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Modern Vintage Gamer

Жыл бұрын

The SNK Neo Geo AES released in 1990 and for the first time , brought the exact arcade experience to the home. In this episode we take a closer look at the Neo Geo and why it was so far advanced that its competition at the time.
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@baroncalamityplus
@baroncalamityplus Жыл бұрын
Back in the early 90s I stopped at a yard sale. A woman was selling her husband's stuff because he cheated on her. I ended up getting a Neo Geo AES and a couple of games all for $50. I almost feel guilty. Almost. I would never been able to afford one otherwise.
@tyguy3876
@tyguy3876 Жыл бұрын
Just thank the homewrecker instead 😂
@juansalas2882
@juansalas2882 Жыл бұрын
OK
@ShadowEl
@ShadowEl Жыл бұрын
@@tyguy3876 so, the husband?
@prcr364
@prcr364 Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowEl Yeah, screw him.
@utewbd
@utewbd Жыл бұрын
​@@ShadowEl You're SO virtuous and progressive, reminding everyone it was the HUSBAND who was the homewrecker. Not that everyone just read that comment seconds before yours, it was NECESSARY for you to make that comment. So many people were going to be TRICKED by the PATRIARCHY that homewrecker and woman are always synonymous. But thank god you stepped in and saved us all from male oppression.
@favians.4823
@favians.4823 Жыл бұрын
the nickname of this machine says all : Neo Geo is the Rolls-Royce of the consoles
@darkowl9
@darkowl9 Жыл бұрын
The more you learn about how older sprite and tile-based systems worked, the more interesting videos like this become. Thanks for the deep dive, I learned a lot!
@thewingedavenger1007
@thewingedavenger1007 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Neo Geo becomes far more fascinating when you learn how to manage its MK-33 electroplasma system with broad-spectrum electron dampers and sub-emissive particles.
@nirv
@nirv Жыл бұрын
How did you learn anything when everything the guy said in this video is wrong?
@hsjoberg
@hsjoberg Жыл бұрын
@@nirv so what was wrong?
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
Sprites and sprites made of tiles and background made of sprites ( Amiga ) were an old technique at that time. I would love to see some innovation. Like when you had to code on 68000 you always fight the lame branch instructions ( on many CPUs you do that ). I would have been great if the SNK would have written a software implementation of a quad-tree for everything all the way down to the pixel level. The background could be single sprite, but the hardware quickly dives down into the correct nodes. Totally transparent nodes are not even stored in ROM. A lot of sprites seem not to really use all the colors so maybe even nodes could get their color space restricted to save some more bits. Render front to back with a coverage tree ( portal rendering ). Then the GPU only needs to fetch visible pixels from the cartridge, which in turn could use cheap slow ROM. So after proof of principle, implement this as hardware circuit where a branch is just a gate. I mean, at least for transparency the hardware needs to branch for every pixel anyway. The quadtree may give two times the overhead. So you have twice the cost for the cabinet ( not really ), but the game only cost half to manufacture. You could have much more background layers. With super scaler hardware ( Sega, Atari Lynx ) that would even be more useful because often there the scenery objects stack on top of each other. You could have a scenery where the floor does not shine through without speed penalty. Trees are difficult to write into randomly, but you cannot write to ROM anyway. The Art department suffers one minute while their new pictures is compressed into the devkit. I think, that would be okay. I would even want octa-trees for animations. So the compressor could find similarities in consecutive frames.
@mykr0324
@mykr0324 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing system. This and the Dreamcast were something else, just the feeling of having a full blown arcade system in the home was incredible.
@playerone2629
@playerone2629 Жыл бұрын
I still have my dreamcast
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue Жыл бұрын
My parents bought me a Japanese Dreamcast from NCSX in 1998 for Christmas, by far the best Xmas gift I'd ever gotten. Eventually I'm gonna buy all new controllers and VMUs and maybe one of those Behar Brothers VGA boxes for the ultimate setup
@mykr0324
@mykr0324 Жыл бұрын
@@joesaiditstrue yeah man, that's awesome. I had everything, so sad that I don't have it anymore. Had multiple lightguns, fishing controller, bunch or vmus, keyboard and mouse for phantasy Star online, also had a boot disc and a whole cd case full of burnt games on top of my regular ones. One of my mates had my DC for a bit while I was moving years ago, then I lost touch with them and never got it back.
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 Жыл бұрын
I still have and play my Dreamcast!
@blokin5039
@blokin5039 Жыл бұрын
@@mykr0324 Call him.
@arandommanthatexists
@arandommanthatexists Жыл бұрын
more MVG content to make my day just a little better.
@AbominusRules
@AbominusRules Жыл бұрын
one of the biggest draws to me was the fact that you could save on a memory card and go back and forth from the arcade to the console. just absolutely amazing for that time period. i have so many great memories with both the arcade and console. i wish i knew what happened to my console version. itd be great to pull out and play today.
@fukuoka-musician
@fukuoka-musician Жыл бұрын
You're not the one who cheated on his wife, are you? :D
@AbominusRules
@AbominusRules Жыл бұрын
@@fukuoka-musician huh?
@funstuffonthenet5573
@funstuffonthenet5573 Жыл бұрын
I really wanted to find a F-zero AX machine to do this. I was only able to play it on GameCube. Neo Geo was the first to do this though, it seems
@AbominusRules
@AbominusRules Жыл бұрын
@@funstuffonthenet5573 it sure was! and it was fabulous!! :)
@orbita1
@orbita1 Жыл бұрын
@@fukuoka-musician that's quite funny
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 Жыл бұрын
as a former arcade cabinet operator i still have a lot of mvs stuff laying around, the good days
@NX6.2
@NX6.2 Жыл бұрын
He's a smooth opetator.
