The Slow Cancellation of Mark Fisher's Russell Brand

[@jamesanthony9316]

Mark Fisher's essay is still important but i don't think he would have enjoyed Russel Brand's turn to online wellness conspiracy guru. The tragedy is that the ship has sailed on class consciousness. Look at how the Working Class vote now, it isn't along class lines. The working class no longer have any pretentions to solidarity, they have been completely sold on the ideology of individualism.

[@Leamingtonbooks]

Any memorialising of any of the brilliant work of Mark Fisher is good by me - his work contained the future as he saw it and he was not wrong. Thanks this is great .

[@cellonpot]

“why would capital be concerned about a ‘left’ that replaces class politics with a moralising individualism, and that, far from building solidarity, spreads fear and insecurity?”

[@nick932200]

Division

[@mattgilbert7347]

@@nick932200 Without the joy

[@michaelfeeney1821]

Brilliant vlog mate needed to be said wishing you and yours all the best from Dublin Ireland mate

[@mikesmall8618]

Spot on about Mark Fisher's analysis but how do you square Brand's turn to the right in the last while and marry this with him being a great threat to the establishment? His views and presentation have changed dramatically?

[@aarpoonwaify6694]

Could you give examples of Russell Brand ‘turning right’? Like actual policies or ideas he’s promoted or supported to illustrate what you are claiming.

[@handofsutekh]

Antivax, pro-russia, misogynist, pro trump Why does none of that matter to you

[@aarpoonwaify6694]

@@handofsutekh How is questioning the origin of the virus (US bio lab funded by Fauci) and the efficacy of a vaccine (that doesn’t stop you getting the virus or spreading the virus, and made Pharma companies BILLIONS of dollars) right wing? How is questioning the causes of the Ukraine conflict (creeping American imperialism and 900+ military bases worldwide… Russia and China have 3 combined) right wing? Misogyny? That’s you just naming something bad in the hope it sticks… How is preferring the 4 years of no wars under Trump and freedom of speech (compared to 4 years of hundreds of thousands of innocent people being slaughtered and internet censorship under Biden) right wing? The truth is, YOU are the one who is pretending to be ‘left wing’ not Russell, you. Now off you go and vote for whatever neoliberal party it is that makes you feel good about yourself.

[@mikesmall8618]

Yeah sure. In 2023 he shifted his show, ‘Stay Free with Russell Brand’ to the right-wing platform, Rumble. If you look at Brand’s recent output, interviewing Robert F Kennedy Jnr, or Tucker Carlson, or Candace Owens or DeSantis or Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro the narrative is relentlessly from hard right-wing libertarians, Conservatives and reactionary forces. There is nothing subversive about any of this. Giving a platform to these people is not threatening to anyone. His 'turn to the right' has been well documented and observed in real time. While this is deeply reactionary it’s also highly lucrative. Brand’s income from You Tube went from $750,000 in 2019, £810,000 in 2020, £1 million 2021, $3 million in 2022 to $4 million in 2023. Arguments that Brand is working class, fighting for the wee man, or a maverick outsider will have to content with his mansion his eight real estate properties, and his investment portfolio. @@aarpoonwaify6694

[@lunaridge4510]

@@handofsutekh How Brand (right now, not decades back when he was stoned) a misogynist? He is a great father to his daughter and shows nothing but respect to his wife. Being pro-Russia is right-wing? This is simply an idiotic statement. I'd say being pro-NATO war on Russia and their sacrifice of Ukraine is a new Euro-fascism. Antivax? So the working people's objection to the most powerful corporate entity, the Big Pharma, force-drugging them (emphasis on *force here) is right-wing? All these things must matter to the real Left---which is not who Mark Fisher attacked. He attacked the turncoats, those who betrayed the Labour since the 70s. Those who had overdosed on Trotsky and went on to serve the Capital.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Right on, mate. No war but class war. "For me it's real"

[@arthurmckeown1937]

Great to see this essay getting more traction and a really enlightening (for me) analysis. The Brand we saw on Newsnight torturing Paxman is a distance removed from the show pony he became online though. All his wellness pish and covid tedium. Notwithstanding the accusations from the women on the telly. Regardless of all that, Mark Fisher is a massive loss.

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'The Slow Cancellation Of Mark Fisher's Russell Brand'

[@handofsutekh]

Of course the guardian reading elites are bad faith wankers, but I feel this video goes beyond simply drawing attention to this fact and strays into playing down his crimes and adds to the chorus which casts doubt on the sincerity of the emerging culture of accountability towards sexual predators in the workplace.

