The Smiths - Interview

[@sonny5082]

"good ole mozart hip guy" haha

[@danielg.s.8811]

fuck yeahh

[@victorymansions]

I was cracking up

[@nicholassaunders8227]

"it doesn't make life worse" hahahaha most honest man in music

[@catinthehat906]

Makes me laugh now that criticising a few unnamed teachers in Manchester in a pop song was seen as controversial, a perfect riposte from Morrissey.

[@Desatkinson]

this interviewer was constantly trying to start shit i'm dying

[@andyp.4564]

Aquarius of Color sskskskdkksks tea

[@mijadreams3486]

HE HELLA WAS LMFAOOO

[@dvxthwish3350]

thats tony Wilson

[@whispersinvenice]

Mike Joyce wasn't taking that shit.

[@nonce9315]

"Oh ye Mozart hip guy" had and still has me in stitches

[@richalderson6069]

I'd hate to get into an argument with Morrissey, I know he'd just SLAY me.

[@Warren_The_Warrinator257]

Mike and Andy were so precious. Shame they never got the spotlight they deserved compared to Moz and Johnny.

[@stephenr80]

Oh they GOT it from true fans believe me

[@ashleybuck6508]

@@stephenr80absolutely 👍🏻

[@oliviafagin293]

"And what do I see? This charming man!" XD

[@ivandesantis858]

Johnny Marr could play anything and he was like 22 in this interview. The pairing of two singular talents like him and Morrissey just an amazing collaboration.

[@rherrick123]

This interviewer, Tony Wilson (founder of Factory Records, for the musically uneducated among you), once said about Morrissey that he was a "woman in a man's body". Morrissey responded that Tony Wilson was a "pig in a man's body", and when asked to explain his comment, refined it as a "man in a pig's body". They didn't really get on.

[@jordanelder321]

Tony Wilson is a better man than he will ever be

[@adamstanheightkinnie]

11 years ago omg

[@jordanelder321]

@Ferris Bueller oh check you out. No need for some dickhead like you to know

[@jordanelder321]

@Ferris Bueller I take it your not very used to people being honest with you. What a shame it must be to you

[@jordanelder321]

@Ferris Bueller courageously honest about my love for anime mate.

[@deniselujan1379]

Johnny Marr is awesome! The guy has incredible talent, I don't think the Smiths would have been as famous without him and vice versa with Morrissey.

[@robseddon629]

I agree, without Morrissey and Marr I don't think the smiths would have been famous.

[@pg6917]

I think that without morrisey probably they would still be famous, with moz lyrics or not the music is still pretty good

[@Archiv3sofpa1n]

@@pg6917 yeah but as a team they made it great. The thing I love most about the smiths is how perfectly the lyrics and music compliment each other and the chemistry they had as artists. Everything about it just works in the most perfect way

[@jamesdavies5266]

Good observation ..seen as he wrote all the music!

[@brandon2912t]

Agreed! They were like a soulmate combination and I loved everything about The Smiths growing up!

[@lilyrockel8590]

"No not really I think he deserves the attention he gets"

[@oscarwilde9581]

S H A D E

[@exomoonextremophile]

The bit with Andy and Mike is weirdly ironic in hindsight when you consider the lawsuit that would later come.

[@ignaciocabero2318]

What happened?

[@enterbalak]

+Ignacio Cabero they got 5 million out of the contract I'm sure, could Morry to court and everything.

[@bandit217]

@Lee Davenport Lolol this is two comment threads I've seen you in now... why are you so upset??

[@hashteraksgage3281]

@larkjd noting? They were half of the band

[@danielg.s.8811]

@larkjd just like you

[@grace22812]

Andy and Mike are ridiculously adorable.

[@ewie9347]

and so's Johnny ❤️

[@marianhalcombe3305]

This thread suddenly seems like a pointed missile aimed directly, yet passively, at Morrissey...