@Neb_Raska
@Neb_Raska Жыл бұрын
How old are you now?
@consciouscool
@consciouscool Жыл бұрын
Are you selling?
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 Жыл бұрын
@@Neb_Raska 39
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 Жыл бұрын
@@consciouscool not yet
@jamesaitchison9478
@jamesaitchison9478 Жыл бұрын
I used to dream of playing Neo Geo games back in the early 90's looking at the pics in Video Game magazines like Mean Machines and CVG. I only ever knew one person that owned one back then as they were very expensive and very exclusive. Neo Geo's are still a dream machine today, a proper Arcade machine for the home, how cool is that. Awesome video bro.
@Kaido_928
@Kaido_928 Жыл бұрын
CVG was so good to read. Job's Mailbag remember that one
@billybobs1705
@billybobs1705 Жыл бұрын
it wasnt ahead of its time...its just a bullshit internet cliche
@sligit
@sligit Жыл бұрын
As a home system it absolutely was.
@ProctorSilex
@ProctorSilex Жыл бұрын
I think two kids claimed to "own" a NeoGeo. For one, it was probably just the cabinet at his parents' pizza shop. The other's parents were loaded so he likely wasn't lying or bending reality. As much as I drooled over the NeoGeo, I was not jealous because the SNES was and is the pinnacle of gaming for me.
@paulsteel9127
@paulsteel9127 Жыл бұрын
@@ProctorSilex The SNES was OK if you liked butchered arcade ports and Mario. But the AES was the real deal. It's games were several years ahead of anything Nintendo put out at the time.
@nothingburger1
@nothingburger1 Жыл бұрын
I grew up playing the art of fighting on a neogeo arcade machine, because my dad cleaned the rec centre that had a machine there, he had the machine keys, so he'd hook me up with 84 or so credits and let me go all day while he cleaned the place. It was way better than anything else you could play at the time.
@IwatchTubiTrash
@IwatchTubiTrash Жыл бұрын
I used to collect for Neo Geo but stopped when I realized the money pit I was getting into with a collector's mentality. I recently looked at some of the prices of games I used to own in AES format and knew I made the right choice to get out. I still love the system, company and its games though--Samurai Shodown II being one of my all-time favorite.
@ProdDeity
@ProdDeity Жыл бұрын
SamSho2 is my favorite of the series for sure.
@nemesisnine3297
@nemesisnine3297 Жыл бұрын
Funny, all I did was download a emulator pack and had all neogeo games
@altdelete7252
@altdelete7252 Жыл бұрын
The problem with collecting is that the only time you can gain any value is if you have it on the lower end. Since these started expensive, it was hard to start collecting to begin with. Then, there is really only so much the stuff can possibly be worth before you are never going to get what you paid.
@StonerJames
@StonerJames Жыл бұрын
Seeing this takes me back. I never had a Neo Geo only a SNES. I did have a friend that had one though. His family wasn't rich but we'll off. Better than my family. But he was an only child where as I had one brother and three sisters. But I would say he was spoiled because not only did he have the Neo Geo and like every game for it, but he also had a SNES, Genesis, and an Apple IIe computer and a shit ton of games for all of them. He didn't have to share the TV with anyone since he also had his own TV in his room with all his consoles and computer so he was able to play when he wanted and as much as he wanted. Unlike me. There was only one TV in my house and with for siblings, there was always fighting over the TV that my parents ended up setting up when who can use the TV when. So you can bet I basically lived over at my friends house since he lived two houses down from me and since we went to the same school and were in the same homeroom, there were numerous occasions when I spent the night at his house on school nights sitting up to the small hours of the night playing video games. Those were the days. If I could only turn back time...
@Dark.Shingo
@Dark.Shingo Жыл бұрын
NeoGeo soundtracks were amazing. It was one of the few that always released an Original version and an Arranged version, due to using the arrange one in their NegoGeo CD releases, and it always was top notch. The NeoGeo Sound Team is legendary, all the music they put out was amazing and such a blend of rhythms and sounds, plus the hardware was fantastic for music.
@kevtn8
@kevtn8 6 ай бұрын
Audio quality is always related to memory size and Neo Geo had crazy memory sized games. They had memory to spare thus sound was always of highest quality.
@fabiosemino2214
@fabiosemino2214 Жыл бұрын
In rural northern Italy in the 90' the more sophisticated cabinets could be pretty rare, but in almost any Bar you could find a MVS machine loaded with aero fighters 2, world heroes, fatal Fury, Neo Drift Out or Puzzle Bobble, I can say that some arcades got an extension of life into the early 2000's by putting Metal Slug 2, X and 3 on their biggest cabs.
@badreality2
@badreality2 Жыл бұрын
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@frafrafrafrafra
@frafrafrafrafra Жыл бұрын
Spettacolare, io sto in Calabria e ci sta qualche bar che ancora le ha
@francescobarrali637
@francescobarrali637 Жыл бұрын
I can confirm that, same thing in southern Italy as well. Neo Turf masters, puzzle bubble, Metal slug X and even Magician Lord!
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 Жыл бұрын
@@francescobarrali637 Like them say in LA, don't steal my time, steal with style and do the crime, not the time.
@solidsnake3828
@solidsnake3828 Жыл бұрын
Same in Serbia, also Super Pang was very popular arcade game.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 Жыл бұрын
My sole exposure to neo-geo was a cab in the lobby of our local wal-mart that had “Zed Blade”, and “World Heroes 2 Jet” (it was cranked fairly loud and I remember always hearing “WORLD HEROES 2…….JEEET!” while entering or leaving, lol) when I was a kid. That was until I discovered NeoRAGEX in high school. I remember downloading neo geo roms took all night over dial up.
