The Siege of Vraks EXPLAINED By An Australian | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@majorkill]

When I first thought about covering this obscenely over the top event in the lore, I was told I was biting off more than I could chew.... Good thing I have a big ass mouth. To see the death whores of Kreg go here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

lore on psykers, mutants, exodites, corsairs, eldar paths, dark mechanicum, the lost and the damned, ork oddboyz, and squigs please

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

oh and ecclesiarchy lore, and list of planets that attempted to succeede from the imperium please

[@Dadecorban]

when can count the artillery shells but not the tanks.....Australians lol

[@kharnthebetrayer9710]

Khorne, I wish you made this video sooner I would’ve save me quite a few hours.

[@theinquisitionsparrot6749]

How come timmy never raises his hand?

[@KaiserAfini]

*In summary:* Everything went wrong, all the time. Then it just kept escalating until nothing was left but a quarantined nightmare sector of space.

[@jackcanox4015]

Yup. Ahhahah that's it ahahha the only ones to have fun were the alpha legionnaires and zhufor the impaler who stayed until the siege devolved into a major clusterfuck summoned anggrath and then said fuck it and left in the warp with his boys ahhaha

[@bobesponja3702]

WW1 in a nutshell

[@christiedt9818]

Inquisition has a simple yet effective method for dealing with planets that suffered chaos incursion: Khorne: get the mops Tzeentch: therapists Slaneesh: Scotchgard and new furniture. Nurgle: exterminatus

[@ghazghkullthraka9714]

And the Krieg fucking loved it!

[@nicholasogburn7746]

Just as planned.

[@diabolictracer614]

When the Khornate Berzerkers retreated to fight another day. When the Alpha Legion performs a last stand. When the Inquisition doesn't completely exterminate a planet after fighting an entire army of demons and chaos marines on it. When the Death Korps of Krieg gain self-preservation instinct. What the fuck?

[@aczeartk7032]

"There is a great disturbance in the force."

[@VS-010]

Everything went wrong at vraks except the glorious victory for the Imperium

[@haoo549]

Khorne and Nurgle: even though we enjoy deaths but this shit is too much to handle

[@whocares-u9g]

This shit make even tzeench confused

[@imperialfist2304]

Dark Angels: We have succeeded in our objectives and now we shall leave. The 88th IG siege army: But…you didn’t do anything but sabotage our own operations. Dark Angels: What sorry can’t hear you!

[@rexlumontad5644]

Cypher: Finally they are gone.

[@mattmark94]

Dark Angels being useless as usual

[@thelion2751]

Why are my goddamn legion so useless when it's not something in relation with the fallen? Why didn't the iron hands responded first they were make a better fuckin job

[@jerrysmith5931]

They're just the best. Outside of their own internal inquisition they couldn't give a fuck about the wider imperium.

[@rexlumontad5644]

@@jerrysmith5931 Totally not traitors Dark Angels are.

[@boredgrizz6037]

If the Death Korps of Krieg just so happened to have space marines, would they be called a Kriegsmarine?

[@DarkLordFromTheSecondAge]

Now that would be confusing.

[@michaelreuter2524]

Ja, mein Jeager.

[@bigchungus2667]

THE TERROR OF THE SEAS, THE BISMARCK AND THE KRIEGSMARINE

[@davidfolsomiii7663]

Or how bout Deathcore. Sounds metal asf.

[@itsprofessorcreeper2839]

@@bigchungus2667 2000 men and 50,000 tons of steel

[@RogueFox2185]

The Alpha Legion and Tzeench definitely had a field day with this war.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

I dont know, did the Alphas? Were they thwarting the Master O’ Plans or helping the nerd? Hard to tell. Did Arkos even know? Did the Dark Angels? Definitely, maybe, shouldnt, do it for sure!

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

Sad gasmask noises!

[@tzeentch8228]

Can confirm.

[@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269]

I can confirm, it was fun

[@riograndedosulball248]

The Alpha Legion definitely had, Tzeentch is angery-wondering wether they're fooling him or not

[@paulverse4587]

One of the most ferocious wars in an entire sector of the galaxy, with an entire high-tech futuristic planet defending, aided by legions of the Warp, and yet still signifcantly less casaulties than World War 2. While I get that just massively inflating numbers to match the scenario (so probably more like a few billion defenders) just makes everything sounds way ridicolously over-the-top and less personal, these very low numbers also just ... don't match.

[@kakyoin9688]

Well WW2 casualties for a good part of civilian casualties. I see it’s fairly reasonable since 14 million casualties in a single battle match up with WW1 casualties. Plus it doesn’t account for chaos losses

[@An_Inconvenience]

Everything is off about the numbers. Like Krieg had 70,000 artillery pieces shelling Vracks over a 96 hour period. They apparently ordered 100 million shells for this single barrage. Here's some fun math for you. Today your average artillery piece can loose about 6 rounds per minute. So 6 rounds per minute from 70,000 artillery pieces for 96 hours adds up to about 2,419,200,000 shells. If you factor in barrel changes then that's about 80 hours of drum fire, so just over 2,016,000,000 shells. Their 100 million orderd shells wouldn't even cover a 20th of that.