[@pillowstone]

"Cancel culture exists to cancel class" 🙌 fukin right!!

[@soconfused8031]

Hi yeah Brand isn't working class and he's also a pervert and a rapist.

[@bumfie]

Yes very good and well articulated Great use of A.I. in this production

[@ash00sufc]

A shame you failed to acknowledge Brand's dramatic shift to grifting a largely right-wing, American, Trumpian audience in which his insightful class-conscious analysis has fallen by the wayside for the sake of a pound note.

[@foleyhuck2344]

Brand became the vampire described at 8:10ish.

[@MrHeythere555]

Wheesht idiot.

[@aarpoonwaify6694]

It’s funny that you don’t seem to understand that Trump supporters are working class…

[@onthewattle]

yeah and they possess no insightful class-conscious analysis and they actively work against their own class. It's funny how you don't understand that ay @@aarpoonwaify6694

[@lunaridge4510]

@@aarpoonwaify6694 No, he doesn't understand that, nor does he care about the working class, he's a brainwashed "leftie" consumed by his class angst.

[@scottgalloway1819]

Great video, with one minor point of disagreement: Narcissism and cult mentalities are two sides of the same coin, and it is ignorant to say that Christianity "invented" cult systems. This bahaviour has been around since the dawn of time. The gospels describe this mentality as pervading through the Jewish religion at the time of Christ (before Christianity existed), epitomised by the hypocritical religious leaders and the Pharisees. The teachings of Jesus are actually the exact opposite of (and the antidote to) Narcissism, but bad faith actors can enter any organisation of people in order to manipulate, control, and dominate others for their own agendas and power trips. Which is definitely what has happened throughout church history, especially with Roman Catholicism. But genuine Christianity would renounce this behaviour as anathema and anti-Christ - the New Testament contains many warnings against behaviour like this.

[@soconfused8031]

Brand does have a cult around him and is obviously a narcissist

[@scottgalloway1819]

@@soconfused8031 Irrelevant to my comment but thanks for your thoughts.

[@soconfused8031]

@@scottgalloway1819 How is my comment about Brand having a cult and being a narcissist not relevant to your comment about cults and narcissists?

[@scottgalloway1819]

@@soconfused8031 My comment was purely an objection to the idea that cult systems came from or were refined by Christianity.

[@soconfused8031]

@@scottgalloway1819 Well, as long as you're not pandering to delusions that Brand is somehow being persecuted

[@RusticRaver]

Other possibility is simply that Russell Brand is an idiot, I personnally can't stand him, but I'm sure teenagers do, I would not overthink about it.

[@pillowstone]

Really sorting the wheat from the chaff there eh 👍

[@soconfused8031]

@@pillowstone what does this mean?

[@RusticRaver]

Lol, well the dude spent last 5 years mansplaining/ grooming teenagers on his youtube channel instead of speaking to adults about dangers of capitalism (I dont disagree with his message), then supposedly some kind of underground pussy riot group ordered by the left wing decided to gang stalk him through metoo on orders of some evil journalists because they have not been the chosen ones, I really think it's far fetched conspiratie theory that only comes from youtube need for buzz . my 2 cent opinion at least. This guy could be a threat to illuminati bollox come on. @@pillowstone

[@aarpoonwaify6694]

@@soconfused8031dude, I don’t know if you are a comic genius or what, but that’s like a Chic Murray joke… 😂

[@lunaridge4510]

@RusticRaver I am no teenager, not even my children are. If you personally can't stand him, is this the reason you are labelling him an idiot? Projection? One has to have a problem with identifying intelligence if one cannot clearly see that Brand is exceptionally intelligent. An independent thinker, an orator (such a rarity these days), self-taught intellectual. Why not admit you just can not stand him because you are a petit bourgeoisie and, in fact, just cannot stand the *subjects of his videos. Then we can think about why the latter is so. Class resentment?

[@sinclair_research_ltd]

Good stuff Bob

[@davidmiller1550]

Thank you all for this ...

[@soconfused8031]

For what? Weirdly jumping to defend a pervert?

[@buddy7023]

@@soconfused8031if you think the sole purpose of this video is to defend a pervert you didn’t understand anything he said.

[@soconfused8031]

@@buddy7023 Ok dude, is Brand a pervert?