@jcollins1305
@jcollins1305 5 ай бұрын
I was 13 or 14 when the NEO-GEO came out. I remember it being insanely expensive, but you were literally playing arcade games in your home. An interesting footnote to the history of gaming.
@robertdanielpickard
@robertdanielpickard Жыл бұрын
I think it was SmokeMonster who pointed out Mister had great NeoGeo support pretty early because of the active NG collecting community. Basically there was a lot of documentation of NeoGeo chips because the collectors wanted to stop cannibalizing dwindling supplies of original equipment. So they started reversing and ultimately fabricating the parts of the NG that weren't off the shelf. I think it's a neat story about the contribution of collectors
@_____7704
@_____7704 Жыл бұрын
I can remember playing one of these at my mates house and it was insane... feels ALOT like an arcade
@leeartlee915
@leeartlee915 Жыл бұрын
Love to know the story behind that friends situation. Everyone who was into gaming knew about the Neo Geo but NO one had it. I even had some pretty well off friends and what they would have is a serious computer back in the early 90s. But with Neo Geo, even if you bought the system for 600 bucks, the games were just too expensive to get any kind of collection going. You would have to have parents who were both a) rich and b) spoiling there child rotten.
@TheT0nedude
@TheT0nedude Жыл бұрын
It IS an arcade machine, literally.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 Жыл бұрын
@@TheT0nedude this, lol, contains the literal same hardware.
@_____7704
@_____7704 Жыл бұрын
@@leeartlee915 Was about 15 years ago, I am in my mid thirties. This wasn't a childhood thing. My mate worked at a Cash Converters and picked it up after someone came in and hocked it. He also had an Atari Jaguar CD which is equally ridiculous. I bought a Commodore Amiga CD32 and a Satellaview off him which I still have today.
@leeartlee915
@leeartlee915 Жыл бұрын
@@_____7704 Ahhhhh, see now that I can see (we are around the same age). I still have never played an actual AES. I’ve always lusted after those joysticks.
@TravisStamper
@TravisStamper Жыл бұрын
I never owned one either but always thought they were awesome. Thanks for the video
@adonian
@adonian Жыл бұрын
You can get a lot of neo games on the switch for like $7.99 each. That’s what I do with my switch. I keep my neo geo in its box.
@uria2001
@uria2001 Жыл бұрын
I think alot of us where in the same boat. The systems I had before I was able to buy my own were Atari, Nes, SNES, Genesis, SNES, Turbo Graphix 16, and N64. this was up to my 17 birthday. Also, these systems were shared with my two brothers and not always bought by my Mom. Ps1 was the first system I bought myself
@HaohmaruHL
@HaohmaruHL Жыл бұрын
We never had neo-geo arcades in my poor post soviet country. Instead we had these past-century analogue arcades like shooting things with a gun or pushing a button to launch a torpedo into a submarine. But I was lucky to go on a summer vacation to another country as a kid. They had many cool arcades, including Metal Slug X, Kof98, Killer Instinct 2 and Wrestlemania. I was so addicted to it I spent almost whole summer playing it, lol. Played MSX so much that I was able to beat the whole game without a single death. Such good memories. When we finally got eBay available to us I ended up importing a supergun jamma machine and all these games on the actual hardware, plus some other jamma pcb boards, mvs neogeo board and cartridges and cps boards (wish cps2 boards didn't have the memory dying issue tho). Wish I had space for an actual arcade cabinet. Now that I'm in Japan space is a real issue but I do have the luxury to go visit an actual arcade center, though it really pains me to see that they slowly die out and get replaced with stupid ufo crane machines, since they bring much more profit. I'm a big fan of traditional 2d pixelart animation and the games themselves are such a blast to play to, so these systems hold very dear to me. P. S. my nickname is from a character from Samurai Shodown series + Half-Life. Yeah, it's stupid and I didn't have imagination back in the day but I loved these games.
@lukew9396
@lukew9396 Жыл бұрын
Every time I see mark of the wolves in motion I’m blown away by how good it looks. Every time, without fail
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын
IKR? KOF XII and XIII's graphics should've been used to make a Garou II & III instead.
@ghost.8836
@ghost.8836 Жыл бұрын
@@KenMasters. At least Garou 2 is coming.
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын
@@ghost.8836 It's about time Garou got its 25th anniversary sequel.
@Kaiesis
@Kaiesis Жыл бұрын
The community is still thriving for MotW. We play on Fightcade now. There are weekly tournaments on Sunday.
@ghost.8836
@ghost.8836 Жыл бұрын
@@Kaiesis Well, I know what to do when I get my PC fixed. I'm going to suck but hey, it'll be fun!
@takingcoins5446
@takingcoins5446 Жыл бұрын
Love the Neo Geo AES/MVS! Have a little over 80 English games so far. Great video
@leogolive
@leogolive Жыл бұрын
In the 90s when I was in high school I used to read EGM and Gamepro magazines. I used to drool over the Neo Geo advertisements in those mags. I wanted to play KOF ‘94, Samurai Showdown, AOF and all those games so bad! Whenever there was a SNK game review or player’s guide I’d study them like I was gonna actually get to play them lol! I’m so glad years later I’m finally able to play them all! I love SNK!
@Anon-cv7ru
@Anon-cv7ru 6 ай бұрын
This is the only console that brings the true Arcade experience right to your TV.
