespenser9030]

And the reason why I think the Abrams is the worst is the fact it has many weaknesses (ex: the lower plate, neck, mantlet, cheek, ect) and the people that I see use it just scream "Abrams is best!" then they die in a few seconds after that. (The reason why I say the cheek is a weakness is because I shot through the M1A1's cheek with my Leopard 2k at close range)

[@steveharvey4205]

The abrams is a good vehicle but it's alot weaker than the newer mbt's.

[@michaelvigil5321]

Any tank from rank 3 and above can kill the M1, IPM1, and M1A1 reliably just think about something at its own BR. Anything can go through the turret cheek and 90% of the time they will ammo rack you making the whole point of a blow out panel redundant. When i played the T-64B as long as i saw the enemy first the Abrams had no chance of survival with a shot to the turret ring, it would kill the gunner, commander, engine, turret ring, and gun, sometimes it would just kill all 3 crew. The M1 has the worst gun in 10.0, the M1A1 has a decent gun but it loses the fast fire rate. If BRs get moved to 11.0 i don't think any Abrams should go up eventhough the M1A1 gets a better gun it's still the slowest Abrams with the slowest reload.

[@ashati3176]

Michael Vigil Just add the M1A1HA and balance move up BRs and boom balance

[@Medskywalker]

Thank you for these videos WAR THUNDER.

[@MrHighsider]

The Point about the Leopard 2A5 in this Game is.. it was that good because the Best Players played the Germans at this time. Now these Tryhards play the Leclerc and make him to the best. Before these two it was the M1 Abrahams. Thing is Leo can be very good on big maps but as i remembered most of the time you play on tiny maps and fight on max 100meters. And there the Leo cant hide his Body and is easy to dissable without any magic. #Breachthunder This Game is dead anyway. Just an salty Community, hackers, spawncampers and the "Elite" switch from Meta Techtree to the next.

[@edelweiss-]

They nerved the 2a5 in speed, armor and so on....

[@panzerkampfwagenvitigeraus344]

Soo.... I am currently playing rank 4 USA ground vehicles and I wanted the Abrams... but after watching this I think that effort was a waste.

[@rodrigoouteiral6901]

Did the guns of an aircraft increases penetration wen shooting in vertical?

[@Seraphinus112]

Rodrigo Outeiral Pérez shooting at tanks? Is so then yes. Same concept as tank shells vs armor but from the air aiming at the roof.

[@sithrulezz423]

They have answered your question in at least 2 other episodes.

[@vizender]

Rodrigo Outeiral Pérez if you have more speed, your bullets will go faster and penetrate more (and it’s obviously easier to go fast when vertical) And the armor on tanks are lighter on the top

[@jaegermeisterjack4928]

Just give the leo 2a5 a br of 10.7 and the Chally the L27 than would be everything goof again...

[@mateuszmazurek6080]

Will Germany get any type of IFV like Bradley, Warrior or Type 89?

[@trossk]

France needs one too. I forget what it was called tho

[@DrSmallarms]

Probably the Marder 1a5. But mind you it only has a 20mm gun compared to the 30mm or bigger on most others

[@Mgaming61]

"We will test the defences of the tank by firing an APFSDS round that can penetrate 400mm of armour" German Leopard: Huh.... *Pathetic!*

[@wermyamy]

"the triathlon to TRUMP them all" he says as the most american tank is in view

[@Peno547]

14:13 "And they *Capitalize*" wut

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

"Leopard 2A5" and "very balanced" in the same sentence is a very weird thing to hear..

[@spasoldatin6258]

Funny how people complain about the 2A5 when literally the main advantage it has is that you have to, you know, aim for weakspots. Like with the vast majority of other tanks in the game. M18 players don't seem to whine nearly as much about fighting Panthers, even though they can't pen Panthers everywhere and Panthers can pen them everywhere. Wonder why that is 🤔Could it be that low/mid-tier Americans actually understand that they have to _play_ the game, not just point and click? Naahhhh, couldn't be.

[@blackorange5091]

The best MBTs in the game usually fight on the same team

[@bruhmoment2208]

Comments are just Everyone: 2A5 is OP German Players: Its not OP its trash your just bad

[@MrDinoChungus]

I dont understand why the mbt t-26 not here. It has amazing armour Fantastic repair cost And a big thicc gun.