[@buddy7023]

@@soconfused8031 I’m pretty sure that he has done things in the past that would make him a pervert. but as long as he hasn’t forced anyone into doing these things he isn’t guilty. I don’t follow him. I’m just saying that his actions don’t have any impact on Fisher’s theories.

[@soconfused8031]

@@buddy7023 Which one is it dude, is he a pervert or isn't he? And you're right, his actions don't have any impact on anyone's theories, which is why nobody should be trying to defend him for some vague notions of defending anti-capitalist ideology. Anti-capitalism will survive with or without the pervert rapist Brand, so let's eschew ourselves of the baggage of his actions and move on without him

[@trancematt]

Excellent

[@garethlee2473]

This video is exactly how you would expect conspiracy theorists to respond when one of their gurus turns out to be a rapist.

[@juliamountain1846]

Sorry to be pedantic, but I can't see that he has been charged with let alone convicted of rape. Currently very serious allegations have been made which are therefore being investigated by the police.

[@garethlee2473]

@@juliamountain1846 The evidence in the Dispatches documentary was extremely strong. There were 3 witnesses to one of the allegations, who said they were too scared for their careers to speak out at the time because of Brand’s celebrity status, and another victim was recorded to have visited a rape crisis centre saying she had raped by a celebrity and then received a tweet from Brand the next day apologising and implicitly acknowledging the rape.

[@garethlee2473]

@@juliamountain1846 I’m not entirely sure what your point is. Obviously, he shouldn’t be sent to prison until he’s convicted, but people are not going to completely ignore the compelling evidence against him, and saying that it’s a conspiracy if people don’t ignore the evidence is absurd.

[@juliamountain1846]

@@garethlee2473 I'm from a country where people are officially convicted in court, not on TV. My point is about legal procedure.

[@soconfused8031]

@@juliamountain1846 Here's the thing: the video didn't even attempt to claim the allegations were false, WHICH MEANS that the person in the video is defending a man who he believes to be a rapist. So, yeah

[@timesplitter8443]

Excellent analysis and encapsulation of Mark Fisher's ideas. More people need to see this video.

[@soconfused8031]

What ideas? That you can't call a rapist a rapist? That it doesn't matter if someone is a rapist, as long as they pay lip service to some vague "anti-capitalism"?

[@timesplitter8443]

@@soconfused8031 As opposed to your totally legit and serious "anti-capitalism" based entirely on the constant promotion of capitalism from behind a pseudo-left facade. If you want to cancel someone for being a rapist, maybe you should get your priorities straight and take aim at the likes of Bill Clinton instead. 26 trips on the Lolita Express is far more damning evidence than the supposedly infallible testimony of a small handful of groupies conveniently "coming forward with their stories" 15 years after the fact. Funnily enough the media has all but ignored the former while focusing on the latter, and so do people like you. Hypocrite.

[@hughreed621]

Great as always Bob 👍

[@garethlee2473]

It was dishonest rubbish. Dispatches and Channel 4 did a lot more than just find 3 women who made allegations against Brand. They also found near irrefutable evidence to back up the women’s claims. Bob’s conspiracy theory made no sense. Why would anyone think exposing Brand’s crimes would stop people believing in the moronic conspiracy theories Brand talks about on his shows when there are far bigger podcasters than Brand pedalling this nonsense.

[@simonkipper2657]

Brilliant work.Quality St, made for sharing!!

[@mysticchords]

Wish you were somebody who had more exposure with intelligent overviews such as this into a social dynamic which is incredibly insidious and difficult for most folk to grasp. It's been difficult to watch the social conscience of good hearted friends manipulated through the past few years especially, with the CV19 psyop.

[@soconfused8031]

Was gonna say how you can think defending a pervert/rapist is "intelligent", then realised that you're probably just operating on single-digit IQ with the covid comment.

[@BBOYMONI]

👊👏👏👏👏👏

[@greg4629]

why the neil oliver impression

[@superducker7899]

aah youtube comments never disappoint

[@tommac8556]

You film this beside David Hume's grave. As an empiricist of some note he may (note supposition) have taken the hump (note vernacular) with the lack of scientific rigour.

[@YOUCANTDOTHATONROBITUSSI-sl6em]

It’s wild glossing over Brand’s rightward shift and abandonment of substantive class politics in favor of conspiracy and culture war. Is there a follow up planned?