@Umtree
@Umtree Жыл бұрын
I lived in Japan for a few years back in early 2000’s and stocked up on tons on AES systems and games. I got addicted to collecting for this system.
@SmaMan
@SmaMan Жыл бұрын
6:00 - Also important to note that the Neo Geo carts themselves are the same internally across all regions. It just loads whatever regional version (or even Arcade/Home version if you're using an adapter or UniBIOS) depending on what the console is set to on startup.
@omgitsmario7
@omgitsmario7 Жыл бұрын
Can you use a japanese neogeo in usa are they region free😊
@hardcorevideogames
@hardcorevideogames Жыл бұрын
@@omgitsmario7 yes, it just goes off what the systems bios tells it to do. You can easily modify it to mae the system do whatever you want it to.
@ATomRileyA
@ATomRileyA Жыл бұрын
I always remember them being almost mythical machines as no one had one because of the cost. I always feel that time was so exciting because so many cool things were happening compared to today where i don't get very excited about new games and consoles because there is not much new and interesting stuff mostly just 1000 versions of call of duty not to say there is not good stuff out there but just not quite the same and not as many breakthrough things. Although the VR stuff now had brought back that sense of wonderment for me :).
@nojuanatall3281
@nojuanatall3281 Жыл бұрын
Rez HD made me a VR believer. But it's still not all that way there. Hopefully PSVR2 is a step forward.
@jc7997aj
@jc7997aj Жыл бұрын
Yes I remember many times lusting over it looking in the back of Game mags that had ads to import syatems and games.
@leeartlee915
@leeartlee915 Жыл бұрын
As far as I’m aware, the Neo Geo is the only system that no one person has a full library of. I’ve heard of people having every other complete library from the NES, to the Saturn, and even the PS2 (which is NUTS considering the size of that library). But yeah, never heard of anyone having the full set. And this system is the poster child for why emulation is almost required to play some systems.
@VTorner
@VTorner Жыл бұрын
PSVR is shit lol Wake me up when Nerve Gear
@Nianna_W
@Nianna_W Жыл бұрын
Yikes boomer
@COLOFIDUTI
@COLOFIDUTI Жыл бұрын
1994 a friend of mine got one AES.The first game ive saw was samurai shodown, and man! to say that i was mindblown was a understating! The scalling in that game was incredible and the size of the chars... for the time we were still impressed by sf2 and mk1 on snes 🤣
@Alexandratheberge
@Alexandratheberge Жыл бұрын
i got one in 1991 i was obsesed
@chestercastillo2703
@chestercastillo2703 Жыл бұрын
We used the Motorola 68000 processor for our thesis in college. I didn't know it was the heart of the Neo Geo. Very cool! Love these kind of videos MVG! Thank you!
@Seboss38
@Seboss38 Жыл бұрын
The 68k was at the heart of most 16-bit machines of the time: Amiga, Atari ST, Genesis / Mega Drive, Macintosh, Sharp X68000 ...
@chestercastillo2703
@chestercastillo2703 Жыл бұрын
@@Seboss38 🤯 Good to know! Love learning the history of these things.
@BaneKing57
@BaneKing57 Жыл бұрын
Love your content! You make Monday mornings awesome!
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! Really enjoyed this one =D The Neo Geo is such an awesome piece of arcade and home gaming history!
@dsnein
@dsnein Жыл бұрын
Love your videos on marathon fixing them! I picked up a box of 20 cheap at auction and have gotten a few working thanks to you.
@chemergency
@chemergency Жыл бұрын
The Neo Geo was an overpowered superbeast of a console for back then. Very few people can afford it, but the few that can are never let-down.
@BrianJones-il8nq
@BrianJones-il8nq Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who had bought a MVS arcade cabinet and about 15 games back in the late 90’s. His wife eventually decided it was taking up too much room and he sold it me for $1200. I’ve been collecting games for it ever since and have a current library of 90 games. Nothing beats the arcade feel!
@jonniefast
@jonniefast Жыл бұрын
i had to build my own from scratch i use mvs-1b motherboards and a variety of upscalers and signal converters i can use vga, hdmi, s-video, or RF 😎🕹️
@jonniefast
@jonniefast Жыл бұрын
learning & building was good fun but blazing star, metal slug 3, puzzle bobble, spin master, kof99, pochi and nyaa, & shock troopers are some of the best games of all time 😭
@AccelSternritter
@AccelSternritter Жыл бұрын
That console that truly a monster! Love your content MVG, keep it up!
@CubicIronPyrite
@CubicIronPyrite Жыл бұрын
Seeing Magician Lord for the first time in the arcade was a "wow" moment for me.
@LK.Cynric
@LK.Cynric Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Very informative and entertaining. Don't know how you manage to always include so much technical information without it being too much or boring.
@l-Jeremy
@l-Jeremy Жыл бұрын
Excellent video MVG! Thank you for all your insights and time
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo
@Bo_Knows_Tecmo Жыл бұрын
The animations on AOF 3 look great to this day. Another cool effect is on kof96 there is a stage intro where you have a blimp flying and all of a sudden everything zooms to a rooftop building to the start of the match. Really cool
@TheWorldDBZ
@TheWorldDBZ Жыл бұрын
As a kid lived in Japan during the ’90s, I remember the MVS games as “games for punks.” Large video game arcades would often have games running on the CPS2 and such, but smaller and dirtier ones preferred the MVS because of its much lower costs, and such places tended to be filled with rough teenagers who would often extort money from nerds. There was a small convenience store run by an old woman near my high school and it had some MVS cabinets in a small separated space in the edge, where punks skipping classes were often playing KoF and Metal Slug, puffing at their cigarette.