[@verySharkey]

When it comes to GW dont look at numbers. I am convinced nobody at that company knows how to do math.

[@lordhamster9452]

sometimes, the real world ends up being way more terrible than whatever we can cook up in our fictions. no matter how har you try and what the fabois tell you. it's sadly just a fact of life. and we can all hope that the opposite remains the norm.

[@kakyoin9688]

@@lordhamster9452 that doesn’t make sense though the imperium is scaled to a million worlds. The Horus heresy costed trillions of life’s and your telling me one of the most defining sieges costed only millions of lives.

[@codyevett2098]

“The only one doing it is Arch.” Oculus Imperia is doing a Vraks series right now. It’s really good.

[@Richard-cx9bb]

Literally made this comment 2 hours ago. 1 like. Wtf

[@danielbob2628]

Yes, but Oculus Imperia is... hang on a sec. Yeah, in retrospect, I wanted to have some sort of zinger here that insulted Oculus, just because you set me up for a zinger so well, but I don't really dislike him. At all. So now this great setup is wasted. Can you set me up for a zinger against someone else instead? Like Tabletop Titans or something?

[@Copenboro]

Timmy! Who let you out of your cage?!

[@sheevpalpatine2128]

Arch is annoying as hell

[@danielbob2628]

@@sheevpalpatine2128 We weren't really talking about him, but I'm glad you've gotten that out of your system.

[@stuntmankelp3198]

Hey what if, at the end of the siege, the alpha legion swapped their armor with the world eaters? Purposely confusing the imperial leaders and also giving the dark angles a reason to stick around.

[@HughJanusDaHorseshoeCrab]

That might just be stupid enough to be canon

[@axelgalloway4294]

Certified Alpha legion moment

[@PuddingXXL]

Imagine wearing a world eater armor. You'd get hepatitis B faster then you can say typhus. ^^

[@Batchall_Accepted]

That is absolutely some shit they'd pull

[@synergy8879]

it’s so stupid it would actually be canon

[@riograndedosulball248]

The little indication that Alpharius may have sent the Alpha Legionnaires there to make the Imperium take Vraks more seriously was totaly unexpected but makes a lot of sense

[@nate742]

It may have made sense, until the Alpha decided to stay instead of sneaking away

[@brandonvallier4214]

@@nate742 naw the death angels have some shady side dealings with them for sure. Just think about it. The fact that they stayed even after the berserkers left shows they did it on purpose. More then likely they were passing on information through "capture" while also keeping up the image of being traitors by continuing to fight to the death. Why else would the DA just pop up and specifically ask to be the ones to deal with alpha?

[@mapleflag6518]

@@nate742 Or maybe the Alpha Legion somehow convinced the World Eaters to swap armour to both confuse the Imperium and make the Dark Angels stick around.

[@vencislavgynev8282]

​@@mapleflag6518 Oh my God if true, this will be 1000 IQ level genius. But how someone said here already, this theory is stupid and actually makes no sense.

[@brendanolearybradford9162]

It was omegon. Alpharius got cut short by Rogal Dorn

[@lionheart6176]

imagine being a Krieger that was in that battle from the first deployment all the way to the end of the siege.

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

Tybork, the captain, later promoted to Commander, who was the one to cause the breach in the 1st defensive line. He was last seen in the siege proper when he assaulted the citadel. He was later assigned to another theater in a different subsector.

[@sombodythatyouusedtoknow9046]

I think that the chances of that happening are tinier than a Tau fan's dick

[@vencislavgynev8282]

The men and women, who survived the entire siege from tur start to its very end were real chads.

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

_"The bodies of us and our foes,_ _A sea of death it overflows,_ _In No Man's Land, God only knows,_ _Into the jaws of death, we go!"_

[@kellerblair2952]

This isn’t Paschendale

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

@@kellerblair2952 but this is a fitting song for Vraks.

[@insultinsultan705]

Up the irons haha

[@flyspray2829]

Run to the hills! Run for your lives!

[@justsomedude7583]

For something with so much official material and lore about it, I prefer the the super detailed and long winded approach. But still, I always enjoy MajorKill's take on things.

[@kanseiyamazaru435]

While I did enjoy Arch's more in depth approach, I'll always appreciate the short and simple ways to a good battle video.

[@majorkill]

Not everyone has the time for a 43 part series ya know

[@vontheunknown7982]

@@majorkill hey majorkill did you talk to game Workshop and if not yet you mind telling them about dawn of War to see if I'm making a new one or remake that can redo mistakes made on dawn of War 3

[@oskukataikko9320]

Its nice to listen to Arch's longer lore videos while painting. But Majorkill has videos you can watch even if you dont have much time. A good balance in my opinion.