[@ukelicious123]

Morrissey too

[@ludaheracles7201]

Losers

[@neptunesdemise]

i love andy sm

[@sophiaanderson3881]

mike's voice is so beautiful idk

[@moraseena]

Sophia Anderson yeah man I thought exactly the same

[@kenyahirationsound2156]

I am totally agree

[@innatebubble121]

Mike’s voice is amazing

[@johnnys-left-earring]

he's so lovely

[@sweet_kind29]

1:57 - You hear one strum and immediately know it's Heaven Knows I'm Miserable

[@Yunglizard2777]

Andy is an AMAZING bassist jfc he's so underrated

[@heboy3767]

Must he rest in peace

[@prudenceneverpays]

sigh

[@granthambeard]

Love this, but the bit where Johnny says "I play it a bit more aggressively" and then proceeds to play something quite lovely has me giggling ;)

[@ValottaLaureano]

Reel around the fountain ftw

[@cinqo7]

He mentions someone called Gordon Mosey or something like that ? Do you know who he is?

[@stephenr80]

​@@ValottaLaureanomy favorite

[@niall946]

Mike Joyce, "Our time will come". And it did... with a lawsuit.

[@homeone4054]

Just thinking the same Niall..!

[@sexobscura]

*fair dues:* would've been *very* difficult to get what we hear without the rhythm section

[@ericsilberstein667]

@@sexobscuraOne of the best (Rourke and Joyce).

[@johnbobbitybingbangboom5369]

Morrissey is the fucking king of the comebacks! Very intelligent man.

[@InstallaFriend]

“It’s doesn’t make life worse [being famous]. It’s very interesting; you should try it one day.” To Tony fucking Wilson

[@MrPge1970]

I remember buying this LP in early 1985. The Headmaster Ritual was a song that resonated with me because of the behaviour of the Christian Brothers in my school & in Ireland in the mid 80s. Thank you Morrissey. i love you.

[@kenyahirationsound2156]

It's rare to find an interview with Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce during The Smiths era. Rourke, a great bassist, seems to be shy to answer.Joyce, soulful Joyce Is a great drummer and(Oh such a beautiful voice 😍😙) I think they're really handsome. They needed to appear in more interviews, they are the Sound from The Smiths too.

[@ludaheracles7201]

Oh you fake, superficial women

[@honeyhitchins7805]

Morrissey trash-talking the Manchester education committee 😍

[@smaxit]

It's endearing when Marr comments on Mozart being, "a hip guy".

[@NSAHAI1]

morrissey has the most amazing voice

[@WolfBoy723]

Ive been listenin to The Smiths since i was a toddler, my pops sorta forced it on to me, but im glad that he did so now i know about this beautiful music and the talent who created it

[@daviddelaney6757]

Special times back then. Not just the great music the Smiths produced but also how easy it was for people to speak their minds and give an opinion - hard not to miss the 80's.

[@ChicagoRic360]

I'd love to see more of the interview with Marr. It's amazing how much musical talent he has and the way he weaves his myriad influences into a distinctive sound that respects the tradition on which it's based.

[@KINGMONKEY1989]

One of the greatest live bands ever. Every one of them is a bonafide legend.

[@FredericaBimble]

LOL.. The journalist was trying to bring Morrissey down. 'maybe it's Johnny Marr's guitar'. Hilarious.

[@AnonymousCaveman]

"Good old Mozart, great guy"

[@AnonymousCaveman]

+Jonas Gammelgaard Stæhr still funny through

[@simulationorange]

Johnny Marr is so beautiful wow

[@wallacelovecraft8942]

The 2 members are so nice talking about Morris.

[@tristanblancq]

Johnny Marr and Andy Rourke are the greatest bass/guitar pairing ever Right alongside Ste Fitzpatrick & Audun Laading of Her's

[@mollieephobia]

10/10

[@squashua_]

“It doesn’t make life worse, you should try it one day”. Burn.

[@zachfakename3747]

Tony Wilson was probably holding back his rage during the interview from not signing The Smiths to Factory Records

[@simplelife88393]

"Good old Mozart, hip guy"

[@youforget1000thingsaday]

Andy Rourke was so fine. Man.

[@katemely12]

First time I hear Johnny marr speak

[@NKRevolution]

U should hear a song from his solo album he sings pretty good too.