@Newbobdole
@Newbobdole Жыл бұрын
That kinda explains how the “KOF aesthetic” with young peoples’ clothing got popular throughout Asia, they were cool/dangerous
@stevesharpe3370
@stevesharpe3370 Жыл бұрын
Wow really interesting! Thanks for that!
@CarbonRollerCaco
@CarbonRollerCaco Жыл бұрын
Love how you just up and use what's considered a slang term in its native language and is often used disdainfully-"punk"-so casually like it were a normal descriptor. That's something Japanese does a lot with loan words.
@stevesharpe3370
@stevesharpe3370 Жыл бұрын
@@CarbonRollerCaco we do that in here where I’m from in United States too!
@DFX4509B
@DFX4509B Жыл бұрын
That's ironic given the home version was an exclusive, premium product with the insane price tags to match.
@luciusthegreat5569
@luciusthegreat5569 Жыл бұрын
Great video ! I always appreciate your views on games . Always good to see one of your videos !
@boydpukalo8980
@boydpukalo8980 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy how you go into details describing how these systems work. Fascinating video. I look forward to the next video.
@boydpukalo8980
@boydpukalo8980 Жыл бұрын
That is great. Let me know when you have sent me what I won.
@demonsty
@demonsty Жыл бұрын
of course i knew all this but i love the neo geo and MVG your presentation is always top tier. love the video!
@SalDOWN
@SalDOWN Жыл бұрын
Ah, the legendary Neo-Geo arcade games... nostalgia overflow! :)
@javierruizleon
@javierruizleon Жыл бұрын
I had a NeoGeo at launch, $700 and you got to choose the pack in game, I got Magician Lord. I also visited SNK in Torrance, CA, got to hang out with Chad, Carlos, and the Roller Coaster guy in the back warehouse.
@melchior2678
@melchior2678 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving SNK and their NeoGeo the respect it deserves. You just earned a subscription from me. Hope to see more content like this from u in the future! 👍👍
@Oni64
@Oni64 Жыл бұрын
The Neo Geo will forever be known as that one expensive system we could never afford lol
@ProdDeity
@ProdDeity Жыл бұрын
I picked one up a few years ago. I was lucky.
@GeomancerHT
@GeomancerHT Жыл бұрын
God save the MAME creators and contributors. Thanks for the video, love the channel!
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you think of how many obscure arcade games would be unknown/dead were it not for people dumping ROMs and MAME. The companies certainly don’t seem to give a shit about their legacy.
@parrishharris3008
@parrishharris3008 Жыл бұрын
That's the absolute truth 😍✌
@jonniefast
@jonniefast Жыл бұрын
mame = horrible
@bubbythebear6891
@bubbythebear6891 Жыл бұрын
@@jonniefast It ain't perfect, but it's necessary. How else can we play marble madness 2?
@hardcore8uk
@hardcore8uk Жыл бұрын
Another great retro KZbin video, best KZbin retro gaming channel on the net , thanks my Ozzi brother, Piece love n respect from Glasgow Scotland !!!!
@retropuffer2986
@retropuffer2986 Жыл бұрын
I like how MVG finds some neat info he somehow knows we'll love.
@jakeeheredia
@jakeeheredia Жыл бұрын
Arcade hardware is insanity and I love it. Great video
@StooCambridgeArtist
@StooCambridgeArtist Жыл бұрын
I couldn't afford one when it first came out but a few years later during my Sensible days I was very fortunate to own an MVS with a few carts. Man, the excitement of playing proper arcade games in my living room was awesome! During my career I got to work on many machines but not the Neo Geo - I would so loved to have got my teeth into it as the hardware was just so good for an ol'pixel pusher like me! Another top video mate! Big thumbs up!
@michiganjack1337
@michiganjack1337 Жыл бұрын
Finding someone who owned a Neo Geo was like finding a diamond encrusted albino unicorn rhino. No one actually had one but almost everyone knew a guy-who knew a guy-who had a uncle that owned one. We would talk about the games being as large as VHS tape and that each game was like $500 (which is weird because they’ve maintained their value more than anything over the years).
@Da_80s_Ruled
@Da_80s_Ruled Жыл бұрын
One of the best neo geo videos I have seen! Well researched 👍🏻
@TN_AU
@TN_AU Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this back in the day at my local Myer store in the city here in Australia, they had the unit in a glass cabinet but had a video playing on the TV showing off the games. When I saw the price tag, yeah nah.
@connorkiss2614
@connorkiss2614 Жыл бұрын
How much was it in Australia?
@TN_AU
@TN_AU Жыл бұрын
@@connorkiss2614 this was in 1990, I was a very young lad, I cant recall how much it was but the $800 AUD mark keepa popping into my head. $800 back in those days was alot of $ to splash on a console, and then the $ for the game carts.
@savagedregime8176
@savagedregime8176 Жыл бұрын
My favorite NG trivia is how Fatal Fury has the Y2K bug. The date for Geese's death in the ending is based on the BIOS clock, but it loops back to 1900 after the turn of the century. Check any recordings of the ending on KZbin the date will be the same as it was recorded in but 19XX instead of 20XX. Apparently this only affects western Neo Geo models, so the Japanese ones are Y2K compliant.
@harpalhayer7372
@harpalhayer7372 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video, brought back a lot of memories playing in arcades.
@jt.8144
@jt.8144 Жыл бұрын
Good days back then!!! Thank you for this!
@joesshows6793
@joesshows6793 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Grew up in this era and we did rent the neo geo for a week I think. Joysticks weren’t the best but it was pretty wild having the arcade games on the tv
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean Жыл бұрын
There are tons of good Neo Geo games that never really came out on other platforms. I picked up one of those recent MVSX home cabinets and modded it to have basically all the MVS library.