[@vontheunknown7982]

@@deadlyydude5522 oh didn't know about that

[@xxklesx1]

@@vontheunknown7982 A big Part of his content is making porn out of gw charakters. I guess they dont like that ;)

[@jerubaal101]

I love the image of the Korpsman on the horse. It's an homage to a painting of Napoleon.

[@ncis501]

Bro facts it’s so sick

[@epiccrusadr8583]

6:18 if Im not mistaken this also is reference to a painting of julius caesar marching with a legion

[@Foehammer335]

I really enjoyed Archs entire series. He went deep into the tactics, artillery bombardments and politics behind it. No one can attempt to beat the series depth. But you captured it in 20 minutes. You did really well with this one. Like you said, not everyone has 2 days though.

[@isaacburrows8405]

They have individual artillery bombardments written into lore? Whenever I think I'm a giant nerd...

[@Foehammer335]

@@isaacburrows8405 In this case yes. In fact they went into detail about a bombardment that consumed so much ammo that the logistics vehicles started falling apart from how much hauling they were doing. Or stuff like preliminary bombardments, drum fire bombardments and box barrages and the like. Pulled right out of WW1 and WW2 artillery handbooks

[@boom350ph]

Mate if i remember there was a mad lad krige officer that rush in and get cartoonishly flung out the trenches by a chaos marine or some demon

[@coreystockdale6287]

@@boom350ph a commisar also was yeeted off a breach in the wall by a ogryn

[@isaacburrows8405]

@@Foehammer335 this is why 40k is the best. You really can't ever run out of lore

[@TherealSBlair]

In truth, Arch's series on Vraks was one of the best takes on the conflict available. Long as sht it's true but a great listen.

[@v_artra5399]

Every Kriegsman when hearing the word seige: *happy gas mask noises and lazer-packs arming*

[@evanlight2550]

Siege only lasts one week: *depressed gas mask noises*

[@TheTrueFeleas]

Whistle blowing: *Happy gasmask noises as they fix bayonets.*

[@hotpolishtakes9063]

every kriegsman and kriegswoman apperantly according to MK

[@88thdeathkoregrenadier68]

can confirm exept u forgot *eathshaker rounds being packed*

[@elijahnajera5425]

*Nearing the end of the war* Imperial 1: "Citadel in sight!" Imperial 2: "Chaos is mobilizing everything they've got!" *Epice yet dark pianos start playing*

[@VeeTOHFan]

Two titans, I repeat, two titans

[@thebbqbandito2868]

Zuphor: “Alright lads I guess my work here is done.” Everyone defending the last line: “Bruh”

[@kelvin__klein]

What I wanna know is do they still kill guardsmen after they’ve witnessed chaos? Cause I remember there being a bit of lore that stated that even if a battle against chaos was won, all the guardsman and civilians who caught a glimpse/encountered chaos were culled to keep the existence of chaos a secret. I’m guessing they don’t do that in the lore anymore?

[@SportyMabamba]

I think they retconned that to “any corrupted guardsmen are killed”; otherwise you’d never have any veteran IG forces. Witnessing the Grey Knights, that’ll get your unit exterminated

[@cyantile5490]

@@SportyMabamba why is that again

[@SportyMabamba]

@@cyantile5490 Grey Knights are treated as super secret by the Inquisition

[@superspies32]

Some may have exception like Cadian units since they have withness Chaos and trained for fight against Chaos.

[@TheNapster153]

It may not be as frequent or as blunt as it used. I'd reckon older guard regiments are still thoroughly screen especially those with frequent fights with Chaos. The veterans may even be given an option to be euthanised if they don't think they can handle the strain anymore. It's not really a bad way to go anyhow. With how bad chaos is, only the strong-willed get to live to see the sun set on their own terms.

[@Rundownman]

The way he screamed at timmy shows he's getting better, thats good and bad because drugged up majorkill was awesome

[@TheCorrodedMan]

He’s hopped up on speed and inhalents

[@primafacie5029]

If only he'd mix alcohol with his meds... he could go full Timmy. And you never go full Timmy...

[@ValiumCupcakes]

What drugs does MK even like anyway?

[@SportyMabamba]

@@ValiumCupcakes all of them

[@mugenokami2201]

@@ValiumCupcakes yes

[@bplup6419]

When the Alpha Legion get entangled with the Dark Angels, the only thing you can assume is that everyone involved is remarkably confused.