[@ToWnHeAdAARON123]

mehhh

[@jimmima121]

'That interviewer' is Tony Wilson. He was one of the most important figures in British music over the last 50 years.

[@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262]

uh-huh. has he ever composed a single note of music?

[@gauche5800]

I honestly think it was a little rude that the interviewer was pressing Mike Joyce and Andy to say if they were jealous. I mean, to even ask someone if they're jealous is vindictive.

[@GriefTourist]

Back then you could ask questions without being suspected of spitefulness. Nowadays everyone assumes an agenda.

[@Boxscot49]

“The answer is I don’t know.” Love that response

[@clewbe]

johnny marr is too cool

[@nathanharris7815]

I love early interviews❤

[@emilyheartspatd]

Johnny at 3:01 "good ol Mozart, hip guy" lolz

[@calumpat9]

Tony Wilson was a great man. RIP

[@r007-s7n]

Morrissey is brilliant

[@transonicbuoy1]

Yes, Mis Lie - amazing how, before the corporates took it, and a lot of people listened, the blokes behind it, totally natural.

[@spartan876]

goold ol' motzart,, *HIP* guy!

[@PiratesAndCowboys]

Why does the interviewer call him Stephen he doesnt even go by Stephen lol

[@hamblok0]

Because Tony Wilson knew Morrissey way before The Smiths were even a thing.

[@revbattfink6301]

I don't know why but I fucking love Mike's voice.

[@johnnys-left-earring]

saaaaame

[@saintjimmy456]

You can tell there is a bit of dislike from Wilson here, a lot of the questions have an underlying negativity. "Does he deserve all the attention he gets?" To Joyce and Rourke about Morrissey. "I knew him when he was called Steven" then proceeds to call him Steven throughout the interview even though he himself acknowledged he only goes by Morrissey now. "What gives you the right..." to comment on schools and teaching: as if permission is needed for lyircal content.

[@skyworm8006]

nah it's just standard critical interviewing of the time. a pretence of balance, sometimes actual balance, but at least there was a pretence that gave us the whole picture and acknowledgement of what has happened unlike now where it's all simple and onesided and fake. i would say in this case it's even just going through the motions to set them up for assuaging fears and improving his image. also actors and musicians all comment on social and political stuff now but none express anything that isn't approved and prepared for them. so morrissey's sentiment falls flat, i think even in his time. just another avenue for propaganda and social engineering. i wasn't alive then but that's what i've noticed from watching the media from that time.

[@stephenr80]

He was TROLLING hard

[@ashleyohohoh]

I love when Morrissey is annoyed ❤️

[@blueskiedanclear-1]

Mike and Andy are both gonna be the reason i turn sus.

[@prudenceneverpays]

are u sus yet

[@Ghoulies]

I'm glad Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce seem to be appreciated and folks know what a big part they played in The Smiths sound, writing, look, and stage presence. When folks start saying Johnny wrote all the basslines etc, I wonder if they're just repeating what another misinformed person said. (Johnny made the drum beats/patterns too?) Sure, he most probably showed him the basic chord/note patterns, but I as a musician, can tell that writing and obviously playing style is his, naturally. The Smiths is all 4 of them. Craig Gannon had a good look and could play, but seemed kind of awkward and upset the natural balance. He seems like a good guy though. Not knocking him. I guess because the 2 guys from the rhythm section haven't done mountains of work since The Smiths, they get scrutinised and regarded less by some. Thank you for the music anyhow

[@joelees836]

Hip guy

[@stevenuuu1212]

Morrissey had the last laugh there.

[@wallflowerkeely]

Love johnny marr so much

[@pippipster6767]

Maximum respect to drum and bass in da smiths init bro

[@weemoxy2]

johnny was on summat there

[@ryanblythe4035]

why can't Tony just be happy he signed Joy division and leave Morrissey alone

[@gemimaobrien]

Got the feeling Mike really meant what he said there with “our day will come.”