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you showing off how the platform handles sprites. I had no idea that's how the Neo-Geo did things. Cool stuff!
@fitfogey
@fitfogey Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Always loved this system and never knew how it worked to provide great games.
@RetroMoments
@RetroMoments Жыл бұрын
Yes! Awesome video. More NEO-GEO-related stuff would make me very happy!
@Charlie-Cat.
@Charlie-Cat. Жыл бұрын
Hello MVG, Pleased to meet you. What an excellent and highly informative video you uploaded for us to enjoy. I love the Neo-Geo. I've been playing it at first for the MVS for 32 years. The first time I ever played one of the units was at a local Dairy Queen in Paramus, NJ. I actually was amazed by technology at first because of how many game cartridges can be inputted into a unit. The game that I first played was Magician Lord. I recall inserting so my quarters in the unit that I must've spend over $5 Dollars worth just for one game. After that day, I became a buff of the Neo-Geo since. 8^) Also MVG, I posted this outstanding upload for you on, the Neo-Geo-Thread for you on the forums for others to take notice on AtariAge. I'm sure they will really enjoy your content regarding it kind sir. Thank you for sharing this with us MVG. Glad to make your acquaintance, and keep up the good work you offer to the community. 8^) Anthony..
@KnowPhere
@KnowPhere Жыл бұрын
I love snk & neogeo. Loved playing those cabinets as a kid. Perfectly captures the flare and style of the 90s
@TimWinningham
@TimWinningham Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video and history of the Neo Geo.
@MagisterHamid
@MagisterHamid Жыл бұрын
First saw one running Fatal Fury back in 1991. I was blown away by the graphics. What’s most impressive with the system is how long it lasted. Released in 1990 and the last official game was released in 2004!
@manoftherainshorts9075
@manoftherainshorts9075 Жыл бұрын
Neo Geo games still amaze me, their look is timeless. I suppose newer generation of gamers will see those games 15 years later and still find them aesthetically pleasing.
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 Жыл бұрын
In many ways I like this more than the cps2 and 3
@wugenius
@wugenius Жыл бұрын
The fact that this came out in 1990 and arcade perfect ports weren’t possible until the Saturn with Ram cart says a lot.
@Sinasi08
@Sinasi08 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you for the video ✌️✌️
@war3zlod3r
@war3zlod3r Жыл бұрын
The serial numbers were also used to keep track of which arcade the carts were sold too, many in the wild had the serials scratched off because if SNK found out you sold your carts second hand you'd be fined on your next order from them.
@thomashrlewis
@thomashrlewis Жыл бұрын
You make it sound like this was in the past. I was just fined last week. They've got their spies everywhere.
@luishandal
@luishandal Жыл бұрын
lies
@lukemorgan6166
@lukemorgan6166 Жыл бұрын
Sounds a little far fetched
@war3zlod3r
@war3zlod3r Жыл бұрын
Lol sure I just made it up and that’s why so many serials on sold carts are removed. It’s absolutely true because it was undercutting SNK’s bottom line but you guys are welcome to believe whatever you like 🤣
@whatwasisaying1338
@whatwasisaying1338 Жыл бұрын
A quick Google search reveals corroborating info to OP's statement on a Neo Geo forum way back in 2005.
@KarlRock
@KarlRock Жыл бұрын
I’d never heard of this console until I watched this video. But it does look premium from your video. I imagine $600 USD would’ve have been even more expensive back in those days too.
@ChaossX77
@ChaossX77 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's called inflation ffs. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@humansrants1694
@humansrants1694 Жыл бұрын
At the time in the Uk the Nintendo SNES was £190 and the Sega Megadrive was £179 on release, the Neo Geo I got in 1993 was £460 with no game and one controller. Games for for SNES and Megadrive were £35 each apart from the 3D ones that cost around £40, the Neo Geo games in the Uk were £185 new and £77 - £84 for games that were two years old.
@NinjaMuffinLive1
@NinjaMuffinLive1 Жыл бұрын
In the early 2000's MAME, Metal Slug, Snow Bros and Windjammers was pretty much my childhood (along with SNES). Great vid!
@BernardWilkinson
@BernardWilkinson Жыл бұрын
This is a REALLY good video that explains the workings of the NeoGeo.
@WrestlingWithGaming
@WrestlingWithGaming Жыл бұрын
AES with a multicart, even the expensive $600 ones, is such a money saver in the long run. The HD retrovision cables paired with the Neo Geo adapter is how I play mine and the picture is gorgeous. Killer video as always. I do agree with you that due to the expense and great emulation available, it's hard to recommend buying the actual hardware outside of finding a decent deal. I'm sure it's in my head, but I swear some games feel different on the real hardware. But that's probably just my subconscious trying to justify the money I spent on it 😅
@Ali-Britco
@Ali-Britco Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct about there being a difference. I used to play tournaments (mainly the King of fighters series) in our arcades. For a while things were fine, then emulation happened and arcade owners were flocking to the new arcade machines which were mame cabinets. Once we started playing on these everything changed, there were suddenly combos we could pull off that we never could on actual hardware and stuff we no longer could do because of the changed timing. It led to tournaments getting split into two camps, the emulator ones and the originals (based off actual neo Geo hardware). Pretty soon that split led to the demise of our little tournament circuit and by then the world had moved on (Street Fighter, tekken etc.)