[@vencislavgynev8282]

Yeah, two very sneaky and secretive groups fighting each other. Also at the end DA won, killed or captured remaining AL chaos marines, but damn..they did only that, like:" there is a big and very bloody battle, but we are here only about and for AL, you can keep our millions heretics and mutants, thousands of Chaos SP and demons, you fight them, we deal only with AL!"😂😂😂 This is so DA. Or the case in the first stages of the battle, when DA were like:"Well...we sabotaged enemy supplies and communications, their logistics is damaged, so our job here is done. Goodbye and good look with the battle, we hope you win somehow!"😂😂😂 As DA fan i must admit, DA are really annoying and unpredictable and not very reliable, but on same time very good in their job and amazingly effective, but unreliable! Effective, but can't rely on them, but at least can done your job effective...and after that will probably leave you.😂

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

What you get when you throw Verdun, Caporetto, Passchendaele, the Brusilov Offensive, the Somme, Leningrad, Stalingrad, Kursk, Okinawa, Brno, Khe Sahn and Long Tan in a blender? You get Vraks.

[@mugenokami2201]

You forgot the planet sized amount of steroids

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

@@mugenokami2201 planet? More like galaxy-sized steroids.

[@boris4753]

Multiply that by 1000000 and you will be close

[@luangomes2431]

@@mugenokami2201 also forgot about normandy

[@axelgalloway4294]

A sprinkle on Waterloo on top and a pinch of love

[@do3807]

Dude this was horrifying, and arduous, a whole ordeal that would cause so much trauma. Just Tuesday for a Kriegsman

[@VS-010]

Somehow less casualties than ww2

[@do3807]

Lmao, you're not wrong. Scaling in this universe can be a doozy. But, I usually manage to suspend disbelief ha

[@vencislavgynev8282]

​@@VS-010 Here we go again!😂 Look WW2 was a planetary scale war at its finest. Around many countries and continents on hundreds of different territories. In which casualties them putt and civilians deahts around the whole world. And that was just battle in and about one single city, yes big city, but not entire planetary war, but for one city. So i think, that the numbers are good.

[@VS-010]

@@vencislavgynev8282 World War 2 was over 1 planet and to be specific 2 areas, the pacific theater and Eastern Front, including the western front too. This was on 1 planet where the level of technology was very low comapred to standard imperium tech. This was the era where a million men lost was abysmal and destructive to any country. WW2 had around 53 million died in 6 years Vraks had around 22 million died excluding space marines and titan legions, and this was over 17 years A better comparison to vraks would be the battle of stalingrad

[@silvertemplar8061]

Nice, you are explaining battles now? Could you do the Badab War next as well?

[@majorkill]

If this does well then yes, I really enjoyed pushing the editing a bit on this one

[@bloodangel19]

That shit show finna take a while to make

[@ElvisPrieti]

Badad war next pls

[@vladimirpootis3200]

@@majorkill Commissar Yarrick next please.

[@pauldestroyerofworlds9119]

Arch also did bodab its shorter than vraks i love the detail arch puts into here but i love major for his top 10 or 5 lists i love you guys equally

[@JohnDiabol]

Arch did a great KZbin series on this topic for those that wants to know more.

[@Ivancreeper19]

majorkill is kinda cliffnotes of arch and i think thats a good thing he gives you the big picture and arch gives you the tiny details both fit the nich well

[@mylex817]

20-30 million dead in a 17 year siege? That's not actually that bad, like 150 dead people an hour, kind of on the scale of the Battle of Verdun. GW messing up the scale again....

[@adamredmayne1326]

Oh nah mate that's probably just the Krieg casualties lmao.

[@jackcanox4015]

Yeah that's just the dead krieg ahhah to that you have to add 8 million vraksian militia plus all the marines (traitors and not) that got yoinked there too

[@mylex817]

@@jackcanox4015 so at most 30 million. From a battle this famous, with all the space marine chapters involved, anything less than a few billion dead soldiers is just way off

[@MrTuerte]

20-30million dead vraks soldiers. + maybe 1-million other regiments died in space or in the siege. 8 million vraks defenders + aaall the civilians died (turned into kinda zombies of chaos. Kids, women, elders everyone), countless ammount of demons and + who knows how many troops came from space to vraks, space marines, titans + defenders of titans and all the traitors. Death count could be over 100 million in 1 siege. The area was not that large even... but yeah it feels empty that large battle only had that ammount of deaths...

[@mylex817]

@@MrTuerte both Wikis say basically the same: "14 million Imperial Guardsmen had been lost and Vraks Prime's entire original population of 8 million souls had been consumed in the violence or exterminated after they fell to Chaos corruption". So apparently there really are only supposed to be 30 million dead for the entire planetary siege.

[@keulron2290]

Defenders: “We got this.” Terminators: “Bonjour.”

[@skeletonwar2408]

Arch: “The Emperor’s Most Holy Inquisition kept their expectations low.” MajorKill: “The inquisition said ‘Fuck this guy!”

[@hydraman246]

If there was ever a war for Sodaz to animate, it would be this war!

[@Szminsky]

This love-hate relationship with Arch, is the best kind of relationship.

[@whyjnot420]

This is called a bromantic rivalry.

[@skepticalmagos_101]

Now...Kiss....!!