[@thewordisours8105]

this interviewer might have been the one who single handedly put the hate between the members that ended the band in motion

[@gonzaloreyes8782]

Manchester the land of the amazing bands

[@refforendum]

i love how that guy was trying to piss off morrissey but he just kept answering so cooly. that interveiwer made himself look like an ass

[@BWFCUCL15]

Morrissey's riposte to Tony Wilson is fantastic- perhaps Tony Wilson is playing the devils advocate, but when he states 'what right does being a pop star give you to..." it sounds like he's being ultra conservative. The whole freedom of speech and public authorities being held accountable obviously weren't as prominent back then as they rightfully are today.

[@FredericaBimble]

That's 'The Hand That Rocks the Cradle' (slight variation) and I'm sure you can find the tabs somewhere online.

[@ilonak.6252]

i love his accent!

[@thegirlfrommars4386]

Andy looks so cute here 🥰🥰

[@tjalfejon]

god I love Marr...

[@ashleyohohoh]

Johnny Marr looks like he's related to me, its so strange. He looks just like my 22 year old cousin, identical.

[@kdwright06]

Thank you

[@karensvetlanaenriquezfletc71]

johnny's voice is just so beautiful, cute and sexy 😏😍

[@MsMelissa303]

He's one of the hottest 80s musicians in my opinion 😍

[@Hir0-Protagonist]

Not even a full minute into the interview and Tony Wilson was already stirring the pot. LOL

[@honeyhitchins7805]

I love him

[@Rowan-j3e]

Interesting, great video

[@thebjm1967]

LOL. oh my gosh. i would love to go back in time for sure.

[@adriansvarela]

The perfect interview

[@L0zzle]

2:47 - nowhere fast 🖤

[@ericsilberstein667]

Morrissey, Marr, Rourke, and Joyce were great together. The Smiths were a great alt band.

[@marniewillow]

my gosh mike joyce is so beautiful

[@DreamClean]

2:46 Nowhere Fast

[@treid100182]

Morrissey, A sad thing: watching this video and realizing you have watched it before, almost ten years ago. etc.

[@JessWWECena1]

oh johnny.

[@phantomlord6661]

So how about Andy rourke in this interview hahaha

[@beetlejuice7184]

I Love!

[@vilepete]

You're right stressing Morrissey's brilliance...

[@ChicagoRic360]

There's another riff that Marr borrows from an old Elvis Presley tune, (Marie's the Name) His Latest Flame. The name of the Smiths' song eludes me now, but I think it's on MiM.

[@ILoveMorrisseyy]

Rusholme Ruffians, the live version is quite lovely.

[@judeforrester6641]

If someone has the right to vote they have the right to voice their opinions

[@Linathehuman]

The interviewer seems to REALLY dislike Morrissey. Does anyone know why?

[@CarlosBacardi]

hairdresseronfire because he knocked back his label Factory Records for Rough Trade.

[@xfactorcritic]

The interviewer was Anthony Wilson and he was a legendary manager. He helped to make Joy Division icons

[@nineteenfortyeight]

"There have been accusations, particularly from me, ... "

[@Wallij15]

Everybody has a right to comment on political things...it's expressing his opinion. And why should anyone shut him up?

[@BritishInvasion91]

Morrissey is influential to me. So is Johnny Marr.

[@iisadorxx]

same

[@clara.inthesahara]

mikee😻😻

[@infancysguard]

Wilson never made them an offer to refuse. Rob Gretton, upon hearing their demo, wasn't impressed. I think his opinion was the final say. @reopoker89: Wilson said once in an interview (maybe about 14 or 15 years ago) that he didn't regret not signing The Smiths because he didn't think he could have worked with Morrissey.

[@luislizard2626]

That’s Andy just before he went to be the vampire leader of: the lost boys

[@UkVIP100]

Lol... interviewer got blown out on that second to last question !!!

[@lisaaddas5282]

who was this nobody?lucky to be interviewing STEVEN!!!!!

[@CarlosBacardi]

Lisa Addas it was Tony Wilson, owner of Factory Records, and played by Steve Coogan in the film '24 Hour Party People'. He's just miffed that they knocked back his label for Rough Trade Records.

[@Renegademaster15]

@LegendaryWeiner No Joy Division were over by the time of this video and Happy Mondays weren't around yet, he didn't want them, he just didn't think anything of them, but then realised when there was a huge hype over them that he had made the wrong decision