@WrestlingWithGaming
@WrestlingWithGaming Жыл бұрын
@@Ali-Britco I will say that it's something I only notice on some games. Most of them are, to me, indistinguishable from emulation. But to be fair, it's something that I'm not usually sensitive to in other emulated platforms but I'm sure there are people out there that can feel these slight differences more deeply than I. I also think some of it comes from the feel of using the Neo Geo sticks too.
@Ali-Britco
@Ali-Britco Жыл бұрын
@@WrestlingWithGaming yep, I think the difference is more noticeable in games that rely on 'twitch' reflexes like fighting games. For example, in my younger years I'd memorised and beaten the nes Battletoads, on real hardware I still can, but on emulator ( around 2013 anyway) I couldn't get the timing right for the unicycle level and knew something was off.
@Alexandratheberge
@Alexandratheberge Жыл бұрын
I got mine in 1991 i was so obsessed
@482aaa
@482aaa Жыл бұрын
A great way to start the morning. Love your videos
@jholotanbest2688
@jholotanbest2688 Жыл бұрын
This was well before my time but I am still getting excided about this. Super cool tech and I am glad I learned about it.
@moesaber4325
@moesaber4325 Жыл бұрын
I'll never forget spending all my money on playing Samurai Showdown and Metal Slug in the arcades.
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын
I've done the same for KOF '96 - 2003 and Sonic Wings 2 at a laundromat.
@loganford3921
@loganford3921 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted a Neo Geo but still haven't got one but I do own 11 sealed AES games that I bought in 2009. They were going for between £20-40 and I couldn't pass them up. They had Man 1975 sealed but I didn't buy it as the woman on the front cover had a white dress covered with a black marker pens. Also had Andros Dunos sealed for £80 and now sealed there going for over 2 grand so I'm regretting that lol.
@jinvid
@jinvid 2 ай бұрын
People don't realize that this was a FULL FLEDGED Arcade system IN YOUR HOUSE!
@davidt3563
@davidt3563 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty amazing that Neo Geo games look AMAZING to this day. For those of us alive back in the early 90s, the mere THOUGHT of having arcade perfect games at the home was an absolute pipe dream. The devs and artists of these games were Gods among their craft.
@golfboy83
@golfboy83 Жыл бұрын
I got a NeoGeoX system with 2 controllers and all available game cards that they made for it back in 2012 or 2013. It feels like playing original hardware with the big amazing arcade sticks. Probably a better option than the mini counsel they put out, plus the Neo Geo X is also a portable handheld system. I absolutely love it, and feel that the build quality is top notch.
@godslayer1415
@godslayer1415 Жыл бұрын
garbage system.
@golfboy83
@golfboy83 Жыл бұрын
@@godslayer1415 have you played one, or are you just regurgitating what all the haters say online? For $250 for everything, it's pretty great....better than one Neo Geo cartridge for the same price.
@Waccoon
@Waccoon Жыл бұрын
When I first heard that the system uses sprites for backgrounds instead of tilemaps, that blew my mind. Talk about a brute-force approach! They might have done that specifically because it makes it easier to scale backgrounds. I should check out an emulator sometime to see how the DMA timing and fetch modes actually work.
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 Жыл бұрын
This explains the crispness you see in theae games
@trueakuma777
@trueakuma777 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the Neo Geo came out, all my friends and I were excited about it. Then we heard how much they cost and that excitement quickly fizzled out! I didn't know anyone who had one, and they were WAY outside my price range, so the only way I could experience Neo Geo games was in the arcades or in the somewhat uncommon instances where they were ported to other consoles like the SNES or the Sega Genesis. But they were fun games and if money had not been a factor I likely would have bought a Neo Geo at some point. Thanks for the informative video and stay safe out there!
@brianhoward7277
@brianhoward7277 Жыл бұрын
I was just playing baseball stars earlier this morning. I LOVE the neo geo graphics and game art
@AllySandrana
@AllySandrana Жыл бұрын
Never owned the system, but I love the game. Metal Slug is one of My favorite game all time.
@adrian_veidt
@adrian_veidt Жыл бұрын
I always thought the Neo geo is the pinnacle of what you can do with 2d sprites. It's like taking an arcade machine to your home on a literal sense.
@leeartlee915
@leeartlee915 Жыл бұрын
In a lot of ways, it kinda is the apex of 2d sprits. What we see today is kinda cheating on what people would call sprites.
@DecibelAlex
@DecibelAlex Жыл бұрын
ironic because nowadays it probably makes more sense economically to buy the arcade board instead of an AES
@ArtemyMalchuk
@ArtemyMalchuk Жыл бұрын
I think Gen 5 consoles like Saturn and Playstation, and later GBA and DS, were the perfect successors to Neo Geo's 2D.
@linuxstreamer8910
@linuxstreamer8910 Жыл бұрын
it is the best sprite based system for it's time that goes for mvs & aes but still it is the best
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 Жыл бұрын
@@ArtemyMalchuk Saturn yes, PS1 no.
@RemnantCult
@RemnantCult Жыл бұрын
Your Monday uploads make my mornings way, way better.
@cyrollan
@cyrollan Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best KZbin videos I've ever watched.
@hadesmcc
@hadesmcc Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, I found Neo Geo through emulation as a kid, when a mate showed me he was playing Metal Slug. Many moons later, I came to own an AES and I'm glad of it. On a different note, you neglected to mention one could also acquire a Darksoft or Terraonion cart and load up the full library on an SD card.
@zeikjt
@zeikjt Жыл бұрын
13:09 I guess not by name, but the tech was mentioned
@DocMagneto
@DocMagneto Жыл бұрын
He mentioned multicarts at 13:20
@hadesmcc
@hadesmcc Жыл бұрын
@@zeikjt Not the same thing, he mentioned those 161-in-1 carts with a fixed library of games.