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Arch is cringe

[@Szminsky]

@@ChillAssTurtle you are cringe 😘

[@gamer65688]

Someones gonna make a fan fic of this

[@ihaiaoconnor1209]

Damn I loved the whole map and breakdown on what happened. You made it so easy to picture it happening

[@lordkroak8457]

Major kills explanations on these battles are amazing

[@Grazias]

7:02 "some kriegsmen got into the enemy bunkers and desperately fought to hold their GAINZ" Majorkill:"I feel ya bruhs"

[@whyjnot420]

"...and died like the sons of (w)horus they were." This is how I imagine the script would have been written if there was one in the first place.

[@mikestafford6900]

Best video you've done in a long time, dude! I think 20 minutes is your sweet spot. Short enough to enjoy, long enough to do the lore justice.

[@benz505]

Gotta love war if after fighting almost every kind of daemonic foe there is, seeing space marines and Titans fall and almost dying, you just get on another transport and say "yeah, let's go to the next warzone. I'm down." Then again, they are Kriegsmen.

[@alexejvecera6317]

Sad shovel noise

[@88thdeathkoregrenadier68]

@@alexejvecera6317 HERESEY HE IS OFFERIGN US TO DIE FOR THE EMPEROR OUR ONLY WAY FOR SALVATION I WAS ON VRAKS AND SURVIVED SO U BE QUITE AND LET US SERVE THE EPREROR YOU H E R E T I C

[@88thdeathkoregrenadier68]

you can even see me at 11:21 im at the far left and this was before i got promoted to grenadier i survived cus of that astaries taking all the bolts instead of me :(

[@88thdeathkoregrenadier68]

and at 1249 as they needed someone who had lasted longer than 30 mins to lead the demo team

[@alexejvecera6317]

@@88thdeathkoregrenadier68 sad that they have to wait to die

[@Iceflkn]

I wonder, does a surviving Kriegsman feel jealousy at the sight of his dead brothers?

[@brandonberry1764]

Cannot even begin to imagine being a Kriegsman and surviving the entire siege from start to finish

[@christopherreichle6670]

@@brandonberry1764 our wo/man's out here trying to die for the emperor and just consistently avoids death over a 14 year, deadliest assault on a fort to rival forts. At the end they just grumble and hope they die in the next warzone

[@dash4800]

A 95% chance if dying and you fuck it up. How embarrassing.

[@AcoylteKraven82]

14:17- OMG I’m dying!!! The funniest part about that was I was actually thinking about that video when you started talking like that and then out of nowhere you put that video up!!! You may have just became one of my favorite KZbinrs!!! Lol

[@THExRISER]

You didn't mention those poor Sisters Of Battle that were being tortured in the basement of Vraks all this time, they all became mute from the trauma.

[@firmak2]

They survived? I remember them being shot in theyr room when they were starting to suspect something

[@nate742]

@@firmak2 that didn’t happen . They were kept alive

[@MrTuerte]

+ what happened to all the civilians :D

[@THExRISER]

@@MrTuerte They were mostly converted into the very cultists that were defining Vraks, I'm sure anyone who resisted met the same fate as the local Arbites...

[@brotherhoodofsteelsoldier1356]

@@MrTuerte this is warhammer, they probably died

[@swaggest_of_eggs7676]

The best way I've heard someone describe the dkok is "heresy detected, shovel mode engaged"

[@chaptermasterd9362]

Arch's siege of Vraks series is what got me into 40k, im glad it lead me to your channel eventually. Thanks for the new uplaod Majorkill

[@primafacie5029]

I did like Arch's epic review of it but speed running key events is a really good idea. Keep em coming.

[@stoat7]

That was less "shit hit the fan" and more "constant stream of diarreha in a leaf blower"

[@dohj4959]

That was a one shot espresso to arch's latte. I appreciate what you did. Truly to make it engaging while condensing it to less than 30 minutes combines the mind of a custodes with the enthusiasm of an orc.

[@SerusKellen]

Arch's series was actually really good. gotta give credit where credit is due, it used to be my weekly treat, was like listening to an audiobook presented with enthusiasm

[@majesticturtle7037]

Except kill is cool and arch just gives me shivers when I see his face

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

hell yeah! i was listening to it during breakfast for a good few months

[@leadingauctions8440]

One big mistake Majorkill made: The Gray Knights were there, so those remaining kriegsmen were not allowed to leave the planet alive.

[@lionheart6176]

kriegsman "thank the emperor"

[@leadingauctions8440]

@@lionheart6176 Very true. But still an error.

[@stephanusswanepoel6015]

Let's not also forget that there was fighting in space of the Imp Navy against Chaos, which was also most of the time a complete charlie-foxtrot for both sides.

[@firmak2]

As majorkill said, he skipped a lot. Arches 43 videos arent there for the lols

[@roster491]

Love the slightly longer video and battle map edits. Good stuff!

[@spider-spectre]

I always found it funny how, while still epic, the control of a planet/system always involves smaller numbers than some world war battles and somehow the fate of the entire system is dependent on one spot on one planet.

[@tybaltmarr2158]

GWs grasp of numbers have always been shit. “4million gaurdsmen!!” sounds impressive until you realise the battle of the Somme had over 1million fatalities.

[@alexmacdonald1998]

In GWs defence, im pretty sure that Vraks only had one point of interest, which was the departmento munitorum facility. The rest of the planet was an inhospitable wasteland, this being the major reason the death korps were selected, as they require no special training nor extra equipment to maintain ongoing operations on such a shithole. They administratum does not care about guardsmans feelings (for more info, see 15 hours or any other early guard novel), so imo this is the reason (beyond convenience) that the krieg were chosen. As for other warzones, yeah, you got a point, I mean, Ive always wondered how a company of space marines could conquer a planet with 5 billion people, millions of professional soldiers with armour and artillery support and even tactical cruise missles, nukes and orbital lasers n shit. Assuming one astartes carries a bolter with 3 magazines with 50 rounds each, we have 200 rounds x 100 astartes = 20000 rounds. Assuming each round equates to a kill, we have 20000 kills prior to re supply. which means that it would require 50 resupplies to wipe out a million enemy soldiers. This gives a chaos corrupted pdf force 50 chances to use conventional artillery or orbital weaponry to take out a substantial part of the astartes force, or at least neutralize their combat effectiveness. And thats just the start. How exactly can 1000 soldiers operate across an entire planet? An army of a million would be broken down into between 500 and 1000 battalions, presumably with support assets. Plot armour aside, one or two soldiers cannot take out a battalion with only 200 rounds each. Thats why I like fluff like this, where the astartes are used as surgical strike forces and large armies of cannon fodder get to experience the constant boredom, interupted by sometimes terminal excitement, that is a warzone.

[@justanotherguyful]

Very true, Majorkill even mentions this and says that what he does to make the numbers make more sense is add another zero to every military number like a chapter of space marines does not have just a 1000 space marines (ridiculously low number to fight galactic wars) but instead has 10 000. the legions did not have 200 000 (how can you wipe out entire interstellar civilizations with just 200 thousand soldiers no matter how good they are?) space marines each but 2 million. But honestly GWs numbers are so low I think adding 2 zeros would make more sense, a chapter of a 100 000 space marines could actually be considered a real army. And a legion of 20 million space marines I could start believing could theoretically take over interstellar civilizations. This planet though was just an armory world and mostly a dead world with only a few millions people living on it so the engagement actually made sense. But any other engagement where a civilized star system revolts along with its capital planet which would have billions of humans living on it would of course have way more soldiers than just 8 million. For example Germany a single country with a population of 70 milion during world war 2 was able to have far more than that ( nazi germany had around 14 million soldiers). If we go by that example a planet of 7 billion humans that are as motivated as Nazi Germany would literally have over a billion well armed and well trained and capable soldiers even 10 000 space marines could not put a dent in that lmao. So yeah I agree the numbers are all fucked and make no sense someone with a brain has to fix that in warhammer 40k eventually. Its so bad that retconning past retarded numbers would make sense and just replace it all with sensible numbers.

[@winstonlewis5630]

Yea idk how sci fi gets this wrong they are trillions maybe even more people in the imperium but the battles are below ten million and are considered big while our planet with 7 billion have battles that have ranged into 50+ million combatants Star Wars is the same 2 million clones for an entire galaxy makes zero sense.

[@justanotherguyful]

@@winstonlewis5630 oh dang didnt notice star wars had the same idiotic numbers too, lmao.

[@Sauron-bt8yp]

*0:56* That roast mate XD

[@ariole6276]

Another lore video on The Seige of Vraks. Finally!

[@Dalton100]

Imagine being a guardsmen who saw this through start to finish. Truly a legend among men.

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

Tybork. The captain that achieved the breach in the first defensive line. He later was promoted to colonel and led an attack on the citadel. He survived Vraks and was promoted to commander.

[@mdandrews]

Arch’s series on Vraks is pretty fun for the most part, and his badab series too

[@shanewebb3341]

@@netman446 For the most part he did other than a few innuendo and jokes.

[@claudiu-mihaipuiu1221]

@@netman446 Watched both series and he kept his personal opinions out of it. When you have the time, do watch his series on both Vraks and Badab.

[@danielbob2628]

@@netman446 I remember counting about 3-4 times in the entire series that he mentioned modern sociopolitics.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

@@netman446 what is his political opinion exactly? I’ve only ever seen people calling him a nazi and that just doesn’t seem right; I’ve been watching him for a while and seen nothing that seemed to suggest that outlook

[@theplaylistcollector2910]

@@TheCorrodedMan pretty sure some discord screenshots came out showing that, you could probably look them up

[@AshesWorkshop]

So basically WW1 on steroids caused an entire system to become Earth from Doom

[@jediastartes6595]

Came expecting the usual Majorkill lore video, received a visual battle breakdown on par with Eckhartsladder.