@hadesmcc
@hadesmcc Жыл бұрын
@@DocMagneto Multicarts and flashcarts are not the same thing. Multicarts have a fixed library of games, like the popular 161-in-1 cart which is what he was alluding to. I was specifically talking about something that allows you to play whatever ROMs you want to.
@zeikjt
@zeikjt Жыл бұрын
@@hadesmcc Ah fair enough, I figured he was just talking about carts with sdcards preloaded with games, not fixed hardware data but I guess not!
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын
It's OK. I didn't own one either.
@mtunayucer
@mtunayucer Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@IncendiarySolution
@IncendiarySolution Жыл бұрын
Nobody owned a neo geo
@rockfresh5359
@rockfresh5359 Жыл бұрын
Only drug dealers and surgeon kids had one
@Nordlicht05
@Nordlicht05 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know what it was. Everything I knew was there are Sega Nintendo and someday Sony. That was it 😅
@mcrsit
@mcrsit Жыл бұрын
"It's OK. I'm gonna shoot you in the head." -Jericho
@gordiev8692
@gordiev8692 Жыл бұрын
Neo Geo was the first to bring the arcade experience home. Almost a decade before anyone else.
@darinherrick9224
@darinherrick9224 Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of video I wish I could give like ten thumbs up. Just so professional and so excellent.
@kirby0louise
@kirby0louise Жыл бұрын
The M68K had a 32-bit internal bus but a 16-bit external bus, so I guess you can think of it as a 24-bit CPU if you want to
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat Жыл бұрын
As for what "bits" is a console is, It all comes down the to "What is the instructional bit width the CPU can handle?"
@vadnegru
@vadnegru Жыл бұрын
@@SomeOrangeCat Yes, +1 this. Many 8-bit cpu has 16-bit addressable space. Overall "bits" is used loosely, generally advertising bigger number.
@ATomRileyA
@ATomRileyA Жыл бұрын
I remember trying to explain this to a kid at school who seriously told me it would explode if you had anymore than 16bits in a console no idea why he thought this was true but something that i look back on and makes me laugh.
@fatalfallacy
@fatalfallacy Жыл бұрын
„Do the math!“ Ah wait, this were the other guys that also got pretty „creative“ counting bits on the bus… haha… Afaik the 24bit refer to the GPU‘s 24bit wide data bus here.
@kirby0louise
@kirby0louise Жыл бұрын
@@SomeOrangeCat No? For example, x86 instructions can vary in length, from 8 to 240 bits. The number of "bits" a processor has almost always refers to the max width of the standard data type (so SIMD is excluded)
@markdenniss8480
@markdenniss8480 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Another option which I believe is better than the Neo Geo Mini is to check out the Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro (you can download the entire back catalogue and is licensed by SNK) which came out a year after the mini console and has a far superior resolution when you can connect to the TV.
@polioepidemic8746
@polioepidemic8746 Жыл бұрын
Pandora 9 H Better All Snk Games Plus Various Systems 3369 Games In Total Only 109 Dollars
@Joliie
@Joliie Жыл бұрын
Always a good monday when that popup tells you there is a new MVG video out. Always a good take on the topic chosen.
@mayamanign
@mayamanign Жыл бұрын
I still remember walking into Software Etc. And walking out with my NeoGeo Gold system. The golden age.
@RetroPiero
@RetroPiero Жыл бұрын
It truly was. A console that everyone wanted but couldn't afford. The original PS5.
@BillB808
@BillB808 Жыл бұрын
PS5 is a cheap console that is slightly less powerful than its XBX competitor. Neo Geo was a very expensive console (and games), which was 2x as powerful as its competitors. Totally different ball game.
@Suhadisgood
@Suhadisgood Жыл бұрын
I didn’t see it better then the arcade or like the arcade so I don’t agree it was ahead of it’s time I got every console every console failed to deliver the arcade experience to home
@OpoumConsumer
@OpoumConsumer 2 ай бұрын
If you compare size of arcade and a home console then there is no way that it could be perfectly recreated, buy fact that the console kept up for over a decade shows how ahead of time it was
@evolancer211
@evolancer211 Ай бұрын
You are comparing an experience of the arcade atmosphere to the atmosphere of a home, of course it's not going to deliver. The arcade tech is what he's comparing to the home tech. In technology terms it delivers
@mikekanner2156
@mikekanner2156 Ай бұрын
2 losers who don’t know that arcade machines are PC all its life to why they played better then consoles and still today PC beats PS5 Xbox series X the 2 best consoles on this planet today
@mikekanner2156
@mikekanner2156 Ай бұрын
@@evolancer211grow up kid what Suhad is saying is true you probably never went to the arcades in the 1990’s you stuck home playing the consoles the arcade was ruling the world of video games cause they were PC the consoles weren’t
@mikekanner2156
@mikekanner2156 Ай бұрын
@@OpoumConsumerI need to compare size look at the size of arcade 1 up verses the PC they both play the same kid it’s not how large it is that makes the games play great PC can be very small it still plays all the SNK games great on mame 32 something free to download since the 1980 what were you doing playing on the weakest Neogeo console
@Riz2336
@Riz2336 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting good vid. I've been playing Neo Geo games since I was a kid like you
@LITTLE1994
@LITTLE1994 Жыл бұрын
Man, it's so hard getting these, then and now, all because it's LITERALLY an arcade at home. The dang extreme price it had. It puts the legendary SNES into shame.
@luckyrockmore2796
@luckyrockmore2796 Жыл бұрын
Top tier quality arcade games at home well before the beloved Dreamcast did it! Respect! 👍👍
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