[@gabrielortiz3811]

I'm pretty sure the Alpha Legion swapped their gear with the Khornite warlords and fled or maybe only some did or maybe not? Idk it's the Alpha Legion

[@VS-010]

You never know because I am Alpharius

[@maxbeboid6374]

We were so close to getting this animated now it will never happen. THANK GW.

[@morgs456]

The old general was fired and a new one with more experience was brought in Who demanded more men firepower and stuff Well, he sounds like a tactical genius lmao GW need to start hiring ex military for their lore

[@fredthecosmicchicken6737]

the charm of arch's siege of vraks series is well beyond you little man

[@Callsign_Bear]

It's okay Fred. I'll be taking you to KFC soon.

[@fredthecosmicchicken6737]

@@Callsign_Bear no mortal can survive eating cosmic poultry, your mind will shatter

[@Callsign_Bear]

@@fredthecosmicchicken6737 But I will try. And if my mind goes, so what? It's already far gone. This will just be a little farther. I mean, does my face look like a sane man's?

[@jaymz18]

this was awesome, great video man. i think you captured the whole siege in a good timeframe, and really enjoyed the map actually showing the forces, i think that added a lot. saw you were thinking of doing the badab war, that would be sweet. keep up the good content legend hope the lockdown in melbourne is treating you alright

[@chaselabonne3173]

Love listening to your lore videos Majorkill . Don’t really subscribe or watch people consistently but your voice, humor, and ability to explain Warhammer in-depth is totally incredible. Thanks for all the vids (:

[@thomas_dries]

“A Megafucktillion heretics died”. Ah, my new favorite number :)

[@NapGod]

I consume so many audiobooks and lore videos and there's still random conflicts I've never heard of. Fuckin love 40k.

[@johnsoulou9720]

Love him or hate him, Arch did an amazing job in the vraks series

[@Ghostwolf82]

“until it fucking wasn’t...” - Majorkill, multiple times, 14th August, 2021.

[@bringmemyflail1321]

R.i.p. Timmy. Killed by the overlords.

[@chinua2584]

Arch's approach was really good to listen to through my headphones in one ear while I'm at work. Coincidentally also where I'm listening to this video. Just a little bit of background dialogue in my ear goes a long way to break up monotony.

[@Animum6062]

Too true

[@wazzupsters]

I just finished that the other day, it was such a Epic. It showed how the Kreig stayed and fought the hard fight even when Space Marine chapters came and gone because it was exceptionally brutal and twisted. Too bad the ending was bittersweet and is kinda bullshit.

[@diegomorales3735]

Thank god I don’t need to watch arch explain everyone’s breakfast in a 50 hour series

[@MrTuerte]

But that series was really good. In 1-2 months i listened all the episodes.

[@johndoyle8694]

Map graphics were a great touch would love to see more of that in your vids. As always commentary top notch!

[@michasalamon8315]

Not gonna lie. I would love read a Helsreach like novel, but with both Heretic and Loyalist sides of the story, without the evil mustache twirling on either side.

[@SerusKellen]

idk if you've read the Horus Heresy but that's pretty much it. Especially through the short stories you get the big picture. You see alot of the traitor Astartes for what they are, some are demented and twisted but others were just confused but by design were to follow their Primarch

[@michasalamon8315]

@@SerusKellen I have read Horus Heresy and Siege of Terra books. Not all admitedly, but many, and each time when reading them I always couldn’t shake off a feeling that the loyalists were winning. It just felt like in every book the chaos was bleeding for every step they took. In Solar War for example, the book starts with Sigismund standing in his command bridge, literally camping off traitor ships after Dorn killed Alpharius or Omegon and learned from Alpha legion intel in the previous books where Horus was going to Enter the system. I guess I never really felt while reading the 40k novels that chaos was winning in anyway. They never really got a big win, even Istvaan 3 and 4 were said to be very bloody for both loyalists and traitors. The Lords of Silence were a forst book that change that, as I finally felt that chaos did score a win. If you know more novels like that Please do tell me.

[@hush9639]

@@michasalamon8315 it doesn’t help that some traitors went crazy stupid and became useless in the ways of tactics for some reason looking at Angron here.

[@purpleanon276]

I mean that’s what this story is the traitors were not even worshipping chaos until serval years into the war and the cardinal did not order the uprising it happened because people thought we was dead when he was only knocked out from the sniper by the time he woke up the world had overthrown the government and declared him in change then he tried to make peace with the imperium but they didn’t want to

[@inquisitorcypher2711]

I have listened to All of Arch's Material because a True Inquisitor ALWAYS gets all the Intel to make the most Unbiased and clearist viewpoint. he actually does quite a great job of it, his subscription count isn't a fluke.

[@tomyorke3412]

"Hanzs get the shovel the heavy shovel"

[@gavinvick3592]

The only thing I like about Krieg is that fact that they use e-shovels to beat their enemies to death

[@SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk]

As one does!!

[@Billy82605]

I’m so early that Majorkill hasn’t advertised his 40k Hentai yet on his Patreon

[@Magos_Fritz]

Surely I'm not the only one that likes both Majorkill and Arch.

[@littlejohn8435]

The Siege of Vraks would be a cool PVE RTS.

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

Play Dawn of War Soulstorm with the Unification mod. Then play a large map (theres even one called Vraks Space Port!) as either the DKoK, Daemonhunters, Daemons, Chaos Space Marines (they have access to mortal cultists or renegade guard squads) World Eaters (you ca deploy Zufor) or Imperial Guard with Chaos paint. Though soon the mod version 7.0 will introduce Renegade Guard as a full faction.

[@1098234567]

Man the arch cover of this was super good though, it was like listening to an audio book, legit forgot it wasn't a book.

[@ahmedabdolghani8879]

Been waiting for this after arch’s videos

[@coops3600]

>planet too defended to orbitally bomb >planet didn't have a fleet to prevent the landing of ground troops ????

[@bigmikk63]

Never clicked faster, this should be fun.

[@MyNameIsntReallyNate]

Same. Not dissapointed also. Especially with how much energy he put into telling Timmy to shut up.

[@Nomadic_Gaming]

ah yes a vid from the days when major and arch used to poke fun at each other good times

[@adrianl415]

Holy shit this would make a good trilogy movie!

[@firmak2]

That being said the hardest decision would be how to tell the story since there is no main character

[@PoorManatee6197]

@@firmak2 there could be 1 character on each side, 1 is a kriegsman that somehow survives from day 1 to the end of the war and the other a civilian from vraks that starts as a emperor zealot but eventually becomes a spawn of chaos.

[@drunkencowboi7934]

As a person that watched the whole series while driving to a cabin in New Mexico. You summed it up alright, and gave it your usual bits to it. Good video bud, can’t wait for the next one

[@darthfenrir4892]

Don't think Krieg is copyrighted, unless GW wants to make money off by suing the German and Austrian military.... Nevermind, this is GW

[@noxflo897]

They cant copyright Astartes either.

[@timothywillox8564]

Just wait until the US Space Force incorporates Marines in some capacity

[@SKC-uc7rw]

Arch did a good job. It was nice to listen to whilst drawing bones :D

[@robdeskrd]

Why were you drawing bones?

[@snaplordmeep6748]

WE WILL TAKE ARCH’S SKULL FOR THE SKULL THRONE

[@TheCorrodedMan]

Arch will be his biggest challenge yet. The blood god and the Bridge god are both _very_ powerful, almost equal to one another

[@Echo_Mike]

Arch’s Vraxs series is amazing to listen to, it’s an audio book. Highly recommend. This video was honestly far more obnoxious

[@DarkApostleNoek]

I am always a fan of the showing the battle with maps and icons, I hope you do more battles with them.

[@dac314]

"Twice the charm" Wow, where did this humility come from?

[@theinquisitionsparrot6749]

I have actually been making a Renegades and Heretics army, along with a fanmade expansion. Should I make a Covent of Australia? Edit: imma do it!

[@seanreynolds7369]

On behalf of Australia, yes

[@commissarkruber7205]

Also on behalf of Australia yes

[@madmanvarietyshow9605]

Fuck yeah dude R&H is my personal white whale. I want to do one so bad. I have 10 renegade guard bodies, the know how to recast them, I just need the money and all the extra chaos bits. I wish GW would rerelease the chaos vehicle upgrade sprue so I could recast that too. They're bloody impossible to get ahold of intact nowadays.

[@nikolamilinovic1230]

Arch did great job. Take time and listen to it. It's very exciting.

[@jackcanox4015]

Ahhhh the siege of vraks..the best shitshow in the 40k lore...

[@ivanvoronov3871]

Arch's epic is worth it. His badab series is even better I think

[@Brad-yq3zm]

NOT A FAN OF ARCH BUT To his credit he did a great job of this and I would recommend it to any Kreig fan out there. I know Luton has/is covering It too, but Arch goes in to great detail on the back story of the death Korp then the build up to the fall of Vraks. This is the one time I would point anyone to his channel, so that’ll give you some idea of how good it is

[@argeltal9090]

I've watched many arch videos, and most of them are really good. Arch is a natural storyteller. I don't care about the controversies surrounding him, he is good entertainment.

[@krimzonstriker7534]

I prefer Oculus' take who is also currently doing Vraks as he goes over the overall logistics of the campaign as well while being considerably less condescending or controversial 😛

[@reefalefunk1244]

Love the video style. The animation was dope

[@Analog_Mind47]

Arch's series on Vraks was actually very entertaining. But you can skip 2 of the early episodes that cover the equipment, tactics, and general make up of each army. There's good fan art he commisioned for it too

[@IsaacClodfelter]

I would love to listen to 2 days of lore, I just don't think I could handle listening to Arch for that long.